HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASub $2 incoming
>>59605144>watcherguruGreat source there you fucking linkie faggot
>>59605144Gary is out in 5 days. This was just one last petty bit of kikery.
If XRP isn't a security, then literally nothing in this world is a security.
>he thinks it mattersCuteXrp is inevitable
Kek. Gensler throwing a temper tantrum because he is unemployed in under 1 week?
>>59605144>gloating that it might dipWe’ve been dealing with the sec and their shit for years and they’re almost finished. This doesn’t phase any of us who have been stacking for years. You are so very desperate for a win againstXRP that you think this fucking matters and it is pathetic.
>>59605170IT'S CRASHINGHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59605185Zoom out
>>59605144OHNONONOONONONONO
I seriously hope you all immidiately opened shorts
>>59605190>zoom out>price/support was 50 cents just 2 monthsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59605144based
Can I get that TE?
>>59605185>IT'S CRASHINGHuh? I'm up 600%
EXIT ALL MARKETS
>$3 lostOH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHATIMBERRRR!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA>>59605264>I'm up 600%And soon 500%, 400%, 300%... the price was 50 cents just 2 months ago buddy lmao
SHORT SHORT SHORT
>>59605144dis coin just dethroned solana on the mumbai index, its a very good coin now, dont fud saars, buy ryppel coin!
Lmao a pump to $3.15 trap. RIP to though who bought. I fucking knew it.
>>59605339Those*
>>59605144>New SEC chief comes in that has already called lawsuit retarded>stops appeal>pump continuesOP is an inferior human
>>59605185Hold on, let him cook.
>>59605283OMG broke nigger zoomer faggot. The price is back above $3 just like that. Face it faggot, you work at popeyes and are priced out. It's your own fault you had 10 fucking years to pick up a bag and now you are fucked. Why don't you kill yourself instead of trolling XRP you dumb nigger kike ape.
>>59605501God doesnt like when you tell other people to kill themselves. You are being watched at all times, even your thoughts. Remember these words brother
>>59605524true but to be honest some of them deserve it
Oh no!Anyway, what do you guys think of the Lotus Emira? Just checked one out today, but was thinking maybe a Cayman S
>>59605524>whining after a thread full of gloating
>>59605704Nigga just get a honda. Dont be a an absolute charity giving dumbfuck. Cars like that are useless ass money sinks and you are practically asking officers and random niggers to fuck you in the ass by driving shit like it.
>>59605704I'll give you my opinion... for 2 xrp
FUD
>>59605190continue to zoom out anonthis peaked in 2018, when literally everything break their tops in 2021i honestly feel sorry for you XRP holders, you're slightly better than linkies(fuck those guys)
>>59605169Whats you legal qualifications and please explain.
It’s not even dumping it’s just reacting to bitcoin dropping off
>>59607168You have no clue how fucking high XRP is going to go lmao
>>59605144>SEC about to rape XRP for the nth timeyeah i have to admit i just got on coinbase to see if i could short xrp but they don't have that option lol
>>59607169>please explainSimple: the Howey test.This test has four parts, but the key part is the "expectation of profit" one.So if you don't want to be a security, you can't tell people "we'll make the price go up".Ripple on the other hand did this a lot.See pic; it's from the final ruling. Every color is a separate example of Ripple saying "we'll make the price go up".Which is why the ruling says that all XRP sold directly by Ripple counts as securities.
>>59607213Its only a non security when sold on the secondary market, Its still classed as a security if Ripple sells it directly to someone. You also need all 4 prongs of the howey test not just one. But i think most things will be classed the same as XRP soon enough, companies will just sell on the market to get around it.
>>59607228>Its only a non security when sold on the secondary market, Its still classed as a security if Ripple sells it directly to someoneExactly.>You also need all 4 prongs of the howey test not just one. Most objects you can buy meet two or three of the Howey prongs.The deciding prong is "expectation of profit".>most things will be classed the same as XRP soon enoughOnly the ones where the devs literally said "we'll make the price go up".
>>59607234We'll see if the Howey test is still used when the new SEC head comes in and gives clarity to Cryptos. I assume the useful (XLM, XDC, Link etc) tokens will be classed the same way XRP is.
>>59607259The Howey test was laid down by SCOTUS, not the SEC. And it's been valid for 80 years.If it's going to be changed, it'll have to come from SCOTUS again.And besides, I think the test itself is perfectly sound.If you go around selling tokens while shouting "I'll make the price go up for you", then you're literally selling investment contracts (aka securities).It's not even a question.The only problem would be if judges start saying there was expectation of profit even when crypto devs never explicitly say "we'll make the price go up".But that's not a problem with the test itself.
>>59605144The appeal doesn't cover XRP's security status. The SEC did not, clarified they are not, and cannot appeal this judicial ruling. OP is the same link spammy. Cope.
>>59607266Its possible it will change, Trump is keen for america to be the crypto hub of the world, Giving new guidelines for crypto would make it easier for that to happen, if that means changing 80 year laws around orange groves so be it.Anyway im off to work, enjoy your day.
>>59607270>The appeal doesn't cover XRP's security status.bruhSee pic.>>59607280>Its possible it will change, Trump is keen for america to be the crypto hub of the worldAll you have to do as a crypto is NOT tell people you'll pump the price of your own token.If you DO decide do tell people that, you're obviously selling investment contracts.
>>59607290This is describing specific sales to institutions/retail during a specific window of time it has NOTHING to do with the fact it was in dicta declared a non-security. Ripple completely restructured their institutional product to source XRP after this ruling and are able to offer XRP using services without breaching similar contract conditions. They don't even have the procedural grounds to appeal the in dicta determination or it as being not a security by the judge. Sharing an Unusual Whales telegram blurb doesn't change this fact. You are the same sperg who posted a dozen threads shilling link and shitting on XRP in the last week. We can all tell by your post structure. Cope and seethe, you disingenuous fucking faggot. You're getting what you deserve
>>59607290Even your faggot hero, the most pronounced XRP hater in the history of the technology concedes this. Lol
>>59607355>>59607360They're literally asking the court to reconsider the conclusion by judge Torres, and also declare the XRP sold to retail investors as securities.
>>59607290>>59607355>>59607360e.g. XRP is the ONLY token with regulatory clarity as a non-security besides BTC. And Ripple spent $150M carving out the skeleton for other tokens to fight or slide in. They were offered a settlement very early and said they would only settle with the clear language that XRP was not a security acknowledged by the SEC. Now they have it, despite the SEC getting bitchslapped to provide it by the courts, among literally every other crypto decision they are beaten on and sanctioned "for abusing its unique status to present evidence that was false, mischaracterized, and/or misleading" (Debt Box Case). See also the Kraken case (pic related), recent judicial ruling in Coinbase case, etc. I you like crypto to be free from tyranny you should love Ripple and what they've done, not even to mention to protect us from Ethgate centralized L2 social credit Hell.
>>59607361Once more blocked from posting anything which calls XRP not a security in a granular way no matter how it is edited with no trigger words by whatever faggot link cultust mod flagged it. See pic related. You are inarguably retarded
imagine spending even a second on this sperg shit.line go up. thats all that matters.
>>59607361And again, they TOTALLY restructured how they source XRP in their products to make their new transactions non-violative of this ruling. It in no way affects their business operation and even less affects XRP's clarity as a non-security, riding into a favorable admin which is 100% not going to reverse course
>>59607399>>59607406They are arguing the XRP sold by Ripple to retail (via exchanges) are securities too.That means pretty much all of it.
>>59605704Its free to test drive and day dream
>>59607413It's not going to happen you dumb fucking cattle. See >>59607360
>>59607413They are arguing the conditions constituting the sale were securities offerings, not the underlying asset. You are either terminally low IQ and literally unable to understand how an apple can be included in a salad but is not itself salad or being deliberately repressed out of preloaded unwillingness to admit you are wrong about something that is inconvenient to your investment (which also makes you low IQ). Which is it?
>>59607427>>59607442for fucks sake stop giving (You)s to that faggot fishy, he's trolling you morons
>>59607427The ruling states that Ripple has to stop selling securities, and these securities are defined in the conclusions of the July 13 order.>>59607442>They are arguing the conditions constituting the sale were securities offerings, not the underlying assetThat's always the case with securities.
>>59605210Bobo really wants ass fucking. You really want it don't you you little cubby bear slut . You want that thick cock deep inside you , thrusting till it fills you to the brim with hot load. Yeah open up those shorts for me Bobo boi
The price isn't dropping so I guess it's a nothing burger and the only people that care are some bots on biz.
>>59607468Literally everyone is saying what I'm saying.
>>59607487it's not bots, it's seething paid Chainlink shills
>59607491Keep listening to the media, they have your best interest at heart.>>59607499Same thing.
>>59607473No it isn't you seething fucking faggot. And it doesn't translate to challenging the security status of XRP nor is it relevant to current Ripple institutional sales, which are ongoing. There is no outcome from this appeal which leads to appeals courts declaring XRP a security, you defiant, uncritical, dragged kicking and screaming, ngmi, retard. And SEC have a less than 20% track record in this form or appeal even against the claims about Ripple and have lost 5 out of 6 of the past cases at the Supreme Court. The current SEC chairman is literally stepping down in disgrace as the incoming president elect, who campaigned on firing him for his actions on crypto and Rep dominated French Hill headed legislative leadership takes the helm. There is no benefit to being deliberately repressed. It will not change what Is the case. It will only change the length of time you can pretend and within that pretending, LITERALLY choose specific coin based ideology (not even principle based) over making smart investment choices. Why be like this?
is that dump in the room with us?
>>59607499Literally this.
>>59607572It's dumping upwards
>>59605144sounds good, imagine if it was an insecurity ahahahah *cough - cough*t. no coiner
>>59607570See >>59607491You little ball of seethe you.
>SELL YOUR BAGS PLS PLS IT'S A SCAM SELL THEM ALL AND BUY MY BAGS PLSSSSSSSpathetic
>>59607491>>59607644So you actually are so stupid you don't understand. Lol They are saying the offerings to investors were securities, not the token itself. See once more the orange grove and apple/salad example. They are not appealing the judicial qualification that XRP is not a security. You need to read more before posting and learn to read before that. This is like me saying "those bricks compose a building" talking about a brick building. That doesn't make a brick a building or necessarily a constituent to one, nor does it make arrangements or bricks necessarily buildings. This is like a semi-step above "circle doesn't go in the square hole" shit.
>>59607687I have no idea what kind of strawman you're even attacking here.I'm literally only saying what it says in these pics: >>59607290 >>59607491
>>59607644>>59607687And by saying I mean "arguing against a ruling courts just found against them in. With a massive losing track record and literally being sanctioned by courts and described as acting contrary to the spirit of the law by judges. And even if they find remedy ultimately, XRP remains the only token with BTC tier status of being non-security.
if it's a security how come I don't feel secure
>>59607717Unreal. I'm not strawmanning you; you're strawmanning the quotes you are trying to cite and I am saying how. They specifically mention they are talking about sales of XRP, not XRP itself. No offense but is english your second language? This is not that hard to understand. See once more the brick example. They are not even arguing XRP is a security. They are arguing specific long past sales of XRP are securities (after arguing same and losing in prior court). No outcome will affect the non-security status or XRP whatsoever one way or the other. Genuinely don't understand how you don't get this, or what is difficult about it and it feels like you have to be being deliberately obtuse to argue and fud regardless what is true.
Bitfucks are grasping at straws with their whole life while XRP continues to pump
>>59607736Literally all I'm saying is that the SEC wants the XRP sold to retail investors (via exchanges) to be considered securities as well.That's literally what they're asking.
>>59607384Achsually, Nano practically got ruling as a currency. During the bitgrail case, the notion that Nano could be a security was dismissed with prejudice
>>59607740Gensler hates crypto, but he is leaving in a few days. Let's see what Paul Atkins says about the case. Until all we are doing is pissing in the wind.
>>59607767>Gensler hates cryptoBut for (((some reason))) he was a big fan of FTX. Go figure!
>>59607774Yeah strange isn't it. He was a good boy and did what he was told.
>>59607740That doesn't make the tokens themselves become securities permanently, retard. It makes the offering packaging them a security in the court relevant time period. You have no idea what you are even saying. Lol
Xrp 3.3 and rising…
>>59607788>That doesn't make the tokens themselves become securities permanentlyAnd you're telling me this why?
>>59607717>>59607736Forgot pic related.
>>59607795Because you were literally arguing that the appeal was seeking to designate XRP as a security and that all securities offerings qualify the statement the same way and are now embarrassedly/embarrassingly pivoting to pretending you were only claiming they were claiming the same thing I have said this whole time while pretending this is not different from what you originally alleged.
>>59607774And Ethereum and Prometheum and was Hillary Clinton's campaign CFO and...
>>59607812>you were literally arguing that the appeal was seeking to designate XRP as a securityThe XRP sold to retail, yes. Within the purview of this case.
>>59605169The oranges are oranges my man.A security has a contractual obligation.It's not hard to understand.
>>59607840>A security has a contractual obligation.No it doesn't.
>>59607830That does not make XRP a security, nor does it mark the specific XRP sold and make them now a sub-portion of the supply that is a security. There is not a single potential outcome in this suit which will probably not even make it to trial that ends up with 1 single XRP being itself a security, which is what you claimed. You are TOTALLY walking back your claim because you realized you are wrong and now arguing what I always said as though it is something new which I am challenging after spending 10 replies claiming it was a challenge to the legal status of XRP itself which you are now pretending you didn't make. This has got to be te lowest IQ move I have ever seen in argument.
>>59605144Thanks OP, made me check my folio and sell some of my stack because we are literally at ATH right now you retarded fudtranny
>>59607846Literally it does.These are contracts.XRP gives me no "right" to anything.
>>59607847The XRP sold to institutions are literally securities ("investment contracts").And the SEC now officially wants the XRP sold to retail via exchanges to be considered securities as well.>>59607864>XRP gives me no "right" to anything.It gives you ownership of the token.
>>59607874And buying an orange gives you ownership of the orange.That's call a retail sale.
>>59607879Take it up with judge Torres lol
>>59607882I've been in contact with her personally ACKshewly.She said "good job anon for understanding basic things in life" and "good job not listening to retarded linkfaggots and btc maxis online MAGA".
>>59607874Holy shit. No it doesn't. It wants the sale to be considered it and fines to be levied corresponding to it. If the investors are selling the tokens into the secondary market, they do not need to draw up new arrangements with purchasers to let them know they hold a part or supply now considered securities. When a farmer sells off a portion of a previously securitized section of orange grove, the purchased grove section is not a continual security. Nor is the orange itself that is sold even in the securitized arrangement. I LITERALLY can't believe you think this means that the XRP which was sold is not considered permanently packaged as securities. Lol This is so fucking insane, I LITERALLY cannot believe anyone thinks it
>>59607738actually it's linkcucks mostly
>>59607894If you buy the ownership title to an orange (be it a slip of paper or a token) and the seller tells you he'll make the price of it go up, then that ownership title is a security.>>59607920>It wants the sale to be considered itNo.The wording goes like this: "the SALE OF xrp constituted the SALE OF investment contracts".Ergo, the xrp = investment contracts.
>>59607874>>59607920Btw if it did do this (it 100% inarguably does not), the hypothetical circulating non-security supply would suddenly become substanially more scarce and the price would shoot up. Lol
>>59607937But that didn't happen.I just buy my tokens at retail price from a vendor same as my oranges.
>>59607954>I just buy my tokens at retail price from a vendor same as my oranges.And if the vendor tells you he'll make the price go up, that makes the tokens securities.Keep in mind that tokens can be "financial instruments" while physical objects typically can't. That's why "tokenized assets" are a thing.
>>59607964>iftopkekYou have lost and were wrong for literally ten years.Just do this.REFLECT ON WHY YOU WERE WRONG.And make some changes.Good luck to you.
anons, are you retarded? why do you keep giving (You)s to retarded paid link shills?
>>59607937BECAUSE OF THE SALE BY RIPPLE. Investment contract is literally used interchangeably with "security." The sale of their product containing XRP was the [SEC alleged, court ruled against] investment contract. The XRP itself was not the alleged security in the appeal. Massive, turbo-defiant L for you.
WTFWT
>>59607970What do you mean?>>59607975>BECAUSE OF THE SALE BY RIPPLEYes.>The sale of their product containing XRPNo, the outright and direct sale of XRP.
>>59607976BOBO BROS?
>>59607985You can still do alright in life if you reflect on what made you so wrong for so long.
>>59607964No company can turn oranges into securities because they decide to sell them. They can create investment contracts containing specific present or future oranges and sell the contract. That doesn't mean when the supermarket who buys the orange and contributes to the revenue stream underlying the performance of the security needs to mark the oranges in their market as securities or that the oranges themselves are securities or that the SEC can go after someone who robs the truck delivering them or the Asian market owner who falsely markets them as tangerines for "securities fraud." Lol You are just flat wrong in a SUPER embarrassingly hard nosed and low categorical thinking skill way.
>>59608021>No company can turn oranges into securities because they decide to sell them.Oranges themselves no, because they're physical objects.If you created ownership titles to the oranges, then absolutely you can turn that into securities.That's what the Howey company did.
>59607985there you go, now he's given up completely and he resorts to one liners stop wasting your time bros, he's not arguing in good faith, he's only trying to get you to pump his shit bagsbe smart, hide and ignore shills, enjoy your XRP gains!
>>59607985You are literally making the argument I originally made and pretending you are proving me wrong, and then claiming it means your original statement about the non-security status of XRP is true. You are not fit for public discussion. Lol This is so fucking retarded it is tough to even conceptualize.
>>59608036yeah that's his mondus operandi, check out his twitterfishy catfish
>>59607746No responsesighI tried
>>59608036The XRP tokens sold to institutions (in the purview of the case) counts as securities.And now the SEC wants the XRP sold to retail (in the purview of the case) to count as securities as well.These have been my only two points this entire discussion.
>>59608034That is my whole fucking point retard. You are making the same argument as me and acting like it is proving me wrong. This is insane. Revisit what I said about the only difference between XRP and orange apples in. >>59607442and pic related in:>>59607399
>>59608049No, they are not enduringly securities. Just like the oranges in the case are no. You replied to the first sentence in my post and need to reread: >>59608021
>>59608060>That is my whole fucking point retard.Then we're in agreement, aren't we?Here's my first post saying exactly that: >>59607361>They're literally asking the court to reconsider the conclusion by judge Torres, and also declare the XRP sold to retail investors as securities.
>>59605181>phasekek
>>59607746Had never heard this. Post sauce if true. Hate Nano no matter what. Total spam vulnerable node fucked shitcoin brought to you by literal scammer and work politic obsessives.
>>59608072>he made a homophone>I am from redditGot it.
Didn't judge Torres made a little law or somethin' about this? linkies tongue my anus
>>59608065You literally don't even know what you are alleging. You are claiming one thing and concluding another. No one EVER disputed the SEC were challenging the specific sales of XRP were securities. They were challenging your claim that XRP itself was a security. You went from fighting this to conceding it and pretendint you never claimed it while simultaneously acting like your conclusion is still justified. It is so distended and odd and spurious and self-servingly incoherent it is actually impressive. Lol
>>59608102>They were challenging your claim that XRP itself was a security.The XRP sold to institutions (in the purview of the case) literally are securities.
>>59608109the market doesn't care tho
B-B-BUT THEY FILED AN APPEALWHY IS IT STILL GOING UPSOMEONE STOP THEMTURN THE MACHINES OFFTURN THE MACHINES OFF
>>59608117In fact, the market saw this as very good news when it first broke 18 months ago.
>>59608117and now he's going to tell you that the market is retarded and you should immediately buy his bags (shitlink)It's no use guys, he's PAID to shit on XRP, once you realize this you'll stop feeding him (You)s
>>59608127A swing and a miss
>>59608127He should have bought the dip, he could have made it.
yes, you've been doing exactly that throughout the entire thread
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>>59608083You realise every other blockchain is vulnerable to spam right? You realise that nano is now the only blockchain that has measures in place to prevent spam (that don't impact ordinary users) right?
>>59608161you cant say stink only shittry it
i lost everything (which wasn't much to begin with, i'm fucking broke) being a bobo. guess it's time to be a spot mumu.what the fuck does this even do anyway?
>59608162go back to your containment thread and cry into your nanobags, nanofag
>>59608169lol you don't even know how to reply, newfag.
>>59607746>>59608083woke* politic
>>59608109No, they literally aren't. They are the basis investment underlying the securty contract. The packaged transaction hosting them is and they are in all future sales just like any other XRP (and every other XRP), non-securities. You aren't even making a semantic deep parsing point, you are just wrong.
>>59608182>I am going to ignore the greatest transfer of wealth because of le culture war
>>59608194From the July 13 2023 order by judge Torres.
>>59608162This is not a ruling it is not a security. I am not arguing it is one and think it likely isn't but in no world is this an institutional green light. Particularly after the exchange scam they ran and the node failure they did. The whole gimmick of being feeless is not a feat of technical mastery and is something any network is capable of but no network chooses because it makes it extremely vulnerable. XNO is down 96% because this vulnerability was demonstrated in glaring inarguability as was its inability to handle transactions it would need to be able to, and the team literally defrauded investors. Do I need to post the pasta you are well familiar with but pretend doesn't exist that eviscerates the XNO investment argument. There are few cryptos I am as glad to see fail for principled reasons as I am Nano with their weird woke shit.
>>59608215It's a decent legal foothold and making a case that a coin that was distributed for free could be a security is already an uphill battle.>Particularly after the exchange scam they ranSo, Satoshi was responsible for Mt.Gox by this logic?>The whole gimmick of being feelessBeing technically superior is a gimmick?>because it makes it extremely vulnerableBucketing system.>XNO is down 96%So by this logic bitcoin is the best tech?>the team literally defrauded investorsDid Satoshi defraud investors in Mt. Gox?>Do I need to post the pastaNo, you don't need to start spamming a bunch of irrelevant tweets>Nano with their weird woke shitName a single crypto group that isn't "woke", you're mindbroken by /pol/
>>59608214Yes, Lol. From the same judge. A portion of the tokens are not transformed into enduring securities. A select period of offering of some tokens are (alleged by SEC, denied by courts) to be securities. Not even clear what you think you're correcting or thinking we ever disagreed with. We aren't claiming the SEC aren't arguing anything. Wtf are you even intending to argue here?
>>59607213But thats not what it says. Some institutional sales of xrp were sold as securites. The legal status of xrp can not be changed, that boat has sailed. This is about the fine they need to or do not need to pay. You are spreading lies and its so pathetic that i know who you are. You have been doing this for weeks on end now you sickly pitiful individual. Rent free you little shitter. I told you it was going to break ath. Go make some more collages you pathetic linktard
>>59608234Well yes, it's the token in context.Which is why the XRP sold to institutions are securities, and the XRP sold to retail via exchanges aren't.>>59608236>The legal status of xrp can not be changedWell the SEC is trying now with this appeal.
>>59608204>The greatest transfer of wealthYou mean the 96% crash post-the tech failing and the founders scamming the investors while representing a culture/body politic that the infrastructure establishing admin will NEVER reward/embrace and now investors are literally so prospectless and desperate they have taken to trying to coopt an old even originally retarded meme of portal fag to try to mythologize their terminal outcome by redirecting schizo energy and trying to coopt XRP threads in general because they literally get owned in every single general they try to make by past investors who hate people still shilling it?
>Well the SEC is trying now with this appeal.kek, yeah... that's really something
>>59608260>le price is low so it's le badYou realise "the flip of the switch" is Elon tweeting out "Xmoney is using XNO" right? That's all it takes to end the debate
>>59608232Disingenuous faggot I am not saying it is a bad investment because its price is down. I'm saying its price CRASHED because it was demonstrated to be bad tech-and that other technically superior networks chose to be not be feeless for good reason. Satoshi didn't coordinate with the exchanges and cash in. Lol You made a TERRIBLE choice and were warned. It isn't coming back. Stop trying to be a shit person and offload onto others to cope and dig out. Stop trying o shoehorn this bullshit into generals and other threads that have nothing to dow with it and don't give a fuck about it. Cope healthier.
>>59608287Before we continue about other generals, have you actually read loadstars 1-3? Or are you just larping when it comes to respecting the lore?
>>59608241Tokens sold to institutions are not inherently securities transactions. Again, we aren't even talking about current institutional offerings of Ripple. They totally restructured their product and how they source XRP. You are talking about specific types of sales contracts at a very specific time years ago. You have shifted the argument you are making to save face or something but again worth reiterating, in no outcome does XRP or current institutional sales of XRP become securities offerings based on this lawsuit
>nanojeet thinks elon will pump his bags, because reasons
>>59608285Didn't argue it is bad because the price is low faggot. I said the price cratered after the tech failed and the team defrauded investors (you).
>>59608303>Tokens sold to institutions are not inherently securities transactionsLiterally nobody said this.>You are talking about specific types of sales contracts >You have shifted the argument I've been talking about the Torres judgment this entire time.
>>59608293I have been in XSG since it started. Portal was always gay and barely considered and not nano. You are a latefag baggy desperate to dig out. Pathetic.
>>59608311If they defrauded people why aren't they in jail post lawsuit?
>>59608313You have been mischaracterizing the content of the appeal and the securitization of underlying XRP and then pivoted to agreeing with what we all said from the outset and acting like you proved us wrong. Lol Why?
>>59608316I'm just going to repeat my question until you answer it>have you actually read loadstars 1-3?
Doesn't matter. Judge Trump has spoken.
>>59608332>You have been mischaracterizing the content of the appealI directly quoted it. Here it is again.They want the XRP sold to retail to be counted as investment contracts (securities) just like the XRP sold to institutional investors were.
>>59608322Good question.Nano has some of the worst distribution in crypto. For many, Nano Foundation dumping Nano worth 300 000 USD on Nano bagholders each month sounds insane. Well, not so much when Colin is using funds from Nano Foundation to fight private messy divorce and slander accusations in court.https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.746752/gov.uscourts.cacd.746752.1.0.pdfAfter dumping like a madman, Colin claims to have only 5-6 million Nano left.Colin is angry that confidential information was leaked from this lawsuit and confidential settlement agreement:https://decrypt.co/6396/nano-cryptocurrency-seeks-dismissal-170-million-rescue-fork-lawsuitFrom Nano Foundations/Colins lawsuit:>They tell their customers 'if you really believe in Nano ..... go to this small exchange in Italy that we don't know anybody and we have nothing to do but we completely vouch for him and he's running a legitimate exchange', we're gonna [sic] give him the Nano, he's gonna [sic] give us money every time he sells a Nano, he's gonna [sic] take half and we're gonna take half, we're gonna [sic] get rich and then one day there's gonna [sic] be an exit scam and then you're gonna [sic] be out $150 million."> Mr. LeMahieu and the other Nano developers face the prospect of a jail sentence in a current Federal action
>>59608322The only people that have defrauded the People are the employees of the US Federal Government and the SEC, IRS and Private Corporation Federal Reserve. Traitors get the Rope.
>>59608322George lied in autumn 2020 that it would be a hell of a Christmas for Nano and that they would reach "industrial scale" with their new TPS, aaaaand of course she lied as Nano has always done. Later they lied about Nano funding and did not tell the community that they had been bankrupt for months. Had huge loans, so people looking into their Nano Foundation wallets did not know they were bankrupt despite having assets there.Colin also lied for years about auditing the initial distribution of Nano, until he finally called it off for good, after having been lying for years to the Nano community that Nano had the best and fairest distribution in crypto. In court documents, he admitted to have been dumping tens of millions of Nano for years, but now, at that time, claimed to only have 5-6 million Nano left. Nobody believed him, as he had all the time operated with a network of hidden wallets, so nobody could ever really know how much Nano he had. Something he always hid from the community.
>>59608365>>59608377lmfao broken so hard he resorted to spam, hasn't read the loadstars, is larping about being a lorefag ITS OVER GGTOTAL NANO VICTORY
>>59608316>Nano Heading for Disaster – Dirty Deals with BitGrailhttp://archive.is/GGWIG>Nano and Bitgrail leaders scammed over $100 million from Bitgrailhttp://archive.is/zAtyl>Dangerous flaws and major problems with Nanohttp://archive.is/diUnZ>Worst anti-White, anti-European globohomos in crypto>>/biz/thread/S24148427
>>59608339At the time, in specific sales of an underlying asset that is not itself a security and is free to mingle with the other XRP in next sales. If you agree with all of this you have fully assimilated to our point even if pretending it is all you were ever saying (no one ever disputed this).
>>59608408>you have fully assimilated to our point I said what I said from the very beginning lmaoThe appeal refers to the judge Torres order and judgment, that was the basis for my points THE ENTIRE TIME.
>>59608386For some reason unable to post pic related without it being flagged?
>>59608419No you didn't. And arguing you did just means arguing that you set out to argue what we originally all agreed against us using the same claim, which is even stupider and definitely untrue. This is really weird cope.
>>59607399>>59608472hello samefag>>59608478>No you didn't.My first post in this discussion was a literal pic from the appeal directly referring to judge Torres' order and judgment.
>>59608386I read all the lore and literally wrote the schizo rambling pastebins in the OP, faggot
>>59608483Those are both my IDs. I am phonefagging on data and my network must have shifted.
>>59608497You're writing all these walls of text and double replying all on a phone?You're insane.
>>59608483Yes, and your argument about what it meant started as something else and then changed as you got embarrassed and realized you were wrong. It's an anon forum, it isn't that big of a deal. Being like this is extremely weird.
>>59608493OK, so in Loadstar 3 what did BG123 mean when he said >A new cryptoasset was being backed by the country with the largest economy in the world and there was no stopping it.> the fact that the-one-cryptoasset-that- can-not-be-named will be the catalyst that will drive the grand reformation.Keep in mind, it can't be XRP because in loadstar 1 we know that >Ripple is always in the news, always in the mind's eye of the financial world, always in conversations in the white halls of power when it comes to funds and new technology
>>59608505>changedNo it didn't.All I ever did was refer to Torres's wording, that the XRP sold to institutions were securities and the XRP sold to retail weren't
>>59608504Being mad I am replying substantively after you got embarrassed is misdirect and not meaningful reply. It takes me as fast as it takes to type to form my replies. Everything is stream of consciousness and takes very little time and even if it took hours is irrelevant to what is true and not. Cope healthier.
>>59608514You have the best smartphone keyboard and the fastest little fingers on the planet kekYou're not on a phone.
Like I said in another thread, I hope all you XRP haters have a anti-suicide bag of at least 1000 XRP. Maybe it will stop you from hanging yourself and will help you cope with the idea that you spent most of your time in a rent-free state instead of researching and accumulating more XRP.
>>59608523This but for XNO.
>>59608507This does not translate to XNO or even suggest it as a top 5 (Nano is headquartered in the UK). Just offhand I would pick XLM, QNT, FLR, ALGO over it on the same argument. But honestly if you invest based on the lore alone you are a fucking retard.
>>59608509Then you drastically misstated what you meant originally and are a fucking moron for ever making an argument about this because no one ever disagreed the SEC were claiming certain offerings of XRP were securities offerings or that the judge ruled same wrt those years ago offerings.
>>59608520I absolutely am. If I am not, why are the twitter screenshots I sent earlier in reply to the original arguer from a smartphone, with time displayed at the same time of posting at the top of the picture on my phone's clock? Maybe I am just more capable than you. Lol
>>59608520If you want current proof.
>>59608533>Nano is headquartered in the UKIt starts in London.>Just offhand I would pick XLM, QNT, FLR, ALGO over itSure, you could make that case. But:>Yes, the PTB, old money, and others have been using words and phrases as cues for ages beyond imagination to enact plans within plans. If you keep your eyes open you can see how it all fits.The phrase "The Powers That Be" would be abbreviated to "TPTB" surely. Why has he abbreviated it to "PTB"? P to B? What was Raiblock's old ticker? XR...>Like David says and keeps repeating, just say “no” to tribalism...Also, no other coin has a better distribution. Every other coin was airdropped or ICO'd, not to mention they possess fees. You clearly don't understand the tech, but maybe the riddles will have spelt it out for you now
>>59608523Lol
>>59608581Calling out scams and bad arguments is not tribalism. Your "..B" argument is so retarded it is unreal. Nothing you wrote is substantial or worth even considering.
>>59608598not schizo, ngmi in the first wave, simple as
>>59608545>no one ever disagreed the SEC were claiming certain offerings of XRP were securities offerings or that the judge ruled sameYou disagreed with that.me >>59608109>The XRP sold to institutions (in the purview of the case) literally are securitiesyou: >>59608194>No, they literally aren't.
>>59608613No I didn't, you absolute, seething, retard. I claimed the sales of the token were securities, the tokens themselves are not enduringly securities. I even gave elementary school tier analogies for you to understand. Why be like this?
>>59608609Very schizo, not retarded. Your argument is terrible and desperate and it is not surprising you fell for a scam and got dumped on hard
>>59608631>I claimed the sales of the token were securitiesThe wording is "the SALE OF xrp constituted the SALE OF investment contracts".Ergo, the xrp = investment contracts.Not all xrp are securities, xrp is not inherently a security, but THOSE xrp were securities because of the way they were sold.
>>59608640So what coin was he referring to then? You said it could be any of them, which one is it?
>>59608643But are not transformed into enduring securities as a subset of circulating supply, as I have now said and given comprehensive analogy for multiple times. You are being weird as fuck. See:>>59608021
>>59608659>But are not transformed into enduring securitiesI never argued a single word for or against this statement.
>>59608659>weird as fuckHe just is seething just like the sec with their retarded claims all these years.A pathetic faggot. And he stinks like link.
>>59608657I don't know and I don't care to guess and am fully content in the security of XRP rather than losing everything guessing on a riddle I don't need to. If I had to bet (would never invest on this basis alone but if I had to) I would absolutely not pick a scam with notoriously (even for tech) woke team who talk about whiteness in corporate leadership and scammed investors and are located outside the US, have not sufficiently tested tech, failed in tests they did, have unsustainable node/distribution conditions sustained by "volunteers"? Lol
>>59608662Then what the fuck are you even talking about? You are literally saying you were just stating what literally everyone agreed very uncomplicatedly were always the conditions of the suit, which you absolutely weren't, but is almost stupider as a cover story, and is pathetic given it is obviously being used as a cover story to feel less embarrassed on an anon image board. Lol
>>59608670Agreed.
>>59608684Isn't the nano team almost all white? You should be all in by your own logic
>>59608702>Then what the fuck are you even talking about?kek you're the one who ended up agreeing with me.
>>59608684>have unsustainable node/distribution conditions sustained by "volunteers"? LolWAITYOU REALISE XRP NODES DON'T GET PAID EITHER RIGHTHoly shit what an own goal ahhaha
>>59608722Why would I be all in on a self-hating liberal whore governed tech company whose tech doesn't work and will never work and has MAJOR unresolvable node issues?
>>59608734Holy shit this is pathetic and weird as fuck. I have genuinely never seen a weirder cope.
>>59608743OK so I can't find any "woke" press coming from the Ripple team? You already know I can
>>59608753Self aware post
>>59608759That guy is retarded bro, join the nano army instead. The only functional crypto that can never be a security (distributed for free)
>>59605144lmao speculatards who think they missed the boat are so mad
>>59608741Do I know the literal founding concept of the network built to solve the inefficiencies of bitcoin? Yes. Yet the volunteers aren't told to patch with foundation sent zip files after crashing at 200-300 tps and their nodes don't catastrophically fail and fail to continue generating valid ledgers constantly and can literally scale with ILP to millions of tps. https://archive.is/diUnZ
>>59608759Cope healthier, you disingenuous, low IQ, absolute cringe epicenter.
>>59608754I never claimed they had none. Some extent of wokeness in Silicon Valley is basically assumed. The shit Nano does goes beyond corporate virtue signaling into truly insane White Fragility tier shit. Either way, I am not making one dimensional arguments like the ones you are making and trying to misrepresent me as making. I think Chris Larsen is a huge faggot. XRP is still the standard.
>>59608834me:>I never said a single word for or against this specific argument: >>59608659you:>THEN WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT WHOLE TIME???You have clearly been arguing with a strawman of your own making this whole time.
>>59608864It was a massive headache but I read this entire thread but I agree you are the weirdest poster I have ever seen outside schizo shit. take from that what you will, i don't expect it will be much
>>59608877Checked and agreed. Have spelled out specific weirdness multiple times. Well past being a loop at this point.
>>59608877>>59608881Ok so show me where I ever argued a single word against this >>59608659
>>59608886>>59607234Was never really the core of it but I never really claimed you did. Here you claimed it "is" a security when sold by Ripple (not true or within the purview of the case, only argued for a specific type of transaction from a specific past period of time).Here you claimed the security status of XRP itself was implicated:>>59607413>>59607290Here I reply affirming exactly what you claim was always your position and it set off 40+ replies back and forth from you claiming opposition with you pivoting your argument about 20 replies in. Could post more but not gonna spend 20 minutes digging it all and this is way more than sufficient to portray what you said vs. what you claim you said.
>>59608942>I never really claimed you didkekI said I never argued against that, and your response was "Then what the fuck are you even talking about?"This shows you thought I was arguing that point.
>>59608823But the node operators aren't paid on the XRP network? So why do you make this attack on nano?
>>59608886If you weren't arguing against it, as said, you never had a point and given it is extremely obvious you used it as a cover story post-changing argument, it is super weird you thought it was a potent cover story and made sense as a thing to be arguing in context of me originally correcting the OP and you disagreeing with it saying it did affect the general non-security status of XRP and before I even replied claiming it "affected almost all of them" given Ripple's institutional sales. Lol
>>59608960>If you weren't arguing against it, as said, you never had a pointNo, I just never argued that point.Ever.
>>59608877Think LogicallyHe Is The Weirdest, Most Artificial PosterWhat Is He Most Aggressively Opposed To ?Nano.That's It.That's The AnswerWhat You Do With This InformationIs Up To You
>>59608946I literally portrayed your pivot and hypocrisy in argument-the point is the only even hypothetical point you could have had was if the tokens themselves were permanently materially transformed to securities. Which I never took for granted you to mean but addressed in case you did and since you are saying you didn't, per the rest of >>59608942 which you deliberately completely ignored because it objectively proves you wrong, you objectively had no point and objectively argued many different things at many different points and it is unclear why you are arguing at all given now you are just conceding to stating exactly wha at everyone correcting the objectively false OP pic (which you defended against me) have already known and thought since the appeal was filed and throughout the original lawsuit was the claim.
>>59608987>the only even hypothetical point you could have had was if the tokens themselves were permanently materially transformed to securitiesI never once said or implied this.
>>59608959Why do YOU think the XRP network isn't vulnerable to spam and crash and node failure the same way? Lol
>>59608965And, again, that was never something I accused you of; it was just the only even hypothetically rational (but factually wrong) line of objection you could even have had despite outright declaring others you denied later post-pivoting
>>59609000>that was never something I accused you ofWhen I say I never argued that point, you replied "Then what the fuck are you even talking about?"This is you accusing me of arguing that point.
>>59608970He was agreeing with me, retard. Unbelievable display of what it means to be a nano investor.
>>59608992Because no one uses it?
>>59608992Does the XRP network not have a max TPS? It does. Therefore, a dedicated bad actor with enough money could definitely spam it.But hang on, why would anyone even run a node on XRPL when there's no incentive? I thought that was bad.
>>59608989see>>59609000Why are you continuing to hang on an extraneous point and ignore the rest of >>59608942? Almost like you are doing so to be disingenuously argumentative for personal reasons derached from fidelity to the truth
>>59605144Stinky Linkies have gotten so butt-blasted that they now have to larp a pretend scenario together that XRP is "currently crashing", when in truth, it's pumping as I type. >>59605185XRP pumped 10% since you posted this.I feel so sorry for you all. It's like looking upon wretched Gollum, writhing around the floor crying. You had YEARS to accumulate The Standard. But you lacked the foresight needed to make it. YNGMI>>59605524God doesn't like impish sadism that provokes others, either, hypocrite.
>>59609005It has been stress tested and had moments of extreme volume it continued generating valid blocks during
>>59609007XRPL can scale to millions of tps using ILP without the node vulnerability vaporware.
>>59609018You agreed that the specific XRP sold to institutions (in the purview of the case) was declared securities.And you now also agree that I never claimed those same XRP were declared such in perpetuity.So how about you give it a rest now.
>>59609002see>>59609000and>>59609018You are literally strawmanning me to avoid touching being proven objectively wrong and accusing me of strawmanning you. Lol Weird. As. Fuck.
>>59609045>proven objectively wrongSays the guy who ended up agreeing with me twice, see >>59609036
>>59609034Nano can scale to millions of TPS without the fees
>>59609036And yet that wasn't the position you came in with before I posted nor the one you greeted me with which I claimed and specifically pointed to you pivoting from with direct reply to where and when. And you keep hanging and strawmanning me on this extraneous point you accuse me of hanging and strawmanning you on (which I never did) despite me saying it was something I peripherally addressed because it was the only even hypothetical thing that would make sense for you to say (despite being factually wrong). Why still avoiding what I am actually saying, for the third time now. Almost like what I have said this whole thread about you engaging in bad faith for reasons of saving face weirdly on an anon forum are completely vindicated! Weird!
The nanojeet piling on as well is very pathetic. He can’t get any traction in xrp threads no matter how much he coopts some riddles so he is reduced to shit like this.
>>59609059I literally posted the quotes from you where you pivoted and then changed to what we have all always said and then pretended it was your original position. Pretending doesn't change immutable documented material reality.
>>59609067Nano can't scale to hundreds of tps without crashing lol Let alone exist as a secure network processing the financial lifeblood of the world's economy against bad actors.
>>59609080100000000%. This whole thread has been derailed into fucking retardation to be honest.
Leaving it here. Anyone post whatever and pretend it is an own or whatever. Done wasting time in this NPC engagement shit. Good luck and good day to everyone!
>>59609118Price is $3.31 and will keep climbing.It’s already far away from when OP was gloating about a ‘crash’.We’ve already won.
>>59609083I never once pivoted.Ripple told people they'd make XRP pump, therefore the XRP sold by Ripple directly was considered securities.The main reason the XRP sold via exchanges to retail weren't securities, was because buyers couldn't know if the XRP came directly from Ripple.
>>59609094The XRP network went down last year lol
>>59609149what's your opinion on nano?
>>59609149weak as fuck try brother.Take the L
This image enrages the linkcel more than the Brad and David cartoon with pink Sirgay
>>59609149>49 posts later>balls deep past ATHYou're like the dude on /pol/ who spergs out every time there's a sam hyde thread.
>>59605185>>59605283How do you feel right now?
