I'm cycling my profits from TRUMP into something. I could either go back into ETH and have tripled my stack, or I'm going to buy 700k KAS. Tell me /biz/, is this project actually worth the investment or is it just a bubble? I think a year of crabbing actually is pretty bullish from here.
>>59656282and also a year of crabbing means that the future Binance and Coinbase listings which are definitely happening at some point will pamp it.KAS gets 200-300m volume per day, ain't no chance that Binance and Coinbase don't want a piece of that.
>>59656282Eth bad, dont buy, putin coin saar!
>>59656282discord deleted logsend of thread
>>59656364I've had ETH staked for nearly 2 years buddy
>>59656364I just mean I don't really want to buy any more of it>>59656395elaborate.
>>59656282This is one of the most hated on coins in crypto for some reason which doesn’t make sense to me because you have coins like LTC and BCH which are basically obsolete forms of the same technology.I have around 200k kas. I bought most of it in 2023 for cheap and I’ve held onto it expecting it to go up a lot more but it has mostly crabbed which is disappointing. I don’t know of many other networks that are going in the right direction design and philosophy wise. This project at least tries to follow in the design philosophy and technology of BTC and it seems like not only the best technological successor but the best spiritual successor to BTC basically being a continuation of what Satoshi started
>>59656411Israeli/Mossad coin, blockchain was corrupted in early stages, DYOR
>>59656282See faggots, this is why what Trump did was so great. Gave all you cunts a chance to buy good shit like BTC, XRP, ETH at a fucking dip and now people are going to rotate their profits back into other alt and shitcoins propping up those niggers bags. Thanks Trump! Please pump my bags some more.
>>59656462There's a genesis proof that proves the network state never got corrupted even though some of the early transaction history is missing.
>>59656282KAS is a total joke, they have 300 tps and no smart contract. There is no way in hell they will ever be a global currency. It's a scam
>>59656564There's an upgrade planned for March that's going to increase the TPS to 3000. And there's a team working on smart contracts which was given a million dollar grant a month ago by the Kasplex guys.
>>596565793000 tps for a global currency is still nothing and a joke and there is no way a DAG protocol will ever be able to do much better. It's a scam.
>>59656491>>59656579Bob says proof of 'Bobtech' is real and also Bob promises future tech....
>>59656594>3000 tps for a global currency is still nothing and a joke It's about what Solana does. Visa also does around 1700 TPS globally. There's no other PoW network that comes even remotely close to what Kaspa can do. It's literally on par with the fastest crypto networks that exist.>there is no way a DAG protocol will ever be able to do much better. This is completely untrue and you just pulled it out of your ass.
>>59656607You can't fake a mathematical proof - it either checks out or it doesn't.
>>59656282im all in kaspa, have been for a long time. a few months ago i abandoned kaspa and almost lost half my bag, in the end kaspa saved me as i got my bag back by longing kaspa. kaspa is hodl
>>59656282If you want real economic technical cryptocurrencies, take a look at the ETH-CHAINLINK-AMPLEFORTH-SPOT-USDAF it's literally what satoshi nakamoto wanted to
>>59656620I 100% agree with you, you cannot fake a mathematical proof, what you can actually do is fit the math to your needs and have control of a narrative by DELETING OFFICIAL LOGS in a OFFICIAL CHANNEL
>>59656282>Sol is locked up, can't move moneyhmm if only there was a solution >>59656420Because Kaspa has the potential to solve a huge issue in crypto and rock the boat for owner of popular coins with with lots of vested interest. hence aggressive fuddes don't want kaspa to succeed
>>59656693LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
>>59656610>Visa also does around 1700 TPS globallyVisa alone is calibrated for 65 000 tps and they are not aiming to be a global currency.
>>59656693Bitcoin had to be shutdown and restarted because of a chain splitting fork early in its history which allowed people to successfully double spend coins on exchanges.It happened more than once. One time, there was a coin minting glitch due to a value overflow bug that allowed someone to mint billions of BTC on the mainnet. Satoshi had to step it and hard fork the network to fix it.Nobody cares about that today, at all. Because it doesn't matter to current users.I've been hearing for a long time that the kaspa developers supposedly did this on purpose as an elaborate plot to hide a premine, but there's no proof of that from what I can tell. Just an honest mistake that they did their best to fix in as minimally disruptive of a way as possible.
I feel like KASPA is an easy bet right now. It's good tech and relatively unknown while also not coming off as an obvious jeet scam. It's not going to be the future of finance or anything but I feel like a pump to $1 is almost guaranteed. It's worth having a small bag of at the very least
>>59656738Why do you bring up Bitcoin in a Kaspa related thread? If we're talking rationally, logically, what's the point of pointing out flaws in other blockchains?It seems you're moving the goalpost to minimize the fact that we don’t know who the attacker is, or what invalid transactions they mined, your answer if we simplify it isWELL OTHER BLOCKCHAINS HAVE CORRUPT HISTORY TOO INNIT?
>>59656610>There's no other PoW network that comes even remotely close to what Kaspa can do.That's total bullshit. There are so many projects out there doing vastly better and with a fraction of KAS' mcap.
>>59656768>Why do you bring up Bitcoin in a Kaspa related thread? Because I'm a believer in BTC and I think it's a great investment overall - so if something wasn't a dealbreaker there, I don't see it as being a dealbreaker here.>If we're talking rationally, logically, what's the point of pointing out flaws in other blockchains?See above.>It seems you're moving the goalpost to minimize the fact that we don’t know who the attacker is, or what invalid transactions they mined, your answer if we simplify it isYou're simply asserting that the genesis proof is invalid without demonstrating that it is. I believe the genesis proof which shows that no invalid transactions were mined. Why should I believe you that it's a coverup and that invalid transactions were mined?
>>59656771Name one, then. Kaspa is the only PoW network with instant confirmations.
>>59656282My main coin is Kaspa by 80%. I hope when the dust settles down this will keep growing naturally as it has been doing all this time. And the dust will settle down...
>>59656794there is simply no signatures to determine the validity of whatever balances that have coins from the first 6 months after genesis, that is a fact and if we both have the time we can gladly check it together so either we show this thread some actual cryptographic proof, or either you take the loss and accept that Kaspa has a shady background, which is something you HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION if you want to hold this coin, yeah, you can hold Eth or BTC knowing about the past, like the DAO eth hack, but denying and obscure things is simply wrong and you're either in denial or shilling so it can pump
>>59656282Get EOS. Easiest 5x you could ever get.
>>59656794Also, why did the team disincentivize full nodes???? Do you have an explanation for that?Occam's razor points to team colluding with the attacker or it was targeted exactly for openly discouraging full nodes.
>>59656841idk if it's true but why should anyone give a fuck at this point? it's clearly a legit project at this point with great tech
>>59656841>there is simply no signatures to determine the validity of whatever balances that have coins from the first 6 months after genesisYou have a chain of UTXO commitments going all the way back to genesis. UTXO commitments are just as secure as having the full history of transactions, which is why nobody with an understanding of the tech cares that some of the history is missing. The history is designed to get pruned out and deleted over time, leaving behind a chain of UTXO set hashes showing that the current UTXO set wasn't manipulated.If kaspa's pruning doesn't work then the whole network is conceptually garbage - the investment is based on the fact that you can delete history and remain secure. >>59656864They've never been disincentivized, they're just not an important part of Kaspa's design. It's designed to do tens of terabytes worth of transactions per year while remaining decentralized. Deleting transaction history (aka pruning) is ESSENTIAL to the way the kaspa network operates. Only people with data center hardware can save all that history and this goes for every single network around. You know Solana requires you to have hundreds of petabytes of storage for archiving the history - kaspa is built to get around this
>>59656807>Name one, then.I am accumulating and I don't want to have my investments fudded daily on biz by butthurt KAS community. >instant confirmations.Instant and 1 sec does not matter in daily life. It is all about tps and with high tps for you around saturation with 300 tps, it would be less than instant and above that a delay and backlog.
At least the fudster retard is keeping the thread alive I appreciate thatGet ready for $0.50 within the next 30 days WAGMI Kas bros
>>59656934>Instant and 1 sec does not matter in daily life. It is all about tpsNah that's not true at all. Instant transactions make a huge difference to UX. People are not going to switch from Solana to something that runs slower and feels less responsive. Simple as.
>>59656934Also when I said "instant", 1-second confirmations is close enough to be included in that. If you're claiming that there's another proof-of-work network with 1-second confirmation times, I'm pretty sure you're just lying. People with an interest in PoW would be all over that network already.
>>59656902When a network operates without any full nodes, and miners rely solely on recent block history, it becomes possible for a malicious actor to take control and extract dormant coins unnoticed. Given that Kaspa had minimal network participation in its early stages, gaining control would have been straightforward - essentially deploying enough computational power to dominate block production. It's worth noting that Thomas Chen, formerly CTO of HashPeak, joined as an advisor in March 2021 (just weeks before Yonatan's announcement). Once network control is established, the actor can process any number of unauthorized transactions. While initial invalid transfers may be flagged and rejected by existing nodes, with control of 95% of the mining power, the attacker can continue adding legitimate transactions until monitoring nodes begin accepting the chain again. Once these illegitimate transactions are sufficiently embedded in the chain's history, they can be trimmed away while only sharing recent valid block data with the network. This means nodes have no way to detect that certain balances were compromised, as they only verify the latest transaction signatures.Just ask Michael Sutton what happened after itIt's easy to fool the not cryptographic savy
>>59656945>>59656960>Also when I said "instant", 1-second confirmations is close enough to be included in that.OK, then you have several projects far better than KAS. >If you're claiming that there's another proof-of-work network with 1-second confirmation times, I'm pretty sure you're just lying. You have no clue and my experience with nu-/biz/ is that the board is operating more like scam teams and don't take the exposure of their scam lightly. Even just a few years ago, we still had good tech conversations and /biz/ was looking for the best tech and project, regardless of previous bags etc.
>>59656941>At least the fudster retard is keeping the thread alive300 tps, no smart contract and rambling on about global currency. KAS is a scam. You need at least 50K tps, preferable multiple 100K tps and with smart contracts. KAS will never ever do that. You are lucky if you are even able to get sub 5K tps within some years.
>>59656986>kaspa is bad because it's not secure against 95% attacksOkay, I guess that's just the compromise we have to make for having a ledger that stays a constant 40 GB instead of growing by 10 TB a year. Most of the history from back then has actually been recovered and is being archived now, iirc it's less than a week of TX history that's still missing and it's likely that at least one person who joined from Twitter or the Bitcointalk thread during that time would have noticed that kind of fuckery going on. Nobody would put in this much effort to run a scam instead of cashing out years ago.>>59657000>OK, then you have several projects far better than KAS. No you don't, that's why you won't mention them. They don't exist. There are no PoW coins that are faster than KAS. Period.
>>59657044>There are no PoW coins that are faster than KAS. Period.Moron. I never said FASTER you idiot. I said more than 100x tps of KAS, a fraction of your mcap, and still around or sub 1 sec.
>>59656986>When a network operates without any full nodes, and miners rely solely on recent block history, it becomes possible for a malicious actor to take control and extract dormant coins unnoticed. That’s not how it works because the full UTXO set is always known. And in order to “extract” dormant coins, you would have to spend or modify the UTXO entry for those coins which you can’t do without the owner’s keys.
>>59657084They don't exist. Sorry.
>>59657044>There's a genesis proof that proves the network state never got corrupted even though some of the early transaction history is missing.So you were initially stating 'never got corrupted' and arrived to 'that's just the compromise we have to make' once we actually unfold what's happening with Kaspa, although it's not that I agree with your last post since quantifying the amount of % that was attacked is not known, in your POV it's a nothingburger, since your beliefs and investments are obviously in Kaspa, so you will tend to believe and express a positive attitude regards it.For readers and everybody else, I guess they can make their own conclusions based on what we've talked :)
>>59657101That guy is probably talking about proof of shart coins like Taraxa and doesn’t know what proof of work means
>>59657105sar why is the price going up this fud not working...
>>59657105>So you were initially stating 'never got corrupted' and arrived to 'that's just the compromise we have to make' once we actually unfold what's happening with KaspaNo... that's not what happened at all. You're the one claiming that Kaspa got attacked but you have no proof of that whatsoever. What seems to have happened is that the Kaspa chain went down briefly because of a bug, and they had to basically patch two forks back together along with a small proof showing that nothing was modified in between.There's no proof of a conspiracy, there's no proof of an attack, that's just some shit you made up to FUD.
>>59657117I don't care about price or fud talk, I care about utility and real world use cases based on factual objective, cryptographic valid chains, there are thousands of L1s out there, be grateful whoever reads this that you managed to identify a possible bag holding scenario
>>59657110>That guy is probably talking about proof of shart coins like TaraxaNo that is also a scam with dev team obviously not able to deliver and zero stress testing of their network or substantiating their crazy tps claims.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484150.40BUYERS BEWARE DYORDYORDYORDYOR
>>59657160thank you for looking out for us sar !
>>59657101>They don't exist. Sorry.Again, you have no clue, newfag. Do some basic research, faggot. You sound more and more like a scammer.
>>59657185That's "Kaspa Classic", a scam fork of Kaspa that has nothing to do with the actual project. Ironic that you tell others to DYOR but you're so caught up in your mission to FUD that you overlook basic details like this.
>>59657189I've looked at all the PoW coins out there that are currently being mined. None of them have sub-second confirmations or huge TPS numbers like you're claiming.
>>59656282700k? You’re going to be rich, I’m jealous I can only afford about 1700 Kas right now.
>>59657217Sure you have, and you are also the moron scammer rambling on about super Jewy 300 tps project will be the future of global micro payments. What a joke.
Massive pump will happen very soon (or it`s already happening)
>>59657252Again, they don't exist, and nobody believes this "I'm still accumulating" thing. You're just making up BS to FUD kaspa, as people often do. Get a life dude.
>>59657269Why do they? It’s sad, do they think that because they made a post talking crap about a project that the entire planet will move? If these dumb asses ignore a project based off their hatred for the race of the developer they most likely don’t have the brains to see the project for what it is and desu their opinion shouldn’t even be taken seriously.
>>59657269Just look at your super emotional and very defensive posts. Only an idiot would tell you his portfolio while pointing out your obvious scam. >You're just making up BS to FUD kaspaDo you have double-digit IQ? I am using YOUR data 300 tps and I am just pointing out the obvious that there is NO way in hell a 300 tps project will ever be a global currency, BTC is a store of value and not a daily life currency for micropayments. Even if your claim of a future 3000 tps came into fruition it would be absurdly underdimensioned as a global currency must at least have 40K tps at the bare minimum. KAS is a Jewish scam.
>>59657330>Do you have double-digit IQ? I am using YOUR data 300 tps and I am just pointing out the obvious that there is NO way in hell a 300 tps project will ever be a global currencyIt's about to be 10x and eventually 100x that much. It would be easy to get Kaspa to handle 60k TPS right now. The same architecture could handle it because there is nothing inherent about the algorithm that caps it out at 300 or 3000 tps, retard. Increasing it just require stronger minimum hardware and more bandwidth, which would make it less decentralized. Why force that right away instead of waiting until adoption/technology get to the point where it makes sense?
Kaspa can do 3,000 TPS on 10-year-old consumer hardware while Solana requires $300/mo data center nodes to provide the same throughput. If you can't see how this is a major step forward for crypto then you're ngmi
>>59657330KAS will have stable 3000 tps by may, they have plans for 100 bps, even maybe 250 bps in the far future. solana did 4000 tps this weekend and it shat the bed hardkaspa tps ath is over 1000 tps, and the network still didn't crash, just got congested for a few hoursthere's a reason why kaspa is the only coin besides bitcoin that marathon mineswhy don't they mine some of those coins you hold? they would mine a fuck ton for sure anon
>>59657084>>59657189>>59657330>Moron!! Idiot!! Newfag! You’re being so defensive and emotional, unlike me!
>>59657397>Moron!! Idiot!! Newfag! You’re being so defensive and emotional, unlike me!Kvetching Jewish scammer. >>59657354>It would be easy to get Kaspa to handle 60k TPS right now. Sure scammer, but for some absurd unknown reason you never did and must deal with pathetic 300 tps in the real world instead.>Kaspa to handle 60k TPS right now. The same architecture could handle it because there is nothing inherent about the algorithm that caps it out at 300 or 3000 tps, retard.No your DAG protocol is very inefficient and a 60 tps load would crash any known hardware it is, with a sufficient decentralization. Team knows this and that is why they don't even try it or do any kind of stress testing. Why would they? They can just say whatever to you scammer guys and you will parrot it forever. What do you care? When did you ever care about the truth? KAS really looks and sounds like a scam. The posts here are pathetic and confirming>>59657396>they have plans for 100 bps, even maybe 250 bps in the far futureThey are scammers when they claim that. They know it will never ever happen with that protocol. They don't have the tech. Just go to ETH devs and ask them. KAS devs are second-rate and scammers.
>>59657375>Kaspa can do 3,000 TPS on 10-year-old consumer hardwareOK, document that claim. Give me hard empirical data.
>>59657461I guess that this shareef don't like it
>>59657026Yes yes, Rakeeesh, we know that you didn't buy early, go back to your village and feed the cows your bullcrap
>>59657624>>59657628Aaaaand of course I got the usual scammer bullshit as response. Nice documentation of your claims scammers, and take your pathetic 300 tps and insane claim about being a global micropayment service and stuff it up your ass, dishonest Jewish scammers.
>>59656282Whats the best place to buy this shit and store it?
>>59658002depends where you're from. kraken probably. store it on kaspium on your phone. write down the seed
>>59657461>Sure scammer, but for some absurd unknown reason you never did and must deal with pathetic 300 tps in the real world instead.The "absurd reason" is because they want it to run on cheap hardware, like I just explained.>No your DAG protocol is very inefficient and a 60 tps load would crash any known hardware it is, Where the fuck do you get this nonsense from? Kaspa already does 300 TPS proven>Team knows this and that is why they don't even try it or do any kind of stress testing. Why would theyDude you need to do a modicum of research. I know you remember the kasplex launch where kaspa did 15 million transactions in a single day and sustained 300 TPS for over 24 hours>>59657472>OK, document that claim. Give me hard empirical data.You can use the 10 BPS node right now. The test network has been live for over a year and has processed several billion transactions in that time. It syncs on cheap hardware and has remarkably low storage and bandwidth requirements for what it does. They spent a lot of time optimizing the software so that it's extremely lightweight and efficient. But if they wanted to, and if they had a different philosophy, they could simply increase the hardware demands and the block size to allow for 60k tps. But they don't do that because it wouldn't be able to run on a home computer if they did.
On the day of the Kasplex launch October 22 KAS did 15M transactions in a day which is a world record for a proof of work network. No other PoW mainnet has ever processed that many transactions in 24 hours. And that's on 1BPS which is about to be replaced with 10BPS aka 10x more throughput and speed.
>>59657234Bought it about an hour ago. Best investment I can think of in crypto right now.
>>59658002Kraken or KDX local wallet or kaspanet has a webwallet too.Kraken was easiest for me
>>59657461>They are scammers when they claim that. They know it will never ever happen with that protocol. They don't have the tech. Just go to ETH devs and ask them.You’re retarded if you think this.ETH was able to speed up its confirmation times and double its TPS because it used the last-gen work of Kaspa’s founder (GHOST). Kaspa’s founder is cited in the Ethereum whitepaper and Vitalik has name dropped him many times. Now it’s 10 years later and the same guy has figured out how to get pretty much unlimited block rate on proof of work.
>>59657663>>59657472>>59657461>>59656564hahaha shut the fuck up >>59658415Curbstomp a mod on your way home today.
>>59658415>The "absurd reason" is because they want it to run on cheap hardware, like I just explained.No, that is the excuse they give to idiot scammers like you. KAS is broken on a protocol level and will never ever be able to become a global currency. Team knows it and they also know that they are not good enough devs to ever have a functioning project, so instead they give this lie that "sure KAS is unsuable, and will never function, but that is only because we care about the small people like you goyim, so you can run KAS on shit hardware, trust me, he, he, he". >Where the fuck do you get this nonsense from? Kaspa already does 300 TPS provenI obviously meant 60K tps. >sustained 300 TPS for over 24 hoursGlobal currency, micropayments. It's a joke. What idiots pushed KAS to current mcap?>The test network has been live for over a year OK, give me the data and documentation then, for:>Kaspa can do 3,000 TPS on 10-year-old consumer hardwareBut you can't.
>>59658415> they could simply increase the hardware demands and the block size to allow for 60k tpsThey can't. Their protocol is shit and broken and they know it. This is the retarded excuse they give you stupid goyim:>But they don't do that because it wouldn't be able to run on a home computer if they did.
>>59658597If the Kaspa developers are so unskilled then why was early ETH based on their work? Ethereum had uncle blocks because of Yonatan >Global currency, micropayments. It's a joke. What idiots pushed KAS to current mcap?It breaks records for PoW. That is a fact.Pic related. Fully synced Kaspa 10 bps node running on a mobile phone.
>>59658597>No, that is the excuse they give to idiot scammers like you.You're in way over your head, Ahmed.
>>59658617No, that's just how computers work. If it can do 3000 tps on a cell phone then it can do 60k tps in a data center with more bandwith and better CPU power. You're literally just making shit up and hoping it sticks. You clearly know nothing about kaspa, the GhostDAG tech, or the people behind it.
>>59658597You amuse me rankesh, I hope your boss gives you a raise for all the fun and shenanigans
so what you're saying is ... Kaspa is hodl?
>>59658629>YonatanDo you seriously claim he was instrumental for ETH?>It breaks records for PoW. That is a fact.You have no clue what you are talking about and you have done no research newfag, you just take whatever these Jewish scammers post on their internet site as documented facts. >>59658637You will never be white, faggot. >>59658641>No, that's just how computers work. If it can do 3000 tps on a cell phone then it can do 60k tps in a data center with more bandwith and better CPU power.Total bullshit. You will have inherent restrictions in the protocol and efficiency not with a linear relationship to hardware capacity.>You clearly know nothing about kaspa, the GhostDAG tech, or the people behind it.Moronic cope for having a $3 Billion market cap for a Jewish shit scam with laughable 300 tps pretending to be the future of global currency and microtransactions. Comedy gold faggot. >>59658721Spoken as a true moron and a scammer. You have nothing.
>>59658746>Do you seriously claim he was instrumental for ETH?Yes, seeing as how he literally invented the GHOST protocol that Ethereum used, his name was in the ETH whitepaper, and Vitalik said so himself that Yonatan was the brains behind that. Gasper is also named after GHOST which is Yonatan's creation. >Total bullshit. You will have inherent restrictions in the protocol and efficiency not with a linear relationship to hardware capacity.There is nothing stopping KAS from having 60k TPS if you just increased the block size. All it would require is more CPU, RAM, and bandwidth. i.e. making it more centralized. The fact that you pretend not to understand this just shows your dishonesty.
>>59658629>YonatanShow me ANY ETH dev taking his retarded 100K tps claim seriously. Or that this shit protocol will be a global currency ever. Weird if he is such an important Jewish figure in the ETH ecosystem that nobody talks warmly about him and his project, ryte scammer?
https://x.com/captaindwork/status/1881433466979619070Here's Vitalik saying that Yonatan invented the algorithm used in ETH consensus
>>59658770Who claimed 100k tps? Vitalik is the one saying 100k tps will be achieved with rollups and L2s I don't recall yonatan ever saying anything about that though
>>59658769>There is nothing stopping KAS from having 60k TPS if you just increased the block size. All it would require is more CPU, RAM, and bandwidthThey would have done that on a testnet, but somehow they will not release the data.
>>59658774kek faggot fudder btfo
https://x.com/captaindwork/status/1878723919940907133 Cardano creator charles hoskinson praising Yonatan and co's work
>>59658769>his name was in the ETH whitepaperMany names was in that whitepaper>>59658774>>59658804I said instrumental and he was not . That is just a way to pull of as scam where a 300 tps shitcoin is being presented as a global currency for micropayments to idiots, so they get a mcap of 3 billion. Total joke. Again, show me any ETH dev taking seriously the crazy claims from KAS team that they will be able to do 100k tps in the foreseeable future. Do you have any comment from them regarding KAS at all? If not, why not?
>>59658784>Who claimed 100k tps?Claimed in this thread, claimed by team, claimed routinely on twatter, no idea if he personally made that claim, but he has certainly done nothing to stop that crazy claim.
SHUT UP BIZ AND BUY KASPA, TRUST ME AND SCREENSHOT THIS
>>59658804>Cardano creator charles hoskinson praising Yonatan and co's workYes, his old work. Why don't you have anything similar for KAS?
I went all into PEPE, I'm already up hehe.
>>59658629>Fully synced Kaspa 10 bps node running on a mobile phone.That statement is meaningless unless you give me the load on the network.
>>59656282Eth is dead. If you want an L1 buy eos. Low fees, speedy txns and growing TVL are all the signs you need
Kaspa "people" are mentally deficient, even considering the space as a whole.
>Smart contracts soon!>OK, well they're not actually smart contracts because the chain can't support them, but, but but, that's because smart contracts are stupid anyways>just do it off-chain in a rollup
>ghuyz Satoshi is cited innthe whitepaper!>This is huge!>Ifnthe inventor of Bitcoin is in Kaspa, which aren't you?Enjoy your rug to sub one cent. Make sure to fill up then so you can ride it to 0 when the mining emissions run out. Real Estate I'd expense in Israel.
>>59659927>source: your gaping asshole
>>59659950Shai is not my asshole. I'm not even sure how that would work.Shout out to Lain faggot for showing me this awhile ago, you retarded KDA baggie. I sold half at 4c. Sold the other half between. 11c and 15c. Got in week two or three (can't remember). I made great money on KAS because I was buying anything that had PoW at the time. Once I learned how much data is in a block and that prevents SCs (or defeats the whole purpose of the architecture), I knew to just wait for hash rate to drop (it never did) or sell when i was up big.
>>59659916None of the KAS tards ever try to address this either. I thought it was because they didn't have a good cope, but I then learned it's because they don't even know what this chart means.
imagine spending your time like this
>>59659916>>59659993most of the top crypto are around 80-90% circulating of max supply anyway at this point in 2025. And also, this explains it >>59656738>Nobody cares about that today, at all. Because it doesn't matter to current users.KAS has a rhetoric that is likely to be bought up by retards once this shit hits Binance and Coinbase. KAS is unironically going top 10.
>>59656282What's this thing, fren ?
>gay spam not won't let me post>tried editing out the n word, shortening exchanges names>still spam.Pic rel.Read it you retarded faggots and tell me why is wrongPro tip: you can't because it's right.
>>59660760Kill yourself Sukdeep.I mean it.Its the only way out of IndiaStop trying to scam /biz/raelis; I don't take kindly to that.Get it? Kindly?Lel I'm so funny
>>59659916because of this, asics came onto the kaspa scene when it was already 70% mined. they came for btc when it was 60% mined. if it were a slower emission, marathon would start mining a fuck ton when only maybe 30% was mined. how would that be good for decentralisation? they predicted large growth and had to put in a fast emission because of it. bitcoin was a new thing and slow as fuck back thenthis way, only true believers from 2022 got large mining bags, most of them are individuals so it's good for distribution
>>59662404>Incoherent babble about not allowing big lumbers to SECURE YOUR FUCKING LEDGER, you monkey.>doesn't even try to explain away the fact that this schedule will kill the entire chain in a few yearsKys. Seriously. If you actually believe what you posted, you deserve to lose it all, and you will eventually. Shai did this so early miners, literally himself and his friends, could get a shit load of tokens to control the price in low volume markets and then dump it for insane profits post-merge. All this shitcoin is designed to do is maximize the post-merge pump and dump power. That is also why CB and Binance market makers aren't buying in, and so if the exchanges want to lost it, they're going to need to find these big miners to do a market making deal, which is also by design because dumping all the tokens is impossible, so miners may as well collect some MM profit with their stack of useless dogshit before the network LITERALLY BECOMES INOPERABLE
>>59662445do you think that shai and his friends were over 50% of the mining power back then? no idiot, there were tons of people interested. shai himself said that he has under 10M kaspa, but it's probably under 100M. which is nothing. he earned a lot of money yes, but him dumping wouldn't put a dent in the pricein any way it's miles better than any VC coin out there
>>59662445oh and the mining emission will reach 1 kas in 2031. so for the reward to be the same as today, 1 kas would need to be around 9 dollars. 9 dollar kas in 2031 sounds feasable as fuck. and who gives a fuck what happens in 20 years, if kaspa succeeds then the fees will be enough to pay the miners, if not then who gives a fuck. i don't think anyone here will be holding kaspa for more than 5 years
>>59662493>deletes ledger>I totally didn't mine this early>we prevented big miners from mining with our emissions>OK actually lots of big miners were mining it; I only got 10mKek what a retard.Also, I love how you continue to ignore the fact that this network will not be able to LITERALLY OPERATE in a few years. They'll try a fee system and no one will use the chain then because it's too expensive. It's gonna be epic and I warned everyone here. I warned this at the top. I'm warning you now. If you're so low IQ that you don't understand basic PoW principles, you're going to get rekt.We both know you're either an Indian or an insider anyways.
>>59662514>this jogger realizes he will need kas to be 9 dollars in 6 years or else THE ENTIRE NETWORK GOES DOWN>thinks this is somehow likely his shitcoin will have a 298B dollar mcap by 2031.>conveniently ignores almost all the coins are already distributed, meaning it will hit inoperable levels even sooner.OK anons, if you buy this token from Shai, who is the anon I'm replying to, just know he has acknowledged his coin has 6 years to 75x, without ever dropping below that during bear market. If you are still buying, you're so retarded even I can't help you. Just buy a real coin anons.
>>59662533the point is that they mined with their shitty PCs, just as many others around the world did. they did this so the majority of the coins would be released in this phase, and not in the asic mining phase we're in now. that's good for distribution. also why the fuck would it not operate in a few years? as i said, for the mining reward to be the same in 2031 kas needs to be around 9 dollars. does that not sound sound to you? yeah it's a big prediction but so was 10c before 2024it's impossible to make a fair pow coin, bitcoin isn't fair to people born now, satoshi has over 5% of coins lol.
>>59662533>9 postsKAS living rent free in his tiny head
>>59662571No other coin carries a risk profile that it must reach an insane valuation before x date or it literally dies. It's easy to get the pump it already had when most of the supply goes to early miners. You're a retard if you believe they didn't have GPU rigs lying around from ETH to mine hard to start. The distribution is NOT good. It's an obvious scam. If you really believe thier incoherant "muh ASICs" argument, you're retarded. I know you're just an insider though. I play Israel gets wiped off the map dp you parasites are finally addressed once and for all.
>>59662596bro they literally chose a mining algo a few days before release. yonatan wasn't even sure he wanted to make a coin, but others convinced him to
>>59662588>can't engage with argument because it's bulletproof>retard friend already admitted it needs to hit 9 dollars or it dies>thinks this is somehow likely despite everyone eith a brain knowing this death date is coming, meaning it will be a race for the doorI'm excited to see this shitcoin actually go to zero. I'll make sure to laugh at you here. Anyone who reads this thread will not buy anymore, and I'll make sure to post the archived thread in all the KAS threads and Twitter threads I see.
>>59662609 It's GPU mined. Just because he lied doesn't mean anything. Even if he did that decision in that time frame (which he obviously didn't) he ended up choosing an algo that can be mined by all the ETH miners after the merge. This was obviously by design and if you believe that, you're the most gullible retsrd I've ever met and need to be in government assisted housing on disability checks.
>>59662622asics became available for eth in 2018, sure they could use 1080ti rigs from 2017 to mine kaspa, but so could anyone else around the world. many miners already had new cards from 2021 that blew 1080ti out of the water. i think they did as good as job as they could. and the bug 2 weeks into the project, shit happens
>>59662612btw if smart contracts turn out to be good, fees will go up a lot. if shitty krc20 could 10x fees in a day, what do you think smart contracts will do? wait until stablecoins are available on kaspa, it will be like tron now, but not suck ass
>>59662674They could have just used a normal mining emissions curve over 100 years, but then insiders wouldn't get to scam nearly as hard and they'd have to actually build something. Since they knew this coin had a cool parlor trick but can't ever actually run smart contracts, they decided to scam. They did not donthe best the could. The did the worst in blockchain history and they did it on purpose.
>>59662689I don't even know what level of cope we are on anymore, anon. If you're genuinely someone "invested" in this scam despite understanding all you claim to understand, nothing can help you. I did my part. 99.9% of people who read this thread and understand the basics of PoW/Bitcoin will now not invest. My work is done. I look forward to laughing when your chain rugs like Luna to - 99.9999%
>>59662695it wasn't 2009 anymore, they knew that a lot of people would be interested early on, if they had stable rewards for the first 4 years. like 98% would be mined right now>>59662718you're not even responding, you know that if smart contracts are implemented good, the fees will rise. actual smart contracts will be on an L2, but ZK proofs will be on chain and that will raise fees. you get the best of both worlds as you get decentralisation but also the L1 remains lightweight
>>59662742fuck off
>>59662736I don't even know what you're saying anymore. How would stable rewards at a reasonable rate emitted over long periods of time make it so 98% would be mined. I just pray you're an insider scammer and not some poorfag who bought over half a cent and actually believes the countless lies they tell. You think it's a cohencidence that ever decision they made benefits early people the most. You also believe they didn't mine the absolute fuck out of it, even when the Genesis blocks are hidden. Seriously man, it's going to go to actual zero. Don't you ever wonder why it's then-first top 50 coin post 2020 that Binance didn't list? Just a cohencidence? Who even buys this shot at this point. I made great money off this scam, but I never tried to tell people it wasn't a scam and all the retarded, first-ever decisions made to maximize the profits of early scammers is just some unfortunate consequence no one could have predicted while simultaneously was thought of ahead of time (but only 2 days ahead of time) masterfully to stop whales, even though whales HAVE FUCKING GPUS AVAILABLE POST MERGE.Seriously dude, just quit Crypto if you're not a part of the scam. You will be broke in 5 years with your intelligence.Pretty sure you're just an inside tho trying to confuse your prey.Also, smart contracts never. Never ever. Nope.
>>59662800i don't think you understand that sometimes the best course of action is to make a product that's as good as possible. they know that they will earn the most money if they just make a damn good coin. yonatan is smart as fuck, and he wouldn't taint his legacy for money. most people in this space are scammers, but he's been here for over 10 years and really has a passion for iti don't claim to understand every decision they made, but you don't either, and it's clear from the way you write. personally i'm open to a discussion, but you didn't bring up a single point for me to consider
Holy fuck that guy is actually obssesed with Kas, spreading fud like crazy, wasting his time when everyone knows he's a retard lying trying to accumulateunironically giga bullish for kas
>>59656282I sold my kaspa to $Melania, and get rugged damn pls cant miss galaxis over rn at least
>>59656282Eth is fucking sick now, and KAS got nothin spacial to deliver on. with such bars, memes like UAFC and GUI are your best shot at makin something off that trump profit of yours.
>>59662612seethe, i bet you missed the boat when it was shilled at less than a cent. now fuckoff and go shill eloncum coin or whatever vaporware you own
>>59656282$Trump is still a better bet on auradex then eth
Last year felt pretty much like one giant macro consolidation. Felt much better to hold than all the other garbage around
>>59656282Is there any hope for eth at this point?
>>59664271It's Trump's biggest bag, that's about it.I dumped for KAS yesterday, happy I did that now.
lol this fag spent his entire day spreading did about KAS and now it's roaring, stay poor fuddy
>>59664409spreading fud*
Holding memecoins and shitcoins is super fucking stressful, you just know it's shit.Holding Kaspa is cozy, comfy, very nice. It's a real coin.
>>59664562comfy af
So yeah, I did reach my goal of 50k kaspa in 2024. I guess I can try for 100k kaspa in 2025? I do want to try and accumulate a second asset though. Feels better to diversify.
>>59664562Highly accurate. I am glad I dumped for KAS. We never drop below a nickel, so at worst we crab.
>>59667551dime* not nickel. Beauty of a POW network. Seriously though KAS has super high energy online exclusively through word of mouth and perhaps shilling. Definitely going to be a top performer.
Hello Niggers
How much you lose on this shit
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>>59656282>I'm cycling my profits from TRUMP into something.Already flipped mine in KAS, dropped some on Tribally after, tho, can’t ignore that gaming setup.
>>59667838it rallied today
imagine buying any brypto coin 1 yr ago and being even kaspa holders are the biggest midwits followed by icp and linkies
>>59656282It's one of the only coins worth mining anymore
>>59656282HEYTHIS IS THE GUY WHO RUGPULLED TRUMPGET HIM
>>59664562Yeah, its stressful as hell, but if you time it right, you'll make a lot, got my biggest gain on Myro and Uafc, they paid off big for meBut I sold Trump at $32 thinking I was a genie, just to see it hit $72 the next day, but we move.
>>59656282I would’ve bought if coinbase listed them, until then it’s not interesting
>>59656861Elaborate
>>59659787looks like it never recovered from launch
>>59670438It wasn't pre-mined. To list it, binance and Coinbase are going to have to buy their own bags. It'll happen and when it does it'll further drive up the value of the coin. Better to buy before.
>>59658972>I went all into PEPE, I'm already up hehe.I didnt go all in, bought some myro and uafc, and so far, i'm in in profit.
