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Which otters do you like?
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I don't like otters, they're menaces like all mustelids.
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>>4875401
Sea otters, the ones that don't eat other otters.
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River wolves
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>>4875401
bastard creatures
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>>4875401
North American river otters
I came across one leaning against a tree, peeing like a drunk in the bathroom of a bar.
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>>4875401
Not that otter, the OTTER one!
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>>4875769
your joke's otterly embarrassing.
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>>4875686
>the ones that don't eat other otters
never heard of otters doing this
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>>4875401
Everyone besides the giant otter, they are ugly.
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>>4875401
All of them i love them all
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>>4875778
it happens, but don't take it too seriously. they are animals after all, and infant cannibalism is strangely common in mammals. strangely common as in weird it happens at all, with maternal instinct and all.
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All other otters are cute, but the giant otter is beautiful.
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>>4875671
Leftist scientists: Fuck races, speciesism is le bad.

>>4875401
I would all.
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>>4875401
total otter love
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>>4875401
Everyone knows sea otters are the best
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>>4875785
don't call them that
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>>4877781
Gorgeous
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>>4875401
>https://nypost.com/2021/12/10/man-attacked-by-gang-of-otters-i-thought-i-was-going-to-die/
>Jogger runs through pack of Otters crossing a path in a Botanic Gardens
>Enraged Otters attack and swam a random elderly man taking a stroll instead of the jogger
Whichever ones aren't these little dumb assholes
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>>4878170
Those are the singapore otters and they are awesome
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>>4875401
All the ones I otter
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>>4878170
I believe those are smooth-coated otters. They look a lot like small-clawed otters, but they're slightly bigger and slightly uglier, especially the pups
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>>4878199
Why do even asian animals look asian?
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you're in the club and this guy comes up and slaps your gf's ass what do you do
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>>4878199
blep
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>>4875750
>my favorite animal is The Rape one, yes, how could you tell?
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>>4875778
Eating and raping other otters is how they play, they're horrible creatures and you need to reevaluate some things in your life.
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>raping
whatever
>eating other otters
this never happens
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>>4878239
Yes but I've heard otter semen taste gross like rotten fish.
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>>4878216
They give off hairy anaconda vibes.
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>>4878239
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guess which one's a smooth-coated otter
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>>4878847
bottom one
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>>4875671
>being this mind broken on an animal board
Grim. I look forward to your little tantrum of a response.
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>>4877225
You notice how they're all otters though right?
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>>4875401
>marine otter
>sea otter

Shouldn't these be the same thing? Marine means sea.
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>>4879290
Different parts of the world. Sea otters live on the northern hemisphere while marine otters are along the coast of Chile.
Sea otters also mostly spend their time in the water, marine otters spend their time on land.
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I hope I can see otters at the river one day, I only get to see footprints and their shit markings
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>>4879150
he's right
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>>4879725
>marine otters spend their time on land
Then shouldn't they be called terrestrial otters?
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>>4879732
I've seen them up in the mountains around Mt. St. Helens before. There's some ponds up there they swam around in.
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Otters are based
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Can you name the species of this here ott?
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>>4879790
congo clawless?
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>>4879009
>>4879794
correct
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>>4878204
too much time spent doing math
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Otter is Loutre in french. They are amazing I love them. They are ruthless creatures though. And Lutra Lutra is such a pretty name.
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It's sea otter awareness week, I hope you're aware of sea otters
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>>4882262
I think I have heard of them before, possibly
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>>4882334
oooh you are sooooo awareee
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>>4875401
Sea otters, duh.

>Most biologically differentiated from other otter species
>Only animal besides humans that holds hands
>Only mustelid species and one of the few non-human animals that DOESN'T stink
>Everyone who works with sea otters says they have distinctive personalities
>One of the few animals besides humans to use tools
>Keystone species, plays a crucial ecological role
>Their presence makes seagrass healthier, which creates a buffer against coastal flooding
>Brings in lots of money for their localities through tourism
>Has the same bite force as a black bear, but has never been recorded killing a human (all the "otter attacks" on humans that Google shows are perpetrated by other otter species)
>Rarely if ever come on land, so you will never even be attacked by one unless you get too close to them in the water and provoke them
>All their occasional "bad" behavior is common in the animal kingdom and not unique to them
>The cutest teddy bear faces

Don't listen to any plebe who tells you sea otters aren't God-tier animals.
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>>4875401
Guh
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otters will inherit the earth
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Die Kreuzotter.
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>>4875401
This one's cute, can't tell the species though.
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>>4875774
>>4875778
you guys otter be banned for your stupid puns
also, i love river otters, i see them around here
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>>4884275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XfcUUxJ38A
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>>4884794
I love sea otters
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sea otters are okay
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>>4884794
Boop
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>>4884794
>>4887849
Sea otters are so cute
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>>4884275
>>4884794
Once they grow large enough, they are unstoppable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01iWx4476pY
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>>4875401
The kind that will eat your infant child after trying to rape its mother you sick fuck.
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>>4887849
This is not real. This is a stuffed animal they sell in stores.
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>>4875677
Are orangutan the whites of the ape world? I'm sure /an/ has decided, I just haven't browsed enough to learn.
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>>4887849
>>4888477
They really are this cute. There's a reason the Japanese recognize them as the ultimate kawaii animal.
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>>4888478
Orangutans probably have the highest percentage of rapes of any animal. Rape is normal behavior for orangutans. They're even worse than chimps.

The actress Julia Robert was almost raped by an orangutan.
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>>4878216
Weird, its forelegs look scaly.
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>>4879725
Sea otters used to spend more time on land before hunting drove them offshore.
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>>4888484
Dude, you can even see the seam across its nose.
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>>4888514
That's just a watermark. This time it appears as a necklace.
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>>4888484
>>4888517
MAY-CHAN!!!
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this guy comes up to you and paws your leg wyd???
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>>4888766
Hold his hand.
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What does a shaved otter look like? Has anyone ever seen one?
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>>4883953
Yeah but they rape THOUGH
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>>4888766
Boop him on the nose!
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>>4889101
>>4888976
>>4888517
>>4888484
>>4887849
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Why do otters have this irresistible allure?
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>>4890732
They're God's favorite creatures
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>>4875671
LMAO
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>>4875671
way to ruin a thread you piece of shit
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>>4890732
Curiosity, use of tools, their hands, and squeaking.
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>>4891337
it's true tho
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>>4875671
seething /pol/troon tourist doesn't understand what a species is. more at 11.
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>>4891535
>humans are magical creatures exempt from nature
wow amazing youre a genius may i suck your "dick" for you?
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>>4891902
>may i suck your dick for you?
sure can. it's quite large but i know you have experience with this kinda thing.
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>>4875671
>>4877225
Tbf tiger and wolf subspecies are a much closer equivalent.

>>4879150
>>4891337
Extinct yourself, faggots.

>>4891535
inb4:
>socialist grade school socialist teacher definition about fertile hybrids
Also kill yourself, pinko.
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>>4875401
Like them all almost equally except sea otters. They look fat, lazy and hairy just like all the dirty lefty hippies ITT.

Lean towards my favourites being African clawless and spotted necked due to childhood encyclopedia nostalgia.
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>>4875671
Humans are retarded as a rule, not the exception, never forget it.
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hey guys are we still talking about otters
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maybe.
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>>4892429
But sea otters are the smartest otters and are the only ones that use tools with any regularity
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>>4892513
I don't know if "banging on a rock" can be considered using tools. It's not like they invented the tool. Might as well say crows "use tools" when they line up nuts in the road and wait for a car to break them.
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>>4892518
Sea otters don't just "bang on rocks." They will grab a rock (or other hard object) with their hands, store it in their pouch, and bring it back to the surface with them so that they can use it as a hammer or an anvil. That's clearly tool use. The pups learn how to do this by observing their mothers, so it's not purely instinctual and displays the ability to learn and acquire skills from observation.
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>>4892513
Almost like using tools requires jack shit for intelligence and mostly requires a body capable of using the tools to begin with. Weird.
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Sea otters have the densest fur in the world. This means they are the most cuddly creatures ever, but few humans have ever experienced cuddles with a sea otter. I can only imagine how it could feel
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>>4892529
Appendages able to grasp objects are a necessary but not sufficient condition for tool use. For example, koalas and opossums have opposable thumbs just like humans and other primates do, but they don't use tools and koalas are almost notoriously dim-witted.

This is not true for sea otters, who demonstrate the ability to learn from observation and adapt to novel situations, problem solve, etc. Though I must say you're not demonstrating intelligence well here.
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Sea otters are so battle hardened they rip the shells off oysters using their bare teeth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFTEWbzrm9E
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>>4875401
Any but the Ojibwe ones.
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>>4891535
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>>4875671
lol
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>>4875671
kek you triggered the discord troons
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>>4875401
All otters are good otters. Giant otters are a little scary but still good.
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>>4893762
DELET
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>>4875671
Unironically because the scientists 200 years ago were so racist that we got the "humans and animals have different ways to handle subspecies" and now we can't escape this bullshit social construct because """race""" has become synonymous with triber or (social) family.

Humans are stupid. You are stupid and so are your enemies.
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>>4893762
kek
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>>4893762
Coyotes have bigger dicks fuckin wolfboi fuck yall dog evolving into woggas
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good thread
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>>4890883
It's true, though. Why wouldn't this also function in humans? I seriously do not understand leftists at times. Do they think we're unicorns?
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>>4896094
It's a few things. Admittedly I'm not as knowledgeable as someone who's actually in the evobio field, but the big 2 things I'm aware of:
>humans are complicated
We're really good at taking care of dogs in a way we really aren't for humans. A working dog (and most who aren't) is guaranteed plenty of food designed for their enjoyment and nutrition, comfortable and safe housing, and decently comprehensive healthcare. This is not guaranteed for a human who works full-time, and in some places even if they work several part-time jobs at once.
Therefore, a human must be capable of a broader range of skills: budgeting, nutrition, apartment-hunting, basic preventative care, and so on, *in addition* to whatever they're specialized for. Humans wealthy enough to not require these skills rarely have their lineage last long enough in that position to be able to capitalize on it - our best attempt is royalty, and, well, you see how that's going. Regardless of ethics, it doesn't seem likely to be effective.
>intelligence is complicated
Intelligence isn't a single statistic like in D&D. Tolkien couldn't have written the theory of relativity, Einstein couldn't have composed Moonlight Sonata, and Beethoven couldn't have penned Lord of the Rings. And experts rarely quite understand the specifics of fields they're not specialized in (see: the parable of the spherical cow), which would lead to a very dysfunctional society.
Plus, intelligence styles are often outdated: portraiture overtaken by cameras, computers by, well, mechanical computers. We've kept alarm dog breeds around in the days of digital sensors and make sure to keep them well, despite their relative uselessness. But would we take care of a useless breed of humans? We barely do when we're just a single general-purpose breed. Regardless of effectiveness, it's unlikely to be ethical.
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how about those otters
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>>4896236
Human otters? Around the same as twinks/twunks for me.
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>>4896272
oh you
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>>4896141
God. Look at this cope. It's just scary.

Okay. Listen...

Let’s take the politics out of it and go back to the basics of biology.

Take two populations of the same species. Not humans- let’s say rabbits.

Isolate them genetically for a significant period (usually such isolation is caused by geography but it doesn’t matter why so long as interbreeding is minimal and is over enough generations for natural selection and genetic drift to occur).

Will there be a divergence of traits between the two populations?

The answer is yes, of course. Some traits will diverge becasue of natural selection, some because of sexual selection and some just becasue of genetic drift.

After all that is how evolution works - it simply must be the case.

Evolution isn’t just about when two populations diverge so greatly that a new species or sub-species forms - it’ happening daily for all sorts of traits and characteristics of an animal.

And the traits that most directly impact on fitness will tend to be subject to strong selection.

So wind it back to humans.

Have certain populations of humans being genetically isolated from each other for many generations?

Yes. We tend to call them ethnicities.

Will their traits vary as between population groups?

Yes. Hair type, blood group, eye colour, facial features, ability to digest certain foods, average height, body shape etc. All these traits demonstrably differ between ethnic groups.

Is intelligence a trait of humans that will likewise vary?

You can logically only choose one answer:

A) Yes - and as intelligence is one of a human’s key traits it is likely to be selected for quite strongly in different environments and communities,

B) No - intelligence is a special trait - alone amongst all traits it’s not possible for it to vary between groups at all - all groups of human beings have the same average intelligence.

If you pick B fine, but don’t expect to pass a biology class any time soon.
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>>4896552
I appreciate that you've recognized that I responded to you, but it would have been nice if you actually read what I wrote. My sincere apologies if that was too high an expectation.

Back on topic, here's a fearsome attack otter.
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>>4896618
Otters are vicious.
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>>4896620
what a scaredy-cat
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>>4875401
the giant ones are pretty cool
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>>4896618
t. failed biology class.
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>>4896552
Kek
This basest of logic will never make lefty shitheads seethe enough
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>>4896552
THIS
IS
HERESY
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otters?
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No otters…
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>>4900422
Yes otters!
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