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reposting from the end of last thread
I'm on about week three of having my second cat, and my resident cat is not cooperating. I kept them entirely separated for about a week, but then the new cat started bolting from the room whenever I opened the door and it became an impossibility. Since then, they've been having mealtimes together and supervised playtime/exploration time a few times a day with basically no issues. Started with hissing and some swatting, but nothing horrible and everything was going well. The past few days, the resident cat started charging at the new cat whenever the new cat was exploring and she did not like it. Now, it's become extended swatting matches, and the new cat is getting visibly scared and hiding with this happens. I still have them separated most of the time, but my resident cat is really pissing me off. I have diffusers (which do fucking nothing) and I have them eating treats/meals out of my hand right next to each other, so I'm not sure why the resident cat is being so aggressive. I just put her in "time out" for starting another slap fight.
Both females, both around a year old.

>>4911288
Anon, I am in a similar position and it blows. My situation has been going on for TEN MONTHS
My wife and I have two male cats that are both awesome, best cats you could ask for. Then we had a stray female show up and she was super sweet so we brought her in. Separated her for over a month when we had her dewormed, checked for contagious diseases, treated for eat infection, spayed (she was already spayed and since she was so friendly we suspect she was an abandoned pet).
Anyway, the time came to introduce her to the boys. We did it individually. The older male didn't like her but tolerated her and even laid down beside her. The younger male LOST HIS SHIT and attacked her, full on cartoon dust cloud mode.
Felt really bad and then tried to start over. Separated for weeks, added cat diffusers, got them pheromone collars, tried feeding on the other side of a door, scooting bowls closer each time.
Nothing worked. The younger male just would not tolerate the female.
We eventually even had the male put on medication, tried two different kinds and had some mild success with basically cat Xanax. Still not enough though, they could not exist in the same room.
The kicker is that a week after we took in the female, we found out my wife was pregnant.
Now he has had our daughter and there is still no progress all these months later. Tried the Jackson Galaxy method, even bought his snake oil stuff for scared cats and bully cats. Didn't work. Read that maybe feeding together was making it worse and fed them separate and everyone calmed down a bit. Tried mutual playtime with a baby gate up and it was sort of successful but the male kept trying to get to the female.
We have tried so hard. It's demoralizing. We have come to love the female and don't just want to give her up to a shelter that might kill her but we also don't know anyone that wants to take her. The few leads we had on good homes evaporated like they were cursed.

>>4911358
I know this is a long post but the kicker came a few days ago. Wife and I were sick of it all, nothing had worked. So we figured, why not try to just let them figure it out on their own and I would be the referee. I know this is stupid and I feel like a fool now but I was desperate. We trimmed their claws really well and just let the female in the main house. Went okay the first time but the second time the male lost his mind again and attacked my wife, probably thinking the back of her head was the female cat. Had to go to the ER because he got my wife really bad, right on her scalp, nose, and mouth.

I don't know what to do.
I'm sorry to unload on you, anon, but I know what you're feeling and I just hope your progress goes better than ours. Jesus, what a mess.

>>4911358
>>4911360
Jesus, that sounds rough. Thankfully it's not that bad here, just slap fights. No blood or anything, but I'm worried that it might escalate.

>>4911364
Thanks for reading. As bad as it sounds, ours could have been a lot worse. He didn't get her eyes or any slashes on her face really. Plus, she was holding our daughter, who was luckily untouched.

Anyway, one thing that maybe did help us was using the cat dancer toy. It's super cheap and all ours go wild for it. It Got ours good and tired, you might want to look into it. We got two and just use both at once so they aren't competing for toys. Good luck, anon. I hope your girls get along.

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I originally put the footstool there so she could look out the window but now she sits on it instead.
The sill is within jumping height but she never jumps.

I'm going to adopt three kittens later this week. The kittens are roughly 4 months old.
Just need a quick sanity check to make sure I haven't missed anything important.
I have purchased these cat related items:
-3 cat trees
-Scratching posts
-Other scratching surfaces and toys
-Fur toys with no choking hazards
-5 stainless steel litter boxes
-Litter genies
-The litter they were using at the shelter
-The dry and wet food they were eating at the shelter
-Water fountain
-3 cat carriers
-3 fleece blankets
-A bunch of cat beds I threw around
I bought the following cleaning products:
-Vacuum with a HEPA filter
-Carpet steamer
-Nature's miracle spray
-Black light
-Air purifiers with a HEPA filter

>>4911565
Oh, I also tried to cat proof my house. I installed child safety locks and blocked off crevices.
I'm sure the fuckers will find a hole I missed, but I think I blocked off all of the major ones.

>>4911288
slap fights are a dominance struggle thing. They'll work it out.
>>4911358
You however are fucked, I think. You're going to have to choose between the female and the other male, that's just not going to resolve if they're going that hard that consistently.

>>4911565
you're well past overprepared. should be fine.

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>>4911570
That's good.
I hope to give them a good life.

>>4911565
If they're already acquainted with each other then that's already a leg up. Introducing cats to one another seems to always be one of the hardest parts. Just make sure to get all their shots and get them spayed/neutered when you're able to do so. It's important for their health and your continued sanity.

>>4911579
The cats are siblings and they're currently in the same foster home.
The adoption agency told me they were spray and neutered.
I'll have to request written vaccination & medical records from the agency, but the rep I'm working with said the cats were vaccinated for FIV.
I'm trying to schedule their first vet check up for mid December. I'm going to try to build a positive association with their carriers right away.

Are cats intelligent enough to build a pavlov dog association with a Christmas bell?
If there's ever an emergency I want them to get into their carriers ASAP.
I was thinking of ringing a Christmas bell whenever they were in their carrier, and giving them a treat.
I'm hoping they're smart enough to understand carrier + bell = treat. So whenever I ring a bell they know to get into their carrier because that means they'll get a treat.

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>>4911589
By Christmas bells I mean these things.
Not the brass bells, I think that would scare the cats.

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What is she trying to tell me?

>>4911384
Silly kot

>>4911591
>brush me like one of your french girls

>>4911591
>All that fluff
Her hairballs must be gargantuan

>>4911591
neck wings lol

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is this normal?

2 males, he was yeowing and biting the other ones back

>>4911274
What brand of litter do you guys use that doesn’t get everywhere

how much should I feed a ten pound adult kot

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>>4911288
I think I may have responded to you in the last thread.
>>4911358
Is the male actively seeking out the female? When where and how are these fights happening?
Also if it is the MALE that attacked your wife, I would honestly suggest getting rid of the male cat if you're going to get rid of one. I responded to the other anon in the dead thread, I think a lot of that advice would help here too. I think keeping a written record of these fights would help you out too.
>Jackson Galaxy
He's a bit like ceasar milan - he has SOME good ideas, but then promotes shit that doesn't help and imo makes it worse - now you've tried all of his snake oil and feel hopeless as a result because this fag said 'try x it will totally work!'. Feliway does work, but it really only takes the edge off - it does NOT get animals to do a complete 180. I still recommend it though in areas they spend a lot of time in.
>>4911565
Honestly sounds like you got shit covered, and are going the full 9 yards. so I will add these NON essentials for funsies;
- Non-plastic bowls with short lips (pic related); plastic can harbor germs even after cleaned and cause acne. The shape of these bowls supposedly are more comfy because it doesn't push their whiskers
- Some sort of mat to help catch litter if the boxes are going to be on rug/carpet
- insurance ASAP; the earlier you get insurance, the more bullshit it will cover. I used to be against pet insurance because the cost rarely justified it, but now vet costs are rising it's becoming more worth it. Just do research to make sure the insurance isn't fucking you over
- A robot vacuum, if you have the money to burn. Newer models are actually really good. Might be helpful with the litter and cat hair
- a catio, but wait until they are around 8m-1y old, on the very off-chance they come into contact with FeLV it gives time for vaccines to kick into effect.
Do NOT bother with feline DNA tests at this time - they aren't advanced enough to give you decent info.

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>>4911589
>FIV
Surely, surely you mean FeLV. If it is FIV, that may be a problem. FIV vax has largely been discontinued. It was found to have a lot of bad side effects along with also having shit immunity against FIV.
>Are cats intelligent enough to build a pavlov dog association with a Christmas bell?
Yes. You know the meme of cats running to the sound of a can opener? Same difference. Its just that training cats takes a little more nuance than training a dog and tends to require different methods.
>positive association with their carriers
I did this accidentally buy having a heat lamp aimed at a carrier, and even when the heat lamp was off the cat would sleep in it.
Since you seem to really like going above and beyond, I'd suggest looking into a vet clinic that is certified fear free - it is hard to obtain because it requires the entire fucking clinic to be designed a certain way. A good middle ground is an individual vet that is fear free certified. I also prefer clinics that are AAHA accredited; just a little extra that ensures they have a degree of maintenance and cleanliness and do things by the book. If you're really autistic, you can look for a cat-only clinic, but they may be a little rare.
>>4911699
I can't quite tell what is happening because you have two voids in a dark void, but I wouldn't be too concerned if it isn't causing either cat a deal of discomfort
>>4911737
>doesn’t get everywhere
lol
IME all litter has a little chance to get everywhere. The best luck I had was actually using wood pellets, BUT wood pellets suck in literally every other aspect and not worth it imo. You can get a mat to help keep letter tracking down, but I only advise this if the box is on a carpet/rug, otherwise it's easier to sweep it up daily. Fine litter is worse than coarse in this aspect
>how much should I feed a ten pound adult kot
Unfortunately I need to know the food you're feeding to answer this. Assuming 10# is a healthy weight and this is an adult, around 230kcal

What cat toys have you guys had luck with? My cat is getting fat and old.

>>4911757
>I think I may have responded to you in the last thread.
then why respond to me now fuckface?

>>4911767
old boot string

>>4911767
Flicking plastic bottle caps across the room is the only “toy” my cat cares about long term.
He gets bored of all the electronic ones I buy him after a while.

>>4911779
Can't be anything she can swallow because it will be swallowed. My biggest success was a laser pointer combined with one of those catnip stuffed bananas to finish play, that meme "go cat" wand with the fancy lure, bell balls, and just plain old empty boxes. She gets tired fast now though.

>>4911763
it looks like the dominant one was mounting the other. my gf says they never did this before but I've seen it twice now.

>>4911757
If he knows that she is in the house, he will almost always try to stalk her. We have had a FEW times where he didn't, once where they were eating a few pieces of kibble in the same room, and once where he ignored her to check out the room she usually stays in. The fights usually happen in our living room.
We aren't going to get rid of him though because we have had him for 5 years now. The rest of the time, when he doesn't see her, he is the sweetest cat I have ever known, very affectionate and loving. That was the only time he has ever been aggressive toward us and it was really only a split second, although it was enough to hurt her unfortunately

>>4911873
If you were to rehome anybody it should be the girl, desu fampai, if just to get her in a better environment. the boy was there first.

>>4911873
if you're able to figure out a way to keep them separated while still being able to see each other, that might do something
if he sees her day after day but can't do anything to her, eventually he may stop getting so worked up

>>4911883
Yeah we have been trying to look for a good home for hee for a while now but it's really hard. We have had her nearly a year and love her, she is very sweet, and so we don't just want to give her away to a shelter if we can avoid it. There have been a few times where someone has said they might take her, only for it to fall through.

>>4911891
I have thought about this. We have really big windows into her room that he could see her through, but he has redirected his aggression toward the other male once before and so I would be worried about it.

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is walking your cat a thing? my cat snuck out last week for the very first time and now he has an intense spirit for adventure. i tried just letting him out on the porch, but he ended up vanishing for a full day and i had to go find him. was thinking walking him on a harness or something could be a good compromise.

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>>4911274
QRD on getting 2 older cats to get along and feasibility of the whole thing given the following inputs?

Cat A
>host, old male, sterilized
>very friendly towards humans, but can't stand other cats, hisses and yells when he sees one even if it's smaller and isn't posturing
>lived his entire life as the household's only cat; had to share space with a hyperactive small dog for a while, didn't appreciate it but tolerated I guess
>indoors, often ventures outside spurred by curiosity, but the excursions are always brief, is anxious when there
Cat B
>guest, adult female, sterilized
>apprehensive around humans except for her owner, lets herself be pet when indoors, doesn't let anyone get close when outdoors
>seems to avoid other cats, fearful
>spent most of her life outdoors, but usually eats and sleeps indoors

I am concerned that they'll just end up being terrified of each other, hide in opposite corners of the house and develop health issues over stress. Cat B also needs to be decontaminated of whatever parasites there are and be litter trained. Can't really split the house in two long term. Cat B may also not appreciate being cooped up but it's winter so doors and windows have to be kept closed. There's an antechamber of sorts separated from the rest of the house by a door that is normally locked, whereas the outside door has a cat trapdoor in it, so B could theoretically be settled there to continue her semi-outdoors life, but there's no guarantee she would return and/or wouldn't get chased by a local stray dog after leaving the premises.

Having a hard time imagining them getting along, the only thing they'd have going for them is that neither is violent.

>>4911976
Some people can do it but damned if I can understand how.

>>4911565
I ended up backing out from adopting this litter.
One of the vets at the shelter suspects they have herpesvirus and they're being kept under quarantine until further notice.
I'm going to see some kittens that are living with a foster family associated with the shelter instead.
>>4911757
>insurance ASAP; the earlier you get insurance
I'll ask my vet for insurance recommendations during their first check up.
I'll just pay routine expenses out of pocket, I think I'll only use insurance if something major happens.
I have an emergency fund built up and I'm okay with using it on my cats.
>robot vacuum
I shall look into this.
>a catio
Is a catio worth it if you live in Canada?
Catio would be unusable where I live from Mid oct - Mid may.
Cats would love it in July and August though.
I was thinking of growing sunflowers on my porch this summer to attract wildlife to the patio. Their biggest cat tree is right next to the patio window,

>>4911591
She wants that blender doe

>>4911976
Yes it is! Cats can learn to enjoy walks on leashes like dogs do.

>>4911983
You'd honestly be better off with getting one of them and a pair of kittens instead. The kittens will play with each other most of the time because the older one literally has no energy for them.

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my brother is living with me at the moment and his cat likes watching us pee

How far apart should litter pans be?

>>4912463
For sure, I'd rather deal with young and mouldable kittens who wouldn't look threatening to my old man and probably would be too busy with each other than to bother him. But, alas, the circumstances are, different. The newcomer cat is due to lose her home so the options are either to
a) take her in, try domesticating and hope she gets along with the old cat;
b) bring her to our property but keep her separately with access to the outside (either explain the flapdoor or whip up an insulated cathouse with a heating pad) and hope she doesn't just run off for good;
c) help her through the winter by dropping by now and then and leaving food, then leave her to her fate.
Obviously, the last option should be avoided if possible. Winters get quite cold and she's likely used to having a warm place to sleep at. There's a minor chance someone else would step up to take her in but atm realistically she's no other options.

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>>4911976
Yes it can absolutely be done and you must absolutely do it if you want to satisfy your cat's desires for the outdoors.

>>4912472
Set a room aside for her that he doesn't use then.

Anybody see any black friday or other good deals on cat trees? I just adopted my first cat last week and he's a big guy so I'd like to get him something nice and sturdy.

>>4912467
I have two cats, they insist on separate boxes.
If their boxes are closer than 6 feet they get upset.

>>4912650
Sounds like you have Karen cats. Sorry, bro.

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I was asked to clean a resident's apartment at my workplace (retirement community) while he is away and his cat is in terrible condition. Dirt all over it's paws, matted greasy fur, and snot dripping from its mouth and nose. The guy is notoriously messy and his place stinks of his own piss cuz he gets it everywhere and barely flushes his toilet so the cat has to live with that stench and all the other nasty shit he leaves everywhere. The cat is clearly sick and can't clean itself, it needs to go to a vet asap. Should I just leave it be? I feel terrible that this cat isn't being taken care of properly but it's not my cat. The guy should be in an assisted living place cuz he can't even take care of himself properly yet alone and elderly cat

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>>4912835
Here are her legs

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>>4911767
Those little plastic circle rings you peel off of milk jugs, paper bags, and boxes

>>4911809
ok that changes things. Have you seen those catnip balls? I used to get em all the time but all the stores near me stopped carrying them so idk if they were recalled or something

>>4911838
If they are both fixed it might just be a dominance thing or even done in play. I wouldn't stress about it too much unless they begin to show signs of stress,

>>4911873
Maybe he considers the living room his territory, which would be difficult because I'm assuming most of the rooms are close to the living room or you'd have to cross the living room to get to another?
The suggestion to rehome the attacker was solely based on the fact that when he gets stressed enough he redirects his aggression towards people; I understand you've had him longer, and normally I'd say suck it up because the animal that has been there should stay there. But things change when there is a baby around that may get hurt. That's pretty much the only reason.
>>4911976
Yup I had a cat I leash trained. It takes time though before you can get them outside with a harness and leash. There's some training involved

>>4911983
>develop health issues over stress
You have to be really stressed over a very long time, or just physically injured.
>not appreciate being cooped up
If you're talking specifically about in the house, I have fostered cats for a long time and had no issue keeping cats for months in a single room. The nice thing about cats is you can really utilize vertical space. If you mean outside, then yeah they kinda get addicted to it.
>be litter trained
Cats tend to come already litter trained thanks to lizard brain. If it doesn't use the litterbox, you might want to rule out health problems first.
>Can't really split the house in two long term
Don't really need to split the house, just a bedroom or bathroom will be fine for a slow introduction period, or get a cat 'kennel' pic rel

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>>4912257
Lots of patience. The first step for me is literally putting the harness in a place the cat likes to sleep just to get them used to the sight and smell of the harness and leash, if that gives you an indicator of how small the steps are.

>>4912341
Herpes is actually pretty common and is treatable. It can become chronic in a sense that for some cats, it will lay dormant and then pop up in times of stress, but that is not the norm. Just to keep you prepared.
>Is a catio worth it
Really only a question you can answer, but you have time to think about it. I lived in a cold area, basically the same warm months, my cats enjoyed the catio. The one would occasionally go out in the snow for funsies for a second before getting upset that snow melts and turns to water.
If you have the funds already, you may not even want the insurance. Look into it, don't just take an anon's word for it. I often just recommend it because a lot of people can barely afford the vet, let alone an emergency.
>>4912465
I'd be so terrified it would pounce on the penis
>>4912467
Should? As far apart that will allow the cats in the house to still use them.
Technically it is advised that the litter pans be placed in quiet area, and placed in a way so that you can't see the one litter box from the POV of the other litter box, to prevent one cat stalking both boxes. I have also noticed cats tend to be polite and not want to piss/shit when another cat is in the litterbox next to them, so I usually place them in different rooms.
>>4912591
Ollies usually has great deals year round on cat trees.
>>4912835
Oh fuck that cat needs a dental. IDK if there's anything you can do, you'd probably get further calling someone for elderly welfare, like elder abuse hotline, than you would calling for animal neglect. It is also possible this cat is just super fucking old and at the end of it's life, although it should still be on some medication for the apparent URI

>>4912869
>you'd probably get further calling someone for elderly welfare, like elder abuse hotline
The place I work at is a large independent living place and to get in you have to be mentally and mostly physically fit. However we've got some cases where residents are basically plopped there by their kids/relatives cuz they think it's a nice place and don't care whether or not they can take care of themselves. The guy walks fine but he's clearly mentally not there as he's quite forgetful (has notes everywhere to remind him what to do) and barely cleans up after himself, I wouldn't be surprised if his slobby way of living hasn't damaged the integrity of the apartment unit. Other residents have complained about the smell emanating from his apt but I guess since housecleaners come once every 2 weeks they let it slide. So he's not really getting abused.
>It is also possible this cat is just super fucking old and at the end of it's life
He adopted the cat from a shelter about 2 years ago, she was 8 or 9 at that time so she's old but not super old.
I ended up telling my supervisor and she said she told the head of resident services to get in touch with him about the state of his cat. The cat is such a sweetheart it doesn't deserve to live like that

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she's the kitty

>Cat gets skitty as fuck when I'm wheeling the bin back in because it's loud
>Same cat will come up to me when I'm blowdrying my hair so I can blowdry him as well, doesn't care that it's on max and is loud as all fuck and loves every second of it

>>4912862
Not any of the anons you're talking to but you mentioned
>Cats tend to come already litter trained thanks to lizard brain
While that's true, you might also get an autistic cat who understands that a litter box is for pooping and peeing but will consistently stick the wrong end into the thing while doing so, with predictably stupid results.

>>4912888
Qt

Over the past week, my 7 m/o cat has been spending most of her time hiding under my bed and is less interested in playing or lounging around with me.

She will come out if i call for her like 10 times and is friendly, but retreats back under if I'm not giving her constant attention/gets bored of playing.

I've read that hiding is a symptom of pain, illness and depression, although she has no other symptoms as such lack of appetite, squinting, crouching, aggression etc.

I want to take her to the vet but can't get in until Monday. I really just wanna know if I should be really worried and if there's anything I can do to help her as I can't really ascertain what she wants.

Against my better judgement I got a 7 month old kitten and brought him home to my 18 year old tortie. The new cat had a whole finished basement to himself and we even got the mesh zipper door barrier so they could look at each other without physical contact. My resident cat immediately met him with scorn hissing and growling whenever they were in line of sight. Over the next 5 days my 18 year old girlie lost strength in her hind legs. She was unable to get into her litter boxes unassisted but was still eating and drinking. X-rays showed constipation with mega colon and an absurd amount of arthritis in every joint. She took one dose of Adequan which seemed to give her more solid footing but she then refused to eat She hasn't eaten in 4 days after trying everything from high calorie paste to baby food, all her previous known good foods and even got a prescription appetite stimulant to rub on her ears but her breath smells like death and I see no option but to put her down with an in home provider tomorrow. This happened in less than a week. Was she a ticking time bomb or did bringing home this new cat trigger her decline?

Years ago, when I was a teenager, I came across this really small kitty where I lived. He looked really bad, had a hurt nose and was clearly feeling unwell
I had nothing to help him with and I couldn't take him inside, I gave him some food and he just went away while I went inside to grab some more stuff, I assumed he died somewhere, he was looking really, really bad. I still think about how I failed him, how I could've saved him or at least gave him some comfort in his final moments, but I didn't
There's this cat now that I see in the neighborhood, and he's clearly unwell. He's not grooming, his back legs are stiff while he walks, and he's so, so thin. I'm, again, at a point where I feel I can't help this little dude. I have 2 cats now, I live in an even smaller house, and I'm having trouble feeding myself in order to keep my cats fed.
How do I help him? I legit can't take him in and I don't know if I can afford to feed him on a daily basis even if it's from afar, I'm at a fucking terrible time of my life, but I can't just let this guy slowly die, is there any way I can try and help? There's some NGO's for cats in my city but they're very full, people don't adopt old fucked up cats here, apparently
Maybe I'm just depressed, but I can't stop thinking about him, and I can't stop thinking that I'm about to let another cat die on my watch because I'm too much of a fucking loser to be able to help him

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Sup bitches?

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How does /kot/ feel about Fluffkins, the feral cat living on my college campus?

>>4913244
Imagine a homeless man suffering and starving while everyone laughs because its cute how he survives off handouts and by sheltering himself with cardboard

Thats "community cats"

Need some advice.
>Cat comes up to me for breakfast
>Pat him up to his tail as I usually do
>feel something in his tail
>His tail is fluffy as fuck, think he's just accidently gotten poop in his tail
>Take him to the bathroom
>It's not against his skin, cut it out
>he yelps a bit
>check the spot I cut, no bleeding - think maybe I pulled a little hard
>look at what I cut out
>can feel liquid moving as I squish it
>cut it in half
>cloudy dark blood comes out
>wash the fur off
>can't get it off, pulling it off is doing nothing
>from what I can feel whatever I cut out felt slug-like and was the right size but I wasn't aware slugs bled like that
>seemed too big to be a tick
>feel over cat, nothing else like it and he's fine
>he's up to date on all shots, flea/worm and such treatment
Anyone have any ideas as to what I might have pulled off him? Sorry for no pics, happened when I first woke up and I flushed it down the toilet after I failed to get the fur off it

>>4913260
kind of sounds like a leech

>>4911358
This might sound retarded, but leave the younger male cat outside for a few days. He'll change his territorial macho bullshit once he knows he's roughing it in the outdoors

>>4913276
It certainly seemed leech-ish, but I live in suburban Australia and there's literally nothing like that where I live - which is what's made this all the more puzzling.

He's still full of beans and doesn't mind me touching where I cut it off so I'm hoping he'll be fine.

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>>4913231
Hey man, lazy saturday aint it

Please help.
On Thursday my cat threw up about 4-5 times in the span of 3 hours or so including bile. The doctor said to just give her some light food like cooked chicken and cottage cheese. She hasn't vomited since then, thank God, but she doesn't eat any of the food she ate earlier. Now it's just cooked chicken and tuna. She'd get deficient in some things if she continues like that, right? Usually she really loves new, regular cat food for like a month, then vomits and refuses to eat it again. I've tried so many things (i.e. without grains, and without added sugar, monoprotein). What should I give her? Any tips? She's a 15yo neutered cat.

>>4913305
...are you cleaning the food bowl

>>4913321
Yes, of course

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Hey friends, last week my father unexpectedly passed away and left behind a small 4 year old female cat. Me being a absolute dumbass and having lost my last very elderly rat recently aswell decided to take her in very quickly.
Being completely unprepared and poor as fuck at the moment Im working up a list of things to get her as soon as I can and I'm wondering what I should get other than beds, cat trees and toys?
Also seems like she has been a bit stressed out having suddenly moved in with me so she has already peed in my bed and also hopped onto my desk and started swatting at me completely unprovoked which has been pretty demoralizing.
Any good advice on what I can do to make her not do those things and get more adjusted here or is it just a matter of time?

>>4913355
keep your house relatively quiet and calm and give her space to figure everything out. she'll adapt within a few weeks.

prob best to keep her food, litter box, bed, toys etc. the same as the ones she had at your dad's.

>>4913041
an update for anyone who cares - she woke up this morning was is literally just back to normal.
teenager phase, i guess.

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>>4912883
The manager/owner/landlord of that independent living place does not want an apartment condemned from cat piss and shit, nor do they want an elderly person that requires a higher level of care to be there and potentially hurt themselves and get the assisted living place sued. It is not uncommon for these places to more or less kick people out to higher care (happened to a few of my relatives).
Who knows, in a higher level of care he may be able to even keep his cat, and they can help him with his cat care.
>she was 8 or 9 at that time
If the age was an estimate, I would take that with a huge grain of salt. It gets hard to tell an accurate age once they hit adulthood, and even harder when they are seniors because they can have teeth/gum disease that makes them look older, or have really good looking teeth/gums that make them look younger. Still the cat shouldn't be in that state, but the age could be anywhere from a 7y/o cat with bad dental disease to an 18y/o cat that had some great genes.
>>4912985
That's always fun. I usually have to get really large litter boxes, and if that doesn't work a box with really high sides - you still have to clean piss and shit off the sides so it isn't a perfect solution, but better than cleaning it off walls and floors.
>>4913041
>>4913493
Good to hear. Cats are kind autistic, sometimes shit sets them off that we aren't even aware of. FWIW it's not an emergency vet condition - if you're going to the E-Vet, your cat should be dying. Otherwise you'll be triaged and waiting until your cat is dying, or it's normal business hours and you can make an appt with your regular vet.
>>4913151
Your new kitten did NOT cause megacolon and arthritis. Now if your cat maybe got pneumonia or something, a case could be made that the stress of the new kitten could have lowered immune system. Both of those issues are age related. Megacolon tends to make them not want to eat, not eating causes fatty liver. Death comes to us all. I'm sorry.

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>>4913156
If the back legs are actually stiff, it sounds like it needs to be put down. I mean, I lived in a very well-off area and cats with that condition in rich homes were euthanized because it was quite literally inhumane to let them live. So maybe that NGO (idk what that is) might be the best for him. There's a lot of different things it could be, like tetanus or femoral hypoplasia, or severe artritus, or old trauma, but nothing I can think of is going to be fixable.
I know we think euthanasia is the worst that can happen, but it is a painless death. There's a lot worse ways to live and die.
>>4913260
Dog ticks can get pretty big, but likely not what you'd consider slug size. Cutebera can sometimes get big but I hate them so much I am not double checking how large they can get. Leech like another anon mentioned, but it seems odd behavior for both cat and leech (cat would have to be hanging out in still water)
whatever it was it sounds fucking disgusting and I really don't want to think about it much longer.
>>4913305
dry or wet food? limited ingredient diet? Is she eating fast at all? I hate to even mention it because its a fortune, but there's a prescription diet for sensitive stomachs that is limited ingredient. What does your vet think about this?
>>4913355
I usually lock cats in a single room for a few weeks until they get used to me, their litter box, their food, etc. Giving them free range of an entire house can be very scary. Keep to a routine; if you feed her at 7am and 7pm, try to keep roughly to that schedule. Scoop the litter box daily, and dump the litter and clean the box out weekly at least.
Cats are autistic and tend to despise change. She just had a huge change that she doesn't understand. The person who she is around has changed, her environment has changed, her routine has changed. Basically her whole world has changed overnight. Just like a kid with 'tism, she's likely to lash out. Try not to let it get to you too much. Sorry for your loss.

>kept chasing cats out of room while I was getting it cat proofed
>now they flee from me
oh noo come back

>>4913255
>Imagine
I see that all the time in the big city

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After over 30 months of constant vet visits, including a daily 84-day course of painful injections to treat her for neuro-oculear FIP, 4 failed eye removal surgeries and countless sleepless nights for both of us filled with yelling and door scratching/banging due to not being allowed to get her spayed until June of this year, I can happily say that my second cat has finally gotten the all clear. She'll be 3 years old next month.

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>mndardardardardardarden yuyardenmwanyuooooyayarden
Why do cats make this weird noise when theyre scared or confused? Whats the purpose?

>>4913705
Its just like dogs grumbling and whining but it sounds dumb

>>4913609
>493
yeah i had an appt booked at a normal vet for monday

>>4913705
They are speaking the old dead languages to ward off dangers from the veil but it just sounds like weird gibberish to us.

>>4911284
You're extra disgusting.

How bad an idea is it to get a cat if you're sniffles- and itchy eyes-tier allergic? I know four people who claim they lost their allergies after owning a cat, plus I've noticed I react to different degrees to different individual cats.

Would a shelter let me take one home to try? Do I have to get a hypoallergenic purebred?

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She was being a little pest and climbing all over my laptop keyboard

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>>4913705
If it makes people feel uneasy, it is a pretty good tactic to making other animals scared.
>>4913821
Hello fellow slightly-allergic-but-not-enough-to-take-meds anon.
The allergen that causes most reactions to cats is caused by a protein called fel-d-1 that the cat's body makes. It is often secreted in the saliva and skin oils but is present in many bodily fluids like shit and piss too. So it's all over them.
>I react to different degrees to different individual cat
That's because different cats will produce varying amounts of fel-d-1. Some cats produce more than average, some cats produce less than average. So people will find that some cats set off their allergies, while others do not.
>Do I have to get a hypoallergenic purebred?
There is no hypoallergenic cat (or dog; same shit but replace fel-d-1 with can-f-1). No breed so far has reputably tested to produce less fel-d-1 on average than any other purebred or moggie. The production is completely a gamble; kittens in the same litter will vastly differ in production. Parents with low production can create a litter with high production, etc. There is no breed that produces none, because fel-d-1 is necessary for cellular functions. Breeders that claim their breed is hypoallergenic are just being salesmen for their breed, because claiming a breed is hypoallergenic increases sales.
>Would a shelter let me take one home to try?
They call it Foster to Adopt, and it's fairly common in private shelters/rescues. You'd probably be hard pressed to find a municipal shelter/pound willing to do this though as they are more looking to get animals out the door. You might also want to consider looking into cats that are in foster homes; a cat around fewer other cats will hopefully give you a more realistic idea of what you can expect allergy-wise. If it's really hard to find a cat that fits for you, you might even want to consider just being a foster for URI cats (generally 2w foster) till you find a keeper.

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>>4913821
That would depend on the severity of your allergy. If you're the type that feels immediate discomfort from being around a cat, you're not going to get away with owning one without taking allergy meds, and even then I'd rather not.

If it's more like "stay at a friend's house for a few days and feel stuffy in the morning because of their cat" you can suffer like the rest of us mildly allergic cat owners just fine.

>>4913619
>dry or wet food?
She actually only eats wet food with the occasional dry snack.
>limited ingredient diet?
I don't know if she has any allergies. I'm just trying different things.
>Is she eating fast at all?
Regular speed I'd say.
>I hate to even mention it because its a fortune, but there's a prescription diet for sensitive stomachs that is limited ingredient.
My vet gave me some Hill's prescription dry food and she liked that for a while, but like always she just stopped eating it after a while.
>What does your vet think about this?
I've talked quite often with her about it. She just says that that can happen when they're older and that I should just try different things like tuna, shrimps, cooked chicken, beef etc. but that doesn't really help me.

I vomit a little when someone calls a cat a moggie, because it implies that something else like a dog is the mogger. Where did this anti-cat redditism come from? r/wehatecatshere?

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>bought some catnipt from amazon
>sprinkle it on the ground just to see how my cats react
>they both walk up and eat it then just walk away
idk what kinda reaction i was expecting, but i didn't expect em to eat it up like a treat

>>4913987
It makes people laugh though

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>>4914039
yeah, just straight up eating it is a pretty common one.
>>4914019
'moggy' has been around since forever and refers to any non-pedigree cat. it pre-dates 'mogged/mog' and is unrelated

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>>4914194
This. There's also that children's book series about a cat named mog that I loved growing up

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My cat keeps trying to pull my carpet out. I got her three different material towers, anti-claw spray, calming spray, a ton of toys, and play with her twice a day. Nothing works, she keeps doing it, especially when I'm back home from work. I ended up using Liquid Nail for a few spots but that doesn't stop her from attempting the same few spots every time.

Also a bit of a tangent, my previous house owners did a fucking horrible job laying this carpet out. There's so many seams with zero threshold or crownings so my cat easily lifts up the damn things. I have to clean up their dumb ass mess along with this mortgage. Can't afford carpet layers, their labor alone costs too much.

How do I stop her? Shelter estimated she was two years old but the vet claims one year. I'm going to bring her to a new vet tomorrow but I honestly doubt they're going to do anything, the last one didn't.

>>4914281
This advice doesn't do you any good, anon (Sorry) but for anyone else out there looking to get a cat, this is a good time to point this out: if you're planning to get a cat, just not having carpet at all is the best option if it's an option. We ended up taking most of ours out over the years for that reason and also because cats throw up a lot and over a long time you get sick of cleaning it off the floor. Or worse, you might have a cat that keeps wanting to pee on it, and let me tell you, that's not a smell you get out of carpet easy, if ever.

For you, though, anon, sorry. I guess you've already tried, like, those little cardboard corrugated pads? Something you can just set over the spots she messes with?

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>cat i adopted started to drool when cuddling
>google gives me multiple serious reasons as to why
>get paranoid and make an appointment
>go to the vet
>he tells me its just because he's happy

>>4914281
>I have to clean up their dumb ass mess along with this mortgage.
This is what happens when the market is so competitive that no buyer has the time to hire a good 3rd party inspector and everyone is bidding nearly sight unseen. It's so fucking stupid, and buying new is even worse.

>>4914294
>We ended up taking most of ours out over the years for that reason and also because cats throw up a lot and over a long time you get sick of cleaning it off the floor. Or worse, you might have a cat that keeps wanting to pee on it, and let me tell you, that's not a smell you get out of carpet easy, if ever.
It's insane how dishonest most cat owners are about stuff like this. Pets are messy and require responsibility. It's so fucking stupid that there are so many people telling everyone <x> is such a great pet because they're soooo much cleaner than <y>. They're not. They're all dirty. Even a fish tank can make a mess. Deal with it.

>>4914332
>your cat is happy
>that'll be $700

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>>4914039
I think something like a quarter to a half of cats don't even have the gene to react to catnip. But yeah I've had cats just eat it and walk away

>>4914017
Are you ever able to get her back on a food she's eaten and then refused before? I would think maybe having 3 brands around that she eats and switching between them might help. Maybe even the same foods, but different flavors of toppers? Getting bored of food is really common, but the vomiting is having me stumped. Is it possible she's getting bored of the food, eating less of it, then vomiting from an empty stomach?
>>4914281
She knows carpets are gay and is trying to help you out
There's not really anything a vet can do besides declaw her, which is really looked down on. I'm assuming the materials on the towers are like the carpet material? If not try that. Also if the prev O had any remnants of that carpet laying around, maybe try making that into a scratching pad. I am wondering if part of the reason she likes it is because it lifts it up, does some damage; having that effect can be mentally stimulating as well, kind of like how a dog might enjoy digging up the yard and have the 'progress' of a hole and dirt flinging everywhere.
Once you have a spot your cat does like to claw, then you start training her on not ripping up the carpet. To do this, you'll likely need to put her in another room or something when you're gone, because you can't observe and correct behavior when you're away. Carpets are hard because they cover a lot of ground that you'd also be stepping on, but basically you want the carpet to seem like a less desirable place to scratch. You can try putting tin foil over it, or the spikey sides of welcome mats, stuff that she won't like to step on.
You can also bring her to a groomer and get kitty caps put on which may help a little

>>4913821
Only low iq people do this

>>4913821
Shelters definitely will let you take one to try. I think that is pretty common because the alternative is you buy a cat and then find out and +1 to shelter

this is a weird q but why does my cat attack other people but not me? she will launch at my mum and my dog and not in a playful way because she's usually growling. but she will literally never just randomly bite me or attack me

Do calming collars work on hyperactive restless cats? My cat was being a nuisance last night. At 2 in the morning she kept trying to get onto my dresser drawer and was climbing all over my pillow and trying to move the frame I had to block her from getting on the drawer and knocking over my contact lens case. I had to push her off but she kept coming back up and every time she did she would start lashing her tail back and forth and hitting me in the face with it. I can't deal with this every night, and I have a play session with her before I go to bed at 10 so it's not like she's under stimulated

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My cat looks like a russian noble lady in a big fur coat, ready to go to the opera in a winter Moscow night.
What are some cute russian names for a female cat? I've had her for 3 months I still can't come up with a good name, I just call her "sorcio" which means rat in italian lol

my cat has been throwing up foam the whole day, doesn't want to eat anything and seems very lethargic. what the hell can i do? it's too late too go to a vet and she seems worse

>>4914451
Just lock her out of your room. She will get used to it.

>>4911274
do cats even care for tomatoes?

>>4914549
Name her La Cata Alrata

>>4914593
no, they dig them up and kill them with pee. no one has ever successfully taught a cat to care for plants.

>>4914549
beautiful kot russian bro.

>>4914571
she has an upset tummy

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>>4914605
is it normal? i've tried to give her many different foods, from chicken and livers she always eats to ham she shouldn't have but loves so much. she won't eat and has vomited few hours ago. it's 4am and i'm staying awake cause im scared she's gonna die or something. i seriously love her i think i might kill myself if she dies i'm so scared now she's just sleeping by me i hope she's fine tomorrow

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>ask my cat if she's ready for bed
>she climbs out of her cat tree and leads me to the bedroom
:D
>she jumps out of bed to get her toy, brought it back onto the bed and is currently jumping all over me trying to get me to play with her
:/
walnut brain strikes again

>>4914645
usually she's like a purring mashine as soon as i pick her up or touch her but now she hasn't purred at all in over a day, this makes me really worried

been giving her water through a syringe cause i cant think of another way to help, she seems to be drinking it

>>4914645
>>4914650
>>4914653
Hoping for the best, anon, wish I had more to offer. Normally a cat upchucking is just a thing they do a lot, but it sounds like, at best, she got into something she shouldn't have. Fingers crossed it's not anything too serious but you'll still likely want to take her in when you can.

>>4914662
thanks man, i'm so tired yet seriously so scared to close my eyes, i keep checking on her, i want to sleep and she seem to be just sleeping too but im so scared to what I'll wake up to, i hope she'll be alright

>>4914669
>>4914667
I know it's rough, but having one bad night isn't necessarily the end of the world. Even it were a serious illness they don't tend to go from fine to dead in a day. One of our cats used to be an outdoor cat that just started hanging around our house when her old owner got sick, and sort of just decided she was ours. At some point she didn't show up for a while and eventually dragged herself in looking like shit - apparently another cat had bit her and it'd gotten infected. We got her to the vet and they treated her but it took a lot of medication and shaving her hind leg basically. It was a hell of a time for her, she couldn't even get comfortable to lay down and sleep, either because the shaved limb made it feel weird or it hurt, we're not sure which. I ended up sitting with her at a table and laying my head down to take a nap while keeping an arm on her, to give her some kind of steadying comforting feeling. It actually managed to work, and she managed to finally get some sleep. We keep her in now, and she doesn't even want to go out again. She's also gone from being an aloof streetwise punk to a big old softie who yowls in the hallway when she thinks she's alone.

I tell you that story to tell you animals are a little more durable than you may be giving them credit for, but I also remembered that there's a 24/7 vet clinic somewhere around here, so they do exist. Maybe not a full on vet but some kind of basically emergency clinic for animals. Just something to consider if you're really still up and that wracked with worry. But you won't do her any good if you stay up all night fretting, so if there isn't a clinic, you'd do the most good getting to bed and getting up early to get her in when they open.

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>>4914332
my cat drools when she's really enjoying being petted. then she sneezes and sprays it everywhere...

>>4914701
Wow, mine too. I just never thought of it beyond "oh he's drooling again"

i think my cat has brain damage

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>>4914439
Fear?
>>4914451
The ones that use pheromones do work, but not on a scale that you are likely going to notice.
> I have a play session with her before I go to bed
Can you do this earlier than right before bed? She might be getting hyped up.
>>4914549
Natasha? Anastasia? Alundra? idk if they are even russian
>>4914571
Try feeding Churu or a baby food without garlic or onion?
Ultimately an ER vet would likely triage your cat until it's in worse condition anyways.
>>4914646
nice one-eyed cat
>>4914332
tbf it's probably a good idea to get established at a vet anyways

my cat started to make fighter pilot noises when i rubbed her ears what does that mean?

>>4912883
>So he's not really getting abused

it is possible for a person (typically elderly) to neglect himself, which is a form of 'abuse'. i'd report it, all the same. it's not like he'll get in legal trouble for neglecting himself, but he might end up getting the help he needs.
you may consider speaking with your employer about it. just tell them you're concerned the resident isn't taking care of his own needs properly. doubtlessly, they have protocols in place for that sort of thing.
>>4913634
make it a game
when they start fleeing from you, turn around and flee from them. duck around corners, poke your head/hand/foot out, make noises like a scared animal (ooooo, eeeeeek, etc)

>>4914549
Svetlana sounds right

>>4914906
>doubtlessly, they have protocols in place for that sort of thing
They do, but the director would be suspicious if I complained about his place since I already complained about his cat, and the last time a coworker reported the condition of his apt to my supervisor he got really pissed and refused to talk or see that coworker. Also it's up to his family what they do with him as well. I actually saw the cat today since I had the opportunity and thought oh maybe they talked to him and got him to take her to the vet, but he didn't, she's in the exact same shape. I even asked the guy when I saw him in the hallway how the cat was and he said "oh she's good". She is not good, she's still dirty and sick. My heart breaks for her, but I think I've done all I can do without overstepping boundaries

>>4914662
>>4914679
>>4914873
she's vomited way less today but still wont eat and barely moves. just sits in one place. i made kind of a chicken broth that i've been giving her through a syringe. i'm broke as fuck but if she doesn't get better by tomorrow ill have to use all my money for a vet. im scared they wont do much, cause vets around here are shit but ill just hope for the best

>>4914701
Same. On both cases. It's very gross, but I love him too much to judge my drooling retard for it. I just wish he wouldn't do it when he's sitting on my shoulders.

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Anyone else get wild and wacky cat foods for their adorable fur babies? These were like 70 cents each at grocery outlet. She loved the tuna and olive recipe, so I decided to grab this one. She loved it.

Birdie and Louie brand.

>>4915018
What's the point of the pineapple? Cats can't digest plant matter or taste sweetness

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>>4914964
Vets can't do much if you don't have money. I imagine what they would first want to do is bloodwork to rule out major organ failures or hints thereof, and it might be able to show you if there's an infection. If it is the latter, there may be a few more questions to answer though or you can just do a best guess to treat it.
They may also want to do an xray to rule out foreign bodies. Cats are especially prone to getting linear foreign bodies, which is when they eat long stuff like string and yarn. xrays may also show issues like megacolon, some cancers, etc.
If you really have next to no money, you can say a prayer and do 0 diagnostics and just try steroids and antibiotics. It may not help though.
I'd recommend signing up for something like care credit in advance. Might want to look into pet insurance - I used to advise against pet insurance, but with the vet shortage and general price increase and stagnant wages, it's actually becoming a more viable option.

>>4915018
Yeah sometimes with fosters I'll get something bougie like tiki cat or weruva.

>>4915045
They are high in fiber, which can help with cats that have bowl issues exacerbated by high protein diets. They also have vitamins and nutrients that cats can utilize. However you're right in that they are really sweet, and you have to watch out with that high sugar content.
Lots of cats enjoy fruit actually, I'm assuming the texture and high water content makes it interesting and refreshing.
>>4914889
I think that he enjoys it? I'm not sure what a fighter pilot noise is tbdesu

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>>4915071
>>4915045
I think there's like 2-4 small pieces in each can. She ate them, so I'm happy.

If you have a grocery outlet close by I would recommend checking it out for the cat food. They usually have good stuff for very cheap. Really good prices on toppers and "full meal" canned foods. One time they had something like 6 or 9 for a dollar cans/packs of non-shit cat food. Fed her for a couple months for like 6 bucks lol.

>>4915071
vets here are shit like i've said. i dunno if they even have an x-ray. my grandmother went to like 3 different ones with her dog and it seemed like besides bloodwork they were all just guessing and her dog died anyway but fuck i need to do something or i wont forgive myself. she seems worse, no vomiting in quite a while but she's barely even opening her eyes. i seriously cant think of a thing that would happen to her, cant think of anything she could have swallowed, we don't have any plants that'd be bad for her etc. it all came out of nowhere crashing down. also im currently staying at my grandma's in poland, i dunno if they even have a pet insurance thing here

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what's up with his eye??

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>>4915146
uhh nevermind he just blinked it away...

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I have this problem. See I'm interested in getting a cat because they can use a litterbox and be independent to a greater degree than dogs can and was thinking of getting a cat for my apartment.

But I've noticed that cats and their demeanor seem to be "luck of the draw." Sometimes you get sweet cuddly cats, sometimes you get total cunts, and unlike Dogs where you -generally- can train them to be good, for cats whether they're a cunt or not seems to be a flip of a coin.

Now I must say ALL CATS like me - they're drawn to me for some reason and all rub against my leg and slow blink at me and shit - but half the cats I meet will purr and lean into me when I pet them and the other half will bite and scratch, with seemingly no warning signs as to what they'll do.

Is there any cat breed known for being friendly and cuddly? Oh and I don't plan on having an "outdoor" cat because I live in a bear and hawk infested area

>>4915182
Don’t focus on particular breeds. Just expose yourself to cats until you find one you really like. Or one will find you.

I mean, not expose yourself in the lewd way, you know what I meant.

>>4915211
I'm not Shiki Tohno the Kots are safe with me. Assuming I don't strangle one for biting me immediately after purring and slow blinking at me for twenty five minutes

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>>4915146
>>4915147
>blinks it away
ngl i was not prepared for that. The fuck. There are some crazy things that can happen with the eye though pic related is genetic and as far as I know doesn't have any issues associated.
>>4915182
>with seemingly no warning signs
Ah that is overstimulation. Basically, cat autism. Just like an autistic kid, some cats will get overstimulated even by doing something they enjoy, and then lash out one second, and then be totally fine the next moment. Not all cats do this. There is usually a sign they are getting overstimulated, but in autistic cat nature, they move through those signs so fast it is hard to notice, and could even be too late to do anything once you do notice.
>Is there any cat breed known for being friendly and cuddly?
I would take that with a giant grain of salt. For example ragdolls are probably the most well known affectionate breed. If you talk to ragdoll owners though, you'll find that it's pretty split on whether their cats are lovey dovey, or prefer to be crazy active and playful instead.
If it means a lot to you, I'd suggest looking at adult cats (1-2y min) and probably ones that have been in foster homes so you don't have to deal with the decompression stage to find out the cat isn't as affectionate as you want. Let them know you would prefer to have a cat that doesn't easily get overstimulated by petting/brushing.

>>4915182
>cats can be independent
I hope you mean in the lizard not needing social interaction way and not in the teenager driving across town way

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>>4911274
What is your go to cat toys? I’m trying to get something interactive for my /k/at

>>4915275
A large feather.

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>>4915182
Kittens can imprint on humans. If you really want a cat that will obnoxiously and lovingly bother you all the time when it isn't sleeping or eating, get a newborn kitten that isn't nursing.

For more success, get the runt of the litter. Let it sleep on your back while you play vidya on your bed and it'll be a lifelong friend. Be aware of kitten problems that can kill it, such as anemia from fleas, especially this season.

If you don't go the kitten route, you can find a great cat bud just the same at a shelter or your local mexicans on the side of the road. Tortoiseshells are among the sweetest cats (to humans) in my experience and come in LOUD and quiet versions. They are aggressive hunters though so keep them indoors unless you want to to kill the local biosphere. They also don't like being picked up at all, they'll respect your space unless you are laying down to sleep.

>>4914610
I only ever see tabby cats do that thing with their arms extended. We call it stretchycat.

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>>4915296
>They also don't like being picked up at all
My new tortie cat doesn't mind being picked up, but does get fidgety after a while
She also wants constant attention from me, but gets bothered when I try to pet her for more than 2 seconds and moves away. She's a strange one

>>4911274
Anyone know where I can get some amoxicillin tablets online? I’m pretty sure my cat has a UTI and I don’t feel like paying $300 to be told what I already know

My cat have been weirdly hostile those past few days. She's been clawing and biting very quickly with little warning, even when she originally asked for attention/petting.
The saving grace for me is that she give me enough room to notice her clearly being in a shitty mood and retract, but with visitors she snaps instantly.

>>4915353
Pet for poor people

>>4915390
I’m not paying $300 for amoxicillin tabs

>>4915147
lmao

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>>4913255
>>4913636
It's interesting, the ones I meet on the street almost always look sad and miserable, even if they are well fed.

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>>4915496

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>>4915498
But the ones I meet in large forest parks give off a different vibe, they are not cheerful by any means, but neither they are sad or pathetic.

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>>4915500

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>>4915501
Even when you stumble upon one in the dark forest and scare the poor thing, it looks determined rather than pathetic.

>>4915496
it's possible they've learned that people feed them more often if they look like sad sacks

So a few weeks ago my two cats got outside while it was cold and came back in with sneezing and diarrhea. It has been three weeks and the sneezing is gone but they still seem to have upset stomachs. They are eating normally, drinking plenty, and playing too, but are farting a lot and while one cat's diarrhea is getting slightly better, the other one (who has always had stomach issues to be fair) is taking longer. Also I've noticed when they're laying down sometimes it will seem like their stomach spasms a bit? At first I thought it was farting but there was no smell, and both of them are doing it. Doing some googling the only thing I could determine is maybe it's gastritis? Either way, what do you guys think?

>>4915524
Would add that I would go to a vet but I'm tight on money right now and they're eating and drinking plenty so I'm not too worried. If they were not eating or drinking it would be vet asap, trust me.

>>4915496
Aw he does look sad, he looks like he needs a hug
>>4915501
Oh that one's beautiful, what a pretty orange coat and amber eyes
What state or country are you from?

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I took my car to the vet today for her first checkup since I adopted her and she was all ok except she has luxating patella in her back legs. She always had her back feet pointing outwards like duck feet and inquired about it. I guess that explains why she doesn't jump often. I'm worried that she'll become lame and need surgery in the future, but the vet said to wait it put since she can still walk and run and suggested getting her joint supplements. I really hope she doesn't get worse

>Just found a lump on my 6 year old kitten's belly
Didn't feel it earlier today when petting her belly, vet not open till Monday. I'm worried anons.

>>4915663
Sorry, 6 month old, not year

>>4915526
You can always give them a call (for free) and ask what the best course of action would be. Are vets really expensive where you are?

>>4915390
But enough about dogs

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>>4914610

>>>/mu/124689572
>>>/mu/124698370

>>4915524
>>4915526
Worms.

>>4915656
Build her like a ramp so she doesn't have to jump to get around.
This is good advice even if your cat doesn't have any kind of problems, those joints evolved to get around in dirt and leaves in the forest.
>>4915663
What kind of lump? Soft, hard? Did she react when you touched it? Hope she's OK, anon

>>4915718
I already bought a little ramp for her this week, she has yet to use it tho.

>>4915669
My cat was free and I spend like 1 dollar per day on food for her.

My dog was very expensive and I spend like 4-5 dollars per day feeding him.

>>4915747
You get what you pay for desu

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>>4915748
They're both the best cat and best dog I have ever known. I only feed my cat wet food and I get good quality cans for cheap from grocery outlet. I got super lucky finding my free cat, BUT if she wasn't super confident and amazing I would not have been able to carry her back to my house and save her life from angry livestock guardian dogs.

>>4915792
she is wearing socks

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>>4915823
Yes. Technically socks are a breed flaw for siamese, but no one seems to mind.

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>>4915823
She is sort of a menace, but not too bad.

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>>4915644
Russia.

Why did you assholes report me about my animal abuse confession thread last month? Are we just supposed to not talk about these things?

Neighbor cat keeps getting out and coming over. He's cool. Tired of the women sending him back. Next time he's here I think I'm just gonna treat him like my own indoor-outdoor cat. Let him come and go and hang out as he wants.

>>4915018
No, I don't trust any of that "holistic" bullshit, no telling what those psychos actually put in it
Fancy Feast™ Original Pâté only

>>4915146
It's amazing how animals really don't seem to give a shit there's something in their eye
Like maybe a minor annoyance at best, meanwhile we get one rogue lash and its fucking D-Day on your cornea

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>watch video about newborn kittens
>remember when my kitten was barely a week old
>no she's an adult and also fat and retarded

>>4915667
Vets aren't very expensive but due to my job I have to be very saving during the holiday season. Since both of them started sneezing and having diarrhea at the same time I figured it was just the usual upper respiratory infection from the seasons changing and would pass, and googling says the vet can't do much in this situation.
>>4915716
I thought about this too, and I will for sure give them tapeworm medication. I have them on Revolution Plus to take care of other worms thankfully. I checked their litter box and one of the cats is having very solid poop now, while the other one (one that has always had stomach issues) is still recovering slower but getting better day by day it seems. I have ordered some probiotics to put in their food since I was able to get a $10 discount on fortiflora. I noticed them sneeze some earlier which is sad but it's still very rare. (Sorry, basically using this as a blog I guess, just worried and feel like a bad owner)

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>cat constantly sneezing since i got her last month
>go to three vets
>one had dementia and barely made any sense
>second said it's normal for cats to sneeze
>before the third vet she starts sneezing blood
>see third vet twice
>she goes to the conclusion that it's just "sinuses" and that it's "normal"
>she's bleeding every fucking day and somehow this is fucking normal
>used up all my money, almost capped out my card over this fucking cat, no idea what the fuck to do
What the actual fuck is wrong with veterinarians in 2024? What the fuck do I do now?

>>4916171
ask chatgpt idk

>>4916171
>went broke over a dying cat
Lo
Soon you will realize why oldfags likED cats, but no longer

They drop easier than budgies and are even cheaper to replace

>>4916176
>Soon you will realize why oldfags likED cats
what does this even mean

>>4916178
In 2007 our parents paid the vet bills and cleaned up the puke

No longer

>>4915388
Check for signs of fleas, they make some cats mad and grumpy (understandably).

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I saved his life
The Price? His balls

>>4916184
look at this smug motherfucker

>>4916182
why would you call parents oldfags
anyways yeah i'm done with the vet, useless fucks

>>4916171
Okay how about this, maybe try getting a humidifier or something. Maybe the air in your house is too dry? Idk. It's a fucking guess from a non-medical person who has sinus troubles.

>>4916184
Easy trade. It's like when you grow out of puberty and realize hey, I can just do whatever the fuck I want instead of looking to get laid all the time.

>>4916196
>smug
he's high on ketamine wondering where did his scrotum go

>>4916200
i'll try this, any recommendations

>last few weeks noticing less pee in the cat litter when I scoop it
>hmm, I hope there isn't a medical issue-
>catch cat pissing in the bathroom sink
>right down the drain
Idk whether to be mad or not

>>4916259
I don't know any in particular (I don't use any myself I just use claritin) but after looking through Google it backs up my suggestion of humidifier... or it did, if the cat were just sneezing all the damn time. The blood thing seems to complicate it. Adding that in gets me a lot of suggestions that it might be a respiratory infection. And a lot of them say take the cat to the vet, which... didn't really work that great for you, unfortunately. So I guess if the budget isn't in it to roll for one more try on the vet while going in with some research done on the possible causes, making clear to them just how frequently it's happening, I guess a humidifier is the more affordable option.

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/the-best-humidifier/
Don't take my word for it and don't take their word for it either, just offering this as a skimmed check on options, but the $50 one here is on the more cheap end and sounds reasonable enough. I saw some other more cheap ones but I'm assuming they're not for house coverage so much as maybe room coverage or general vicinity. And maybe this one is too, idk. Sorry man, I'm not that deep into it.

>>4916264
Well, I'd be impressed, anyway. If it doesn't make the thing stink then just rinse it through every now and then I guess.

>>4914964
it's all fucking over. the vets said its leukemia and probably wont make it through the night. im a fucking mess. would never expect fucking cancer of all things, she was fine few days ago i swear to god thought she made have ate something bad at most

>>4916273
i've fucked up my knuckles by punching a drawer, i can barely see throughbthe tears, i don't have anyone to talk to, i feel like shit

>>4916273
>>4916289
It never gets easier, anon. I know 4chan ain't the most hospitable place but almost everyone in this thread knows how it feels to go through something like that. I had a cat who didn't even make it to one year old and he got fucked up by feline aids. Little bastard would climb up into my arms to be held like a fucking baby, wormed around under my sheets like a weasel to sleep at night, him and his brother.

Times like this all you can really do is be there for them, man. It's fucking awful but you're gonna have to keep going.

>>4916298
4chan is unironically my "safe place". even on other boards i got support despite posting offtopic shit cause i just couldn't help myself , i needed someone to talk and i don't really have any friends. i'm sorry man and i feel you. mine isn't even one year old either. i can't stop thinking how its just a baby. she was the same, always in my arms, always following me, always next to me. i'm punching shit, i wanna hurt myself i hate that i cant do anything

>>4916301
Don't hurt yourself anon, that doesn't do anyone any good. Even being upset like that is counter-productive. I know you can't help how you feel, but the best thing you can do for her at this point is help her be happy and comfortable as you can.

A year is shorter than it ever should have been, and it's a fucking tragedy, but cats by nature live much shorter lives than we do. In most cases you're lucky to get twelve years out of them. I've also had a couple live to be 18. That other cat's brother, not from the same mother, one was black and the other was white, the white one's lived about ten more years than he did. Of course, he's likely on the decline now, he won't eat most foods we try to give him despite clearly being hungry and looking for us to give him food, but he'll always eat treats. He's almost completely normal otherwise, and we got him a big santa sled bed for him to sleep in because he's always loved cuddling santa hats and christmas stuff (we joke that the white fringe on a santa hat reminds him of his mom).

He's already lived longer than they expected him to, but all we can do is make sure he's happy. Maybe it's easier when you can't see the decline as vividly, and who the fuck knows, he could be collapsing the next day. But it won't be the end of everything. I just want to convey that to you. I've lived long enough to be on a second or third generation of cats at this point, depending where you start. I've always had at least one in my life. It always hurts to lose one but that doesn't have to be the end. You can keep going. You'll be okay, anon.

>>4914549
Olga, Nadia and my favorite Kalinka like the song

>>4912835
You need to take that cat to a vet if you want her to live

>>4913255
Community cats are beloved by people who want cats but live in a place where pets aren't allowed, he just needs to have a cat bed provided for him and a few toys and games

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>>4916265
thanks. he just started bleeding again. it's not dripping or anything, just a small red line right underneath her nose. i'll buy one tomorrow. if that doesn't do anything i'm simply just going to ignore it since the vets won't do shit

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>>4915275
String, the plastic bits off milk jugs, cardboard box fort, a hand under a blanket

>>4915296
>get a newborn kitten
Noooooo you get "Lone kitten syndrome' ie a kitten that will bite and scratch a lot. If you go this route you need at least two and pray that one doesn't die.
Not to be confused with 'single kitten syndrome'
>>4915388
Is this sudden? How old? Usually a sudden change in behavior has me worried that the animal in in pain.

>>4915524
Gastritis is just a symptom; Gastro, the organ it is affecting, and -itis, inflammation.
Deworming might be helpful if nothing else, but if your cat generally has a sensitive stomach, it may also just take longer for them to get back to normal. Who knows what they were eating, and then they had to suddenly switch. It could also be a stress colitis as well.
If you get a dewormer, save yourself some money and don't bother with the herbal shit. Not all worms are visible with the naked eye, and at just 2 weeks most worms will not be shedding in feces anyhow. Common ones are Hookworm, Roundworm (use Pyrantel) and Tapeworm (needs Praziquantel). Do not try to skimp on dose, it can create a drug resistance. They need to be re-dosed as well, since the worms might migrate out of the gut and come back a few weeks later.
>>4915656
Get a good quality supplement, best to start early anyways.
>>4915663
>Lump
you're safe to wait till monday, it may just be a hernia.
>>4915872
I am really enjoying these photos
>>4916133
If it is getting slowly better, I'd honestly skip the vet anon. I know money is tight, no need to stress your cat and your wallet out.

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>>4916171
You guys know you can report vets to the state boards, right? It is one thing if you deny all diagnostics and treatments, or refuse to pay, etc. But if they send your animal home multiple times saying a deadly issue is fine, severely mis-diagnose, etc, they can get a suspension for that. It can also open up further investigations that can lead to getting their license taken away entirely.
Second, I've noticed rural and old timey vets are really not cat savvy. Great with dogs, shit with cats. Not all of them, but that is my experience. I can generally go to any old vet and they will be great and thorough with dogs, and then flippant about cats.
I suggest looking into hospitals that are AAHA accredited - they have to follow some base guidelines and that makes them a bit more reputable. Cat-only clinics are great, but I find a lot of owners feel that cat-only clinics are a little too much in terms of really high standard of care, and they tend to be expensive.
Did your cat get tested fir FIV/FeLV? Did you get any blood tests done, and if so how were WBC levels? Any x-rays? When I hear bloody sneezing, my concerns run to common diseases and polyps in the nasal cavity. Of course I'm thinking like severe, blood snot, spraying like a squirt bottle bloody nose.
>>4916264
I'd be very concerned he's pissing in other places but man, that would be convenient.
>>4916273
I'm sorry anon, it's bad when it comes out of nowhere. She might not have been around for a long time, but she's had a good time with you.

>>4916467
>cat-only clinics are a little too much in terms of really high standard of care, and they tend to be expensive.
Looks like a resounding endorsement to me, money is no object in my case

Hey guys, a few months ago I got a stray kitten i picked up. She had parasites and a bad eye infection that left damage to her eyes. A lot of it cleared up after medicine and she's been decently healthy. Gave her some worm medicine and we stopped seeing it out of her back side, her stomach area was always a little thicker than her intestine area. She rarely ever meows, but today she's like pur meowing staying low walking and arching but butt up. Her stomach feels kind of bloated. And about half way down her back I could see it like contracting. She keeps rubbing onto fabric and even rolling onto her back. Last night she was acting a little weird, like wanting to be around people but laying down around the corner. She's still playful, but I've never seen a cat/kitten do that. I don't think she ate anything weird but she still gets scared and be out of sight. Today she's staying around us. Is it something I should be concerned about?
Sorry for the wall of text, but wanted to give some details.

Is your cat a greeting kisser? My boy licks my hand and bites my nose whenever I come home. It's so cute.

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I work in an animal shelter and met this kiddo at work. too bad he has ringworm

>>4916509
How old is she? they can go into heat as young as 4 months

>>4916614
Thank you anon, I think you're right. She's about 4 months at least, found her heading on four months now. I thought they would be larger when they started that.

>>4916672
yeah it can start super early. I work in shelters and the number of accident litters because people didnt realize their 4 month old kitten could get pregnant from their littermate is wild

my cat wakes up so freaking early. I open the door for her at 5am to leave the bed room and she just goes and does her thing for a few hours. then she gets her morning meal (tuna) when me or my mum gets up. it's kind of a cute routine desu

>>4916673
cats inbreed?

>>4916675
at an astonishing rate. it's how hoarder houses and feral cat colonies get so large so quickly

>>4916675
better your sister or mom than nobody, from an evolutionary perspective

evolution has good taste

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Is it normal for orange cats to become black as they grow up?

>>4916680
If they fall into a pile of coal sure

>>4916680
no comparison photo and depends what you mean by orange

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If you can remember the last few threads i talked about one of my cats needing teeth removal. That went without complications and he even ripped out the stitches on his own and everything looks fine. Its still a little irritating for him but he is much happier now. He purrs like before the teeth became a problem. Anyways i have now noticed that he does picrel to himself. In some cases the skin is bloody. I already plan on going to the vet with him hoping that its just some mites but wouldn't my other cats be also affected? What could have caused this? He is an older cat but his bloodwork came back showing a perfectly healthy cat. I thought the worst would be over by now.

>>4916733
what monthly parasite prevention are all your cats on?

>>4916745
>what monthly parasite prevention are all your cats on?
I don't know id have to ask my mother about it as she does that stuff but that coincidentally happened a a little after the vet visit. Its probably from there that he got something on his skin.

After the operation he had very clean eyes even though it hurt him but after some time he began tearing up a little. Also all my cats are strictly indoor cats. While i know stuff can still get in from the outside i think its notable.

>>4916748
well your most likely options come down to

>parasite such as fleas or ear mites
>overgrooming due to stress
>allergy

Im assuming the food he is eating has always been the same?

>>4916749
>Im assuming the food he is eating has always been the same?
Yes, while he eats more wet food now due to his teeth he still chomps on dry food aswell. He also likes the same stuff as always, meaning most land-meats and wet food.

>>4916750
then food allergy is unlikely, but environmental allergy is still possible

does he have any other spots of hair loss other than the one shown? does the area without hair appear flaky/crusty or is it smooth

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>>4916754
Its all around the neck area. Two out of three stops just feel like regular cat skin while the one spot that was bloody is harder now. This is very rapid and just a few days before it just looked like he groomed himself more than usual due to heating being turned on but now that the eyes are like they are i definitely think its mites or fleas he got from the vet.
With all of this happening he does not shy away from the brush and still loves it. He is a very grooming friendly cat but just does not like it when you touch these spots or the hair right along his spine(nerves getting sensitive?). The hair on his back is a little thicker and less dense than anywhere else on this body but even the vet noted that he has very dense and soft fur.

>>4916762
Oh and no flaky skin. Just a harder spot from coagulated blood. The spot does not make him act any differently than the others when touched.

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I love her so much!

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>>4916693
What she used to look like.

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>>4916693
What she used to look like.

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>>4916509
Have to agree with anon that rolling on the back and walking low is reminding me of their heat dance. If you are concerned of something like a FBO, watch food/water intake and keep an eye on the litterbox.

>>4916613
>RW
I remember first working at shelters 10y ago and that would have been a death sentence if they didn't have fosters same day.

>>4916680
>>4916798
Are you sure you haven't got your cats mixed up?
Cats can change color over time but generally we are seeing this with color points, fever coats, 'black tigers' that grow to black cats, vitiligo, and maybe some blending. But not a full on color change like that and so quickly.

>>4916733
ectoparasites like fleas, lice, and mites. Allergic reactions. Stress and anxiety. Even something like an abscess or something painful under the skin that the animal is trying to 'get' to and licking the hair off. Have you actually seen him lick it? Perhaps it is the angle but it looks like an area he couldn't actually reach

>>4916675
>>4916676
It's true, I believe the kitten I was asking about is born because of this. She doesn't act like any cat I've had before, she'll sit very awkwardly, like up and down like a person. It's like she squats. She rarely meows, and is really jumpy. After asking around I found out a neighbor up the road just let's a cat hoard stay outside of her house and the kittens were becoming so inbred that they all had severe health issues. I appreciate the questions answered, other sites is like pulling teeth getting answers.

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so my cats (black is resident, white is new) have finally started to get along and they're both out of isolation as of last week. I'm pretty sure they're play fighting, as I don't hear any vocalization from either of them when they start wrestling, although it feels kind of violent. The white one also will run away to my office with her tail down, and the black one won't always chase. I only see the white cat with her tail up if the black cat is asleep, so I'm worried she's getting stressed out. Also, she's super friendly with strangers but has been less so with me now that she's used to me. They both show signs of getting along (both sleeping in the same bed with me) but also some territorial behavior (fighting over who gets to sleep in the bed with me, waking me up). Thoughts?

>>4916799
that's not the same cat my dude

>>4916901
It'll probably even out over time, honestly. If they've got suitable space to avoid each other when not in the mood to scrap, they'll probably manage.

It sounds like they're on track, so I wouldn't worry too much. If anyone has any ideas to improve it, though, I'm sure there are ways. But it doesn't sound like something to fret too much about otherwise.

>>4916772
would

My cats have been misbehaving like crazy and I am about to turn them into outdoor cats (which likely means they'll be eaten by coyotes where I live). How do I discipline them? I have tried everything from spray bottles to shock collars to fly swatters. The main problem is they scratch up my furniture and get in my sink (always empty but they do it anyway).

One (the male) is worse than the other (the female). Male is 2 years old and female is 4 months; she is starting to pick up some of the male's bad habits.

I love them but this is ridiculous

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>>4917053
>The main problem is they scratch up my furniture
do you have scratching posts or those cardboard scratching things (picrel) for them?

>>4916772
Majestic creature

>>4916970
>>4916867
I only have 1 cat tho.

>>4917067
does your cat have outdoor access?

My cat just had double hip surgery bros... she is recovering in a big cage. She got a hospital acquired flu after she had it done, now she's recovered from that she is a bit happier but still can't walk (4 days post op). I just want her to be back to her spirited self again, catbros

>>4917115
no.

>>4916867
>Perhaps it is the angle but it looks like an area he couldn't actually reach
He uses his leg to scratch that part.

>>4917062
2 scratching posts but I'll try the cardboard thing. I need to get a cat tower but I am not sure it'll fit in my car.

We tried trimming their claws but they kept scratching the sofa even then. I always said I'd never declaw a cat but I see now why people do.

>>4917249
the problem is then a lot start pissing on everything or biting

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Dumbass question but I have five cats and I'm low on funds. I've heard people purchase anti flea collars like pic related, cut it in pieces and basically attach it to the regular collars of their cats.
Is that feasible? Is it dumb? Ineffective?

Is it furry to kiss your cat on the lips if you almost never use tongue

>>4917337
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>>4917303
I wish these posts were jokes but they probably arent

>>4917303
>>4917372
nah. declawed cats are infamous for litterbox issues and compensation aggression biting

>>4917372
Tell that to my parents who decided to have five cats on our home

One of my cats has started whining out of nowhere. She is usually pretty quiet, but all day today I've heard her doing a pathetic meow/whimper every few minutes. I was worried maybe she was in pain, but she had no reaction when I picked her up and prodded her. I'm worried she may have eaten something like she's prone to do, but I haven't noticed anything significant. I was worried that she maybe ate some of my artificial Christmas tree (which I since took down), but I didn't see any major chunks taken out of it. The only thing I can think of is that it's raining pretty hard today, which might be making her nervous? Any thoughts? Vet?

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I have a long-haired ginger female cat who's about 3 years old now. She has had some kind of physical disability all her life: she loses her balance easily and can't jump very high. Any time she climbs an object she exerts a lot of physical effort when it would be trivial for another cat (like the other I own).

This comes with the unfortunate side effect that she can't clean herself effectively. A lot of the time when she's trying to clear her sphincter/genital area she tips over, and suffice to say she could really do with a clean there.

Should I be handling this unpleasant task? And if so, how?
Or it it not worth bothering? Couldn't she develop an infection if dried feces build up too much?

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Hi /kot/, I just wanted to share mine. The black is female and named Anja, the grey tabby is male and aptly named Tabby. They're from the same litter that was rescued by a friend of mine. I took care of them when they were just about a week or so old, bottle fed them and everything. They used to fit in the palm of my hand, and not a bit over a year later, they're huge as fuck. I made sure to give them all the fancy expensive formula, food and vitamins so they could be nice and healthy without a mommy cat. Anja unfortunately has been packing on a lot of weight ever since I got them both fixed though, so I've been trying to diet her. It's just a pain in the ass having her brother demanding a normal diet alongside her.
The stuff on the cushion is just catnip with silvervine.