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Quantum baggie edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.barchart.com/
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.xvideos.com/

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

Previously on /smg >>59564992
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>>59575314
BITI, UVXY, NVDQ, INTC
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>>59575314
My brain says robotics is next big thing. What robotics stocks to buy that are low mcap???
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why is spy dumping?
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LPSN bros... it's not ogre yet
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Just found out my wife has $150k sitting in her bank account...What's the best brokerage account ? Etrade? Charles Schwab? We clearly need a financial advisor but I'm not sure what the best step is right now to get this money into the market. I've only ever invested into my 401k and messed around with Robinhood
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*ahem*
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>59575361
Fidelity.
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its so bad i just decided to get my first short
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MVST seems to be rising.
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>>59575425
https://www.stocktitan.net/news/MVST/microvast-announces-breakthrough-in-true-all-solid-state-battery-u1atse4xpj29.html
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Why is GRRR and SOUN dumping so hard?
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They killed the economy over fake and gay part time / 2nd jobs that will surely get revised down the next time the report comes out


Think the move is to move into gold and crude oil stocks
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>>59575361
Fidelity or Vanguard.
RB IF AND ONLY IF you get a promotion ie 2% on new contributions.
M1 if you want to teach your spouse how to gamble stonks.
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>>59575336
watching EKSO but haven't done anything yet think it will go down more
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sold all my SOUN..managed to keep a 800 profit. I didn't think it would go down thing low
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There is still time to short quantum stocks. IONQ is at $32 and will be trading below $10 in a month or two time.
Scared money don't make money
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>>59575314
Is it prudent to move to euro stocks if I believe that things will continue to move on the present course for the burgerinios? If not, are there any good stocks to wait it out?
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>>59575541
you can get like 5% easy from money market funds right now
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>>59575541
with the new euro DEI policies, no they'll do a nice job fucking up their corporate leadership
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if anyone is into private stocks AtomBeam looks promising
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>>59575541
Commodity etfs like BOIL are a good play right now, alternative, MMFs like that other anon said
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>>59575472
Where is this screenshot from?
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>Quantum baggie edition

y-you did sell the top, didn't you /biz/? you didn't seriously buy into the vaporware, did you?

>>59575361
I like Schwab but Fidelity's fine too

>We clearly need a financial advisor but I'm not sure what the best step is right now to get this money into the market.

$150k either goes into a house or the S&P500. You don't need to make it complicated

>>59575541
MMF is the way. The EU is tied to the US's hip and you are silly to bet against the US
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>>59575644
Probably a Bloomberg terminal but tradingedge.club free site lots of TA on stocks and economy
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>finally decide to put my money in the market.
>buy Nvidia at 146
>whole tech market dumps

200 EOY though r-right?
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>>59575721
The move is to DCA and bagholding, unfortunately. I am right there with you after selling right before CES and then into’ing it pre market and forgetting to set a stop loss. 1 hour of waging and the market being open and now I have to bagholding for months to break even, again. Have a similar bag on fidelity but bought those around 140.
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Time for a discount, bros?
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If I say please will Nvidia go up?
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Currently practicing with paper trading. I'm doing pretty good so far.
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VIX is nearing 20. Don’t even bother trying to trade just sell
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>>59575739
cringe. my short is already up over 5% today
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>>59575782
>will Nvidia go up?
nvidia is in distribution. accumulation occurred last spring at around $40. Look at the weekly volume. This will get strung out and range from 120->140 until FYE 2024 report comes out, then it's going to 100->120, then by summer it'll pierce below 100.
if you want to try timing it and ride the waves down, the bets are:
1) they need to close near to 140 before the end of today in order to make the technical crowd think it's got support at 140 (unlikely that MM has enough powder to do this) so that they can retest 145 next week.
2) NEXT week's candle needs to end green in order for people to think it's "bounced" off of 133 and they should dive in, so next week it opens low 130s (132) and closes high 130s (137)
3) they try to spin/hype it over the weekend to get the opening price up to high 130s and then sell off while they can.

BIG thing to look out for: entire market dropping to fuck trump's inauguration optics and thus taking NVDA down too

but it's looking like a doubletop on the weekly, and the CES pop is looking like a clear anomaly on an overall daily decline.

fair value for nvda still sits at $70, on the generous side, so MM will only be interested in holding if they can get it around $50, so it's got a long way to go but they can wait and in the meantime sell what they can to the johnnycomelately public boomers posing as tech-savvy
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>>59574327
>1) quantum computers located in extremely cold climates (hello greenland)
This fucking retard ACTUALLY thinks no one thought to cool QCs, holy shit, what a fucking retard! Protip: Cryocoolers are colder than Greenland, and cryocooling is necessary for even the completely worthless toy QCs we currently have

>2) quantum entangled orbital computers
Vacuum of space has shit thermal conductivity, you freeze in space because of evaporative cooling. Also, cryocoolers are colder than orbital space

>goodbye crypto
Bitcoin is already quantum proof. P2PKH dumbfuck
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>>59575341
VIX
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>>59575841
>no one thought to cool QCs
placing QCs in a cool climate dramatically reduces the costs of cooling it, of course QC needs as close to absolute zero as possible...is this not obvious?
>Bitcoin is already quantum proof
nope. you just need to select the target wallet carefully in order to destabilize it past recovery. if you combine this with severely restricting bitcoin miners, then you can break the blockchain to render bitcoin effectively worthless as a trustworthy transaction log and socially worthless. it's not a matter of "oh I run a special quantum program and then 15 minutes bitcoin is cracked!", its a matter of nationstates being able to assert demonstrative control over all cryptocurrency, which is what they want. so yeah bitcoin is toast wtf else would you expect
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>>59575907
>reducing the cost
Irrelevant. The problem is not the cost, the problem is we can’t fucking build a working one
>nope
False. P2PKH is fully quantum proof.
>restricting miners
Ahh yes, bitshit is finished, just as soon as state actors acquire a complete worldwide monopoly on asics and fabs and the knowledge to build either. Trust the plan! Two more weeks! Secret fiatcels in control!

Further, irrelevant to the discussion of QCs and their (nonexistent) threat to btc
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Is it over for SOUN?
I didn’t buy or sell a single share but was watching it for fun
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>>59575955
It's over for everyone.
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>>59575935
>QCs and their (nonexistent) threat to btc
there is nothing to be gained by convincing you, you know enough to make up your own mind, but it's important to see the big picture/long play here and sort through your convictions to see where the contradictions are. Unless you can explain how bitcoin can be destabilized, then you aren't really aware of the risks, so what could you be but a pumper? nvda sells a lot to bitcoin miners, are you buying nvda?
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Damn, I legitimately felt bad because I got out of the market post-December Jerome Powell speech, which caused me to lose about 4% off my 53% YTD peak gains. Thank God I did though lmaoooo this market is fucked.

Now I can just sit comfy with cash and wait for this to all blow over.
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>>59576075
Based. Wish I'd done the same, i rode it down and came out with meager gains, ditto sitting in cash for now.
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>>59575314
Quantum sisters, what went wrong?
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>>59576075
>>59576091
How much cash bros?
I’ve got 50k on the sidelines
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Back to flipping burgers for me I guess
My low 5 figure poorfolio got rekt
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>>59576096
About $140k in cash, another $40k in VUG, but that's a long-term DCA position which I just treat like a 401k so I don't care what it does.
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>>59575361
Right now is a really bad time to get into the market desu
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MMRI spiking... This might be the big one bros.
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>>59576162
based and may give me the courage to kmspilled
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>>59576106

I turned my 6 figure port into low 5 figures, sold all the meme shit, playing volitility for the past week (spy puts printed today). already half way back to original value, might work out for you too. Earnings are next week for major banks and other companies. CPI, PPI, Job and housing are next week as well, SPY will bounce up and down
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>>59576162
I sold everything this morning. I’d rather lose $200 than $2,000
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>>59575361
Robinhood has a shitty reputation on this board and Plebbit, but they are offering a 4.5% return for cash which is pretty damn good. I think there might be a 4.75% incentive for new money, dunno though.

But like the other anon said, be fucking careful putting money in the market right now. We're at extreme ATHs with treasury rates spiking and general instability. If you insist on putting money into the stock market, at least DCA. Don't get fancy, nothing leveraged, no individual stonks, just boring old ETFs.
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VIX is ending over 20. It’s going to get bad.
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>>59576075
>>59576096
I'm still ~70k in S&P500, but that's a long term hold for however long boomers continue doomping their savings into it.
Quadrupled my 4k from PLTR thoughbeit and exited that. So along with cash savings I'm waiting with around 26k to jump back into the market.
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>>59576092
Have to put a stop loss when you’re up otherwise those unrealized gains turn into a red portfolio real quick
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What's a good online resource for learning about how to defend / win against institutional investors?
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>>59576262
don't fight them, anticipate them
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>>59575840
Your reasoning is sound, which makes me want to watch the stock according to your post, but at the same time, NVDA is the best performing stock of the past 20 years. Then again, the S&P 500 just ended a streak of 17 straight years of being green on the first trading day of the year
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https://seekingalpha.com/article/4748471-soundhound-ai-stock-red-flags-below-the-surface
sounbros...
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>>59576347
is anybody unironically still holding SOUN?
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why do posters of /smg/ sound at least two standard deviations smarter than all the other crypto thread posters? It's like two different boards.
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is there any chance nasdaq hits 18000 in the next month
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I just put a couple thousands into s&p 500 a day ago.
Guess I picked a bad time.
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>>59576365
>up 150%
I just like the stock. Not the sounshill either.
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>>59576406
put in another thousand
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>>59576380
When english is your first language you can better communicate your bullshit pump and dump
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>>59576380
Because compound interest over multi-year time frames is not intuitive to the human brain, while risking everything to be a big winner is a hallmark of grug-tier monke mind. The part of the brain that causes people to pursue the lottery or crypto moonshots is the same part that made humans take big risks to hunt calorie dense animals like woolly mammoths.

Unfortunately, this part of the brain is easily hijacked, hence why casinos are an infinite money printer for the owners.

Higher levels of abstraction necessitate more intelligence.
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>>59576380
Same reason the generals on /tv/ are better than the random threads.
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>>59576365
sold today, left with 800 profit. will buy again if it goes under ten and just hold it
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shill me your top 3 stocks
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>>59576495
Will let you know when they stop plummeting
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>>59576365
The original shill for it seems to be determined to go down with the ship.
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>>59575541
the only thing euros can currently profit from is rearming their militaries. besides Rheinmetall, Hensoldt could be a good pick, since they supply both weapons manufacturers with radar/optical sensors and ASML with some sensors for their EUV machines
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>>59576495
Cash.

Then be prepared for the BULZ + TQQQ play when stocks bottom out.
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>>59576406
It's only a bad time because it hasn't had time to recover yet just continue to DCA
>>59576495
I feel pretty confident in LUNR for the longer term. I expect a run up with the launch coming up. Probably a good time to buy the dip. Nasa anon had a pretty convincing DD a couple weeks back.

Space in general is probably worth buying for the longer term. It's been memed pretty hard lately, but the industry is only going to grow overtime, especially if we're talking about a multi year horizon.
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Almost green today. Looks like you guys missed the bottom again.
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Give it to me straight. How fucked am I holding NVDA right now. I plan on holding long term.
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>>59575840
I have to respectfully disagree
Quick Ratio, Debt to assets, Ohlson and CFO to debt all look really, really good for Nvidia.
CFO, Revenue, and EPS growth for the next 2 years are all between 20-40%.
Upside is at 20% right now, with median upside sitting at 10%
We talked about that yesterday, you seem well-wersed and your reasoning is solid, but I will hold(and buy more if it drops to ~125), as I think there is still a room for growth, and all of my markers show it.
I think they will benefit from robotics and AI in the future.
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>>59576536
>>59576588
thanks, I will look into them
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>>59576622
You are perfectly fine holding NVDA long-term unless you bought the tippy-top. It will start pumping again after the panic about Chinese trade cools down, which will probably happen fairly quickly after Trump declares "victory" over China. You might even think about doubling down on this dip. The real issue is if you're leveraged.
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>>59576648
I have just heard plenty of rumors of estimates at ~200 EOY and I just dont see that happening with its current market cap. But what do I know.
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>>59576622
long term you are fine
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>>59576622
nvda is not a long term hold unless you bought it at <$50. anyone that bought higher than that, sell while you can
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>>59575450
Macroeconomic conditions the job report, there's no negative news for the companies.>>59575721
This is why I say dollar cost average I wasn't saying buy 10 thousand worth at the top. >>59576508
Better than me dumping on you, 4 months ago we would of been tickled pink to be at 14, I'm holding comfy.
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>>59576633
>nvidia fundamentals look fine
it is not a distressed company, it's an overvalued one. it's not that they're worth "nothing", it's that they're worth less than half of what they're trading if they're treated like an investment.
It's a hype stock. The only way to make money buying in at ANY level above $60ish (and thats being generous) is to find someone else willing to buy it for more. Hot potato like this always ends the same way: retail gets exhausted and discouraged, the price falls, and MM starts accumulating again at the "fair" price. All that accumulation that occurred at $40 last spring? They don't like to buy if it's not a good long term hold at that price just in case. Additionally, take a look at all the form type 4's in edgar, especially from august until now. Notice all that nice selling? It's because they're going to buy it back after it falls. Seriously one of them the guy arranged a private buy and then sold it the same day when the price jumped: these are not people who think this is worth buying at this price "for a long term hold".
If you actually do look through edgar, can you tell me which guy did that? Seriously, he has an extremely pedestrian name (like davis or something) but his family's trust is worth billions, they have a new england address i think and i'm off the clock right now
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>>59575336
SERV and RR
I bough June 2025 SERV calls earlier today
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>>59576633
by the way, i hope you bought intc when it fell below 19 for a second. Their BVPS is like $25+ so this is one of Graham's wet dreams, spinoff or not of their fabs
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>market recovers all the losses for the day
>still down by over a percent thanks to the interday jews
These fucking kikes have been pulling this shit all month
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pulled the trigger on a few thousand shares of EKSO, fuck it
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>>59575314
There's plenty of talk about NVDA here, but what does this general think about AMZN? Looks like it's the best bet out of all these "magnificent 7" stocks. Is it overpriced?
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>>59576092
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>>59575314
Should I dump QUBT, QBTS, SOUN, RGTI and IONQ?
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I'm holding SOUN and WATT
It's over for me
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>>59576979
not SOUN
quantum is prolly dead for a decade at least
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buy puts on GME
all the other meme stocks got a haircut
for some reason it trades near '21 mania levels even after massive dillution
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>>59576990
>quantum is prolly dead for a decade at least
Fuck. What should I put it into?
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>>59576990
>not SOUN
Should I buy SOUN?

picrel is my AI/quantum porfolio
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>>59576804
I did at 19.10, thanks for suggestion
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>>59577013
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>>59576997
>GME puts
Yeah, this is something I wouldn't do. As a matter of fact, I'd sooner full port calls for the end of January. I don't have any reasoning behind it other than the people following the stock being CONVINCED it'll rocket up soon, (especially since there's huge call options being placed on it today) and with a memestock, the hype, and being buying into the hype, is the only thing it needs.
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>>59577013
yes
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>>59577049
Why? Do you really see it pumping again?

What about my other AI related stocks? LIke LUNR, ARKQ, AVGO, XT, RKLB etc
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>>59576937
Lets see

>Growth over last 5 years
Net income: 162% (with dip in feb 2023)
Revenue 133%
Cash from Operations 120%

Great growth I would say

>Margin

6.54% with upwards tendency
meh

>estimated growth over next 2 years

eps averge 22%
cfo per share avg 20%
Revenue evg 11%

Its good, could be better

>Fundamentals
debt to assets 29.3%
rather high but ok
Ohlson score probability 0.15%
nice

Quick ratio 0.84
1 upwards is good to mee, but its not that bad
cfo to debt: 0.55
good

Fundamentals are good overall

>Pricing
PS Ratio 3.85 to 3.35 5y median
kinda expensive but not too bad

P to CFO per Share 21.16 to 25.32 5y median
cheap

EV to EBITDA 21.75 to 24.51 5y median

kinda cheap

Price is about average with slight tendency toward cheap imo

>Upside
10.45% to 22.09% 5y Median (min -10% and max 74%)

Current upside looks bad

I dont think you would lose much by buying right now, but it doesn't look like a deal of a life too. I would rather put it into SP500 or some other ETF at this moment

Note that Im a retard and a noob at fundamental analysis, I just like doing that since I discovered new software for it
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>>59577095
>I just like doing that since I discovered new software for it
What software is it?
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>>59577106
scrab
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>>59577059
RKLB
AVGO
LUNR
descending rank of pumpability

>ARK lol
XT is whatever, don't believe in ETF's for sectors aside from maybe SOXL
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>>59576804
anon, can you suggest me some other parameters and how to interpret them?
what do you think about this analysis?
>>59577095
?
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>>59577095
you left out the most important estimate:
what is the "intrinsic" value of one share?
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>>59576979
I am short every single one of these brotha man
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>all my indexes are way down
>all my individual stocks are up
>slightly positive for the day
uhhh, ok?
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>>59577135
Book Value of Quity per Share?
I guess it goes to the pricing sector, right?
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>>59577124
>anon, can you suggest me some other parameters and how to interpret them?
bonds.
you need to select some kind of risk-free alternative in order to determine whether it's a good idea to park your money in the security you're assessing.
most of what you're looking at is good to look at, but you must always have clear in your head what you're comparing it to: quick ratios are different from industry to industry for example, as is debt-to-equity. Book value must similarly be adjusted carefully.
When considering growth, it's important to estimate it on a 10y, 5y, 2y, and quarterly timescale. After all, it's an estimate.
Ev-to-EBITDA is only of utility to compare against PE ratio, and even then you need to look at the HISTORY of how these ratios have changed over the past 2-5 years. EV-to-Ebitda tells you how we-don't-fuck-around creditors view the company, whereas PE ratio tells you how the traders may be viewing the company. You're looking for divergence, and you can only tell that is happening by looking at the trend of each on its own.
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>>59577147
>Book Value of Quity per Share?
no, "intrinsic value" is highly personal, but supremely important and must be founded on solid logic. Many people say that it is equal to BVPS, but this is totally not true (or helpful), its just a lazy shortcut. "intrinsic value" is more easily approached like this: if you were to become the earnest business owner of this business, what would be a fair price for you to pay for it? That's ultimately what you need to know in order to assess if it's in a bubble or not, or whether you should buy stock in it at this-or-that price. It's also how institutions who are interested in long-term holding do it: they are quite literally partners in the business. This is why earnings (and realistic expectations of their growth/reliability) are so important: it's the only reason to own a business if it generates more money than you put into it, and at a rate which is better than competition.
You can get a quick idea also of how the business has treated its owners by looking at how the Paid-In Capital Surplus has changed over the years as well, and also by comparing those changes to the changes in equity per share.
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>>59577155
>>59577174
Thank you very much anon
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>>59577124
>what do you think about this analysis?
if you're analyzing stocks by looking at their SEC-filed 10Ks and 10Qs (as well as Form 4's and 13F), then I think it's absolutely fantastic. The whole point of the SEC is to make it so that companies can't utterly deceive the public by necessitating that they file these reports, and it's really the only way we can do our due diligence in sorting the bullshit capitalists from the...arguably beneficial to the human race ones. And hopefully pay ourselves for the time we spend doing it through trading.
If you're just pulling these ratios from various internet sources beware: every company files its own kind of 10K: some are extremely idiosyncratic by comparison, and others will clearly show some creative accounting during this or that year. The sites which present fundamental stats to you often present them incorrectly. The only way you can guard against this is by viewing the reports yourself. So yeah, kudos to you, the more people look at these things the less bullshit there is in the world!
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>>59576049
Stay on topic.

You have made the claim that QCs will become viable by cooling them to “Greenland” temps i.e. a residential freezer.
This claim is false.
You moved the goalposts claiming that Greenland would “reduce the cost of refrigeration” imply cost of refrigeration is the limiting factor in QCs.
This claim is false.
You have claimed QCs break btc.
This claim is false.
Now you win to move the goalposts to…nvda? And claim they “sell to bitcoin miners”
This claim is false.
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>>59577199
I just used scrab to be honest, can you tell me more about what SEC , 4s and 14F are and where to find them?
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>>59575840
I think TSM is a safe bet for this year, they keep crushing it and like you said before they make the fabs so even if MAG7 branch out and start making their own chips because NVDA can’t keep up with demand it will increase. Only threat (which is increasingly becoming more realistic) is geopolitical pressures on Taiwan and further posturing. Russia, Israeli conflicts and then further more in China would bode terribly for the world economy and Trump doesn’t want that so hopefully he an Xi can work that shit out -

HSINCHU, Taiwan, R.O.C. – Jan. 10, 2025 - TSMC (TWSE: 2330, NYSE: TSM) today announced its net revenue for December 2024: On a consolidated basis, revenue for December 2024 was approximately NT$278.16 billion, an increase of 0.8 percent from November 2024 and an increase of 57.8 percent from December 2023. Revenue for January through December 2024 totaled NT$2,894.31 billion, an increase of 33.9 percent compared to the same period in 2023.


>>59576204
Long volatility, gold, oil
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>>59577199
Here is where Scrab get its data from, what do you think?
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>>59577240
>I posted uncropped again
man I am a retard.
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>>59577227
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings
type in the company ticker
you will be able to view every 10K and 10Q they've filed for i don't know how far back in the past. Each 10k will (fairly) clearly explain what the business does, and show "their" preferred balance sheet, income statement, and cash flow statement at the very least. Form 4 is what insiders and large "private" owners have to file when they purchase or sell large lots of that company's shares (like in the hundreds of millions) and 13Fs are like that but for hedge funds and institutions. These show you what the whales have been doing up to the most recent quarter. For instance, that's how you can see that the big money has been selling nvda quite a lot since it crossed above 100->110: if big money believed it was worth holding it they wouldn't be selling it.
>>59577221
>You have made the claim that QCs will become viable by cooling them to “Greenland” temps
no i didn't, that is stupid and nonsensical. I said greenland is an attractive prospect because it reduces the cost of keeping QC cool: any developments that will be made in QC will benefit from being located in greenland. This is simple and obvious. I never mentioned any "limiting factor"
>You have claimed QCs break btc
yes, a QC of a little over 1000 qbits can indeed crack a crypto wallet if given enough time, which is why it becomes important to keep it at a low enough temperature and noise-isolated for long enough. It is unrealistic to expect a QC that can crack any given wallet before you can boil an egg, but that's not the point: the point is for a nationstate to demonstrate it can be done, period. THat way, no one's wallet is technically "safe" if they become a high-enough profile target, and with that realization bitcoin's user base will lose a lot of faith.
>claim they “sell to bitcoin miners”
they totally do. They're being sued for it actually. look at the latest supreme court ruling about them. relax
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>>59577059
>do you see it pumping again
did you miss the car integration? do you realize every college student is going to be ordering food on the way back from their classes without touching their phone which reduces distractions and would probably make for the car having the highest safety rating/low accidents and parents would be willing to pay for it. Voice AI is going to reduce car accidents, SOUN went down because of people dumping to FOMO into cerence thats my hunch atleast. Cerence is only for nvidia automotive, soundhound is still a key part of nvidias way forward, edge AI alone will keep them going https://www.soundhound.com/voice-ai-blog/how-new-edge-voice-ai-technology-humanizes-smart-devices/. and $SOUN typically follows nvidias chart but its at a lower PE, im not paying for nvidia at these prices.

>>59577237
I like $WES, also $BP is comfy because of its coffee part, https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/28/business/coffee-prices-climate-change.html Coffee price nearing 50 year all time highs
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>>59577240
i need to see the official submitted reports with my own two eyeballs. One reason is because you are looking for accounting artifices, and detecting those is very case-by-case. Also, different companies will count things differently: I'm guessing that Scrab uses some kind of automation for its data preparation, and I've done that myself and there are just too many holes to account for you might as well just look at the sources directly because you'll never know when it's going to get it wrong. I can say that i have frequently enough found Yahoo Finance's statistics to be significantly inaccurate concerning enough businesses compared to deriving key measurements directly from the statements. So Scrab might be useful for screening, but I would have to always review the source material myself before greenlighting a trade.
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>>59577237
>>59575840
Micron is my pick for trading on the expectation that Samsung Device Solutions will shit the bed like last year and demand for HBM3 will stay high.
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>le yield curves
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>>59577286
So what's a good place to educate oneself more systematically with fundamental analysis?
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>>59577352
Read "Why Stocks Go Up and Down" by Pike. It's the simplest and clearest explanation of how to see the reality of the stock market, that is, how stocks are actually connected to human economic activity. Only after you can see what is real can you begin to see what is clearly over or undervalued at the time, and then choose what to do with that understanding, theres a lot of different trading strats you can try, and everyone develops their own, but a firm grasp of reality will keep you from losing your shirt amidst the almost incessant hype of the market.
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>>59576990
Investing in quantum now isn’t betting on a technology like usual, it’s betting on the future fear and paranoia of corporate executives, which is an almost certainty. As long as the meme that quantum computers pose an existential threat to their data security and therefore their bottom line, they will shovel money at the problem. There will probably be more frequent larger spikes of paranoia as the real technology approaches fruition in the next decade.
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>>59577199
Good post anon. I will also add you can take the 10Ks, 10Qs, Form 4s, etc. and upload them into ChatGPT and do the analysis for you. Be sure to audit the information its giving you from time to time because it's not perfect, but it's a good intro for someone who doesn't have much experience with it.

While you're analyzing the forms, you can ask it questions about what red flags to watch out for, how to watch out for "creative accounting" (AKA how to lie with statistics) and other concepts.

I would also encourage anyone doing DD to dig into the founders and executive team on the corporate websites and their backgrounds. Do some research and look into what else they've built. Sometimes you'll find people who did literal pump and dumps.

Ideally you want a boring CEO who's been in the industry like 20 years but has made money, a CTO who isn't fucking nuts (or at least can reign in their schizo tech-bro tendencies), a responsible CFO, etc.
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What are some investment for /lordofwarmaxxin/? I'm mean defence companies, weapon manufacture, military vehicles, either some promising looking stuff or just places to sit my money on
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Lost almost $600 by selling red, couldn't help it, it's been dropping since that fed went and said shit is fuck up., if I had sold yesterday i would have lost only $500.
I should have sold when it was just a $150 lost.
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>>59576622
The 5090 is clearly a sanctions buster card, and a political timebomb.
It will be bought up by the Chinese to use in AI server farmers.
This will eventually be found out by Washington.
I would float a question to trump about what he’s going to do to santion dodging companies and use that to calculate if leather jacket man is going to jail or not.
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>>59577537
The Ukraine war is slow going and Trump is probably going to bring it to some compromise, if not pull out funding entirely. China is in no position currently to “protect their territorial integrity” with anything but words. At best, Israel is going to blow up a few Iranian villages, but they probably have enough jets and bombs to do that already. Even if I did you would probably lose money.
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>>59577574
Seems that I got into the game too late
Maybe some european stuff? Many countries are rumping up defence investments and will probably continue even after then war ends
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What the fuck happened today, I was waging all day and had no time to check anything and I'm down 2k CAD today alone. VFV/VOO dumped and so did U Unity stocks.
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>>59577633
There's a fire in one of the rich parts of the US
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>>59577633
>Unity

You fell for the Keith Gill meme didn’t you?
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It’s either going below 3 or back to 7, need some Green Days but the good times could be all over if nothing changes in

>2 more weeks
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>>59577627
Swedish military is gearing up for at least 10 years, other countries are also doing it

Stock of ammunition, ballistics, weapons, weapon systems need to be replenished after gifting it all to Ukraine
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Hello! Just here to remind (You) that your circumstances are a result of your choices, have a nice weekend!
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Earnings around the same time as NVDA and beat its performance last year. Bank earnings next week followed up by big tech at the end of the month are gonna make or break the direction of the market
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>>59576075
>sean michaels
what a chad, i will never be as sexy as him
>well timed exit
nicely done, i'm still about 800k in stocks, mostly S&P500, got about 30k cash, just sold 225k of mutual funds to convert to BND for 4.5% yield and potential buying liquidity on the cheap stocks if there is a post 2008 like crash and then a run-up
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>>59575605
Was looking into it. Approaching with caution
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>>59575841
>Bitcoin is already quantum proof. P2PKH dumbfuck

Not unseizable tho. Always remember that btc can be as secured as you want, but the main exchanges follow guidelines of their country and can essentially freeze your acct if they find you doing anything questionable.

They've done this forever. All coins on crypto exchanges have to follow rules to be listed.

Anyway i hold monero
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I just want a crash so I can buy soxl or tqqq for cheap then get a 4x over the next year so I can recoup my losses and don't have to kill myself
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>>59575314
-3%
-1%
+1%
-1.5%
-1.5%
I fucking hate these kikes ruining the spy fucking niggers
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>>59577806
Based. One day I'll get to your portfolio size. $200k liquid is all I have right now, but besides that we have a very similar strategy.

I also have a dilemma where I want to buy a house but I don't want to sacrifice all that capital for a down payment.
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>>59578029
nice stack, you're on our way, stay the course and make good long term decisions, i'm almost 40, been saving every penny and investing since i started working at CVS for $8.50/hr in 2004, gambled a few times on alt coins and options and lost money, hurt too much to lose in a day what took decades to accumulate with patient investing
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>>59575314
How likely are we to get no rate cuts and even perhaps a rate hike this year!?
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>>59577013
>Buy SOUN at 14.30
>miss the top
>sell at 14.35
Well that was fun
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>>59578029
>I also have a dilemma where I want to buy a house but I don't want to sacrifice all that capital for a down payment.
NTA but same, I'm sorta leaning toward renting indefinitely though desu. Property upkeep is a huge pain in the ass.
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update for the blimp bros (AISP):
>IR says news *should* be out next week
>recent filings suggest company expects a stock price of at least $9
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>>59578158
i almost bought a condo and a house on two separate occasions since 2020, i say almost because i had a pre-qualified mortgage, shopped and negotiated with different banks, saw dozens of properties etc... and in the end i realized that i increase my net worth faster by renting and investing, i don't have kids, i think having a family is the one factor that could change my mind because i want my kids to have that experience of having a stable "family home" with plenty of space, but even then they would move out at 18
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>>59578158
>>59578222
These are exactly my thoughts. The only thing that makes me legit want to KMS is looking through historical data on Zillow and seeing housing prices pre-2021. Seeing homes that I really loved for 50% of the price from what they are now and with 2% interest rates is suicide fuel.

Home prices now are fucking ridiculous. Interest rates don't help. And I consider myself financially well off for my age. I can't even imagine how the bottom 50% of the country doesn't see whats happening and put a bullet in their mouth.
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>>59578333
nice trips, yeah single family home prices are outrageous, fucking blackrock is buying those too, pretty soon the whole world will be owned in one giant blackrock private equity fund, even townhouses and condos are way overpriced, just compare to how much the equivalent rents for

the smart thing to do is to keep cost of living low and live in a smaller place unless you have some crazy niche hobby or have a family
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>>59577537
Raytheon
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>>59578333
>Home prices now are fucking ridiculous
It can’t get much worse, right? I know this sounds naive, but there has to be buyers to sustain the price. Mortgages are completely unaffordable for most right now.
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>>59578072
It isnt too late thats a bit retarded desu, hold to 2030.
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>>59578423
we're fucked, the only strategy is to just to make money faster than the housing cost growth
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>>59578185
(((Should))).. th-thanks
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>>59577003
https://stocktwits.com/symbol/MVIS
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>>59578440
we got this
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>>59577286
>no I didn’t
Why lie when all can see the truth?
>>59573634
>they're having problems with maintaining coherency and fighting noise between qubits past a certain number, but that might be solved in two different ways 1) quantum computers located in extremely cold climates (hello greenland) 2) [QCs in space]
Explicit claim that QC’s limits could solve via “locat[ing] them in extremely cold climates” (temperatures significantly higher than are already required for QCs, it should be noted). When called out for your retardation you then claimed you only meant cold climate locations would reduce operational costs, this claim is no where to be found in your post, as can be seen, and is irrelevant to the discussion as cost is not the limiting factor for QCs.

>yeah QC breaks crypto.
>no one's wallet is technically "safe"
Another false claim. P2PKH is quantum-proof (as long as you follow SOP)

> they totally do. They're being sued for it actually. look at the latest supreme court ruling about them.
You claimed they “sell to bitcoin miners”, present tense, this suit involves PAST sales to SHITCOIN miners, not bitcoin miners. Another false claim.

>relax
No. You are a dishonest and disreputable person and no quarter shall be given.
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>>59577875
Why do you niggers always want tqqq so bad?
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>>59577857
>Not unseizable tho.
Literally unseizable.
>but da exchanges!
Skill issue. There are no technical solutions to “I gave my property to someone else”
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>>59578417
>but there has to be buyers to sustain the price.
Not really, you only get declining prices when sellers chase buyers, sellers can simply hold supply off market, which is what we’ve been seeing, without motivated sellers you won’t see significant price declines
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all in LPSN never felt better
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>>59578657
>Literally unseizable.

Lmao
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Buy Wendy's

Thank me later
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>>59578774
Skill issue. As I said, there are no technical solutions to “I gave my property to someone else”
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>>59578718
what makes you think it's going any higher
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>>59578936
Lmao2
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>>59578995
>arguments: none
I accept your admission of defeat.
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>>59579017
Lmaox3
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>>59575336
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>>59575450
Any New Investors in gorilla technology group (GRRR), where are all my NI GRRRs at?
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Burry's fund is invested heavily in BABA. I do hold some shares aswell, but I'm down 60% from my initial investment after the CCP had Jack Ma 'disappear', and the stock has still not recovered from there. I guess that event has had a lasting effect on investors' confidence. Still Burry seems to think that it's a buy. What do you guys think?
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>>59578529
>Explicit claim
YOU are claiming I said "will", whereas I said (in your lovely little copy quote of me) that problems in QC MIGHT be solved by conducting research in Greeland. They MIGHT be solved in other places too. If the latest problems are solved in ANTARCTICA, then I guess they weren't solved in Greenland after all, which is why I said MIGHT. Don Quixote much?
>(temperatures significantly higher)
This sounds like something a "schizo retard autist" would say...do you think QC should be done OUTSIDE in Greenland?
>cold climates reduce operational costs
This is obvious from the absolute very start to anyone who knows the business, apparently it wasn't to you. This now makes sense now given your clear cognitive challenges. Cost is indeed a limiting factor to being able to conduct research, and QC is an ongoing area of research where problems are CONSTANTLY BEING SOLVED. So yes, in terms of QC startups bearing fruit sooner and cheaper than later and more expensively, it would be good to locate them in greenland (as well as putting traditional data centers anyways because greenland reduces cooling costs).
>QC breaks crypto
It does. Get over it. You just don't understand quantum mechanics. It's okay: lots of people struggle with it, no one's gonna hurt you just because you don't know how all the cutting-edge tech works. If you are indeed autistic or something you may simply not be able to grasp the superposition concept at all, in which case, sorry? Jensen doesn't even get it.
>They sell to bitcoin miners
The DID. They CONTINUE TO.
>relax
Yeah. Relax if you can. Jesus man you sound strung out. Mebe you have crypto? You know, that's going to get utterly wrecked by QC and government regulation right? You should probably get out while the getting's good, or better yet short it if you want to make money on the way down.
>>59578894
>Buy Wendy's
this is an interesting idea, will look into them, but the chart looks like it could fall further.
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>>59579364
>Burry's fund
burry's fund was also early to the party with CXW and GEO. He's not to be followed blindly, but he does have some good tips sometimes and boy did that one pay off. Doubling my money felt nice. I don't know what the hell he saw/sees in QRTEA, but he's gone in and out of QRTEA positions for looks like a decade. That stock is dogshit.
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>>59579381
>burry's fund was also early to the party with CXW and GEO.
Yeah he seems to be early quite often. I mean I do agree with the general shift towards China, simply because a) they do not suffer from political correctness and subsequent ESG investment practices and b) the Chinese are actually becoming not only visible but fairly dominant in a number of innovative fields now (think BYD in EVs or DJI and Yuneec in consumer drones). This leads me to believe we are seeing something akin to the Made in Germany phenomena in the industrial revolution with China. Yet still, I'm not sold on Chinese tech stocks.
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>>59579393
>Yet still, I'm not sold on Chinese tech stocks.
I totally get the feeling. I've read some chinese papers on using quantum entanglement for communications and...they have some theoretical problems that make it seem like they're just trying to gain funding and using buzzwords (similar to medical papers i read coming out of MENA countries by the way, its strange). That, coupled with CCP lying like all the time and technically all business IN china being owned by the CCP...i would feel a whole lot better investing in anything chinese after they enter a "post-communism" phase haha
but yeah their EVs look good; cheap and poor but probably profitable
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>>59575314
Invest in Rockhopper Exploration
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>>59579552
>buy my bags!!!!
"no"
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>>59578894
>Wendy's (WEN)

>Growth in last 5y
good not great with upwards tendency since March 2023 (20=50%)
>Margin
good (17%)
>Estimated growth
Meh (3-9%)
>Fundamentals
Bad (73% Debt to assets, Ohlson 14%, CFo to Debt 0.08%)
>Pricing
cheap
>Upside
Good (31% with 5y median at 14.41%)
>Book Value Per Share
1.51 and diving since March 2023

Rather risky investment, but might beat the benchmark (SP500) if the stars align

I would stay away
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>>59579662
>20=50%
I meant 20-50%
>>59579376
Intel looks way better to me
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>>59579666
>Intel looks way better to me
yah. Nvidia just released a statement calling Biden stupid and saying Trump shouldn't sanction them because it would jeopardize American national security. That's a threat: there is no way in hell Trump is going to spare them from any sanctions because it'll look like they told him to do it.
It's the same with TSM mouthing off about how Intel didn't do the right things. TSM has fabs, I geddit, but it's an extremely bad PR strategy for the Taiwanese to posture like this considering the only reason they're not CCP is because of America. Intel basically wrote the book on semiconductor manufacturing: for TSM to criticize their decisions like this is equivalent to Taiwan telling Americans how run their military recruitment drives, even if there were some recent missteps with General Zie/Zer/Zim: you're being protected by the thing you're trying to say you're above, so stfu.
I don't think china will invade taiwan, but there is no way that the trump administration is going to spare nvda and tsm some hurt.
optics, i'm just waiting for the right catalyst with intel
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>>59576420
yeah but if you sold sooner you could be up much more
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Does anyone here watch Mia Lee’s weekly finance talks? Some of them are pretty good.
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>>59577857
well thats why you don't hold anything in them for a long time as you never know who hacks the site while you are sleeping
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>>59579841
I watch Martin Shkreli livestream. He gave me SAVA, NMRA and now Quantum shorts, not to mention his financial advice and Wall Street insights such as buying calls as a hedge when you are short for volatile stocks in the case for quantum
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I've been trying some day trading. I'll look for the top gainers early in the day and try to buy in as it's going up. Had some luck yesterday buying DATS at $5.45 yesterday then it ran up to over $8. But I got scared when it dipped a bit and sold at like $6. Does anyone else do this?
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>>59579936
i recommend the wheel strategy for more consistent and safe returns, do a few days of paper trades then start with 100 shares of a cheap stock
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>>59579936
heh yeah its not easy to watch the daily dump and worry if the recovery will come
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>>59578718
Same bro. It's the comfiest suicide stack ever
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>>59579841
smells like an ad
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>>59580172
I was going to disagree until 1PBTID. I'm watching anyway. I'm only on video 13, so far, I haven't learned anything new. And I'm not a sex worker, so a lot doesn't apply to me.
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>>59579841
I'm absolutely convinced I have seen this name in one of those youtube scam comment chains.
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>>59579841
There's nothing there worth watching. The information is all solid, but there's better places to get that information.
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>>59580184
>And I'm not a sex worker, so a lot doesn't apply to me.

kek
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>>59576588
more Space stocks?
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>>59575314
Do you predict the CPI report to come in hot? The market already expects the numbers to be quite big.
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>>59579376
Stop digging your grave you only make the hole deeper.
>i s-said m-m-might!
Cryogenics are cheap, no, in no way (other than magical thinking) would conducting research in Greenland/Antarctic clear the hurdles QC faces
>cost always matters
Yes, however, the cost REFRIGERATION is NOT a limiting factor in QC, neither research nor production, you fucking retard.
>QCs break bitcoin.
Bold faced lie as I already pointed out, P2PKH is quantum-proof as long as you follow SOP.
>nvda
Off topic and irrelevant to the discussion of quantum computing
>you don’t understand QM
Better than you, as your ‘understanding’ (I use the term as loosely as I can) seems to amount to “it’s magic”. Further, IRRELEVANT to the discussion of the threat of QCs on btc.
>you hold crypto
No, I hold bitcoin, as all intelligent, positive sum actors should. I also have a 6fig brokerage account and unencumbered real estate (thank you satoshi!)
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>>59581112
Wage growth fell more than expected, keeping wagies in the cagies is all the Fed really cares about, I’d expect cpi to continue to moderate in the areas that matter to Jay
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>>59579841
Unlistenable voice
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>>59581442
>baseless ad hominems
>No, I hold bitcoin, as all intelligent, positive sum actors should. I also have a 6fig brokerage account and unencumbered real estate (thank you satoshi!)
That's great. Big surprise.
QC and govt is going to demolish cryptocurrencies, both you and Jenhsun Huang have no understanding of quantum mechanics (oh and he is going to get crushed for his statements on both US sanction implementation and QC startups, with MSFT being the first to start cancelling their orders with him, causing his revenue to vanish and a lovely plunge at end of Februrary), and you should probably take profit on whatever crypto gains you have while you can, cause like it or not nvidia and btc are tied up together. It's not about what you think (or think you know), it's about what the public does, and what the MM decide to do about it.
Best of luck dealing with whatever denial you may have of the changing situation. It must suck for you to have these strong feelings of inferiority and insecurity, but that's probably what attracted you to cryptocurrency in the first place. You're actually a great psychological example of why bitcoin's gonna sell off so fast this summer (inb4 "two more weeks"). Unless you can say something intelligent or interesting we're done talking here. Give everyone another pathetic reply to read if you want to be a good sport about it.
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>>59580553

I like Lunr in particular with their mission coming up this month, but I'm pretty bullish long term for them in general. They're the only successful player in successful player in Lunar landers at the moment. Nasa anon also mentioned they may have a big announcement in the next couple of months that could send it soaring.

The other popular options recently have been RKLB and ASTS. I've read a couple DDs that made ASTS sound particularly promising, basically they do satellite mobile networks better than Starlink does (though the two techs aren't really competing if you care enough to do some research).

The problem with a lot of these stocks is that they've run up so much recently, but given it's such a new industry with a lot of money flowing into it the valuations aren't that crazy. The tech isn't just vaporware unlike memes like Quantum. According to Nasa Anon they're expecting 400+ moon missions in the next decade and a lot of what they are working on is related to permanent habitation. If you're patient it seems like a no brainer investment long term.
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>>59575314
where can u look up a live stock price, even on a weekend?
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>>59581715
Call the CFO
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>>59581542
this is you and everybody else in this thread
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>>59581736
go shill your bullshit somewhere else
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>>59581579
Thanks anon
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Explain why TLT at these prices is not a good buy.


This long yield is inexplicable. The FED has already cut 100bp and the Yield has risen almost 100bp. Inflation is under control, the price of oil is not so high. The market may be heated, but not that much.
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If a company is using AI in their marketing videos I just can't take them too seriously, it just looks awkward and cheap.
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>>59582190
Inflation is not near their target, so under control is a bit of an overstatement.
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>>59581542
You’re dug deep enough mon petit crétin, your stupidity bores me, time to die. If you were a man of honor you would have killed yourself already (or at the very least admitted defeat), but as you are as honorless as you are dull I shall have to administer the killing blown myself.

The proof of quantum-proofness has always been short enough to include in a post, I’ve merely been toying with you for my own amusement. Were you to possess an IQ above ambient temperature it would be obvious. Can you now, seconds from your own demise work it out? Of course you can’t, you fucking retard.

P2PKH is not a public-key, it is a hash of a public-key.
Cryptographic hashes are lossy (that is: they loose information)
There is not one sequence that will hash to a given hash, but an INFINITE number of sequences
A QC capable of finding hash collisions will return AN answer (1/∞ of possible sequences for a given hash)
But are we looking for AN answer? No. We are looking for the needle in the infinite haystack that is a valid public-key that hashes to that hash
QRD
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>>59582266
Dictated but not read.

s/loose/lose/
s/QRD/QED/
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>>59575644
bloomberg
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>>59579903
>buying calls as a hedge when you are short for volatile stocks in the ca
me too
made so much money it's hard to keep waging
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So Home Depot and Lowes HAS to be the play with california burned to the ground right?
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>>59582408
only DIYers and new contractors go there
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>>59582413
We there will be alot with 250k people not having homes anymore
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>>59582241
But its not so much far from it, isn't the bond market reaction an overreaction? what the fuck is the target price for 10y yields?
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>>59582568
the 10yr-2yr spread has only just flipped back from inversion to positive in the last few months and sits at about 40bps which is on the low end of history going back to the end of the 80s

the 2yr is pretty reflective of market's expectation of fed policy rate over the near term and is on par with where fed funds rate is today, implying not much more in the way of cuts in the near term

if the 2yr is priced correctly than the 10yr should likely be higher based a normal yield curve where you're compensated for both the time & inflation risk that comes with lending for a longer duration, especially if inflation is percieved to be higher and/or more volatile in the years ahead

big question is which yield is wrong - is the 10yr too low? or is the 2yr/fed funds too high?

trump winning, market pricing in inflationary policy (tarrifs) plus the other unhinged shit he's saying recently is not helping the market
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So how long do I gotta hold this PTN? 1 year? 3 years? News says the target is $17 by EOY but I don't think they'll achieve it
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>>59582610
Mon petit crétin, did you really think an id-change would mask your stupidity which shines through like a supernova? What a fantastic display of your vile dishonesty, disreputably, and honorlessness, however! Having been destroyed so utterly in debate did you TRULY think you would escape this shame and humiliation by resetting your router or phone-posting? No, no, no! I think not, mon petit crétin.

This >>59582266 shall harry you for all time, my friend.
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are my SPY $604 calls for 1/31 fucked? i DCA'd down on them. but wondering what you all think will happen on the runup to inauguration and post inauguration.
Will we see one more top before the market shits itself? Also, will the market shit itself?
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What do you guys think of NIO?
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>>59582932
touch grass faggot i'm not who you were arguing with but you sound retarded
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where did all the AISP sisters go
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>>59583064
Another lie. Pathetic. Your verbose dullposting is quite distinct, We have 24 (21 under 5loRF9d1, 3 under 2G7Qejjn) linguistic samples ITT alone, another 30 (Jesus you’re a blowhard) under Da4Unmyf in the last /smg/. Notice I didn’t post ITT until you posted, trivially IDing you from your first 2 posts.

Here: >>59575840 we can see one of your prototypical dullposts, e.g. All oldfags will instantly recognize that you: >>59582610 are the same poster.

Are you a tourist? You must be. Do you actually think chantards need IDs to identify each other? I was born in anonymity. molded by it. I didn't see IDs until I was already a man, by then they were nothing to me but blinding!
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>>59583196
Holding, tempted to buy more on Monday
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>>59575314
Invest in Rockhopper exploration
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>>59582610
>trump winning, market pricing in inflationary policy (tarrifs) plus the other unhinged shit he's saying recently is not helping the market
can we also throw in there that china and europe have not not been buying bonds anymore? And the fed stopping doing YCC?
"Weekend At Bernie's" isn't just a metaphor for Biden's cognitive impairments : it's a metaphor for the entire market. It's just being allowed to fall now, PPT is stepping aside.

There's a side bet going as to whether the big boys will start dumping their crypto in order to tank crypto prices: it would not only provide a good scapegoat for Trump to reorient the public on ("it's not me, it's those unamerican bitcoin leftists!"), but it would also be helpful to shrinking M2, which his boomer retiree base desperately needs.

It's going to be a fun fun inauguration

BITI, SQQQ, FAZ, TECS

then it's about scooping up some sweet sweet deals sometime this coming winter/next spring. What's about to hit fits more closely the idea of there being a "Great Reset".

>>59583460
>I was born in anonymity.
we know who you are you wannabe faggot :)
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>>59583712
>FAZ
Is this only going to take off if the market takes a MASSIVE shit? Or are you going to do small momentum plays with it?
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>>59583779
>FAZ
Sorry, let me put this in the right order switching attention from each to the next over time:
BITI, TECS, SQQQ, FAZ
Pyramid your positions, but those should all double in value for you if add carefully in the direction of your trade. In general, get in now, and start selling 1 or 2 quarters after the recession has been officially declared, your call there with how long you want to let it run.
Watch the VIX and enter a position in UVXY for when the first big drop hits, that's the one to ride the waves with.
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>>59582266
Anyone who says "merely" instead of "just" is an iredeemable faggot
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>>59582190
always trust the bond market. If you're asking, are bonds wrong? No they're not wrong. Equities are wrong.
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>Tadawul is open Sunday-Thursday for trading
https://www.saudiexchange.sa/wps/portal/saudiexchange/ourmarkets/main-market-watch?locale=en

Why is nobody talking about this, presumably there's a massive gap in effective price discovery with one low-volume exchange open. Is /smg/ suddenly too good to gamble on a Sunday?
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>>59582408
No but it's a defensive good play for the recession imo. Lots of people doing home upgrades on reduced hours while unable to hire a professional, solid management history, stable books and regular clientele.
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Why does my son like the weird part of YouTube?
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>>59583949
And why is the bond market right but the stock market wrong?
And what does it even mean? if there is no demand for bonds, then where is the money going if not to stocks or bitcoin?
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>>59582093
>>59583712
Why would greatresetfags be right this time after being wrong every time?
cope desu
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>>59584702
>cope desu
what are bitcoin's real assets? cryptofags get real quiet with that one usually, then just slide into ad hominems and claiming that all value is relative anyway and THIS time THEY'RE part of the group which declares arbitrarily what things are worth. Very gay. Explain the realistic utility of bitcoin and how it is not a total parasite of civilized infrastructure or fuck off.
BTC = welfare for people larping as high-iq
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>>59584673
The only thing that you need to know is that the bond market called 9/11. The stock market had no clue.
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>>59584673
>And why is the bond market right but the stock market wrong?
Because the bond market (US govt bonds) represents the entity which is regulating the entire stock market. So the canary in the coal mine is always reflected by people's evaluation of the US govt. That being the case, the interpretation of bond market activity is a matter of heated dispute, but yield inversions and uninversions are historically correlated with reduced economic activity AND there is extremely sound logic for why.
>>59584792
>The only thing that you need to know is that the bond market called 9/11
Sure, but it wasn't super specific, like "hey someone needs to keep that camelpiss-drinking-baczi-boy-fucker off that flight this morning". In all seriousness and curiousity, what's your interpretation of the bond market activity?
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>>59584820
I'm an idiot American (with a high savings rate) posting on a Moroccan ice cream making form. My understanding of the bond market is minimal, which is why I let Wellington pick my bonds for me. Also Boglehead.
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>>59584891
No worries! We all start somewhere. The more you know, the less likely you are to get fucked over by the people you've hired to take care of things for you. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and all that. Do they have camel milk and urine flavored Moroccan ice cream or is that just a medical thing?
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what happened SOUN bros
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>>59584820
>>59584891
i just piled reallocated 25% of my portfolio into BND for diversification, i can research more complex bond holdings but can't be bothered to, hoping there is a big crash in 2025, then i will sell my bonds and buy stocks again at lower cost
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>>59584959
Both wellington ($85,000) and my TDF ($315,000) will rebalance for me during the crash. I'm adding SCHD to my VTI,BLV,VB,VBR portfolio to tilt away from the MAG7. I will exit BLV in that portfolio when VTI drops >30% (assuming it happens in the next 5 years). I'm DCAing $1,500/month into that account my goal allocation, if I get there before a crash is:
70% VTI
20% SCHD
4% BLV
3% VB
3% VBR
I'm pondering if I should abandon small and small value.
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>59579841
>literal who(re) talks about "white privilege" and being discriminated against for being a gook whore
Ngl, I would pay 5 figures to beat the shit out of her. You got me to watch one of this cunt's videos for a few minutes, so well done anon. Your waifu is shit but you made me look.
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>>59585120
I watched several, and missed (or didn't GAF about) the white privilege stuff. She did talk about being debanked because of her line of work. Watching her shit was a waste of time for me too.
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>>59584564
You better stop that shit now before he develops brainrot.
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>>59584792
??? Can I get a quick rundown on this?
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>>59585038
i think you can safely keep the small and small valuei have about 3% in vanguard small cap value fund to have a slight tilt for small cap in the portfolio, was thinking about selling it but my recent research shows small cap value outperforming the total stock index coming out of a recession, to get the max benefit of this outperformance you need to be in small caps before the recessions starts, which could be right about now given where the treasury rate inversion is (recession starts 2-3 months after the inversion end and goes back to normal yield curve)
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>>59585665
Hey, thanks for the feedback Anon!
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>>59575840
>fair value for nvda still sits at $70, on the generous side,
you sound like a shortfag that thinks he knows what fair value for things are

the truth is, we are in the roaring 20's and nvda under 100 is tasty, so it will get frontrunned and not even get there, bearfags will remain sidelined just how they predicted nasdaq under 10k when covid hit and so on
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>>59585316
It's a joke, the bond yield inverted before the dot com bubble burst. But if you look historically you could (as I did) say they predicted the terrorist attack.
>>59585665
If we do get a deep pullback, you think that'd be a good time for me to rotate out of SCHD into VTI? It should fall less than VTI.
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>>59585802
>Roaring 20's
The only question is which year is going to eqate to '29?
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>>59584755
Bitcoin is the only unit of account with a decentralized immutable incorruptible ledger with 24/7 uptime that has ever existed and that will ever exist due the Schelling points involved within the game theory. The privilege to interact with this ledger is closer to $infinite than $0. The gap between understanding the fact and not is the opportunity cost of not being invested and why those that are not allocated will be polishing shoes for sats.
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>>59577155
>>59577174
>>59577199
Hi Shkreli
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>>59585814
generally yes, although the marginal delta between SCHD and VTI will be fairly small i think, either way, if you want to take advantage of the VTI deep during a pull back that sounds like a decent plan
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>>59585802
>what fair value for things are
give fair price and reasoning behind it for nvda or go fuck yourself millenial ladyboy
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>>59585849
shill harder you bagholding faggot nobody cares your dick dont workk
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>>59584702
Im not saying you wont earn money with bitcoin, Im saying you cant judge its value the same way you do with stocks
>hmmm this country is low on buckets
>guess the bucket producer might earn money

>hmmm this country needs CRYPTO for....????
crypto prices are purely speculative, even more than the works of art.
You could argue that paintings serve decorative function and therefore have some intristic value.
The intristic value of crypto is what? uniqe string? wow.
even videogames and movies serve as entertainment
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ARM looks kinda sexy
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>>59583712
Mon petit crétin, our dim little tourist. Your every utterance marking you as foreign. Metastasized plebbit cancer that can’t even recognize baneposting. Pathetic creature, without honor, integrity, or intelligence.

I return from sabbatical to my homeboard to find the door pried open, the furniture covered in human shit, garbage piled to the ceiling, and a grotesque subhuman halfman sleeping in my bed!

But I am feeling magnanimous today on our Lord Satoshi’s day of rest. Admit defeat, apologize for your stupidity, your dishonesty, your ignorance and superciliousness, prostrate yourself before me, grovel and rend your flesh and beg forgiveness for your insolence and you have my permission to die.

>>59583878
>’merely’ is lexiphanicism to him
That’s going in the cringe collection!
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>>59586393
The street made bitcoin, and the street's dumping. BITI
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>>59575314
Any real smart Anon know how to find the Nasdaq Index PE? Sp 500 is so easy but fuck Nasdaq company going public makes it near impossible to get the indexes number, all I can find is a forward PE number.
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>>59586473
Solved it

https://www.invesco.com/us/financial-products/etfs/product-detail?audienceType=Investor&productId=ETF-QQQ
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>>59584755
Holding abstract value in physical goods (land/gold) is perversion, crowding out functional use of these assets, holding abstract value in trust-based assets (bonds/equities) is perversion, enabling parasitism by the trusted third parties that operate these assets.

And do stay on topic: explain how QCs break btc (they don’t: >>59582266) or admit your defeat.
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>apply for jobs on indeed
>check my profile
>it has added like 500 skills and a master's degree without me asking
Why is this website so BAD
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>>59585823
2019. Dollars were still gold-backed in the 1920s, a deflationary crash was possible as there was only so much ‘real’ money in the system. When something blows up now the Fed just hits the brrrrrr button, this is (unfortunately) a perfectly viable strategy, money stock can continue to 2-3x every decade forever
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>>59586458
>arguments: none
Pathetic.
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>>59586686
If it continues to double+ every decade, my plan will work out perfect. I use 5% and 7% cagr to estimate my future balances.
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>>59586699
It will. The rate of expansion, over decade plus timescales, has been rather consistent since ‘71.
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LPSN bros... how we feeling
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>greenland buyout
>LA fires
>sunflare
how the fuck im supposed to time this market?
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>>59587410
>how the fuck im supposed to time this market?
https://youtu.be/vu2NK5REvWM
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-3% s&p under a week
yeah totally normal fuck you
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>>59587410
>sunflare

QRD?
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>>59586686
Kind of? Bernakes money printer is as you described, just like the returns from 2009-2019. JPow 4x bigger money printer was an inflationary failure that will never happen again. 2020-2015 returns are unsustainable.
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>>59587412
I was thinking about this last week for some reason. Wonder how he’s doing.
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i am so angry
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>>59578718
>>59580095
Post stack or stfu
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>>59587772
good work champ
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>>59587430
>Jay the Faggot
>failure
As a human being? Sure. As a ratfuck parasitic central banker? A hall of famer! Remember that monetary expansion is the mechanism behind oligarchal parasitism, as highly liquid assets will always inflate faster and more fully than illiquid assets like labor or housing, monetary expansion then is always-and-only a parasitic resource transfer from income earners to asset holders.

1980s-GFC monetary expansion was driven by falling rates, effectively a systemic credit kite, this kite blew up in 2007 and GFC-2019 monetary expansion was driven by QE. This scheme blew up when they tried to wind down QE and “renormalize” monetary expansion, and was replaced with bond yield as the motive force. Scamdemic was used to paper over the blow-up but also to intentionally drive up consumer prices (which is not inflation, inflation is expansion of money stock) to provide justification for long term high rates.

>unsustainable, the debt!
People conceptualize the national debt wrong, they think about it like personal or business debt where debt-based overspending must be balanced with future underspending or they’ll go bankrupt. However, there is no bankruptcy risk, the Fed has infinite dollars, debt-paid-with-debt is identical to straight printing in-the-limit, all that happens when the government runs a persistent deficit is…monetary expansion! Which is what they want and need to continue to parasite.
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>>59586655
>Holding abstract value in physical goods (land/gold) is perversion, crowding out functional use of these assets, holding abstract value in trust-based assets (bonds/equities) is perversion, enabling parasitism by the trusted third parties that operate these assets.
Bitcoin can only hold value as long as the physical infrastructure which supports it continues to exist. It is parasitic in nature, just like the swatch of the population which mines it (nonessential humans who are alive due to food surplus), just like you: none of your arguments have any foundation, they're just ad hominems and self-aggrandizement. It rests on you to prove that bitcoin is secure, seeing as how obvious it is that anyone who has the "correct" hash can access any given wallet. QC simply provides the "correct" hash by means which you do not understand, but it does.

QC breaks crypto. You have to be able to think extradimensionally in order to realize this, which you obviously are incapable of seeing as how you can't acknowledge bitcoin's complete dependence on the governments it claims to circumvent. Seeing as how Jenhsun Huang recently publicly demeaned QC in general, expect more and more of said companies to explain publicly not only how QC works so that even a troglodyte such as yourself may grasp it's significance, but how cryptocurrency is untrustworthy as a currency. The best you can hope for is for government to step in and repurpose crypto to become a parallel welfare (EBT style) for useless people larping as "intellectuals" such as yourself.
>a deflationary crash was possible as there was only so much ‘real’ money in the system
It's still possible, because the real asset that has already deflated (that the economy has been in denial of) is LABOR: currency/credits just follow that. Nvda may be extremely overvalued, but AI basically proves that a huge amount of people lack ACTUAL intelligent insight: such as yourself.
>the Fed has infinite dollars
It doesn't.
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>>59575314
I'd like your input on this: I plan to splurge on Intuitive Machines this week - is the price fair right now, or do you think that it will drop further and I should wait? I like the company and believe in growth over time, but it still isn't profitable, the market is pooping in its diaper over rate cuts and inflation and the stock already fell by around 20%. But still, their launch and announcements should in theory work positively for their stock price. Also important - do you think that there is a possibility that Trump will fuck them and other space stocks over after the inauguration for the sake of spacex?
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>the economy is too good so the line went down
clown world
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>>59579710
are you trying to tell me my intel bags may yet recover to $30 this decade
are you just trying to fuck with me
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>>59588486
>are you trying to tell me my intel bags may yet recover to $30 this decade
yes they'll recover. BVPS is around $25, and they have real assets, plus they are critical to US defense. $30+ by summer, look at the accumulation already happening now and the past couple months at <$20. CPUs beat GPUs in a recession.
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Quantum baggies how are we doing?
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>>59588271
No. He wants total dominance of space. Every American space stock will benefit.
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>>59576161
As if ki hasn't already revolutioniced market mechanics and future amnouncements of trump and musk will make the market live for another decade
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Everything is dumping
>t-thanks Trump
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>>59588543
were you guys really long quantum? I thought this was the smart general
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>>59588607
They are just loading up for his next steps bro
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>>59588662
fuck no don't long quantum. Don't long ANY tech at the moment if you want to be safe. QC is national security issue, the QC businesses are all...basically scams. The real development is conducted by the government.
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I think I gonna buy SMST at open
How stupid is this idea?
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>>59588670
Who are “they”?
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>>59575314
buy Rockhopper Exploration
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>everything is red
I think it's time to cash out
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>>59575314
>cpi data comes out as expected or below expectations
>trumps great reforms turn out to be a nothingburger
will we be back for at least a while bros or is the crash inevitable now?
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>>59588882
trump hasn't even been sworn in yet

>>59588877
>selling low
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>>59588882
the fact that trump is seriously talking about annexing neighbouring territories means he intends to turtle in the Americas, now why would the US ever give up its tremendous influence on the planet? Because the jig is up and they know it, if the AI revolution doesn't pan out USA is fucked and the whole market ponzi scheme will collapse
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>>59588877
Yea I think I’m going to sell meme stocks even though I’m down 10-20%. These can easily go down another 50%
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How much pull back are we looking for here? I don’t want to catch a falling knife but I also don’t want to be butthurt about having missed out on a sale when it all inevitably recovers and climbs higher than it was before or ever
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>>59579840
Yeah and if you sold sooner you would pay a higher tax bracket dumbass, read the millionare next door. https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/investments-and-taxes/guide-to-short-term-vs-long-term-capital-gains-taxes-brokerage-accounts-etc/L7KCu9etn
Gains you make from selling assets you’ve held for a year or less are called short-term capital gains, and they generally are taxed at the same rate as your ordinary income, anywhere from 10% to 37%.
Gains from the sale of assets you’ve held for longer than a year are known as long-term capital gains, and they are typically taxed at lower rates than short-term gains and ordinary income, from 0% to 20%, depending on your taxable income.
This isnt going to stop being a good company, Remember last year when everyone was fuding about PLTR being a meme stock then it proved itself as a company and rallied even higher? You are a sucker if you sold this off, Diamond hands, you could of sold for a gain yeah but within the time frame you got it you would of paid short term capital gains which is higher than long term. $SOUN to 30 within 6 months and Im mocking everyone who paperhanded.
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>>59589184
>Yeah and if you sold sooner you would pay a higher tax bracket dumbass
Another reason to be thankful for not being born a mutt
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>>59589191
its the same in various europe countries.
you better be up to date on your local tax laws, faggot.
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>>59589194
no you gaylord, only like 3 countries have any differentiation between long term and short term cap gains in europe
most of them have a flat tax rate
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>>59589194
>its the same in various europe countries.
duh, what do I give a shit?
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>>59589168
the move is to periodically dollar cost average. Honestly Im out of a job as of the moment but if i had one I would buy more when it goes lower and less when it goes higher.
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>>59589208
>europe
https://www.expat.hsbc.com/expat-explorer/expat-guides/germany/tax-in-germany./ you do realize its only 10% here while its 25% in germany?
https://curvo.eu/article/taxes-italian-investors#:~:text=on%20the%20whitelist.-,Active%20funds%20and%20SICAVs,Tax%20rate%3A%2026%25.
italy is 26%
Also its funny you call us mutts while europe has people like albanians, america has the strongest Anglo people out of the entire anglopshere besides maybe the 1m anglos in goa india. Im mostly slovak and english, all european. But yeah polish from poland are weak catholic faggots while the polish in america are the second season of the wire.
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>>59589238
what does this nonsequitur have to do with that I said you schizophrenic
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>>59589238
https://www.gov.uk/capital-gains-tax/rates england is 20-28% lmao. America is superior for long term capital gains. It may be better to pay 25% flat tax regardless of what you do if youre worth 5m, but most people here have a portfolio in 5 figure or 6 figure hell so America has preferable taxes.
All of america isnt atlanta/what you see on tik tok believe it or not. The american mormons are probably whiter than you. I am 6'9 with green eyes and got arrested for theft with intent to deprive someone of property/to cause emotional damage lately. Europeans are individualist, Im intending on having violent white kids with recalcitrance and strong family values.
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>>59589246
it's that toldya schizo
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>>59589246
You said you'd rather be in Europe than America calling American mutts. I'm saying the English in England are weak and they only talk shit about polacks because if they said something about pakis theyd be arrested. You implied europe is better because of the flat tax bracket and I am saying the American variable tax brackets are lower for 95% of people and 99% of the people that go on biz. America has the best english as of now
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>>59589266
yeah I just filtered him
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>>59589266
yeah one day I am pajeet, the next day I am skitzo, I dont give a fuck what you think about me god talks and I listen. I am a /x/ poster yeah, I dont care what you think of me I already face social ridicule on a few things and I stand with my chest puffed out. The best inventors were schizo; Isaac newton for example
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>>59589265
>Im intending on having violent white kids with recalcitrance and strong family values.
the only thing you'll be married to is your hand and your $3 worth SOUN stock lmao
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>>59589288
Hey anon, can you do me a favour and say "I spit on vishnu"
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I'm new to biz. Finished my emergency fund and now looking to dump my last couple paychecks into a few stocks, GOOGL S&P LUNR. Is it foolish to buy it right now, Should i wait till markets open and do it midweek instead?
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>>59589238
yeah and in some countries you have special accounts where there are no taxes before you withdraw from the account and you can also do that anytime. will be a pretty nice help in building it up
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it sure feels good to be an aisp baggie now
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I’m getting SOUNded and it fucking hurts
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>>59586659
>Be me
>Apply for jobs shitty entry level jobs in accounting on indeed
>Have a bachelor's degree in accounting
>Never get a response
Looks like I'll be a warehouse wagie instead of an office wagie for life
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>>59578185
Down -10 % in pre market. Is it time to get of the ride ?
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>>59589750
I applied for the warehouse, they pay 24 bucks, which is better than all those heckin data analyst (19/hr) and bookqueefer (18/hr) jobs that never call back anyway and want 10 years of experience in SQL or quickbooks to sort excel tables.

I am sure they will be happy with their pajeets.
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>>59589454
I spit on vishnu Im odinist, if anything I like kali for killing pakis but im not a poojeet that isnt my ethnic religion. I worship odin and his alternative russian name rod.
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>market dumps
>i'm up 0.22%

I'll regret putting that out when karma fucks me but anyway.
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>>59589560
Wow I am so jealous of you brits getting stabbed by migrants I thought you fought the second world war so you would never be ruled by a foreign people now look at your parlimemt lmao.but atleast you have high quality street food from the wholesome minorities.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Southport_stabbing
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>>59589502
Googles voice AI is retarded consider $SOUN
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>>59589826
>AI was supposed to be doing hard menial work
>Instead its going to do the intellectual tasks like programming and babysit mcdonalds wagies
this will never stop being funny
I will buy back into SOUN if it dips below 10
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>>59589870
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>everything is down premarket
>starts pumping the moment the market opens
Fucking KIKES
>>59578185
Buying more on this news. If you jew me anon I will kill you
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>>59589774
>>59589750
Warehouse jobs are kinda comfy if your bosses aren't breathing down your neck 24/7. I worked at a small Amazon warehouse and it was nice.

>As long as you met quotas, bosses didn't care what you did, could listen to music on earphones as long as you didn't have one in both ears, etc.
>Voluntary Time-Off
>It was a delivery warehouse so all of the annoying shit like packaging was already done, just had to sort them for delivery so work was easy
>Basically no heavy things to lift
>Amazon had a partnership with Lyft, so if you took a Lyft to work/back home, Amazon would cover the cost of it up to a certain amount and I lived close enough so commuting to work was basically free

It was nice. Unfortunately it was only 6 and a half hour shifts so the pay wasn't so great
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Fuck it. Sold my December 550 SPY LEAPS for $6,800 each. +47% on the trade but could've been more if I'd pulled the trigger right after Trump won. Could have held for another 6-8 months and hoped for more but the downside seems to outweigh the up. And nobody ever went broke by taking profits, right?
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>>59585991
cope
>>59585999
the value is undervalued
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down 10k from new years
my options got obliterated and my picks are bleeding
we were supposed to have more time
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>>59575361
Why not SOFI?
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>>59589976
Literally same. I just cut the losses that weren't worthless and loaded up on Quantum puts for the short term.

Still holding my LPSN/ACHR/AISP calls but they're dated for Feb/Apr so it's a mix of sunk cost fallacy and actually believing that they will recover. I did sell my LUNR leaps to fund the puts but I'll buy back in once this market calms down.
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just waiting for MSTX to bottom to swing trade again
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>>59576804
>below 19 for a second
It's below 19 now...
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>>59590134
im not selling yet, im hoping daddy trump's barmitzvah the 20th will rally - at least enough to provide a good selling point
every time ive sold for shit like this ive ended up regretting it
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>>59588098
No, no, no! Mon petit crétin, an ad hom is a SUBSTITUTION of an argument for an attack on the man, I am destroying you effortlessly through rigorous and impeccable rhetoric, as can be seen here: >>59582266, a rhetorical brutalization so complete you changed IDs in a futile attempt to escape the humiliation, and then LIED about it when caught (>>59582610) like the sniveling coward that you are, AND I am insulting you for your BLINDING ignorance, stupidity, disreputability, dishonesty and arrogance! Two separate distinct things, mon petit crétin.

Abstract value can only be stored in CONSTRAINED supply physical goods, ‘constrained supply’ being left out of that post for brevity as it should be obvious even to someone of your pathetic intellect that abstract demand for an UNconstrained good will merely increase the supply of that good (we cannot use wheat as money, can we retard?). Bitcoin’s physical infrastructure does not meaningfully increase demand for constrained supply physical goods, all value is stored trustlessly and abstractly in the NETWORK, world first. The cost of the network is trifling compared to the value of such an advancement in monetary technology.

>n-n-no t-the ffff-f-fed c-can’t h-h-have infinite m-money
But it does. As Fed Prez Kaskkari explains. Imbecile.
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>>59588098
>QC break btc
No. As I already explained. QCs are analog computers, they are INCAPABLE of general computation, the proof of quantum-proofness for those following along at home too lazy to scroll upthread:

A btc address does not expose a public-key, but a hash of a public-key
Cryptographic hashes are lossy (that is: they lose information)
There is not one sequence that will hash to a given hash, but an INFINITE number of sequences
A QC capable of finding hash collisions will return AN answer (1/∞ of possible sequences for a given hash)
But we are not looking for AN answer, we need the needle-in-the-infinite-haystack that is a valid ECDSA public-key that hashes to that hash
QED
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>>59590240
CQFD



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