it's joever edition>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Charts/Screeners/Data:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://finviz.com/https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Live Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business>Options:https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htmhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Boomer Investing:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.portfoliovisualizer.comhttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/Previously on /smg/ : >>60111924
I really miss that old guy who just sat there and did nothing. Even gave a few guns to the semi con boys
it’s over
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I wonder what’s the prettiest bridge I can jump off…
>>60114140Source?
Congress needs to reign this fucker in, he's gone too far.
>O say, can you see,>by the dawn's early light,>What so proudly we hailed >at the twilight's last gleaming
LOWER FAGGOT
>>60114140Uggggg
>>60114140Those Australian penguins must be making a lot of fentanyl
>>60114152https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/04/03/tariffs-trump-global-trade-talks/>>60114159They're actually planning on ignoring the filibuster so they can pretend the tax cuts cost nothing and don't contribute to the deficit, and you're talking about reigning him in. The Reds are refusing to cut taxes.
Amazing day.
I miss the times where I could just buy oversold companies and turn a profit over a few months.
>>60114140There was a guy on CNBC who spent like 2 hours suggesting that what trump was doing was a negotiation tactic lmfao. Why won't people just accept hes retarded?
>>60114179Go away!
>>60114112HOW IS IT STILL DUMPING
>>60111936active thread over here. smg has split so many times today
>>60114195to>>60114140
>>60114195Why would it stop?
The U.S. essentially declared economic war on, and insulted, the entire world in a material and tangible way. Even its closest friends, Milei and Netanyahu, were raped by 10% tariffs. The goal being to get these nations to capitulate on trade policy and submit to the U.S. entirely. So it is, and will probably be interpreted as, a crass attack on their sovereignty and yet another reason to avoid dependence on trade with the U.S. because there is not only a sanctions risk but now a tariff risk that they will flip the table if they're not "winning" at any given moment in balance of trade. The diplomatic and economic credibility of the U.S. has never been lower than at this moment. Putin and Xi must look like prophets to the majority of the world for having organized BRICS+ years in advance of this clusterfuck.
>>60114183Yeah. I mean... I'm trying to do that again. But I admit it might go badly for me.
>>60114188People are absolutely refusing to listen to the guy telling them that he's going to rape them to death. He keeps repeating it but voters live in lalaland
I failed to buy puts yesterday and I deeply regret that oversight. Oh well crash the fucking market so I can get in at the basement like the boomers did.
15.3%, all American, zero optionsJust git gud lol
>>60114195Why is the cat screaming?
+49%still down from losing money to TSLA puts last month
S&P 500 CLOSES 4.8% LOWER, NASDAQ 100 DOWN 5.4%; WORST DAY SINCE 2020
>>60114215If we are really in a bubble burst market crash you have plenty of time, just wait for the next bull trap, took over a year for 2008 to bottom out
>>60114188I just kept giving the benefit of the doubt. The Trevor Milton Nikola pardon sealed the deal for me though. Uniquely black and white no excuse Trump retardation. Not even his biggest simps could defend that.We are being lead by a clown with a cult.
>>60114218You're essentially a parasite leeching from regulatory capture. You did not create any new value for the American people, you did not earn that 15%. You profited from the destruction of economic value by investing in inferior goods.
Started to buy back some stocks I sold. I can either average up or down from here on out.
>>60114213>"i want massive tariffs, consequences be damned"The media: "i think hes signaling that there's gonna be an end to these tariffs soon. Looks promising"
>>60114266By the time Congress wakes the fuck up and repeals them, it will be too late. They will react when the market is already crashing and take too long to fix it.
>nobody did itlazy bastardsDING DING DING DING DING DING How was your day anon?
LmaoHe's so fucking based
>>60114249Jan 6th was when I realized he was at *most* a lower end midwit and now I fully believe he’s 90 IQ max. Americans are so uniquely retarded. If Mussolini was even 10% as retarded as Trump, he’d have never came close to any real power. As is so common in this shithole, he’s a prime example of failing upwards.
>>60114266It's always like this. When Jpow started hiking in 2022 we saw the same shit.
>>60114280there are two threads. i did it in the other one since this one had four posts: >>60114147
DOLLAR WIPES OUT ALL GAINS SINCE TRUMP’S NOV. 5 ELECTION WINKBW BANK INDEX SINKS 9.9%, MOST SINCE REGIONAL BANK CRISIS
Banks got destroyed today.>JPM down 7%>BAC down 11%>C down 12%>WFC down 9%
>>60114303>>60114308MOAR
>>60114280>-2.8%Barely worth getting out of bed for
>>60114297ah i seefucking thread splittingfirst we have to compete with /bant/ and now we have two on /biz/, the labor force is being depleted too rapidly
>>60114308Well at least they're going out with us. Of course Trump will bail them out if they see risk of collapse, because he's a cuck. You guys ever wonder what the world would be like if Obummer bailed out the people instead of banks in 09?
The business TV market shills are just a subset of the US Entertainment ' hurr hurr we are murrica' Corporation. None of the above can face the fact that you put a screaming demented plastic gonk at the wheel and nobody can/will stop the gonk. There is quite simply nothing you can do. t. yuro who can do nothing but will watch
Once the lower taxes announcement comes out we'll be so back
>>60114364why didn't bush do it?
>>60114386Two more weeks
So what is the /smg/ consensus, is it over or not?
>>60114364Yeah, I've accepted that the government simply won't allow the big banks to fail as a group. Ever.
>>60114280Roughly 1200+ buckaroos all from shorts and a bear cert. Feels good to make some money during this clown fiesta of a timeline.
>>60114396It's been over since inauguration day anon
whats the ideal expiration for puts
>>60114188>>60114140consequences of 1st term media hysteria and lies as well as the fact that Trump also dropped 90% of his agenda as soon as he got into office back in 2016the issue is all the stupid shit he said this time around he actually plans on doing
>>60114386Estimated $2,100 for the average household in tariff payments.
I think I miss Trump’s tard wranglers
Nasdaq will close at 25000 on 31st December, trust the plan
>>60114422unsure, but I sold off all but one of my puts expiring tomorrow.current options attached
>>60114422depends entirely on your target strikes and your belief in market sentiment and how much of a completely degenerate gambling addict you aretraditional options plays with a bearish outlook and possible protective put play? 30-60 dtehigh risk high reward plays with crashing outlook? 28-14 dtebrain broken slot machine gambler? 2-0dte
>>60114558so you're saying I should max out my margin in monday puts
>>60114581exactly, and make sure to spend your downtime pulling the lever on your local Book of Ra bus stops
>MCHP and MU both down around 15% in a single daySurely this is a good point to buy. There is no way it won't bounce back right?
I bought tomorrow $58 tqqq calls after open and I've lost about 95%. I didn't predict such a massive sell off
>>60114280Down about 5%. I thought it would be more as I woke up to ninety notifications of almost every stock falling up to 10%.
I bought WMT and SLV calls with 120+ dteLet's go
>>60114639The balls on you though. Money can’t buy that!
>>60114639should have done sqqq calls instead
Remember no lube, it's bad for the planet
lol
>EUROPEAN UNION CONSIDERS FINING MUSK'S X MORE THAN $1 BILLION: NYT
>>60114737it needs to be 1 trillionwho the fuck is handing out these pussy fines
>>60114140positively sharting the bed
>>60114280+3% approximatelySold short ETF that I had bought on March 25 and realized the gains. Probably too early, but 3% gains vs my whole net worth in a day, better realize it.
>>60114112>>Educational sites:Why the fuck should I read this shit if the admin don't?
>>60114734He forgot about chinese control of Panama canal, and the Fentanyl?
>>60114768because the admin can inside trade and you can't
>>60114768because it'll teach you how to invest when the current administration is r tarded
>>60114610but it's GUARANTEED to go downit literally can't go tits up
>>60114280I don't want to talk about it
>>60114828>but it's GUARANTEED to go downu sure cuz if it doesnt then you will be raped
>>60114856name a single reason the line would go up by monday
>it's over >SELL SELL SELLLLL!no
>>60114737>the EU is spiritually African
>>60114863NTA, but if Trump starts cucking on the tariffs we'll see a huge bounce back. And he's supposedly already beginning to crack >>60114734
>>60114863mr dolald could say sunday night "no more tariffs lol"
The most obvious thing to do here is short. The only thing that might hurt you is a relief rally that has zero chance of lasting because this administration actively is seeking to crash the market and they can do it at will. Trump can just come out and say "we're doing 200% tariffs on every country" and the market gets deleted almost instantly.
>>60114863Regardless of fear, the line tends to go up after such a massive dump as this. Wouldn't surprise me if tomorrow is somewhat green at least.
>>60114865asobi asobase is prolly the only manga (and anime, as well) that got a ROFL out of me
>>60114886no, that was posted before todayI remember reading it a couple of days ago>>60114892his ego wouldn't let him>>60114897hmm, then buy a put for the 9th?
>>60114899Check'd and based
>>60114926>no, that was posted before todayhttps://x.com/financialjuice/status/1907894267004994043Posted 30 minutes ago. Don't know shit about the source, but it is recent.
>>60114954https://www.reuters.com/technology/trump-says-tiktok-sale-deal-come-before-saturday-deadline-2025-03-30/here, I read it april 1stso he was already thinking this
So, how is everyone doing with their bets? good winnings today?
>>60114978>>60114954nope
>>60114899Personally I liked how much yuriniggers seethed when it came out
We are winning a bit too hard
>>60114444>Estimated $2,100 for the average householdjokes on them, I have no money
Nah still not gonna sell. It's just money, it's made up.
>>60114899Thanks for reminding me that I need to buy the blurays.
>>60114896This is how bobos confidently short the bottom. FYI.
>>60114280Posted in the other thread but>>60114147+30.35% day+37.28% week+88.05% month+180% YTDI also had options paper trading in the background that went +400%. I'm just not too familiar with IV yet to do this kind of trade. I thought that after the tariffs announcement IV could go down and crush the value of these options EVEN if the value of the underlying went in my favor, so I didn't jump at the opportunity.I find options fascinating though. Every paper trade I made but 1 turned out positive, and the one that wasn't positive was neutral, not even a loss.
>>60114896>bottom sign is in
>>60115049Why not short volatility and gain some premium while the IV comes down? Surely a better bet than going all in on random options.
Also this bitch got absolutely raped holy shit. I've never seen anything like this. I think it is going to recover, it is already doing it, but it still hasn't hit bottom IMO.
>>60115095kek throaties
>>60115095I WANT IT SUB $9GIMMIE THE <$9 DADDY NEEDS A NEW ANIME BODY PILLOW
>wahh wahh the markets downGrow up. Do you not recognize how pathetic you sound?
>>60115093I'm an options newbie so I'm guessing here, but it would require me to be a seller I suppose? So far I only tried buying calls and puts, both with great results.
>>60115095Lumsisters...
A global recession is definitely one way to bring prices down. Promises made, promises kept
Damn everything went to shit. Is there even anything worth going long on? Or is it nothing but shorting time now?
>>60115129I look like this and say this.
>>60115183traditionally, you short when its green and long when it's redshorting after a day where the market was -gorillion% overall is a very risky prospectthat said, do you think its joever or only just begun? that will inform your direction
IDs are good because they show how retarded a specific poster is
you can just change IDs lol
>>60115246Show flag
>>60115217thats fair, maybe im just being too greedy right now. at the same time shit like TSLA has been a roller coaster with no rhyme or reason as far as i can tell so what the fuck do i know. im gonna see how the after/before market goes by tomorrow, maybe there is some quick buck to be made
>>60115266go to bant niglet
>shows off the new Gold Card: "For $5 million this could be yours... it will be out in about less than 2 weeks probably. Pretty exciting, right?"????
>>60115296he raised the prices for the EB5 from 1 mill to 5 and thinks anyone is still interested
>>60115129Is this your first thread on /biz/?
>>60115280>TSLAFAG7 stocks are borderline memestocks with a copious amount of insider trading and shady practices that are built around hype and buzz and fraudulent numbers and fleecing retail, don't ascribe traditional investing principals to stocks like TSLA, you'll just get buttblasted when it has a +50% movement on a day it reports that all of its sales files disappeared in a mysterious building fire or -500% on a day it actually reports production on all the shit they pretend they make.
>>60115296It will be used by Saudis and Israelis to launder money that's all.
> decide to read book despite a few reviews saying it dick rides Marx. > everytime Marx is brought up his claims are immediately rebuttedWhy is Goodreads so retarded
Can't believe I wasted the whole day in meetings. Missed some of the best entertainment in years.
You guys are retarded for panicking, things are so bad that they'll be good. Trump will be ousted by millionaires and billionaires, relax. Otherwise US is doomed and US won't be allowed to be doomedChillax
Cash gang bros how are we feeling?
>>60115343The billionaires are making loads from all this chaos. The millionaires are fucked.
>>60114196>/pol/tranny generalhard pass
>>60115343but panicking is funnyit's obvious the line will go up in the long term
>>60115353Billionaires will be hit hardest since their lifestyles are financed by debt taken against their stock holdings.
>NVDA recoovering in after-hours
Dealing with office women makes me want to kms. Ugly women should not be allowed to answer phones because they have such shit attitudes. I want to get stuff done and need clear answers.
>>60115365They don't actually need billions for their lifestyles. It's all a game to them anyways.
>>60115343Putting the memes aside, I do wonder what kind of lasting political ramifications this has on stuff like special elections and the midterms. Too early to tell because the market and the economy could yo a lot of different ways from this, but I would be surprised if there's no effect at all.
So is TSLA still a good target for puts? I feel like it has no business trading above where it opened today. Surely the jig has to be up soon and sub $250 is all but guaranteed? Puts set to expire a few days after earnings call maybe?
>>60115323pretty much, for regular folks like me its as casino as it can get. it makes me chuckle to see "analysts" say how tesla is on course for 500 or more.
>>60115346Still waiting. A bit upset we haven't gotten to the circuit breaker stage yet.
>>60115346Brooding
>>60115367how much copium are you smoking?NVDQ is still above $4. watch NVDA go to $80 by next week
>>60115398no need for circuit breakers if it keeps slowly bleeding
>>60114438He would have done all the retarded shit he promised in his first term too, but he made the mistake of surrounding himself with people of at least some level of baseline competence, which let to him getting tardwrangled.This time he has surrounded himself entirely with sycophants and the Republican party is totally ideologically captured by it's lunatic fringe, there's no one there to stop him.
>>60115280Imo, it hasn't really hit the bottom yet because other retaliatory tariffs haven't happened. Also, TSLA is a weird stock, it's sales go down by like 13% and the stock rises 5%.
>>60115289>IDs are good>Ashamed of his flagOk faggot
>>60115425TSLA puts have fucked me terribly. Accumulating TSLZ instead (no expiry)
>>60115425TSLA only down 5%, retail hasn't even capitulated yet.
>>60115435nobody's ashamed faglord, I'm tired of polniggers that don't know what a deficit is trying to export their cancer board culture
We’re gonna see S&P 3300
>>60115483and I would cum
>>60115483imagine the bullrun afterwards
>>60115425its pure gambling with TSLA. dont try to follow reason, its worth as much as your gut here
What's funny is that the market is still assuming that these crazy tariffs are just a negotiating tactic. People think he's isn't going to go through with it and I sort of agree. A 50% tariff on China, 45% on Vietnam and 26% on India is going to absolute buttfuck both American producers and regular consumers. I just don't see it happening. You have to assume that Trump has some sense of self-preservation.
>>60115504If the world dedollarizes you're not getting that bull run if you're murrican
I have a sneaking suspicion that some of you guys might a little retarded and can only make money in a full blown bull market...
>>60114112>Just put 40% of my portfolio in TMF.>It's already dropping after-hours
I bought SOXL at close
>>60115536Why would you buy bonds right before a rate hike?
>>60114112Let's see how the market is doi-
Futures opened. Here comes the rape.
>>60115582opened neutralwe're in for a heckin crabbing tomorrow aint we by the grace of allah, may we get a new tariff tweet tonight
>>60115526I'm BEGGING you, PLEASE start believing Trump when he tells you that he's fucking retarded: >>60114140He's been trying very hard to get it through to you, he's not fucking joking.The only thing preventing him from going full retard during his first time was his party and cabinet managing to tardwrangle him, this time will be no different, except it's gonna be all on the republicans in Congress this time since he purged his cabinet of all non-dicksuckers.
>>60115521Yeah, it's far too volatile for normal investing. I also suspect that their sales are fucked for the year.
Day: -13.06%This Week: -9.67%This Month: -10.54%This Year: -36.84%I think the industry term is: hyper fucked, and not in a good way
>>60115607Suspect? Hes basically pissed off his entire customer base of liberals. Tesla sales have fallen like 50% across the globe
>>60115598lol I just watched Trump telling a reporter at the airport that he's hoping that countries would negotiate and drop their tariffs. I watched this like 5 minutes ago.
>>60115597actually now that I think about it would make sense for the market to open relatively neutral tomorrow so that it can react to Jerome's EO tomorrow at 11:30 estguess I can sleep in a bit>>60115614mumu.....
>>60115637And at that point it'll still be overvalued by 2.5x
>>60115597Schedule for tomorrow.Not included: reaction of China, Vietnam, Lesotho to tariffs.
>>60115649Well if that was what he was trying to do why would you say it out loud? Now they know you're bluffing. He's 100% serious about going through with this.
>>60115670yeah it dawned on me that jobs + powell make it imperative for them to have a controlled open tomorrow
>>60115670LESOTHO
>>60115425TSLA is a meme stock.
Sorry anons, but I would rather sacrifice billionaires and your investments in exchange for returning local industry and increased jobsMaybe invest better? idk
>>60115597>crabbing54% tariffs on China without any notice. Re-read that number again. 54%. It's going to be a market crash. Smart money (the Jews) got out today.
>>60115713You're smoking crack if you think manufacturing is coming back to the US. Maybe if the tariffs turn us into a third world hellhole
>>60115649>would negotiate and drop their tariffsThat process takes a year to several years for a major trade power or bloc like the E.U. or China. The market will be wiped out by then.
>>60115713>Maybe invest better?I'm TRYING ok???
>>60115713You think that billionaires are not aware of what's going on? You think that this is catching them off guard and that they're willingly giving their money away (Elon Musk not included)
>>60115397The Yahoo page for tessler has been bombarded daily by Cathie Woods swearing it'll hit 2600$ in the near future so better buckle up and slurp all the discharge tutes keep dumping.
>>60115744Trump believes that since he can run his entire country by fiat by just saying "THIS IS DEFINITELY A NATIONAL EMERGENCY FOR REAL YOU GUYS!" that every other country and region is content to be governed like that.
>>60114943>>60114989>>60115019Maybe animanga can be saved....(no S2 tho lol fucking nips I swear to god)
>>60115773What scam is that?
>>60115744I think what the market thinks or is hoping for is that he'll announce soon that he's received an avalanche of calls from desperate foreign leaders eager to drop their fictional tariffs and invest in America and because of this he's suspending tariffs until May 1st or some other arbitrary date.
>>60115785Looks like the gold immigration card. Funny enough, I've been getting ads for EU citizenship via investment in Portugal.
>>60115781Gold cardBasically just a way for Middle Eastern oil sheiks and Russian oligarchs to buy citizenship for 5 million dollars.
>>60114188lower class people have a hard time accepting we are ruled by retards at worst and imperfect humans that make mistakes at best, they always try to rationalise bad things and believe everything is part of a plan or happens for a reason (see conspiracy theories)
>Cruz: Tariffs are a tax on consumers, and I'm not a fan of jacking up taxes on American consumers -- Fox Business this is going to get ugly, me finks
>>60115552>rate hike????This isn't happening.
>>60115794>if this happens I put everything into amazon and make a 20% profit>if not I sit on my EU$ and see how they automatically go up as the rest of the world embraces the euro as the new reserve currencyfeels good
<Apple loses $250bn in market value from Trump tariff hit
Call me gay bear but I think the setup for tomorrow is to buy into the fake and gay rally that likely will happen early then flip into bear mode again. Market is crushed and extremely shitty, and Trump doesn't seem like he's going to give in, not yet anyways.
>>60115649yeah they're gonna negotiate to lower their trade surplus by forcing their consumers to buy us goods. they are preparing the mind control helmets as we speak
>>60115649>Trump telling a reporter at the airport that he's hoping that countries would negotiate and drop their tariffs.You mean those completely made-up tariffs he claims he's "responding" to even though they absolutely do not fucking exist? Stop trying to make sense of his bullshit jesus christ man
>>60114140Is this a return to Mercantilism? I thought we were getting free trade (in the Austrian sense), now it's even going against Adam Smith!
>>60115871Our lovely Jerome our lovely wonderful Jerome, Juicy Fruit Jerome I like to call him, will tell us tomorrow that everything is fine and there is no trade war in Wa Shing Ton and we're gonna win bigly tomorrow folks, this I tell you. Believe me, we are gonna win tomorrow folks, I guarantee it. Our miraculous little man Juicy Fruit will liberate our country and make inflation no more, that's right folks. anyways tune in tomorrow to find out what fake direction the gay matket goes
>>60115860Republicans in congress will never stand against Trump.
>>60115863Fed will hike rates if the tariffs go through because inflation will fucking skyrocket. >>60115894I'm not trying to rationalize anything. I said>eager to drop their fictional tariffs >fictional tariffs >fictional
>>60115896The retards here actually think mercantilism is a good idea.
Being a bear is like months and months of boring as fuck crab days, these days make it worth it
>>60115146Yes, you would be selling for that sweet premium, but the trick is to not get too greedy and not get assigned, but if you do, it should be something you're fine with holding for a while.
>>60115920the fed monetary policy meeting isnt until May so it'll be a while til we find out and the most likely outcome is that he'll just leave rates unchangedraising them would be suicidal from all the negative price pressure, and lowering them would just blitz inflation againtomorrow is just whether he tells us if the market is gay or if it is fake, and how certain he is of its fake gayness or gay fakeness
How exactly do trumpniggers think tariffs will get manufacturing back? Do they imagine factories as something that can be airlifted and transported to the US? Do they think there are people waiting in line to work in a Nike sweatshop?
>>60114188Denial over their own vote. Because would be admitting they themselves are even more retarded. It's a spiral of denial over this realization that definitely can't be true.The human psyche is fascinating.
>>60115928Yup, I basically sat on BRK.A for years. I live for these moments, hoping for an early retirement when all this is done.
When do companies spend billions in buybacks and when do people complain?I really haven't heard criticism of buybacks in a long time.
>>60115957You never forget your first Brk A share, my dad got me my first one back when it was only 400k, sold it to buy my funko pop collection (a hedge against inflation), don't regret a thing.
>>60115920>I saidAh yes I definitely should have taken into account this post I wasn't replying toAnyway that may be the current hopium but the probability of it seems sketchy at best. Might go that way, might not.
Conservative legal group sues to block Trump’s tariffs on Chinese imports — Court filing
>>60115998>muh slave labor and temu goods(Neo)conservative legal group you mean
>>60115740I'm still so confused by what manufacturing they are after. We have tons of factory jobs in Ohio. What more do we need some T-shirt factories? Plus who the fuck is gonna work these jobs? Already can't find labor as it is
>>60116027Anon, the president and his cabinet are retards and some are possibly traitors. They're not after anything. They just want the aesthetic of being tough and doing things. This is why there is no push to actually get legislation to the President's desk. It's just LARPing as governing.
>>60116027People just like the idea of factories being back in the US because our golden era had em. A lot of boomer retard nostalgia about an era long gone, that only really existed because the war destroyed Europe and Asia for a decade.
>>60114112SHOOT THIS FAGGOT PRESIDENTAS MANY TIMES AS IT TAKES
>>60115935I think I'm fine with buying options and flipping between SOXL and SOXS rather than selling options. It's my most familiar territory and despite me being a brainlet it's giving me good returns so far. Thanks for the tip, but if I want quick gains I'll just buy calls or puts once I anticipate a big move and let that run.Maybe once I understand IV better (for example how IV went up after the tariffs announcement today compared to other big events where it goes down once the announcement passes i.e. a fed rate cut) I'll add it to my toolbox. It will be more predictable and reliable that way.
>>60116055It's useless anon, you can't stop the chinese century of dominance
>>60115945>tomorrow isTommorrow is a nothing burger. No meeting. No decision. Just the same thing as usual. Jerome will say they are watching the data and waiting to see. That's it.
>>60116069MOTHER LOVE ME LONG TIME LONG TIMESUCKY SUCKY FUKY FUCKY ONE TIME WONTON WONTON HONG KONG WONTON WONTONONE TIME ONE TIME
>>60116055They already tried and the fucking faggot missed
>>60116027>deport spics>causes a labor shortage>whites won't work for those wages>so companies will have to raise wages to entice new employees, Costco just did this recently by raising their min wage to $30/hrsThe original lure behind boring monotonous factory jobs was the fact you could legit buy a house and raise a family with the wages. Then came tens of millions of illegals to lower wages, and companies send production overseas where its even cheaper, all so boomers could CONSOOOM just like they always have.
Get ready to learn Mandarin buddy. Anyone know how hard it is to learn?
>>60115998Post sources or fuck off. No faggoty Twitter links or screencaps. Post a real news source link.
>>60116027Right? Automate it all already.
>>60116090Really fucking hard. Learning Japanese is a breeze in comparison. Also no entertaining Chinese media to help.
>>60116088You're fucking retarded. The only reason why 90% of those farming and factory jobs still left in the US are even profitable is because the labor force is underpaid. If you raise pay you create a new host of issues. The workers need to be underpaid.
>>60116088You're not gonna find enough Americans willing to do farm work at all to replace all the spics, the industry could not bear the cost of raising wages to a point where Americans would be willing to do it.
>>60116090I remember hearing that back in the 90s as well. China has devalued and is too protective of the yuan to have it replace the USD.
>>60116090Only ugly people have to learn a second language. If you're a white handsome Chad, chinese billionaires will offer their daughters to you with a bountiful dowry if you just smile. Still not worth it though, racemixxed babies are an abomination. You should probably learn gibberlink if you want to get ahead of the game
>>60116027In defense of the overall idea they're after, there is an enormous amount of manufacturing and production that has emigrated from the US to cheaper land as a result of the decades worth of free trade barriers and economic policy designed around "bigger number better" and "line must go up" that presidents have been doing dating back to even the original George H W Bush. America being reliant on sweatshop labor a thousand miles from home (which is a physical barrier for development in and of itself) is genuinely not healthy for a self-sufficient economy, which it isn't at this point.That said I ain't gonna defend much more than that because their way of going about solving it has been cartoonish.
>>60116119For the right amount of money anybody will do any job you like. >>60116118>the workers need to be underpaidI have a special woodchipper that I save especially for kikes like you.
>>60116072I agree, but he might have to answer tough labor questions if the early morning March jobs report is as bad as the outplacement firm reports from earlier are implying they are. The DOGE cuts are still only a part of the overall unemployment picture so the jobs report might be dicier than the 4.1% they were expecting.
>>60116150>For the right amount of money anybody will do any job you like.Do you think American consumers will be willing to pay the prices that will result if every spic working for $2.5/hr is replaced by an American working for $45/hr (Farm work being FAR more uncomfortable and physically demanding than a job at Costco)American agriculture already needs subsidies up the fucking ass to stay afloat.
>>60115860nobody in any level of government cares what ted cruz has to say
So.. what buy? Or what’s on the biggest sale? I want to invest like 25k and been waiting for Doomer time
>>60116178Argo only uses subsidies to keep prices stable because crops aren't a stable commodity, we don't need them, but the government shoves them down farmers throats anyways. And no, I think most Americans live on debt and consume more than they need, tightening the belt is unironically bullish for the US. Only fat faggots like you would disagree.
>>60116088Fantastic. Our unemployment sits at 4% and I get to exploit cheap labor for my consumables. You're not anti capitalist are ya anon? Not some kind of commie right?
The estimate on TV was pretty funny. If Apple made 10% of phones in America and there was no tariff the calculation was 3500 usd instead of 1000 per phone
>>60116220>muh slave laborGreat argument
Is this predating the fall of America, /biz/?
>>60116101https://nclalegal.org/filing/complaint-for-injunctive-and-declaratory-relief-5/
>>60116150How do you not understand how american business works? The industry falls apart the moment labor rights, worker protections, fair wages etc are introduced. Both farming and construction depend on it, and they're not gonna stop because of Trump lol
>>60116215And we have arrived at the final station on the migatard cope rail-line: LARPing as ascetics and pretending that being poor is good actually.
>>60116243Wow wow I didn't realize farming and construction didn't exist before outsourced labor, you should write a history book
>>60116264So the hill leftists choose to die on is being fat fucking faggot NEETs. Wait, wasn't that already your sides thing?
CLF?
>>60116273>We can just turn back the clock to the 1950s and the economic conditions that existed thenLmao you must be a boomer
you do plan to take advantage of AI stock being worthless by end of year, right?
>>60116215>>60116287>you vill eat ze bugs and own nothing
>>60116303>implying we can'tWhat shithole country are you from anyways? You probably have the GDP of Maine, dumb nigger.
>>60116312>going on a diet means eating bugsWe get it, you're fat
>>60116313Explain how you can recreate every industralized country on the planet other than america being in ruins after a world war.
>>60116323Learn English before talking to me
>>60115871Well I think you are correct things are such a clusterfuck I have very low certainty in anything. Reminded me of my BABA investments as Xi through a trillion dollar hissy fit against tech, that he than backtracked on recently, 3 years and 12 trillion latter.
>>60116313>he actually believes you can turn back timeIts almost as ridiculous as believing you can make the horse and buggy competitive again. No wonder you retards keep getting tricked by Trump
>>60116338>no answerthanks for admitting that you're wrong :^)
I really wish that assassin hadn't missed. This was totally avoidable.And fuck the rank and file R's for going along with it. Only a handful like Rand Paul are actually using their brain.This will be devastating for the GOP. If you think Biden was bad, you have no idea how hated the GOP will be for this. I have to assume at some point Congress will do something, because to not do anything and let lame duck DT destroy the reputation of the party forever just doesn't compute. I honestly don't know what the fuck they are thinking.MOST OF THEM ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS IS BULLSHIT. What do they think happens in the midterms, if they destroy wealth and make people lose their jobs?
>>60116352Anything is possible anon, you could even be a real man one day.
>>60116313Why is there an uneducated trailer trash poor person on my board? Go back.
>>60116366>reapond to my stroke-victim babbleIt was literally a non-coherent sentence, literally nobody here knows what you meant with your post you ESL monkey.
>>60115871This whole thing about betting on Trump flip flopping or not is maddening. It might as well be astrology.
>>60116323Build factories and have people go work in the factories.
>>60116232Yes. It's not my fault their country won't evolve. It's up to them and their workers to increase conditions the same way we did and China.
>>60116388Sorry you lost money today anon. Feels good in my pocket though.
>>60116338Its perfectly understandable English. The 50s were great for the US because the rest of the industrialized world was rubble after WW2. The moment they rebuilt and started becoming competitive in the late 60s/70s that age was over
>>60116391the 15 year old alt emo girls were right all alongas a Pisces I already knew that though
>>60116375Oh so you're just fully retarded then.
>>60116412If it were great you wouldn't have rephrased it. Did you use chatGPT to sound more white? Because that's more like it. And I really doubt whatever wasteland you're from will compete with US manufacturing after these tariffs.
>>60116423>I have no argument but I just got called a bitch so I better respond Yeah, we already knew that anon.
Reminder: The people who have been wrong about everything for the past 9 years are now saying tariffs are bad and will never work.Go back to rdit, faggots.
>>60114207Its not that deep bro. 1% global trade drop.Every rich fag with a trust fund is cooming atm. Cheap shares, cheap assets, only poorfags care because they pay tariffs and have salaries like cucks, not rich bois who already have assets and pay no tax. Rich people don't play the same game you play. You're a pawn.
Oh I missed that one. It's not over.
>>60116389No, you're just illiterate.>>60116426Fucking retard, america was only absurdly rich in the 50s because the rest of the world had no choice but to buy from america.
>>60116371>MOST OF THEM ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS IS BULLSHIT. What do they think happens in the midterms, if they destroy wealth and make people lose their jobs?Perhaps their stance is that if they give Trump enough rope they'll never have to deal with "Trumpism" again.
>>60116460shoutout to LABD. not too late to stockpile LABD and CARD if you feel you’re priced out of SOXS
there is no panic in the stock market comrades
>>60116460Oh are the semiconductor tariffs for April? I thought they were slated for May?
>>60116460SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0 SOXL TO 0
>>60116426Nah you're just retarded man. You can't argue with a retard.
>>60116489>CARD so fucking mad at myself for not getting in, checked in not even 3 days ago but pussied put because I was sure he was going to walk back some auto stuff during the announcement im such a fucking idiot man
>>60115483>Russel 2000 is under 2000Owari da...
>>60116494>"No time to panic" instead of blaming Biden or ObamaWe're not even close to blood in the streets.
>>60116494>there is no panic in the stock market comrades"stocks tumble but this is no time to panic"Do you think people should panic sell? I don't think people should be panic selling right now.
>>60116090characters aren't hard for me imo, though the number can be a little intimidatingno what's going to be a bitch for you will be tones. it's very awkward to be constantly checking for the tone used while parsing everything else and it's not helped by wide differences in general speech unless you already know a tonal language in which case you're already over the worse part
>>60116529nonono it isn’t too late, it went up to $10 last month and that was before the omega fuckoff evil tariffs. i had a bunch but sold at $6 because it had been crabbing too long. only have 17 shares now, but it’s still on the cheap side.
>>60116552CARD does have a tendency to rapidly balloon in price after-hours due to low volume. few days ago it went above $10 after hours and was $7 market open
>>60116460Thanks bro - just marked some big pharma to sell.
>>60114266They knew he watches the news. They're trying to present him a path to getting rid of this shit while saving face.
>>60116494>DON'T PANIC, KEEP YOUR BAGSAHAHAHAHAHAH LIVE ON TVGod damn shorting sheer stupidity should be made illegal, such easy money should be illegal.
>The White House on Wednesday called the Politico report “garbage,” and Musk dismissed it as “fake news” in social media post. But the administration confirmed that Musk is expected to wrap up his stint as Trump’s hatchet man in late May or June, when his 130 days as a “special government employee” comes to an end. That was enough to reverse a 6% decline in Tesla shares — a sign investors are optimistic that Musk will ditch the cheese-hat shenanigans and focus on his company’s rapidly shrinking market share (and maybe, possibly, deliver on his long-delayed promises to revolutionize autonomous driving.https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/03/business/elon-musk-tesla-sales-nightcap/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recircin case youre wondering why Teslafags are high on their own supply
>>60116494Fucking fox, they'll be defending trump even if the dow goes to zero and the US ends up with hyperinflation
>>60115781I still hate that Hanako's seiyuu never got the work she deserved.
mister jeromeplease halp
>>60116618>cutting interest rates when prices are about to go upLOL
>>60116594Telsa is a joke stock, european sales have cratered by 60% in 3 months, and it's still valued more than every other car maker on the planet combined.People here in europe are nazi saluting at telsa drivers in the streets.
>>60116618Powell is not a janitor
iam down just 2.58% for the day. How is this a market crash?
>>60116494You might notice that they've also removed the ticker.
>>60116634I just want him to say it will be okay(even if he just lies)
>>60115343Lobbyists have neen publicly quiet so far. Usually that means they are being very loud behind the scenes. That's why it's so terrifying to me to try to short any of this.
>>60116618>Tariffs will cause inflation and a recession>Fed can't lower rates without more inflation>Can't raise rates without deepening recessionIt's over
>>60116636when was the last time the S&P went down almost 5% in one day?
>>60115908>>60115871Yeah I just went all in on SOXL with my day trade account. Powell will be dovish and everyone will remember the schizo theory that Trump is negotiating with the Fed, not our trade partners. If Trump also tweets then we're golden as well.
>>60116237How do European companies compare?
>>60116609bro she was the highlight of the show too bad only tarentos get more important roles
>>60116649for your own sake, I hope you set a stoploss
>>60116675Euro market is probably getting fucked, but my defense stocks are very green.
>>60116649This bullshit is lowering the 10 year t note which seemed like a distilled goal of him and Bessent
>>60116643Lower rates aren't ALWAYS inflationary though. Rates were low throughout the 2010s after the GFC, and there was almost no inflation at all. We're gonna get GFC2 in a month or so, and Jerome might as well get ahead of it
>>60116634Powell is THE janitorwithout him we'd have been doomed ages ago
>>601166462020?
>>60116710And he'll be out by may next year. After that, all hell will be unleashed. You thought retardation was at its peak? Wait until you see the retard in chief doing an Erdogan. Now people will understand what real inflation means.
>>60116675Does Europe even have companies? I figured they all just sat at coffee shops and complain about America all day.
>>60116750that doesn't sound so bad.
>>60116715>>60116646it had similar movement back in april of 2022 but that was because inflation was like fucking 9% then and people started doing panicking about muh bankruns
>>60114280up by 2.73%, almost entirely thanks to VIXY. I might dump a lot more money on that one.
For first time ever (28 years) Fox News just removed the stock market ticker from their broadcasts
alright now that this thread is at bump limit go use the other one so we dont end up splitting threads again
>>60116796I accept their concession.
>>60116799link it if you want to recycle
>>60116820recycle>>60111936>>60111936
it's hard out here
>>60116242basedthanks
>>60116323>America nukes every industralized country on the planet other than America forcing them to rely on America for goods same as post WWIIProfit?
>>60116371>MOST OF THEM ARE SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS IS BULLSHIT.Yah. And mist of them are rich enough not to care. Most of them will come out wealthier from what is happening.