XRP BTFOIts over
>>59612484Vechain is next xrpDana white is friends and with trump
>>59612484>unidentified company>sources say
>>59612484Larsen is a fucking liberal clown. What can you do?
>>59612484>does nothing>takes all the credit
>>59612494my 2 biggest holdings lmao
>>59612516Once normies figure out they can make money walking and using an electric car with vechain it is going to moon
>>59612484Doesn't change the fact that Trump rippled up, check his wallet.
>>59612484Could be relevant if true, but it probably isnt. Gonna need some more to believe that.
>>59612484Also, as he said, we're gonna make so much more because of him, so, fuck it if he's butthurt, we pumping
>>59612484fake and gay. Confirmed by Stuart Alderoty
xrp PAID to have lunch with Trump
make what money the xrp ledger made $500k last year lmao ripples business strategy is to just sell xrp
>>59612484Literal fake news
He also said Chainlink was gonna be used by the fed and that the dollar would be backed by bitcoin and dogecoin>source: I made it up
>>59612504Go on Larson's twitter. He publicly stated giving millions to Kamala Harris, when a few tweets back he criticises the current administration. Dude is a real cuck and could have possibly ruined the company because of his antics.
>>59613342Your pic proves nothing
Fake news
>>59613370Larsen is a personal faggot.>>59613378Lol Desperate. See:>>59613415
>>59613415Lmao that little fucking faggot addresses this fud but never addresses any of the other bullshit like Bank of America and that scum bag on tv or Japan using xrp.
>>59613415Your pic proves nothing
>>59613471nothing proves anythingit's all in your mind
>>59613505I’m being serious you retard What does that tweet actually prove?
>>59612484>experts say
>>59613455Lol What? Neither of those things are even what you suggest. You are the same link spammy who posts 12 threads a week. Holy shit just fucking cope.
>>59613672How about the Chief Legal Officer, who was there who claims it never bhappened and is Trump "whistleblower"-tier rhetoric planted and run by a small crypto blog? You concede this is what he said and then cope by pivoting to crituicism iveer not addressing other things you obsess over but are tertiary things which you misrepresent to even be mad about
>>59613353This
>>59613672>>59613455>>59613471You are taking a small crypto mag which piggybacked an Axios article (which apparently Axios doesn't have the sources for, but "Unchained" have the inside scoop on the Trump team despite not being able to even reach them or Ripple directly for comment and needing to get confirmation of reply by running the piece and getting attention drawn to it) as Proof. Lol But Trump specifically posing for pic with giving a thumbs up and meeting with them multiple times in the last few months and while President and commenting on ending SEC crypto enforcement actions creating a national reserve including them and confirmed comment by the CLO is somehow insubstantial vs. this small blog that can't even reach a PR team without their email getting filtered's anonymous "source." Unbelievably self-servingly dishonest and weak.
>>59613781Piggybacked, as in, took one of their claims that is probably about Amazon or Facebook, and fabricated an anon "source" and tried to ride the coattails of Axios' reputation, despite again, not even being able to reach either PR team.
>>59613786>>59613781>>59613716>>59613713>>596136925 posts in a row. Little xrpie is a bit mad, maybe even panicking and shitting.
>>59614129Thought of more to add and added it. Me writing it in back to back replies is not relevant to the fact the data and reallity agrees with what I say and you avoid disingenuously.
>UnchainedPooya?
>>59612484>Daddy T Remembers.
>>59613415lmao link is such a scam, it's unreal
>>59612534no he didn'tthey sent him xrp like jeet scammers do
>>59612484They deleted the post. Lmfao The state of fudders.
>>59614808good god linkies are pathetic
>>59612484Eric Trump owns BTC, ETH, SOL and SUI. No XRP.
>>59612484>unidentified company>sources saykys nigger
>>59614973isn't he also the retarded one of the litter?
>>59613692>link spammy his name is fishy catfish
>>59614973Includes =/= Comprises, fudfaggot.
>>59613692This guy is genuinely unhinged with his imaginary war with some linkie lmao
>>59615177Imagine thinking a ledger that transacted over a trillion dollars total is bad because it costs a percentage of a cent to transact each time.
>>59615487Tell it to the crowd.
>>59615610KEEEEEK
>>59615610Tell it to the current price action. What I said is objectively true. You having a hard time coping with it is irrelevant and meaningless to me (actually I enjoy it if anything).
>>59615631>Tell it to the current price actionWhich is caused by Ripple themselves. No one uses the chain, theres no reason to buy the token lol The picture is objectively true. Its a Defi dicsussion. Xrp is there. No one else is. Because no one cares about XRPL.
>>59615487It costs banks literally nothing to send value over their own private chains
>>59615644Dude you literally just repeat the same shit and get owned in every single thread on every single point and then spam same in a dozen more threads for (You)s in a single week. Such a fucking waste of time it is unreal. No longer filling the NPC loop with you. Lol
>>59615487Which big European or American monetary instutions did these transactions? You can even tell me about east asian ones to make it easierThey generate no revenue except selling tokens lmao>>59615631DUUUUUDE sick gains you got to 2018 levels, a whopping 5x from the crab range in the last 7 years where no one made money
>>59615655>you have to be the same guy ive been talking to this whole week! Youre actually an imbecile. You have no rebuttal to any of my points because you know theyre true. The crowd speaks for itself. No one gives a fuck about XRP. The price action doesn't mean shit for actual adoption.
>>59615655Look how the xerpie scurries away as soon as you bring up the simple fact that xrp has no users.
>>59615670Yah they call you a bot, and run away. They should have just not posted and run away, it means the same thing.
OH CRIPPLIES!...
>>59615666Satan digis.You are a seething disingenuous faggot. I have literally argued with you in 10 threads in the last week and 2 in the last day alone and you brought up the same points and lost every time and then you rinse repeat create new threads and say the same thing. The only new thing you said is that they very low attendance in a random event none of us had ever even heard of where David was invited. So what? Lol This is just as meaningless as your usual weird sophistical cope.
>>59615678He LITERALLY says the exact same things thread after thread. No one is running, it is just really inorganic and unending and weird as fuck and deserves to be called such. He posts the same 3-4 things in almost every xsg and starts a dozen threads a week always posting the same things in the same way, gets owned on those things, and then pretends it never happened and posts the same objections again and gets owned in the same process. It is 100000% he is a paid poster or the weirdest faggot of all time
>>59615685What disingenuous about facts? Ranked 55 in Defi for a TVL of 70m. lol kek. The crowd is actually a perfect metaphor for their network adoption
>>59615646Great, their own chains aren't decentralized permissionless, trustless public ledgers capable of bridging walled gardens with corridor/currency irrespective deep liquidity with no currency/counterparty risk. No one thought banks would not continue to have internally private ledgers and this has been a huge part of the XRP bull case since the beginning, often said by David himself.
>>59615702You mention TVL talking about a currency that was deliberately designed to not have native smart contracts like it is meaningful. It makes no sense whatsoeover, has nothing to do with even success of the Ripple bullcase and is a completely arbitrary metric you chose because it sounds good to people who have no idea what you are claiming.
>>59615704>their own chains aren't decentralized permissionless, trustless public ledgers capable of bridging walled gardens with corridor/currency irrespective deep liquidity with no currency/counterparty riskneither is XRPL. kek
>>59615704>their own chains aren't decentralized permissionlessNeither is XRPL>capable of bridging walled gardenslmaoXerp's version of "bridging walled gardens" is to believe literally everyone will stay in one big walled garden called XRPL
>>59615716>deliberately designed to not have native smart contractsThis is why its going to fail. Theyre trying to keep it alive by pumping the token which has nothing to do with its actual adoption.
>>59615718Yes it is. You not liking this for your own coin obsession and finding companionship in this thread specfically with who is literally beyond a shadow of a doubt the most time intensive spammer on this entire board who agrees with your investment thesis (take from that what you will) and gets owned in every thread doesn't change material reality. Cope healthier.
>>59615724It is decentralized and permissionless. The second part of your post makes no sense becausee the first part is objectively false.
>>59615732>The second part of your post makes no sense becausee the first part is objectively false.XRP can't bridge anything.And you xerpies think the solution is that everyone will simply adopt XRPL and no other chains.
>>59615726And yet the course of narrative surrounding XRP hasn't been: >Day 1 they decide to optimize transaction volume capabilities to build out internet of value >First interview are laughed out of commission and zero funding raised because of this decision The XRP bullcase has always been this and you are deliberately starting with a metric that they aren't even trying to fill out and claiming it is proof they are not succeeding. Extremely disingenuous.
>>59615682Some of them bagheld for six years just to break even. LMAO
>>59615740XRP can interoperate between anything. They are literally on the Bank for International Settlements' (central bank of central banks (only crypto company on it)) Interoperability Committee for this reason. Using Interledger Protocol XRPL can literally scale indefinitely in terms of tps using payment channels (limited literally only by hardware (not software) capacity to process) and can link any asset to any asset and settle the transaction in seconds for less than a penny. They are already used by multiple of the world's largest payment companies to do just this using Ripplenet and will be even more successful as Interledger Protocol broadens use in new payments messaging/settlement through Mojaloop, W3C etc., which is it.
>>59615753It would have been hard to buy the original top. Most bought probably when it crabbed around .48 for months-years. I bought most at .17 and then bought more at .48 as I got more money to buy.
>>59615748>The XRP bullcase has always been this and you are deliberately starting with a metric that they aren't even trying to fill outThen why is he talking about Defi at a conference? >>59615610
>>59615770"Defi" isn't synonymous with "smartcontract."
>>59615779lol
>>59615799You can cope however you want, you are objectiveliy wrong and either you know it and are being disingenuous or you just learned this and don't know what to say, which is funnier.
>>59615764>XRP can interoperate between anything.It can't interoperate between anything.What you're talking about is people (semi-)manually transacting on XRPL. Which they can do on any chain.>They are already used by multiple of the world's largest payment companiesThey are used by zero payment companies.
>>59615806Youre the one coping dude.
>>59612484fake and gay nice try
>>59615814It objectively can. See:https://x.com/DrewDeVilbiss/status/1856144260472459415Particularly using Interledger.You challenge this in every thread. They are used by the largest panafrican payments gateway in the world with over 500 million wallets in a 12 trillion dollar market, partnered with the biggest player, Onafriq. They own a 40% stake in and are used by the "Moneygram of the east" Tranglo and others, for both, connecting payments for each. Why pretend you didn't hear this and get owned on this in 20 other threads in this week alone? Onafriq.com.
>>59615849Name one thing I am substantively wrong on. You can't. You are just emotional about your investment and insubstantially justified believing what you do but feeling emboldened among likewise-motivated faggots. Not meaningful
>>59615913>>59615814As you can see, it is capable of interoperating between networks in general, not just blockchains, though also any blockchains, as a liquidity bridge from anything to anything. And it can programmatically work offline.
>>59612523kek buying now based on this string of posts.
>>59615913>>59615924He's talking about using bridges to get assets on XRPL Dex.This is something that doesn't exist yet for XRPL, but has existed for a long time for countless other chains.Holy shit stop what you're doing and look at yourself.>You challenge this in every thread. So now I'm the anon you've been having epic battles with in all those other threads?
>>59615945>So now I'm the anon you've been having epic battles with in all those other threads?Nah man it was me too! >>59615919You think banks and institutions are going to adopt a single chain.
>>59615945It's funny how people that never do any business at all, then discuss business as if they had experience, simply because they threw money at a token.Literally no one cares what other things can do.
>>59615967>Literally no one cares what other things can do.Yah bro competition doesn't matter! Its all just a psyop!
>>59615945You literally use the exact same language and say the exact same thing in the exact same wording and post the exact same pictures every time. He is literally, in his own words, talking about using the dex to interoperate across blockchains, which again, using ILP, can be used to interoperate across non-blockchain networks as well. Not sure you understood what you watched? >>59615960I think they will adopt many chains and interoperate across one for massively mutual incentive solving Triffin's Dilemma and counterparty risk/payments friction and rent seeking etc. and massively increasing money velocity and enabling a new era of micro-capable payments.
>>59615967It's funny how people who know nothing comment about commenting on things to deflect from the point they have no information and nothing to say while still portraying themselves as deserving to be recognized as having erudition and awareness. It is like one 10 IQ rhetorical rung above correcting grammar when you are losing on ideas but just as insubstantial.
>>59615988>I think they will adopt many chains and interoperate across one for massively mutual incentive solving Triffin's DilemmaUsing CCIP right?
>cripple fags trusted jewcoin Kek. How many times do you dumbfucks need to fall for the same scam before you learn?
>>59616007For payments on SWIFT, sure. CCIP doesn't settle payments using LINK, it opens up the possibility of public blockchain settlement, using any chosen blockchain, like XRPL for instance. Lol Link provides data feeds to a particular interbank messaging network which is syncing up payments but as it stands now is basically literally a 70s era payments chat network that settles nothing, which is hard to understand how will be extremely needed in the era of ISO 20022 real time payments and online banking etc. They are updating their system but it is not really that big of a deal to be honest.
>>59616008You are literally self-satisfiedly patting yourself on the back for falling for something proven to be fake news which has since been deleted hours ago. The absolute state.
>>59612494check b3tr anon. the foundation about to send this to valhalla
>>59616040 it opens up the possibility of public blockchain settlement, using any chosen blockchain, like XRPL for instance.XRPL will be competing with hundreds of chains and not one swift bank has ever shown interest in XRPL. Wishful thinking.
>>59616076Which is exactly what I said and meant. But my main point is that SWIFT is not the strangleheld super giant it was, and increasingly is less important these sorts of solutions build out. I am not investing planning on SWIFT adoption as much as I am investing planning on SWIFT obsoletion. They may not use XRP, they for absolute sure will not use LINK to move value.
>>59616093>But my main point is that SWIFT is not the strangleheld super giant it wasYeah that why the XRP community spent years trying to associate Ripple with Swift. >they for absolute sure will not use LINK to move value.They can use any private or public chain, but they always need chainlink.
>>59616047You bought a 100% premined jewcoin, lower your tone when speaking to humans
>>59615982People make deals. Not technology or shitcoins.The capability of some podunk shitcoin with neckbearded faggots running it and insisting that other neckbearded faggots also get to run it is not a selling point to real businesses.t. real business owner>>59616006No, what I said is actually funny because we are on the /biz/ forum and literally only like 1% is actually engaged in business activity.You are not in that 1% obviously. So I laugh heartily.
>>59616107Not sure what you've been reading but have been in xsg for years and the whole thesis was always that Ripple would replace SWIFT and were a competitor. SWIFT can use LINK for data price feeds and feed revenue to the company for the subscription service-this is not really that big of a deal for anyone who isn't a private investor in the company and in no way translates to a huge investment prospect for the link token itself. That is my point. You want to invest in the actual movement of value, not the broad case use with very little impact to cost of the token as things are currently structured.
Guys, I am getting nervous. I thought we were flipping ETH and then BTC this month. Right now BTC is pumping, ETH is holding but XRP is going down...
>>59616116It was premined to solve the inefficiencies of bitcoin. Eth had a premine ICO can distributed 90+% of tokens to Wangxiang (CCP) and Joseph Lubin. At least the XRPL does not gradually centralize and literally require centralized L2s to be even remotely useable. XRP scales as L1 and has a built in dex. Eth is the key to a more advanced version of the fully gated financial system we currently have. Bitcoin is better but similarly is very and increasingly concentrated in mining and requires shitty centralized and risky L2s to scale. I'll take financial freedom with superior tech. Ethgate, extremely adversarial to XRP Vitalik himself said XRP is better sound money than BTC and said they are not even trying to build out the internet of value and that Ripple is. Satoshi said he found btc to be the only other interesting network and that it is decentralized.
>>59616127Again, you comment about commenting because you have no comment but refuse to accept the level of ego commensurate with your basis of "having something to say." Find real meaning ASAP...
>>59616167I started a bookstore as a side hobby that piggybacks off of my real business and teenagers come in to buy old westerns in my paperback section.And another guy comes in and buys books for his church every week.Cope harder. But then, once coped, pick yourself up by your bootstraps (I know you don't have work boots but just go with me) and do something besides complaining online.
>>59616158Satoshi said he found XRP* to be the only other...
>>59616174You started a small business bookstore and think that qualifies you to talk about payment systems because you have a boomer tier entitlement complex about having made something despite doing nothing actually difficult. Find real meaning.
>>59616093You really do not understand link. Look at the recent ccip v1.5 release with cross-chain tokens. Link/ccip moves value and *data*. Link will be able to move RWA tokens from the dex to any chain (and the subsequent coupon payments).>It's funny how people who know nothing comment about commenting on things to deflect from the point they have no information and nothing to say while still portraying themselves as deserving to be recognized as having erudition and awareness
>>59616133>Ripple would replace SWIFT and were a competitor.Sure it was bro. Its whatever your retard community could come up with to hype up Ripple. https://timestabloid.com/swift-mentions-xrp-as-bridge-currency-for-over-11000-banks/https://www.binance.com/fr-AF/square/post/14827102099978>You want to invest in the actual movement of value, not the broad case use with very little impact to cost of the token as things are currently structured.Maybe chainlink will create their own chain?
>>59616204I am very well aware of it and read the beta test for the buildout using public blockchains. Nowhere does it qualify Link nor does it indicate it technically given it is a lot less efficient for such use, even relative to other public chains I hate, in the Circle ecosystem, say XLM. There is literally no good reason to use link as such and they 100% will not. Not even suggesting there is a 1% chance they use XRP, but there is a 0% chance they will use LINK.
>>59616186>piggybacks off real businessLearn to read please. I have parlayed my money making into teenagers reading old stories about men being badasses and standing strong.>buy boots>get them buy the straps>pull them up
>>59616225>Not even suggesting there is a 1% chance they use XRP, but there is a 0% chance they will use LINK.Youre literally a fucking retard.
>>59616225Wow you sure typed a whole lot and said absolutely nothing lmfao
>>59616208>https://www.binance.com/fr-AF/square/post/14827102099978This is literally just a random post written about how Ripple is moving in on SWIFT noting the time proximity to the exact SWIFT tech developments I cited above wrt public blockchain usability, from October 2024. This does not support your claim or undermine the literal years and years of posts of people saying Ripple eats SWIFT's lunch.>https://timestabloid.com/swift-mentions-xrp-as-bridge-currency-for-over-11000-banks/This is more on the nose and interesting but it is really just a schematic. R3 can absolutely use XRP for their Corda settler though and specifically is set up for quick use of XRP and XDC if I remember correctly. R3 I think wanted a large chunk (5 billion I think) of XRP given to them by Ripple which Ripple refused, so they got upset. Identitii also named Ripple in their patent assisting the ISO payments migration, which caused the price of XRP to pump on the news and the CEO of Identitii commented on, but this is still not a definite confirmation of use. Definitely interesting though!https://x.com/IOV_OWL/status/1166752923914838016
>>59615988>He is literally, in his own words, talking about using the dex to interoperate across blockchainsFuck you're clueless.He's talking about getting shit on the xrpl Dex via bridges. Which you can't do yet, this is something he wants to do in the future.And it's also something pretty much every other chain has already been able to do for YEARS.It's a joke. A really funny joke.
>>59616247You absolutely are a boomer who has not pulled a bootstrap in your life but defines themselves by having. No one finds it deep or interesting or impressive or thinks you are cool or a role model. Everyone cringes at this shit and if you are married your wife thinks it is gay as fuck outside whatever actual help is conveyed to kids (the attitude and self-reward is gay). Find. Real. Meaning.
>>59616260You said very little and said nothing. Why do you even comment, when all you say is quippy end oriented reasoning emotional ejaculation without any substance whatsoever?
>>59616293My kid comes to work and pulls a wagon around selling water bottles to employees for wooden nickels.Just take some advice and really reflect on what you are doing here.Read back your own comments and then reflect on them. Why are they so seething?What am I getting from this?Why do I see someone actually doing something and feel the need to say it's not doing anything and not real?Godspeed to you.
>>59616282Revisit the part where he talks about how one of the first use cases was to do exactly this for bitcoin. The ledger is capable of it and given the ledger specifics (autobridging, pathfinding, etc.) is especially disposed to do so for any chain that wants to. It is interoperable and waiting for build by any interested parties, having already been used as such very early.
>>59616313That is great, I am happy for him. His dad is still a undeservedly smug, soft handed faggot who thinks he is a badass pillar of community and titan of business. You know jack shit about business. I built and sold my first business before I turned 30 (which I just did recently). You were born in the easiest time ever and barely scraped by and consider your participation award as deserving a permanent winner's circle champagne bath-newsflash, it is just a golden shower you are giving yourself forever until you have a heart attack while grilling.
>>59616320>Revisit the part where he talks about how one of the first use cases was to do exactly this for bitcoinOnly in the form of IOUs. Not actual bridged Bitcoin. See pic.
>>59616335>but there is a 0% chance they will use LINK.You skipped my post. So how is it a 0% percent chance when their platform goes live this year?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vce745hO4jg
>>59616335I'm not a boomer retard.What was the business given you don't own boots?
>>59616348See:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H52tm661H64Also see:https://medium.com/@kincaid/swap-btc-and-eth-in-seconds-keep-your-private-keys-private-554a76c0c574
>>59616400>how this centralized middle man will pretend to make btc payments on your behalfYou can't make this up.
>>59616351What post did I skip? Genuinely asking and didn't mean to? The platform uses link for pricing data and does not specify public blockchain for value transfer, just that it can use a public blockchain. As the other anon and I listed above, there is a lot of >>59616351interesting recent history in patents etc. qualifying the use of XRP as a likelihood but not definitive wrt SWIFT specifically. LINK is fine for price data but extremely inefficient, slow and costly, from a relative standpoint and there is literally zero technical advantage or reason to use it as such. It may be used broadly for price data but that is not the same as being used as a settlement token.
>>59616400Anon, it's time to shut the fuck up.XRPL is a chain, and chains need BRIDGES to interoperate with other chains, and they need ORACLES to interoperate with real-world data.
>>59616417Bro youre just rambling on like a fucking senile retard. You said 0% chance. Its literally 100% chance you fucking dipshit.
>>59616431It is a bot.
>>59616268LINKCELS IN SHAMBLES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59616397I built a construction infrastructure business (specifically televising and repairing mostly storm sewers) and then sold it and structured the sell into a newly formed consultancy advising the people I sold it to as part of the buyout and dealing with customers I knew for over a decade. When I proposed the sale to the company they tried to go behind my back and eat up my business. When my customers would not capitulate and called me letting me know they were trying this I jacked the price up 25% and completed the sale. I did this after working in the industry first as labor and then as a tech operator since I was 16. You have never worked a single day like I used to. Lol
>>59616431I already said they would use it for price feeds. That is not news. Nowhere do they claim to use LINK to settle actual value. Not sure what you are even suggesting or not understanding about what I am saying? I'm not rambling and am being absolutely coherent. Something doesn't become unintelligible just because you find it inconvenient to your investment.
>>59616436What an original accusation. Everyone who disagrees with my investment strategy is a Russian bot! Me! Me! Me!!!
>>59616444Checked
>>59616452I have worked since that age.I have sold over $20M over the years online. So I know about payment systems and the value of better payment processing. I think you are underestimating the demand for volume payment processing and how much grift there is when you send $5-$25k dollars around every day organizing cc payments and making payments for importing.I'm spending $60k a year right now on payment processing here and I am relatively small.It's good you have strong customers in that situation and it worked out well. I don't deal with people and will never sell because fuck them. But they will try to go around your back in as many ways as possible for sure.
>>59616425Never said they didn't? You aren't even disagreeing with what I am claiming. Even Ripple are using Chainlink for their pricing data feeds on their specifically Eth portion of their RLUSD. That doesn't mean they are using link to settle and move value (they definitively are not). Btw if interested in something really cool on the topic of interoperability and native oracles, check out XRP cousin chain Flare! It is extremely interesting. I own a very little (less than a thousand dollars) of it and have very little financial incentive to tell you about it. It is is just an extremely interesting and useful and comlementary chain!
>>59616461>I already said they would use it for price feedsYoure still wrong.
>>59616503I'm absolutely not underestimating that and actually am basing my entire investment on that being something big and small businesses (aside for the businesses that make money off those frictions) would choose to not pay if they had an easy route to. The entire thesis is the cannibalization of rent seekers and forced-starvation of the inefficient parasite driving this, leading to a micro-payment capable extremely inexpensive uber-liquid currency-risk stripped internetwork solution that benefits everyone, especially the little guys specifically weighed down by the rent seekers, whether businesses or small regional banks unable to technically operate in the same ways that the big correspondent banks can.
>>59616512How?
>>59616557This is exactly correct.
>>59616508>Never said they didn't?You said "XRP can interoperate between anything" and when I said this involves semi-manual operations (i.e. writing IOUs on the XRPL Dex) you tried to debunk it.XRPL is a chain, and all chains need bridges and oracles to interoperate.If XRPL can "interoperate between anything" then all chains can. Reality is that none can. Which is exactly why they need bridges and oracles.
>>59616575People don't really care now about what you are saying.The first shoe to drop is just USD to USD payment friction and grift.Just plain old and simple ODL.
>>59616562In what world is CCIP price feeds?
>>59616575see second link in>>59616406ILP can do all of this and is optimized using Ripplenet which is optimized using XRP. It was literally created by the Ripple team to solve the scalability problem for transaction volume for big banks and institutions at their request after they asked for it when Ripple presented their original institutional product to them a decade ago and then gifted to the Mojaloop Foundation, W3C, etc. Further, even without ILP, XRP is literally already used to bridge different fiat networks using Ripple's current product "Ripple Payments" (previously xRapid, then Ripplenet). The objection you are making is not valid and it is demonstrably already happening to bridge disparate networks for billions of dollars a year.
>>59616605I never said that. I said Link's role in it is only that. CCIP opens the door to public blockchain setttlement. Nowhere does it claim to move value using link nor would it make any technical sense to. Link is useful for price data but it is not even top 10 most efficient as a settlement vehicle.
>>59616623>but there is a 0% chance they will use LINK.Yes they will, theyre testing CCIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vce745hO4jg>I already said they would use it for price feeds.Youre still wrong.>howIn what world is CCIP price feeds?>I never said that.Youre literally a fucking moron.
>>59616638I never said they weren't. Actually I specifically cited their pilot, which the anon above mentioned XRP in terms of completely outside my suggestion. Sorry, I did misspeak, I meant to say SWIFT's GPI product, not CCIP, which is used. SWIFT's application platform was piloted as being non-public blockchain specific in how it moves value. So far there is no agreement to move value using link and it literally makes no sense for them to use it given other, even same ecosystem options (again, like XLM, which I hate)
>>59616616>ILP can do all of thisThat's not the fucking point.XRPL needs bridges and oracles to interoperate with literally anything.Just like literally every chain.
Gotta go, bros. Will try to check back in later and reply to anything if I have time before the thread dies. Enjoy your days and wgmi!
>>59616696Just saw this after posting, >>59616702,I never claimed it didn't and specifically claimed opposite. That doesn't mean it cannot be used as an interoperable bridge to disparate networks of fiat and blockchain, as it already is and as it is suggested by banks and payment institutions and the Interledger Foundation itself to be. Okay, really do gotta go now. Will try to check back in end of day if time permitting/thread remains open!
That's the deal killer with Trump, he is just so fucking corrupt and crony. Even if you like his big government protectionist / left wing economic policies he is too corrupt to even implement them in a way to benefit you. Thank god I retired off crypto and made it out of this rat race.
>>59616720>I never claimed it didn'tYou literally said "XRPL can interoperate".It can't. It needs bridges and oracles to do that.
>>59616738Check this article out. It can be used as the liquidity bridge which interoperates, as the most efficient option using ILP.https://medium.com/xpring/layer-3-is-for-interoperability-ca387fa5f7e2
>>59616813in a* bridge
>>59616725Trump is the least corrupt and most based politician the world has ever seen, remember to do a flip will ya?
>>59616813>It can be used as the liquidity bridge Any chain can.
>>59616816>>59616813>5 years agoand now we know Banks never wanted to use this system.
Any blockchain system designed to efficiently only move Legacy fiat to Legacy fiat is too short sighted and is doomed to be replaced. The reason for this is that you have to trust something centralized instead of the ledgers of the users.This is the main problem with XRPL and what the OP ignores. Once bank ledgers are verifiable through oracles transactions will be *trust-less*. With oracles verifying the +/- it doesn’t matter what chains are being used because an agreed upon messaging system for data is all that is needed. Fuck, if there only was already a messaging system that 11,000 banks already use and trust, that system would only need to be appended to use the oracles. Maybe some already trusted partner, idk like the DTCC or Euroclear, just spitballing here, could help maintain privacy of their ledgers. If data can be transferred then across chains via that messaging service, then woah, a bond token and coupon payments can be routed to user’s ledger in a truly automatic and interoperable way. Nah, let’s just use fiat to fiat and trust ripple. They seem to know that banks using them are their success story
>>59614808FUCKING KEEEEEKKKKK
>>59616813>it's Ripple's positionkek
Lost all my gains in this gigadump. What a shitcoin. No recovery, only red coin on the market, rip to my gg
>>59616891Payment companies presently connect banks using the system to the tune of billions, as mentioned to you earlier in thread
>>59616875XRP is the most efficient possible one using ILP. Btc and eth are both at the moment provided for in it but are not themselves competitive with it. The tech stack is built on the XRP ledger's core functionality.
>>59617014>XRP is the most efficientAll chains say this
>>59616955>Gigadump
>>59617022I am not saying it is due to my arbitrary preference. I am saying ILP was literally built to be optimized using specifically it as its transactional currency as a higher layer buildout on its technology. Also no other currency can offer international pooled ODL, which Ripple hold the international patent on.
>>59616955You must have bought when Portnoy did. Not XRP's failing. kek
>>59616902Ripple isn't limited technically to fiat to fiat as already mentioned and the base currency used for ILP of general settlement is not arbitrary and specifically ILP is most optimized using XRP, which on ILP can scale to more transactions per second than our economy could hypothetically generate. GPI is not this scale or type of technology. Financial messaging is not really that profound or challenging or limiting, especially since the format update in ISO 20022. This is really sort of a big reason SWIFT has no advantage. No one is saying oracles can't or won't be used, that doesn't translate to the oracle native token being used to settle value though. And it would make very little sense for an eth L2 specifically to be used, so little there is no way it would be. You wouldn't use Bitcoin to buy a drink at a gas station. You wouldn't use an eth L2 to process billions of yearly payments. I don't think you understand what technologies you are comparing
>>59617425Also, as Bob Way said, now is the time when institutions needing to migrate will opt to update disproportionately vs. times they have no external necessity to make any major systems updates, especially given the specific change ISO 20022 messaging represents and what it opens
>>59617425No where did I say link itself would process the payments. Assuming that is what link is for is ridiculous as well. I don’t think you understand the technologies you are comparing, as you don’t even touch on the main premises of my post. The world won’t run on ripple, at best a few banks or payment processors will until they realize they’re in a closed single chain ecosystem and want to buy tokenized bonds. Even then, they’re competing in adjacent spaces, one just makes the other irrelevant.
>>59612494Vechain will 30x from where it currently is.
The same Unchained podcast that said alt coin reserve was just rumors and got btfo? Theyre Bitcoin maxis and dont know shit
>>59612484>>59612494>>59612509>>59615913i'm honestly so sick and fucking tired of this pathetic ass sniffing on trump/elon/whatever other authority/popular figure a lot of you do to try and minmaxx your gains. whatever happened to discussing why X tech coin is better than Y? whatever happened to organic, honest shitcoin markets, using DEXT and similar to find new shit? honest banter between rival coins that tried to solve the same problem/had the same market appeal? now everything is based around hype and who said what about which coin. it's fucking retarded and corny. who gives a fuck what these faggots say about anything crypto and who gives a fuck about some unfunny reddit tier meme going le viral on twitter?crypto is the same old tired bullshit but it adapted not in real, tangible usefulness but in its stupidity. most of this shit just feels obnoxious nowadays.
>>59618274I literally showed how they can be used as liquidity to bridge any network more efficiently than any other network can. This isn't a meaningful reply to what I said.
