why do boomers hate nature so fucking much?>boomer dad owns a few acres of forest behind the house>used to explore it with my brother and dogs when we were kids>find cool sticks, see frogs in the pond hidden inside>2 years ago>dad has 80% of the entire thing chopped down>bulldozes all of the topsoil into the pond>didn't even have a plan for the clearing>just saw trees and decided they should die>openly regrets doing it now>as of today it is still desolate because he mows down any pioneer species>boomer neighbour has a massive pine out front>return one day to see it debranched>cut it down the next day>he was worried it would fall over>the tree was a healthy old growth older than him>aka last fucking tree that would ever fall down in a storm>boomer fuck owns property on opposite side of road from river>decides to illegally log all of the trees against the riverbank>beach is now littered with tree debris and other garbage hes too lazy to dispose of>sun's reflection off the water now blinds drivers during morning/evening rush>all just to boost his property valueall the beauty of where i grew up is being slowly destroyed by these dying pricks and anyone i vent to thinks im stupid for caring.
>>4898382I don't think it's hate, I think it's more not giving a fuck. To them, they have already experienced the nature and they have no use for it anymore because they will die soon. So it is easier to destroy any chance of sudden fallen trees, or kill them before they die naturally and harbor termites, or to have a better view of the waterfront, etc. Boomers are well known for only giving a fuck about themselves. Boomers especially have a fucking huge fear of trees falling.Bought a house with a few acres and the old boomer owners had a fuck huge burn pit that scorched a dozen trees by it. They also brought a ton of rocks in to lay at the bases of the remaining trees, which if you don't know is fucking awful for them. They tied metal fence like wire to one tree, have metal braided wire around another, both of these choking off trees. Most of these trees are pines or hickory.They wrapped a metal chain holding a swing around a major limb of a large magnolia which effectively killed it - our neighbors were actually mad at us for taking the swing down because their kids played on it. Literally a month later the branch the swing was on fell. Fucking retards.
>>4898382Who cares? There are planets with the kind of life your mind couldn't possibly comprehend millions of light years away from any human and you are winning about a couple trees
based boomers the true agents of chaos.best you can hope for is he gives you the property and you can restore it and hope you dont go down the same path he did
>>4898397he is and thats what im doing. in fact im already in the process of restoring the pond. im planning to make it into lightly treed shrubland full of edible native plants. that way it can provide tonnes of food for wildlife as it recovers.
My father is obsessed with constantly spraying carcinogenic bug or weed killer all over the place and simply ignores me when I offer to do it instead with non-toxic alternatives (diatomaceous earth and vinegar weed killer)He also trims trees way too often and at the wrong times of year even when I directly inform him of thisI hate him so much
>>4898405Stop visiting him (for your own health). Then when he gets cancer, just keep sending him memes of all the sprays he used with the carcinogens highlighted.>>4898382They're retarded. They don't have an agenda, they're just dumb and have as much foresight as the average teenager they complain so much about. You also have managed to surround yourself with idiots. Work on changing that first.
My dad and stepmom are fucking retarded about this too.>Before my parents divorce, live in rural place>Dad and new wife decide to move to rural place again because the city sucks>Move to nice house with lots of nature>destroy half of it for stupid excessive projects and because they hate natureThey also constantly rake the pine needles for literally no goddamn reason
>>4898382Last vestiges of power and lunacy before they rot and die.
>dad sees ant>"KILL IT! SMASH IT! CRUSH IT!">explain that killing the ant won't do anything, you need to kill the colony>buy ant traps, infestation successfully eradicated>dad now wants to set up those traps outside>need to explain that outside is where the ants belong
>>4898452Think I can speak for this thread when I say go back to your home board.https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/filename/%22jews%20and%20nature%22/image/ZTKp8xODyRM9XKVI5fUU1Q/
>>4898382Bible told them man has the right to dominate nature so they rape it as they see fit
>>4898471That's the problem with Jewish religions like Christianity and Islam, they're told the world and everything in it was made special just for them so they don't respect anything. At least most polytheistic or animism-based religions avoid the usual monotheistic contradictions by having apathetic dieties/spirits creating for their own sake.
>>4898450I had a coworker like that who killed spiders on sight. After enough attempts I convinced her not to, and later she openly bragged how she saves them now and puts them outside.
>>4898471>ban evading
anglosphere threadnever seen this issue outside of deranged people elsewhereyou're all just fucked in the head, because of jews or environmental factors
>>4898382Ireland and Malta have major nature hating issues. They pave everything and have little nature. It upsets me to no end.
>>4898532we get it, your old world shithole is already clear cut or covered in manure and plastic bags
>>4898532>anglospherego look up how many acres/day they're burning down in brazil
>>4898382>that first storyI feel you OP.>have pond in the garden >pond is always full of tadpoles and frogs>come home from school one day to find that dad has pumped out the whole pond and left all the tadpoles to die on the lawn >start crying and trying to save as many as I can while demanding to know why he did it>he says it was because the frogs were "attracting snakes to our house" (turns out he saw a harmless rat snake once). He also destroyed a bunch of trees to build an ugly ass deck nobody uses and cut down the biggest tree because of the "it might fall" meme.
>>4898566Now do Russia
I bought a house a few years ago and planted tons of fruit trees and flowers. Ive had dozens of anonymous complaints left on my house to the city code enforcers for having too many plants (not in violation of any ordanances) and the cops luckily dont give a fuck. Boomers hate anything that isnt a plain jane grass lawn. Im planting more to piss them off
>>4898382>>dad has 80% of the entire thing chopped down>>bulldozes all of the topsoil into the pond>>didn't even have a plan for the clearing>>just saw trees and decided they should die>>openly regrets doing it now>>as of today it is still desolate because he mows down any pioneer speciesSounds like dementia might be starting to brew in your dad's mind, keep an eye on him, look for other sudden, inexplicable changes in behavior.>>boomer fuck owns property on opposite side of road from river>>decides to illegally log all of the trees against the riverbankYou haven't reported him to the authorities why?
>>4898409>Then when he gets cancer, just keep sending him memes of all the sprays he used with the carcinogens highlighted.kek absolutely do this
>>4898409>when he(his dad) gets cancerthe irony is anon will get cancer and his dad will do just fine
>>4898595>You haven't reported him to the authorities why?Very white post.
>>4898591>Ive had dozens of anonymous complaints left on my house to the city code enforcers for having too many plantsLol, I don't want to shit on boomers too much because they're an easy target, but come on. That seems like a deeply ingrained hatred for nature.Your >>4898391 story too, even if you say it's not hate, that almost seems like a deliberate way to fuck with trees as much as it is in their capacity, which doesn't have to be good or bad, it's just very noticeable
>>4898382I can feel you op. Maybe it's just some kind of cope because they're the first ones to endorse a dog eat dog society but most of them are actually beta losers, though literally every one act like some kind of chadthundercock alpha, even when they're dumb, fat, poor and ugly by any standard. So they must vent their inner frustration to something.
>>4898567>he says it was because the frogs were "attracting snakes to our house" (turns out he saw a harmless rat snake once).This is some anti-tiger rock shit wth
>>4898678you have to realize how boomers grew up. they were smack dab in the middle of that typical image of an american family in the suburbs with white picket fence and neatly-trimmed radioactive green lawn. that is the ultimate status symbol to them. maybe the more intrepid dads would take the family vacationing in actual nature every now and then but i'm willing to bet many did not and only knew a suburban hellscape all their childhood. weird things like trees and bushes and flowerbeds and gardens where the lawn should be cause them to act out with petty contempt and other passive-aggressive woman behaviors but deep down it frightens them. it's unnatural to them.
>>4898394I can only care about trees on those planets?
>shoves dog and cat into tiny apartment 23.5 hours a daywhy do xillenials hate nature so much?
The big, old cypress tree that was half the reason I bought my house started dying so I had to cut it down. I'm so sad bros. My old neighbors hated me for it, but when I showed them the holes in the stump from where it was rotting from the inside they mourned with me. If I had gotten the property a few years before maybe I could have saved it.
>>4898803This is very much the reality of the situation. It’s why they also view the use of poison as a first and not last resort. They’ve got this hyper-fixation on having as much of uniform, perfectly extruded, homogeneous, factory finish aesthetic because to them that is a symbol of success. Otherwise you’re a hippie or a hillbilly and definitely poor. Poors can’t afford to chemically castrate a whole field. The worst shock I ever had in this respect was this ‘exterminator’ vendor coming to my house trying to sell shit. One of the things he tried to convince me to do was pay him to poison the spiders on the outside of my house. This was considered a marketable service by him. It’s a really soul killing, rotten ideology.
>>4898905Cats arent allowed outdoors. Dogs only have to be outside max 3 hours a day.
This thread is actually making me hate my dad less, because it's helping me realize/remember that he was just born into a generation of obligate retards and that it was never reasonable to hold him to human standards.
>>4898474Islam is not like Christianity, it tells you nature is a responsibility you will be asked about.
>>4899258>One of the things he tried to convince me to do was pay him to poison the spiders on the outside of my house. This was considered a marketable service by him.I don't know whose fault it is, but spiders really need someone to redo their branding, people will stomp or poison them without a thought to their usefulness or if they even pose any danger at all
>>4899456>I don't know whose fault it isfollow the moneyspoonfeed: chemical companies making insecticides
>it's another episode of "evil most often manifests as uncaringness and ignorance of one's own actions"/x/ was right againI just think this thing has to do some kind of psychological issues though. You can dominate a completely passive landscape and find reasons to have it obliterated so you can fulfill your need for control and a semblance of power. It's useless, destructive, by no means necessary, but it requires less work than actively thinking about creative and constructive ideas. My dad did the same in his garden. The beautiful old ass tree at the end of it got wrecked because much branches too big. Silly geese. The lot of em.
Most people won't think twice and realize they are the product of a generation, and have ideas of what is valuable or not that could be really destructive. In this regard it is important to educate people on the impermanent nature of what they instinctively consider as fruitful. To the industry corporate footsoldier, hyper normality fixated on a few key artificial artifacts equals not only success but also tokens representative of a good life. In the desolation of nature, in the celebration of unsustainable artificiality they will rejoice and find joy. The rich white hippie family will have other such tokens and artifacts. And so will the butchery work who lives paycheck to paycheck. It's not about us. It never was about us. We are transitory, and we matter only as much as we can preserve what is objectively (meaning not personally) fruitful, and as much as we fight against what is objectively destructive. Nature doesn't descriminate, and we should be thankful for this. Otherwise, we would have been wiped a long time ago for the horrendous little pest we can be.
>>4899459This is unfortunately not tinfoil hat bullshit. It is 100% true. Chemical companies lobbied like motherfuckers for the better part of the last century to both change government regulation and public image in their favor in order to sell more garbage that they knew/know was not good for people or the environment. Here are some of the more egregious examples:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtcXXbuR244 Convincing natives in Kenya DDT is safe to eat.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2EtxYxEKww Spraying DDT directly onto children to prove it's safe.Now they do the same shit today with the latest non-banned substances.
>>4898402Paw paw is a delicious keystone fruit tree native all across America. It grows well along water sources
>>4898382Boomers are a huge problem. We should round them up into retirement homes so we can limit the damage they do.
>>4898394And on those planets there are boomer aliens busy cutting down those alien plants to make more room for their lawn
Man, if this is just a boomer/Gen x hate thread then I've got a few>Move to stepdad's property to manage it>Lawn is in rough shape>"Just water it">Lay out the steps to actually fix it>Need the truck to haul manure and other supplies from 100 miles away>Never get the truck>"Why haven't you been watering the lawn?">I have>It needs several times more water than a healthy lawn just to look like shit>Explain everything >Still don't get the truck >Repeat several times>Still don't have the truck>Find termites on the property dangerously close to the buildings >Tell him we need to order nematodes to kill the colony >"Fuck that, poison them">Comes over with several bottles of bullshit poisons that "work on termites">Read instructions >It doesn't kill termite colonies>Explain it to him>"Can't we just pour it down a hole?">He didn't understand a single thing I told him>He wants to Airbnb several decrepit trailers on the property >Tell him that's not going to happen >"Snowboarders won't complain about it. Just fix them on the cheap">There's no way to do that >Ironically he's obsessed with his rating on Airbnb >He thinks I just don't want to do it because I'm lazy>Several people explain to him that these trailers cannot be fixed>The trailers are still here because he still wants to try to fix themAnd a bit of irony to leave you with >Stepdad was in "successful" punk band funded by his rich dad>Convinced he's liberal >Only watches fox news and espouses conservative views constantly >Absolutely cannot handle being told he's conservative>Votes for Trump Absolutely insane. His boomer parents really did a number on him.
>>4899683Oh me too>have grown up with cats my whole life>every cat was an outdoor cat>every cat, bar one iirc, died or went missing as a result of being an outdoor cat>grow up>realise things about the world around me>beg my parents to make any future cats they get indoor cats>they refuse>cats die before their timeThe cycle will repeat.
>>4898382They're such shits about it. I had something similar to your second story. >Hurricane Sandy hit >Trees fall all over town>GIANT oak in my backyard blocks tree from crashing into my parents' bedroom>love that tree>I move away>parents sell house to Old teacher>cuts every fucking tree down in the yard>dies a year later>>4898394>winningread a book>>4898566Retards claim the US isn't doing enough to save the planet but these third world countries are the real problem. Can we just remove India?
>>4898660The reason why white societies are nice places to live and brown societies have streets littered with mounds of garbage and human feces is because whites hold their neighbors accountable rather than ignoring antisocial behavior because it's "not their problem".
>>4899712If only they’d stop holding me accountable for landscaping fashions invented by herbicide and seed companies. If another white woman says shit to me about how LE HOMES IN SOCIETY HAVE LE GRASS because she can see my vegetable garde i am drawing my fat black cock on her perpetually absent husbands favorite putting green with a kettle of salt water.
>>4899712and the reason why american rural areas are so awful is because if you do that they poison your pets and torch your car. with the sheriffs/deputies help (he is their cousinfather).
>>4899725Based
Found him chilling out underneath the mail box, looked up what spider he was and learned that they were harmless, so I left him alone. When my 70+ year old mom came home she spazzed out and ripped him down like an animal. Still really bothers me to think back on. Humans can live in squalor and poverty for decades and never even care, but harmless stuff like this pushes them over? I really don't get it. Also had a little dogwood outside our house that she mangled for no reason. Was one of the few nice things in this rust bucket ghetto.
>>4899712>The reason why white societies are nice places to live and brown societies have streets littered with mounds of garbage and human feces is because whites hold their neighbors accountable rather than ignoring antisocial behavior because it's "not their problem".or maybe because we already went through our stage where we had garbage everywhere and realized maybe that's not the best thing for society
>>4899712>because it's "not their problem".Lmao I hope you're not American
>>4900414This spider looks cool, what is it?
>>4898382nature is cruel and sucks. i don't understand people who worship it
>boomer needlessly strips land of all flora larger than grass>people get annoyed at said actions>"lmao why do u worship nature"just go back to your containment board, you're not wanted here
those people very likely won't give a single fuck about dying bums or starving kids, yet they virtue signal by pretending that they care about some trees or animals
>>4900428NTA, its a yellow garden spider. They get fairly large for a North American spider but they're harmless.>>4900414 I chalk it up to an evolutionary fear like with snakes that served some function in the past, but now it just seems kind of strange but its so widespread that nothing can really be done about it.
>>4900434Why are you on this board?
>>4898382My boomer mom makes fun of the perfect lawn people and would beat my ass if I ever removed native milkweed from my yard because she likes butterflies. She hasn’t escaped the generational lead poisoning though, the other day she asked me in a scolding tone why I never give my pet snake vegetables.
>>4900434because its where we get food from you fucking drooling mong
>>4900565>would beat my ass if I ever removed native milkweed from my yard because she likes butterflieskiss your mom for me
>>4898391>>4898382I think some of this stuff is generational, but most of it is age, which is easy to conflate with generational issues. Botched maintenance, suddenly deciding to clearcut land, ESPECIALLY the 'it might fall down' meme. Have you ever seen an elderly relative suddenly become afraid of flying?