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What is /htgwg/?

How to Get Women General is by anons, for anons, about the modern dating landscape. So bring all of your questions about dating here. Some anons on this site actually get partners and laid, and some of them even want to help. If you're trying to meet and date people, then this is the place to ask questions, seek advice, and share experiences. We know how hard it can be. We got you bro.

>What is /htgwg/ not?

These threads are NOT for whining, moping, incels, femlcels, MGTOW, hopelessness, pinkpillers or demoralization. We're all aware that meeting and dating people is hard today, and even harder for some, but /htdg/ is for trying to overcome the challenges. IGNORE the posters who complain, give up, or insist there's nothing they can do. This site has other boards and threads that they can pollute. BE SMART: Spot the bait, don't reply, and DON'T WASTE TIME ARGUING WITH THEM!

>How to ask for advice

Context is important: be more specific than "I got ghosted, why?" We can't help if we don't know the situation, so try to provide as much (useful) info as possible ("I was at the bar, someone was checking me out..."). What's your relationship with them? How long have you known them? Any conversation screenshots? Etc... Don't forget to ask an actual question.

>Resources and Books
https://wingman.live/ (AI dating coach)
https://www.youtube.com/@HealthyGamerGG
https://www.youtube.com/@YourWingmam
https://pdfcoffee.com/318797392-mark-manson-models-2016pdf-4-pdf-free.html
https://archive.org/details/robert-glover-no-more-mr-nice-guy-id-353324692-size-612
https://www.doctornerdlove.com/blog/
https://pastebin.com/7U5Sdhwq (embed) (Leykis 101)
https://www.fantasticanachronism.com/p/how-to-be-good-at-dating

REMEMBER: It's good to read and prepare, but don't overdo it. Get off this site: go learn and build up your social skills by meeting actual people in the real world.
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>>35025244
>How to Get Women
1. Live in a place with women.
2. Mog the local men.

That's it. None of this PUA garbage helped anyone besides the dating coaches and their wallets.

If you're a manlet, move to a SEA shithole where you will mog everyone there.
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I have joined a dance class and I met a girl I pretty much like. When we've coupled together we keep eye contact and have quite a good vibe.

After the classes we sometimes hit the drinks with a couple of other friends and we joke a lot. The problem is we're never alone.

I don't wanna invite her out and if she refuses having to continue taking dance classes because of the weirdness. But I really think we might be clicking together.

No idea what to do. Any tips?
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>>35025422
bee yourself. always comes down to that at the end.
in the meantime you have a built in safe entry point, retard. ask her to meet up an hour early to work on some steps youre struggling with
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>>35025422
why would it be weird to continue taking dance classes because she declined a date? that is a retarded take. are you only taking this dance class so that you can date this specific girl? it's only weird in your head. girls are usually flattered when invited to a date, even if they decline because they are already dating someone or are not interested in you romantically. also why do you feel the need to be alone with her to bring the conversation further? you can talk one on one with her even in a group. show interest in her, her life, her past, etc. then invite her for a drink at another time. stop overcomplicating things
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>>35025286
you don't even have to mog but yes being around women is pretty much a guarantee to get one
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Been dating a woman for a month and I asked her to be my girlfriend yesterday and she accepted. She's my first girlfriend and I'm 34 years old.
The best thing about having a girlfriend is the steady supply of sex IMO.

Basically I went from incel/redpill idiot to gf. AMA.
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Are your chances with women in their mid-20s probably over if you're bald and in your mid-30s no matter how much you self-improve?
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>>35025286
>2. Mog the local men.
This is easier than it sounds. Most dudes are anxious and entitled.
Just by being cool, treating women with respect and making your intentions clear you already mog 90% of men.
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>>35025785
Some women hate bald guys. Some women don't care or even like bald guys. Age isn't as relevant as you think in this case. Stop thinking in retarded absolutes.
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>>35025779
how did you meet her?
congrats
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>>35025630
>anon joined a dance class and met the women of his dreams
>but he's about to find out...
>that asking her out...
>is harder than it looks.
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>>35025798
Statistical probability is a thing. Only so many young women.
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>>35025779
How old is she?
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>see tomboy with berserk tattoo at run club, doesnt talk to anyone, always at the edge of the group, shows up right before we start and leaves almost immediately after
We talked a bit last week and she seemed excited to know i would be there this week, but she just did the same not talk to anyone and leave after a few minutes again. I did have a short convo with her during the run but we were doing different routes so we didnt stay together. I thought maybe when she was done we would talk, idk why i pussied out of just saying something myself, maybe i didnt want to be too tryhard always coming up to her. I walked by at one point but she didnt say anything. What am i doing wrong? How do you deal with shy women?
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Do I get back on dating apps? I'm trying to go out and be more sociable, but I feel like I'm leaving opportunities on the table. I havent used them in a few months because I saw my ex who kinda cheated on me early this year and it fucked me up again.

I also need good pictures but don't know what to use as an example and have no friends to take them. My current photos are all me playing music on stage which sounds sick, until you realize I had hinge for 3 months and got no likes or matches. Atp im gonna have to get my camera and tripod and do something on my own but i dont know what pictures will get me interest
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>>35025800
Tinder
>>35025932
40
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>>35026144
Please be trolling, else youre gonna get cooked
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>started talking a woman for a while
>one day shes really flirty with me
>the next day doesnt talk to me at all
>2 days later she said she hasnt been feeling well and got her period and wont be around for a while

man everytime things start looking up for me something goes wrong
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>>35025286
I'm close to pulling the trigger. I am 6ft, maybe a 6 or 7, have hobbies, a great body, but never have luck with white women. Just Asian women. Some of them doctors. They all hope on hinge in September so I missed the boat this season

Idk why its like this
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>>35025244
FYI this thread is #370 if we want to maintain the numerical continuity going forward
And this was the previous >>34975480
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>just go out more
where? its cold outside now
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>>35026160
Why would I be trolling?
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>>35026144
oooof how old are you?
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I feel so much better after jacking off
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>>35026269
put on a jacket and go meet girls wearing cute winter outfits fuckin hell
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One of the most important things when dating is to stick to the idea that you simply are just a person who is trying to be decent. Don't act like you are the shit like some people here do. You are simply someone who is just trying to be a decent person.
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>>35026475
when its dark out? are you serious?
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>>35025785
"hair systems" (I just call it a hairpiece) actually work. Women started flirting with me after I got it.
If you're skull bald it's also a type. The only real mistake is trying to fight the norwood reaper on his own turf.
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When you get a girl's number from an app, do you usually call her or just text her? I'm just starting to match with women now for the first time and got a number already, but i'm retarded. I've been texting but i'm wondering if I should call some of my matches eventually for the first contact off the app.
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>>35025795
This is some of the best advice in this thread and it’s ignored. Making your intention clear immediately sets you above most men. You have to make it immediately clear that this is sexual. This is easier said than done for many men. Many think just by approaching that is enough but it’s not, you have to give “I want to fuck you” energy WHILE also not appearing desperate, playing it cool as you said.
Too much shame around expressing your sexuality. I want to fuck you but I don’t need you, communicates you are not desperate and have options. But nonetheless you will fuck her. Can’t be doing weak ass approaches IRL or online, you have to show you’re cool and not desperate while showing you’re sexual but able to keep things fun/non-sexual at the same time (don’t look like a fucking gooner). Very few guys are actually doing this and the ones that are have unlimited girls basically.
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>there's a girl in the group I asked out but she said no
>she's so nice that I'm finding it impossible to know where she's actually at with me.
>started acting like she's made of glass because other than the actual rejection (which was feather light) she's never said a negative word to me.
>but actions speak louder than words and she also never seeks me out, which makes me schizo that it's an act for some reason
It's an extremely weird spot to be in. Is there a way to read her mind a little more accurately?
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>>35026752
She said no, and never seeks you out, that should be enough.
I was told no once years ago and then she manufactured bridges nonstop towards me, it was a functional no at the time because she wasn't ready, not because she wanted to.

This particular girl is just worried about your feelings and concept of her, not really interested.
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>>35026761
>She said no, and never seeks you out, that should be enough.
I understand that loud and clear, I'm more trying to figure out how genuine her feelings of friendship are. Probably genuine but I'm getting schizo like I said.
>I was told no once years ago and then she manufactured bridges nonstop towards me, it was a functional no at the time because she wasn't ready, not because she wanted to.
That's sort of how it is, can you elaborate?
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>>35026775
>That's sort of how it is
You literally just said she never seeks you out.
This woman was making excuses to be with me and seeking me and opening up, the interest was always there, but not her head (at the time).


Just ride it out and see how she behaves, you're not her therapist, if she wants a friendship it'll happen or die out, doesn't matter much which is why you always ask out asap.
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>>35026782
Oh I misunderstood what you meant by manufactured bridges.
>why you always ask out asap.
I did, most of our friendship is after I asked her out...
Which makes me realize I'm being irrational, nobody's running a months long con to protect feelings.
Maybe I'm the one who needs a therapist.
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ANSWER ME, COWARDESS
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>>35025963
i dunno if women are allowed to give their two cents in here but as a very timid woman myself, you need to be persistent but not in an overwhelming or creepy way. maybe consistent is a better word, but shy women also can get overwhelmed by that. you guys only see each other at the run club so i don't think you need to worry about that yet. shy girls need more time to build up the courage to reciprocate or decide how they'll proceed, and need more signals than the average woman that you're interested. she probably was disappointed you didn't talk to her.
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>>35026993
Sincere viewpoints from women are helpful, the reason women's dating advice for men is so looked down upon is when it's
>just bee urself
or
>be glad people are ignoring you, having too many options sucks :(
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>>35026993
Women insight is crucial or it just becomes a bunch of incels and some dudes actually trying to help.
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>>35026414
Have you read my first post? I'm 34.
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>>35026782
Speaking of this kind of shit, wondering if anyone got any insight here.

I've posted about this before, I'm the retard that has been in this weird limbo with a girl.
TL;DR
>She chased and kept getting close to me
>Asked her out after I caught feelings, she said she couldn't, she had a bf
>Then immediately tries to hook me back in within the hour after the rejection, I wasn't giving her much attention nor orbiting so not like she was gonna be starving
>Keeps trying, we eventually grow even closer, night voice messages, talking about the future, sharing hobbies and likes, she keeps trying to make time for us to be together under several excuses, tells me her birthday and that she'll be mad if I forget, introduces me to her friends, still no mention of bf before or after

It was getting too weird for me so I was about to have a talk with her, but out of sheer luck, with her friend the topic of cheating and relationships came up and I said how I felt, cheating is disgusting, if you want someone else while in a relationship cut it out, find yourself and then figure out if you do want them.
Within 24 hours she broke up with the boyfriend, but
1) She hasn't told me yet
2) She doesn't know I know, I saw it through her socials when I checked after she seemed off, but I don't really use them other than that
Apparently it was a toxic as fuck relationship already on the brink of death, plus the guy being a massive piece of shit, but still.
I believe she tried telling me or trying to talk about something heavy a couple days ago as she sent a plain
>"Hey"
At like 9 pm, but she got cold feet when I didn't see it for an hour, she has never communicated like this before so it's kinda obvious.

So my questions are:
>How long should I wait before doing anything here? Bad relationship or not you always mourn
>Should I even bother?
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Is it possible to have a woman look at you like this irl? If so, what should one do? I crave this more than sex at this point.
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>>35025119
Ok, what a customer you've seen and spoken to a few times, and how do you flirt with a coworker? Actually, I think the last question is more of a how do you flirt with women in general kind of question.
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>>35027362
Anon you need to accept life without her. This dream girlfriend you want she gives you a hug but at home is with a kingpin who is a million times more than what you'll ever be. It's sad you won't be at his level, but you got to be happy with what you have. You can't do that now with this current crush it will be the same thing over and over and it'll lead to manic depression. Be happy being alone first before loving a woman.
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>>35027496
I assume you meant >>35027191. I'm extremely lonely and crave the genuine interest of a woman but once I know a woman has a boyfriend I back off.
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>>35027511
No retard he's literally saying she got KAZUYA'D
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>>35027513
How do I become Kazuya then? Will she exist if I become a heartless bastard and make fat stacks?
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>>35027515
Yes, why do you think ugly bastards are a thing
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Went out to cold approach
i go out to approach women and they all look past me ignoring me
it's like they're inherently trying not to get approached
there's like 3 women every 2 hours that are not ugly and approachable and I go into a busy shopping district

Cold approach seems dead af
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>>35027725
Never cold approach. Women will ignore you at best and get scared of you at worst. I've tried to ask women on dates and seen true fear in their eyes before.
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You know that stereotype that women have of the 30 year old guy who they dated when they were 15, and they realise when they're much older how much of a loser he was? Well how do those guys get access to those girls and get to date them?
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>>35027857
Because 15 year olds are retarded?
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>>35027857
No woman will ever love you anon, 90% of women out there do not love their man, they don't know how to love anyway; they only tolerate him as long as he provides.
Learn to be stoic and get by without their fake and subpar love therefore about 90% of women should be invisible to you. Rise up above your biological programming.
Take care of your health anons and find distractions to help pass the time, that's all most people do anyway, the difference is they do it with somebody so time spent together flows differently. It's merely an illusion though.
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>>35027971
>>35028017
Okay but how do I get a schoolgirl girlfriend?
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>>35028047
Go back in time.
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>>35028017
You know what love is? Make her cum. That's it. She will "love" you then.
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>>35027678
In a slightly more serious note having someone with an urgent desire to fix you means you need a lot to be fixed. I don't really want to be fixed I do need someone who can help me with my goals which are pretty ambitious and may involve running a corporation lmao.
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You know anon, considering most women now are turning bisexual, at least you are getting cucked by hot lesbian sex.
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>>35027857
They make the effort. Also mutual friends. Social settings. Work.
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>>35028067
I would make her cum multiple times with my fingers alone before nailing her so hard she ripped her childhood quilt, she still didnt want to date me and fucked someone else the second i didnt validate her without even a conversation.
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>>35028478
Ok, go make another woman cum then. What are you, a fag?
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How do i be more kinder or gentle to women. I had bad childhood and family who were critical of everything and it still takes a lot of work being forgiving of my old meaner self and moving on from that.
I treat both sexes the same as in I show respect and keep things surface level. At times I see other guys talk normal to me but to women more sweetly almost baby like or not as serious. It feels natural to them. I want to be like that so bad. Is it a mindset or misogyny thing? What can I change about myself
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>>35026716
>act like you want to fuck her but dont be desperate and act cool and not like you want to fuck her

how do you make this work in practice
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The game is over, as I am fond of saying.

The women won. They are in control of the eugenics program and the multi-trillion-dollar pussy reward system — a highly symbolic fertility ritual. But they are in control of much more than the reproductive apparatus. They control not only the men and government of the United States of America but through the power of pussy and the susceptibility of men and government officials, fiat currency manipulation by the Witches of Fiat Currency at the Federal Reserve System, a large army of simps and "backers" (this is a technically incorrect use of the term) who are fighting to maintain control of the Frankenstein monster they created called Onlyfans (in a war I fear we are going to lose), and even the Republican form of government they created which inevitably—and I would argue by design—fosters centralized female matrilineal control and assures only a handful of "pre-selected" men must be sacralized to control an entire country, they control the entire world.
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wtf does it mean when a woman wants to be "seen" and "heard"
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Why am I so unattractive to women?
Is it because I'm ugly? Boring? Stupid? Autistic? All of the above?
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>>35029753
you don't convey enough status in the settings you find yourself in
that's it

on a dating app status is purely photo quality and looks
at your job it's being in the leader role
at a starbucks it's the guy who knows all the workers

so in your case it's probably autism / low iq
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How do I get the courage to make my first ever dating app profile at age 27? I’m an avoidant khv that’s never been on a date btw
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>>35026660
Got it
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>>35025553
>ask her to meet up an hour early to work on some steps youre struggling with
but why would he do that if that’s not actually the case? that would be retarded
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An important thing to recognize about women is that they have to be tough to survive and that means they have to be mean to you. I know it is shocking when you are being nice to them and out of nowhere they start shouting at you or fighting you, and when this is random, it is them being tough so that they can survive. Sometimes women do not know how to survive without being tough, because the fear is if they aren't tough they are vulnerable and when they are vulnerable they get harmed. There is absolutely no other way around this, as this means you have to live a different life, have different circumstances, and be of different character. It is what it is anon. That's why the jock wins all the time despite being an asshole, because he knows what it is like being tough, and without that toughness there would be no survival.
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>>35030404
That's a specific type of woman.
Most women don't fight or argue for no reason. The reason might be incredibly petty: leaving dishes in the sink or knocking over her houseplant. They're Karens.



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