Another me edition, but more frenly>Why Gold?https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitablehttps://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos>Bullion dealershttps://libertycoin.com/ (US)https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/ (Ancient)https://www.luciteria.com/ (Other rare metals)more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE>Numismatic searchhttps://en.numista.com/catalogue/https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/https://www.ma-shops.com/>News and graphshttps://numismag.com/en/home-en/https://silverseek.com/https://www.silverdoctors.com/https://www.mining.com/https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silverhttps://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-countryhttps://wtfhappenedin1971.com/>Comparehttps://findbullionprices.com/ (US)https://eu.compare.pm/ (EU)https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)>Resourceshttps://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/https://www.coinflation.com/http://coinapps.com/https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK>Prospectinghttps://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoMhttps://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/sciencehttps://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-mineralshttps://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping testhttps://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-databaseprevious thread: >>58558876
ended up ordering this one. i'll probably regret it.
soup guys
Anyone collect coins? I was thinking about getting a cheap Roman coin and maybe a two cent coin for fun.
Dead board
>>58624173>someone finally got OP rightcongrats, and nice gold coloured ID
>>58625045>Anyone collect coins?Yeah a significant fraction of stackers are also numisfags. Dunno what your definition of a "cheap" Roman coin is, you can get plenty of common unimpressive smaller 4th century bronzes for under $5 each but they're not really satisfying. If your price is more around $50 then you can get an aesthetically appealing silver Denarius or a big 20+ gram Imperial copper alloy Sestertius (worth 1/4th of a Denarius), or an earlier Republic era chunky bronze As which often weighed closer to 30g. Big ancient bronze coins in decent shape are always impressive and quite enjoyable to fondle. While a denarius will typically have a diameter similar to a penny or dime the luster of ancient silver and sculpture-like high relief of the emperor's bust on any decent specimen makes them very appealing in-hand. You'll get more joy from 1 nice $50 coin than 12 meh $5 coins, so if you select something that is genuinely attractive at first glance and pleasing to the eye instead of settling for ugly coins that are only intellectually interesting because of their age and history you won't regret it.
>>58624189gonna go up at some point.>>58625448>Dead boardbetter than a nsfw board desu, it'll probably get more hectic once the actual shortage hits like it did before.
Coins that make you go hmm?
>>58625817
I'm almost at coinvivor, keep on stacking brehs!!
Just got some more silver today, a 1KG bar, a KEK coin, two maples (2023 and 2024, so I have a Liz II and a Charlie), a silver krug, a Morgan Le Fay, and a silver royal arms.
>>58626240
>>58625602$50 would be in my range for sure. I’m gonna go to my local coin store and see if they have anything. The $200 price range I can’t really justify it because I have no practical use for it and I won’t ever sell it
>>58625884I love that set!Plastic fiat - how much baser can it get?
>>58626266It depends on the coin shop, some have ancients at exorbitant prices so don't settle for anything before developing a sense for the normal fair auction prices for different Roman coins.https://www.ebay.com/str/ancienttreasuresI always recommend Americans keep an eye on this eBay dealer who lists and sells around 100 items every week. He's legit and his coins are genuine so you can look at his sold items to get a feel for what different things sell for. If you don't want to spend too much I recommend the mid 3rd century silver "Antoninianus" (double Denarius) coins of emperor Gordian III, they are quite common in high grade and usually have a diameter slightly wider than Denarii which is nice, debasement was underway at the time so I think their purity is in the 40-60% range but they look good in-hand. if you want a normal higher purity Denarius I recommend looking for one struck under Trajan, many of his more common issues are relatively cheap and the aesthetic quality of the dies tends to be pretty good.
my problem with ancient coins is they're all teeny tiny specs you need a magnifying glass to enjoy, unless you spend a fortune for a decent size
>>58626995Makes more sense than pissing away money on zinc coins that are just going to corrode through their finish.
>>58625817what coin is that?
>>58628261https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11896.html>it's aluminum
Look what I was able to get! Some nice Intaglio Silver
Hope everyone is buying the dip!
snagged another stucker>>58628653I need to pick up some more of their rounds soon.
>>58627767Thanks for the advice friend
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>>58625602I want to go older and grander
>>58627950>my problem with ancient coins is they're all teeny tiny specs you need a magnifying glass to enjoy, unless you spend a fortune for a decent sizeI luv'em but the tiny Greek fractions are definitely an acquired taste. If you want chunky silver you can get common attractive ~16g tetradrachms for under $200, sometimes around $100. Roman brass Sestertii which typically weigh between 20-30g are impressive in-hand and appealing common issues can be bought for $30-60. I paid $34 shipped for my first one, a Marcus Aurelius. I was instantly enthralled, carrying it in my pocket and fondling it constantly for about a month straight. A thicc sestertius is infinitely cooler than any crappy little mass-produced 4th century bronze, I got some as a kid but they never really did much for me. If you want something super beefy, 3rd-2nd century BC Ptolemaic Egyptian bronze tetrobols weighing over 40g and drachms weighing ~65g are relatively affordable, i got mine in pic for ~$50-160 each. If you could plop one of those 2+oz monsters in your palm and feel how hard they mog "big" coins like silver dollars I'm sure you'd agree that they're worth every cent. >>58628653Ayyy, this Stonehenge round is my favorite by far, very cool. How much are those running these days?>>58631217Happy to help, I hope you find something that really checks all your boxes but be careful man, ancients can be irresistibly addictive. I never planned to collect them but became hooked for life after my first big fat hit of pure uncut sestertius.
any news on our pirates? no date yet? Still no news on the site since 2023
>>58625953Are these tiers mix and match?I.e. Can you be coinvivor if you have 5au + 500 ag?
>>58625045>two cent coinYou mean any penny from before 1983?
>>58631623I see them on ebay for an average of 49 depending the year. Check your local silver dealer; if they don't have any, people asking for a certain brand/style will ensure they stock it. >>586317072025 was the last updated timeline I saw. Did anyone pay/preorder for the pirate?
>>58631836>Did anyone pay/preorder for the pirate?I did and its why I asked here, haven't heard a peep, no email, nothing.>2025 was the last updated timeline I sawjfc, over a year to make? what the fuck is he doing?
just curious, for those of you who store some of your savings in the form of metals, where do you keep them so theyre safe? In the bank? or somewhere else? Ive wanted to invest maybe a grand or two, maybe three, into something like this. Just not sure where to start.
>>58631845I believe the artwork was undertaking a final approval with last second touch ups. From experience, to get a custom art to silver round takes anywhere from 2-5 months depending on the level of detail wanted. I am speculating at this point, but if the design was approved and started this month; it may not be until november; a better guess is that they are waiting for the price of silver to fall back down before purchasing large amounts of silver. not to be greedy but because whoever they are using is gauging them through premiums. I bet, it is as simple as: noone could anticipate silver going to 30 in a month were caught off guard. I know the wait will be worth it, just gotta have faith!>>58631882You could always do safety deposit box; but that defeats the purpose of having instant access in case of bankrun. Just get giant gunsafe with a Faraday cage around it. If you wanna be fancy, get a magnetic lock with key cards/software that only you have access to.
>>58624189How much over spot was it?It’s got the small windmills, so once the large ones really are too expensive, it’s gonna be the next one for memetic treatment.
>>58631707>>58518726>>58518728
>>58631836>Did anyone pay/preorder for the pirate?I'm not doing it this time. The days of frenzied demand allowing comical markups on ebay sales is over, and with having over a year's wait on the Crusader I'm not going through that again with the Pirate.It's no longer fun.
>>58624563That’s… tempting.
>>58631891>a better guess is that they are waiting for the price of silver to fall back down before purchasing large amounts of silver.His lazyness is biting him in the ass this time around. The round could have been achieved - or at the very least the blanks purchased -, months ago, well before the run up to $30.If now the plan is to wait for silver to go back down to $22, there are similar odds it ends up going up to $40 instead.That's a pretty risky gamble if that's the plan, sometimes you are better off eating the bullet and calling it a day. He still is comfortably in the green, even if he pays $10 more per blank than initially expected. But another leg up of this magnitude and he'll just break even+.
>>58631891>>58632179The silver blanks were prepaid well in advance. I tend to pay for them sooner rather than later to avoid any potential massive upswings in prices. I don't try to play or time the marketPirate is taking long simply because it's a repeat of my failure on Crusader, but we are currently waiting for the production sample at this point so we really are in the final stretch
>>58632219>I tend to pay for them sooner rather than later to avoid any potential massive upswings in prices.Good, that's the smart thing to do, because our currencies' purchasing power going up certainly isn't the plan going forward kek.
Good morning Anons, hope everyone is komfy on this glorious Friday. Make sure you are stacking all metals relative to their values. Because when it comes down to it Anon, no one can take care of you, except yourself.Post friend tokens please.
>>58632219I've been gone for a while Mint Bro, what have I missed from your catalogue. Can you link website again please
>>58632855just search anonymintpm
>>58632930No Anon.
>>58633005yes, fren
>>58624173How many shares of GME are most /pmg/ holders carrying?
>>586334900 but i received an additional 47 shares of my shitty bdc when it reinvested earlier this week. i have now 1776 shares of that dog.
>>58633490I have like 60 shares of AMC, i coulda made a tidy 17k profit when that shit peaked but i fell for the hype like a dumb asshole and I've since made peace with the fact that I'll never make a cent off of it. Lesson learned anyway
is ma-shops also good for libertads? just got this. $45 for a 1990. better condition than any other type 1 or 2 I've gotten so far. hmmm
>>58633461Ok, I did, one of these days I'll take new pics. For now I just have this old stuff.
>>58633490Zero. I already sold it with +40% profit.
>page 10 bump
>>58636149Good save
This is what my current stack looks like since I started 2 months ago. It's crazy to think how much it's grown since then, though I've still got a long way to go. I've got about 50oz of silver and 1oz of gold so far. Am I on my way to making it?
>>58636347>>58625953Looking at this handy dandy chart...You still got a way to go friend. I just started myself last week. Will what 1500 bucks can get me at my local Jewelry shop. Hoping to get a least one or two gold coins, some goldbacks and the rest on Silver and then get a few Silver coins every week or so.
My father’s collection I inherited. I have since added a few silver coins. Thinking about buying another gold coin but they are expensive.
Bump
>>58631802yes, you can mix and match
>>58637031I'm sorry for your loss, anon. But it's always nice to see a loved one leaving precious metals to their heirs, instead of just paper money, with heirs continuing on their work, instead of selling everything ASAP. Gold coins are expansive indeed, but think to your stack as a way to save for harder times or future generations. You're not "spending" money like you would do for booze or a fancy dress; you're just converting it. It's your shiny piggy bank.If you can't afford saving the money for long term, then just stick with silver. As long as you buy stuff with the lowest premium, you're good!
>>58624173Fuck gold, buy FUNToken Same shit different package
>>58638137I could never sell it. Luckily he had multiple gold coins, one for every kid, no fighting, everyone got one. I add a coin to it for nostalgia. I messed up tho, he had a jar of half dollars and I didn’t realize they were worth more then face because they were after 64. They were added to the kids coin collection and turned into the bank at some point
>>58624173we close
>>58638233>I messed up tho, he had a jar of half dollars and I didn’t realize they were worth more then faceOuch! But there's a learning curve in this, we all do mistakes when we start.
>>58632219love your stuff cant wait to see how grugerrand comes out
>>58632219>>58638564me too. i'm excited for the apurrand preorders to open up
>>58632219When do you plan on closing the preorder window?
>>5863395180 shares just for funsies
>>58638259yeah that's crazy close.
I have begun my stacking journey. Found a nice local Jewelry shop that sells coins and Bullion. Bough 8 buffaloheads last week but gave five to friends and family. I wanted to have at least one bit of gold to feel but having that its silver all the way now. May buy some more Goldbacks, they seem cool. Im gonna try to spend about 200 a week on stacking every sat.
>>58639345Still in Stacklet territory but I will keep at it
>>58639350bro control your premiumsyou're putting this guy's kids through college
>>58639387Yeah I wanted to start off with a fair amount. I'm gonna limit myself to 4 or 5 coins a week. I have no debt or rent expensive so my income just goes straight to the bank which get eaten by inflation. Silver seems like the best investment considering the alterative. Just holding it in my hands make me want more. I'm cutting down on all my other expenses, mainly food so I can keep a silver fund. I needed to go on a diet anyway and this desire for more Silver will be what keep me to it.
Lmao
>>58639430He means if your goal is stacking buy stuff with low premiums. The fractional gold has a huge premium but honestly some is better than none. Buy what you want, it's your stack. I barely have over 100oz silver and about 1/3oz gold. Haven't bought anything in a while but honestly family and firearms and computers have eaten up excess funding lately.
What are the best sites to buy precious metals in Canada? I've been exclusively using Silver Gold Bull so far because of their free shipping, but I wanna know if there are better sites I'm missing out on.
>>58638900At least a week after I get the samples in hand and get pictures out to everyone
>>58639532So what happens now?
>>58640458
>>58640458Nice. Thanks!
I have 100 oz of silver and 1 oz of gold after 4 years. Should I keep going or should I just ease off the gas at this point?
>>58640760You're barely off the line, friend.
>>58640760more gold, less silver
>>58640760That's my single purchase NGMI
>>58632219I don't like the gold on the hat. I think it looked better when it was just the coin that was gold.
About to buy $100 worth of silver coins from jm bullion. I live in the US. Which ones do you recommend?
>>58641717I'd recommend getting coins that you like.Also 1, try to get $200 of coins. Otherwise you're paying $10 for shipping, a 10% premium.Also 2, use ACH or a paper check for a lower price than credit card. Takes longer, but helps for those on tight budgets.Also 3, check other vendors for the coin you decide on - others may have lower prices.
>>58641717Check the silver at spot promos on findbullionprices. JMB should have a few. I picked up an ounce of gold at spot earlier this week off them and they had a couple things for silver.99% of stacking is just minimizing acquisition cost. Don't pay shipping, don't pay sales tax, don't give the dealer much over 1% on bullion.
>>58624207where do you get these custom coins fren?
>>58642331Add .com to the Dealer column.Most are long-gone and you have to rely on ebay or similar.
>>58642346Thank you fren
>>58642346anyone know what mint was used for the kiwi farm round? >>58641717do like the other fren said and wait till you have enough for free shipping. also check other sites like monument metal, bold, bgasc, etc. you can usually find better prices than jm unless they have something specific you were looking for.
Some of my shiny rocks
>>58642428Did you post the reverse on the previous thread kek? >>58604917 Sweet coins!
>>58642428nice. are the older canadian gold coins .9?
Soon I will have saved up enough to buy my first golden krugerrand, so excited
>>58640760>lust_provoking_image.jpgVery good, sir. It's useful to think of gold and silver and dollar-amounts rather than as physical objects, ironically. Silver is bulky, and a 100 oz in 1 oz silver-coins is a lot to look at, whereas it's 3K USD at current spot, and gold is roughly 2K USD, giving you 5K USD in PMs. Even if they increase by price in purchasing-power-terms (PP-terms), that PP will be 50K USD. so a good investment, but not enough to retire on and move into a Caribbean villa straight away. If you assume that the USD falls by 90% against PP, then you'll simply have preserved 5K current-USD of PP instead.
>>58632219Hey Mintanon, I have moved since I placed my order would it be possible to update my shipping info on your website?
What site sells closest to actual market value gold and silver? I know every front page website is scamming me.
>>58644370Pretty sure jmbullion if you snag during their promos
Why can't round manufacturers into coin design? Most look like they took a photo and used a pseudo3d embossing effect rather than actually sculpting out a design by hand.
>>58644832I meant SD
>>58644370Some I like are SDBullionMonumentMetalsLibertyCoinBoldPreciousMetalsA fuller list with some hit-or-miss info is on the"Dealers" tab here:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11oZ4X8Gkgv3oGd_BunwFAHRhS92cfocIcmHzVK1D5s4
>>58644255Yes send me an email with your order number and new address and I'll get you a revised confirmation email sent
>>58624173>Buy a bunch of french silver and gold coins in 2021 because my autism likes the cool shiny coins>20 francs rooster coin was at 300 eurobux back then>My brother expressed interest in silver and gold recently, so decide to get him one for his biethday>Same coin is now 419 eurobuxWhat the fuck happened?
>>58644844Check out toddspmg.
>>58632062Based Thinkpadposter
>>58645257it's a popular coin
>>58645267you should really register for the ngc forum and reply to this thread with thishttps://boards.ngccoin.com/topic/65535-follow-the-lead-picture-post/page/355/#comments
>>58644370https://findbullionprices.com/buy-silver-at-spot-deals.phpJM will sell 1oz gold / 10oz silver at spot to new customers. Bullion Exchanges has had some decent prices lately, but usually very small quantities. I cleaned them out last week for like 4oz at a little over 1% premium. APMEX is good on antique coins, but the good deals come and go really fast and generally aren't advertised. So you have to be actively watching them.
>>58646113Thank you for the advice and info!
>>58646256god bless you todd
I stack for Ted Butler
>>58631882>a grand or twoYou keep $2000 laptop in plain sight so why do you think that you need safe for $2000 tube of coins? You are overthinking. If your concern is children or your crazy gf looking for treasures around your house, then just put it in a locked cabinet.As to where to start: if you want silver, buy cheapest 1oz rounds/coins. Buying entire tubes (20 or 25 pieces depending on producer) is more convinient for handling and storage. If you want gold, then you can buy 1oz coins like krugerrands. If they are too big and expensive for you, then the next most popular option is British sovereign (it doesn't matter if it's modern or 100 years old, just go for cheapest) or 20-franc coin (they have various designs but are all worth the same, again go for cheapest). Only buy from legit dealers that have registered businesses. You don't have experience yet to buy from other sources.
>>58646569F Ted ButlerF Bart ChiltonOnly few understand.
>>58644832>>58644876>>58645126>>58646210Thank you all. I recently came into money and I want to blow it on gold. Which gold coin should I purchase? The south African ones look cool and I am definitely not buying any of the Chinese gold obviously it's fake if it's from China
Vgh
theoretically speaking, if you split every commodity to every person on earth equally, how much would one have of:>gold>silver>bitcoin>dollarshas anyone calculated something like this yet? for 8 billion of people
>>58647647that one has to be a replica way too luster bombish otherwise
>>58647600Whatever minimizes your premiums. Gold is gold. Old 20 franc pieces and sovereigns may be economical if you're looking to buy less than an ounce. If you buy something with collectible value, get antique coins with figures any retard would recognize like Napoleon or Victoria. Contemporary production collectibles are sketchy at best.
>>58647661Gold and silver have been done.
>>58647663Yeah but what if though
>>>471439189
>>58647743well i'd be doing a roman slurp then
>>58647661The world's population = 8.1BSilver = 60B oz total; ~7.5oz per capitaGold = 6.8M oz total; ~0.93oz per capitaBitcoin = 19.7M BTC total; ~0.0024BTC per capitaDollars (M2 supply) = $28,867B USD total; $3,563 USD per capita
so Preppers, just one questionThe Slide happens.No one takes credit cards nor USD (or your countries paper money)how do you buy food from a supplier if they have 0 change for your 2000 USD (current value-whatever) gold coin?you willing to part 2000USD for a loaf or two of bread?Asking for a Fren
>>58648076>nigga thinks a gold coin is just gonna buy two pieces of bread
Constitutional friends, the signal has been lit! Goldback Chads, you may "um, actually" for once.
>>58648076We don't need to guess because that already happened few years ago in Venezuel. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-20/venezuelans-break-off-flakes-of-gold-to-pay-for-meals-haircuts
>>58648086Did you not comprehend my quesiton?I ASKED If you go too buy some food and the person reciprocating trade has no change. no gold dust or fraction of gold, then what? you're forced to keep adding to the tab until it's a fair trade off?
>>58648096You're going to eyeball that? you might get good at it, but it wont be down to the dollar amount. more like the Tens of Dollars each time. You will be ripping yourself off
also the US Has to have physicians willing to step up and demand that Biden be placed in a Memory Care center. he can not take care of himself. or he will have to have a wet-nurse by his side at all timesthis dude is not capable any longer running this country. we still have 7-8 months left. he doesn't have a clue who he is half the time let alone where he's at.it's deer in the headlights. he's a walking zombie. dazed and confused
>>58648113you don't use gold for groceriessilver does that job
>>58648178
>>58648121You are thinking in wrong categories. Current prices of everything are very low thanks to very effective supply chains.You can buy stuff like fruits from different continents for cents. Westerners live in outrageous luxury. A hobo can find a coin on the street and buy things that our ancestors didn't even dream about.But if supply chains disappear, you will be eating potatoes every day and an exotic fruit or meat will indeed cost enough to pay with gold.
>>58647661only 2 of those are commodities
>>58648088???
>>58648113silver, copper, lighters, primers
>>58648403>PrimersI'm NGMI
>>58648711checked>never forget the primers.
junk silver is an immediately better investment because numismatic spastics will pay far over spot on ebay, even if coin shops pay you jack shit
>>58624173Does anyone know where I can acquire double sided BLANK graphite round molds? Like picrel but without a design. Anything from 1/4 to 1 oz.I want to stamp on my own lettering and marksI see single sided pour molds but that wouldn't be weight-precise and wouldn't be flat
>>58648076Gold for large transactions, silver for small transactions
When buying new 20/25 Oz silver coins they come in sealed plastic tubes. If I place the tubes in a small wooden box how long will the coins be safe from tarnish?
>>58649213Probably a very long time.To ensure longer teims, you could linethe box with anit-tarnish felt or paper.
What do you think is a good minimum of 90% to own?
>>58647600if you're after south african, this one is pretty good https://www.bullionmatch.com/dealers/bullionmax/bullionmax-2024-half-gram-somalia-gold-elephant-coin-bu
>>58649272Whatever amount you feel like. Silver is silver, just buy it by weight, not face value or will get cheated on the weight.
58648076>there are no smaller denominations so just like stop stacking youll have to trade an oz of gold for a glance at a slive of breadEben
>>58649213>safe from tarnishWhy does it matter? It has the same value regardless. And once it gain numismatic value after decades, patina is not only accepted but even desired by collectors.
>>58648150>>58649175>paying for groceries with $12,000/oz coinage
>>58648150>you don't use gold for groceries
>>58625448>Dead boardNot many anons here. Hardly ever anyone knew. The same person or 2-3 of them are always the bakers posting the same pics.
>>58624173i have a good LD with low prem junk silver. i should be near or at the coinavore rank but i feel im at a wall. i have junk, rounds, bullion, bars, all kinds of denoms. some gold.>>58625953Should i wait for GSR? id rather keep stacking silver bcz budgeting purposes but im looking for all-around value purchasing for whatever scenarios unfold. id like to have family in the future so idk if i should go for more blowjob coins. whats best advice, im at a wall.
Wonder if Silver will dip below 29 today
>>58650435It already did, but NY is going to close above 29.5
Wanting to grow my stack a bit more but Im not sure what to get. So far I have>about 100 Face in US 90%>about 60 Face in Canadian 80%>100(?) Face in Mexican 72% and 90% but most of its 10% Un Pesos>120 ASE>4 Libertads>3 Maples>maybe 38 ozt in misc .999Thinking I should Focus on US 90% and 1ozt Silver rounds and 10ozt bars. What would some of you guys do?>>58650521Ah okay, want it to dip down to 28 for a day or two so I can blow some fake money on junk silver at my LCS
PMs are holding up very well considering the crypto bloodbath
>>58651560Dont follow Crypto at all, whats happening?
>>58651572everything's dumpingbtc shows no signs of further growthfad is dying
>>58651605Ouch, feel bad for the poor guys who dumped their life into the crypto stuff.
>>58651703>she said, hoping silver would revisit its 1980 highTWO MORE WEEKS
>>58651830>t.bought in at 65k
>>58651830>He thinks I bought because silver would go up>he doesnt know shiny rock make brain happyMany such cases! Sad!
>>58651547Buy 10toz bars, 500g or kilos for silver, and start on some gold. LMU .186toz coins, British sovereigns or 1/4toz AGEs.
>>58652052Why sovereigns?
>>58651985Nah, it would have to get down to 56k to get me interested. I don't hold crypto for more than a few weeks.
>>58651605>fad is dyingEvery fucking time
>>58652077Lower premiums for fractionals. I very much enjoy fractionals as you clearly do too ;)
>>58652246>$50 transaction fees>no privacy>us government controls >50% of coins>80% correlation with qqqPeople are slowly figuring out GAEcoin has no utility and baggies are going to watch their savings get eaten by inflation.
>>58652246cope
>>58652252Huh really? Interesting. Might have to look into sovereigns then. Speaking of British coins I wanted to get some older silver coinage but ever lot I could find on schmebay I got outbid on. Oh well!
>>58652314>British coinsTheir silver has too much of a premium in the US for my liking. I still have some .500 sixpence coins, but US coins are more recognized and Canadian have lower premiums from my experience.You should get a tube of 20 Canadian silver dollars. It's a whole Troy pound right there. Pic unrel.
>>58652372Ill have to get some more. I have 4 Canadian Dollar coins atm.
Anyone starting to add copper to their stack? Ive been going through pennies and getting a decent amount of pre 82 and even a good amount of Wheaties
>>58652425>add copperDon't buy copper bullion, premiums are stupid high. Pennies may good to trade w/ in the future in terms of copper. Granted I have maybe 30 copper 1toz rounds, but I learned my lesson early on and won't be buying more.
>>58652469Oh yeah dude the Copper bullion is WAY overpriced. I might get a 5 pounder for shits and giggles but the premiums are wild. Pennies are the best way to do it. Probably the only US Coin you can reliably find decent stuff in from the bank rolls. This last week I found about 12 Dollars Face in Pre 82 and 38 Wheaties. Just going to roll the rest up and bring them back to the bank
>>58652425If you have a warehouse and you are willing to buy it in tonnes maybe.
>>58652425>Anyone starting to add copper to their stack?Starting, no. I loaded up when stamped Cu bullion was going for $7.50/lb on ebay, and I knew it was a good price back then. At $20 nowadays it's kind of nuts. Good for selling though.
>>58640760This just happens to be precisely what I've bought since November 2023 (my first purchase of PM).
copper smells bad. i don't want it around my precious silver and gold
>>58653077smells like jeets
sound money always wins
>sorting through thousands of pennies>paying outrageous premiums for bullion>paying face value to a bank for nickels until they cut you off for economic terrorism>scrapping abandoned houses for pipeChoose your path, Copperchad.
>Pirate Coin Samples>I will have samples ready for shipping today, are you in town this week to receive?Soon
>>58653935
>>58653833I sift through pennies every couple days.Just finished a roll of wheats.Got a shoe box of pre-82's.Goes well with my couple hundred ounces of silver and gold.At this point I'm just gonna drain the value of everything.Fuck it.
>>58652484I'm glad to see I'm not the only one.Sorry to see I'm now in competition.Happy hunting, anon.
Evening Anons, hope everyone is komfy tonight. Need to put this piece in the box eventually but I like its case.
>>58654270Beauty! What's on the flip side?
>>58654298It's a calendar of the year 2000 I'll grab a photo of it tomorrow.
>>58653935>Soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fjnjTcGtb0
>>58654854>comparing the "sale" of colonial war-ridden shithole land to the sale of land in leading superpower with worlds strongest army to defend it>implying land isn't worth more since mechanization of farming started just because it's cheaper and easier to exploit now>implying you can generalize "the world" when talking about land and average the price of charnozems and deserts, Italian farms and Sibrrian tundras, trade cities and abandoned villagesclownpost
>>58654854>"The only gauretee in life is change, and if you're not changing, you're not living," So many animated walking dead zombies out there in the world, and the powers that be in this realm, the critics and fear mongers, the self consuming nay sayers who know this truth but sell the lies of safety and security while gatekeeping this fundamental truth to themselves shall in the end succumb to that which they have sold out to others. The truth is this "You can not keep it unless you give it away." May my spiritual kin here in PMG awaken to their responsibility to go out and give the truth to this wretched realm in spite of itself.
>>58654335My brother calls the Glock a nigger gun. I showed him your pic. Followed by looking up the Glock's inventor who I didn't even know was an Austrian man who served in the Wehrmacht. So it's actually a Nazi gun.
>>58654945spoken like someone who has no real money
>>58653833It only took me an hour or so to sift through 50 bucks in pennies. Really not that bad. The amount of pre 82 makes it bearable. Unlike sifting through Halfs for pre 64
I can understand stacking pennies for relaxation or to create art, but for those who are stacking for profit here's how the numbers grind…A pre-1982 penny is 95% Cu, 5% Zn, and weighs 3.11 grams comprising 2.9545g Cu and 0.1555g Zn.At the current price of $4.50/lb avdp for Cu, a penny has 2.93 cents' worth of Cu, and the zinc component adds less than 4 hundredths of a cent.Wow! A potential instant profit of 1.93 cents of profit from each penny!If your goal is to have a profit of $100 from the copper content in pennies, you would need 5178 pennies ($51.78) weighing 15.3 kg (=33.73 lbs avdp).Going to sell them on ebay? Ebay takes a 12% cut of the sale price as a fee. You now have $88 in profit.Unless it's for pickup, somebody is going to pay for shipping that 33.73 lbs. The customer will want to make up that cost - maybe by paying less for the metal, or you pay. That's another cut into profit.Going to melt it yourself? You kind of have to – no commercial company in the US will do it for you: it's illegal there, and businesses have better things to do than risk their money, business, and/or freedom for the sake of melting your little stack. >makeitfrommetal.com/is-it-illegal-to-melt-destroy-us-pennies-and-other-coins/Bars you create can return the most profit. But you need to buy or make the furnace, fuel, molds, handling equipment, have the time and space to work with the stuff and create a product pretty enough to be saleable.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPQDkKA4MLEinb4 “But I can sell the pennies as pennies for a profit on ebay!” Yes, you can. But the prudent buyer would check each penny for date to weed out the zinc ones. That’s a lot of tedious work, so few people buy in profitable bulk.Tl;dr: You'll more likely end up with buckets of pennies sitting in the garage for the rest of your life, and your kids will curse you for leaving this mess.
>>58655730I don't actively go out and buy pennies anymore.It became clear, very quickly, that I was squandering my efforts on silliness.My new plan for stacking pennies is simple and effortless:Just pay for everything in cash.At the end of the day you'll end up with some pennies.Over time you get enough to sort.My way of looking at it is more on an energetic level than financial.I could spend my time chasing pennies.Or I could spend that same time getting silver bullion.I have a few hundred ounce of silver.And a couple small boxes of pennies.And bowls of nickels, dimes, and quarters.The idea is to passively drain value out when convenient.
>>58655730You forgot the most important aspect - labor and time. If you dont manage to do all that (driving to bank to get rolls, sorting, selling and sending package) in less that 12 hours, then your gain is worse than a minimal wage job.Stackers often don't value their time at all.
>>58656150Assuming the stacker's time has value (is employed or has other means of income from his effort).
>>58656150don't compare it to time at a jobcompare it to time spent watching netflix like a useless faggot (you know, the kind of stuff you do on a regular basis)
>>58649272I started to throw in a roll of US junk when I do monthly buys of bullion. Whatever i feel like at the time, going for franklins next i think.Kinda fun to slowly grow a side stack of "old cash" alongside the rounds and bars
>>58642632You got me!
>>58657357what are the best shops to look for top condition canadian dollars?
anybody else feelin like we are seriously gmi
>>58657480Oh yai'm feelin' it
>>58654298Here's the back
>>58657480I'm feeling like it's time to SLOOOOOOORP, Then WAGMI.
>>58657839neat
>>58625602>If your price is more around $50 then you can get an aesthetically appealing silver Denarius or a big 20+ gram Imperial copper alloy Sestertiuswhere? all the sites seem very scammish. i want to get into this but dont want to biy chinese trashi also want a bag of cheap 'unwashed' coins. are they usually fake?
>>58627767youre that guy on ebay, arent you?
>let us remember the empowered, stunning looking, very rememberable, valuable, and most "sought after" gold coin in existence as we come to a close on this progressive holiday.
>>58657866Batches of "uncleaned" Roman coins are what you're looking for, preferably from the detectorists themselves. Serbia was always a great source, the ones I've seen and bought have all been genuine but you need to study the pics to make sure the coins are actually encrusted with dirt and have decent details and surfaces underneath instead of being worn-smooth, uncleanable or hopelessly corroded ate-up trash that some people sell as "uncleaned". Anyway here's my pasta for ancient-curious newfrens:When buying ancient coins on eBay, you must always check the Fake-Sellers lists for the seller's user ID to determine if they are trustworthy:http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=18502.0http://augustuscoins.com/ed/fakesellers.htmlSome legit sellers occasionally have fakes slip through too so checking fake coin reports for the specific issues can be helpful, but probably not necessary for most common sub-$100 coins:https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/For identifying coins, these online encyclopedic databases are fantastic:https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/i.htmlhttps://www.asiaminorcoins.com/Sellers I've bought ancients from with no issues, many are European so you need to select the "Worldwide" refinement under the "Item Location" section on the left side of the page or you won't see anything. Some sellers might not have anything listed right now but you can check their completed listings to see what they deal in:https://www.ebay.com/sch/ancient_treasures/m.htmlhttps://www.ebay.com/sch/ambrussum34/m.htmlhttps://www.ebay.com/sch/variana_museum/m.htmlhttps://www.ebay.com/sch/fortuna-m/m.htmlhttps://www.ebay.com/sch/lellien/m.htmlhttps://www.ebay.com/sch/cichosgladiator11/m.htmlhttps://www.ebay.com/sch/numismatiklanz/m.html>>58657877Hell no I'd never post my eBay accounts here lol. I've bought artifacts and coins from him since I was in 8th grade tho and consider him to be a noob-friendly dealer to follow.
is it better to buy silver and gold online or in person? i want to start. not sure where to go.
>>58658275It's better to buy from wherever you get the best deals, but to start you should check reviews for brick-and-mortar coin and bullion shops in your area and go browse in-person to chat with the proprietors and get a feel for the different products available, then compare against findbullionprices.com to see if they're reasonably competitive if you're planning on spending a lot.
>>58657839Thanks for the followup. It's much nicer than I imagined.
>>58658300if i only spent 1 or 2 k do you think it would really matter what price i bought the gold at? I know some places sell a little higher and lower, but if its only something like a 5% difference i feel like it wouldnt matter if its just something im buying to store wealth against inflation.
>>58658409>only 5%bro that's a year of shadowstats inflationjust take 2oz of silver and throw it in the riverpremiums are fucking cancer
>>58658409Depends how badly you want a particular piece. For 'just' a generic hedge against inflation, you really need to shoot for the lowest possible.
>>58658441>>58658473So what general price should i try to buy some gold/silver for? I dont mind if i take a small hit on market price. Im buying it so it the dollar collapses I have some other resources. I was only going to spend 1-2k not 10k. If the dollar collapses, even if i bought my gold or silver at a slightly above market price cost, it would still be useful.
>>58658481>what dollar amountA 20 franc piece is usually the smallest reasonably priced fractional, so about $440. You should expect to pay ~1% premiums on gold. JM is still doing the 1oz at spot promo if you're in the states.>if the dollar collapses A catastrophic fast collapse would still take over 10 years. You don't need to be panic buying on the weekly time frame.
Has any EU anon ordered from metalmarket.eu?They have 10oz Somali Elephants on sale right now plus low shipping.
>>58625953i am at dragon at 22yo>thanks daddy!
>>58658595I am in the states, what would you suggest buying (investing) into if that has any real significance? I'm not interested in buying these to make money, only to preserve a back up of wealth, so if something happens i can help my family. So I expect to invest more into this slowly over time. thank you for your responses.
>>58659049>$2,000 budget>stacking for shtf>AmericanBuy 90% silver. Rolls of dimes, quarters, and half dollars. Get them for as cheap as possible from a known reputable dealer. 90% US coinage is widely recognizable, protected by law against counterfeiters, and will fit your needs perfectly. If you want gold for barter, look into 14k jewelry at melt prices. It's going to be easier to conceal and trade than a coin and the premiums are less than American Gold Eagles. A $5 gold commemorative is also a high IQ play.
>>58659147i could invest more, i just dont really know what a reasonable minimum amount is. i feel like sub 5k is a realistic goal over the next few year. Not sure what % of your savings/investments should be in precious metals. 5% 10%?
>>58659167The answer to everything is usually 'It depends'. Both 5 and 10% can work just fine. It all depends on your personal financial situation, where you are in life, and what your goals are both with PMs and outside of them. I would reccomend having a small emergency fund of 90% silver like what you're describing, maybe 5% of NW, but definitely no more than 10% until you've paid off your house.
>>5865916710% is baby shit. I'm 25%
>>58659660okay what amount of USD is that? cool story
>>58659665it's 6 figs
>>58659675cool beans
Anyone bought silver? How do you know it's real?
>>586596951. smell it. it should have no scent2. put a small neodymium magnet on the coin and tilt the coin. it should slide around slowly, with no sticking.3. get a small scale, each troy ounce should be about 31 grams4. if you're buying well known coins, you can get a caliper and make sure the diameter/width is what it should be
>>58659167>what a reasonable minimum amount isAs much as you can afford while still living comfortably with a good buffer of fiat for emergencies.My recommendation is about 6 month's total expenses (more is better) at current prices. If your needs per month in US$ come to:2,000 for housing,300 total for water, sewer, utilities, trash, natural gas300 total for internet, cable, phone.300 for food,100 for gas,x? hundred for medical insurance (about 700 in the US)x? for car insurance (maybe 50)400 for groceries200 for 'other',that rounds to about $3,600 (without the x? unknowns),or 1.5 ozt/month,so about a dozen ozt gold or maybe 1k ozt silver or mixed however you prefer.
>>58659147>If you want gold for barter, look into 14k jewelry at melt prices14k is priced by local scrap value not melt, and nobody wants to barter random yellow metal. Boat people buy heavy 24k links. Any idiot can tell what those are immediately. They have high premiums but excellent barter value.
>>58659147>JEWelryRetard. I wouldn’t trade with you in SHTF.
>>58659147>>58660193where the fuck are you niggers getting 14k gold at melt/scrap prices
>>58660234>where the fuck are you niggers getting 14k gold at melt/scrap pricesMy LCS sells karat gold (and silver) jewelry at melt value which is slightly better than the payout from refineries. I was chatting with them yesterday and they remove all diamonds and sell them unsorted by weight in bulk to jewelers, far too cheap apparently considering how much they're begging for more, but all other stones are put in a box and sold for $1 each; things like rubies or star sapphires or opals along with common amethyst and semiprecious stuff. I'm told that several resellers go there to slurp high quality jewelry and stones to flip almost every day of the week. I wouldn't stack 14k wedding bands but if you can get more desirable designer jewelry at melt price it wouldn't be a bad idea to have some.
>>58660333yeah I'll have to check out my local LCS I guess. I like 14k gold
so ive been told /PMG/ is now super bullish on Apu meme coins now. you guys selling your stacks of silver for Apu? >>58658255
>>58660743here we like our frogs printed on metal, buddy
>>58660743Yeah, it's true.So far, only two coins have been produced with Apu, and a third's promised. 13 /pmg/ meme coins (and some gilded variants) exist.
>>58658343No problem Anon, thanks it's actually sterling. Big rounds are always nice. Another one, both were gifts from the wife's family after they found out I like metals.
>>58660193>>58660210It seems 14k scrapchad superiority has generated some controversy.
>>58660333Checked>I wouldn't stack 14k wedding bandsY-yeah. You would have to be an idiot to stack wearable, compact, high value gold under spot.
>>58660897Extraction cost changes depending on the alloy and you need a test kit to identify it. Which is why nobody in their right mind takes 14k on barter. You can just bite a piece of 24k and know it's real.
>>58661388>he isn't kaiser>his local kings do not respect his authority
i really didn't expect for them to not give grades out today. i'm going to be irrationally angry now for a good hour or two.
>>58661505rly
>>586584095% is not small difference. 5% from 2k is 100. Imagine a thing you can buy with 100.
>>58661573>Imagine a thing you can buy with 100Half a dinner for a family of 6 at Chic Fil A.
>>58661647You can pick up about 10k worth of bullion at spot with all the well known dealer promos though. Not a lot of work to save $500.
>>58660987Yeah, 14k is basically worthless. Might as well sell it all to some dumb sucker for 1/10th of spot at a yard sale.
>>58662109Do you enjoy making stupid financial decisions that suck up all your free time?
>>58662116No, I'm not some stupid cheapie fiend who hunts yard sales in his free time for fun. That would be cringe!
>>58662334I work 2, easy, full-time remote jobs in my free time and make about $180k a year. It's just hard for me to comprehend someone spending so much energy on scrap like that.
>>58662362Same. Why anyone would enjoy driving around the back roads of their town, meeting new people, finding useful things and PM cheapies is beyond me. I'm also constantly striving to find new ways to chain myself to the desk for all hours of the day and even weekends. I also love blacks and the jews.
>>58662411>”Yes, I have no life and just want to get away from my wife.”Cope 101
>>58662518>Yes, I am so desirable to women that even blown-out mestiza goblinas demand payment upfront to spread their crusty mudflaps for me, so my grandiose narcissistic self-delusion requires all the rest of you to be poor and unhappily married to landwhales in order to twist and redefine my abject failure to ever know or deserve true love into a demented success.It's very amusing to observe his flaccid seething whenever called-out on his transparent copes, what a pathetic little loser lmao.
>>58662850>2 pbtid>complaining about another anon’s sex lifeDude. You’ve been here ALL DAY. I’m happy to meet up with you if you want to suck my dick that hard.
>>58662915>Thinking that anyone on earth would ever want to suckle his micropenis Hate to burst your bubble faggot, but the reason you always have to pay for sex is because nobody ever has nor ever will actually want to do it for someone like you. Keep paying those diseased whores tho, I'm sure you'll find a way to convince yourself that having to pay for pussy means you're happy, successful and fulfilled instead of the cringelord loser all the rest of us can see, lmao
>>58662986Yikes. Sounds like a scared little bitch to me.
>58663006>Yikes. Sounds like a scared little bitch to me.
>>5865966050% here.It ain't much actually but it's mine and it's shiny.
Dead general
>>58665052the entire /biz/ board is dead, if you haven't noticed
>>58665075Tranny jannies got what they always wanted.
>>58665094Less work for the same pay?
they don't really seem to be in the other thread either. where are the grades
>>58665213>for the same pay
witness me
>>58657368I just go to a coin shop in a small town I live near
>>58665769
Started stacking 3 weeks ago. Wanted to get at least over 100 oz. Will get 20 more tomorrow and then just buy a few rounds every week.
>>58666701good job fren. excellent choices
>>58666705Thanks Fren. Silver has given me direction for my cash rather than it just sitting in the bank. Also going through my coins made me find a decent collection bicentennial quarters and even a bicentennial half-dollar. Not sure if their worth anything but its nice to have
>>58666716
>>58666720i think i have been under appreciating ikes. such a good reverse>basedyy
>>58666731ew. no, ikes are terribad i can forgive a newbie for getting them tho
>>58666761>moon eagles are terriblewhy?
>>58654854tarded postNapoleon was forced to sell.
>>58666792most sales come with some degree of coercion.
I bought 200 grams of silver 1000. is it better than 999?these are bullion
>>58667112Nah. Maybe in Japan if japs recognize the brand. Four nines for retail is generally a scam. Anyone who needs that level of purity isn't interested in buying second hand.
You guys like my Spongebob coins?
>>58667112Are you sure that's not "run 1000 of 1000"?Never heard of 1000 silver. Or anything.Five 9s is about the limit.
>>58667159better than shreks
>>58667186no, it's the purity grade. I'm sure. I just wanted to know if it made any substancial difference. I paid USD 200 for them. they are 1976 spanish coins
>>58667196>it's the purity grade.I would be very suspect.100% purity is a pretty big claim.Got this today. Fourth of apparently four planned in the series.
>>58667159Aye aye captain.
>>58667210nice, how much did you pay for it?
>>586672101000/1000 is just another way of saying .9996 or better
>>58667266yeah it's just rounded up
>>58667210100% cannot be achieved without rounding the number up. Because it's determined by measurement and even the most precise measurement device has some error.
>>58667233With shipping, US$ 2580.
>>58667210is that in a capsule that's then in the assay?
>>58668795Yep - looking through two layers of plastic.
>>58668259that's actually a very good price
>>58668929you can still find them for decent prices if you want one. torn between this one and the golden goose
do you nigs buy in stores or online? Went into a shop to buy some silver and they only had 90%
>>58668994I usually buy in stores, I like to see what I'm buying beforehand. also there's nothing wrong with 900 silver or 22 gold
>>58668994you can also barter with the store owner (within reason) never go to a store attended by a wagie, always deal with the owner.
>>58668938Price has dropped since I bought, but that's still a very good price. Where?I have the first three, so 'needed' the fourth. I didn't want to wait for a great price and then find it out of stock everywhere.
>>58669044https://monumentmetals.com/2024-1oz-gold-klondike-dore.htmlthey still have the swan too
>>58669044I'd still be happy with the price you paid. You must have ordered it a couple weeks ago and prices have dipped a little.
Anons, I need recommendations for scales that can accommodate kilo bars (I'm in the UK).
>>5866899490% is based
i got a credit card that gives me $200 worth of points if I spend $1500 before December. If I buy 1 ounce of gold, even accounting for the extra credit card charge, I would come out way ahead won't I? is there a flaw in this plan
>>58669194>is there a flaw in this planYeah, using a credit card to begin with.
>>58669194You could probably do better to maximize your earnings but the idea isnt bad. Some sites also have Ebay storefronts, you may be able to do a smidgen better going that route depending on taxes.
>>58669000where do you buy online? I'm starting out, don't want to get scammed
>>58669269Read the OP.
>>58668994Online. Too many store owners are retarded boomers that'll mark up 20% minimum because they "know" what they got. Online stores have their own markups but they're not nearly as egregious and they're far less likely to sell fakes.
>>58669269Take a peek at the "Dealers" tab on this spreadsheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11oZ4X8Gkgv3oGd_BunwFAHRhS92cfocIcmHzVK1D5s4
>>58669075I'm okay with the price. Yes, it was several weeks ago.I'm having a hard time confirming there will only be 500 minted, per the info the dealer gave me.The Canadian Mint site says it's out of stock in stores, so I feel good about getting one at all.>https://www.mint.ca/en/shop/bullion-products/pure-gold-coin-from-dore-to-refined-gold-bullion
