Indigo Editionprevious: >>4881506This thread is dedicated to all animals of the Reptilia and Amphibia classes. Topics include, but are not limited to: geckos, snakes of all kinds, frogs, salamanders, newts, turtles, tortoises, and much more. Before asking a question, do a search on the internet to see if it has been answeredClassifieds for finding breeders and products:>morphmarket.com>kingsnake.com>faunaclassifieds.com>caudata.orgMost forums will have a "for sale" section on them, so look for that, especially if you have a specific herp you want. Craigslist can also be a good source for cheap aquariums, and make sure to check for any reptile expos that occur in your area.When asking a question, make sure to include these details:>Type and size of animal>Enclosure dimensions>Humidity and temperature>Type of substrate>The decor you use>How often you feed>The type of food you use>If your animal is wild caught or captive bred>How often you handle>Who you bought the animal fromOther Helpful Resourceswww.blackjungleterrariumsupply.comwww.joshsfrogs.comhttp://www.reptilesmagazine.comhttp://www.anapsid.orghttp://www.hylid.clara.co.uk/caer.htmhttps://www.americanmadeexotics.com/breeding-ball-pythons-article.html
Looking for any use for eggshells because jesus christ an egg a day is a lot of shellwould mealworms benefit from powdered eggshell in their oatmeal? would dubias use a dish of them for calcium? I know isopods need a lot of calcium
>>4899948>eggshellsI toss mine around the perimeter of the garden, returns some micronutrients and dissuades slugs and snails.
>>4899948Most feeders can have the shells tossed in with them and will eventually remove them, if that meets the capacity requirements you have depends on how many feeders.Just chuck em in local water, there's always something that could benefit from a bit of calcium there. Or bury them in your lawn somewhere.
Someone spot me a grand
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I am once again invertposting in herpWhat would make a good predator for a large community insect tank? Lots of bugs running around all the time. As far as I know, tarantulas and scorpions barely eat anything in addition to being autistic and shy, so they'd be bad. Vertebrates like a frog or leo-sized lizard would stress if they didn't have an opportunity to get away and be by themselves, along with possibly getting nipped at by the bigger omnivorous bugs, I don't think I can get any particularly large centipedes where I live, ants would conquer it and turn it into an ant tank, would anything be feasible for this role?
>>4900218What do you have in there that you want to keep in check? Most of the voracious predators are specialized, i.e. Ladybugs or Bigeyed BugsVinegaroons are the most frequently feeding opportunistic generalist predators I know of.Also any pics?
>>4900222>What do you have in there that you want to keep in check?feeders and clean up crew, mostly. Millipedes, isopods, super/mealworm beetles, dubia roaches, stuff that will all kinda breed themselves into infinity if space permits. I'd love to have something more exotic but I have one of those 'no insects allowed' governments, my dubias are illegal.>any pics?It's mostly in planning phases right now as I build stable populations and find a spot to put the big tank, right now I just have a little test 10 gallon on my desk to start developing a nutrient biome and let isopods/millipedes start breeding
>>4900230Come to think of it crickets might do ok in it considering they'll last weeks in my gecko tank vs one in a bin
Banan
>>4900242crocodile sock
Welp /an/ i think we are dealing whit a particulary large female here. Current stats are: >age: 14 months>lenght: 1.16m>weight: 1.31kgIm guessing about 1,8-2m full grown and weight around 3.5-4kg. If it gets 2m+ ill breed it whit some particularly large male in order to see if we can get em even bigger
I hate being more knowledgeable than most veterinarians. Went to one yesterday who referred to my New Cal as a "house gecko." How the hell do you get certified as a reptile specialist without even knowing the most common animals in the trade?
>>4900324Was he indian
>Brown darkling spotted months after buying starters for a culture>It's much bigger and more robust than the pet store beetles
>>4900242I get it, you gotta protect your local species, but man, I hate how many cool lizards are not available outside of Australia because of it. Would love to get these.
>>4900557I'll trade you some Shinglebacks, a Bearded Dragon and a baby Goanna for a Iguana
>>4900583Shinglebacks AND monitors for iguanas?Deal of the century, I'll even throw in some geckos.
>>4900738Problem is you have to fly here and catch them yourself first, they can sprint like you wouldn't believe.
>>4900792when I was a child I was horrified of witches because the idea of being turned into a frog gave me existential dreadNow I just want to have sex with them
>>4900744fascinating that you can tell what our bodies are built to hunt by the fact that theoretically, we can outpace the lizard over distance since they can't run and breathe at the same time, but in practice, it's going to find a rock crevice or hole in the ground long before it tires out and become impossible to get by hand(without losing an arm) wheras big game doesn't have this strategy
FROG MONOLITA!We thank you, oh Frogolith, for revealing the cunning plans of your enemies to us.May your light shine down on the souls of the brave soldiers who gave their lives in service to your will.Onward warriors of the Frogolith, avenge your fallen brothers, blessed as they are in their eternal union with the Frogolith.Bring death to those who spurned the holy power of the Frogolith.
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>>4900932The Frogolith has revealed itself to believers in the Amphibian Exclusion Zone.Trust no-one but the Frogolith and your brothers!
>>4900324jack of all trades master of none, most vets don't give a shit to learn more than basic anatomy about exotic pets even if they treat them
Is having the edges of a tank hang over a desk/shelf that's slightly too small going to eventually make it crack under its own weight in a few months or is that not how anything works and Im being paranoid and as long as it's not falling over it'll be fine?I bought a giant tank because it was cheap and I have absolutely nowhere to put it, it's been sitting on my floor for months.
>>4900993when you do that you're basically hanging the walls and roof of the tank in the air, only really being held together/up by the silicone. I wouldnt recommend it.A half-inch plywoood board is stupid cheap (like 20-30 bucks), can usually be cut to size at the store, and would end your worries entirely by basically being a secondary desk/shelf top.
>>4901015What difference does a half inch of plywood make if there's nothing under it
Huh, today I saw my turtle scratching her head like a dog, is that normal? I didn't even know they could raise their legs that much.
>>4900875Just chuck a stick at it
>>4901035Still spreads the weight across the plywood, rather than just the tank itself. It's a table top, basically.
>>4901076Yeah, that's what people figured outYou can shove a sharp stick into the hole and then the only problem is dragging it out afterward
>>4901559>hmm, what is this thing in my field?>I dont know, but fuck it, get rammed idiotTurtles are such assholes, and we all love them for it.
>>4901594Imagine big turtles on skateboards not little ones on fingerboards. There would be blood on the streets.
Isopods that don't hide?
>>4901617Zebras are pretty brave in my experience.
>>4901594maybe the camera was black
>mealworms are a desert darkling species that want low humidity>superworms are a tropical darkling species that want high humidityinconvenient
>>4900347Gay, ginger, white.
>>4901897Comfy boy. I bet he is pondering the mysteries of the universe.
>>4901897>0 way to get up quickly>belly on full display>under the heat>fatthat is one happy ackie
Would a population of earthworms in bioactive substrate overpopulate and just turn the ground into worms if nothing burrows down to eat them?
>>4902058Pretty much. Worms apparently also smell terrible
>>4902124Disappointing but it works out because worms just seem to inexplicably die on me when I put them in glass boxes of dirt
Bros carrying 40lbs of fruit across a store is very different from hauling 40lbs of sand 40 minutes distance...
Top opening lids feel like such an awkward relic of the past, is there a single genuine positive to them beyond manufacturing cost?
>>4902450What exactly does sand do for substrate? Why does everyone put 20-30% sand in their mixes?
>>4902496helps it drain. How well something drains is a function of particle size, sand provides a particle that won't degrade into finer material and stop draining.
>>4902496It looks really really nice when you mix it woth other stuff
Springtails should be a cent each at maximum where do people get off charging 8 dollars for them
>>4902739Defiant forest has ~300 springtails for about 6 bucks, with volume discounts. Petsmart was eelling something like 30 for 10 bucks, and the local mom and pop shop was selling a culture of "i dont know but you can see some crawling around in there" for fucking THIRTY.
>>4902757Truly we never left the BiOACTIIIIVEEE!!!!!!11!!!!11 phase of the 2010s
What kind of snake is this?
>>4902842If you look closely, it's actually fairly easy to identify that it is, in fact, two snakes.
>>4902860Anon is correct, they're only dangerous if you're diabetic.
>>4902842It's just one. I didn't want to waste a post.Gulf Coast Texas
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>>4902757>>4902739>what is shipping
>>4902934Who said anything about shippingLocal pet stores and craigslist ads are selling springtails for 8 dollars
Hey anons, any tips for not scaring lizards? I see fence lizards and skinks all the time on my delivery route, but they always take off at light speed before I can snap a photo. The anoles at least seem to be a little braver and give me the glare.
>>4903021Think of them as tiny cats with scales
>Buy black earth>need one more bag, no problem, there were 2 more at the store>few days later>it's sold out at every single store and not coming back until next year>Sitting here with a tank with half as much substrate as it needs mocking me
>>4903364Surely you can slap together a substitute
She found a nice hiding place in my sweater after a bath hopefully she doesn't poop...
>>4900875>we can outpace the lizard over distance since they can't run and breathe at the same timeFunny you should say this in response to a post featuring a monitor, the lone exception to this rule
>>4903672Nerd
I want a sulcata. How big of a pen would he need for his life? Like 6x6?
I wish I was a snake because then women would be bigger than me
>>4903684Hah no. For life, absolute bare minimum is probably 12x12 or 15x15. If you want it to be anything except a muddy hellscape, 40x40 is probably the minimum. Be sure to bury the walls 3+ ft deep because it'll dig out otherwise. And it'll break through wood, eventually.Sulcata really don't make good pets. But if you're dead set, that's the minimum needed to keep an angry living bulldozer. Have fun.
>>4903722Ok i can make room for him but burying the walls that deep will be rough.
>>4903723It doesn't have to be a solid wall at least, steel posts going down several feet, spaced 6" apart, will work unless you have an absolute baby.But yeah, they're burrowers. For most tortoises a full "tortoise table" is best, but trying to make one of those for a sulcata would cost tens of thousands of dollars.
>>4903724Oh fug that yeah. I had a Mojave desert we had grandfathered and he would bury about 3 feet. I saw guys selling sulcatas at the show the other day and people buying them don't even know the work that is coming. Reptiles are relentless and these are powerful reptiles.
>>4903725If you really want a tortoise, Greek or Russian are the easiest to manage, with Mojave also being fairly easy.People who buy baby sulcatas without knowing what they're doing are retarded, and dooming a creature that lives as long as they do to a short, stressful life. Most tortoises don't live long past their original owner anyways, but picking the largest and longest lived one available? You get what you fuckin deserve.Boy do I love torts tho. Little retarded bulldozers.
>>4903684Think “swimming pool half filled with excavator clay and sand mix”
>>4903726>>4903727I've kept little guys. I want to graduate.
What could I plant in a tank that beetles will eat that doesn't need a ton of full sun like strawberries? I have easy access to a lot of herbs but bugs hate herbs
>>4903726Are turtles really retarded? It might be my brain saying "old man = wise" but they've always seemed perceptive and trainable, they even play with balls, but there's probably a debate to be had whether its play or just their natural world ender instinct telling them to ram everything
>>4903836Probably not retarded, just limited motivations and endless stubbornness. They'll spend weeks pushing against the same crack in the fence if there's something they think they want on the other side.Also they seem to have an urge to destroy everything in reach. You can't keep anything but the toughest plants with them, no matter the size - one day they'll come across the plant and decide its passivity is no match for their violence.
>>4903881Is this only with large turtles or turtles destined to become large? I never see tiny turtles with lusts for destruction
>>4903885It's all turtles and torts, but the small ones have less capacity for it due to square-cube law. Try putting literally anything with a mud turtle or Russian turtle and you'll pretty quickly find it damaged.
>Before pupating, mealworms will become sluggish and stop eating as much, before curling up and not moving, but not curling into a nice distinctive C like a superwormIt looks identical to the process of actively dyingWhy do they stop eating before metamorphosis? Isn't that when they should be eating the MOST? They look visibly thinner and more unhealthy than they used to
>>4904001like with brumation, it's probably to avoid having undigested food rotting in the chrysalis.
Soon to be newbie keeper curious about habitat size. I got a free 50 gallon terrarium (36"x18x18). I'd love to start out with a leopard gecko or a fire skink. But I'm a little nervous about those being around the minimum enclosure sizes. Does anyone have experience with whether that size feels truly like its enough? Would like my guy to live like a king.I was thinking I might just try and get a young one and then upgrade it after about a year once I know my specific lizard's needs better. Is that probably fine or should I really just consider something smaller?
>>4904060Look up the size of your reptile. It should be able to turn easily in your tank width wise and be long enough for it to regulate it's own temperature.
>>4904052imagine being reborn as half cucumber because there was a pickle inside the chamber where your dna broke apart and rewrote itself[spoiler]i turned myself into a pickle, anon[/spoiler]
>>4904060>would like my guy to live like a kingtake the length of the lizard and think how many seconds a king would be able to walk forward without having to turn around
>>4904065Okay maybe an imprisoned king because that feels like a hard standard to meet.
>>4904067>I want to give my pet the best life I can>Woah woah hey now, MOVING? that's a little luxurious, don't you think?
>>4904144I mean, when I think of a king I think of a castle where the can probably walk several minutes without having to turn around. Do you have suggestions on a set up that would allow that?
>>4904154This chick made a naturalistic enclosure for a leopard gecko in a 6x2x2 grow tent.https://youtu.be/SP9s9glIpJM
>>4904172why the fuck have I ever dealt with glass anything when this was a thing this whole time
>>4904060That's plenty big for a juvenile leo if you remove "live like a king" from the equation and replace it with "live in a studio apartment". Not what I would recommend for you to buy and I would upgrade it asap, but if you already own the enclosure and you're set on getting your first reptile then you may as well use it. It could live its whole life in there and be fine but anyone in their right mind would laugh at you for it. Way too small for a skink.
>>4904361And by "could live its whole life" I mean "it won't die", not "you don't need to upgrade your enclosure"
Leopard geckos are big animals and Im tired of people pretending they're not
they aren't even a foot long
>>4904154You will basically never be able to simulate a herps natural territory in the wild using an indoor enclosure. The bigger you can manage the better, the only thing to keep in mind is how much vertical space you need, obviously something like a pixie frog isn't going to need as much vertical space as a tree monitor.
>>4904517>blocks your path
>>4904496neither is your dick and you still cry when people call it small
spilotes sulphureus
>>4904576scales are so weird man like they're just bumps on top of normal skin
>>4904577>normalThat's a microaggression, chud!
>>4904583>reptiles are white
Switched my garter back over to bioactive sine her substrate already had a thriving isopod and springtail population, and I might as well just go the rest of the way and add some soil and plants. got some pothos throughout, a smallish snake plant, and a little creeping fig in the foreground that I'm pretty sure is gonna die on me.
>>4904845my favorite thing about bioactive is that unless you fill it with fake shit it's impossible for it to look badlike, this should look like shit, there's no real design to it, it's just trash strewn about and a couple pothoses that are an ugly shade of greenbut nature is also trash strewn about and a few random plants, so it looks perfectly nice.
>>4904859I've wondered about making essentially an "urban" bioactive enclosure, small glass bottles, lots of small stones, a few chunks of concrete and cinder blocks, planks, roadside plant species, etc.You could house some creatures that thrive in our cities like anoles.I think the biggest challenge would be making sure all the decor is actually herp safe.
>>4904947Sometimes I think of having a terrarium with a man-made garden sort of look with square stones and tamed foliage then I remember I keep nature boxes because I don't want to think about people or civilization
>>4904947Would be cool for a toad. You could make the backdrop a brickwall with a pipe in it as a hiding spot.
>>4904845Add some English ivy (real version of what's on the hammock), it's stupid easy and grows faster than pothos. Philodendron 'Brasil' is also a good choice if you want variety. If you want any height, nerve plant, purple waffle plant, aluminum or watermelon pilea are all hardy the right size. Looks good, regardless! Garters are based. Do you feed her fish?
I think the dubias are getting more powerful, their food disappears a lot faster
>>4904988That's such a fun idea. May need to consider a new project. Also, does anyone know how often a fully grown giant day gecko normally sheds? I remember seeing a bit of shed skin on his nose right when I brought him home late June, but haven't seen him shed here yet.
>>4905080Adult lizards shed every couple months and with adequate humidity you'll never see a hint they did it because they eat all of it and like to take it off while hidden or at night
>You'll never rizz up the thick nerd girl that gets the feeders at the pet storewhy live
Is it true that cats touching lizards/snakes lead to toxoplasmosis, and thus an untimely death of said lizard/snake??
>>4905008the fake ivy on the hammock is just for some shade/dappling, frankly I kinda wanted to remove them altogether since she doesnt use them as much now that she's a big huge fatasss but she spent some time up there last night playing the floor is lava because everything was still moist, and for a marsh-living species she seems to prefer drier substrate. everything plant-wise is still just small cuttings so We'll see about adding more stuff as it develops.>Do you feed her fish?used to when I had three, but then one of them got a mycobacterial infection (of a sort that is common amongst farmed fish) and died horribly slowly over a period of 8 months. Chicken hearts and small fuzzies now.
>>4904947>>4904988semi-related, in one of snake discovery's enclosure design contests the reach out reptiles guy made an enclosure for a milk snake modeled after a barn, with recovered wood and a water fountain built out of a copper faucet
>>4905160Looks like shit
It's fucking absurd the transformation from dead hellscape to verdant biome that like 5 patches of moss accomplishes
So if worms aren't a good option, would snails or slugs be good for clean up crew? Or are they too prolific?
>>4905167yeah, the concept was interesting but the execution was dogshit. He revisited it a little later and somehow made a version that's simultaneously improved and also worse in its own way, leaning into the worst aspects of the prior build for some reason.
>>4905222maybe we should stick to dirt and rocks bros...
>>4905215snails and slugs would arguably be worse than worms, and they'd probably eat your living vegetation before ever eating the poop in the dirt.What exactly is the application?
>>4905226eating decaying/dead plants, like any cuc, but I also want them to nibble on live ones without destroying them because I want a proper little ecosystemspringtails and isopods subsisting on feces is a myth
>>4905215Springtails and isopods, anon. Or springtails and millipedes. They're classics for a reason.
>>4905231yeah but what's the big animal in there? one of the reasons isopods and springtails are used is because they tend to not be on the menu of most of the animals we keep. The larger detritivorous bugs (millipedes, beetles, etc) arent so lucky.
>>4905239big animal?
>>4905245you just said the isopods and springtails dont subsist on feces alone, which assumes there's something else in there shitting. what's going in the enclosure apart from the cleanup crew?
>>4905251Apart from the cleanup crew?
>>4905254"clean up crew" implies they're cleaning up for something, so yes.
>>4905260they'd clean up the food i put in probably
>>4905262then it doesnt really matter. put whatever bugs you want to in there, provided it's a proper environment for them. big honking millipedes, little guys, death feigning beetles if you want to go arid.
>>4905245No one thinks they can live on their own shit, they think they can live on something else’s shit, anon.
Rate my roach coach
>>4905415>>4905416Roach/roach
>>4905403I never said "their own feces"
>>4905421i dont see roach, only coach
>>4905447That means it's working.
>>4905263NTA but are Feigning Death Beetless going to prey on isopods? I have an arid 8x10x4" isopod enclosure/succulent garden currently full of Clowns (Klugii) and mixed springtails, but kinda want one or two bigger beetles.I dunno I might just put A. Maculata in there, they're pretty bold. It's been going about 18mo now, I put in one of the dwarf isopods that literally all disappeared overnight one day and the Clowns which are doing great.Pic is a view about 3 months after it started. The back haworthia bleached out from too much grow light and has mostly died, the rest have grown and pupped and such.
>>4905457If your isopods establish themselves you will prob have too many at one point.
>>4905423Big Fuck Jr.
>>4905462His sole purpose is to cull roaches. He eats.
>>4905461Yeah they probably will, but it hasn't happened yet and I feed lightly. I've got an 18" tropical cube with nothing but CUC and a fuck ton of plants, if it starts to be a problem I can excise some there.Or worst case I'll grab a dozen at a time and sell them on ebay. Right now they're not even doing a good job of eating the one mostly dead succulent
>>4905464Maybe they are cold?
How are you supposed to identify limestone this shit looks like every single other rock in existence
>>4905496Check to see if see if it's the outer shell of an Egyptian pyramid. If so, you're in Limestone country, baby!
>>4905500reducing soil acidity is not worth touching browns sorry
>>4905100I'm pretty sure the animal is more likely to be killed by the cat's teeth and claws than its shit
Bros is there a point where you just have to give up and accept the lizard will never let you touch it
>>4905645there will come a time at some point where you will HAVE to get hands on your animal, be it for maintenece or god forbid some emergency.get creative. lure him out with food or something. bad way to do it, but a bad way's not a bad way if nothing else works.
>>4905935I have tried thisHe will not come for the food and holding squirming insects in a pinch for an extended period without moving or injuring them is very difficult
>>4905974maybe just toss em in and sit there while he goes for them.
>>4905935What species?
>>4905988he will eat while I watch, but that's very different from being in the tank which is very different from touching him
>>4900875>we can outpace the lizard over distance since they can't run and breathe at the same timemonitors can
>>4904060Plenty big. 20L is considered the minimum
>>4906048was considered the minimum 15 years ago you mean
So mealworms are defined as plastivores. When they eat plastic, does it actually metabolize properly, or do they just shit out microplastics? Wondering how viable they are as a way to dispose of plastic cleanly. (Purely asking out of curiosity, not about to start feeding my mealworm colony plastic)
>>4906079>Defined as plastivoresNo they aren't>Does it actually metabolize properly, or do they shit out microplasticsThey properly metabolize polystyrene, turning it into frass, water and co2Mealworm colonies fed with styrofoam show no ill effects and they will prefer styrofoam to other natural foodsAn incinerator, where your recycled styrofoam goes, will also turn it into co2 and water, along with an inert slag that is used in construction. Modern incinerators produce less pollution than your car, and often produce more energy than they use.You're not saving the planet by feeding your mealworms styrofoam unless you live in the third world where it's just going to get dumped, you did not discover the key to saving the world from plastic waste.
>>4906082Forgot to include that chickens fed with mealworms fed with styrofoam also show no ill-effects.
Why doesn't pupae/cocoons convulsing so hard and fast fuck up what's inside them?
>>4906082Why are you getting so defensive? It was literally just a thought.
>>4906193>giving you facts>defensive
I thought I made a massive score hauling this fungus covered hunk of wood home but now that it's in there it just... irks me. Like it looks really out of place, or maybe it's taking up too much space, or it's not in the background enough, what do you guys think, should I just saw some of it off and hope the shelf fungus spreads? There was no real vertical element before it, I just had a different piece of wood that barely crested above the ground.
I have been watching darklings in the bioactive for about 10 minutes and can conclude that these things really are still just exactly mealworms with longer legs and a sex drivejust stupid little goobersthey even still do the same rearing up animation despite having antennae and their legs not all being up near their head
>>4906253Try slope the substrate towards the back of the enclosure and fill in the back behind the log so it looks like it’s coming out of a hill
>>4906253I looked at the image before reading what you wrote and didn't see anything wrong with it, I guess you could try rotating it a little or putting it in the back left instead, or just get some more other shit in there to fill the whole scene out, but I think it's fine. Moss might help too.
Anyone have suggestions for diurnal, arboreal, tropical-hardy invertebrates that will eat soft shelled isopods? I realized today my terrarium has near-infinite dwarf oranges - seriously hundreds - and I'd like to get a centerpiece that would cull them a bit. Ideally a colorful beetle of some sort, that would prefer isopods to plants, but nearly every plant in there is either hard leafed or overgrown, so a little nibbling wouldn't be a problem.Temp sits in mid-70s to low 80s, and humidity between 50% and 70%. I'd prefer a day gecko or some darts but the wife vetoed actual herps and for whatever reason is more OK with inverts.
>>4907111There aren't any. As a rule, there are no hungry hungry invertebrates that will devour your isopods by any meaningful amount, carnivorous invertebrates are built to sustain off nearly nothing, with very slow metabolisms and minimal movement. They are additionally nearly all autistic ambush predators who wouldn't see the isopods as a buffet, they'd see them as bugs crawling all over their house and they'd stress out.The closest answer I was given was a vinegaroon, but it's still not going to do what you want or be an ideal captive in that situation
>>4907127Yeah vinegaroon was the closest I could come up with. Or darkling beetles, but they're not particularly gregarious.Shame those active hunting social mantids only eat very specific prey, they'd be awesome.
>>4907111Not arboreal, but the most feasible thing I can think of would be one of the small terrestrial Geosesarma species, they are trash compactors that don't shy away from live food. They are fine with just a bathing dish, no need for a paludarium. You'd probably need a group of them to make even a dent into a large isopod population though.
>>4907129Darklings are detritivores, they have the same diet as the isopods bro
/herp/ and /invert/ fusion into /exo/ whenarthropods are the foundation of the reptile hobby
>>4907127What about crabs? Are there any that don't need a water dish? I know crustaceans in general are voracious.
>>4907137>>4907130Beat me to it lol.>>4907131They do but they're big enough that I've read reports of them preying on isopods. Might depend on the type, considering "darkling beetle" has over 20,000 described species. I've considered tossing a super worm or two in there to aerate the soil but I suspect I'd end up with the same isopod problem in macro.
Speaking of darkling beetles, these are 2 of my biggest supers, are they close to pupation size?
>>4907144forgot to mention the quarter is the same size as an american quarter
>>4907111Some mid sized amblypygids like Phrynus sp. would probably be a good bet. They love to eat isopods, are communal and will be hanging out above where the isopods spend most of their time so they’re not likely to get stressed or chewed to pieces the minute they shed
>>4907185whip scorpions are communal??????
While we're talking about beetles, any big species outside of blue death feigning that'd do well in an arid desert enclosure?
>>4907144Yes. Chances are, if you put them in a dark hole by themselves, they'll pupate.
>>4907230THANK YOU.Do you know how long it should take before they curl up and start the process? I've seen someone say you can check them the next day and I've seen someone else say you should wait an entire week with them in the cup, and by then they could have dehydrated
>>4907209Ironclad beetles are good. Basically any tenebs.>>4907111Maybe bombadier beetles? They aren't really arboreal but can climb OK, and are carnivorous. If their main option is isopods, they'd probably chow down.
Crested geckos are among the most braindead creatures I have ever owned
>>4907286
>Moved all the adult darklings to the bioactive>top of the oatmeal suddenly covered in worms that were constantly buried and never visible beforeHuh, I guess they really are cannibals
>>4900072>a thousand dollars for an iguanaliterally go to Florida and spend 20 minutes in the bush looking for one
How long can a baby northern blue tongue skink stay in a 40 gallon?I have a business where he/she will be part of a display, but the 120 gallon display tank is still under construction (it’s being built into the wall)
hello /herp/, i seek an animal recommendation from you. i would like a toad or frog that fits the following:-easy to care for-terrestrial-can stand temps as high as 80 f-is active enough that i can show it to people when they come over (or are diurnal)-can enjoy life in a 20 long (or even a 20 tall)
>>4907623Bumblebee Toads. They're communal, you can easily put 5+ in a 20L.
Sometimes I forget how beautiful my animals are because their stupid yellow-ass heat lamp washes them out all the timeAre new heat bulbs white?
>can't feed my detritivores my healed scabs because I'm covered in soapwhy live
>>4907609They grow pretty quickly. How much of a "baby" are we talking?Mine practically doubled in size as a juvenile in the spam of about 3 months.
>>4907736Shit - span, not spam.For reference, this is about as big as mine was when I first got him.
What happened to Intrepid Exotics?He is about to quit his channel
>>4907748Have you considered clicking the video that says "Im Done, this is why" you shilltard
>>4907664Feed them boogers.
>day gecko can't grip on to the Coco fiber backgroundAt least there's enough wood for him to climb in until I fix it.
>>4907986Why did you get a defective gecko
bros could i feed my bugs meat if I take the seasoning off or is the damage done yes i know feeders shouldnt get protein
>>4908039>meat>seasoningyou'll have to be more specific. Note that a lot of spices people use were originally used to keep animals from eating them, and stuff like onion and garlic are actually poisonous to a lot of animals/bugs, but stuff like capsaicin only works on mammals.
>>4908044good pointI'll just peel some raw off next time
Reddit never ceases to amaze.
>>4900324Had to put him down tonight. I thought things were getting better, but he couldn't even move today. Happened suddenly. Don't fully understand it.
What species of dog is this?
>>4908019He was charming
>>4908145Orange.
How long should I give superworms to start pupation before returning them to the grain? They're at about 3 or 4 days with no changes
>>4908145A dragon snake, known for being absurdly hard to keep in captivity and just dying at random, let alone to breed. Also incredibly expensive and rare.
These little guys are supposed to be able to regrow their tails, but I guess my girl is just broken.
>>4908439abuser
>>4908440Okay.
>>4908439Looks mostly regrown to me.
>>4908449Oh, it's been that level of stumpy since I initially got her from the breeder back in April. The color has changed somewhat, but from what I've seen elsewhere, they're supposed to fully regrow in a matter of maybe two months.
>>4908590Judging by how far the tail still has a pattern it looks to me like she just got the tip bitten off and didn't drop the whole thing herself, so it just healed without regrowing. Tail regrowth can be fucky if they aren't amputated at the intended point.
Skinks look so precious with short thick tails
I'm starting to genuinely get sick of my cat because her mere existing scares my lizard into hiding literally whenever he tries to do anything at all.
I'm a bit of a chaotic person so apologies if anyone gets mad, I have a southern ring neck snake and I want to put it in my mourning gecko enclosure... thoughts? tank is 18/18/24
>>4908813This is retarded and you should feel bad. That's barely large enough for mourning geckos, and you want to put a lizard eating snake in with it?You should give your lizards to someone else.
>>4908813I wouldn't risk it if that's your only colony. Get another enclosure and try it with some geckos you can spare.
>>4908765I like cats, but I could never have one, they are by far the least convenient non-bird pet, at least if you don't just make it fend for itself outside. Dogs might be marginally more work, but they are far less restricting and easier to live with, especially if you want herps too.
2 times now I have found a dubia male that's flown out of the bin, climbed through the (admittedly not tightly attached) mesh and ended up trapped in a plastic dish across the roomWhyThere is no way the conditions are that awful, or the competition with (1) other male is so fierce that my dubias are suffering so horribly that mine regularly fly despite the species being considered effectively flightlessI even recently put the heat pad on the side instead of the bottom like you're apparently supposed to because insects go down to escape heat (though I never found any cooked corpses)
>>4908897My roaches are also finding their way out of their enclosure, I think it's just a general population thing, I've been seeing roaches of all non-newborn ages crawling around on the top of their bin.However it has been a while since I've given the bin a good cleaning, so maybe it's also that.
>>4908983>population thingMy colony is mimoscule, I'm not even on the second generation of adults yet
Hey anons, what frog is this?
>>4908988american bullfrog
>generation of pupa hatched>they were pet store mealworms so their moults are all fucked up:ci forgot about thatI hope the supers will do ok
>>4908992>only one super assumed the position>it was the one I put in a day after the others>it was smaller than the othersso if they're ready they'll go in like 2 days rather than a week, and size doesn't matter it's just randomniceone moulted though, that's pretty neati hope the beetle won't be lonely waiting for the rest of them though :c
What's the best pet between a green iguana and a burmese python?
>>4909328I'd say the iguana but I'm a lizard person. Neither are really good options. If you're lucky and get a relatively chill iguana they're pretty cool. Feeding them is easy, they need a pretty large but not unmanageable enclosure. But it's still a big enclosure with a lot of heat and UVB and most adult green iguanas are very angry and hate handling. But if you can build trust with one that has a good temperament they're super cool. There are better options if they're available where you are though. If you want a diurnal arboreal display lizard a giant green day gecko is much easier to care for. If you want a big iguana, rhino iguanas have a much better temperament on average. But honestly I get the appeal of the green iguana, they're very iconic.Burms are generally nicer/easier to handle provided you're an average sized adult male. They toe the line of "unreasonably large snake" which can be a good or bad thing depending on what you're looking for. That will usually mean custom enclosure and custom decor. But they stay small enough, usually, that you're not hunting down livestock for feedings.Lizard vs Snake dynamics come into play as well. Lizards have higher metabolisms so they eat/poop more often, require more frequent care/maintenance and need larger enclosures for their size. They're more active and dynamic animals in general. Meanwhile most snakes, once you get them on an eating schedule, only require intermittent care since poop day and feeding day usually coincide.
>>4909328Burmese python. Iguana's that evolved on the mainland have to be fight or flight 24/7 to survive. A rhino, rock, or Lesser Antillean iguana are much calmer.
>>4909328This is the most "If you have to ask, you shouldnt buy the animal" question I've ever seen
Gecko left one of his sheds uneaten. Pretty.
I want to buy a baby alligator snapping turtle and eat it when it grows to big to keep.
>>4909423Why not just go out and hunt a snapping turtle?
>>4909421Steal itTake revenge for his greed
>>4908105Is it?
>>4909433Looks like a cuttlebone to me
Anyone have any experience with (or links to info on) Bark Anoles? They're little guys, and invasive in my boomer parents' south Florida backyard, so was wondering if I could forcibly adopt one or if that'd just doom it to die inside like it seems to do with fence lizards.Google didn't provide any useful info when I looked.
>>4909441i wouldn't think they'd be that different from any other Caribbean anole that has invaded Florida. They're invasive anyways so I wouldn't worry about accidentally killing them in the same way I would with a native alligator lizard.
>>4909445>>4909441Did more research, their primary diet is ants so guess that's that. Oh well, they're nice looking fellows.
>>4909454Very dignified
>>4909454>not just farming antsto be fair that has to be one of the lamest ant eating herps in existence when you could be feeding a dart frog or horny toad with them.
>>4909468All ant youtubers are faggots, I don't want to catch antkeeper disease
>>4909468>implying I don't have a formicariumThere's farming ants, and then there's farming enough to feed dozens a day to a lizard. The latter is not really feasible.You're right that it's hardly the best looking ant-eater.
>>4909517I feel like any remotely serious ant terrarium/properly cared for colony would produce enough to feed a small lizard.
How do you even go about tracking down a rare species?
>>4909537like what?
>>4909539like a photo where your mom is less than 300lbs
>>4909524most formivores (idk if this is actually a word but ant-eater is already an animal) eat a fucking ton of prey though. if farming ants was an optimal/efficient way to produce feeders nobody would be fucking around with fruit walks.
OP here>>4909336>>4909419Honestly i had a baby green iguana in 2023. It was starting to calm down too but then one day i lost it by keeping it outdoor during the summer in an unsecured big bird cage, the one you see in pic related (yeah very retarded choice i know) don't worry about it becoming invasive though they can't survive outside where i live. I think i'm good at taming them down but not very much with the staple diet they need. Making a big diy enclosure is not a problem for me>>4909375They are a prey item for many animals in the wild and big adults males are also territorial as fuck. Their rage is relatable
