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Welcome to /plant/, the happy green place on this blue board, where growers, gardeners and horticulturists share their love for things that grow.

Newbies and amateurs are very welcome, and we’ll always try to answer your questions.

>Flora of the World
http://www.worldfloraonline.org/

>Plants of the World Online
https://powo.science.kew.org/

>Hardiness zones
https://www.plantmaps.com/

>Plant ID Sites
https://identify.plantnet.org/
https://wildflowersearch.org/

>Pests and Diseases
https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/advice-search
https://www.growveg.com/plant-diseases/us-and-canada/

>Thousands of Botanical Illustrations
http://www.plantillustrations.org/

>Cacti and Succulents
https://worldofsucculents.com/
https://www.cactiguide.com/
https://www.succulentguide.com/

>Carnivorous plants
https://botany.org/home/resources/carnivorous-plants-insectivorous-plants.html
https://carnivorousplants.org/grow/guides

>Alpine plants
https://www.alpinegardensociety.net/plants/

>Ponds
https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/actions/how-build-pond

>How to Make a Terrarium
https://terrariumtribe.com/diy-terrarium-guide/

Previously on /plant/
>>4916383
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Went to my parents' for 20 days and forgot to leave the curtains open for this orchid. It lost three leaves and the last one doesn't look good either. Don't know if a grow light would help, but I'll try anyway.
The stems are still green and flexible (they never turned brown after the flowers fell off), would it be better to leave them as is, or to cut them off?
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>>4940731 (OP)
Dogweed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> catweed
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>>4941142
cut all off and smoke it. let it relive in your lungs.
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>>4941142
Leave them. If they're green and not dry then they'll photosynthesize
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>>4940731 (OP)
Is pebbles in the bottom of pots really that bad? I started getting into cacti and succulents and did it just on "common sense" without reading about it since it made sense to stop dirt falling out the holes in the bottom. But now I read it's bad and will kill my plants by raising the water table and keeping the roots moist.

I've seen now people using mesh at the bottom but they always seem to have to cut the roots free when repotting and thus damaging the roots so I don't think I want to do that.
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Any professionals here? What do you do? Do you enjoy it? What do you make? Would you recommend your job to others?
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>>4941562
It's unlikely to kill your plants if you're watering them appropriately, but it does waste some of the space in the pot that would otherwise be filled with soil and roots, so at best it's pointless.
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>>4941562
>Is pebbles in the bottom of pots really that bad?
It's a popular myth. Self watering pots (semi hydro) and hydroponics keeps plant's root moist all the time. Though if it's cacti you don't want to use the two method, some pebbles won't kill it either, just make sure it dries completely before each watering.
>cut the roots free when repotting and thus damaging the roots
Also doesn't matter. They will just grow more.
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Can I do anything about browning leaves or should I cut it off once it starts?
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>>4941562
I place a few larger bits pumice (I already put it in my diy mix) in the bottom of all my cacsucc pots to cover holes (I drill more) a bit, they're fine as long as it still drains well.

I don't layer it as such just sorta place it over the hole so finer things like sand/zeolite don't wash out too much.

I wouldn't do this with decorative/non porous gravel though.
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>>4941682
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Has anyone tried growing coffee plants at home? How successful was the bean production?
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>>4941562
Whoever told you that doesn't know what they're talking about. Pots with drainage don't have a water table. They only store whatever water they can absorb.

>>4941562
>>4941753
Crushed lump charcoal is better for the purpose than pebbles or gravel. It drains better, it's lighter weight, and it absorbs nutrients that would be washed out with the excess water.
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>>4941142
That dark green spot on the leaf looks concerning. Check it if it spreads cut until the green part.
>>4941747
Once it's browns/yellows/darken it's not coming back. You can cut only the browning part and it will stop spreading downwards. Unless it's severe or you just don't like the look don't cut off the petiole, they can still use the green parts for photosynthesize.
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Found a fallen mistletoe on a hike, really neat how it blends into the pine
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>>4942399
mistletoes reach some pretty crazy levels of mimicry in the southern hemisphere. The stripy leaves (actually technically photosynthetic branchlets) belong to the host plant (casuarina sp), while the ones without stripes are the mistletoe (amyema cambagei)
nobody's quite sure why they mimic so closely. The two main theories are that the mistletoe is much more palatable to herbivores than the host plant and so the mimicry is to avoid predation, or that, because they're obligate parasites of a specific plant, the mimicry means that the birds that eat the fruits and disperse the seeds can't just seek out the mistletoe directly and instead have to visit a bunch of different host trees to check closely where they have a higher chance of shitting out the seed on a completely new host tree
interesting stuff
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>>4942505
here's a different amyema species parasitising a eucalypt. The eucalyptus leaves are the slightly bluer ones on the right, but often there's no colour difference at all. The only way to tell other than waiting for it to flower is getting up close and feeling the leaves. Mistletoe leaves tend to be fleshier than the host plant and kind of soft and spongey in a very characteristic way. When they get really big you can spot them easier because they often grow denser than the host tree so they'll be visible as a big clump in an otherwise sparse canopy
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>>4942512
here's that same species when both it and the host tree are flowering. The mistletoe has red flowers, the host white. Sorry for spamming a bit, I just like mistletoes and I'm sure you can imagine they very rarely come up in conversation
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my plant at 18 days old
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>>4942399
>>4942505
>>4942512
>>4942514
mistletoe dude loves his mistletoes
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>>4942505
>>4942512
>>4942514
Interesting, I didn't know mistletoes are so different in the southern hemisphere.
But I didn't mean "blend in" as concealment, but the way it attached itself to the pine, better visible in this photo.

Mistletoes here don't hide themselves at all, you can see them from hundreds of meters away, I guess they don't need to because their fruit is one of the very few food sources for birds in winter.
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Different tree from distance, you can easily see how they stick out like a sore thumb, it's hard to not notice them
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Another example, in winter when trees drop leaves mistletoes are usually the only green part on the tree left, unfortunately it was getting dark when I made those photos so colors aren't distinguishable here but I can assure you they are green.
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>>4942713
Mistletoe figured out a way to graft itself to completely unrelated species.
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>>4942715
looks like /plant/ infected with mistleposter
jk love u
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I want to get one of my femboy friends a gift

Any suggestions on a good "goth" flower?
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>>4943017
Some dark almost black begonia
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>>4943017
Ceropegia Bosseri
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>>4943047
Damn this is some elden ring shit.
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I've got an aloe × nobilis and a sedum adolphi both occupying one medium/largish pot together, was the first plants I had as a gift about 10 years ago. The aloe is huge and the sedum isn't doing too bad either, but now that I've actually started getting into botany I feel the sedum could do better in it's own pot.

Should I repot them both and try to somehow disentangle roots that have been together for 10 years, or would I be better taking cuttings of the sedum and just re-propagating it?
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>>4940731 (OP)
Hello frens what books, podcasts, YouTube channels, blogs, whatever do I have to read to learn to have a shit ton of plants around my living space?
I want living plants all around my place, like, tons of green and ideally nice pure air. But I'm not well versed in plant care. I want the plants to have the best life possible. Oh, and I'm interested in beginner herbalism, i.e somebody is sick or has allergies, and I have herbs from the garden to quickly whip up a quick concoction. Anyways, I'm a bit baked sorry for the ramble post, thanks for reading this. Also, (you) are going to have a great day anon.
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>>4943615
Just buy/collect/steal plants and put them in your home.
You don't have to read or watch anything first. Just go out and do it.
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>>4943243
You can do either, just be careful with the roots. Cloning the sedum removes any risk of damaging the roots.
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>>4943621
Why is the pic so opinionated on polka dots?
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>>4943634
Yeah I went with cuttings and propagating. Taking it out the pot it was just a big solid mass of roots so was simpler just to cut and regrow. Hopefully it works anyway, just waiting for them to callus since I did it today.

Will get a bigger pot next time for the aloe since it definitely needs more space too despite being in a fairly big pot already. Weirdly the roots aren't super coiled around the bottom like you often see on "root bound" pots but they were running in straight lines down the side tightly packed together.
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>>4943668
no idea lol
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Well my rainbow butterfly garden thread didn't get much traction, so I'll just add the request for suggestions here with a link to the thread.

https://desuarchive.org/an/thread/4938893/#q4938893
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>>4943615
1: Go to Lowe's.
2: Look at the discount section.
3: Hoover that shit up.
4: Enjoy your overflowing plant collection (which will need nurturing to look better than the state you bought them in).
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>>4943862
Have you heard of my good friends the Echiums?
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>>4943868
This was discussed in the thread.
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>>4943874
I wouldn't call one post mentioning Echiums a 'discussion' but OK.
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>>4943879
In other words, Echium was considered already. None of them have a color gradation. GRADATION. Not just possessing more than one color. A gradation. It's missing.
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>>4943881
So what you mean is you had a discussion with yourself and you think we're all supposed to know the outcome of it.
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>>4943895
>the /an/ poster is obstinate, smug and retarded
Ah, like mom's apple pie...
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>What do you mean you let your peperomia flower?!?
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>>4944002
I let my peperomia flower because I planted it in the garden
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>give plant a larger moss pole than it had as a seedling
>outgrows it in 2 weeks
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>>4943047
just got one
it's actually soft to touch wtf
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Anyone managed to get a Monstera deliciosa to fruit in the UK?
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I was growing a silver maple in a pot indoors and I thought I killed it but was too lazy to throw it out. Now it started putting out leaves again. :)
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If an etiolated succulent flops over and finds itself laying on soil, will that body root into the soil and grow as if you had cut it?
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>>4944923
I don't know specifically about your plant, but that is the basic of ground layering.
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Where the FUCK do I get gunnera peltata?
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>tons of fungus gnat larvae visible in soil
>douse it with peroxide
>nothing happens
>douse it with mosquito bits (advertised as working on fungus gnats) water
>nothing happens
???
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I have had a shitty Veitchii Gardenia in a pot for four fucking months that looked magnificent in the store, then as soon as I brought it home it started throwing a fucking tantrum, stopped growing, dropped all its flower buds and burnt the tips of all its leaf buds and just stayed like that for four fucking months doing nothing. Not getting worse, not getting better. It was in a spot that got about 3 hours of direct sun. Then I finally found a good place to plant them (Florida, sandy soil with variable organic content) and put one in a spot with basically full sun for most of the day hoping it would encourage blooming, one under a tree in 3/4 shade and one I potted as an indoor plant. ALL of them are wilting now to some degree and the one in full sun is looking fucking atrocious and the leaves are turning pale green (not chlorosis - the entire leaf is turning a sickly lime green). The branches in the center of each plant look the least terrible and they wilt at the tips more as the branches become more lateral. The one in full sun has been watered quite a lot due to wilting more than the others, but now I'm afraid it's been overwatered, but I can't fucking tell what the hell is wrong with these spergy fucking autism-bushes. I'm about to set every one of the motherfuckers on fire and plant something less retarded.
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>>4943047
you sure that belongs on earth?
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>>4945517
weird fetish but ok
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>>4945477
>native to southern china and japan
>plants it in florida
if you want something hardy and easy to care for, find something native
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Anyone here grow Bromeliads? Are they easy?
I'm experienced with succulents but the bathroom in my new place has a good sized windowsill and think a Bromeliad would work well there.
Just a supermarket one, nothing unusual.
Thoughts? Tips?
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Stupid question but when you have plants on the wall such as staghorn ferns, how do you water them without splashing the wall as well?
Do you just mist?
Taking the plant off the wall, soak it and then putting back seems tedious.
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>>4945526
Don't be a fag.
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¿any varieties that can quite look like as the roses found in quite many films as like the godfather ?
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>>4945935
'Mister Lincoln'. Old as fuck and well known. The roses you see that are shaped like goblets like that are just not fully open.
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>>4945805
You generally have something it's mounted on, like hardwood, not put it straight on the wall itself, with a cage/wire etc. holding growing media like spag moss.
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>>4946003
Yeah but still if I use watering can, once the moss is full(or dry and doesn't hold water that well) water will be all over the floor.
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>>4945805
You do it like Vanda orchids. Soak the thing in water for like 10-20 minutes, let it drip, and place it back.
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>>4945940
looks like "Chrysler Imperial" would be better?

https://ilersis.org/empresa-jardineria-medio-ambiente/una-rosa-clasica-el-chrysler-imperial/
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>>4940731 (OP)
anyone know why this oak has a massive rust coloured strip? seems healthy besides this
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>>4945741
The humidity of the shower will likely be enough water for them. Water very infrequently.
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Found these lil snails in the soil of my dieffenbachia, should I kill them or put em back?
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>>4946173
That's a really shitty picture. Assuming they're decollate snails, it should be okay, they are mostly carnivorous.
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>>4946192
Doesn't look like it. The snails I have have pointy shells and green bodies.
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>>4941142
I moved it to a grow tent and have been spraying it with purified water. I noticed that it has four new buds. Don't have any previous experience with orchids so I can't tell if they're flowers or leaves and whether it's a good or a bad thing, so I'll be optimistic for now.
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>>4946299
looks like keiki to me
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My mom got me a bunch of these bougie yogurts that come in small clay and glass jars.
Anyone know what kind of plants can live in a small pot the size of a standard yogurt cup?
I dunno about the glass one. But I think I can drill drain holes in the clay ones.
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>>4946107
What's up with all the spic shit lately?
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>>4946224
The one in that image has the back half of its shell broken off.
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>>4946413
I can't think of much that'll really thrive, good drainage is important especially for houseplants. It takes a long time for stuff to dry out indoors. If you try drilling them, be careful and use a fresh sharp bit. Find a safe way to secure the cup with your fleshy bits out of harms way.

The worst part of keeping cacti is not knowing if they're in the midst of a 6 month death spiral and you just can't tell yet or they're doing just fine. I was away on a hiking trip and my mom decided to put a bunch of my plants outside for a few days, including my seedlings and this turb hasn't really been the same since. I think it's getting better though.
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>>4946449
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>>4946450
The loph is about a year old, the two turbs (schmiedickeanus and ysabelae) are about 2 years.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiDi2mOhq7Y [Embed]

what plants are those?
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>>4946413
most of them, pothos, monstera, philodendron
the only problem would be the size of your container
you don't need drainage hole if you do semi hydro with LECA or pumice or perlite
or you can even do full water culture but the water need to be changed regularly
though both method use sterile media so you need some kind of fertilizer
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>>4946450
fucking gorgeous

>>4946451
>schmiedickeanus
how long do they take to grow? the guys I got my trichocereus seeds from sell them and I kinda wanted to grow a couple just so I could give them to people and tell them it's called a schmiedickeanus
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>>4946449
It looks like she took a flamethrower to this one.
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>>4946532
I'm sure that my conditions aren't exactly ideal, but that's a 2 year old plant and it's maybe half an inch tall. I think it's probably too much of a time investment for gag gifts unless you already have an excellent setup going and some free space.
>>4946600
Yeah...
It's getting better though, it was looked badly sunburned before and it's plumped back up now and lost most of the red that it had. This is what it'll look like in a few decades provided I can keep it alive.
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>>4941747
what website can i buy plants from? i want a plan for my gecko to be able to climb on and hide in when he arrives
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how would i know if a mango plant starts developing more tree like features?
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>>4946600
cacti can get flash killed if put in full sun wo acclimation
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>>4946675
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>>4946793
>reddit frog
That's not an answer
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I've been tasked with trying to get rid of a fungus gnat infestation in a home. However I don't know what plants have been infested among the 20 pots and trees since none of them look like they're dying and I put up a Xevo that only catches like 1 or 2 over the course of several days so it's not a like a swarm of them like in pic related.
Do I just have to mosquito dunk everything or is there some other way to check to know which plants are infested?
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>>4940731 (OP)
I meticulously saved/sorted the seeds of about 20 kinds of petunias last September. I look forward to the result.
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>>4947015
>I don't know what plants have been infested among the 20 pots and trees
All of them

>Do I just have to mosquito dunk everything
Yes, mosquito bits are very effective

Also set up more yellow sticky traps, you can hang them near ceiling, they'll still land on them
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>>4947015
They're probably breeding in your drains. Pour boiling water down all of your drains, start watering your plants from the bottom, and put a layer of something with good drainage over the top of your soil. Crushed lump charcoal works really well, but you can use anything. Expanded clay pellets are a popular choice.
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I planted 5 red spider lily bulbs about 5 years ago in my backyard. Every autumn they grow leaves but don't bloom or anything. What am I doing wrong? I know they're still alive because the send up leaves but they never bloom.... I love in Zone 8 so I figured they'd do well here....
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>>4947069
>put a layer of something with good drainage over the top of your soil. Crushed lump charcoal works really well, but you can use anything. Expanded clay pellets are a popular choice.
Wouldn't the gnats just be able to get through all the gaps since the charcoal and clay is still relatively big?
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What kind of plants grow in the American plains where rattlesnakes live? All I can make out is a ton of grass and dead grass. I know they're plains and that's what grows there, but surely something else lives there that would be viable in a terrarium?
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>>4947069
>They're probably breeding in your drains. Pour boiling water down all of your drains
Any idea how much boiling water I should put in all of them?
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>>4947250
Also is there any risk the water will fuck up the drains?
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>>4947270
If you're going to be that autistic, let me rephrase it, will boiling water ruin or warp PVC piping that connects a sink to the drainage system given it's a plastic that can melt or warp under that level of heat?
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>>4947283
So you don't know, you could have said that instead of throwing a fit.
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Bloody lorikeets
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>>4944012
No more half measures, Walter
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Apparently not watering your bonsai for a week can kill them
Fuck that, I'm not bothering with them
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>>4947250
>>4947262
Enough to fill your p trap. It won't ruin your pipes.
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>>4947084
It's less about keeping them away from the soil and more about keeping the top of the soil dry.
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What makes this general better than the /out/ general?
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>>4947453
>>4947454
That makes sense, thank you for the answers.
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>>4947473
/hgm/ is generally more agriculture focused.
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>>4947477
thanks for the answer anon
I've decided to use both
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>>4947458
>lold
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>>4947476
No problem. Good luck, anon.
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I finally got my plant workstation started. I hope this doesn't just rot away. Need to add some fan. Complete noob too. Tell me what you think.
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>>4948164
Looks great
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>>4948164
>habanero
>tobasco
>lemon
Lemon?
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>>4948258
Ecuador lemon chili.
Habanero, Tabasco, lemon, cayenne, jalapeno, bell, reaper and some pepperoni. 3 each if they all sprout.
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>>4947989
Just an update.
>Poured boiling water down every drain and made sure it settled in the P trap.
>Got a bag of mosquito bits and both soaked them in the water used for the plants and put extra bits in the bowls where excess water pooled.
I watered them normally this time just to make sure the bit content permeate the soil. I'll stick to watering only the bowls in the future.
>Invested in some Xevo traps and put them around along with placing the remaining yellow sticky traps within the plants.
The one wrinkle is a few of the plants are orchids or have no drainage, so I'm making due there.
Also not sure how effective clay balls will be, but I'll try and put them in anyway after a few days when the soil starts to dry.
Anything else I should do?
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>>4948277
>orchid
>no drainage
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>>4948277
Only bottom water for a while
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>>4947473
not better, just different

/hgm/ is more practical and focused around growing crops, /plant/ is more general horticulture/botany interest and ornamentals, obviously there is overlaps thoughbeit
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>>4947477
true

PD; your pic thumb looks like a graft on pere
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>>4948822
How's rockwool for cactus seedlings? I always run into problems when using soil.
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>>4948822
plant tok roasties fear the chad asbestos cactus
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I've used weed soil I had for everything now except setting out chili and tomato seedlings. I thought it should do well for kitchen herbs and tomatoes etc. Was that dumb? Our local hardware store had a sale for weed substrate and I got a bunch of bags. The microgreens I've grown in it taste kinda funky. Did I fuck up? Because the goddamn weed doesn't grow either lmao
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>>4949218
weed soil as in cannabis? personally I'd steer clear of shit like that, you never know what they're putting in it, especially with all the fucked up hormones people use for growing weed. I usually shell out for the organic certified stuff, not cause I really care about it being organic but because the only way I feel I can know what's in it is if I'm the one that puts it in. If you're only growing kitchen herbs and pot plants and shit it's not really that expensive
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what plant is this?
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>>4949598
Dracaena trifasciata, formerly known as Sansevieria trifasciata, and known commonly as Snake Plant, or Mother-in-Law's Tongue.
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I kill all succulents and cacti by overwatering lol
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>>4949598
A common whore.
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>>4949827
men who say shit like this are the same men who support trannies invading womens spaces and beating them in their sports and will happily call any woman who disagrees a cunt and a whore to show how progressive they are
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>soak some spagmoss
>put a lid on bucket
>forget about it
>open it a week later
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>>4949674
if you use 100% pumice it's pretty much impossible to overwater it but you need fertilizer either slow release or liquid
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Is it normal for a fig tree (the edible figs) to be evergreen indoor
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>>4950093
Try using coconut coir instead of moss
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>>4950148
Looks to me like it either needs more sun or more nutrients
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>>4950148
My figs never lose their leaves (unless I forget to water them and they dry up and fall off). Southern hemisphere, no snow.
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>>4950093
what happened chum
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>>4950227
Smelled...fermentated
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Everytime I see photos of people having rooms full of plants to have their own "jungle" it's the same 10 plants.
Do these people have no imagination?
I suspect they also make plants their personality.
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>>4950178
if he's using phagnum for orchid it can't be repplaced by coco coir unless it's terrestrial like cymbidium, you need the ungrinded coco chips instead
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>>4950313
u mad?
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Look at him go
I have never had second bloom this intense, gotta be the supplemental light I started using half a year ago
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What's wrong with my ficus microcarpa? Some of leaves are like picrel, some already got full brown and fell. Overwatering?
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>>4950545
Can you explain why? I see orchids growing in all kinds of media and even without any at all. I don't think it matters to them what they stick their roots in as long as it's wet.
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>>4950611
coco coir is the fine powdery stuff that is when wet is similar to soil, it's not a sphagnum moss replacement but more of a peat moss
fine media like that suffocates epiphytic and lithophytic orchids because in nature they barely have any medium on their root so their root are adapted to constantly exposed to air, but it's good for terrestrial orchids like paphiopidelum or nervilia (picrel) because they grew on dirt instead of trees, their roots are adapted to moist soil
coco chips are diced coconut husk which basically the same as coir but it's chunky and cube shaped so if you dump your orchid there will be air pockets and the roots can breathe unlike fine coir
>I see orchids growing in all kinds of media
that's because orchid is the second most diverse plant family with all modes of growth like previously mentioned, you just tailor them to be as similar as possible to their nature, some are even nigh impossible to cultivate because they have symbiosis with specific fungi like in the case of epipogium or erythrorchis
>without any at all
this is the case with vanda orchids because their thick root itself serves as some kind of sponge that absorb water so no media is really necessary but many would still use some sphagnum or coco chip since bareroot vanda is a pain to water
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>>4950313
People go to home depot and buy whatever is available. That is, mass produced plants which have been selected for abuse. Given that they are mass produced you get large plants for a comparatively low price so you don't have to wait years for the plant to grow.
It's really simple.
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>>4947015
Get yourself some of these badboys and start underwatering with trays.
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Poncirus update
2nd set of trifoliate leaves
It is just loving life
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>>4950761
>all that mold
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>>4950764
Yeah it keeps growing on that particular pot. Not really bothered, I just scrape it off
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I like Passiflora foetida because it attracts hummingbirds to my house but didn't expect it to grow so aggressively and now it's disrupting other bushes near it. I thought about removing it and growing it again from seed in a separate pot. Does anyone have any experience growing similar plants in containers? Can I just keep trimming it in order to keep it manageable?
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>>4950794
Passiflora are notorious for being aggressive spreaders. You can grow them in a large pot. I have one in a 30 gallon. Your other option is growing it in an isolated bed far away from stuff you don't want them climbing. Their rhizomes can travel a good distance underground.
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>>4950627
Thanks for explaining

>fine media like that suffocates epiphytic and lithophytic orchids because in nature they barely have any medium on their root so their root are adapted to constantly exposed to air
You could probably just leave some of the root exposed. The coir would effectively just be an anchor for the plant and a wick for the water.

>vanda orchids
I think you misunderstood what I meant, the orchids I'm talking about are just in vases or cups and the roots are partially or mostly submerged in water. I've seen others in similar setups with nonporous media like marbles or chipped rocks to help anchor the orchard, but otherwise it's just water.
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Does pot color matter much? Like white for reflecting sunlight or something?
The unglazed terra cotta dried out too quickly in 100°F+ full sun last year so i wanted to try out a glazed one this time around
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>>4950930
Unglazed pots are porous and they allow water to evaporate, color probably isn't important as long as it's not pitch black.
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>>4950931
Excellent
Thanks
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>>4950888
>You could probably just leave some of the root exposed. The coir would effectively just be an anchor for the plant and a wick for the water.
that works but you need to leave more than some of the root exposed, I'd say 50% or more, and don't pack the coir like you would with soil
>submerged in water
that's full water culture. the prerequisite for that is to not submerge the roots at first but sit it on the top and let the roots grows in water, so the new roots are adapted to being submerged
in the nature really big epyphitic specimen like grammatophyllum speciosum grew root so long it touched the ground and said root become terrestrial, so it's the same concept
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>>4950930
>Does pot color matter much?
Yes, about 45% of sun's energy is in visible range although black pots are nowhere close to absorbance of 1 and white are nowhere near 0 but you can still expect 30%~60% difference in the amount of absorbed energy between them (depends a lot on infrared part of the spectrum you can't see) which is a lot.
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>>4951087
Duly noted
Thank you
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>>4950976
Neat
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Where do I buy the good shit?
Etsy? Ebay?
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>>4950148
Don't they need some dormancy to grow fruit?
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>>4950148
>practicing your degenerate bdsm fetish on an innocent plant
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>>4951296
Of the two, ebay
Best is usually private collectors or specialist nurseries who buy from the big guys
Networking with private collectors is mostly via facebook groups these days
Etsy is just normies selling shit for inflated prices
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Anyone know where I can get a silver vine plant?
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>>4951296
You can buy plenty of exotic specimen plants on eBay shipped from China but I font order from chinks when I can avoid it. Fuck knows they don't have a CITES permit or phytosanitary cert so it's a crapshoot if they even make it through customs.

Think I should chop this down a bit? It feels very top-heavy compared to the ovata I have. I was thinking cut it two or 3 nodes from the top and prune the lower oldest leaves.
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>>4950761
Needs some iron.
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>>4951721
Or fertilizer in general really.
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>>4950764
Best way to get rid of mold? Should i just repot if there is mold growing?
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>>4951737
Just stop overwatering your plants
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>>4951737
Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. Most molds won't hurt your plants.
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>>4951737
Mold means the air is not moving and your topsoil doesn't dry out. It will inevitably cause problems at some point since not many plants grow in places without any airflow.
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>>4950761
How the fuck do you see this and not scrape off the fucking mold at the very least
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>>4948362
>>4950674
Update after a week.
Found the 'source' plant, or at least the one where a vast majority of the fungus gnats are coming from since I put a bag clear bag over it and with a sticky trap, and caught like 30 gnats in it over the week along with seeing them flying around inside the bag constantly.
Meanwhile I've only caught 1 gnat every 2 days in every other trap combined.

I was planning on keeping that plant quarantined, but was told to just throw it out. I'm still going to follow what i was told about not watering or only doing it from the dish, however half the plants in the room don't have dishes, so not sure how to deal with those.
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>>4950761
>It is just loving life
not for long
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>>4951626
>Etsy is just normies selling shit for inflated prices
Where else can I get a good deal on normie shit?
Ngl I'm gonna buy some fancy monstera down the line. Ebay seems just way worse.
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>>4951778
You could just use any systemic insecticide and be done with it in a day.
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>>4951703
You could chop it down to make it branch out but it will often just branch out on it's own, or even if you remove a leaf, once the node dries up it will start producing side shoots, plus you can make a new plant from the leaf.
They're so free-branching and tolerant to pruning that's why they made great practise bonsai.
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>>4951778
You could try predatory nematodes. They'll live in your soil and eat all the gnat fly larvae. Eventually they'll eat all the pests in your potting soil and the population will crash so if you have the problem again you'll have to buy more.
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For a newcomer that knows very little about plants, are those bonsai any good for a beginner?
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Personally, I was thinking about buying either the one in the middle or this one.
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>>4952522
They aren't that hard, just watch some youtube tutorials
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>>4952522
>>4952523
don't spend money on this garbage
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>>4950601
bump?
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>>4951883
>>4952503
Nematodes would be cost prohibitive since I need like 4 gallons of water for all the plants and I'm taking the dry out approach. Actually, can fungus gnat eggs be killed off on their own or do I need to wait for them to become larva?
Plus, I've already got mosquito bits, the only thing I need now is something that kills the eggs or a way to disturb the adult ones to all come out to minimize them laying eggs since I had one fly out of a pot even after heavily disturbing the soil to clean out extra gunk.
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>>4952522
>>4952523
These looks like just a trimmed young plant so it grows bushier, definitely not a completed bonsai, those twinky ass stem lmao. If it's sold as sapling, seedling, or starter then it makes sense just be aware you need to mold them yourself for many years or it will grows into a normal tree.
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>>4952522
see >>4952540
just collect some seeds from your groceries, like bellpeppers or tomatoes or lemons
make some basilicum cuttings and try propagating them
just plop some shit into dirt and see what happens
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>>4947394
1st prototype
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>>4952931
In she goes
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>>4952522
>>4952523
Are these even trees? They kinda just look like young herbaceous shrubs. Like the middle one just looks like thyme.
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>>4952522
Bonsai are a nightmare
If you don't water them for a few days during hot water your plant can just die, even if you invested decades into it
It's not worth it
Get orchids if you want some cool plants
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>>4953095
I also have plants that will die if it goes below a certain temperature for a few hours. Just don't keep high maintenance species if you can't take care of them.
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>>4945113
you have to soak the mosquito bits first, i just leave some in anything I use for watering and have seen <10 gnats since (~2-3mo)
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>>4952553
Welp, I'm back to square one with the fungal gnats since I was told not to water just the dishes and the person re watered everything while I was away, without using the bits I got, so fuck me, any eggs, or larva is about to get a second wind and my entire week of work has been wiped out.
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>>4953477
Sorry to hear that. Maybe try leaving a piece of mosquito dunk in each watering dish or in your watering can like anon suggested? >>4953421
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>>4943047
Crime pays but botany doesn’t starts playing in my head
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>>4953616
Only half the plants has dishes and they don't want me to water any of the plants from the dishes alone.
Plus they just watered everything without the bits. So I'm not only hamstrung, but they completely reset all the progress I've made.
I can't even use clay balls or sand because of that.
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>>4953477
Here take this. Whatever you do DO NOT spray Raid anywhere near your plants. Raid is also an herbicide.
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behold my stuff.
I have no idea where I am going to put all these lmao
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>>4954526
But there is some mold I think. Am I doomed? What do?
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>Kalanchoe blossfeldiana is hardy
what a meme. fuck these niggersw
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>>4946110
slime flux, you'll see it on most mature elms and boxelders where I am at, less commonly on oaks. It is a bacterial infection, usually not of much concern just unsightly and gross looking, also smelly.
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finally got some sporophytes coming up in my drynaria rigidula tray
growing ferns from spores is great because you can pluck out and pot up the sporophytes and the gametophytes will still be there to make more like some kind of minecraft mob spawner but for plants
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>>4945517
Just letting you know I just finished masturbating to this video
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>>4955351
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Do you give your plants names?
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Got a large Phalaenopsis for 80% off because the flower spike stopped
I've been looking for one of these for years after seeing one 6 years ago that was exposed during winter and rotting
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>>4955585
I had a cactus named Jim but it died because someone else overwatered it while I was away.
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>>4955943
All of my sprouts died while I was away. I'm so fucking pissed.
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I was looking at platycerium, but all these ebay/Etsy seems sketchy.
Seems like every seller from SEA is trying to scam people.
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>>4956271
Where are you? Platycerium are pretty commonly sold plants, you should be able to buy from an online store.
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>>4956578
In eu. I can get the usual bifurcatum in every big hobby store, but I was looking for superbum, ridleyi, willinckii, etc.
Also, I'm not buying questionable spores.
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I bought a house late last year and so I finally have space for plants. Just got back from the local plant store and home depot (and spent way more money than I expected to at both).
The local plant nursery had nepenthes, I thought that was pretty cool. I've always been fascinated by carnivorous plants.
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Big lad
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>>4956643
RIP to you
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>>4956643
I don't know what it is about monstrose compared to normal cactii but lorikeets love biting them
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I downloaded the plantnet app this morning and went out at dawn to use it on weeds. It seems pretty good but you have to get a good picture. I was considering downloading picturethis but apparently it has ads. It's supposed to be the most accurate however, but you have to pay for it. I know a fella and he has that app and he just doesn't ever pay for it and the free trail repeats somehow lol. Plantnet doesn't have ads and you don't have to pay for it so I just went with that

I'm going to go to the local garden centre today anyways to test plantnet out. Any of you have any suggestions?
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>>4956744
Do you say this for a specific reason or just because I've given in to the urge to plant?
>>4956755
No lorikeets around here, but when I looked up lorikeet just now I thought it was interesting how similar the rainbow lorikeet's plumage is to the painted bunting's (which is local to me).
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>>4956780
>picturethis
I'm using this and never paid a cent. There is no ad besides the occasional banner pushing you to buy VIP, even then I barely spend time there just take a pic, read the name and quit the app.
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>>4956831
>given in to the urge to plant?
this one
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I hope this is the right board/thread

What’s the best scented jasmine I can grow in the south east of England please? I had some poet’s jasmine in a planter but it died over winter
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>>4956645
What happens if you put your penis in there, would it feel tingly, or would you get a chemical burn?
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>>4956982
I don't know and don't care to try. I imagine it is somewhat acidic like lemon juice
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>>4956943
I have jasminum officinale in my garden, don't know how it compares to others but it's hardy down to at least -8c and multi days freezes and comes back every year
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>>4956943
>in a planter but it died over winter
Did you took it inside or not? Very few jasmines are cold hardy and will die if exposed to frost.
>south east of England
Anything works as long as you took it inside during winter. The stuff they use in perfumery came from jasminum sambac and grandiflorum.
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>just repotted an Anthurium bare handed
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>patchouli edition
Hey, I got one of those
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Is a 15-15-15 fertilizer good for citrus?
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reject the colour green
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>another Peperomia developed bipolar and died
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>>4954497
>>4953616
An update on the war against fungal gants
Have watered twice using mosquito bits and gone all out with sticky traps, both yellow ones in every plant and a some Zevos as well.
Throwing out plant with a biggest infestation really caused the numbers to crash to where the traps are only catching an adult every 2-3 days.
But that still means there's some that are still alive.

The one thing I'm trying to figure out is the soil just sucks up all the water in the dish so there's nothing left and it causes the top soil be moist again. Would clayballs or sand matter there?
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Eurobros are we ready for spring?
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what the fuck is this green shit in my soil
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>>4958075
You probably just need to give it some more time. Pour some boiling water down your drains to make sure they aren't recolonizing your plants over and over again.
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>>4958158
Looks to me like trichoderma mold. It's not harmful to your plant and it will help break down nutrients to feed your plant. When I was grabbing the link google's ai said it you can use trichoderma to make a foliar spray that treats foliar pathogens. You might want to look into that. I assume you just wash some spores off into a spray bottle and spot treat any leaf infections you see.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichoderma
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>>4956943
Either regular Jasminum officinale, J. grandiflorum, or the evergreen Trachelospermum.
All are easy to grow climbers with white super fragrant flowers.
Trachelospermum is a bit tender if you live in rural areas but here on the South coast for example it does very well.
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How would you design your back garden if it looked like this? Pic related, right now it's only tiles. I was thinking of ripping up most tiles besides the pathway. I might leave more tiles for a place I want a shed built and a under cover pergola so I have a nice place to sit outside. The remaining space I want to grow flowers/wild flowers maybe even fruit/vegetables. I also want a small patch to be left to grow wild, no seeds, just to see what will grow there. I don't mind grass but I don't think I'd want that yet as I won't have a shed to place a lawn mower yet. From the picture you can see what gets sunlight. My garden fence is high so there is going to be shade in the lower part of the picture. There will be more shade depending on where I want the shed and pergola to be. The back garden is sized around 6 by15 meters long. I was wondering how anyone here would design it as I am not that optimal at doing stuff like this.
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>>4958231
Going from southern fence I would do shade tolerant, pollinator attracting flowers and herbs under fence as it's poorly suitable for veggie growing assuming fence is solid
Narrow lawn path to walk on
Then veggie garden all the way to the tile path, it might sound large but you'll go through this space in no time once you start seeding and planting
Shed and composting bin(s) on the other side next to the northern fence, remaining space in the northern section would be a grapevine trellis with flowers in front of it.

You don't have a lot of space, while a wild patch sounds nice it could also be used to grow kilograms of fruits and/or veggies or to have a nice spot to grill and chill, not worth it imo.
You could also lay some tiles to have a container growing area somewhere, like 2 x 3 meters, I have something like this (pic related) and it's really nice to have if you like to grow stuff in pots.
Pergola is a nice idea, you could use it to grow grapevine or actinidia over it for example.

But it really depends on how much time you plan to spend on your garden and what specifically you want to grow, trees and shrubs will be really costly on your space in a garden this small, you get way more millage from veggies although fruits require significantly less effort to grow.
You'll probably get better answers in >>>/out/2807648 as it is specifically gardening / food growing thread
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>>4958164
I already put boiling water down the drains during the initial sweep.
All the plants that have fungal gnats are in a closed off room. Every other plants and traps outside of it have had zero gnats since and the throwing out the heavily infected plant has really reduced the numbers too in the gnat room too.
I feel like the mosquito bits are doing their job, it's just taking that extra step to keep the top soil dry as much as possible.
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>>4947010
>reddit frog
You're a tourist and you've just outed yourself
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>>4958280
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
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Tips for caring for an indoor key lime tree?
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>>4958541
Put it outdoors.
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Could I ground some lentils (the legume) and give that to some of my plants to supplement iron? I don't feel like buying anything from Shekelberg.
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>>4956643
Carnivorous plants have very different care requirements to consider so make sure you look into that.
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Can anyone identify the weird pests that I found in the Azalea Bonsai I just brought home? I count 3 different kinds:

https://imgur.com/gallery/wLz4nkV

The greenish ones, the little tiny round black ones, and the long, millipede-ish one at the end. Don’t mind my cat. Can anyone ID these?
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>>4958700
The translucent ones are benign they eat dead and rotting matters, if anything they are beneficial. The black rotund thing looks like mite or beetle, it's probably benign too, but without a better pic I can't be sure.
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>>4958595
Use blood meal
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>>4958776
Thanks
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>>4958700
Those are springtails. No idea about the millipede but eh, chances are they're doing the same thing springtails do. Eat rotting stuff, fungi and spores. Shit free fertilizer.
>>4958730
Those are probably just the round shaped springtails magnified. They come in all kinds of shapes.
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>>4958983
Oh and the white springtails are the most fun looking ones, they flop around. I had a few in one of my plants but they got outcompeted by the boring silver elongated ones that can crawl all over the place and immediately colonize everything.
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I left for two weeks and I think my roommate really overwatered my ficus
it's got the greyish spot on the pic that's squishy to the touch and it keeps losing leaves everyday
is it a fungal infection? is there any way to save it?
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>>4958997
Cut everything that's squishy or discolored, repot into fresh well draining soil after washing the roots. Wait a couple of days and water with fungicide just to be sure.
Infected tissue is already fucked.
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>>4949827
kys faggot
no I don't care this is almost a month old
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>>4959043
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I'm gonna buy monstera and you will not stop me by calling me basic.
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>>4958700
>40,000 views in day.
Okay, where did you get this from
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How the fuck do I stop birds from attacking my outdoor plants? They mutilate and uproot anything smaller than a soda can. I've read up some solutions online like aluminum foil strips and decoy owls but those only seem to be effective like half of the time for most people. Pic related. This has been going on for a while
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>>4959699
You can try getting a cat but apart from that, they simply exist to destroy and you will never win.
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>>4959725
I do have a cat. Problem is she's asleep/indoors when the birds show up near dawn. I guess I'll have to bring all the small plants indoors somehow
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>>4959727
You can try cutting the bottom off some big soda bottles and using them to cover the plants.
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>>4959699
chicken wire mesh?
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>>4959699
Bird netting
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>>4959699
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>>4959699
Bird netting is a thing.
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>>4959699
Stick a shit load of skewers around your plants. It helped stop squirrels and chipmunks from digging up most of my seedlings.
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>>4945477
I'm in central MS and I'm having a similar issue. I just sat it outside because it wasn't doing anything inside last year. So I put it outside sometime in mid to late summer and it made a few blooms but they would turn yellow after a couple days along with some leaves, bud would fall off.. didn't really get any regrowth. I pruned it and that was fine but as everything got cooler it became...dormant? some leaves have stayed green and I've noticed more becoming that way. It got colder than usual here this winter and it's been fine. I purchased it half dead on discount along with an azalea and THAT mf won't do SHIT
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>>4950148
what is with the wire?
I am in central MS and when it started getting cold I brought mine inside and clipped off the leaves that turned to mush because it barely got under freezing one night. Anyway, it slooooowly grew back and replaced what I had to cut, and after a few months I changed the pot, moved it to a better location and gave it a ton of water. It grew new green stems..inches OVERNIGHT. So I dunno. When it stops cooling off I'll put it back outside
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>>4956780
dude i have picture this and i love the damn thing. I literally pay 6.99 a month that really isn't much at all. it's definitely worth it. I used to pay like 2.99 every two weeks or something but idk how that worked or what happened
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>>4959816
>>4959730

I may not like it, but I guess this is the way. Thanks anons.
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I got some adromischus cooperi var. festivus awhile ago and they were doing well. Saw some of the leaves becoming wrinkled so gave the first water of the spring but it's been a few days now and the leaves are still wrinkled. Moisture meter and my finger stays there's still moisture in the soil. Do I just leave it?
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I planted a bunch of seeds in these pots to replant in a balcony trough in a month or two. The troughs are currently empty and I have fresh soil. Should I fill the troughs already or should I wait until it's almost time to transfer the pots into the troughs before putting the soil in there?
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>>4960203
Check the roots. Are they healthy? Not been gobbled up by root bugs over the Winter?
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Got a watering can, I sorta feel like a poof but it's certainly a lot more comfortable to use desu.

>>4960309
If you're using soil with coco coir or sphagnum moss then it would be better to wait, they can become hydrophobic if they're dry/under the sun for too long and it's a pain to get them to absorb water again. If it's just plain garden soil then it shouldn't matter either way.
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>>4960309
Second one is better.
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>Summer ending
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I'm thinking of growing saffron
I grow terrestrial orchids and every year I'm constantly splitting them up and I'm sick of it but I can't bring myself to throw the corms away but with Saffron it'd be easier since you need so many corms to get a decent harvest
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so this is an incredible long shot but i am trying to find the name of a grass that grows in the arctic and is abundant around a spring we get water from.

it looks like an upside down pine needle thingy, pic related, as in the leaves grow downwards

it has a very faint scent when sniffed directly but is increased when rubbed on skin. it smells kind of like shitty perfume.

i tried to search for it but people only care about the pretty and interesting plants and this one is very basic i guess. i even tried describing it to AI but it could not identify it either.
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>>4960679
my uncle knew, it is Rhododendron tomentosum.
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>>4960656
Do it. Post your results.
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>>4943862
You might need to do some good research. I made a good list once, but haven't used it. Unfortunately it's only useful in Tucson, AZ

Basically what I did was go to iNaturalist in my area, looked up a bunch of the native butterflies, focusing on the threatened ones, and got a list of as many host plants as I could find from wikipedia.
Put in some food plants, some host plants, and wait and viola, you have a butterfly garden and can pretend you're doing some good.

Find some endangered moth or butterflies and plant their host plants. Good news is that almost all of them are endangered anyways and there won't be any more bugs in 50 years.
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>>4960679
This is actually a common grass native to temperate North America
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I think i beat the fungus gnat infestation. It's been over a week since I've seen even a single adult one, which was caught in a sticky trap.
Still going to use bits in the water and water as all the plants I can via their dishes of course.
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My first conophytums flowered from seed and damn, even though it's like 6 mm wide and a plain if a bit transparent white I think I'm going to sow some more conophytums this year
Don't think there's any better feeling in this hobby than that
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>>4960734
Yeah I ordered 20 corms
Might as well invest in them now and get exponential growth for the future
In 2 years time I will be here whining about having to repot my growing saffron collection
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>>4961327
Nice. I should order some too



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