AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>59564992
shill me 5 (five) large cap stocks to hold for the entire duration of the trump presidency. also rip grippa

SOUN lol

>>59565008
Why is he doing le white power hand signal?

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Opened IONQ short right at open and made the easiest money in a single day

>>59564992
>2:40 in New York
>8:01 in London

>>59565008
TSLA
MSFT
GOOG/GOOGL
V
NVDA

>>59565036
It's clearly 2:35

new thread now give me your thoughts on tencent or else

Hi, I am after the anon who said RGTI was literally free money. I just need to have a word please.

robotfags redpill me on EKSO

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will the meme stocks like SOUN, IASP, QSI go back up this year? someone, please soothe my wounded psyche.

>>59565096
Go up? Why would they go up?

>>59565101
maybe other clowns will think it's a good idea to grab some bags while they're down?

>>59565096
>meme stocks
You’re just gambling
You lost
Sell to retain whatever capital you have left

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$RGTI $IONQ $QMCO $QBTS

>>59565117
Honestly not sure what people expected. Quantum computers are 10 years away from being able to do anything at all, and 20 years away from being profitable businesses. Most of these quantum stocks won't even exist before a real quantum chip is produced.

>>59565116
do you think last night Huang killed the memes for good?

>>59565120
I want to congratulate all of the bears (including myself) who shorted them.

>>59565120
what about this "great news"?

"SEALSQ and WISeSat Unite to Launch Six New Generation Satellites in 2025 Equipped with Advanced Post-Quantum Technology. The first satellite launch is scheduled for January 14, 2025, from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California, partnering with SpaceX."

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>>59564992
>AISP
AHHHHHHHHHHHH

>bought in december
>up 20% by last week
>all crashed down to zero this week
>dogshit barebones investing through my bank, no stop-loss type features
>tried to hold out but panicked as my potential profits went below 1%
>sold just in time to get back my full principle
Could have been much worse, I suppose.

>>59565139
>Advanced Post-Quantum Technology
This is referring to the encryption used by the satellite. There are encryption algorithms that quantum computers can't break, and the whole industry is slowly moving towards using them. Yet another reason why quantum is a meme -- chances are that by the time a viable quantum computer exists then all of the meaningful encryption will be post-quantum.

>>59565146
Trvst thq plvn sister...

Guys? What the fuck is going on?

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First time selling at a loss. Fell for the quantum meme but I wasn't to heavily invested at least. Valuable lesson learned.

That AMD dump is so fucking retarded

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>notice stock on my portfolio has gone up 200% since I bought it
>I only bought two shares at $35 four years ago and then forgot about it
It's a special kind of pain

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>dump money in RUM expecting it to go up in the next couple of months
>it totally explodes around Christmas
>get smug and expect its $13 to be the new floor from the $5 it was at
>dropping bigly this morning and still going
So... This is what it feels like to lose big...

Diamond Hands... Onegai...

>>59565201
Next lesson is that it wont be the last time

where’s that soun shill. I have a couple of mean words for him

>>59565342
He’s pounding your gf since he already financially cucked you

>>59565117
I wanted to buy puts on RGTI but decided against it.

>>59565200
https://www.barrons.com/articles/fed-meeting-minutes-today-interest-rates-f69658e8

>>59565120
>Honestly not sure what people expected

The mania to last a little longer, mostly. Happy I sold the top yesterday though

>>59565160
I would buy and sell at 25% profits. Did this all last month. Stopped because I knew this would all be over soon enough. Took my profits and watched the bears chew on some fresh meat.

>>59565297
Probably but I'll survive. Quantum was just the only thing I don't see bouncing back any time soon.

Nvidia target price?

>>59565418
10T market cap

>>59565405
It's bouncing back right now.

>>59565418
bout tree fiddy

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>>59564992
What the fuck is happening? I lost 15k just today alone.

>>59564992
>wake up
>soun is -17%
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Unironically feel bad for all the cunts that Toldya duped into buying this crap and holding until now. Created a small group of baggies all by himself.

>>59565146
:(

>>59565439
He’s such a moronic faggot I’m glad I talked so much shit about him

>>59565008
Heres 4. These top 2 I am fairly confident in:
>TSM
My favorite play for 2025. All AI chips have 1 constant. Regardless of whether Nvidia keeps winning short to medium term. Or a company like AMZN or MSFT gets their shit together enough to produce a competitive AI chip (AMZN is closer FWIW). At 1 trill TSM is undervalued with their role in the tech world as the only company with the ability to produce advanced chips. Just ask Apple. I believe the market is pricing in China invading Taiwan (USA will never let that happen) and also discounting it since it's not an American company (they are producing more and more in USA each quarter, although the cost of production is more expensive).
>AMZN
Noted above. If one company can rival NVDA's dominance in AI chips, it might be AMZN as they have made decent progress here recently. But putting a dent in Nvidia is a longer term angle. They will force Anthropic to use their chips and that will be telling enough. AWS and their e-commerce will continue to be behemoths as money printers to keep funding their longer term efforts.
Next 2 are more speculative, but they paved a unique lane for themselves for increasing relevance:
>SHOP
Just a play on the disparate nature of the internet, the increasingly niche nature of consumerism, and the continuing easiness of buying/selling goods. May be a bit overvalued, but it's a solid business with solid financials and is best suited to rival Amazon/Temu/Whatever next bullshit chinese online retailer as a more trusted partner of e-commerce.
>ETH
Not a stock and probably valued appropriately. However, given the BTC steam up to $100,000 and ETH not really reacting positively means it may be undervalued relative to BTC. It's still the only other crypto that matters outside of BTC, and its ecosystem that has been in use for a while now, which matters. I think it being PoS and it being the most widely used layer 1 chain keeps it extremely relevant as we approach the next decade.

Tempted to buys some AMD after the recent sell-off. Is it a good mid-to-long term play right now? Are there any concerns other that them getting their ass beat in the AI race with NVDA?

soun can't be over. surely not?

>>59565027
those buy more if it goes under 20 bags not looking so good now. feels like the time for correction has arrived and things that have no value will finally be valued accordingly

>>59565116
notice how they tell you what to buy but never how long you are supposed to hold. sometimes you need to sell within the day to not be left with bags and sometimes its multiple days of holding

>>59565342
>tfw I literally sold the top before christmas

>>59565505
Cerence is the new Nvidia partner, even kingsoft took a plunge

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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i gambled on meme stocks and lost a huge portion of my savings. yes, i know i'm retarded. i missed literally every opportunity to make money in the last few months, bought the absolute top and now a recession is coming. even if i choose the safest path forward and start to dca into s&p500, i'll just baghold a stagnating etf through a recession. it's OVER. i'll stay poor forever, there is literally no chance to make money any more

>>59565541
Very true. I got some good scrapes out of SOUN on its way up.

Tired of pump and dumps. Anyone got some 100 baggers to hold for the long run?

>>59565598
you just know she ruined several dudes lives

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>>59565598
Same

>>59565541
It bothered me how he was telling people to keep buying no matter the price. “It’s the next NVDA”. Once it hit $10 he’d say it’s going to $20, once it hit $20 it was going to $30, etc. Just nonstop shilling.

>>59565716
>>59565755
I will send you 5,000 if you livestream your suicide

>markets closed tomorrow because some old dude died

>>59565769
This is the third time his death was announced in the last 10 years

Just want you guys to know that I didn't buy quantum stocks

FED MINUTES AT 2PM

Got my puts ready any predictions?

>>59565831
Bulls will make money
Bears will make money
Pigs will get slaughtered

GRRR

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People here see this and think it's a legit and well-run company

>>59565974
What red flags do you see, other than pinksheets?

>>59565765
what was the post

>>59565974
b2b companies are lazy af, get some life experience

LPSN bros, how we feeling? It's been holding its value relatively well compared to the rest of the market dumping.

Quantum bubble popped and now crypto is next.
Short MSTR, COIN, RIOT, MARA

>>59565982
>>59565999
It's a company involved in IT, you'd expect it to look better than some graphic design and formatting from 2005

>>59566005
I sold cause interest seems low and I'll buy in again closer to earnings or around 1$ depending on how it turns out

>>59566026
short NVDA

>>59566026
Is it time for BTC go -60%? I’m scared of that happening. It’s going to be a bad time when MSTR and BTC get pulled down.

>>59566067
if it does go balls deep in MSTX

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>>59566067
$600M sold by COIN insiders in the past two months. Top is in.

>>59565831
Update: slower rate cuts, per Yahoo Finance

>>59566164
>>59566067
I'm Canadian so Coinbase is the only "real" platform for us. Is it worth offloading whatever I have? I've got about $800 in USDC, since I cashed out some other coins last night

>>59566198
>I'm Canadian
not for long

>>59565146
Hopefully that was the bottom. I've round-tripped this thing so hard.

I'm holding off on selling MSTR until after Trump takes office. I want to see if Saylor is going to pitch MSTR to Trump as America's official Bitcoin reserve

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>The markets will close on January 8 at 8 PM ET and they’ll remain closed until January 9 at 8 PM ET to honor the late US President Jimmy Carter.

Does anyone have any good resources for learning how to day trade? My broker gives me a list of most active stocks each day and I want to try to make some money trading small sideways movements, but don't know where to start as far as graphs and indicators are concerned. I've yolo'd this with a couple stocks and overall had a positive return, but I'm definitely just gambling.

>>59566340
>they’ll remain closed until January 9 at 8 PM ET
Sweet! We get to trade at 8 pm

>>59566364
Doesn't matter, you can flip coins on the market and unless you have good position sizing, risk management, and trade psychology you'll keep making mistakes, regardless of your TA

>>59566364
>Does anyone have any good resources for learning how to day trade?
Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, by Lefevre

>>59565418
200 $

>>59566378
>200 $
It's Not Too Late To Buy nVidia!
Worried You Missed Out? Analysts say nVidia is the best buy and hold stock in the market!
Bank of We-Already-Accumulated-NVDA-At $40-Last-Spring Raises Its Price Target for NVDA to $174!
NVDA Set to Outperform, Says Top Analyst
Will nVidia Continue to Dominate in 2025? This Billionaire Says Yes
Blackwell Is Dominating AI Orders, but Is Nvidia Selling Too Cheaply Right Now at $150?

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Where are the divy bros that were talking about yieldmax past couple of threads? I've been lurking and you guys have piqued my interest. I have 35k to ape and I want a cozy passive income stream - something small to moderate risk.

>>59566364
day trading is retarded. just find ten baggers and use leverage instead

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>>59566396
Accurate but it’s going back to 150 by month end and then violently rejecting it. It REALLY does not like to be above there. Anywhere from 120-140 is accumulation mode

Let’s get real, (((they))) dumped the market yesterday because NVDA hit 153 pre market ATH, as soon as it opened it dropped back to 140 within an hour, erasing hundreds of billions of market cap which in turn dumped all the indexes to the same effect and then caused everything else to sell off. NVDA controls the market. It’s in the DOW and among the highest concentration in the S&P and Nasdaq - there is no escaping it. It goes up, market goes up, sideways we trade flat, goes down big the whole market has a red day

Sure rising treasury yields and employment data didn’t help but (((they))) just can’t let retail get a W

>>59566423
The big thing with dividend maxxing is that it doesn't make sense if you just reinvest it. If you reinvest it you eat capital gains tax on the dividend and end up with a weaker portfolio than if you just went for growth stocks. Dividendmaxxing only makes sense if you're going to live off the money, such as if you're going for an early retirement. (I suppose it might also make sense in a tax free retirement vehicle like an IRA or 401k, where it'd be a slightly lower upside but safer downside alternative to regular stocks.)

That said, if you are doing that, look up the Roundhill 0 day to expiration covered call ETFs -- XDTE, QDTE, and RDTE, based on S&P 500, NASDAQ100, and Russell2000 respectively. They tend to closely follow their underlying indexes, sometimes even beating them. They usually beat their underlying indexes when the index is crabbing, but lose to the index when it is growing.

>>59566423
Indexes: QDTE, RDTE, XDTE

Underlying: MSTY, NVDY, PLTY, SMCY (buy ex div or on red days for better gains and DCA don’t just throw it all in)

Fund of Funds: YMAG, BIGY


There are others but a good place to start, research Roundhill, yieldmax and defiance ETFs and retire on dividends on YouTube has a lot of good vids on these

>>59565598
stable divvy stocks seem like the only good pick now. or maybe those government bonds or a fund that holds at least a bit of them. also cute clowns

I'm down 8.2 percent :)
I don't care, I don't panic. I just HOOOLLLLDD

>>59566465
>(((they))) just can’t let retail get a W
retail is the only thing preventing retail from getting a W. They need to learn how to read 10K and 10Q reports, that's the whole point, it's the only way to clear a stock as being suitable to then trade on technicals successfully.
>Anywhere from 120-140 is accumulation mode
nononono, "Stocks are manipulated to the highest point possible and then sold to the public on the way down. It is perfectly astonishing how much stock a man can get rid of on a decline". 120 -> 140 is DISTRIBUTION: accumulation already happened in spring 2024. They'll try to keep it in that range as long as possible, but eventually retail will get fatigued and the news cycle will reorient them, especially as backlash against AI starts when service-sector layoffs increase

>>59566274
God I fuggin hope so.

>>59566030
>>59565999
>>59565982
>Sees defense company that relies entirely on network connections with gov
>Sees geopolitical situation
>Sees website
>This shit ugly! Bad! Why they no web 3.0? Instagram pretty!

have you looked at ANYTHING government linked in the US? It looks like a 3 year old had a stroke when making it, what a fucking retarded take, if you think this is bad take a look at state reports from places like WV

>>59566396
what?

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>>59564992
>>59565120
>>59565139
Why did this asshole pour gasoline over quantum stocks?

>>59566505
so, what do you recommend accumulating right now?

Ok what if you bought one of those inverse ETFs to short natural gas and just held it till summer when natty gas is inevitably cheaper?

>>59566654
>Why did this asshole pour gasoline over quantum stocks?
because quantum computing cracks cryptocurrency, and he sells a substantial amount of GPUs to poorfag cryptominers, so he's trying to delay the coming selloff of his stock once word gets out (probably when Google hypes Willow more)
>>59566641
just all the retail-bait headlines pumping nvda are getting exhausting. It's actual price target (for institutions to hold it) is $40, they're just fleecing retail for now

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>>59566669
if you want to take a little bit of a risk, INTC. Might fall further, but it's going to pop on any mention by Trump of "making American technological manufacturing great again" or something. Fits the optics because of Trump's "cats and dogs" reference being in Ohio, where Intel is trying to open a fab, but it's a risk as to timing things, because their financial statements suggest a turnaround years from now unless the govt doesn't step in and juice them up. CPUs are more recession-proof than GPUs anyway.
Otherwise just hold cash until the market finds a bottom, then i'm going to look at defense stocks after the govt has already done its budget cuts/culling, especially anything related to orbital warfare.

>>59566687
I see your point, but can I ask how did you came to this concludion? about 40$ being the target price?
Fundamental Analisis says its rather underpriced now (Price indicators a bit below their medians)

>>59566722
I see, I will look into it, thanks anon

Quantum is going to drop a lot more right? Like RGTI to about 5-4$? Weird how those stocks took off when it is common knowledge the technology won't be viable for years

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Gentlemen, let’s see your gains. You did buy the bottom floor right? Too much resistance today to dump. NITO is going to pop on Monday. If you didn’t buy at 1.70 I feel bad 4 u.

>You VILL mourn ze boomer
>You VILL close ze markets
>You VILL applaud his anti-nuclear energy policies
>You VILL be happy

>>59566743
>about 40$ being the target price?
use US bonds as the nearest risk-free alternative. Treat net earnings from the company as if it were the coupon rate. Projected EPS for nvda right now is between $2.77->$2.95. Thats 1.97%->2.1% the current price ($140). The current 5 year bond is about 4.46% yield. So bonds are the smarter buy right now instead of nvda in terms of putting my money to work for me.
If the projected EPS for nvda were to be the exact same return as a bond (4.46%), then $2.95 is 4.46% of $66.14, so nvda would have to be $66.14 in order to be the same value as a bond. BUT then, the earnings of nvda may fluctuate (either up, or more likely down), so i have to adjust the price down to account for this risk.
but if you want to factor growth in, then you have to estimate how revenue has been growing, and depending on what points you want to take in determining your compounding growth rate, nvda will require between 200-250 billion dollars in revenue in order to justify its current price (which is comparable to the entire economy of Germany).
So yeah, simple conclusion is nvda is severely overvalued and just being dumped on retail who is too lazy to do math or actually read about what the product is nvda is selling (or where the "revenue" came from, which is orders, the products haven't actually been delivered yet...)

the only fundamental measure that "suggests" its undervalued is the PE, which used to be roughly 130x in 2022, but that's before nvda was "discovered" and when it was basically trading as a "collectible" stock among niche gaming enthusiasts. It was never really worth that (their dividend is total garbage), it was just too small for anyone to care other than fanboys. Its PB multiple is also crap (overvalues their "expertise" by double what it was before AI researchers and cryptominers found a new application for GPUs).
In the end, nvda is NOT an AI company: its a GPU company cashing in on the hype.

>>59566764
RGTI made an offering in November at $2 so that is what their management thinks is fair value. Not sure how it zoomed like 3000% but yeah it is going down for sure

>>59566817
makes sense, thank you

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>>59566768
it's probably only temporary at least for spy

>>59566687
You don't know what you're talking about.
Quantum computing is a scam.
Right now the largest number factored still is 21 from 2012, and even that required tricks like omitting circuits that you know are unnecessary because you know the result beforehand.
Breaking RSA would require three orders of magnitude more qubits. And the more qubits you have, the harder it is to keep them coherent.
It may be physically impossible to do.
Jensen was extremely generous with the 30 year prediction. In reality that could only be achieved if we reach the singularity, and even then it might be physically impossible, so it could never would work.

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>put a couple thousands into S&P 500
>the area where all american tech companies are burns down the same day

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>>59566905
>Quantum computing is a scam.
you are correct that lots of the quantum computing businesses are scams, and you are correct that the more qubits there are, the more noise could be introduced into the system, thus compromising accuracy, and error checking is a totally different beast with qbits.
HOWEVER
there is a ginormous difference between CONSUMER-GRADE quantum computing (which jensen was talking about) and "private" quantum computing.
When it comes to stabililzing qbits practically...why do you think the US is interested in greenland? Also, wouldn't it be useful if quantum computers were located in earth orbit? Lowering temperatures would be very helpful to maintaining stability of large enough quantum computers, but only nation-states or megacap corps could afford orbital computers.
In the end, it doesn't matter if quantum computing is feasible anyway: nvda is being bought by IGNORANT RETAIL, and if they can be convinced nvda is worth the price its selling at right now, they can be convinced that a viable quantum computer already exists that renders crypto transparent.
it already is, by the way

>>59565146
>AISP
like a milly shares bought by insiders yesterday. moon season imminent

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AISP SISTERS REGROUP!!! Over one million shares purchased by insiders since yesterday. Proof:

https://ir.stockpr.com/airship/sec-filings-email/content/0001161697-25-000036/form_4.html
https://ir.stockpr.com/airship/sec-filings-email/content/0001161697-25-000038/form_4.html
https://ir.stockpr.com/airship/sec-filings-email/content/0001161697-25-000039/form_4.html
https://ir.stockpr.com/airship/sec-filings-email/content/0001161697-25-000037/form_4.html
https://ir.stockpr.com/airship/sec-filings-email/content/0001161697-25-000044/form_4.html
https://ir.stockpr.com/airship/sec-filings-email/content/0001161697-25-000042/form_4.html
https://ir.stockpr.com/airship/sec-filings-email/content/0001161697-25-000041/form_4.html
https://ir.stockpr.com/airship/sec-filings-email/content/0001161697-25-000043/form_4.html

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>>59566768
>Gains
God I wish. This whole week has been suffering so far

>>59566030
yeah a terabyte of javascript slop will definitely make it look more professional!

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>>59567050
Are you okay man?

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>>59566768
Not a great day, but to be expected when BTC goes down and I've got a lot of BTC based holdings.

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>>59565096
AISPcalls anon please tell me you sold. My bag hurts but what would hurt more is not realizing 300k worth of AISP calls when it was at $7 due to not wanting to take the tax hit. if still holding, please post update graph thx

>>59564992
How are you holding up bros? Did you fare well or at least not plummet? Do you still have hope for the market not getting fucked right now? I'm slowly starting to consider finally cashing out for a while. We had a good run but it cannot last forever.

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>>59566817
where do you get projected EPS from anon?
Im noob at fundamental analisis, I use PS Ratio, EV to EBITDA and Price to CFO per share and then compare it to medians when Im trying find out if price is good or bad.

Then I compare current upside to price too, but upside is based on Anaysts so idk now

>>59567101
fugg I forgor to crop it

>>59567081
i am financially ruined. i was 100% cash since november because i thought that everything was overvalued. literally everystock mooned since the election. finally fomo'd into some shitstocks (robotics, not quantum i'm not THAT retarded) at ath and lost a huge portion of my savings because of panic selling after todays big dump. i hate myself so much bros, i just lost control...

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>>59567069
here it is in all it's glory. it was fun to have money for awhile.

>>59567050
yes

>>59567069
I just wanted to wait one more day, a $250k mistake apparently. I think we're gonna climb back up and hopefully I can get out with a $100-150k gain or so. I was so close to pulling the trigger on a dream home too kek

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>>59567050
>>59567163
i had a feeling that was your chart. oof. when do they expire? is the contract in play or was that all made up by some anon

>>59567061
yes

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I’m new to stocks but I think I’m doing pretty good. I need to learn how to do options trading because i still have that disabled.

>>59567168
They expire 1/17, I think with the recent insider purchasing and investor relations stating 'lots of news' this month, there's a chance it legs up next starting tomorrow. Investor relations also said 'lots of news' this month.

>is the contract in play or was that all made up by some anon
It is and I'm also the one the anon that made it up.

All things considered it was still a good trade, and I'm still in the green actually. I just didn't exit when I should have - I peaked on the literal worst day of the year to peak, so hard to sell knowing waiting one more day pushes off a $50k bill an entire year. And the markets have been poopy since New Year. Going forward I'm going to of course disregard the tax years when closing a position, though. Trying not to beat myself up about too much and will just start looking for the next one after this.

But, I do sincerely hope it rallies into the 17th. A couple 30-50% days and we could be back at $7-9, so it's not completely unrealistic - we had tons of those on the way up from $2 - and I may still be able to close out with my beloved $300k.

>>59567129
meanwhile i sometimes go 40% in red and don't sell :D

>>59567211
thats the way to go

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>>59567129
>everything is overvalued, I will wait for a correction
>AAARRGRGUUUAH I can't TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!
>buys into the most overvalued, speculative sector
>crashes immediately
kek sorry anon but that's hilarious

>>59567081
Still very much up overall but gave a lot of my gains back over the last few days. It's not been a good time.

>>59567206
>But, I do sincerely hope it rallies into the 17th. A couple 30-50% days and we could be back at $7-9, so it's not completely unrealistic - we had tons of those on the way up from $2 - and I may still be able to close out with my beloved $300k.
nice copium. why not lock in the profits you already have? high momentum stocks like SOUN/AISP/PLTR are getting crushed and will likely continue

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>>59567183
0-120k in less than 3 months what was the deposit? plays?

>>59567206
im a lot more optimistic after seeing the insider activity, thats solid buying the bottom yesterday from executives, they wouldnt do that ON NO NEWS. lets hope we do get some actual news on the company this month, contract or not. originally i wanted $7 but ill just take break even at this point. 1 more big red day might eat the loss, all the memes are now dumping, ride might be over. very reminiscient of 2020 SPACs era

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>>59564992
I'm looking for books about trading cycles.

>>59567264
>why not lock in the profits you already have?
Because I think it has a chance to run more (insider acquisition along with news after CES this week), and imo the chart is locally bottomed out (I'm not a TA guy really, but if I was looking to enter this would be a good entry for me).

>high momentum stocks like SOUN/AISP/PLTR are getting crushed and will likely continue
We'll see, but, like I said, I think AISP has a nice bounce in it right now with all the positive vibes from today. If we get a few green days with SPY I think things can pick back up market-wide, last week has just been tough and everyone's depressed rn or something.

>>59567270
Yeah I was hoping for $8+ personally, they really pulled the rug on us with $8 in PM market on New Year's Eve. It was climbing every day before that too so I was sure waiting one more day wouldn't be the end of the world.. If it looks like shit on Friday, I'll probably cut my position and move on.

>Down 1.4% today
Still in the black, but it does sting just a little bit.

Bears are euphoric, am I supposed to believe qc memery is a market crash? See Robert kiyosakis last tweet.

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>>59567337
Hope there are no bag holders in these names, RIP

>>59567392
damn i sold my qbits just in time. at the time i was still wondering if i should hold or keep a bit longer and of course next day it went down

WATT has surprisingly held at 80 cents
Need to sell my bags at or above $2
RN I'm DCAing into my Roth IRA each month and buying VTI
My 2 poorfolios total 20k and got hit hard by the meme stocks SOUN
I also went retard mode yesterday and bought HIMS at the local top

>>59567017
Shares purchased for cheap using their earn out rights so that they can dump on you all before the company goes bankrupt

>>59567508
Why would it go bankrupt? They're meeting the goals that give them said earnout rights. Company is growing.

Enjoyed Mia Lee’s weekly finance talk. Did anyone else watch it?

>>59567274
>Cycles: The Science of Prediction

>>59567549
Kek anon your calls are going to be worthless

>>59567584
Thanks. Would this be suitable as a starting point?

>>59566467
>>59566475
realistically how risky are these?

>>59567630
Yes, and its companion Cycles: The Mysterious Forces That Trigger Events. The author, Ed Dewey, was an economist and a former Department of Commerce employee.

I'd also suggest Ben Graham's book, The Intelligent Investor. It has a bit about knowing when to buy and when to sell, and the chapters on emotional discipline (1, 8, and 20) are indispensable.

>>59564992
Global economy will crash by April.
It will start in the UK with their financial institutions.
The party will be over soon.

>>59567640
There are some covered call ETFs that have been around for 10+ years. The strategy works, however it typically lags behind just owning the underlying stock. The main benefit of covered call ETFs is gaining dividends off them, so that you get cash flow even when the market is down without drawing down your holdings.

The Roundhill ones are new, and they do have a new trick to the strategy -- the covered calls they sell are 0 days to expiration. This has let them be much more accurate with predictions and has let the funds much more closely track the underlying index than the traditional strategy with longer calls. They've only been around for ~9 months, but I really don't see how they'd be any riskier than the other, older covered call ETFs.

The other thing is that these can be seen as a lower risk strategy than holding the underlying stock if you don't reinvest dividends back into the ETF. I'm taking this approach with MSTY -- I'll get less value than if I held MSTR and sold the top, but with holding MSTY and investing the dividends into VOOG I lock in that earnings elsewhere and even if MSTR and MSTY tank afterwards I've still made my money from dividends. But I don't think that's a real necessity for less volatile stocks.

>>59567622
>no argument
k

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>>59567640
>>59567685
This. I dont have much experience with the Roundhill but NVDY paid me 30k last year off of ~$60k investment. If you are worried about your cost basis, buy ex dividend and on dips.

NVDY is a pretty good price right now but if NVDA corrects further back to the 120s it could be sub 20 after the next distribution at end of month. If you are looking for weekly income get YMAG after the next ex-div (not sure if friday now with market being closed tomorrow). Pays anywhere from .10c - .30c per share and is around 18-19 right now.

MSTY - very volatile but is a good buy when MSTR is trading under 300 (roughly between 26-29). The payout is higher but if you get caught buying when MSTR moves up a lot you can baghold your cost basis but on the plus side still collect a sizable dividend.

Also recommend not using DRIP and instead using the distribution to buy other stocks (or pay bills), and if you do use some of it to buy more shares, buy ex-div and on red days. MSTY is usually the go-to one I recommend as you get the BTC exposure and MSTR's volatility makes it so that the fund generates a lot of monthly option income.

Thoughts on SCHD?

>>59565030
That's what his asshole looks like after gripping all those cocks

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>>59567804
SCHD has an annual dividend of $0.99 per share, with a yield of 3.64%. The dividend is paid every three months and the last ex-dividend date was Dec 11, 2024.

$1 dividend per share (annual) with $3 upside. Exciting.

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Biden with a going away present to further fuck the markets for Trump when he gets in. Expect NVDA to break 130 Friday...guess this is the news that (((they))) knew was gonna hit this week

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-08/biden-to-further-limit-nvidia-amd-ai-chip-exports-in-final-push

>>59567824
>Exciting.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.

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Poorfag who put like $250 into BTC back in 2021 - should I sell it and reinvest the $750~ in other stocks? Would be nice to have some money to play with and stop taking it out of my bank

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>>59567842
Does a 4% yield really sound like a lot of upside for you? You can get that leaving cash in a margin account. The same people that buy SCHD and all the safe shit think that it takes $1M to generate sizable dividend income. You Can make $20 in dividends yearly off of a $20 stock instead

$10k MSTY = $1k a month, $12k a year. You get your investment back in 10 months and play with house $.

$10k SCHD = $30/month (paid quarterly so $90) or $370 a year.

Chose your way. picrel updated this week

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damn, some big green volume on xiaomi

>>59567881
this only works as long as MSTR is hot though, the yieldmax funds aren't really buy and hold assets

How do you guys learn about analysis, what a company's proper valuation should be, etc.? I'm not afraid to do some math but I know almost nothing about how markets work and all the resources I find seem to be either a) baby-tier investopedia shit where they qualify everything with "but it depends, there's no way to really know, only experts can actually do this, just invest in ETFs" or b) already assume you understand the lingo and explain nothing. What's a good middleground that won't treat me like a retard but will actually start from the basics?

>>59567925
Agreed, they're momentum plays.
Like sleeping with a BPD girl. They're fun, great but watchout. It's how I'm treating plty and I'm even cautious of it because it's getting a price correction.

>>59567939
damn can't escape the retard coomers anywhere it seems

>>59567939
>Agreed, they're momentum plays.
But if you treat them like this you lose out on the tax benefits of ROC distributions. The only high yield funds that make sense to me are Roundhill's 0DTE funds. Those are the only ones I'd potentially be ok with holding for longer periods of time in order to capitalize on ROC.

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>>59567925
they sell OTM calls so can make money when the underlying goes down, thats why they don't go down go down as much on days that the underlying does. of course this works both ways and are capped on the upside but have synthetic longs to make money when it goes up. but yes in general these really only work in a bull market, never full port these type of plays but use them to generate income (similar to if you had a rental, your initial down payment comes out but the landleech gets to pay for the mortgage without using his own income)

>>59567939
they can be volatile, have dipped my toes recently into PLTY lately since its another high yielder and PLTR is on a discount

>>59567960
I'm a leaf, so If I were to sell for profit I wouldn't be taxed since it's in my TFSA.
If I do hold it till it becomes "house money" then every time we get a distro, I get taxed 15% on it.

Any thoughts on investing in QQQ/M over VOO or VTI? There's a Bogleheaded angel on one shoulder telling me to go with VTI but there is also a devil of some sort who is making me look at the composite Profit Margins and Operating Profitability of the NASDAQ and its performance over the past decade and and a half.

>>59567720
Sorry anon but you are going to get dumped on by the AISP board over the next week and end up with $0. That’s what you get for being greedy

>>59568167
>That’s what you get for being greedy
I don't think I was being greedy, I had specific exit conditions before entering the trade, which didn't include price but instead depended on certain news announcements taking place. I might sell at open Friday, but investor relations has told me they'll have 'lots of news' by EOM. Positive news can send it flying, which was why I entered the trade in the first place.

>>59568167
Do they not have a certain amount of time they have to hold for if they just bought?

LPSN bros.. I dont feel so good

>>59568191
They also told you the 50M contract will be announced in December…kek do you still believe them?

>>59568244
They said it’d be shipped and installed, not necessarily out announced. And it may have been a misunderstanding. Idk why investor relations would lie

i was feeling pretty down today but looked at the 1 year AMD chart
jesus christ what a piece of shit good thing i didn't buy anything thinking it would go parabolic like nvda

>>59568248
I bought some early on expecting it go at least go up a little, not fucking go down like a water slide

>>59566467
yes this is lost on the retards on r/dividends, capital gains are better because long terms gains are taxed at a lower rate, in a way dividends are capital gains are the exact same thing in terms of value, it's just that one pays out on a quarterly basis whereas the other is retained as equity value, there are "qualified dividends" that can help lower taxes but still doesn't make sense during accumulation phase

also, if you really want dividends you can just periodically sell a portion of your position, in effect creating your own dividend, companies paying dividend are selling a portion of the company back to the holder, thus reducing net asset value, aka the underlying equity is worth less now

>>59568267
And here I was thinking dividends are paid out of earnings.

>>59568247
>Idk why investor relations would lie
Seriously?

>>59567927
unironically watch old (pre-prison) martin shkreli videos, he walks you through the entire process of analyzing the quarterly reports and building your own spreadsheets, bro was literally giving free lessons on what entry level wall street analysts slave to learn

>>59568305
Yes, seriously. Wouldn’t that be a serious crime? And they outsource investor relations as well.

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Toldya Anon post updated position

>>59568271
Earnings are a part of the company's assets. The company's balance sheet always goes down when it pays dividends, they money doesn't just come from nowhere.

>>59568271
a more helpful metric is analyzing the discounted dividend growth rate of a company, for example, if a company has 10 consecutive years of dividend growth, then that's a good sign, in dumbass terms it just means the company is 1) mature (like utilities, basic materials, oil/gas etc...) and 2) has profitable (and sometimes slow growth which is what allows them to remain competitive), this is a worthy dividend stock to hold, just remember that getting paid a dividend means you're taking a payment now instead of the stock price going up

companies like to have a history of dividends over time because it affects their valuation and prestige, that's why they will make bullshit board decisions to continue paying dividends if they are not profitable or their growth is stalled

for most of the poorfags in /biz/ it's better to invest in growth focused blue chip companies that will provide nice capital gains growth, if you really need the money you can always sell, thus "paying yourself a dividend," instead of buying dividend stocks and paying taxes every year only to reinvest it or gamble it away on options

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TSYY

Looks like graniteshares is going to start coming out with these - no position just watching this

>TSYY is actively managed seeking current income and the daily 2x leverage of the price performance of Tesla Inc (TSLA). The fund sells put options to generate income and holds other ETFs that pursue the leveraged exposure to TSLA.

Ok, I thought "this H1B bullshit is terrible for americans but not for Tesla". But with this retarded bullshit Trump is starting now Tesla needs to watch out that they aren't going to get fucked basically everywhere around the world.

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>>59568340
Been a bit busy with legal shit lately but Im not selling $SOUN under 30, Im content holding for a year. If I need to take money out im selling BP or PLTR before $SOUN.
I wouldnt dump on you, if i stop posting I am holding all my shares in a jail cell.

>>59565463
I think its funny you do this every time it dumps but you are miraculously no where to be found when we make new highs. Im sitting cool.
>>59565505
It just began, we arent even profitable yet.
>>59565718
I was shilling because of the short interest, at a certain point you have to be realistic, if it went to 100 im not holding up the same attitude I was trying to cause FOMO to rape the shorts and worse comes to worse its still a fundamentally good company. You only lose if you trade with emotion, https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ces-2025-soundhound-ai-debuts-140700380.html
Theres nothing wrong with $SOUN besides maybe people having fomo to get into cerence(nice call btw didnt get in) but cerence is just an add on, soundhound is still a core part of nvidia voice AI. Do you think I like these dips either? If youre buying a stock you should be willing to hold it for 5 years if the market closes, if soundhound moon shots then obviously im taking profit but its a fundamentally good play. This is early PLTR energy, yeah shit on it because it had a red day but in 730 days you can not deny the utility this company provides.
https://investors.soundhound.com/news-releases/news-release-details/soundhound-ais-amelia-wins-xcelent-advanced-technology-2024

>>59568686
My man, simply scribbling out your sensitive info isn't going to cut it. I suggest you crop it out entirely.

>wolfspeed speedrunning to $0.00
Nice!

>>59568771
Enlighten me why do you say that?`

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I don't get it bros, so if people are selling a stock, the values goes down, people are offloading it. But people are equally buying the stock so why doesn't it actually go up. It needs to be sold to someone.

>>59568957
Shhhh anon, you are digging too deep, the greedy ones will not let it slide.

>>59568957
>help what are market makers

>>59564992
So, who will be the biggest winners to profit from the LA fire? This could be the biggest American construction project in decades, some people will make alot of money from it. What are some construction stocks to invest into?

>>59567101
>where do you get projected EPS from anon?
projected EPS is always a form of voodoo. You can do your own estimated EPS by consulting the latest 10Q or 10K and either taking the latest net income OR estimate revenue growth and account for profit margin in order to estimate future earnings. You can also look online at a bunch of different analysts estimates, and you also do have to consider whether there will be any year-end boosts to earnings (like subsidies, etc). You should also estimate a target EPS that the stock would need to make to justify its share price, and you do that using bonds as the risk-free alternative. That way you can get a sense of the time required (for TVM stuff) and you can read the market after each earnings call is released (THAT is why nvda keeps dropping after every earnings call, even if it supposedly "beat" earnings. it's because it's not beating it by enough because the growth priced in already is fuggin astronomical, like literally the economy of germany).
EV-to-EBITDA is usually useful, and with nvda its falling also, but they don't have a debt or creditor problem anyways.
>compare it to medians
comparing nvda to the rest of the tech sector becomes deceptive if the rest of the tech sector is also in a bubble, which it is. Bond comparisons on most tech stocks make this painfully clear. Try a bond comparison with something like F to see.
Fundamentally, nvda is not alarming, the only problems for them is the share price being stupidly high...and some other things like involvement with china through shell companies, and how nvidia has been "investing" in companies which buy their own chips (so in essence, they're giving money to a company which then places orders with them, so it looks like they're making more sales). They are doing some scammy things to keep the bubble up like that, but the main bubble-makers here are institutions trying to keep the hype up as they unload, nvda is just their puppet.

>>59569061
Help me bro what are market makers

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>>59568957
Pic related is the order book. The price of the stock can be considered as the midpoint between the highest bidder and lowest seller, so (2842+2850)/2 or better yet the volume weighted average price of the top orders or even multiple levels.
Now I come in and sell 1500 lots to the best buyer(s). The best buyer disappears from the order book because his trade is filled. Now the best bid is 2840. What happens to the stock price?

>>59569121
It goes down?

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My university says "check messages for aid issues" but when I do, it just says I have an outstanding balance for this semester. But they never disbursed aid to me, despite the fafsa approving me, so I can't pay them. So I dropped all my classes and I will probably just take up 3 part time jobs this semester. If they don't get their shit fixed next semester I will drop out entirely.

>>59569081
Big huge boys are suppressing your stockarinos SQUEEZE THE HEDGIES

>>59569062
All the money will go to grift, nothing will be rebuilt except for mansions, pajeets will be hired on the cheap to do the construction instead of americans.

>>59567881
What happens when the dividend price drops. Like if you bought 10k worth when it's at $30.00 a share but then it drops to $15.00 a share. Wouldn't the dividend be smaller so you wouldn't be getting 1k a month off your 10k investment?

>>59569579
don't know what you mean by "dividend price".
If the dividend is reduced or cut altogether, the share price usually drops, sometimes significantly.
If the share price falls but the dividend paid per share remains the same, then the dividend yield increases. As long as the company continues to pay dividends, thats the best time to buy stock in it.
Stock price and cash dividend paid per share move separately for many different reasons. Getting a 10% return tends to be extremely risky...beware dividend yield traps: you might get 10% at the beginning but the share price usually falls (sometimes dramatically) and you'll wind up selling your shares at a loss which exceeds the gains you made in dividends. BDCs and MREITs are somewhat notorious for this

How do you even get started with this and how good are the returns in general? Also, how much do you need to invest before you start getting good payouts?

>>59569641
just buy index funds and you'll beat 90% of people here, also buy ever paycheck and you'll beat 99%

>>59569595
I'm questioning the guy who said 10k of msty will get you 1k a month in dividends. Because what if msty shares go down by 50% wouldn't you only be getting 500 a month not 1k?

Sad to see how many people here openly talk about buying 'meme stocks'. You know that was just a marketing term right? If you wanted something high-risk/reward, you should open your minds to GameStop.

>>59569707
>I'm questioning the guy who said 10k of msty will get you 1k a month in dividends. Because what if msty shares go down by 50% wouldn't you only be getting 500 a month not 1k?
Okay. Right now MSTY is trading at $30, and the dividend yield is around 10%. It's an ETF that derives its dividends from options trading. If the stock price goes DOWN that shouldn't have any impact on the dividend amount in $ that they pay out: if they manage their options trading poorly, THEN their dividend payout will decrease. In fact, their options trading is totally dependent on the price action of MSTR, so if MSTR does poorly, MSTY will get fucking creamed.
This kind of ETF is something to be extremely careful with, because if their dividends go down, the stock price will certainly plummet.
So there is a possible situation where you put 10k into MSTY, which buys you say 300 shares where each share "should" pay a $3.00 dividend. Then, their dividend goes down because their options trading goes poorly, imagine it goes to $2.00 per share, and then the stock price drops as a reaction to this to say, $20. Now you are stuck holding 300 shares valued at $20 (if you sell, you're left with $6000), and they're only paying you $600 dividend...
See how this could be a dividend yield trap? You're enticed by the 10% yield but you need to be certain the stock will actually deliver over time. Any of these high-yield dividend ETFs are to be handled with extreme caution, and should really not be held long term. And in the short term, you're also paying a premium for their management fees and you'll have to be an additional service fee for even buying and selling their stock
caveat emptor. YOU are the product in these kinds of stocks, most of the time

>>59569690
Well, to get started, you should probably dive into Wyckoff and Elliott Wave Theory. I mean, nothing says 'I’m a serious trader' like pretending you know how the market moves based on patterns from 100 years ago, right?

As for returns—well, that depends. Sometimes you might be up, sometimes you might be down. It’s like a rollercoaster, except you can’t scream for help when you're holding bags.

As for how much to invest before you see good payouts? That’s a mystery only the market knows. But if you’re lucky and somehow nail the right wave, you could see some sweet gains... or you could just end up with some more learning material for your next chart analysis.

Markets closed today?? Why?

>>59569930
>Markets closed today?? Why?
jimmy carter died, closed in "honor" of him
really just a way to sell off and start the decline in earnest

>>59569930
ex president roped himself after putting all his money into memestocks, fuck off, markets closed

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>>59569579
Historically it has paid between $2-$4 per share since inception. If MSTR plummets the MSTY price will do the same but not be as exposed to as much downside. The yield is generated through the IV plus options premium they collect on the trades executed during the month held by the fund, not how much MSTR goes up or down in a particular month.
Unrelated note someone translate this to terms of if we are fucked or not tomorrow when numbers come out, Picrel. Are we at bad news is bad news or bad news is good news on employment numbers?

I would imagine anything that raises the chances at a Fed cut would be good for the markets since it seems like this week they are pricing in rates staying flat next meeting

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>>59569840
>I mean, nothing says 'I’m a serious trader' like pretending you know how the market moves based on patterns from 100 years ago, right?

Ohnonono, Jesse Livermore bros not like this

wall street faggots shutting the market down for the day. they're scheming the next moves for soun while we wait for tomorrow morning

What if i buy a stock the day before dividend date? Cant i just collect all the dividend? Seems too good and easy to be true. Whats the catch?

>>59570218
Usually the record date is several days if not weeks before the dividend is paid out. So you have to hold it by the record day to get the payout. In many if not all instances the record date is prior to the payout date

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>>59570218
You can buy any day before the ex date. The catch is the stock price goes down by the amount of the dividend payout so if you have a shitty cost basis or bought high then your position will have an unrealized loss post distribution.

There are people that specifically try the dividend capture strategy but is pretty nuanced and you have to really nail the timing. You also forego tax benefits of holding long and receiving qualified dividends taxed at a lower rate.

>>59570045
>Unrelated note someone translate this to terms of if we are fucked or not tomorrow when numbers come out, Picrel. Are we at bad news is bad news or bad news is good news on employment numbers?
This indicates that a deflationary period is incoming. Avg earnings increases are not enough to beat inflation and unemployment increasing is due to layoffs ie businesses can't afford to keep people employed.
Get ready for the recession to be recognized.
Finally.

>>59570292
I’ve got a ton of cash on hand ready

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I’ve made 40k on XRP so far on a like 8k basis so I’ve made this $ back but I still feel dread at 25 for mistakes 18-20 year old me made during the meme stock craze. I bought AMC at 4$ and rode it all the way to the ATH and all the way to this very bottom where we are now. Hard lesson learned and j don’t know what it do with it at this point. Maybe leave it and pray one day I can even out in 15 years I guess

>>59567392
I was thinking about buying puts on some of these just a couple weeks ago. Fuck me.

>>59570314
Here’s a lesson: no one ever went broke taking profits

>>59569840
I dove into some of this stuff already. Elliot wave is convoluted and confusing. The one book I read from wyckoff told me to get people to investigate a company before investing. But also that it feels better to make 200 dollars from 100 than making the same amount using 500 dollar starting capital. There are other useful books though that are decently useful in building a trading plan. I believe that people understood the market better after the tape reading era, especially when they started using charts more. Gann's how to make profits in commodities is pretty useful but it's just mostly fib retracement lines with a focus on certain aspects of it.

>>59570054
This book didn't really provide much info, it was mostly just the ups and downs of his life.

>>59570218
yes

>>59570493
>This book didn't really provide much info, it was mostly just the ups and downs of his life.
it has some good big-picture lessons and some good practical tips on how to conduct your trading, and such things are amazingly forgotten by the vast majority of traders. It's highest utility is as a comfort read, god knows you need that from time to time in this business

>>59570612
Despite being an excellent trader he had to give up his yacht 2 or 3 times. His wealth preservation was certainly lacking and is a common trait amongst many traders.

>>59567725
I'm already way over exposed to btc and crypto and general - that's why I'm wary of MSTY. I don't know if we'll continue to pump more into 2025 or we're drawing near the end of this crypto cycle. I feel like NVDY, TSLY, APLY, YMAG, or YMAX would be safer plays.

>>59569830
this is what scares me.

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thoughts on japanese nuclear construction companies like hitachi or mitsubishi heavy industries?

Should I DCA into TSM or maybe a general semiconductor ETF like BAKA this year?

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>>59569930
due to AIDS

>>59570634
>I feel like NVDY, TSLY, APLY, YMAG, or YMAX would be safer plays.
This is nuts. NVDQ is the only sure thing now that Elon is in government, YMAG is just suicidal

>>59570643
kek these old ass filters are still active I see
the shaking my head ETF

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>he's not buying GME which is showing the most bullish chart

>>59570634
>this is what scares me.
yeah the most significant overvaluation in the market as a whole right now is in tech, real estate, and finance, so they will all be hit hard.
The extra shit on top is all of those derivative oriented ETFs? they're all part of the finance sector. each one is a different financial product unto itself, so when it's said "theres a bubble in the finance sector" it's referring not just to the financial companies themselves such as BX or KKR etc but also to the whole slew of ETF stocks managed by financial companies (like all the iShares stuff or anything put out by Vanguard or BlackRock).
ESPECIALLY the dividend traps: in that situation where the stock's price drops 50% AND its dividend gets cut in half...the yield would still be 10%, and the next sucker is looking at it going "sure it's going down but look at that dividend!"
they move

I've been watching youtube vids and i see "XAI93W" getting spammed in the comments. Is this stocks or crypto?

>>59570670
Why are you so bearish? You really think we're due for a market correction and the AI hype has run it's course? And what's Elon have to do with anything.

>>59570703
okay I just now read this. I guess you explained yourself. But I'd still like to hear you go into depth more about Elon why you think tech and finance are bubbles. (I can see real-estate though)

Please god let tomorrow be a sea of green

Inb4 reddit but do you people think that it's worth getting into for a quick pump or is it too late?
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>>59570994
>sold out of MVST yesterday for a 20% loss

I may be the unluckiest man on the planet

>>59568758
>its a fundamentally good play.
Not really, fundamentals are terrible actually - it's way over fair value and has no moat.

>>59570799
It's a pump and dump scam, if you pay attention, all the accounts posting about it are bots

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Nokia, Nokia, Nokia, Nokia.

>>59570829
>why you think tech and finance are bubbles.
the bond curve got utterly fucked during the lockdowns. It has ALMOST finished inverting, and that is an extremely strong sign that we are entering an official recession rapidly.
the REASON why is because (smart) people use bonds as a risk-free alternative in evaluating stocks, and the lower the bond yield goes, the more attractive stocks become. For an extremely simple example of how you can do this, look at how buffett treats stocks as "bonds with expanding coupons", but you can also think about what this would do to derived measurements such as the Sharpe ratio.
Look at the bond yields in 2020. Insanity. The roots of the current "everything" bubble begin there.
Add to that fears of inflation eroding your savings, and you have more people shifting their money into stocks (instead of bonds, which as mentioned had comparatively "worse" yields) and the increased demand for stocks also increases the price further.
The increasing price also attracts more and more brand-new (gullible) retail, who think they're being smart by "investing" in...among other things, options-market oriented instruments...and now you get even more incentive for institutions to manipulate the price to ensure more "max pain" price points are achieved. And these "max pain" price points are heavily influenced by "analysts" picking ridiculously high price targets to incentivize naive retail to buy the stock "while its still low"...
yadayada more
Bad stuff.
The bonds have nearly finished uninverting (12mo and 2y still need to be "fixed"), and this is now starting to be felt as large funds reposition themselves to account for this change in risk-free alternative. They're trying to fleece as much as they can from retail before the better bond yields suck in a lot of cash and we enter the inevitable deflationary period.
Now the bets are being taken for timing, and I personally think they want it to tank before inauguration

>>59570829
>more about Elon
he is extremely valuable to US defense, on account of starlink and space force (we're already engaged in a cold war orbital warfare with china). Tesla stock is not going to be allowed to crash. Might drop a little bit for appearance's sake. He's in DOGE for chrissake

>>59568758
I always shit on you slavnigger, for better or worse. Fundamentally SOUN is slightly better than the quantum stocks and doesn't deserve its current mc. And you could buy as much as you can and moon or drown, for all I care but you just fucked a lot of people here by shilling here all the time, shitting up the thread and even intentionally told them to hold until CES which turned them into official bagholders. Calling you a slavnigger is actually an insult to slavs. You're on the level of a pajeet streeshitting scammer.

>>59569930
Crocodile tears for the second worst President in our history. His malaise extends even beyond the grave.

SOUNbros...?

>>59564992
Anyone surprised markets are closed today?

>>59570933
I'm expecting tomorrow to be massively red, unless we get some very good news from LA soon.

>>59571374
did you redeem?

>>59571446
Why would it go down even more?

>>59571448
no, I only put like 50$ on it because I had some spare change
I'm just seeing what happens next

>>59571171
I told them to dollar cost average. I think people who bought the top won't regret it in 2 years.

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>>59571457
Check the news. The second biggest city in the US is burning to the ground. We're days into the inferno and it's still growing, and winds are about to kick up something fierce tonight.

>>59571465
>dollar cost average
DCA is how you try to make yourself feel better for having been wrong.
Cut your losses as quickly as you can, it's going to fall MUCH further, then when it finds a base you can pick up much more then.
If you weren't planning on DCA up to a predetermined point before you took a position, cut.

>>59571478
>The second biggest city in the US is burning to the ground.
yah. got any ideas for which stocks are gonna hurt the most?

>>59571465
>just two more years!

>>59571478
God’s reckoning at long last
Pls hit NYC next

Ayo fuck Jimmy Carter

When I think about that the dumbest fucking retard stocks were the right way to go I feel sick to my stomach. All you had to do in 2022 was to go all in PLTR and you basically were set for life.

>>59571622
true pain.
> i bought about 900 shares at ~$6 and sold when it hit $15

Who shorted the market?!

>>59564992
If the stock market really gets fucked, are the euro zombie stocks worth moving to or are they going to get btfo as well, since the world economy is so dependent on the US?

>>59571139
I guess we'll just have to see. I understand where you're coming from but I also would hate to miss out more in tech pumping more.

>>59571153
That is at least in part why I mentioned TSLY. And I don't see AI hype waning anytime soon. Which is why I'm still somewhat bullish on nvidia. Grok and Tesla are both trained on Nvidia’s chips no?

Anyone think there's weight behind the robotics narrative being the next meme?

>>59571731
>don't see AI hype waning anytime soon. Which is why I'm still somewhat bullish on nvidia. Grok and Tesla are both trained on Nvidia’s chips no?
as service-sector layoffs increase, you can anticipate a serious backlash against AI, which will be viewed as having "replaced them" (whether or not this is true). That's just sentiment though.
If you trust the people running TSLY, then fine that's your call that they're good enough to ride the waves. Mind you, I think TSLA is going to drop, but not into the grave, so its really a personal issue with how good a person is at reading the tape on that one.
But NVDA? Overpriced as all hell. Their fundamentals are fine, but the price is so obviously koo-koo. The only edge nvda really has going for it might be CUDA, but in a recession its customers will switch, plus NVDA are seriously powerhungry and have cooling issues, which further increase costs associated with running them.
Risk free comparison of nvdia places it's value at < $70, and will decrease further as bond yields increase. Plus the needed revenue to justify current share price is just under the GDP of Bulgaria, and nvda has no chance of raking in that much in sales within the next 3 years, let alone the next 2 quarters. So yeah, they're going down. Also, look at the volume from FYE 2023 to now...we're in the distribution phase.

Get in on Verizon NOW.

Thoughts on ASML?