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>>34528316
How do I stop being a target for disrespect or outright getting ignored by women? Not even attractive or young women, just in general. I work a security job and get attitude a lot for doing the procedures. At my other job, there are professionals that either give a polite hello or just smile and avoid me. I'm really quiet, don't talk a lot, and have a blank face most of the time, so those could be factors. I'm also looking into a better career by either going back to school or just applying to get more money and le status

>>34528378
You should initiate a conversation, you’d be surprised how willing they are to engage. They are not ignoring you, they are just being demure because they can sense through your pheromones that you are on the hunt.

>>34528396
Conversation for what? Shut up

>>34528396
Oh look, useless advice.
Tell me, millenial bro, how often does this work out for you?

>>34528402
How is “be proactive” useless advice? Are zoomers really this retarded?

>>34528409
Proactive for what?

>>34528420
For having sex.

Despite what porn makes you believe, women don’t ask random men to fuck them.

>>34528427
Fuck off dude

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How do I gain confidence to approach women? I always assume the worse is to happen if I ever do so that's why I avoid it all together. I'm 23

>>34528436
Exposure therapy

>>34528430
Deep breaths zoom zoom.

>>34528438
So I just keep talking to girls until my brain stops telling me to kill myself?

>>34528378
> I'm really quiet, don't talk a lot, and have a blank face most of the time, so those could be factors.

That’s exactly what the problem is. I know it feels desperate to always be the one to pipe up and start conversations or greetings, but you’re the one giving off “don’t talk to me” signals and are upset nobody’s talking to you. Change your presentation and people will eventually come to you

>>34528441
Seriously fuck off you worthless faggot

>>34528436
Just talk to them about anything other than sex, don’t even think about sex, eventually you will realize that talking to women poses no threat to your safety. At this point you can begin to think about bringing up sex if she seems interested.

>>34528445
You are retarded

>>34528443
You will feel less anxiety when you approach girls but I don't know if you will feel less bad
Talking to random women and going out with them has gotten me nothing. Talking to random women gets bad reactions.

>>34528443
Yes. Anxiety is just a fear response. You can become desensitized.

If it’s that bad, don’t approach women for dates right away. Approaching strangers of both sexes for non-romantic things might help ease you in

>>34528454
Why go through the hassle?

>>34528461
Because you just said you can’t talk to women without wanting to die.

If you didn’t want advice you should not have posted on the advice board

>>34528409
Lower your tone, millenial.

I have returned from the 'meet women in your 30s' thread looking to entertain myself with more millenial cope.

How often does being "proactive" work for you?

To tell you the truth, I do not want to hear advice from a millenial who is presumably in their 30s and needs to be "proactive" to have sex as this implies you blew it in the 2010s when dating was easy whether it was going out to clubs or using dating apps.

You spoiled manchildren ruined dating for yourselves and the next generation and all you guys can do to cope is give young men misleading and outdated advice that you know doesn't work, while claiming it must be someone's personal characteristics at fault knowing very well you had no problems back in the day with those same characteristics as standards were lower back then.

But yeah I guess being PROOactive will fix everything, thank you o wise millenial bro.

>>34528467
That anon isn't me, but thank you for the advice. I just want a gf at this point but if this is what it takes then I have no choice. Baby steps.

>>34528461
Why do anything nigger?

>>34528467
That's circular logic you dumb cunt

>>34528472
Becuase you want to.

>>34528454
Oh why hello there, millenial bro!

> bro just talk to women like they're one of the boys bro.
> huh, why did I get friendzoned?

You are stuck in the 2010s old man.
Go to bed, you are old and confused.

>>34528378
>quiet
>blank face
Yeah, that's basically the entire reason from my experience. When I started talking to people about random shit much more often, usually smiling most of the time, overall having an expressive face, people became much more predisposed to me. Try to talk more to people, just about whatever, you social skills are a pretty good instrument in attracting women. And this sounds retarded, but like, smile and be expressive / visibly engaged when in a convo. >>34528445 is mostly right I'd say.
>>34528456 this nigger is either lying or is ultra ugly desu. People do become much more predisposed to you when you appear more genuine, engaged and open to conversing and stuff.

>>34528469
So your advice is to just sit back and wait for hot women to serve their pussies and mouths to you on a silver platter? Good luck with that.

>>34528446
do not even worry about that delusional old millenial, anon.

They are living out their past "what if" scenarios by giving us outdated and useless advice that he wishes he used back in the 2010s. The ramblings of an old man desu

Just ignore them and they might go back to bed

>>34528489
Again for what? Nobody wants to make small talk with strangers

>>34528490
You can just pay for sex

>>34528409
>>34528469

Geez old man, I have asked you a simple question twice and you have yet to answer.

I will ask once more, if it is too difficult to answer you might need to take your blood pressure medication and go lay down for nap nap time.

How often does being proactive work out for you?

>>34528469
> To tell you the truth, I do not want to hear advice from a millenial who is presumably in their 30s and needs to be "proactive" to have sex as this implies you blew it in the 2010s when dating was easy whether it was going out to clubs or using dating apps.

If you think even Chads get laid passively you need to pay way, way more attention to how they interact with women.

Yes, everyone here there and everywhere knows being hot makes your life easier. If you want to use that as an excuse to stay in the corner then be my guest, but don’t fuck it up for everyone else in the thread who’s ready to try

>>34528503
Its interesting how you act like we don't have eyes and ears
Fuck off

>>34528491
I’m not even a millennial I’m elder gen z. In 5 years, women your age won’t be trying to fuck everything that looks at them and you’ll have to actually get some game.
>>34528496
That’s what this guy will have to do no doubt

>>34528507
>you must go through all this hassle to get ran through whores
You are gay

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>I like men who make the first move
>How about the first movie?
>I like movies ;)
>You like artsy films at all? This weekend is a film festival.
>Unmatches

What a funking cunt lmao.

>>34528469
I'm 22 and your post reeks of 35 year old incel cope.

>>34528507
>I am not a Millenial, I am a Zillenial!
same shit.

I guess I will follow your wisdom and get some game and be proactive, since that clearly worked out for you in the 2010s. You are just here here to help us all with your advice since, you are in a happy and stable relationship, right anon?

>>34528528
What in the reverse uno are you talking about you coping old man.

You really must be confused, since I have yet to receive an answer and you seem to get younger with every reply.

Bed time, now

>>34528533
>the best way to get into a relationship is to do nuffin!
NTA but you are such a fucking subhuman, it's unreal. Kys already.

>>34528547
Your advice doesn't work. That's what he is talking about, asshat

>>34528533
How is getting game and being proactive bad advice?
>>34528557
Why does the advice not work?

>>34528547
I will take that as a no on the happy and stable relationship status.

>the best way to get into a relationship is to do nuffin!
I did say I would give your advice a try, since you clearly know what you are talking about. So why are you seething? lol

>>34528564
>doesn’t know what NTA means
lol

>>34528562
Game doesn't even exist for starters

>>34528562
The advice is deemed as faulty as I asked him three times earlier in the thread if his own advice has worked for him, and he failed to answer and is instead insulting me and putting words in my mouth.

>>34528572
How? It's just being charismatic and being flirty.
>>34528573
Ok if he didn't answer that's kind of dumb but you can go to social events and see men hitting up women.

>>34528570
Nice plausible deniability.
But I did say I will try, if that makes me a subhuman than sure. It is better than arguing on an image board, wouldn't you agree?

>>34528572
It does exist. It just doesn’t work if you’re a colossal crybaby that treats basic socialization as a gay humiliation ritual

>>34528581
There is no such thing as game that makes a difference in getting a relationship because its your appearance that women care about. It literally doesn't matter what you say. If you couldn't speak your mother would still love you for similar reasons.

>>34528593
No it doesn't. Never has, stupid cunt. That's why his advice doesn't work. Fucking retard.

>>34528602
Please make sure that crying zillenial / millenial schizoposter doesn't see this, their frail old heart might explode!

>>34528602
Yes appearance matters but people can absolutely talk themselves out of a potential relationship and people can talk themselves from a "hmm I don't know" to a sure.

>>34528378
I am so sorry to see that your genuine question went unanswered anon, I wish these idiots would not argue with each other and actually help out one another.

But the 'conversation' / 'proactive' guy shat up the thread after being asked to elaborate on his advice.

I do hope you get a helpful answer though.

>>34528615
Dude you’re the one that’s crying

When women get past their early 20s, instead of outright signaling their attraction to every guy that looks at them, they will act more demure, less willing to engage, and be more selective about who they want to have sex with. It’s not because they don’t want to have sex, it’s because they get tired of having sex with just anyone, especially men who lack any real game.

How do I keep the interest going once we meet up?
I have this reoccurring issue where I’ll match with a girl have a great conversation and plan a date and she will tell me she’s excited to meet me etc but once we meet in person it’s like shes there against her will, a lousy date with an expected rejection the next day

Or another situation
Meet a girl out socially, she’s into me, we have some drinks and have a fun night. When I try to plan another activity with her she gets cold feet and isn’t feeling it anymore and then the connection dies

Are you supposed to leave a comment on the people you like on Hinge? I've just been doing it because I'm bored.

>>34528669
You just have to accept that those women are just either too insecure, shy, or just boring.

>>34528617
No you can't. Thats why pick up artists have ugly pig girlfriends or gook wives. Game does not exist. Its not popular anymore because men have tried it and have been treated like shit. You are a fucking useless idiot.

>>34528664
Who cares. I don't want a ran through whore. I will pay them though.

>>34528692
Makes no difference. Just a huge waste of time.

>>34528669
That's because they see your face in person and they don't like it

>>34528316
>have to look at an AI hag for the next couple days
Curse this OP.
We don't need this links either.

>>34528717
What causes this though I try to be genuine when I share pictures. Is it equivalent to seeing a fat girl irl when all her photos were thinner?

>>34528763
Honestly I don't know why they would do that when they've seen your photos.

>>34528763
Don't listen to him anon. Just accept that you'll never really know the reason and not to assume the worst. If they aren't engaging with you then move on. Why try harder for someone who's not trying at all? Do you really want a partner who's not willing to put in an effort or communicate?

>>34528780
I didn't assume anything. Women primarily care about looks. If you want to delude yourself you are a fuckwit.

Do fags and women have more-or-less the same standards for beauty? There's a guy at my work who's gay and has managed to develop a 3-years-now crush on me somehow based on appearance alone. I didn't give a shit about it but recently I've been thinking that it could really up my self-esteem, and by extension confidence when talking with women, if I knew that I look alright and there are women out there who would have crushes on me. I'm not short or anything, so does my attractiveness to this nigga translate to attractiveness to certain women?

>>34528881
I feel like gay men and women have different tastes but I can't prove it.

>>34528784
I'd start asking them if this happened more than twice

I'm sure you brought the same personality as the online conversations... Maybe the dates were distracting or uncomfy. What did you guys do? Coffee?

I usually fall asleep when I'm walking with others. I get wayy too distracted by everything or feel sleepy

>>34528784
Looks is the first thing that can disqualify you. Bad vibes or attitude is what ruins it later.

>>34528881
Gay bottoms yes gay tops no. If faggots are telling you something that means girls are thinking it.

>>34528316
How do I meet women, or people in genrral? I basically only leave the house for college classes and I'm about to graduate. I'm feeling really lonely.

>>34528907
I’m the anon the asked the question, those kind of brick-wall dates have only happened twice out of 13 dates (all different women) first time was from a dating app, she was happy to be meeting me and we met at the public Riverwalk and did a walk and talk date but with that she was uneasy as soon as I said hi
Second time it happened was similar, but it was a dinner date. I was already there when she walked in and when she saw me she was confused like could I really be the same guy. And like the other woman the whole night was like pulling teeth, she didn’t speak unless I spoke to her first and had nothing to add to any topic I spoke about. Both dates lasted about an hour. The next day for each I just got a “yeah it wasn’t the right vibe” text
For other dates they will go very well, laughing talking flirting, but those lead to rejection texts too which hurt but I tried not to dwell on it

Starting to realize I don't actually like most women as people

>>34528557
Ok. So how do you think people end up in relationships, with FWBs and one night stands? By sacrificing goats in Satanic rituals and then everything happens magically? Enlighten me.

>>34528396
>. They are not ignoring you, they are just being demure because they can sense through your pheromones that you are on the hunt.
I'm the OP of that post and to clarify, I don't believe that's the case. I've tried greeting, get stonewalled or given attitude immediately. I then only speak in regards to my job, and the other associates give me more shit, giggling and cussing me out on rare occasions. For the most part, I don't really want to talk to women who disrespect me so freely and want to become someone that isn't such an easy target for that shit.

>>34529109
I don't think it's your fault, disrespect to perceived authority figures is just in vogue right now. They're trying to bait you for a response so they can get clicks. This happens a lot to bouncers too.

>>34528881
Gay men have higher standards than women. If gay dudes are crushing on you your probably handsome or above average

>>34529109
They're not disresepcting you, they are disrespecting your job.
Any job where you wear a uniform makes you do that because your position is supposed to supercede your person. And as the other Anon said, "inertactions" with security personnel are currently an easy way to generate clickbait for social media.

>>34529121
I get that constantly, but gay dudes care less about height, don't they? I'm not small, just average.
I never thought about my height until this internet craze popped off, now it makes me kinda insecure. Can't gauge how important it actually is.

>>34529143
Not really care about height but they are really picky about your face and body.

>>34529159
>about your face and body.
I have a good face ,but I'm definitely and visibly out of shape

I can't take it anymore
I've achieved personal goals, I've built myself a career and a home, I put time for my hobbies, I participate in competitions
Yet people I know keep bringing up why I don't have a gf, that I should be fucking 10 girls a day, that all the things I do are cool but yadda yadda gf when
Year after year I've stopped doing these things I like out of love but just as a distraction from my own head reminding me the things they say
I don't know what to do, all my life I believed that chasing girls it's bad and that they should naturally come to you, but this never happens
I've been considering just ending it all....

>>34529251
>all my life I believed that chasing girls it's bad and that they should naturally come to you, but this never happens

Well, you diagnosed the problem, you found out where you went wrong, which now enables you to fix the issue.
Why end it when you can instead go and get girls?

>>34529266
I don't know how

>>34529287
Read up on some basics and then go. Its harder said than done, but this is a learning by doing thing. Having good social skills and good looks helps a ton though.

>>34529307
I think my biggest problem is that I'm too safe when talking and I don't tease/flirt or spice things up
I can talk to people normally, I do it all the time because of my job, but when it comes to talking to get something going my brain keeps thinking "don't be cringe"

>>34529324
A trick that helped me a lot was just to think about how I want to fuck her. 90% of this shit is nonverbal, so you will notice how you will begin instinctively subcommunicating your intent. Its not so much about actively doing stuff as about giving yourself permission to let her know that you want to smash.

>>34529333
Does this works as an adult? I remember that's how I behaved as a horny teen and it worked

>>34529343
Yup. You just weren't as inhibited yet as a teen. You should revive that.

>>34529352
Ill try

>>34529114
>They're trying to bait you for a response so they can get clicks
>>34529131
>, they are disrespecting your job.
Then why the fuck do my coworkers who have been there for a shorter period of time have more rapport with the associates? Don't see them catch shit anywhere near as often.

>>34529370
Maybe it's your vibe? If you look stuck up, shit stirrers are going to be more likely to try to fuck with you.

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date with a second girl from within in the last 4.5 months... woah. That's meeting almost 5.5 girls a year...

>>34529661
Like the fit and the cut. Just gotta keep trying man.

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>>34529343
Other anon is right. You guys are so worked up about what to say instead of how you say it and the body language you give off. If your eyes are bugging out of your head and your shoulders are carrying tension and you look like a wound fucking spring, what you say doesn’t fucking matter.

>>34529661
Pay Mrs. Kim at the KorEan laundromat $20 bucks a pop to get a few shirts taken in.

Guys if you're not Chad just use AI to edit your photos to make you look like Chad.

>>34529107
You already know how and why

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>>34528936
>If faggots are telling you something that means girls are thinking it.
One time a gay guy and a cute girl approached me in the store and told me how cute I was. I was flattered but felt bad about dismissing the gay guy to get to the girl, so I did nothing.

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>>34530078
I like baggy button ups
they're fa

>>34528936
Doubt it. Women only want men that fits a socially comfortable bright outlook. They don't like guys who are just attractive. Just attractive is their father or cousin who tries too hard. No, what they want is that guy that makes their life socially comfortable.

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>>34528316
What is the difference between a woman being nice to you and a woman actually liking you?