The reason why native americans can't get STEM jobs is because they have a culture of mediocrity (besides having average IQ).
red man do like his firewaterwe really did them dirty by letting them have big patches of barren land instead of just killing them
He's right. Americans these days want life on easy mode. Chase useless women, put them on a pedestal, instead of working towards a career. They deserve to be replaced by Indians
go to any party, nightclub, concert, disneyland, its full of degenerate whites and blacksyou will never find indians, or asians because theyre study and workmaxxing to win in life
>>59503626A "culture of mediocrity" eh?Doing the prom queen thing or the jock thing right can be a lot harder than being a math olympiad and whatever other nonsense thing he said. That's the real truth. Technical skills are good to have, but they shouldn't interfere with your life TOO much, like to the point where you're a nerd, the point where you're Screech. That's the ideal. If anything American tv and movies have always been too nice to the nerds and acting like they're the real good guys who win out in the end. Also, he's shafting America's actual nerds right now by going for this cheap labour abroad angle. The jocks and fratboys win again. All those nerds who devoted years of their lives to be undermined by cheap slave-like labour from abroad. But I don't think you'll ever get Americans to buy into how cool it is to be a nerd no matter how you dress it up. Fuck this shit.
indians are autistic but retarded. they are also lazy as fuck looking for the absolute easiest way out of any problem. they are socially retarded as well, so they have to group up and rape one woman as a group in order to get any action. and let's not even get into the shit fixation that they have. i can't wait for america to have more of these wonderful people!
truth hurts but he's right *at an individual level*. American zoomers are cooked. the problem is not the Indian kid who aced JEE, it is chain migration of other Indians that it brings.
>>59503626Why are these tech nerds so obsessed with technological progress and economic growth.Just live and let live. Instead they want constant competition and a ever growing influx of foreigners to bid up home prices. They have zero regard for the everyday life of individuals that don't want their work to be their entire life.
>>59503665>Instead they want constant competitionIf you would have some testosterone, you wouldnt complain about competition.Thats how life of a man looks like you little bitch.
>>59503698I make top 10% income as a senior software engineer. What the fuck do you?
>>59503708Who cares when your testosterone is in the bottom 10% and nobody respects you.
>>59503738Do you even have a job? I can you're extremely low t, probably a tranny
>>59503708top 10% for SWEs is like 100k because of all the flyover country devs
>>59503746I mean for my country. Actually closer to to 97%. I'm arguing with some tranny that probably thinks 5k is a lot of money
>>59503744> Do you even have a job?This is the only value in your life? Bragging about being a wageslave? You are even more pathetic than i thought, go kys. EoT.
Suddenly they care about grades lolDidnt they get dindus a free for all, what was it called? None left behind?
>>59503762Lmao no job brokie. I see why you don't care about excess competition. Because you've given up and just live a parasite in your parents home.Loser
The whole college system needs a rework if you want students to be better at what they major in when entering the workforce. Get rid of gen ed classes and make it so that you can't graduate without an internship. Also stop accepting so many students just because you like the tuition money. This alone makes it so that they are getting 4 actual years of studying their preferred topic with work experience.
>>59503769>Lets make live even harder on you're children >Thats wht amsrt people do>Genocide you're people LEGALLY thats what counts>Debt based GDP line more importent then the survival of you're peoplethere is something very wrong with you people
>>59503802What do you mean you people. Go read my first post retard
>>59503769>brokieBack to the shithole you came from, incel.
>>59503831Another brokie. Eat shit loser
>>59503626>Boy meets worldWhat the fuck is that
>>59503841Get the nuts of your ideal out of your mouth.I out earn you while you work for someone else to get paid. You are the definition of a loser. Kys.
>>59503865How much you get paid incel
>>59503626I can't even remember a point in American history when a guy that focuses on studying wouldn't be bullied as a nerd like this anon >>59503646. Intelligence seems never to be celebrated in the American culture, it's all about muscles and whatnot, like the recent CHAD meme, even when they make a based nerd meme it's just attaching a big brain to CHAD's body lol, I think it really fucks up their brain imagining a non muscular figure coming on top, which is really primitiveyou never see this in civilized countries with long history like Japan
>>59503880I don't work for a salary, you useless retard. I have a business and earn 7 figures/year. I employ retarda like you who are too stupid to do their own thing and need someone else to pay them. Seethe. Cope. Dilate.
>>59503887Kek and why am I loser? I don't have to larp on 4chan when I insult people like you. Full of shit. I can tell you're also a brokie neet loser because you got offended by my post. Real pathetic.
>>59503665They resent the jocks and this has been going on for 50 years or so. All culture (movies, shows, comics etc) have demonized jocks while venerated nerds. All early 20th century heroes are jocks (superman, batman) while the late 20th century heroes (post 1980 when the cultural shift happened with tech bros) are nerds (Peter parker It's the master and slave nietzchean dynamic. Jocks rule society because they are strong and brave while slaves have to subvert nature and flip it synthetically (through bs morality) to have a chance of ruling society.You can also see this in the degeneration of culture. Nowadays there are LGTB flags in the school hallways, something the jocks would have never allowed to happen back then. They would just call you fag and force you to become strong or be ostracized.We need Trump to stuff Elon and Vivek back into their lockers. The jock America is back.
>>59503626>elon wants top 0.1% of engineers>india produces 1.5m engineer graduates annually>only 10% are employable>0.1% of 150k is 150America would be fine if indian immigration was restricted to 150 or even 1500 of their best and brightest annually, but I don't think that's what Elon is talking about. Sounds like he actually wants much more than just 0.1%.
>>59503937He wants slave labor.We've been in a cheap money environment for more than 15 years now. This means that capital is pretty much free for your project. This incentivizes companies to expand fast, no matter if they are actually putting the money to good use or not. This makes bringing slaves from overseas far more profitable than before. To expand, you need to hire more people, but this drives salaries up, especially when all companies want to expand using cheap money. The solution is to bring codemonkeys from overseas. They are actually retarded and provide little value as workers, but they drive salaries down, allowing you to use that cheap money to inflate your company's stock value.
>Learn to co-ACKIt's over for codecelsJeet era is incoming
>>59503626he's not wrong
>>59503904>Nowadays there are LGTB flags in the school hallways, something the jocks would have never allowed to happen back thenGrowing up in the 90s I used to be intimidated by the older kids because they were so crass, bigger, stronger, freely threw around words like faggot and beat kids up on a whim, disrespected teachers - sometimes fought or spit on them or threw shit at them, etc. Overall a bunch of assholes having fun at the expense of other people, didn't accept any gay shit, didn't accept people doing anything abnormal, they'd endlessly mock them and pick fights, and it wasn't even just the jocks, almost all of the people across the board were like this, like 90%+.I'm so disappointed in what pussies they turned out to be, they didn't do shit about all the LGBTQ shit everywhere, didn't do shit about media becoming gay, didn't do shit about political correctness banning words like faggot, didn't do shit about covid and masking, they all probably got tripled vaxxd.They all turned out to be such fucking losers, they were a force to be feared growing up and every single one immediately folded on everything after they reached adulthood, all the bravado and confidence gone completely. What the fuck happened?Even all the teachers I had, acting like school was so important, puffing themselves up and intimidating kids, meanwhile the entire country and every institution is ran by clowns and academia is a gay joke.It's freeing somewhat, all those people I feared, even though I'm older now and they haven't been in my life in 2 decades, I now know with certainty every single one was a pussy chickenshit with no backbone. It actually gives me much more confidence, every person I have to interact with I know they were probably complicit to this shitty gay state of things and that immediately makes them a loser and it gives me the upperhand. Also kind of ironic how it was the nerds from that generation with gamergate that first put up any resistance to the gay shit.
>>59504011>Also kind of ironic how it was the nerds from that generation with gamergate that first put up any resistance to the gay shit.It is kind of ironic but that shows how far to the marginal society has become. Even the nerds got disgusted by society's push for "diversity".The issue with jocks becoming docile is that nerds won and ascended to positions of power in society. Even if you are a lion (jock) if you are governed by foxes (nerds) you have to give in. The foxes just won and have reigned for three decades now. Maybe Trump will be able to restore balance somewhat, but I have doubts of that. They already got rid of him once through subversive means and the whole republican party and justice system betrayed him.
>>59504011It's because the defining trait of the American psyche is conformity, despite the constant appeals to "individualism" and such, at least since the boomers and probably before. As long as the authorities and the TV were reinforcing crass masculinity, that's how people acted, and almost as soon as they flipped the script to unabashed faggotry, all the normalfags followed suit. Furthermore this is the primary reason why Americans are not competitive in tech or science and engineering more broadly: the standard that all the normies conform to is against these things, so they all are by default. There's negative status conferred by being an engineer, but not to be a doctor or lawyer for example. If being good at math and science could be destigmatized, then the problem could be fixed. I studied math in university and I did a year abroad in Europe and what I saw was that in America, higher math courses were full of weirdos and socially awkward people while in Europe they were filled with normal people, which I thought was crazy at the time. But it isn't really, it's because Europeans don't have a negative association with math but Americans do, so Americans are socially selected out of being good at math and ultimately dumber for it.
>>59503744>Do you even have a job?I'm a penis doctor.
What can of cuck mentality do Americans have that choose a government that insults the citizens that vote for them? In 50 years, everybody will be either mexican either indian. Wasps utterly destroyed
>>59503626yeah pretty much the western world can't compete after it fell for the virtue signaling meme
>>59503626who cares, not everyone should get into STEM, it will remain a niche. We need farmers and infra workers & so on.
>>59503646idk if we want advanced tech those are the people we want but probably if we want a healthy society for us people to live in all the other stuff would be preferred. nerds only make the world a miserable place, taking away jobs that people can do, taking away natural encounters with fellow humans, ruining their health in every way.. mental, obesity, we would be much better off without a lot of the stuff nerds invented and people will probably eventually understand this and the great reset will begin
>>59503626Vivek is right.There's a clear reason Asians smoke White people in school. And you can't even argue "muh DEI" since Asians were being discriminated against WORSE than Whites in that metric.If you want your kids to be successful, you need a stay at home mom that cooks nutritious meals EVERY SINGLE DAY, plus breastfeeding, not formula garbage. You need a household that promotes a healthy balance of socialization, fitness and education. If you only focus on one your kids will grow up fucked up. Either getting bullied for being fat/scrawny, or being an isolated weirdo that doesn't know how to talk to people.This all relates to how successful they will be in business and finance.
>>59504163heh good luck with that. all the media promotes this as oppressing women even if its what they really want to do and not the career bs the propagandists tell them to do
>>59504177I know.
>>59504163>If you want your kids to be successful, you need a stay at home mom that cooks nutritious meals EVERY SINGLE DAY, plus breastfeeding, not formula garbage. You need a household that promotes a healthy balance of socialization, fitness and education. If you only focus on one your kids will grow up fucked up. Either getting bullied for being fat/scrawny, or being an isolated weirdo that doesn't know how to talk to people.Wise words. I never swallowed the romanticizing of the so called "self-made man". That's why jews are so successful, unironically. They teach their kids everything. They teach their kids how money works. They focus on education and on moving forward. They are a TRIBE.
>>59504181and of course that conveniently only applies to white families. you don't see them whining about the black mothers with their 10 kids. well this all is so unsustainable anyway that we will probably pretty soon have the same happen that happened to other once great civilizations
>>59503626What's the point when by the time you have seen the shortage and trained for it, the market has already been flooded with cheap immigrants?He's not wrong, but his answer is terrible.
>>59504218then the question is how do they do it so quickly? seeing how its here students spend way too much time partying and way too little studying. asians are fucking machines when it comes to this stuff
>>59504242I don't think they do it quickly, they just already had a surplus or already trained supply that just left their jobs to earn more in America. (This is why I think immigration is a two-way problem, undercuts natives in host country and leads to brain-drain in home country). Though that's not to say the native culture is not a problem.It's like welders a few years ago in my country, there was a huge shortage of them and companies were crying out for help, even rasing salaries. Natives saw this, saw a career opportunity and started training. Meanwhile the companies have pressured the government to open the gates for cheap welders from other countries, so by the time the natives have spent their 2 years learning to weld the market was flooded and wages had crashed and they couldn't find a job. Same happened for electricians before that, and plumbers before that. Now it's the turn of white collar jobs like nursing, IT and accounting. Immigration is ultimately a terrible solution, but so long as it allows the top 1% to get rich quick, it is always going to be pushed.
>>59504276you would think that the real people of their countries would get together and hang these parasites in lamp posts. dictators, the rich etc are nothing if the masses are against them
>>59504280I think something is going to happen sooner or later. Trump basically won the election because the working class Americans no longer felt that the Dems were acting in their interest, you see the same happening in Europe too, people are tired of immigration. The problem is neither Trump nor any other politician actually gives a shit, Trump increased legal immigration during his first term, so it should not be a surprise that he is going to do the same in his second. When people become increasingly disillusioned over the democratic system representing them, it's only ever going to spell trouble.
>>59503626>ummm nerds need to be super starsNot even in China are nerds superstars, that doesn't stop them from being good at math. What kind of retarded argument is that
>>59503626It’s going to last two generations max. The “culture of excellence” only exists in individuals or societies climbing or recently climbed out of poverty, it’s largely driven by fear and lack. The youth are already beginning to rebel against it in South Korea and it’s only been, what, 50 years? When I visited there was an air of weariness, with pop stars on the radio singing, don’t kill yourself. It’s not natural. The pressure to succeed is debilitating, it comes with a toll. The “culture of excellence” can only persist for so long
>>59504321It all starts with your parents. If you have Asian parent who push you to the limit, you'll be pushed to the limit. If you have hipster parents who want you to find yourself, you'll find that you actually prefer drinking beer and playing video gamesAsian parents have been doing this shit for centuries, it works fine
>>59503626Not true, muslims are like 80 IQ and they all go into engineering.You *can* get into STEM even as a retard.
Wonder if people on /pol/ are going to be retarded enough to be contrarian about this and flip into >actually importing 10000000 chinks/indians are based!11!!1 and redpilled and will make us even strongerWhen we already have a case study on that with Canada
if you dont have a job you dont have an opinion in this
>>59504512Sorry wagie but you don't get to decide this or anything else in your life
/biz/ will continue to suck Elon's cock after this lol
>>59503638What are you talking about? Every club in big US cities is filled with horny jeets trying to get white bobs and vagene lmao>>59503646>Also, he's shafting America's actual nerds right now by going for this cheap labour abroad angle.This, I'm so sick of these people pretending people succeed because of "muh genius muh merit." The only way you succeed in any country but especially this one is nepotism. Elon isn't rich because he's muh genius, he's rich because his dad was rich. Indians succeed through nepotism and because the entire structure of the US has been deliberately designed over many years to disenfranchise white men as much as possible.>>59503698KYS faggot. I can smell your Punisher sticker and retarded tattoos from here you fucking dork.>>59503937His dad had effective slaves in his emerald mine, he wants slaves. His mother is also a creepy short-white haired boomer woman freak, there is something going on with that woman. Elon is a problem.>>59503985Even leftist Canadians hate you people now. I wouldn't trade places with you Rajesh.>>59504011American society is tightly controlled by two things:1. Women2. DebtWe are an extremely matriarchal society where men are systematically castrated and taught to serve women, in a system where due to obesity and no prostitution there is an unnatural artificial scarcity of pussy. Everyone is also completely loaded up with debt at all time, so one missed payment and they lose everything, including their healthcare.>>59504163It's total bullshit Asians are more discriminated against than whites. The entire point of DEI is to fuck over white men who don't have rich parents and connections. White women still get instantly hired doing zero work though.
>>59503638Bullshit I was a night club bouncer for seven years. It's full of Indians.
Why are immigrants/H1B Indians always so fucking verbose?They so much without saying anything of importance?I noticed this especially when interviewing interns who were clearly originally from India. But the same I see clearly with managers and engineers I've worked with.
I am the first STEM major in my entire family history ever into computer science and I saw 0 support beyond federal loans for a backwater state school, and they asked an enormous amount of work from me and I gave them what I could do for 3.5 yearsThey don't give a shit about first generation engineers, they don't give a shit about foreign businessWhat they want is a slave class of liars who will do nothing as they loot the millions of dollars in contracts to the bald jew white board while the jeets gentrify whatever shithole they've been imported to
Anyone who has ever worked with indians knows they are useless, but talk a big game. Average would be a huge improvement over them.
>>59503887>7 figures a year and still lurking in 4chin>Can't even spell correctlyThis got to be the LARP of the year, boys. Holy kek
>>59504184Ok Rabbi, you did your job well you can go eat a baby's penis now
Funny that these “elites” are the ones that created this shit culture and now that they’ve let it degrade and let shit skins weasel their way into positions of “power” their solution is to let Poojeet import more of his turd world friends in the name of “progress” so we can “keep up”. Asians he might have a leg to stand on, but I work with a bunch of pajeets in tech, they sure as shit don’t seem any smarter than even average white nerds. Not a nerd myself, I actually have come to despise these Bing Bing wahoo playing onions boys the more time I spend around them and see them for the bitter nerds that got made fun of in school and never got laid that, they truly are deep down as Vivek here highlights with his seething. I was picked on myself a bit growing up, it encouraged me to lift weights, learn to fight and train mma. Struggle is the pressure that builds diamonds or breaks the weak, and believe me these legtist tech nerds are incredibly weak faggots. Just look at how many of them are progressive leftists.
If pajeets are so great, why hasn't India become a world power yet?
>>59503937>America would be fine if indian immigration was restricted to 150 or even 1500 of their best and brightest annuallyShut up currylover. High IQ jeets bring over their 60IQ street shitting relatives. Keep the poo in the loo.
>>59505074They aren’t they are just willing to work for slave wages and be the perfect wage slave for kikes because being a slave in America beats the designated shitting streets. This is just classic kike exploitation, Vevek is just their shabbos goy too stupid to realize poojeets willBe the systems new niggers except Poojeets can actually do 30% of the white mans job compared to niggers who can’t do anything but complain and demand gibs while screaming we wuz nonsense.
>>59505054You don't agree? So you're all for sending your kids to a school and not caring for their education? Boomer style? You call me a jew, but it's your ways what makes jews win.
>Why yes I am a super human that everyone should want to import into their country>What do you mean start a company in my home country?? I can only fill up managerial and low level software engineer roles and waste time
>>59505107Not that you're wrong but you are romantcizing the jew tribe a bit too much there
>>59503631>>59503638Indians eat actual sewage poop food off street vendors, rape and steal on broad daylight, smell terrible and have horrible manners. Must I remind you the vast majority of scammers worldwide are pajeets? What's with your adoration of these subhuman, inbred bastards? >hurr muricans put women on pedestals!!!>proceeds to put an inferior, sub room temp IQ race on average in a pedestal claiming they are le studymaxxing
YOu don't actually need giga geniuses to code your websites.Which is why indians are getting hired in the first place because they're retarded.
>>59506954Plus you can pay them literal peanuts, also saturate the market and force actual good white American programmers out there sell their skills for less than peanuts. It's a win-win situation for turbo capitalist fags like Elon
>>59503963This, I've been an engineer in manufacturing for 5 years now, and never had another white person on my team. I promise you retards, the Indians, Taiwanese, and Chinese we're hiring are not substantially smarter or more effective. In fact the language barriers are a major liability. They're dirt cheap, and they can't leave the company if they're held hostage with green cards. They also have no problem popping prozacs to be content with their miserable lives living at work. The MBA fags making decisions get really good looking KPIs by hiring these people for dirt cheap, regardless of the cost it has to culture or productivity.
>>59506954Yes but what do you value more, something getting done, or something getting completed to the end users expected standard? Government websites serve as a sample platter to the mean caliber of the websites corresponding country dev resources. Look at Indias website for their country's VISA applications, it's a fucking abomination.
did america have a culture of mediocrity in the 30's 40's 50's? what changed since then? what pervasive entity started spewing disgusting culture subverting filth from their media hegemony?
>>59507477The thing is that these companies taking losses just write off the losses to pay no taxes, save on wages by paying people 80k or whatever (half of it goes to the agency that got them hired) instead of 160k to live in california and then grifting government tax credits and jacking up the prices/selling telemetry user data to make up the difference.It's not about selling a good product which is why the entire capitalist communist argument is a meme. All big tech shit is just a fucking grift.
>>59503626this jeet should be in prison for what he did with axovant
>>59503626If a jeet can leverage chatGPT to do the job, it probably wasn't very important in the first place and certainly not worth the salary you want it to be.
>>59503626SAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR
