So I work with the public in a grocery store and have come to realize that cat owners are the dirtiest and worst smelling group of people overallHowever there is one regular who is the worst smelling person I have ever met and I was giving cat owners the benefit of the doubt with him because he smelled so bad I assumed he must be a pig farmer or something like that who never washes his clothes or bathes. His stench is unreal. But then yesterday I saw him in line with three giant bags of cat food so I guess I was right all alongWhy dont cat owners realize how terrible they smell?
>grocery wagielollmao
>>4889835Its comfy, I am semi retired
>>4889834Catfags on Reddit will sincerely try the argue that the cat pictured managed to escape and kill the owl because they don't want to imagine Fluffy being turned into dinner for Hooter
>>4889838>i make up strawmen to make myself upsetFor what purpose?
>>4889839It's not a strawman. Are you embarrassed as a catfag to be associated with Reddit retards?Actual Redditor comments:>Feel sorry for the owl. Cats aint no bitch.>My thoughts exactly. Like, how is this owl going to eat this cat?!>Fuck that owl, I'm sure the cat was fine.>Things like great horned owls have more than enough strength to kill even adult cats, but that’s a barred owl, which is smaller and less powerful. It would still be possible for them to kill cats, but this is still a far more unusual occurrence than a larger owl taking a cat>True, this pic was circulating on FB some years ago and many of us believed it was the cat leaping up at the barred owl, not the other way around. An adult cat is much too large for a barred>That owl doesn't have the cat at a lethal angle, and might not have enough leverage to avoid the cat swinging upward and tearing its eyes out. If the owl doesn't drop the cat from really high up, it's going to have to let go for a better grip or lethal angle. The cat will kill it if that happens.>I've never wanted to punch a owl in the face before. Now I do.>Ok now the owls have gone to fucking far!!>this is fake. that's a barred owl, they aren't big enough to take a cat. They eat frogs and chipmunks, please stop spreading this bullshithttps://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/bw1fss/just_an_owl_catching_a_cat/
>>4889843I don't have a cat or use reddit. You seem to know more about it than I do.
>>4889843NOOOOOO NOOOOO THAT'S NOT TRUE THAT'S NOT TRUE NOOOOOOOO
>>4889843>redditor upset about reddit fagspottery
>>4889834Based owl avenging the birds
>>4889843They're pretty much all right, though.
>>4890121No they aren't. Cats don't have a chance against owls.
>>4890211In a theoretical case where the owl kills the cat on impact, maybe. That cat is clearly still alive and if the owl doesn't drop it immediately it's in troubl oh christ you're baiting aren't you? Can't there be a normal interaction on this fucking website? Why do you cock sucking zoomer scum come here just to waste everyone's time? Is it really that amusing? What do you get out of it, ten seconds of content for your dogshit stream? Off yourself, I'm dead serious.
>>4890280Anon, cats are weak as hell especially against a heavily feathered owl. Domestic dogs rip them to shreds. Domestic dogs are not wild animals that are taught to hunt by their parents that have been passing down hunting skills for thousands of years.If the cat is still alive the owl will just fly it into a tree branch, peck an eye out and pick it back up. Eagles kill WOLVES, and wolves are definitely more powerful than cats. Don't underestimate what birds can do against some four legged sucker who doesn't even have hands and knives/clubs/rocks.
I'll side with you here OP. Cats are fucking disgusting and make everything around them smell like utter shit. They shit and piss in a sandbox inside of your house and that heinous stench permeates through fucking everything. And then they walk all over everything in the house with their shitty pissy paws. Kitchen counters, pillows, everything just covered in shit sand. I haven't even gotten into their dander yet. Cats are fucking gross. Literally the Indians of the pet hobby.
>>4890289Cats will mark their territory with their urine. Disgusting animals.
>>48898347eah those cat owners sure do suck OP, huh?you're so superior much better person an anyone that ownes a catnobody ownes a cat and is richer than tyou or smarter or esxieer
>>4889834I feel the same thing only about dog owners.
>>4889836Apparently not retired enough to not deal with smelly people and complain about them online.
>>4889834Lmao that almost happened to my cat
>>4890289>Kitchen counterssounds like a you problem if you're letting your pets walk there
>>4890497Sounds perfectly retired
>>4890465Malding kek
>>4890512not a me problem at all because I don't allow unsanitary animals in my house
>>4889834>My owl thread died even with the retarded schizo spam>Decided to make his own thread to win his console warPersonally, I think owls benefit more from hunting more nutritionally dense foods like puppies and small dogs.
>>4889834Any more good pics/videos of birds killing cats?
>>4890857how sanitary are you, anon? do you regularly wash your hands, your foreskin, etc? take a shower and brush your teeth daily? or just when you have to leave the house
>>4891168Is that a real question?
>>4890289Cat owners need be spayed and neutered
>>4891273That's a no.
>>4891999Cats should be illegal. And I hope that with the spread of information about how disgusting and terrible cats are for human health that cats start being phased out as pets. Another big thing against cats is how they ruin the work of farmers making food for society and how cats destroy ecosystems. Cats not only need to become illegal but they need to be killed into extinction to preserve a healthy mankind and nature.
>>4892078cats live rent free in your head huh? wonder if you post the same shit in dog threads, just with "dog" in all the spots "cat" is
>>4892115NTA but cats are pests and cat owners are retarded while dogs and dog owners are not. Hope this helps!
>>4889838Apparently cats are a danger to the ecosystem so people are saying that you shouldn't be allowed to own one.
>>4892078100%. Spread the word about the cat pestilence.
>Cat bites and scratches can be fatal to pet birds. The Pasteurella multocida bacteria can go systemic reapidly and a bird who looks fine after a bite or scratch can be dead in the next couple days.
Amazing that people can post webms of cats brutally murdering innocent birds but if you do the same with a coyote muching on mittens its an instant ban#StopBirdHate
>>4889834Can anyone tell me how Owls kill their prey when they swoop down on them? Like they're just grabbing them that doesn't kill.
>>4892534They lift up their prey high in the air and then drop them so the prey dies from the impact. Then the owl swoops in and finishes the job if the animal somehow isn't dead already.
>>4892530Birds have it coming.
>>4892530mammals matter more man
>>4892565Parrots, corvids, and some other bird species are undeniably more intelligent than cats. Even magpies have more neurons in their cerebral cortex.
>>4892568Did the retard lose an eye?
>>4892747no but this bear did
>>4892534>Like they're just grabbing them that doesn't killIt does when your grip strength is like 1000 psi
>>4890284>cats are weak as hellFeral cats in particular seem able to walk off some pretty heavy injuries. The cat's still clearly alive in the pic and the cat's also clearly an adult and pretty heavy. If it was a kitten it'd have no chance.Owls have pretty sharp talons and good grip strength so the cat clearly got injured when grabbed, but feral cats surviving pretty grim injuries are a common thing.Eagles kill wolves when trained for it by humans. They can kill bears that way too, but these are by no means common occurrences.At this point the owl has to drop the cat if it wants to kill it, but otherwise the owl is pretty fucked, especially since birds are less resilient than feral mammals. Also spare us your bullshit about the thousands of years of passing skills, animal instincts are written hard enough that these are almost never forgotten, and usually only lack experience that'll still be acquired when released in the wild for long enough. Release pigs into the wild and they'll reintegrate pretty well. Release dogs and they'll form packs and behave like wolves. Cats also do go back to their primal instincts and strays are pretty violent hunters, and while they're instinctual hunters, strays also have the actual experience needed to be effective, which is why people consider them pests. There are exceptions, but they're individual cases. So that anon is right, and it pains me to say it but these redditors quotes are mostly right, a bigger owl would destroy the cat, but that one is fucked unless it goes for the drop.
>>4890284>Eagles kill WOLVESprovide proof
>>4892887https://youtu.be/tdfk6ktJfgw?si=ArQDLyvhxVy-PShY2:35 mins in
>>4892900Cool cherry picking, it's a Mongolian wolf. They're smaller than other wolves and usually don't weigh more than 80lbs (medium to large dog sized), so they're pretty light too. Also the Mongols train their eagles to hunt these wolves, like the other anon said, so it's likely not natural behavior.
>>4892808Every word is true but you wasted your time this is a birdfucker website. According to these subhumans cassowaries kill 800 maori a second. They are delusional.
>>4892808The cat is absolutely fucked. All it can do is get dropped from an unsafe height and break a leg before the owl kills it.It would have been a luckier cat to walk into a yard with a husky. Now THOSE are some vicious hunters. You think you've been impressed by what cats pull when going for the kill, but huskies get all of that agility out of a larger body and hunt much more intelligently. I have seen huskies catch birds midair and fish through water and intercept mice with skills that must be superior to a cat, because they have much more body and cant see objects close to their big ass nose. They are the only breed that consistently does this without being specifically bred for hunting.
>>4892944Anon, stop. Get a grip. That owl weighs three pounds, tops. If it didn't drop that cat immediately after the picture was taken there was blood and it wasn't the cat's. I don't even like cats that much but come on sis live in reality. How the fuck is the owl going to kill that cat? With its little beak? Get real. Raptorial birds rely on impact to kill. That's why they usually go for tiny pussy animals like mice and bats.
>>4892955>How the fuck is the owl going to kill that catBy dropping it and picking it up over and over again until it stops wriggling.
>>4892958Right and the cat, which is an animal notorious for being passive and suffering from even a minor fall, is just going to lay on the ground waiting for the owl to circle around to grab it again. Your toolish obedience to console warring against cats has given you the genius mind of a sub saharan african, congratulations.
>>4892963Yes, the cat dropped from high up by a moving bird is totally going to land safely and not slam into an object and end up too hurt to avoid the bird that was already aiming to pick it up before it was halfway to the ground because it's a freakin ninja and super smart and an apex predator!You sound like those people who can't imagine that coyotes eat cats and think its unnatural and a sign of unhinged aggression if a dog eats cats because "cats are superior animals to dogs"
>>4892966I literally don't give a fuck my guy, way to prove me right though. That owl either dropped the cat or that owl got fucked up. Your fetish for bird feet is not expressed in reality.
>>4892971>The owl dropped the cat (as part of its normal hunting strategy to deal with struggling prey(>and then picked it up again because it was right behind the falling cat, or started pecking because the drop paralyzed the catYes.Lesson for you: Don't leave small animals unattended if they're not in a safe enclosure.
>>4889834My mother was like this. Kept the two litter boxes right in the kitchen under the dining table and wasn't bothered by the smell. But she also smoked two packs of cigarettes a day so I guess in a way that masked the shit smell pretty well.
>>4893043I dont understand how cat people can live like thatMy aunt keeps a litter box right in the front entry so its the first thing you see and smell when you enter the home and you crunch the stray litter when you walk inIts like a complete horrible sensory experience
I fully believe an owl could lift a house cat. Cats are light af. I saw an eagle lift a wet adult goose out of the water. They're about the same size as owls, and a wet goose is infinitely heavier than a dry house cat that weighs 12 lbs.
>>4892920>Cool cherry picking, it's a Mongolian wolf. They're smaller than other wolves and usually don't weigh more than 80lbs (medium to large dog sized), so they're pretty light tooHe didn’t say eagles kill the biggest individuals of the largest wolf subspecies
>>4893043>>4893049I don't fucking get it either.>Walk into parents place>Notice they have a cat now>Covered kitty litter is kept between the bin and fridge, right next to where the pots and pans are keptLiterally couldn't have been closer to anything else if they put it right in the middle of the floor.Literally any other room, even the laundry, the spare room, by the back door, no. In the kitchen. I was incredulous but they looked at me like I was inventing a solution for a problem that doesn't, couldn't, exist.
>>4893081Then his argument is in bad faith, just spouting "eagles kill WOLVES" like that retard said would make you think that eagles kill the more known species of wolves which are larger. That's how retards in here will accept that information if spouted to them like that. He should have precised that these wolves are one of the smallest subspecies there is, and that the eagle hunting them are one of the largest subspecies too. And also that these are trained by humans to hunt wolves.
Someone should post that pic of the shit stained litter box setting right under a pantry full of rice and cereals.
>>4889834Hello, dogredditor. Trying a new fiction to rile up the paleoschizo? Though frankly I find it easy to believe you console warrior faggots are bagboys.
>>4893105speak english woman (amab)
>>4892955>How the fuck is the owl going to kill that cat?Do you have any idea how strong and sharp an owl's talons are? They're designed for ripping apart flesh and it's not like housecats have a particularly tough hide.
>Come to /an/ for neat animal pictures>Gore and console wars and those weird mutant toad fuckersI guess I shouldn't be surprised yet here I am.
>>4892971>>4892955>>4892923Cope more, catfags. Birds win again:https://youtu.be/mj_AV4pqa_w?feature=shared
>>4893131>A cat dropped from a height of let's say 4-5 feet would definitely break a bone or twoHey there, don't really have a dog in this fight, I like owls and cats, but a cat falling off a fridge isn't going to break bones, especially not if it's dropped in the woods on dirt and/or grass. Furthermore the higher up they're dropped the more time they have to adjust and brace for the fall, such that even from a few stories up they can walk it off. I'm not trying to contest the rest of your post or anything, just wanted to address that point for the sake of accuracy.
>>4893136>Furthermore the higher up they're dropped the more time they have to adjust and brace for the fallThe higher up they go, the stronger the impact on their bones once they collide with the ground..
>>4893139As I said, I'm not contesting the rest of it, I'm not trying to pick a fight over the ultimate outcome here, I'm just saying fall damage would be unlikely to be a factor.>>4893142They're actually more likely to take more damage inside a particular window closer to the ground. But anon picked out 4-5 feet, which isn't even as tall as the average person. That's a cat falling out of the arms of someone carrying it. It's not going to break a limb from that. Also, again, this is clearly in the woods, and chances are good there's underbrush or leaf cover on the ground, or at minimum dirt/mud. Cats have a tendency to maximize impact area upon falling to distribute the force of impact more evenly, lessening the overall damage. Then you factor in fur cushion, and the cat should be able to survive that. What happens afterward I sure can't say, and I can't account for claw damage to be sure, I'm just trying to correct anon about that one detail. It's not a strong point to the argument.
You guys know that cats also have claws right
>>4893148You know owls do too, right?
>>4893160Yeah but everyone is talking like the cat is defenseless and definitely going to become owl food when its obviously alive and struggling and bigger than the owl as well
>>4893146Anon, you and a few others have provided healthy arguments, but most of the people on this thread are genuinely suffering from mental illnesses.Nobody can know the outcome and nature doesn't work in absolutes. Maybe the cat died, maybe the owl died, maybe both died and maybe none died. But people will call you a toxoplasmosis ladden cat fucker unless you say the cat 100% got destroyed. They'll explain their point as if it was video game stats or some shit. They just want to assume the cat died, and if it was any two other animals in that situation the discussion would be far less retarded because people on this board are especially obsessed with cats and birds.In my opinion, there's a high chance that both of them got out of it alive just because that's how most hunts turn out. Cats will walk off that kind if dire injuries pretty often and can sustain high falls, and owls would rather pick lighter preys because it's easier to deal with than something heavy that has claws. All other outcomes cited above are also possible.
>>4893189I've gotta agree here, honestly. I'd say the cat probably got wriggly enough and scratchy/bitey enough to not be worth the trouble anymore and got dropped and left behind. I don't think an owl is keen on having an actual fight with what it wants to eat and the cat isn't likely to try its chances if it can make a break for it. I haven't arm wrestled an owl but I've sure as hell wrestled a cat into a box that didn't want to go into that fucking box and I'll tell you if I had vice grips for arms I wouldn't have wanted to hold that thing a second longer than necessary.
>>4893182>>4893146>>4893189This is what birds of prey do if a cat is still alive after the initial attack:>>4893130
>>4893130>person watches animal suffer for 3 minutes while not helping it>"This'll be great on tiktok, I'll get a ton of likes!"
>>4893241Why would you help the worthless cat escape from the hawk? The cat is that hawk's dinner.
>>4893250As I said in my post, you're not here for actual discussion and if the OP's pic were two different animals you probably wouldn't be on this thread, you just want to assume the cat got destroyed because you hate cats. You also use an unrelated video as a generalization that any raptors will actively eat cats, which can happen but isn't general behavior, as if it was some video-game matchup where the outcome is always the same.Anyways, you're here because you're obsessed, either with cats, with birds or with both. Go watch gore on your own for what I care but you guys are the reason this board is turning up to shit, can't have an honest discussion because every cat-obsessed or bird-obsessed fuck uses the most disingenuous points of discussion
>>4893261>You also use an unrelated video as a generalization that any raptors will actively eat catsThen how come all the pictures/vids show only that outcome? Where are all the pictures/vids of cats killing large birds of prey?
>>4893262Way to miss the point. Where did I say that cats hunted large birds of prey? Your point is literally worthless against what I said. There are pics of cats getting fucked by birds of prey, and OP's might have ended up the same, but these are a droplet compared to the pics of birds of preys eating rodents and small reptiles. Why? Because that's generally their preys and cats aren't their general preys. You'd see a metric ton of pics of it happening if it was a common occurrence, with all the stray cats everywhere, and the tendency for people to film them, or even put cameras on them. When predators meet, they tend to avoid each other because it's a huge pain to risk the fight, and if one goes for the attack, the other will likely fuck off as soon as possible rather than fight to the death, and there are videos of this happening, with both small dogs and cats getting attacked and escaping, and if you had any fucking interest in falconry, you'd know that wounds inflicted by cats will either net you a huge vet bill or a dead bird if not properly treated. Cats aren't usually on the menu because it's more likely to defend itself and injure you than a fucking squirrel. It's on the menu for birds of prey that are in a whole different weight and size category, like some of the larger Eagles in America that DO actively hunt cats, but aren't mentioned in the thread.
>>4893104This one?
Cats can kill bears according to catfags
>>4893290That's it. Makes me sick every time. Love it. Thanks.
Did someone say litterbox?
Mmmm I love the smell of clumping litterSo fresh
>>4893417lol the glade plugin 4 inches away from the shitbox really sells it
>People "infected" by Toxoplasma gondii are kinder and more progressive than those without. Still, there are health risks. Let's analyze it rationally.>The risk of Toxoplasma gondii impacting your life is relatively low. It is, however, something that should be considered seriously, both in terms of potential benefits and risks. Ultimately, living with Toxoplasma is a choice.>Read, learn, listen, and make up your own mindhttps://wauf.com/dont-worry-toxoplasma-gondii-a-rational-analysis/
>>4893415I'm more offended by those grotesquely orange walls than the litter box being in the kitchen. If anything, the cat toilet improves things in this specific case.
>>4893417>Xbox owner>loves shitIt adds up
>>4893278Doesn't matter. That hawk made the cat its bitch.
>>4893584*it's
>>4889834>i work at a grocery storenoone cares what you have to say, so bag my groceries and put them in my trunk, miguel.
>>4893615Beautiful ESL post
The fact is cats lead more fulfilling lives than most of us.
>>4893615Thanks for demonstrating how retarded catfags are
I love my two cats but cat owners are the absolute fucking worst. They excuse their animal's shit behaviour all the time and let them rule their house with no rules of hierarchy even attempted to be established because these morons genuinely believe that you cannot train a cat. They also think it is cruel to leave your cat inside and that it's much better for them to be outside breaking the necks of rare birds and gutting squirrels and possums instead of playing with them for fifteen minutes twice per day. I fucking hate the majority of cat owners. Cat owners on /an/ are alright but god almighty I hate seeing normie cat owners.
>>4893727This is exactly how I feel, but toward dog owners. Three signs at the city park entrance saying all dogs much be on leashes. So these pricks put the leash on, then let it drop and drag behind the dog as it runs wild terrorizing everyone. No respect for other people or basic rules and civility.
>>4893632Ill touch my dirty wet asshole and then touch my shitty fingers all over your food and car
>>4893901sounds about right, brownoid
>>4893972You eat brownoid and cat shit lol
>>4893888Do cat owners not understand statistics and probability?
>>4893888
>>4894690Cat pics are so boring and passé
>so I work in a grocery store for $10.65 an hour and I cast judgement on others lol. I could hit on any on of the coworkers you are spineless to ask out and fuck them that day. But I wouldn't, because they work at a grocery store.
>>4895476>i can do that i just dont want tocool story
>>4893130>>4893241Nature, red in tooth and claw, faggot
>>4893130lel fuck cats
>>4893130All cat lovers should watch this vid
>>4889834>Work at grocery store>Semi-retiredSo you're a deluded boomer on social security that's making ends meet working as a stockerlmaooo who cares what you have to sayUnless it's which aisle the oatmeal is on, wagie.
>>4896733Still better than a stinky cat person
>>4892495Wow so THAT'S how they get them
>>4892781How strong?
>>4892530trans love cats so it makes sense
>>4893778Dog owner here. I only do this if i see muslims because christ deniers can go fuck themselves especially if they bought that dogs scare angels and are dirty nonsense. If the park doesnt have hijabs i keep a hand on the leash.
Cats are for obnoxious spergs, dogs are for obnoxious normalfags. Both are equally as bad for their own reasons, but there are a lot of mentally ill spergs on here so catfags get more attention.
>>4897904That's why the only pets I have are house plants.
>>4897904Birds are the true patrician pet
>>4893261Catfags celebrate dog and bird deaths all the time
>>4898734Cause there mental toxofags
>>4889843>Actual reddit immigrantLelCat website. You may now proceed to cope
>>4898734cats killing bird threads are made by the cat hating zoosadist shitbags to bait people into posting cat gore
>>4889843Why would the owl need to fight with the cat, it just needs to hold on long enough to get the cat up high. Let the cat fight gravity
>>4889838It's unlikely the owl ended up killing the cat, I have seen many videos of raptors making a similar hold on foxes and ending up having to drop them, because of the weight and foxes trashing around.
>>4898734>and other hallucinations from the minds of dog fuckersnice samefag replying to yourself 2 minutes later btw
>>4899474That cat is deadhttps://youtu.be/mj_AV4pqa_w?feature=shared
>>4899527still unlikely if this dog is alivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3NkJN1ircQ
>>4899537https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Qz3zNbHE5v8allegedly this dog lived too
>>4899537>>4899540Dogs are more formidable than cats
>>4900478Well yeah, dogs are a domesticated apex predator and cats are a domesticated mesopredator that is normally actively hunted and eaten by jackals, birds, mustelids, and larger cats. Domestication nerfs survival skills but if there’s already barely anything there (cats)…
>>4900485What drug are you on, small dogs like in the links are routinely killed by coyotes too
>>4900491And a sufficiently small cat could be hunted by rats!
>>4900492here's your formidable apex predator
>>4900495>NOOO WHAT ABOUT THE CHIHUAHUASYou have indirectly proven that just because small cats are related to big cats does not mean larger animals won’t eat them lolCatredditors are so low iq they btfo themselves even when they seetheWelcome to nature bitch. If its four legged and fleeing or feathered and flying and fits in a mouth, it is food. Unlike you, redditor, i dont worship a specific animal. I just point out the natural order. And cats arent very high in it, so stop letting them roam around and complaining when they dont come back.
Outdoor cat fags will believe any lie to avoid confronting the fact that they predispose their pets to early deaths and horrific injury just so they dont have to interact with their cat or scoop the litterbox as often
>>4900504Can you blame them? I cant imagine living with a litterbox inside my home
>>4900499Na I think an owl can kill a kitten but the 7-10 year old single pic of that owl lifting up the large cat doesnt prove it managed to kill it.
>>4900726Cats are no match for big bird
>>4900504I just like seeing birds die.
>>4901400I like feeding outdoors cats to my German shepherd.
>>4901400Catfags are psychopaths
>>4900726>>4900485>cats are a domesticated mesopredator that is normally actively hunted and eaten by jackals, birds, mustelids, and larger cats.Catfags will deny this...
>>4903355no, a lot of predator preys on cats and especialy kittens, i am only denying that there is proof that the owl managed to kill the cat in the picture, as I've seen tons of raptors snatching up small predators and having to let them go because small predators fight back fierclya bite or scratch from a cat can cost a bird it's life
>>4903367Owls are too sturdy to be hurt by a housecat scratch
>>4903367dropping them from the sky is letting them go, but theyre doing it to kill them
>>4904574yeah, that kitty is dead
>>4893130Soarvivo of the fittest mofugga!! Sheeeeit!!!
>>4893130beautiful video
>>4893130hahaha based hawk