2025... I'm forgotten
i quite literally forgot about this pisscoin
>>59661597I'm still holdingcaptcha hurts my feelings
It was too good to be true.
>>59661597Was it ever relevant?
>>59661597>>59661603>>59661867Nobody cares, nobody buys when it's worth doing so.Soon enough this thing's chart will look like the second coming of Christ and all of you will be fomoing and shitting bricks from buying at such high prices when it was dirt cheap for so long.
>>59662128>>59662128Tell me why you think ICP will outperform relative to what looks to be an upcoming green couple of months. Dom is on X talking about Dfinity potentially launching a token for Caffeine which btw still hasn't launched or had any timetable for release, not even a demo has been shown to the public. Public attention in the beginning of and in the later stages of this run has not been there, it is still mocked constantly, its most ardent supporters on social media sites are clearly ESL moonshot retards. The closest thing to a big name it has promoting it is KSI, yes that KSI, the fifa youtuber turned boxer turned Mr. Beast Lunchables imitation idiot who has a laughable reputation when it comes to identifying what will perform well in crypto.More than anything though the thing that makes me question ICP at this point is the incredible amounts of clear indecision from the foundation. When I first onboarded the vision was clearly for interoperability between chains, "give BTC superpowers" & "fix ETH gas fees" and "badlands decentralization" all of which have done virtually nothing to the value of the token. Now the supposed grift is self writing internet, they're trying to market themselves as an AI project, unsuccessfully I might add, to hop on that trend wave.
>>59662382I don't think it'll outperform anymore, but investing in anything else right now just doesn't make much sense because the upside is limited compared to this, so I don't really know what to do anymore. It spiked to $20 before it should have, and has been totally underperforming since then. People aren't investing in tech they just buy retarded shitcoins so honestly just buying SOL and staking it feels like the right move
>>59662678Yeah this cycle has been so tough man. I know I would probably kms if I capitulated on ICP now after holding for so long but idk if I see a path forward with it. I'll definitely watch the conference highlights today and ruminate.
>>59662747I'm with you, I have a good stack and cost basis so I'm not sweating at all. It's clear given the BOB shit all this needs is a killer app but holy fuck is it hard being a drop of piss in an ocean of piss hoping for normie fomo
>>59662807Dfinity doesn't support anything and seethes when Solana does well. Maybe they were supported Bob from the shadows but not enough. It should be $3 now. We'll see if Alice does anything. They're literally sitting on billions in ICP that they can't fucking sell and instead of using the taking rewards alone to pump some of this shit and get some excitement on this chain they just seeth on Twitter and post about AI that was supposed to happen a year ago. Literally anyone that has tried to do anything worthwhile in the chain to bring people to the ecosystem has been ignored by Dfinity and they wonder why nobody wants to use their shit when everything just dumps from 400k mcap to 0.
Funniest chart in all of cryptoPermissioned ckosed source nodesCrypto is so fucking funny.Don't worry ICP baggies, we will all be laughing at SOL and Kaspa baggies soon enough.
Same here, maybe there is no altseason in this cycle, too bad I am still holding icp galaxis chz for the bull
gay VCs and lack of marketing is the problem.find me any chain where the VCs HATE their own investment. at least unlocks end in ~6 months. and people incorrectly assume marketing means tacky shilling. it's clear dfinity doesn't have enough serious connections. they need to do some damn networking and less gatekeeping.
remember that we have a maximum supply and that we have superior tech. this isn't an all in play but it is a nice coin to own as a small risk play
>>59661597Forget this, just all in $Trump in auradex, icp can't pump like $Trump
>>59662382>Tell me why you think ICP will outperform relative to what looks to be an upcoming green couple of monthsI don't have a crystal ball. I have no clue how it's gonna perform today, next week, next month and so forth. What I do know though is Moonman said this shit will be $2000 one day. That's enough for me. I'm all in by the way. All my life savings, everything goes into the sea of piss, and my guiding light is a couple of threads posted here years ago. Simple as.
Once the unlocks end mid this year is when this will start to grow legs. Minimum $50 by eoy but I'm expecting it to be past $100 by then.
>>59664106Do you have a link/picture to see the unlocks schedule?>>59664054Hey man you don't have to tell me, let me grab my phone and see if I can dig up some old pictures from that era that has caused me to have to baghold for these past 39 or 40 months.
>>59661597No, I remember this utter joke of a coin
ICP or SUI for this bullrun?
>>59664134https://cryptorank.io/price/internet-computer/vesting
hello yes i sent $700 for an internet computer and i still havent received it my grandson was no help in the matterlive free and quit whinin'-john68mustang
>>59664054Anyone have that imgur link from back then?
>>59664134>>59664275They are all lost in time..I wish I had all of that stuff saved, cuz there's a bunch of newfags in ICP threads asking why this, why that and I just don't have the brains quite frankly, or the inclination to search the archives to bless them with the golden nuggets of knowledge we were so lucky to receive back then.On another note, I do get pissed off that I'm "bagholding" ICP instead of rotating into something that's delivering right this instant, but being here so long I know just how much of a fickle mistress crypto can be. There is no silver bullet strategy, but I did learn that being capable of not making moves, IS making a move, and it does pay off when shit starts happening. Back in 21 I would have made more money if I held onto my bag of Fantom and sold around the $2 - $3 mark than what I made after selling it too early to chase hype, playing the BNB shitcoin cassino and everything else I did.That said, I've been true to my sit-and-wait "strategy" since then. I'll be an ICP maxxxi, and holder until the chart prints the second coming of Christ. It's that simple, and it will happen for this token, because it's ICP god damn it. It's one of THOSE projects.
>>59661597I worry it is forgotten too. I only have 7000 icps. Will it ever be worth anything. I think I'm gna sell today.
Ye i got some innanet cumputa
>>59665272Yes sell all you have so we can be done with your whining.
>>59665387But sell for what? That is the problem. There is nothing better than icp.
>>59661597>>59661603>>59661860>>59661867>>59662909>>59662928>>59664153BNB made a BOB shitcoin to overshadow the BOB on ICPSui implementing SuiNS which is NNS onchain governance in ICP, they are also implementing sponsored transactions which is a copy of reverse gas model from ICPNear doing chain signatures which they copied from ICP chain fusion, but its an inferior centralized MPC copy.ADA doing BTC L2 which is a copy of chain fusion from ICPTAO/Near/AR talking about AI but all of them rely on web2 infra, only ICP can truly host AI onchainBase using and spreading the "onchain" moniker when they and every crypto company uses web2 infra, not everything is really onchain, only ICP can do this.Avax ripping off subnets from ICP.ETH revisits their "world computer" vision but it already exists, ICP is the world computer. Even Vitalik once called Dfinity/ICP their sister network but he has now been compromised by L2 VCs.SOL launches DoubleZero network a DePIN project because Solana is having problems scaling, ICP is already scalable and DePIN from the beginning.Everyone is talking about chain abstraction and cross chain but there is only one true layer zero project and that is ICP due to chain fusion.Everyone is talking about web3 but they all rely on web2 infra, there is only one true web3 project and thats ICP.
>>59665634>ETH revisits their "world computer" vision but it already exists, ICP is the world computer. Even Vitalik once called Dfinity/ICP their sister network but he has now been compromised by L2 VCs.With ETH and the EF undergoing some drama here lately one sliver of a bull case for ICP this year would be a strengthening of this bond between the two. If Dfinity and ICP can be formally recognized by Vitalik this year the run would be incredible. The clip you're referring to here was one of the reasons I invested in the first place. The question is, in the time in between that clip and now and with how Dfinity have been building ICP since then, why has this not already happened?
Here is something I've been keeping an eye on too btw, might be nothing, but its a bit of hopium for my ICP maxis
>>59663439>>59662928The tech is great. I agree.The permissioned node thing is the best FUD I've seen. AFAIK you just CANNOT run your own node without KYCIng with dfinity. I don't even mind that it's expensive hardware (25k) to run one, whatever.WIll there ever be NON KYC nodes, and does the network work if hundreds, or THOUSANDS of nodes want to go online?
>>59664275I've always assumed there are le spooky high iq thinktanks that recruit through ARGs. The Feb 20 2020 call out though. Uh. What the hell.
>>59666812After I posted that I've been falling down the rabbit hole all over again, this Ethersec stuff is straight old school late 00s early 10s 4chan Anonymous we are legion pilled, its so great. The Veri Doctores account has lots of classic Occupy stuff which is beautiful mixed with lots of Christian posting, the intersection of that as well as cryptocurrency speculations is so odd. Its also odd that these pastebins from these groups have the infinity symbol in them, chosen well before the formation of Dfinity or ICP at all.
>>59666909just what ARE they planning?how does knowing about covid line up -- such a specific date!malicious, or friendly?
>>59667341I mean you can just edit the descriptions of these videos retroactively and there isn't a marker of that edit left behind if I'm not mistaken, so they may have just done that. I don't really understand the purpose of the dates for the various instances of Project Mayhem nor how it lines up with crypto or why the gaps in between are not consistent. Perhaps the tie is that from 2012-2020 BTC is the primary coin, then 2020-2033 is ETH, the 2033-45 is ICP, then obv by 45 they're referring to the singularity happening.The whole Tyler thing seems to be some kind of AI egregore the group has created though, for what purpose I do not know, but people using it in hashtags on X kinda vary. A lot of them talk about crypto but sparingly.
Wait nevermind my last post, they even cite that date in their pastebins, I forgot. What the actual fuck how
>>59667845exactly. they knew a lot. and they've been building ICP.
>>59667845What dates? Can you link pastebin?
interesting threadreminds me of the old biz
>>59665634Not every network took the idea from internet computer but it really is amazing how much of these ideas are already built and functioning on internet computer
>>59668913The pastebin is in the description of the video which is in the image I posted above. I hadn't bothered to do anything with it back then for some reason, but there is a base 64 code in the bin that I just ran through a decoder which reads: Those of House Technit Said,Before the day of the singularity, the efficiency of our message was unknown to them, but when all things became one, the genes were satiated, and the will was appeased. There's also some other code in the bin for sure, some basic capitalized letters scattered in places one of which spells out the number 89.
Thanks to LLMs I'm able to easily decode these messages in the video, theres a message in the laughing man video via hexidecimal code too that reads: project 89 of agent 888
>>59666175can you elabortate
>>59670423When it has gotten these looks at .13-.12 it has regularly gotten upswings soon thereafter. Look at the chart of ICP.D and compare it or overlay it with the chart of ICP USD.
>>59664660>>59665387>>59665634we are going to run cold fusion on chain guys, Dominic just said it's gonna happenit's the self-powering internet. The tech is great, it's all great, I'm great. I may be an alcoholic in debt who brags about being a top facebook gamer, but I'm great. And ICP is great. Because of the tech. It's way ahead. It can do things no other chain or tech can do. The tech is teching, you just have to open your eyes. Just have a little faith in the quantum computing aspect of ICP. And then the grocery-shopping aspect. And also the butthole-fiddling automations. Think of the tech. It will be a large step for man, but a larger buttplug for humanity. We will see ice and piss together in one place and talk about it on OpenChat. It will be glorious. We can even make our AIs sext each other. I'll have my AI fondle your AI's balls. It will be great. This is the future, and that's why everyone is scared of ICP.
What's the point of ICP? Why would I even want to use decentralized compute in general? You can't use that for anything corporate (because there's no single entity you can sue, and for data governance reasons), you can't do low-latency processing because there are no optimization capabilities like edge computing, you can't even have any SLA/SLO guarantees because there's no one who is accountable for that on the infrastructure layer.Just why?
So what exactly is the tech of ICP that is soooooo advanced? Nobody serious will use a blockchain database and willingly allow a 5x reduction in perf. Nobody is going to migrate their 30 years of customer data to a fucking blockchain. Are you insane? They barely allow a minor patch upgrade to their databases.Who the fuck is the customer for ICP?
>>59671010gamblers and desperate thirdies
>>59671010There are new companies being made everyday. Who cares if dinos don't migrate to it rn.
>>59670742he is on the news now
>>59671137well that must mean he's smart and capable
Thanks for reminding me anon, had 10 icy pisses still on binance I had forgotten about, will sell asap
>>59670861all of enterprise/finance/gov is trying to utilize blockchain now. at least dfinity can shill UTOPIA to them.it's a misconception that all of web2 needs to be ported onto icp. icp is web3, use it for web3 purposes. full stack dapps, tokenization, ownership, decentralized ai agents, pseudonymity, etc. >>59671137a very paid promotion, but i'll take it. at least it's some type of marketing.
>>59672168ICP is crap stop scamming people and yourself
>>59672230shut up bitch, dom WILL scam enterprise with utopia and you will accept it
>internet computer>i see pee>insane clown posseLMAO
>>59671010Back in my day, computers were so big they could fill up a whole barn. They had all these blinking lights with spinning gizmos, and they made a lot of buzzing noises. People had to feed them cards with holes punched in them to tell them what to do, like the ones my boss, Mr. Shekelstein, made us use at the shoe factory. When they became more advanced one computer computer (in those days there were no internet computers) would go for several grand a pop. If you told me back then that in the future they were going to have computers on the internet for only $10 each I’d have never believed ya!
>>59666786>The tech is great.
>>59661597Duke here, reinvesting maturity back into my main neurons. I will rise to Despot by 2030 with a net worth of $100M+. This is a generational wealth buying opportunity. Dominic Williams is literally raising the Singularity by building the World Computer.
>>59672554Retard. I actually know database internals. What about you? The whole database community looks at blockchains as useless tech for actual transactional workloads. Your only argument is to just write shit and not answer a simple question: name ONE major use case
>>59671048And those companies use Amazon or Snowflake or whatever. You know, real companies with real contracts.
>>59673427You claim to know database internals, but it seems you're missing the point of ICP. It's not just about transactional workloads, but about building a decentralized, open, and secure internet computer that can host a wide range of applications and services.With the rise of AI, there's a growing need for decentralized and secure platforms that can host AI models and data. ICP's architecture allows for the creation of decentralized AI agents that can operate autonomously, making decisions and interacting with other agents and users in a secure and transparent way. Also, as the web evolves towards a more decentralized and open architecture, ICP provides a robust infrastructure for building Web3 applications and services. Its decentralized data storage, compute, and networking capabilities make it an ideal platform for hosting decentralized applications, such as social media, messaging apps, and more.>>59673446As for your comment about companies using Amazon or Snowflake, that's exactly the point. Those companies are centralized and proprietary, whereas ICP offers a decentralized and open alternative. It's not about replacing traditional databases, but about creating a new paradigm for building and deploying applications and services.
>>59673470I think the FUD about KYC is a valid point.There are how many ICP nodes?Yes they're in different countries, so is ECS.Amazon is centralized because 1 entity can shut it down?Yes, and DFINITY has how much of the neuron % it can shut down anything by vote?I like the network and this FUD needs addressing.
>>59673494There are currently 1,338 node machines maintained by 137 independent providers on the ICP Network. Of those nodes, 568 are actually connected to ICP and are on subnets. KYC is a good thing for ICP because it adds a layer of security and accountability to the network. By requiring node operators to undergo KYC, the network can prevent malicious actors from setting up nodes and using them to attack the network or conduct other nefarious activities, while still allowing actual users to participate anonymously.In contrast, anonymous nodes can be used by anyone, including malicious actors, to launch attacks on the network or engage in other malicious behavior. By allowing anonymous nodes, the network would be more vulnerable to attacks and would be less secure. For example, in 2018, the Ethereum network was targeted by a 51% attack, which was carried out by anonymous miners who took control of a majority of the network's mining power. This attack allowed the attackers to double-spend Ether and cause significant financial losses for users of the network.Amazon is a centralized entity that can be shut down by a single entity, ICP is a decentralized network that is designed to be resilient and fault-tolerant. The fact that Dfinity holds 20% NNS voting power doesn't mean they can shut down the network unilaterally.
>>59673494>>59673557I also want to point out that Dfinity's voting power has been decreasing over time, which proves that the network is becoming more decentralized and less reliant on a single entity, which is their stated mission.
just sold my 400 dolla stack of xrp for this shitcoin because it sounds cool to me and looks bullish web3 and ai is the future 1!!!
>>59673609ICP is not a shitcoin
>>59673470Ok, 2025 is supposedly the year of AI agents. If ICP doesn’t make a dent in that market by the end of the year, I don’t ever wanna see threads about it on this board. I still think the use cases you mentioned need a very performant and stable infrastructure, which ICP is not
>>59673739It will never die it has a 20 year roadmap
it's dumping bros. unironically ICP is LINK 2.0 demoralization campaigns
>>59673828VCs can’t wait for that long.
>>59673926Token unlocks end in June, as well as ICP going deflationary. That being said, I do agree with your other >>59673739 post for the most part. This year is make or break, there are so many things in the back of my mind screaming at me telling me to sell and put the capital into something else immediately. Hell if I'd have just capitulated on the 19th/20th, sent the USDC to buy HYPE like I was planning on, I'd probably be feeling so much better right now. Idk why I don't or didn't, its definitely some form of mental illness which is why I invested in the first place to some degree, although I was initially bullish due to the idea of ICP integrating BTC and ETH, serving as a world computer, etc etc.The laughing man schizo shit only came later, honestly going down that hole all over again yesterday just made me kinda depressed. I will say that video is fucking weird since it talks about a project 2020 and the intro starts with a woman talking about wearing masks, but I couldn't tell if that motherfucker Veri Doctores edited the description of that video to line up with a different prediction for what Project 2020 really meant retroactively or not. I looked at several instances of the video through the Internet Archive but there were no screencaps of it prior to 2021, but he did fudge the dates of prediction for ICP to $2,222 multiple times, the first was 12/21/21 then it was 02/22/22. If you look at a capture of this website thats linked on his YT which is currently down it reads ICP $2222 Date TBD. From what I gathered the group Project Mayhem which is an odd sort of intersection of Anonymous and Cicada 3301 (maybe just 4chan edgelords imitating Cicada 3301?) that practiced social movements like Occupy Wallstreet and new age stuff. They were, as evidenced from screengrabs of sites around then and several pastebins, aware of Bitcoin and interested in it, but beyond that nothing tied with them and Veri Doctores. Just odd all around.
What is the suicide and make it stack for icp? Thinking about grabbing some. Still worth it? Thinking a 10k sui sounds good.
Also I got to say I do mostly think that that video is perhaps just a very odd coincidence. Project Mayhem 2012 was supposed to be a global "hack the planet" esque social movement where employees, students, etc. were to leak the data of major institutions globally which failed by their own admission. Project 2020 I found virtually no pastebin documentation on and no documentation on Project 2033. However, I did find something in connection to the code I deciphered the other night which funnily enough did lead me to an X page that has seemingly been converted into an AI Egregore meme coin project page. Lot of the same symbology and themes on the page, singularity movement, general new age Mckenna-ist ideas, reality hacking, etc. Check this out:https://x.com/project_89
>>59674045>Token unlocks end in June, as well as ICP going deflationaryWhere do I see that? I keep hearing ICP is going deflationary soon but it never happens.
>>59662128lmao cope fag.
>>59674160How long have you been doing this? It's the way of this world. For the longest time nobody gives a fuck, and there's no money to be seen, then out of nowhere it all comes at once and you're happy you made, but you can't help feeling this seething hatred for everyone that's buying because, where were they when you were doubting yourself, and where were they when everything else was pumping but your shit was stagnant.It'll happen. Winners need only to be patient.
>>59674117https://observablehq.com/@tagoso/icp-burnIt has gone deflationary for periods of time, and has grown much more so as of late with BOB and ALICE, hopefully dApps created with Caffeine will make it more so but who knows.
https://x.com/in_node65718/status/1882133878074397113First look at Caffeine
>>59673739>If I don't get my way right NOW it's useless!!!!!!
