A thread for all birdbros to commiserate and unite against their common enemy.Official Thread Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjlW_GWuXys
>>4920196oh great, another zoottp thread>>4920211The real sides are foodist's and anti-foodists
How about not having zoosadism threads?
>>4920236How about catfags stop being whiney bitches?
>>4920236>nature is zoosadismQuick, someone post a webm of a komodo dragon eating something. Or that deer that eats a bird.
>janny deletes the post claiming that bird fucking zoophiles are controlling the console war, but not the console war OP featuring birds killing catsThis is all you need to know about console wars
>>4920382TOTAL BIRD DOMINATION
>>4920382Yes. A thread showing dogs killing cats would be gone instantly. If it’s birds killing cats the janny actually likes it.
>>4920196Why are people from Philadelphia so aggressively gay?
>>4920382>the bird jews are actually in control of the cat vs dog warLMAO board politics everyone!
>>4920214>zoottpwhat is this?
>>4920236This is a Nature board. Go to /mlp/ if you can't handle the reality of Nature.
>>4920372no one will, because it's mostly schizos hiding behind le nature to vent their mentally ill hatred of some species of pet or another and you only save a narrow band of dead animal media
>>4920196Why do birds of prey make catfags seethe so much?
>>4920615>catfags on the bird issue: *shuts door* oh wow my cat will live longer for a variety of reasons. cool trick. birds? huh? never thought of them. i was more worried about dogs, people, and cars. >birdfags: MY SOURCE OF FAP MATERIAL! NO! LET YOUR CAT BACK OUT!
>>4920196>YT comments crying why the people filming didn't intervene lmao>>4920615They like to think of their cats as scaled down lions so to see them so utterly humiliated in a helpless prey role drives them mad.
>>4920636If you search for "birds killing cats" on Youtube you'll get many many many videos of cats killing small birds that catfags have uploaded, yet if you post even one video of a hawk or eagle killing a cat, catfags will blow a gasket
>>4920639Lions get their asses ripped by hyenas all the time. If it werent for one equaling more safari money and africans relevant hyena repelling efforts they’d be going extinct. Every day africans do mass poisonings of hyenas and painted dogs but leave lions alone because they’re a tourism symbol and live further away from farmers. And also, because they taste weirdly good. They are now farming lions for meat and making lion burgers.
>>4920636semirelated but the question I still don't have an answer to: why is it acceptable for cats to be the only "pets" that roam outside freely? no leash, no supervision, nothing. >because it's naturalthen they shouldn't (and aren't) be pets.
Yeah, I’m gonna dine on this guinea.
>>4920645Because the consequences are indirect, and normies literally can not comprehend indirect consequences. If you spill dark oil they panicIf you spill a clear odorless low viscosity fluid that immediately causes cancer nothing happened to themFeral bite people and spread rabies, this is obviousThe effects of toxoplasmosis are more like the odorless cancer juice
hello bird posterscan any of you identify these things
>>4920723Where at?Looks like some type of Ibis
>>4920725Bahamasthey usually show up in groups of 5-6 in my backyard and just peck around the grass.
>>4920728Glossy ibis, Plegadis falcinellus
>>4920733thanks
>>4920196Birds are beautiful creaturesUnlike cats
>>4920992https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4oEM0W6mhM
>>4920196Lion cub literally shits itself as it gets carried off by a martial eagle
>>4922700haha, ewww
>>4922700Damn that bird is THICC
>>4920196The narration and background music for that video are great
>>4920196The awesome power of BIRDS!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzDXKD6VgOY
>>4920196https://youtube.com/shorts/OkRpxshTnu0?si=C6Crnn6P0iANdUhm
>>4922700That lion cub is going to make a tasty meal for the eagle
>>4920647>>4920694
Raptors are incel sniper animals with no honor or dignityIts like "im so chad i hide in a tree and shoot people in the back". Ok? Injure another chicken and you’re eating poisoned rodents, retards.
>>4925061Feral cats, leopards, jaguars, tigers: all ambush predators.Lions: don't stand a chance against larger prey unless three or more adult lions all gang up on an isolated or weak one.I wouldn't talk if I were a catfag.
>>4925064Cats still do battle, they still give chase. Birds are frail aerial geeks attacking backs from out of sight. Raptors are vile and dishonorable creatures.
>>4920196>AIslopnot surprised for even one second
>>4925065And yet the raptor's powerful talons still make cats their bitch:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj_AV4pqa_w
>>4925969>durrr i might be a 5’4” ugly retard with no bone mass but i can still shoot children from behindHawkfags, this is your mindset.
>>4925983>>durrr i might be a 5’4” ugly retard with no bone mass but i can still shoot children from behindThis is very similar to what cats do when they pounce on unsuspecting mice or freshly hashed chicks still in their nest.
>>4925989>cat haters: mice are smart and are super evasive. cats cant get rid of them. scientific fact. >cat haters: WOAH WOAH WOOOAAAAH BIRDS ARENT SNEAK ATTACK INCELS CATS ARE! MICE DONT STAND A CHANCE!Believe it or not a cat and mouse game on land is a lot more engaging and challenging than random talon slams for anything that is exposed to open sky
>>4925061it's pointless to moralise animalsbut the fact is raptors are way dumber than cats, reptile brains 100% operating on preprogrammed behavioryou can put a little hat on them and turn them into a living drone kek
>>4926081Snowy owl - 1,270,000,000 cortical neuronsHouse cat - 249,830,000 cortical neurons
>>4926123This comparison only works between animals that have similar brain structure, ie chimps and humans, dogs and cats, different species of whale, but not whales and animals without sophisticated sonar and paralimbic systems. The way bird brains are wired, proportioned, and used is radically different from mammals. They aren’t even necessarily conscious, as in, self evaluating. Planning and problem solving can occur unconsciously in a sufficiently advanced AI. We don’t actually know how they think and probably won’t for 100+ more years. All we know is apparently brilliant ones keep running into windows.
>>4926125Okay but cats are still near the low end as far as mammals go, well below chihuahuas and large rodents like capybaras.
>>4926142Okay but birds of prey are still soulless incel animalsYou’re basically fanboying a poisonous plant
>>4926142you completely ignore the body size scaling in mammalsIf it was not scaled with body size a giraffe would be a genius animal.
>>4926152Body size scaling doesn’t matter as much with cortical neuronsFrontal lobe size and connectivity do. That’s actually the most important metric dogs smash cats in, but cats have better developed structures associated with memory recall. The dog thinks but takes a minute to remember, the cat remembers but has no clue what’s going on. The end result, a genius spaz and an idiot capable of holding grudges. Among superior brains you also need to consider the presence and arrangement of spindle cells (VENs) that connect different cortical layers. Spindle neurons are numerous and highly organized in primates and basically scale with intelligence. These are the "deep consciousness" cells that grant a conscious mind… something, probably a spirituality like introspective sense and greater creativity. Like deep self awareness instead of just knowing you’re here and being able to get used to a mirror. You could probably add them to any mammal and get a massive improvement, and grant them the ability to more reliably plot suicide and murder and other fun stuff like becoming schizophrenicDo not confuse with sleep spindlesAnyone who knew about these would never claim otters are more intelligent than dolphins. Otters dont have VENs.
>>4926196>Spindle neurons are numerous and highly organized in primates and basically scale with intelligence. These are the "deep consciousness" cells that grant a conscious mind… something, probably a spirituality like introspective sense and greater creativity. Like deep self awareness instead of just knowing you’re here and being able to get used to a mirror. You could probably add them to any mammal and get a massive improvement, and grant them the ability to more reliably plot suicide and murderYou have no idea what you're talking about.>VENs have also been found in a number of artiodactyl and perissodactyl species, including the pygmy hippopotamus, Nile hippopotamus, domesticated pig (Sus scrofa domesticus), sheep (Ovis aries), cow (Bos taurus), white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus), horse (Equus ferus caballus), common zebra (Equus burchellii), and black rhinoceros (Diceros bicornis) (Butti and Hof, 2010; Butti et al., 2011; Raghanti et al., 2015). VENs were also present in both the African and Asian elephants but were restricted to the anterior cingulate cortex of the Asian elephant and the anterior insula, frontal pole, and dorsolateral frontal region of the African elephant (Hakeem et al., 2009). VENs have also been reported in the cortex of the small-bodied rock hyrax (P. capensis), which is the closest living relative of the elephants (Raghanti et al., 2015).>These findings challenge hypotheses that suggest VENs were necessary solely for complex social interactions or that VENs facilitate information processing in large brains as they are found in a number of species across phylogenetic groups, body sizes, and EQs.
>>4926196>>4927842And also:>Von Economo neurons (VENs) are specialized projection neurons with a characteristic spindle-shaped soma and thick basal and apical dendrites. VENs have been described in restricted cortical regions, with their most frequent appearance in layers III and V of the anterior cingulate cortex, anterior insula, and frontopolar cortex of humans, great apes, macaque monkeys, elephants, and some cetaceans. Recently, a ubiquitous distribution of VENs was reported in various cortical areas in the pygmy hippopotamus, one of the closest living relatives of cetaceans. That finding suggested that VENs might not be unique to only a few species that possess enlarged brains. In the present analysis, we assessed the phylogenetic distribution of VENs within species representative of the superordinal clade that includes cetartiodactyls and perissodactyls, as well as afrotherians. In addition, the distribution of fork cells that are often found in close proximity to VENs was also assessed. Nissl-stained sections from the frontal pole, anterior cingulate cortex, anterior insula, and occipital pole of bowhead whale, cow, sheep, deer, horse, pig, rock hyrax, and human were examined using stereologic methods to quantify VENs and fork cells within layer V of all four cortical regions. VENs and fork cells were found in each of the species examined here with species-specific differences in distributions and densities. The present results demonstrated that VENs and fork cells were not restricted to highly encephalized or socially complex species, and their repeated emergence among distantly related species seems to represent convergent evolution of specialized pyramidal neurons. The widespread phylogenetic presence of VENs and fork cells indicates that these neuron morphologies readily emerged in response to selective forces,whose variety and nature are yet to be identified.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24852852/
>>4926196Also, lmao>The absence of spindle cells, or von Economo neurons (VENs), in the cortex of rodents, particularly Rattus norvegicus , has been previously reported. In this paper, we show microanatomic and immunohistochemical evidence of the existence of VENs-like cells in the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) and in the frontoinsular cortex (FI) of R. norvegicus . For this purpose, NADPH-d histochemistry, immunohistochemistry for nNOS, eNOS, NeuN, GABRQ, dopamine D3R and Nissl staining were performed. The results showed fusiform neurons positive for the aforementioned markers in layers III and V of the ACC and in layers III and V of the FI cortex. Fork neurons were also observed in the same areas. The NADPH-d-positive elements also indicated a close anatomical relationship between some VENs-like cells and blood capillaries. These findings demonstrate the anatomical existence of VENs-like cells in the rat.https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364731343_Identification_of_spindle-shaped_von_Economo-like_neurons_in_the_rodent_Rattus_norvegicus
>>4920642>Lions get their asses ripped by hyenas all the time.Based.>They are now farming lions for meat and making lion burgers.Equally based.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nYpf2FiongB-birdbros?
>>4930991And?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZEccmWaq4
>>4930991Notice birdbros aren't unhinged, like catfags are
>>4927845VEN-like cells are probably in most mammals, but none as good at their job as those in primates
>>4920196>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjlW_GWuXysThis video is wonderful. Thank you.
>>4920196Wild Focus is an excellent channel
>>4926125how are my buddy corvids NOT self evaluating
>>4926151how are cats any different?
