>>34526227
I live in a major city and it’s hard for me too, I met my ex at a social event in the city and we started talking. I’m 35 though so my time is almost over

>>34526227
Bars, clubs, friends of friends, same way as in your twenties

>>34526238
>I’m 35 though so my time is almost over
Wat

>>34526245
>Bars, clubs, friends of friends, same way as in your twenties
I don't drink alcohol, also my friends don't know any women either.

I'd say start talking to women, not to flirt but just as friends. and maybe theyll introduce you to someone and you can see what women your age do and where they hang out. i belive there was a statistic about how older generations meet their significant other and it was mostly by being introduced by a friend

>>34526245
When you get to mid 30s your choice of women drops severely, and you deal with single moms, women who can’t have kids, or women who have dated 40 men by that point

>>34526319
This is if you never approach any women

>>34526277
>I'd say start talking to women, not to flirt but just as friends
I can't even figure out where to meet women.

>>34526319
>and you deal with single moms, women who can’t have kids, or women who have dated 40 men by that point

I'm literally 35, and again: WAT
Are you livin gin some hick town where everyone marries at 30 already or sth?

>>34526227
>How do you meet women in your 30s?

dating apps

>>34526344
No I live in Chicago

>>34526344
anon is partly right, I'm 35 and the last girl i met is a bitter single mom that just wanted to bang, it's kinda hopeless out there

>>34526385
>Chicago
you need to go out more. stop relying on the jew apps. hunt like your life depends on it

>>34526227
For me it's dating apps. I can't do organic meetings irl. I don't have the courage to say anything in a romantic context out of nowhere. Likewise, even if I do, I don't have the experience to know where to take it next.
It is because of these two reasons, and also because I'm turning 30 in a couple of days (I can't fucking believe it) that I'm maxing on dating apps.
I'm desperate enough that I'll take what I can get. So far, can't get too much. Got one asexual autistic girl, she's a great person and great friend, but we're no longer involved romantically (she tried with me, I was her first everything, and then she decided she doesn't feel any attraction to anyone), then I met a bipolar German girl who was about to visit me this weekend, but I self sabotaged and pushed her away by being weird.

What can I say dude, the selection isn't large.
In several days when I get my salary, I'm going to subscribe to hinge, bumble and tinder. Highest tier on all 3, and see if that gets me a bit more matches. Currently I only get 1 meaningful match a week, across 6-7 different apps. Then 4-8 bot matches, but those don't count. Like truly they don't count. So, the reality is I get matches, I'm just not getting them too frequently. Let's see the effect that paying will have on that.
I recommend for scared people like us to use whatever means possible, and dating apps is one of those means, it is a pretty passive income low stake thing. The only thing at stake is your own confidence, as the apps are designed to make you feel worthless or exacerbate already existing feelings of worthlessness. Anyway I hate typing on this PIECE OF SHIT PHONE so I'm done

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>>34526227
>How do you meet women in your 30s?
you have to think like the attractive women. Be at the places they think they will meet men they want to be with. You can't go to places of your interests and expect to find women there.
>I’ve been going to board game nights
kek and you expected to meet women there?
>I’ve also tried dating apps
dating apps are broken in this year. They only worked when they first got popular in 2014. You are more than ten years too late for this. They dont work today.
>What other options do I have?
I am in my thirties. The way it worked for me was networking. I met single women through my friends network and asking who knew someone who was single and wanted a date. I have also always had success meeting women in person- meeting them in public. You have to go out of your way to be in public places where women are expecting to meet men. It also depends on the type of woman. College aged? Professionals that are in their late twenties? Early thirties women? It has much strategy that lazy guys cannot understand. Video related, dont be a pussy. Go out with friends, and go to other countries:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJKBmvQyjkc

>>34526245
Young women do not want milkmired 35 year olds. That's what he means

>>34526600
>in public
>just ask a friend
you didn't say shit really

>>34526227
Learn to cold approach

>>34526746
>you didn't say shit really
you incels really need your hand held or what? Did you not see the video? You have to go outside in public to meet women, sometimes to other countries. You can also meet single women by networking and making friends. You spergs think you'll meet some baddie in a Pokemon card convention to touch your peepee or some shit. Delusional

>>34526227
What was your volunteer organization? Maybe try another one. I highly doubt you went at all or more than once. You find a volunteer org you like that they do and have young people and you do it because you actually like it. Same with hobbies, go to swing dancing or salsa for young people because you actually like it not to pick up chicks. Same thing with boom clubs or churches or crafting circles or cooking classes or art classes. You find the ones that have a good mix of young people and then you do them because you like it and you wan to do it a lot more. Then when you are there enjoying yourself at the thing you like you meet and talk with single women. You are not there to meet single women. You will always loose that way. It will always be obvious how desperate you are. Also you have to have taking game. That takes tons of practice. Years. Talk a ton to old people and men and everyone. Get natural at talking. Get natural at making friends and suggesting you go to movies as friends or whatever. That way you are natural at it when you are talking to a single woman. Also know when she just isn’t into you and move on. Being a man means being comfortable with failure a hundred thousand times. Chads are failing that often (except a super select few sorry you didn’t literally win the genetic lottery, you can now feel sorry for yourself for the next minute and then you have to suck it up, most chads are still not peak .01% or men.

>>34526880
are you reading what you type?
"go outside in public" is the most vague shit you can say about any issue posted here, holy fucking dumbass
>>34527172
this anon gave actual actionable advice

Dude to meet women, you have to accept them being human and yourself being human. I've seen so many dates where the guy and girl just stare each other down and that was it. It literally has nothing to do with impressing her. The hardest thing you have to recoginze is challenging the world to be attractive. You have to challenge the world. The world will not bend over for you. It will leave you in the alley walk past you and call the cops on you for trespassing. It is not kind. It is your duty as a human being to challenge it. You can't just expect things to fall on your lap.

>>34526245
You met your gf at a club/bar?

>>34526751
What if cold approaches get you arrested?

>>34526564
Disagree with the subscriptions
Use the mid tier to see who liked you and choose from there, do not seipe left on any of them though, and do not usw the main feed
Also tinder might stop giving you likes after a while, forcing you to buy boosts, so you might want to avoid that

>>34527260
What if warm approaches get you arrested. You know what? What if my heart randomly stop working this moment and I die. You gonna keep doing what ifs or are you gonna accept you are human?

>>34526238
>>34526245
>>34526319
>>34526728
>35
>ALMOST over
What the fuck are you retards talking about? Your time has been over for at leat half a decade. You're going to get married , settle down and have lots of kids with a woman in her 40s are you? You're gonna keep dating in your 40s? Why are online dating discussions always completely dellusional about age? People in their late 30s and 40s talking about dating as if they've still got a chance at a normal life. Crazy.

>>34526227
Aren't you a millenial?
I thought you guys had women figured back in the 2010s, what happened?

>>34526227
Running groups would be one idea.
My girlfriend is currently getting into a mixed-gender running group and is impressed how "nice" the guys are treating her. She just doesn't realize they're only there to hit on girls because of not making a cut on dating apps.
Install Strava and find local running groups or events in your area, boom, you have access to naive women while flying under the radar.
Have a drink together after to "celebrate" a good run and you're set.
Woman are so fucking dumb...

https://www.vice.com/en/article/running-clubs-are-the-new-dating-apps/

>>34527491
They were more into partying and doing drugs back then

>>34527172
>you find a volunteer org you like that they do and have young people and you do it because you actually like it
That’s what I’m aiming for. What are some good hobbies to try? I enjoy cooking classes, hiking, and board games, but these groups don’t usually have women around my age.

>>34526268
>friends don't know any women either

That is unlikely. Have you asked? Even if not outright asking do you talk to your friends about getting girls?

>>34527491
Everything was fine then it was like musical chairs where everyone who was standing up single when the pandemic hit music stops, got fucked and don't know what to do anymore because it's grim and +7 years older.

>>34527624
NTA but you have to realize anon that women do not have hobbies. Their brains aren't satisfied by hobbies in the same way mens are. The only hobbies women have are ones where they get to take photos of themselves.

>>34526399
Yeah I don't use dating apps. I don't have contact to that type of people in general. Bitter single moms don't tend to be out enjoying life a lot, and those are the places to meet women.

>>34526564
>I can't do organic meetings irl. I don't have the courage to say anything in a romantic context out of nowhere. Likewise, even if I do, I don't have the experience to know where to take it next.

First off, take a second to make yourself aware that dating apps aren't going to fix any of that. Ultimately, you will still sit next to a real girl and you will still have ot make a move and you will still risk failing. Thats ok, thats part of how you learn this in the first place. You can't git gud with women without failing.
Using dating apps is a cope that only makes it much harder on you, because now you are in a hypercompetitive environment where theres ten men to every woman. Because tdating apps main target group is guys like you, and their main product is selling the illusion that you can somehow find love without risking rejection. You can't.
>I'm desperate enough that I'll take what I can get.
Women can tell, and its amazingly unattractive.
>a bipolar German girl
>but I self sabotaged and pushed her away by being weird.
Among men, we call this "Dodging a bullet". Be thankful taht some part of yourself recognized the danger and "sabotaged" this. Crazy chick and inexperienced guy is a combination that leads straight to hell (for you).
You're psyching yourself out, and its making everything much much worse.
>I recommend for scared people like us to use whatever means possible
The "means possible" are facing your fears instead of doing a gay little avoidance dance. Which means IRL, and if you stutter and shart yourself then so be it. Its the only way it gets better. Dating apps as a cope will only seduce you into sitting on your ass and not doing much taht is effective more, while bringing you into contact with the worst specimens that womankind has.

>>34527477
>You're going to get married , settle down and have lots of kids with a woman in her 40s are you?
Where the fuck do you get off presuming that s the goal for everyone?
>as if they've still got a chance at a normal life
Who gives a rats ass about a "normal life"? Clowns like you approach life as if it was some kind of checklist. Absolutely everyone I know who has done that is notw utterly miserable. Retards who marry some random chick at 29 because "you have to bbe married at 30" and now get nagged into the ground every day.
Its an utterly alien and mind boggling mindset. As if life was entering a military unit, and you either rise through the ranks at the proscribed service age or wash out. Its a ludicrous way of looking at life, and the pathway to guaranteed misery and disappointment. You are the type of person who ends up whining about how "they did everything right".
Life isn't a school assignment. I know I know, kissing the teachers ass worked beautiful in school, but now you are in the real world. Deal with it.

>>34527888
How do you think people should procreate?

>>34526227
Get on Hinge. Pick an album or playlist, and settle in. It's going to be a long night.

>>34527880
NTA but how do I shorten the length of time that I feel like shit after a bad date or rejection? I understand it’s a part of life but it usually takes me a few days for me to obsessively stop thinking about it and trying to figure out what went wrong

>>34526564
Paying for apps won't help you if you get so little matches believe me bro. What will help is to pay for gpt pro to gimp your photos - make your jaw wider whatever. Don't exagerrate it should still look homely. You can add some pics from travel, with other women, but your main pic can be just from front, plain background, smile and satisfied - just make sure to run it through LLM and fix face, hairline etc

>>34527954
Have a couple others lined up. Obviously it's good to process what went wrong, like on the drive home, walk through the whole history of mistakes and win, and grow from them. Then keep going

>>34527954
Meet only with mid girls you don't care about

>>34527976
>have others lined up
Yeah that’s the issue. I get a date once every 3 months at best. I try every week but it’s filled with dead chats, women who only like me when they’re drunk and ghost dates

>>34527895
By having sex. As should you. Actually getting laid will also disspiate your fears of an imaginary Unc swooping your beloved away as you ar eleft criny into your bedsheets.
Imagine wasting your youth mate guarding on the internet lmao. Couldn't be me.

>>34527954
>I understand it’s a part of life but it usually takes me a few days for me to obsessively stop thinking about it
Thats pretty normal, you get desensitized to it. Otherwiase, as the other Anon said you should aim to talk to multiple women at once at all times, or at the very least be ready to immediately hit on the next one when things don't work out.
>>34528116
>I get a date once every 3 months at best.
Yeah, that is an issue. It leads to the whole thing still being abig deal in your mind. Go out more, ask out more women.
>chats
Yeah forget online dating or use it as a supplement at best. Its a dead sausage fest where you compete with roided out social media pros with SEO optimized profiles and professsional photos. Unless it happens to be your niche, uninstall.
>>34528114
Theres no reason to care much abotu any girl that you barely know. Why would you, shes basically a random stranger until you talked for while and fucked at the very least. After that , shes a passing acquiantance.

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>>34528116
>I get a date once every 3 months at best. I try every week but it’s filled with dead chats
Sorry dude, I should've given better advice because that's the same situation I'm in too. But recently I did my first cold approach and it's made me hopeful. I look back at only relying on apps and its kinda pathetic. I think we need to "cold approach" more. Talk to women irl when we are in public.

Some ideas for conversation openers
>(compliment) hey, I like your keychains/hat/outfit
>(casually direct) hey, I noticed you around the mall today and wanted to say hi
Then ask them how their day is going or whatever. Be polite, and if you're interrupting their conversations with someone say "excuse, sorry to interrupt" and stuff

After a few attempts, your timidity level will be much closer to zero than the first attempt

>>34527545
They really are the sons of boomers aren't they?

>>34527491
The generation that enjoyed a buffet lifestyle of sex, partying, drugs, and music were caught off-guard when the music stopped huh?

A millenial will look you straight in the eye and tell you just have to "be confident bro", and "put yourself out there" despite knowing it doesn't work for them.
True story, my friend's brother said this shit to me then invited me out to the city to see him in "action". All I will say is that it was brutal.

>>34528209
This is exactly what I am talking about. They give bland advice that doesn't work for them and ultimately does not work for the other person.

>>34528212
>just have to "be confident bro", and "put yourself out there" despite knowing it doesn't work for them.

They say it because it worked for them. What does fagging around on the internet even do for you? I met a bunch of 20 year old zoomie guys on my last backpacking trip to asia and they all got laid. By talking to women, real ones not dating app Chimeras.
>it was brutal
What was "brutal"? He got beaten up, arrested, laughed at? A woman being politely not interested ain't shit and doesn't even touch you once you experienced it a few times.
Just running around and hitting up random chicks isn't ideal of course, go to places that you enjoy being at regardless of women.
For example, I go to techno clubs. I maybe talk to one or two women a night or so, if I get rejected I cope by dancing my ass off for a few hours. No biggie.

>>34528209
How do you handle pushback? If she says “umm who are you” “stop talking to me” “fuck off” etc?

>>34528340
Move on to the next one. Thats not "pushback", thats either a rejection or an annyoing bicth with princess complex. Either way, engaging after that is nothing but a pointless humiliation ritual for the man anad an annoyance for the woman.

For men you need to be rich if you want a relatively young mid 20s woman in your 30s. Otherwise you're stuck with single moms. You have to admit that if you're single in your 30s you're pretty much bottom of the barrel and no one wants you, that goes for either gender.

>>34528337
Watch your tone, millenial.

I am glad to know that you go on "backpacking trips" in asia. You were there to enjoy the "culture" I presume?

And yes, my friend's brother was laughed at then intimidated by security guards.

Admit it, you could had it easy in the 2010s, and you blew it. Now you have nothing, hence your coping by giving emotional replies on le hacker forum.

>>34528440
>And yes, my friend's brother was laughed at then intimidated by security guards.

So not women? Who cares, anyone can laugh at you retard

>Admit it, you could had it easy in the 2010s, and you blew it. Now you have nothing, hence your coping by giving emotional replies on le hacker forum.

Its funny how each generation has its faggots who get foaming at the mouth and coping because they now have to try harder or differently than the previous. Yeah idiot it was easier, but now what? You gonna fag on 4chan? Or actually apply yourself? Pretty sure the millennials guys who still get laid have adopted new tactics and methods so what's your problem screen licker

>>34528340
just be kind and chill
"have a nice day (m'lady)" and walk away

I will do more approaching and report back in the htgw thread

Women don't want to meet you. They would rather rot at home than put in the effort to make a move on anyone less than Chad. I suppose if you just want to keep it casual, then there are women willing to be fucked and be in a FWB-type arrangement. But really, there is a season for all things in life, and "meeting someone" is past-due in your thirties. The time for "meeting someone" was in college, not now.
I dunno man. I used to be Chadlite. Women used to come to me. My wife came to me. She said very frankly that she could not do better than me, and truly, truly loved me. But she got sick and died. Try being single in your 50s if you want bleak.

>>34528466
Hello old man. I might just follow your inspired wisdom and go on an asian sex trip, so i can be a chad just like you, mr.millenial!

>Yeah idiot it was easier, but now what? You gonna fag on 4chan? Or actually apply yourself?
Yeah, yeah, "pull yourself up by the bootstraps". Thanks a lot, that fixes everything.

>>34528495
holy shit that's sad
how broken are you now that she's past?
did you two have a lot of fun?
make any children?

>>34528495
That is what I am telling these millenial dudes in this thread and in the htgwg thread, but now they are mad that I am telling them sex tourism and "approaching" is a cope for missing out on real relationships when they had a chance in their 20s.

They are not too happy with me

>>34528555
>tfw I was doing sex tourism in my 20s

>>34528561
anon...

>>34528440
^>you could had it easy in the 2010s,

I still talk to women to this very day, no clue where you get the weird as fuck idea that you magically turen into an Eunuch at 30.
The difference is nonexistent, you are merely coping.
>Now you have nothing
I wouldn't call having a mid twenties gf "nothing", but hey. To each his own.
>my friend's brother was laughed at then intimidated by security guards.
then I'd look at what exactly he was doing. If it was that cringy PUA bit where you run up to one rando after the next without interruption, then yes. Same things happened in the 2010s to autists who thought that is a good idea. Basic social skills and an ability to read the room are a requirement.

>>34528606
>yellow fever
>no attraction to 95% of the white women in my city because they're slobs
>good looking women, or non faggy women are not interested in me
>make good money
why not

>>34528555
What are you even trying to do here, what do you gain from it? I don't understand.

You're either a balding crabs in a bucket faggot, or a socially crippled zoomie, molded by covid lockdowns, who is coping extremely hard.And utterly desperate to find excuses why having social skills is pointless in the first place.
Thankfully, I've met zoomies who are doing much better and in fact moving through life just fine. Outside the internet, that generation is mostly okay.

>>34528608
Hmm, escaping from the other thread are we?

>turen
lol.

>this is how you write a greentext btw

You millenial guys are a mirror of your women, you mistakenly believe you can settle down at anytime, but you are becoming milkmired.

I'm nearly 30 and still feel very bullish there is hope.

I went on a few dates with a 21yo and she told me I look very young a couple times

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>>34526227
ATP of being ok with dating an MTF, at least we'd have shared interests

>>34528387
What about men who end up divorced or broken up with in their 30s?

>>34528641
>>34528650

>>34528657
That doesn't change a thing. You're single in your 30s, whether due to being an incel, widow/er or a divorcee = low value.

>>34528641
What "other thread" are you schizoing about?
>believe you can settle down at anytime
Again this odd presumption that "settling down" would be everyones goal. And yes, people still meet partners way into their 50s, thats a real thing in the real world. Cope and seethe more, You are just rotting in your basement and creating a make believ world of your own, I will not further engage with that.
Quite literally, touch grass.

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>>34528694
how to get women general, most likely

based "I will not be disillusioned" poster

>>34528694
>What "other thread" are you schizoing about?
>>34528469

>>34527540
this is actually solid advice if you're not a fat fuck

>>34528653
did you smash?

once you turn 30 you will never have sex again. Its unfortunate truth that only zoomers under 25 know. They are pumping and dumping all of the women and there is nothing to be done about it. Oh wait...actually thats millennial men fucking all the zoomette bitches zoomers are too scared to talk to.

>>34529201
>actually thats millennial men fucking all the zoomette bitches zoomers are too scared to talk to.

Bullshit. My balls started drooping to knee height at 30, and when I hit 35 they separated fully and I had to hire a Zoomie BVLL to do the fucking for me. Everyone knows that a mans balls fall off at that age at the latest, what kind of bullshit are you trying to peddle here. Its over!

>>34529184
I kissed her but she didn't reciprocate. Just held her hand on the couch after noy saying anything. Stopped talk to her after a couple more dates

>>34526385
Actually in Chicago, or some suburb / rural town in "Chicagoland"?
People have a habit of claiming to live in some city when it turns out they're from 30 minutes outside of it. In the 'burbs, life is pretty much over before your 30's.
In actual cities, 25 year olds are babies and average age for most social stuff tends to be early 30's.

>>34526227
>How do you meet women in your 30s?
Yacht parties, duhh

>>34529384
bummer bro. atleast you got a kiss out of it

>>34529499
yeah it was hard turning her down cus I hate hurting girls feelings but oh well. 3 nice dates to remember

>>34529558
Why do you feel bad? It seems like she didn’t really like you

>>34526319
>>34527477
I’m turning 33 in September. It’s over isn’t it? My last girlfriend (who was 23) dumped me by cheating on me. Last one before that was my age but it didn’t work out after 2 years. I’m so fucking screwed.

>>34529783
When I turned 33 I met a woman socially and we started dating, she just turned 32, so there was a lot of pressure because she wanted to be a mom. We eventually broke up for other reasons but if you don’t want kids you probably have Better options.

>>34529750
I broke it off with her
she was very sad

I couldn't commit to someone with red gums and just bad oral hygiene

Happened before with a slim Korean girl too. She ate a lot of candy kek

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>>34526227
Go to nearby cities and explore the downtown areas, there is lots of attractive single women. Just look for things happening in those places. I went to a comic con in pic related but while I was waiting for my bus to go home. I noticed lots of attractive women many of them single most likely walking around, there were many couples as well.

>>34529783
>zoomettes don't respect millenials
well well well.

But you guys will be fine since you are BVLLS amiright?