>>59603886i wouldn't buy any stocks or crypto right now. there hasn't been a meaningful decline in either for a long time.
Honestly, I ask myself the same question. My leveraged ETFs (Nasdaq-100 x2) are working well but I'm hesitant to all-in Bitcoin and abandon stocks.
>>59603886give me 1 btc
>>59603886there isn't much. Legacy is dead
you should do that. dca too, though. just do what saylor is doing and you will make it.
>>59603886>Give me 1 reason why I shouldnt go 100% into BTC compared to boomer stocks?Real assets + margin of safety
>>59604079Wdym
>>59603886Both are due for a pullback. There is always a chance that bitcoin craters and never recovers. If it did exactly that, the world would keep turning, and nothing would chance aside for some baggies getting liquidated.If boomer stocks went to 0 and never recovered, you would have bigger problems on your hands.
>>59604189>There is always a chance that bitcoin craters and never recoversHow
>>59604120>WdymSUPER QUICK:A stock represents a share in a company. Most companies have real assets: shit that is tangibly "real" like fucking tables and chairs and machines and all that other shit. As a shareholder, you own part of that real shit. In the event of the business going bankrupt, that shit gets sold off and the shareholders get part of the proceeds.Margin of safety is the difference between the value of real assets a share is entitled to and the price the share was purchased at. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PRONE TO HYSTERIA AND PANIC (ie cryptocurrency and tulips), there are often enough times where a stock's price will be sold for less than the value of its real assets.If the stock price recovers (as it often enough does) after people come to their senses, then you've made money, but if the business goes bankrupt, then you get paid out as it's liquidated.It's an approach that was developed by Benjamin Graham.Nowadays, it's a little harder to find the stocks that fit these criteria, but they're still out there: look at INTC right now.But your decisions are based in REALITY if you buy shit that you research and discover has REAL SHIT.Cryptocurrency has absolutely no safety net. It is entirely valued at whatever sheeple say it's valued at. In the event that the cryptocurrency hysteria ends (and it will when economic conditions become tougher), there is no real value to found in any of your crypto holdings.It functions purely as a ponzi scheme. Your only hope is to find some other sucker to buy it from you while you can, and that process just leads to dumber and dumber people holding it, leaving yet dumber and dumber people as potential customers...and there comes a point where very dumb people just don't earn enough fiat money to be able to buy from you, even if they really wanted to.Reality.
>>59604224>and there comes a point where very dumb people just don't earn enough fiat money to be able to buy from you, even if they really wanted to.Unit bias>Cryptocurrency has absolutely no safety net. It is entirely valued at whatever sheeple say it's valued at.All value is subjective. What is the "real" value of your dollar?
>>59603886cuz you’re gay
>>59604257>Unit biasCryptocurrency actually has real and limiting costs: for instance power draw. Unit bias doesn't apply here.>All value is subjective. What is the "real" value of your dollar?No, all value is based in being able to reproduce as much as possible as a living organism: everything flows from there. Value evolved as a concept in order to optimize physical reproduction.The "real" value of the dollar depends on how many dollars you pay in taxes: you have to pay just enough to not be put in jail and have your "real assets" seized by people with guns. Crypto doesn't have any violence to back it up, and never will because it's a ponzi scheme.Nice larp. How's 100k doing?
>>59604288>The "real" value of the dollar depends on how many dollars you pay in taxesThis level of cuckoldry
>>59604224Crypto is higher risk gambling than stocks (mostly [gme lol]). But it does still have better odds than Vegas, in my opinion.
>>59604311>This level of cuckoldryThis is why bitcoin is going to get publicly buttfucked. Crypto is entirely dependent upon the electrical grid, gas power, and communications services (all of which employ taxpayers and use fiat), and yet somehow it thinks it's above all that. It makes sense that you'd be fixated on cuckoldry: you're repressing the knowledge that you're a parasite who, if discovered, would be compared to someone fucking a wife that isn't his. And because you have impotency problems (hello overuse of the word "pump", ever heard of the Swedish Made Enlarger?), you fear the man who would discover you doing this, because it would mean an end to you.Trump is that man.His whole clown act is basically shining a public spotlight on fucked up shit without him taking a side. Look at Greenland as a great example: you know how many people knew it was actually Denmark's bitch? Now everyone knows, and Greenland is talking about independence. Trump's doing that with bitcoin, and taxpayers are going to start getting pissed at you faggots for leeching off their hard work keeping the infrastructure running while you shit on them for being stupid for not buying your shit.Enjoy 2025.
invest in my wallet plz
>>59604371 have fun staying poor
>>59604400Sure give me 10k and I'll give you back 20k-Pelon Husk
>>59604371Did /biz/ just start using ID's lately? I've been gone a few months but not sure if I remember ID's. Must be to police all the cryptofags
>>59604418thx senpai
>>59603886Right now? Would be idiotic, should have looked at the indicators in oct/nov 2022Don't worry, the party music is already on a downtrend, most just don't see it or pretend not to. A short peak to $125k is still a possibility, but that's about it and it's unlikely.
>>59604410Ever heard of John Law?
>>59604446Ever heard of John Marston you fucking gotta have faith.
>>59604450>Ever heard of John Marston you fucking gotta have faithJohn Law != anything to do with the police.Look up the Mississippi Company
>>59604467Sure give me 6k and I'll google whatever bullshit you want me to nigger.
>>59604476>nigger...dude you're the nigger that doesn't know who John Law is, but thinks bitcoin is a good idea.You.Are.a niggerfaggot.
>>59604487Nuh uh I'm rubber you're glue, you didn't give me 6k so fuck you.
>>59604288>Crypto doesn't have any violence to back it up,good job outing yourself as a bootlicker. unfortunately, crypto is for libertarians.
>>59604543>unfortunately, crypto is for libertarians.How do libertarians feel about gun ownership? I totally agree, violence should be easily accessible to every one, makes for a more polite society.But in a more polite (and higher trust society) why the fuck would you need the "security" of bitcoin?
>>59604580>why the fuck would you need the "security" of bitcoin?He doesn't know about inflation and money printingKeep licking daddy gov boots, taxpayer
>>59603886the s&p500 (theoretically) has no topbitcoin (at most) will reach a max value of 1 million per bitcoin
>>59604580>why the fuck would you need the "security" of bitcoin?and why do you need the state's boot in your mouth?
>>59604543I know that nigger owes me 10k
>>59604610You know Bitcoin grows with the money supply right?
>>59604612Nice larp. Had me going for a second.For the record, just because I make a valid observation about the nature of human society doesn't mean I endorse it. I'm just pointing to a real fucking thing.Fuck: crytocurrency IS hopium!Like you think it's impossible for a king faggot dispensing bitcoin to his bootlicking peasants to exist?Get real.
>>59604699>Like you think it's impossible for a king faggot dispensing bitcoin to his bootlicking peasants to exist?They would still have exactly zero (0) control over the Bitcoin network.
>>59604601>He doesn't know about inflation and money printing>Keep licking daddy gov boots, taxpayerFucking idiot. No wonder you're interested in bitcoin: you're just a follow the leader say what everyone else says dumb ass motherfucker.If you think that bitcoin will be endorsed by a government, then you're saying "the people that I'm licking the boots of will be endorsing YOUR cryptocurrency"Which basically means YOU want your boots licked, and your pissed off that you think people would prefer to lick someone else's boots instead of yours.Fuck thats some faggot ass shit right there.Make me. I'm libertarian.
>>59604736>They would still have exactly zero (0) control over the Bitcoin network.Guess the fuck again. Who do you think controls the grid?Like your bitcoin? Let's see how useful it is for you when we turn off your power.Dumb spoiled fucking bitch. Mommy and daddy still pay your bills don't they?
>>59604739>Which basically means YOU want your boots licked, and your pissed off that you think people would prefer to lick someone else's boots instead of yours.Nobody owns Bitcoin. Nobody singular authority is in control of its printing, manufacturing, or its rates. There is no "boot of Bitcoin". There would only be State's relinquishing their dictatorship over the monetary system.>>59604747>we>turn off your powerYou would have to turn off every computer running a Bitcoin node in every country on the planet, dumb-fuck.
>>59604768>Nobody singular authority is in control of its printing, manufacturing, or its rates.No, because it's a virtual currency. What WOULD be regulated are - exchanges (duh): any transaction that anyone has with bitcoin and fiat currency will be treated like the stock market: you'll submit your wallets and your exchanging between USD and btc, and the exchange that you do it with (which will be a regulated entity) will do as well. the ERS will handle this.Any transactions you make between other bitcoin wallets are totally fine! You can exchange bitcoin with anyone, anywhere in your alternate reality economy!BUT- bitcoin MINERS: because every transaction made has an associated miner that logged it, you could pass legislation that awards a LIMITED number of tokens (like the new york cab medallions, for instance) to a limited number of regulated miners. If your bitcoin wallet is found to have made any transactions with any other wallets using a non-licensed miner, you will be fined and or prosecuted. You didn't think the government would let just anyone MINE bitcoin, did you? Why would Wall street be investing in entire companies that do that?>You would have to turn off every computer running a Bitcoin node in every country on the planetNo, you just need to disable the grid locally, or deny access (like china and eu already do), and you can also broker agreements with other countries for shared regulations, like they do already do with the IRS needing to track your worldwide income.Wake the fuck up.
>>59604836>leaves the countryHow are they going to regulate my transactions now, dipshit?
>>59604859>How are they going to regulate my transactions now, dipshit?...which country are you leaving to? Are you giving up American citizenship as well?Right now, in Europe and many other countries, if you want to open a bank account (which you will certainly need to do, because everyone will still use fiat), you are required to give the bank your SSN, because THEY REPORT TO THE IRS. The countries where you don't have to do that I guess is what you're talking about, but it does limit your options.The countries that DON'T do this it's highly unlikely you'll be able to pay for anything using bitcoin, but whatever.The same GLOBAL REACH that the IRS ALREADY HAS will certainly be wielded by the ERS: your transactions will be logged on the blockchain, you will be contacted and fined, because the only countries worth living in all work with the US Government.What you're proposing (leaving the country to escape paying taxes or tariffs or whatever) is already done like all the time. You'd just be doing that: it doesn't foil anything. "Chase me! Chase me!"You're a teenager, aren't you?
>>59604891>The countries that DON'T do this it's highly unlikelyCope.
>>59604920>Cope.LOLYou show me a picture of fucking Cuba, like it's a nice place to live!Fucking hell that made me laugh. Thanks I needed that....LOL is dated, I know. You know what else is dated? Fucking everything in Cuba. Nice cars though.Yeah, fucking run off to Cuba.God damn!
>>59604467Sound like a pinkerton if ya ask me
>>59604946>>59604891>N-NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LIVE ON A PEACEFUL JUNGLE ISLAND IN THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT HAS A CURE FOR LUNG CANCER (BECAUSE OF EMBARGOS)>YOU HAVE TO TAKE JEW COCK UP THE ASS>JUST IGNORE THAT EVERY RICH PERSON WOULD START FLEEING THE COUNTRY DAY 1 OF CRYPTO REGULATIONS BECAUSE ITS THE PEOPLE WITH A NET WORTH OF BILLIONS BUYING BITCOIN NOT POOR PEOPLEYou do nothing but post paragraph after paragraph of seethe. Keep licking their boots clean, they'll return the favor one day.
>>59604946>CubaYou know how many straight men try to get out of Cuba by turning to gay prostitution? No joke, that's how they do it. They meet some nice Euro queer that visits Cuba because it's such a poor shithole that their Euro get them everything, and then they try to fuck some Cuban guy and that guy then latches onto them and tries to get a visa somewhere in Germany, and THEN bring his family over.Yeah, Cuba. A nice place to live, everyone living there wants to get the fuck out.
>>59604964>fantasizing about getting AIDS from a prostituteSurely you have better things to do with your time?
>>59604961>You do nothing but post paragraph after paragraph of seethe.>RANDOM CAPS STUFF THAT YOU ARE UPSETNo seethe here. Live your life! Good luck to you. I'm just pointing out it's stupid but hey freedom of speech of whatever. I'm always happy to hear if anyone says something that makes fucking sense: stuff that makes sense is ALWAYS in short supply whenever there's a large enough group of humans afoot.I honestly wasn't trying to troll you.
>>59604983>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
>>59603886Selling early? Not me
>>59604974>Surely you have better things to do with your time?It's not a fantasy. I don't judge, I don't care what they do, I'll talk with anyone (obviously), they tell me their stories. You can also talk to any Cuban in Miami about whether they'd like to go back to Cuba. There's a reason there are so many Cuban fucking refugees: it sucks to live there.
>>59605001>believing the descendants of slave-owners and fascists who got kicked outlmao get a load of this bootlicker
>>59603886why not both
>>59604189this is the correct taketraditional stocks operate on a house of cardsnumber has to keep going upif it doesn't, we're all fuckedbitcoin is just some degen gambling play in which case, you're better off betting on shitcoins
>>59605021>believing the descendants of slave-owners and fascists who got kicked out...not the ones still arriving. This isn't the 1950's we're talking about here: every year there are tens of thousands of NEW Cuban refugees that arrive in America.Shit do some research. Best of luck, that's it for me.
>>59603886Ooops I dropped something.Is that a quarter or a dime?
>>59605022because he doesnt have 200% dummy
>>59603886Dim, din...DinVERSITIDATIOn
>>59603886Crypto is dead. Atleast stocks are real life companies
>>59603886You should, but do it in the next bear market not now
>>59606537>>59604189>>59603978what about Trump assuming office? Everywhere I look I see hype for crypto due to this. Are they full of shit? Can you explain your outlook on this
>>59603886I can't. Get in BTC or MSTR soon.
>>59603886>Give me 1 reason why I shouldnt go 100% into BTC compared to boomer stocks?Can you explain to your Grandmother in 5 minutes why BTC is better than any other coin and how it satisfying a NEED in society that money and gold can not fill.Stocks are the worth of companies that make things people NEED.
