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Our beloved Christmas traditions, stemming from White Christian Europe, are all based in Christianity and Christian traditions, yet every year Christians have to endure masses of hysterical, raging Jews, Freemasons, atheists, pagans, Mohammedan immigrants, mentally ill sexual perverts, Hindus, Satanists et al., who either do not know what they are talking about, or are pathologically lying and just repeating ad nauseam that Christmas is totally pagan. Nothing could be further from the truth.

When you have an agrarian society, you will always have an event or celebration marking the changing days or seasons. People will be celebrating when the days get longer or shorter as a milestone, and that is irrespective of paganism, the celebration our ancestors had were geared by the annual changes seen in nature. This is normal and is not "because" of paganism, there is nothing in paganism making it special, or anything close to what we developed in Christendom, for what we now take for granted as Christmas time, in paganism it is all about nature and essentially changing weather. Paganism just parasitically latched on to that, and the pagan societies would just slap pagan themes on top, paganism isn't the core and never was.

Christianity gave purpose and meaning to this time on a much deeper level, it changed everything in Europe for our ancestors, in Christendom we developed beautiful, rich and theologically based traditions for the entire time, we call it Christmas time, the time when the Light has come into the world, for peace and goodwill towards men, this brought the warm traditions and atmosphere that we love and now take for granted (and miss as the Christian influence that made Christmas what it is has been attacked and eroded).
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>>21786865
In the early church, they believed that a prophet should die on the same day that he was conceived. The early church had Jesus' death as occurring on the 25th of March, add 9 months, and we get to December 25th. Christians were doing their own calculations, irrespective of the pagans and pagan traditions. In pagan societies there were multiple deities, gods and goddesses, and they would have many festivals and celebrations for them throughout the entire year. In Ancient Rome for example there was not one month of the year free of these festivals (feriae), so it would be almost impossible for Christians to choose a date that didn't coincide with one of the many pagan festivals. Our beautiful and peaceful Christian celebrations developed in Christendom were and are very different from the many pagan celebrations, the Ancient Roman scholar Varro defined these pagan festivals as "days instituted for the sex of the gods."

The early church calculations concluding December 25th as the date to celebrate Jesus' birth ironically was one of the few dates that didn't have pagan celebrations on it, but even if there had been an overlap it would be irrelevant to Christians, and it certainly would not be "stealing" any pagan festival.
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>>21786865
Abominations such as Levi Jensen should be destroyed at birth. Happy Saturnalia
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>>21786865
do reindeers live in yahweh's desert?
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>>21786865
>Christmas traditions, stemming from White Christian Europe
kek
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>>21786869
The paid Jewish spammers and bots are here within seconds. What a joke, and with nothing of substance of course.
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>>21786871
Have a good Yule, Levi
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>>21786871
>first reply is christcuck spam
Nice try jew
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St. Nick was a Hellenic Turk.
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>>21786867
>>21786868
Are you perpetually online or something? Everytime we're posting this thread you just jump in with these lies, and you just keep repeating them, this is ridiculous and not organic, are you monitoring and stalking pol, this isn't normal and it's very obvious to everyone at this point.
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>>21786865
The Christmas tree has no connection to paganism or any documented pagan tradition, but is based on Saint Boniface and his confrontation with the pagans:
>Based St. Boniface stopped pagans who were preparing a human sacrifice at a "holy" oak tree
>The "sacred" oak tree was supposed to be protected by the mighty pagan gods, but St. Boniface struck it down with a single blow of his axe.
>This shocked the onlooking pagans who then decided to convert to Christianity, the true religion
>According to tradition all this occurred during Christmas Eve
After the pagans converted to Christianity, St. Boniface told them to take the evergreen fir tree (see pic.) as a symbol of life and the birth of Christ. This is the origin of the Christmas tree.
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*bans Christmas in your path*
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>>21786865
A baby jew in a manger in jew land is a christian celebration.
Everything else is a winter solstice observance which has nothing to do with the jew you worship.
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>>21786876
All pagan practices in their core are the same all over the world, as the gods they worship (aka demons) are also the same all over the world. A commonality in many pagan traditions around the world (whether the pagans are from Africa, Europe, Asia or the Americas), is the practise of human sacrifice. All real occultists know that there is more demonic activity and power around areas or objects where there has been a violent death or evil act (esp. if against a human).

In addition to appeasing the pagan gods/spirits (aka demons) through the practise of human sacrifice, the magnitude of the power will correlate with the amount of pain inflicted on the victim before death, meaning the longer you torture, and ensure maximum pain is drawn out before the victim dies, the stronger the spiritual power you will gain. Furthermore, as real occultists also know, if the evil act can be bound to an organic object, like a tree, this power will be concentrated there (esp. accumulated with time and victims) and be more easily harnessed and interact with the pagan worshipers.

That's why the practise of torturing people to death in a sacrifice or ritual, and variations of these "holy" trees (i.e. "holy" sites) have been found and recorded all over the world, whether in the brown Americas or black Africa until just the last hundred years with the introduction of a Christian morality and worldview. Pagan American Indians practised human sacrifice rampantly, including North American Indians (the pagan wooden Totem poles found and displayed across North America were such "sacred" places for the indians). No wonder Varg says that all pagans worship the same pagan "gods" under different names. No wonder white Europeans fell to the level of blacks in Africa when we were practicing paganism. The Donar's oak (which St. Boniface felled) was the "sacred" oak used for human sacrifices in Germanic paganism, no different to the savage pagans of Africa, Asia, the Americas etc.
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>>21786865
Pagans used their trees for worship and blood ritual sacrifice, not warm, wholesome decorations in the home, centred around the birth of Jesus Christ into this world.
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>>21786875
>Everytime we're posting this thread
careful, youre going to out your shill group
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>>21786866
>The early church calculations concluding December 25th as the date to celebrate Jesus' birth ironically was one of the few dates that didn't have pagan celebrations on it
Everything in your posts is utter nonsense
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>>21786865
Yule in paganism was not on the 25th of December, that came from Christianity with the Norwegian Christian King Håkon Håkonsson, who made it law that Yule would be celebrated not on Hogmanay but with the Christian holy day of Christmas. This was recorded by Snorri Sturluson (who lived in 1179–1241 AD), who also recorded the Viking sagas. Much of the information we have on the Vikings and know about them (including Norse mythology) was due to him.

If pagans want to celebrate Yule again, they should do it in the traditional pagan way, on the pagan dates, rather than stealing and cherry-picking what they like from Christian Christmas while calling it "pagan" Yule.

The painting "Birkebeinerne" by Knud Bergslien from 1869 shows the Birkebeiners Torstein Skevla and Skjervald Skrukka transporting the little Håkon Håkonsson, the king's son, to Nidarhos in 1206 AD.
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>>21786865
Nice try faggot, Christmas is a Capitalist anti-communist holiday not pagan, not christian, nor communist. You have to be rich to have a merry Christmas in which you also become a philanthrope
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>>21786880
Winter solstice celebrations have always been about coming together and warding off the cold and darkness through the winter both physically and spiritually.
You rabid jew worshipers can never understand.

Jerusalem is too far south to really understand the meaning.
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>>21786881
We are just two persons, newfag. And this is the fourth time we are posting this thread in two years, debunking your pagan lies.
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>>21786879
Yahweh is a demon, he loves infanticide and munching foreskins
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>>21786875
>we're
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>>21786866
They intentionally put it a few days off from the solstice in order to separate us from God and the cycles of this realm that are echoed through all of creation both physical and spiritual.

Jew worshipers despise truth and light.
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>>21786874
Here is why these paid Jewish spammers have such a vile and demonic hatred for Jesus Christ and Christmas, pic.


Painting: A Rabbi by Vasily Vereshchagin (1842-1904)
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>>21786886
>trust me we arent an organized shill group
>i have kept record of our shill threads though over four years
kek
whatever you say jew worshiper
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>>21786891
Cry some more Jews.

This is what they hate and fear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXpOvSv37Kk
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>>21786865
Jews love Pagan Yule, and have a raging hatred for Christmas and Jesus Christ.
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>>21786892
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXpOvSv37Kk
remove the cross and they look just like rabbis
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>>21786865
The pagan celebration "Sol Invictus" was revived in the 3rd century AD and records linking it to December 25th only date back to the middle of the 4th century AD (earlier sources are inconsistent placing it during August, October, early December), this is after Christians already had calculated and chosen December 25th as the day of Jesus' birth. Christianity was on the rise organically while paganism was declining already, therefore it is more likely that it was actually pagans copying the Christians and trying to rearrange the date of their celebrations to coincide with Christmas to compete with Christians.
https://youtu.be/5zcaQlBbk6s?si=UVFaonym0YLCHXUD&t=194


Pic: Jewish band named themselves "Faith no more" titled their album "Sol Invictus", hostile to Christianity, positive to paganism and promoting atheism to goyim.
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>>21786892
>false accusation of being jewish
do you have anything else or is this false accusation it?

jew worshipers always resort to this ad infinitum when they are defeated
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>>21786865
Christmas is a universal celebration. The goal of Christmas is to remember the message of the Christ. And the message of the Christ is not about exclusion.
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>>21786891
Newfag.
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>>21786895
Dionysian festivals predate christmas and were on the 25, nice try levi
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>>21786865
thanks man. God Bless.
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>>21786875
These trannies literally have no other interests in life but to shit the board up. Imagine.
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>Bells as decoration in the home and on various objects are a symbol of Church bells.
Church bells ringing out the Good News Jesus Christ, our Saviour and Lord is born. Having bells in Europe [Christendom] has very strong Christian roots, relating to the driving out demons and evil, and dates back to Medieval times.
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>>21786865
>Red is the color of Christmas, a symbol of the Blood of Jesus Christ
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin (1Jn 1:7)
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>>21786890
>make spam thread about jewish faith
>accuse others of jewish spam
kek
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>>21786865
>Gifts during the Christmas time period have many Christian connotations, there is Saint Nicholas [feast day is on the 6th of December] giving gifts to children, as well as a symbol of the three wise men bearing gifts to Jesus Christ, and finally, Jesus Christ, who gave himself as a gift to mankind.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time (1Ti 2:5-6)


Pic. Nieritz' Jugendbibliothek
Ein Weihnachtsbaum
In der Weihnachtszeit
Weihnachtsspenden
Neun Jugend-Erzählungen aus der Jugendbibliothek von Gustav Nieritz
Illustrationen: Prof. E. Offterdinger
Felix Bagel Verlag
(Düsseldorf / Deutschland; 1890)
ex libris MTP
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Gustav_Nieritz
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>>21786865
>Having candles on a Christmas tree is a symbol for Jesus Christ [1]
The Christian link here is very clear-cut. Jesus spoke to them, saying, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” (Joh 8:12)

[1] Martin Luther, the 16th-century Protestant reformer, first added lighted candles to a tree.
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>>21786865
>Longer days, in Christianity there is important symbolism where we move (are shown, saved) from darkness to light
...because of the tender mercy of our God, whereby the sunrise shall visit us from on high to give light to those who sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace (Luk 1:78-79)
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>>21786865
>Santa Claus is a Satanic and heavily Jewish pushed perversion of Saint Nicholas (Dutch: Sinterklaas)
+ Saint Nicholas of Myra was a 4th-century Greek Christian bishop of Myra
+ Nicholas was famous for his generous gifts to the poor
+ In particular aiding the three daughters of an impoverished father, so that they would not be sold into prostitution
+ He did this by placing gold in some stockings and hanging them on their front door
+ He was very religious from an early age and devoted his life entirely to Christianity.

- A long holiday celebrating Jesus Christ as Messiah enrages Jews to no end
- Judeo-masonic media have managed to push Jesus Christ and Christianity out of Christmas
https://www.bitchute.com/video/L5p4jZIaw6KC/
- Santa is an anagram for Satan.
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>>21786865
>Christmas - Mass of Christ
A mass service, also known as communion or Eucharist, where we remember what Jesus Christ did for us on the cross

Finally, saturnalia was never celebrated at the same time as Christmas (the Nativity). Saturnalia was celebrated initially on December 17th- 23rd, which does not fall on Christmas which is on December 25th.


More here;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21dsrfbvSh8
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>>21786865
Christmas is 100% Christian. Our traditions, and customs go back for centuries, including in my family for near a thousand years.
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>>21786898
do you have anything else or is this false accusation it?

jew worshipers always resort to this ad infinitum when they are defeated
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Like all christians OP is brown and has a small cock: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/441430610/#q441438742
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>>21786865
Pic. Winter Landscape, probably 1811 by Caspar David Friedrich (1774–1840)

A Christmas Miracle, we see here an example of a man being miraculously healed and has fallen before the cross giving thanks to God, his crutches lie thrown away, no longer needed, the church he was leaving (or heading towards) lying majestically on the horizon.
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>>21786865
Top 10 Christmas traditions and their origin stories, showing these traditions are Christian and not pagan:

>10. Krampus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=40s

>9. Yule logs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=159s

>8. Mistletoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=286s

>7. Nativity Scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=348s

>6. Gift giving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=385s

>5. Stockings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=441s

>4. Santa Claus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=503s

>3. Father Christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=602s

>2. Christmas Trees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=644s

>1. December 25th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEQW-NPqWI&t=810s
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>>21786906
nice islamic headgear
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>>21786865
Jesus Christ was the foundation of our European civilization, Christendom, and the centre of Christmas for nearly 2000 years.
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>>21786865
After the godless boomers ditched Christianity and embraced atheism and paganism, Christmas has turned into a materialistic, god-hating, globohomo, multicultural, multiracial, open borders degenerate celebration.
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>>21786865
Elena Kagan on Christmas: "Like all Jews, I was probably at a Chinese restaurant." (June 29, 2010)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooAtySpObLw
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>>21786865
Text: “They always go to Him”
“The divine Child in the Manger always powerfully/strongly attracts the little children of France to Him, despite the claw of the atheistic schools which tries/endeavours to restrain them.”
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>>21786865
Text: “Rain of gifts”
“- My little Populo [rabble], I gave myself my little Christmas gifts; in turn, I offer you yours...
choose! or rather don’t choose, take everything! ...all this is for you.”

The Freemasonic bloc is dressed up as Father Christmas (twisting/deceiving) who for themselves have taken money from the French people and their Churches.
In the background we have the word Impose, meaning “Enforced” everywhere, meaning this wasn’t the freewill of the French people, it wasn’t what they wanted it was forced upon them (and others were lied to/manipulated, while others were hedonist traitors).

The ‘gifts’ in return that the Freemasons are giving to the French people include imports (e.g. imported sugar or import on titles of nobility). Cheap liquor.
Loan of 62 million - getting France and their descendants into debt, that is essentially resulting in the money going into the pockets of corrupt Jews and Freemasons.
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>>21786912
not just that, the polish flag is also Levi Jensen, I caught him
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/491249002/#491253321

the absolute fucking state of putrid christovermin
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>>21786913
Lovely piece
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>>21786865
Show me in the Bible where it talks about Christmas
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>>21786869
>do reindeers live in yahweh's desert
What does that have to do with anything exactly?

>>21786870
Yes, CHRISTmas traditions as we know them and understand them today, the ones we love and the spirit people in Europe and the West miss ... are Christian, that is correct, writing kek doesn't change or debunk that (wrongly applied, sad).
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>>21786865

0/10 ragebait

> OP is an ignorant shill, every date on Xmas is pagan and has astrological significance.
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>>21786923
You are paid Jewish spammers and your only goal here is to shit up /pol/ as hard as you can and make sure there is no fruitful debate here, no knowledge being shared.

Lies, smear, mudslinging and blapshemy is all you have. Case in point:

>not just that, the polish flag is also Levi Jensen, I caught him
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/491249002/#491253321
Same lie by this Jew with Italian flag again and again, of course never ever being able to answer even the most basic questions regarding Italy,

The Levi Jensen rambling is just more typical Jewish mudslinging, totally taken out of their hairy and stinky Jewish asses. I dare you ugly Jews to present your best argument that I am Levi Jensen.
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cope fuck your dumb jew-worship. christmas is a european holiday rooted in european blood that predates even your dumb desert cult.
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>>21786926
Levi you are by a long shot the most embarrassing long time poster on /pol/, in denial even when caught
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>>21786922
Thank you frens, Merry Christmas.
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>>21786928
Go cry some more, stupid Jews. I dare you to document or at least substantiate your retarded and infantile claims.
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>>21786930
Show me a single verse in the Bible that specifies Christmas
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>>21786865
Notice you'll never see claims that Hannukah is not jewish, or that kwanzaa are not african. Despite being celebrated on the 25th and 26th respectively.
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>St. Nick was a Hellenic Turk.
You cannot say Saint Nicholas was a "Hellenic Turk" when he was born in 270 AD, Hellenic? yes he was Greek, but Turk? This was centuries before Turkey and Turks even existed, they came from Mongolia, do you know Europan history at all? Mohammedan Turks aren't native to what is currently labelled "Turkey", they invaded and plundered Byzantium (finally taking Constantinople in 1453 AD).
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>>21786931
Show me anything in the pagan bible that specifies holding a mass for Christ at Christmas. At a wild guess, Christmas may be Christian.
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>>21786931
It all depends how you define Christmas and what claim did I make that you think is false?
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>>21786869
>shill
Fuck off nigger
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>>21786935
There are no "pagan" Bibles, so you dont make sense
>>21786936
First of all its unkown the correct date when Jesus died, its a supposition that it was on the 25th second of all nowhere in the Bible can you find anything about Christmas. Also NONE of the Apostles talked about celebrating the death of Jesus
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>>21786874
>slander
Fuck off roach
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>>21786933
>oh no, he has a copypasta folder to deboonk yearly jewish arguments! not on my 4chins!
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>>21786933
She is my Polish fiancée, newfag. You Jews larping as pagancucks are spamming the same debunked lies again and again, ad nauseam, so logically you are forcing the debunking to be more or less the same as well.
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>>21786938
>There are no "pagan" Bibles
Exactly my point.
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>my skin is so putridly brown I pretend I don't notice it's two different country flags just as ITT
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>She is my Polish fiancée
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>21786942
Your point being what? There are pagan religious books that detail the ceremonies but they are not Bibles where they narrate the history and other nonsense
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>>21786938
>irst of all its unkown the correct date when Jesus died, its a supposition that it was on the 25th second of all nowhere in the Bible can you find anything about Christmas.
This has already been dealt with. Read the thread
>Also NONE of the Apostles talked about celebrating the death of Jesus
1. Christmas is not about the DEATH of Jesus Christ,Jew
2. Nobody made that claim in this thread, so what are you ranting about, Shlomo?
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>Everything else is a winter solstice observance which has nothing to do with the jew you worship.
Agreed Christmas doesn't have anything to do with the pagan winter solstice, that is correct. Christmas is about the birth of Christ and that is what the pre-boomer European traditions we celebrate throughout West are about.

>>21786882
>Everything in your posts is utter nonsense
How about you debunk with the evidence, rather than just stating it and pretending your random statement means anything or settles anything. That's not enough.
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>>21786865
I mean...the sun and the seasons and the winter solstice and the suns lowest visable point occured before jesus was born.

That's it. One came before the other. Seethe as hard as you want, but that's how time works. Jesus didn't achieve CHIM and retroactively make himself a god ALWAYS. That's just fucking silly. The sun existed before he was born and human civilization recognized the Solar cycle and formed our seasonal holidays around its movements. Sorry.

But then again, someone who worships a god who looks like a man and man's written words in general WOULD be silly.

You clearly have an idea about the term "paganism" that isnt relevant to reality.
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>>21786943
>oh no, he's using a VPN to circumvent a ban! not on my 4chins!
I suppose you think it's jewish bot farms making pro-Christian posts like these. Also, project more ya big nosed arab rape baby.
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>>21786944
She is a virgin, beautiful as a model, a sophisticated devout Catholic and probably close to double your IQ, Shlomo. Why all this pathetic and infantile kvetching from you?
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>>21786946
We dont know the exact date of birth of Jesus either and neither does the Bible or the Apostles say that we need to celebrate his birth. The only thing the Bible says is that Jesus is the only way you can achieve salvation from the evil that God himself made.
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>She is a virgin, beautiful as a model, a sophisticated devout Catholic and probably close to double your IQ, Shlomo. Why all this pathetic and infantile kvetching from you?
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>>21786941
>She is my Polish fiancée, newfag

shut up levi
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>>21786865
This guy thinks that thousands of years of living around the seasonal change DOESN'T create the layers of tradition that turn into religion (a la Paganism pre Christianity) but one white guy writing down a fictional story DOES. Lol.

Imagine worshipping the word or mind of mortal men. Imagine following gods that only exist as long as you talk about them.

Kek. Lol, even.
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>She is a virgin, beautiful as a model, a sophisticated devout Catholic and probably close to double your IQ, Shlomo. Why all this pathetic and infantile kvetching from you?
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>>21786951
>We dont know the exact date of birth of Jesus either and neither does the Bible or the Apostles say that we need to celebrate his birth.
Again, already dealt with in this thread.
>The only thing the Bible says is that Jesus is the only way you can achieve salvation from the evil that God himself made.
Where did anyone claim otherwise and what is your point?
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>>21786865
Look kid, winter is a time where things die and everybody hides in their holes to stay warm. The festivities of Christmas don't have to be a religious thing. From my perspective its a way to liven up the colds dead winter. We spread good will and gift giving to keep people happy and warm. Truth be told January and February are probably the coldest times of the year where I live but still. I don't think about Jesus when I think about Christmas and even so I still use the term Christmas because that's what it fucking is. Merry fucking Christmas from an atheist!
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>>21786865
Putting up spruce trees and decorating them with all sorts of neat stuff seems way more pagan than christian desu. The christian shit is far more tacked on to the traditional juletme celebrations than all the gift giving, eating and festivities are.
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>>21786956
Stop being a faggot and stop talking nonsense you christian retard
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>>21786956
"Muh fictional man written text supsecedes thousands of years of actual lived reality on this planet"
Just go worship Tolkien and Gandalf already.
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>>21786945
>Your point being what?
They don't have a mass for Christ, so the pagan holiday is by definition not Christian.
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>>21786865
God Jul!
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>>21786958
The OP probably has no idea who Constantine was and why its called "Sunday" either. Hes one of the ones who thinks life began he was born.
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>>21786949
according to him, it's not a VPN but his "wife"
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>>21786865
Christianity is a sand nigger religion and jesus christ a jewish brown sand nigger.
I won't worship sandniggers.
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>>21786952
>>21786953
>>21786955
I told you spamming Jews in the thread that I could describe the inside of model agencies in London and Milano. You all ran the hell away. You will never be tall, blonde and Nordic, ugly Jews. Sorry. No need to hate us White Christians because of that and wishing to genocide us, demonic Jews. Repent.
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>>21786884
>Nice try faggot, Christmas is a Capitalist anti-communist holiday not pagan, not christian, nor communist. You have to be rich to have a merry Christmas in which you also become a philanthrope
Well this is just incorrect. To say Christmas isn't Christian because ZOG (((US))) corporations pushed coca-cola in the media and commercialised it is retarded. What you're saying is it's been corrupted and usurped by a anti-Christian 5th column who hate Christianity and Christ and wanted to remove that from the culture, and then the boomers and increase in atheism and secularism just absorbed that gladly. What you're describing is the de-Christianisation of Christmas, that is important to resist and return back to the true meaning of Christmas, as our ancestors celebrated for centuries before the post-WWII consensus takeover occurred. I agree and always disliked the commercialisation of Christmas and making it about materialism, so I didn't understand growing up why I disliked it so much, but now I do.

Also being anti-communist is a good thing, that said, you do not have to be rich to celebrate a traditional Christmas, that wasn't what it was about traditionally, like I said , that kicked in after WWII and really took off with the boomers and now post-boomer society. We all know what was meant by "Christmas spirit" and goodwill, from the pre-boomer Europe, and it doesn't reflect what you wrote at all.
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>>21786966
>my-father-works-at-nintendoing his way out of this
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>>21786966
>I told you spamming Jews in the thread that I could describe the inside of model agencies in London and Milano

Ok, so do it
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>>21786963
The christtard larp is especially amusing when it comes from a norwegian when christianity is basically fucking dead or at least wholly secularized in all of the nordic countries. The only people who practice christianity seriously in our nations are basically just coocky fundies that are utterly irrelevant in terms of actual politics.

The Lutheran Church of Finland has had openly gay priests and shit for like, a decade now for example. Nobody takes the crhistlarp seriously.
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>>21786869
Kek this one post caused a lot of seethe
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>>21786970
>christianity is basically fucking dead
Muslims are celebrating Christmas in my country. We're just getting started you godless slant.
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>>21786962
Jeg ønsker deg en riktig god og fredelig jul, fren :)
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So...are all Christians itt Catholics?Protestants?Something else?
In b4 it doesnt matter
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>>21786975
terminal internet christian, heretical to 99.9% of denominations that ever existed and xist but absolutely convinced they are True Christianity
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>>21786975
the orbs donald
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>>21786972
Right. Because in modern 2024, celebrating christmas is NOT an exclusively Christian tradition.
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>>21786926
>maybe if i cast false accusation again i can overcome the truth
nope, its never gonna work jew worshiper
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>>21786885
>Winter solstice celebrations have always been about coming together and warding off the cold and darkness through the winter both physically and spiritually.
Please explain where you get that from the pagan sources that the "winter solstice celebrations have ALWAYS been about coming together and warding off the cold and darkness".
Which pagan traditions are you talking about? There were Roman, Germanic, Celtic, Albanian, Asian etc. there was variations in how they celebrated. For example the Ancient Roman scholar Varro defined their [pagan] festivals as "days instituted for the sex of the gods." That doesn't reflect your romanticised invented version.
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>>21786865
You are so narcissistic, the norm on this board.
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>>21786979
>>21786980
lol, desperate Jews unable to defend their pagancuck mythology that Christmas is not Christian but pagan, trying divert to the conversation.
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>>21786972
Nigger, everyone fucking celebrates christmas, just not in any sort of christian way. People give gifts, eat christmas foods, spend time with their families and loved ones, get drunk and what not, while churches remain more or less empty barring the aforementioned fundies and old grannies.
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>>21786979
>>21786980
You Jews love pagans so much and hate Christianity with such a burning hatred, that you can't say Christmas, but either say X-mas or more likely, just adopt the pagan name Yule you like so much. Jews and pagans are more or less the same.
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>>21786986
>29 posts by this incel pseudo-intellectual.
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>>21786865
your book explicitly tells you not to do this shit

Jeremiah 10:3-4
"Do not take the godless nations as your models. Don't be impressed by their glamour and glitz, no matter how much they're impressed. The customs of the peoples are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not"
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>>21786881
>careful, youre going to out your shill group
Newfag. This is just one example.
>The FRENCH REVOLUTION - What your gay, marxist, atheist college (((professor))) didn't tell you!
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/298686442

This time she was in England.
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>>21786982
every single winter solstice celebration from those who lived in regions with real winters marked these things
look into any of the ones youve mentioned

those who survived valued these spirits and owed their survival to them, it isnt rocket science but your jew addled brain cant comprehend the things that carry us through the natural cycle of this realm which is echoed through all of creation both physical and spiritual which is symbolized in the swastika

these things are not needed for survival of peoples in winterless climates like that found in jerusalem and is why you dont see anything like this from the israelites in the bible
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>>21786888
>>21786891
There are two of us (can you not see?), which is very obvious, that wasn't some sort of gottcha you know :/
We have Christmas coming up soon and we're posting a Christmas thread about the true meaning of Christmas and its origins, it's like a little tradition, and actual people can see the difference between genuine people vs trolls, there is enough crap trying to sh*t up /pol/, there is nothing wrong with two people posting a CHRISTmas thread during Christmas period, I'm sure there are many people who appreciate the variation from the actual shills that try to ruin the board.
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>>21786989
>Le Jews!
The 80yo ypungperson. Tpuch grass.
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>>21786984
Hitler and the NSDAP was not Christian you retarded faggot. Merry Yule! I hope you have your julleutcher.
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Putting prayer back in school would make the dumb ones seethe. Which is okay, there is a correlation between evil and stupidity.
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>>21786989
>actually check out my shill posts
i am very well aware of your constant seething revilement and false accusations youve been posting on /pol/ for years now
you have proven yourself a devoted liar, incapable of truth
even in the face of passages from your own bible which condemn your approach you double down to no end, this proves you do not believe what you are peddling, the only conclusion is that you are a shill
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>>21786865
>beautiful, rich and theologically based traditions
Lol, Christmas is anything but that (and all our traditions likewise), and Christmas is not Christian, not the Christmas we know today, that's a totally materialistic consumerist hollow bullshit "holy day", nothing holy about it. Christmas used to be Christian but it was very different, and was a minor holiday, retail turned it into the biggest holiday of the year and the abomination that it is today. Jews wrote all Christmas songs, deliberately erased everything about Jesus from it and made it all about snow and reindeer and whatnot. There is nothing Christian about buying junk and giving to each other, or decorating a small tree, or any of the other meaningsless and outright satanic bullshit that is Christmas in the present day.
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>>21786884
>Nice try faggot, Christmas is a Capitalist anti-communist holiday not pagan, not christian, nor communist.
For godless boomers maybe, not for us devout Christians. Jews and Masons have been pushing for a Christ-free Christmas for centuries. We don't care. That is between you and God.
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>>21786865
Jesus wasn't even a real person, you dummies

>pic related
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>>21786991
mhm, two in the same shill group
you wont save face

the celebration of the solstice, the completion of the yule has nothing to do with your jew worship, tacking the jew you worship on to it, changing the name, and moving it a couple days off the solstice is subversion which has separated us from god and what has been given to us
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>>21786865
well strictly speaking the fact that it originates from saturnalia doesn't mean it's the same as saturnalia; much how a beam isn't a tree despite a certain continuity of matter between the two.

but it remains that the christmas celebration was somewhat engineered to overlay the pagan holiday and owes many bits of its aesthetic to those origins.

we can never pretend we weren't christian, but we also can't pretend we weren't pagan. anyone seeking to cut off part of our path is a rogue ideologue privileging ideas over people.
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Jars Of Clay – Liquid
https://youtu.be/04Yc3cVLAGI

Jars Of Clay – Flood
https://youtu.be/EfAhpX_wIBk

Jars Of Clay – Love Song For A Savior
https://youtu.be/CeF1CNT1A5s

Jars Of Clay – Worlds Apart
https://youtu.be/W-0eiy6mNEo
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>>21786999
it's literally the same person lmao >>21786921
>>21786933
>>21786974
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>>21786885
>Winter solstice celebrations have always been about coming together and warding off the cold and darkness through the winter both physically and spiritually.
>You rabid jew worshipers can never understand.
I am, among other things, a mountaineer. I am Norwegian. Your ramble makes zero sense. Love of nature is predominantly a thing found in Christendom. Not in Islam, not in Hindustan paganism, if you exclude worshiping one of the most toxic and polluted rivers in the world as a goddess and drinking it etc. But love of nature in itself, by itself, is a Christian thing not often found in other cultures and civilizations.
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>>21786998
is that what you were taught?
L2RV back in time scrub.
>>21786921
nothing wrong with a wicked person coming back to God.
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>>21786998
Get lost Jewish spammer. pic. To claim that Jesus Christ never existed is beyond retarded. Not even Bart Ehrman is stupid enough to make that claim.
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OP is the deranged christcuck Levi Jensen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBgVDBTzYzo
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>>21787004
>L2RV back in time scrub.
Speak English please Schlomo
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>>21787003
>Love of nature is predominantly a thing found in Christendom.
lmao, abrahamics abhor nature
you arent fooling anyone jew worshiper

our winter solstice celebrations played a specific role in our place in the cycle symbolized in the swastika
you cannot change this
worshiping a jew will never have real significance to our solstice observances
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>>21787005
>To claim that Jesus Christ never existed is beyond retarded.
Then explain why Paul never mentions a historical Jesus in any of his letters, not even once
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>>21786897
Christmas is about the birth of Christ, the saviour of the world, that is the core, if you really want to break down to the basics. It's a Christian celebration, just like Eid is a mohammedan one, this isn't complicated boomer.
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If christmas were so christian, then why don't you fags celebrate it in september, when jesus born, and not around the time that two of the most mjaor pagan holidays in the Mediterranean and northern europe were celebrated
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>>21787006
noo no *wink wink*, but he definitely thinks this deformed jew creatura is a "national hero"
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/492036516/#492061034
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>>21786865
Danuta Mrzyk
-Born to a devout patriotic peasant family, her father was a forester.
-Finished high school after WWII
-1949 founded with her friends a underground independence organisation “Szarotka”
-Arrested in 1950 and sentenced to prison by the military court in Bydgoszcz
-While in custody she sang Christmas carols Wśród nocnej ciszy -“In the silence of the night, the voice spreads. Rise up shepherds, God is born to us!”
-Beaten by the UB [Polish version of NKVD] and placed in a penitentiary, no medial aid was given
-She died in the prison hospital in 1951
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>>21787011
they know its because jew worshipers had to subvert the winter solstice to separate us from the sun and the cycle of this realm
they wont admit it, but they know this is the truth
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>>21787006
The rabidly anti-Christian homosexual tranny, literally, from Antirasistisk Senter (Anti-Racist Center, Norway), who can't speak a word of Norwegian, is here again
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/484971679/#484974933


>OP is the deranged christcuck Levi Jensen
Show me how you reached that conclusion. Use documented facts and logic only. Make me laugh, faggot.
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>>21787008
>lmao, abrahamics abhor nature
Show me civilizations outside Christendom painting nature alone. Show me civilizations before any contact with Christendom, having national parks, preservering nature etc. Do it.
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>>21787015
>uses the same wordage as used by ben shapiro
>expects people not to assume hes a jew
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>>21787007
>be seething kike
>or sand nigger doing tequlla
either way come back to Christ. He is good and his mercy endures forever.
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>>21787016
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>>21786865
>Christianity gave purpose and meaning to this time on a much deeper level
>without worshipping a Jew nothing means anything
Christians are fucking pathetic
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>>21787018
>either way come back to Christ. He is good and his mercy endures forever.
He wasn't even real, mate.
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>>21787018
>Jew
>good
I think not
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>>21787003
>Love of nature is predominantly a thing found in Christendom
the guy who's religion goes out of its way to emphasize that nature is an imperfect creation by god and that the excessive love of it is idolatry is going to tell the pagans who literally worshipped nature incarnated as a powerful goddess (Gaia, Jorth) and who practiced their faith by praying and meditating in nature and in sacred groves that HE'S the more nature-loving of the two
When will the we wuzzing end?
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>>21787016
it is our blood and connection to creation that makes us revere nature
abrahamics abhor nature, their places of worship hide from nature, theres no such thing as a sacred grove in jew worship

>national parks are le christian
lmfao give me a break retard
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>>21787017
You rabid and paid Jews are just posting endless shit. That's all you do. Your hatred for Jesus Christ is demonic, pic related.
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>>21787015
nice digits. I'm going to call their phones. Come at me Interpol you stupid cocksuckers.

In the name of Jesus, PICK UP THE PHONE

Feds are embarrassed and are framing Luigi. EVERYONE KNOWS YOU RETARDS
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>>21787025
>more false accusations
you only vindicate my position against you with your inability to refrain from this blatant falsehood

keep lying for the semite you worship
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>>21786915
>nice islamic headgear
A veil is not Islamic headgear. Mohammedan women wear primarily hijabs, and they look quite different (the hijab has a distinct look, different to that of a veil, when you become more familiar with how it looks you'll spot the difference immediately). That aside, veils predate Islam, Mary wore a veil, our depictions of her in Christendom for the last 2000 years was independent of Islam, they predate Islam by centuries and she's wearing a veil.
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>>21787026
You have no clue about National Socialism. Translate pic and explain. Give context, but you can't.

1. You are not Norwegian
2. You have no clue about our European history
3. You have no idea what National Socialism really is.

You are nothing but a paid shill and fake as plastic Nazi. Prove me wrong, faggot.
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looks like Levi used to also have a british fiancee with the same exact filenames and arguments HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
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>>21787003
>Love of nature is predominantly a thing found in Christendom
That's just untrue. The most basic tenet of Christianity is "this world is corrupt/fallen". Christians don't give a shit about the Real world because they believe there's a whole nother magical world they'll go to when they die. Why care about litter or pollution when this world is so temporary and meaningless?
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Church is starting soon.

https://youtu.be/BIfegqMH2Jk
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>>21787031
lel, shill exposed
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>>21787012
He is either Levi Jensen or he is from the same inbred family as Levi Jensen.
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>>21787033
GIVE US 10% OF YOUR INCOME BEFORE TAXES GOYIM
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>>21787009
He wrote about Jesus so what do you mean with "historical Jesus" in contrast him writing about Jesus Christ in his letters? Even if what you are saying is true, how is that a valid argument for anything? Do you idiot seriously claim that is a logical argument giving us evidence that Jesus Christ did not exist? Are you high? Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Worse, we have so much historical documentation.

To say that Jesus didn't exist is to be historically illiterate, there is less evidence for Alexander the Great, and many other historical figures and certainly almost all the pagan figures. Are those (like you) "questioning" the existence of Jesus also running around disputing the existence of all of them whenever those historical figures are mentioned? Do you expose "Buddha" to the Buddhists and new age people, and they're promoted in every shop now throughout the once great west. No.

It's more anti-Christian masonic enlightenment poison injected into our societies, promoted by Jews, Freemasons, and you embrace it and promote the lies and their anti-Christian double standards further for them.
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>>21786865
Yule happens during the winter equinox
it's a sun worshipping festivity
European pagans worship the sun and the seasons as they were all settlers and farmers unlike jew who were desert roamin nomadic merchants who worship the moon they use to navigate
Santa Claus is Odin
lives up north where it's always cold, is an old bearded man dresses in red with a pointy hat, has authority over elves, rides 6 legged horse with red nostrils (for feeding on the entrails of his enemies) or a sled pulled by 6 rendiers with a red nosed one at the helm
decorating a pine is as 100% a nordic tradition as using the north star as a decoration theme
kissing people under the mistletoe is also nordic tradition tied to the Baldur myth
the socks hanging by the chimeney is also nordic tradition, gift giving is also 1.000.000% a nordic thing (as jews are known only for taking)

There isn't a single aspect of christmas that's actually christian, in fact, drop christianity completly and the only thing affected in the traditional fesitivity will be the name

Imagine being a christians so triggered by people reffering to this festivities as Yulemas that you write a textwall full of mental gymnastic justifications for your desert psy op subversive cult usurping superior pagan culture just to fill the spiritual and cultural void of their artificial alien cult
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>>492090796
MUSLIM
JEW
ATHIEST
Even Ledditors
Feds
ANYONE
The Jews rejection of Jesus Christ has opened the door for YOU. Read the parable of the prodigal son, this is about JOO

come to Christ, he will forgive your sins and give you the Holy Spirit, which will comfort you on this terrible Earth.

The Holy Spirit is a REAL THING. 12% btw
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Pity, OP. It seems the nannies have exiled your thread to the void...

We're not so different, you and I...



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