Is anyone here going to vet school? Is becoming a veterinarian the best way to help animals? I wanna help animals in crisis so bad but I feel so helpless
>>4906276personnel pets are some of the best cared for animals on the planetgo protest factory farming
>>4906285Which animal is the luckiest do you think? Which is the unluckiest
>>4906276no becoming a politician would be, you can go into personal practice be drained by the stupid decisions that people with pets make and end up killing someone or you can go into the factory business, be drained by how soulless it is and kill yourself insteadT. vet>>4906285you are wrong, in non third world countries the regulations on factory farming are highly enforced and standards are met, however when it comes to peoples pet those laws that apply are horribly enforced.>>4906544horses prolly have the best overall, porkers the worst
>>4906276If you say what country you're in, you could receive better advice. If you can afford it I think one of the best ways to help would be volunteering in countries for endangered animals, but obviously you can do a lot more if you live in such a country.
>>4906547> in non third world countries the regulations on factory farming are highly enforced and standards are metyou are retarded and should not be a vet.
>>4906276I thought she was holding this guy.
>>4906580same here lmfao
>>4906276if you want to help animals you can either become a vet, join a wildlife rescue sanctuary or an animal shelter
>>4906276Vet tech here, you probably won't find many vets here.Vet work sucks ass, as you don't specialize in the way human doctors do - human doctors generally specialize in a specific organ or skill and hone those assets, or in GP where they are only expected to learn the base level of everything. When a vet specializes, they will at best specialize in types of animals. So they still have to know everything from the workings of the brain to fungus living on the skin.Vets also go into debt, and unlike doctors their jobs will not usually help pay off their debt for them and they don't make anywhere near as much money as doctors. They also have nowhere near the same legal protections as human doctors.There is actually a huge issue with vet shortage, because of how aids it is to be a vet right now. It is so bad that some states are trying to bribe vets to come to rural areas with more pay or paying back portion of their debt. One state just passed a law to basically introduce a nurse practitioner to the vet scene; it would let a middle man prescribe, diagnose, prognose, and perform surgeries, because there aren't enough vets so they're basically just getting rid of the schooling requirement.Vets have their own organization and hotline dedicated to try to get them to not kill themselves.Vet tech isn't much better. I went to school to get paid minimum wage, and I have an expiration date above my head too. Most clinics just hire highschool girls to do the work I do, because owners are more likely to bitch about the price and how much hair your shaved off rather than the fact Shayleigh just mixed up Dexamethasone and Dexdomitor The best way to help animals is probably make a fuck ton of money, and then use that money to fund something like Maddie's Fund. Doing it with your job will only trickle along, because you need to survive first and foremost.
>>4906558I'm in the US and I'd like to ideally help animals involved in torture rings in places like china, willing to change my major, learn chinese and relocate
>>4906276>Is becoming a veterinarian the best way to help animalsyeah... You'll help a looot of animals no longer feel any pain.
>>4906706You know honestly that might be a good idea. When/if you are able to, definitely volunteer. Good luck anon.
>>4906706The only way you're going to help animal welfare in 3rd world countries is to raise up the human welfare first. Humans aren't going to give a flying fuck about animals if they're struggling to survive themselves.
don't vets have the highest rate of suicide amongst professions?
>>4906285>go make people despise the idea of animal rightskill yourself, it would help animals more than what you're doing
>>4907307I thought that was dentists
>>4907307>>4907689Optometrists have overtaken them, at least in Australia.
>>4906547>in non third world countries the regulations on factory farming are highly enforced and standards are met,pigsbeinggassed.webm
>>4907307One of the highest, but not THE highest.It's no surprise that they are much more likely to die by poison than other profession suicides
>>4906276it seems to be an absolutely miserable professionI had to personally do a technician course to take care of my chickens properly, because the only remaining poultry vet in the area shot his wife
I'd only consider vet work if you also had a passion for biology and medicine on top of a love for animals. It's hard, underappreciated work that exposes you to a lot of mistreatment and suffering outside of your control, if going through that starts to make you feel like you can't do it for the animals anymore you're gonna be left with nothing if helping animals was the only reason you became a vet.If you just want to help animals then pick a stable career so you can afford to donate to reputable shelters/rescues, or volunteer to foster.
>>4907886Is that a fucking rat MRI
>>4906276It depends on what you're comfortable with. What they don't tell you when you start is that unfortunately, a good portion of helping animals in crisis is humane euthanasia because the problem isn't fixable or the owners can't afford it. As a career, if you're willing to deal with the debt, a very hard extra 4 years of school, and one of the highest burnout rates, its not terrible. There's definitely better jobs out there though, and other ways to help animals.
>>4906559>>4907695>grocery consoomers
>>4906706how is one brought up so ignorant
>>4908548Wdym?
>>4908664Hes probably a vegan and gives more shits about battery hens than torched dogs. Vegans dont believe different animals have different values like God intended. They follow eastern mysticism like most bored white narcissists.
going to study to get into animal medicine because it's the only career i can see myself being interested in enough to maintain and i already have major clinical depressionam i fucked? i come from a family of medical professionals so i have a strong stomach so i'm more wigged out by the human side of things. what about vet med is so taxing on you guys specifically? any advice?
>>4908474I'll assume it is real and assume it is for a study of some sorts.
>>4908712Bro that is literally me. It is going to be your coworkers and bosses that fuck you sideways and make you want to kill yourself. It is NEVER the animals that are the issue.Clinic cliques are real so if you have autism or something, you're pretty fucked from the start. You need to make friends with the right people and also bully the right people. It is largely woman dominated, so managers are fucking aids and not only allow ostracizing but will often encourage it. Because it is a bunch of women, communication is awful because no one wants to hurt feelings despite them all hating each other.If you're going into vet tech, you have a short shelf life - once you're in your mid 30's your body starts to break down. Men are also more in demand than woman because they tend to be physically bigger and stronger. If you're a woman around 25-30, these are the 'danger years' and you'll be labeled as a 'baby haver' due to the likelihood of you getting pregnant; clinics want to avoid baby-havers at all costs because that's several months you can't touch cats or clean shit, do x-rays, or monitor sx AND they have to pay maternity leave. Also a lot of states don't protect the tech title, and in those states you'll be working alongside high school students and paid accordingly.If you're going for vet, be prepared for massive debt and no way to pay it off without doing some scummy shit. Ironically you will find yourself in a lot of situations where owners will call you a scumbag because you won't do some scummy dangerous medicine on their animal, or you won't suck their cock for free. Also I worked in vet med for about 5 years before burning out entirely and just succumbing to poor NEETdom.
>>4908834not autistic (i don't think) but i am female and hugely socially anxious and keep to myself. this sucks man, i feel like this is the only thing i can do and everyone in the world says it's actually the shittiest job everwhat other jobs can you get with an animal science degree? can i just do autopsies in a back room or something? medicine and animals are both things i sperg out about a lot and i don't want to end up doing dumb shit like becoming an english teacher
>>4908664in what world do you think the chinese are willing to listen to an american foreigner about their food habits? and an american vet no less LOL the entire culture regarding animals is entirely different in china.>>4908666stop being a faggot
>>4908712you will kill yourself if you already suffer from major clinical depression, the hard side isnt the animals it rarely gets super gross or anything but the sheer ignorance of people will kill you and you will have to suck up to these ignorant people.>>4908834this guy knows>>4908826No thats just for fun, the MRI for rats and mice are specialized for their size specifically.
Vet student here.Expect pain. While it's generally easier than real medicine it also has some quirks. For instance nobody has written a good book on animal anatomy yet. The main book is könig's doorstop but it's translation is full of mistakes so enjoy (if anyone has any recommendations please share). Perusing zootechnics might be a better path honestly if you want to help animals, they're the people responsible for making things run smoothly on farms (we get called if they fail and half the time we're required by law to eliminate the herd). >>4906635Would those states be willing to import a vet from Europe? Always wanted to emigrate to the US.
/vet med/ general when>>4908836From what you're saying, you remind me a lot of myself. I was depressed af going to school for something more practical (compsci) and switched to vet tech halfway through. I'll be honest, I loved going to college for vet med. I actually loved learning the shit. I was in study groups, tutored people, I volunteered to bring in animals for practice and bring samples from vets. It was fun.I didn't ever think I would be making a lot with that career path, but I do wish people were more upfront about the struggle. I was fed a lot of lies about how I could make a comfortable wage by specializing, and how we'd be more in demand in a few years. Maybe covid fucked that trajectory up, but it isn't the reality.I was actually going to go for animal science, and stopped when I realized I couldn't find any jobs that required said degree, so I can't comment on that. That degree also won't lead you to be a vet/tech. A vet tech degree has a fairly narrow path. 99% of jobs will be your small animal general practice. Large animal is few and far between and pays even worse. Exotic is rare. ER is aids and will burn you out fast, as will shelter med but with less pay. There's lab work, there's more competition for that so you'll probably have to get your LAT. Zoo is basically volunteer so forget about that. There are remote positions but they will often require extra unrelated certification (usually legal/insurance shit) and you're competing with the entire pop of techs that have 20y exp, because you can't do the physical aspect of tech work past like 40y.fwiw if I wasn't married and leeching off my s/o I'd still be living at home and leeching of my parents. Where vet tech does make a good deal of money, you're likely living in a HCOL area. Usually when I see vet techs that aren't leeching, they're living in shared apartments with 3+ others
>>4908917Not just the ignorance, but willful ignorance. Sometimes even arrogant. People despise the thought of being in the wrong. And they will allow animals to suffer as a result and then blame you for it.
>>4908915What? I have no intention of turning china vegetarian. You can't change these people's lack of empathy for animals so why bother trying? I just save animals caught up in chinese torture rings, and help the ones that survived medically
>>4908919>Would those states be willing to import a vet from Europe? Always wanted to emigrate to the US.We only let brown people into the US.
>>4909490Not true, I've seen Ukrainian refugees all women
