Wrangel Island is that last place where mammoths were alive, and they survived up until 4000 years ago. They were roaming around this island while the pyramids in Egypt were being built.Wow...
I wonder what could have led to their extinction considering how long they held on for?
Mammoths going extinct everywhere still doesn't make sense to an extent if it was caused by peopleHumans were already domesticating elephants 7 thousand years ago and mammoths wouldn't have been more aggressive than their southern cousins
>>4930078>>4930084I think the changing climate and loss of steppe tundra around the end of the last glacial maximum had a greater impact on them. Human hunting only sped up the extinction.
>>4930084humans never domesticated elephants, domestication is a genetic trait, and its not viable to induce in elephant populations because brood size is too small and gestation is too long for, what amounts to, spear chuckers to deal with.taming them is not the same as domestication, thats tricking them with the carrot and the stick until they obey, like seals and orcas in aquariums are not domesticated. theyve been tamed
>>4930169Aren't they like bonobos where they kinda self-domesticated to live around people without too much trouble? At least Asian heffalumps, anyway.
>>4930206Not really for either, in India, elephants kill many more people than tigers do. In addition they commonly will tear up crops and eat them for food, biggest problem for elephants is habitat-conflicts like these, in addition to poaching. Working elephants are usually either broken into submission and/or just tamed animals, domestication means being bred over generations to the point of being modified by humans. Taming is just getting a wild animal to not freak out around you. Elephant domestication probably couldn’t even be done now.>maturity takes decades for males and females>gestation is very long>rearing the elephant calf is even longer>absurd space and food requirementsWhereas something like cattle can be reasonably kept track by one person.African elephants are about the same and have even learned to be more fearful of men’s voices over women and children (since men are more likely to be poachers), and have even learned the dialects of the tribes who will hunt them and the tribes who don’t. Also when were bonobos ever domesticated by humans? They live in dense jungles very far from human habitation and all great apes are naturally secretive.
>>4930084The ones who domesticated elephants were probably farmers. Mammoths were killed off by hunter gatherers who hadn't been pushed to adopting agriculture yet.
>>4930075that was debunked
>>4932486When?
