No nintendo this year edition>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Charts/Screeners/Data:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://finviz.com/https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Live Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business>Options:https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htmhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Boomer Investing:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.portfoliovisualizer.comhttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/Previously on /smg/ :>>60111936
>we're here because he got cucked by the japs out of a piano 39 years ago
>>60118356My dad works at nintendo and he told me Switch 2 will be released soon.
Fuck zion Don the con
I'm not getting the switch 2 till it's possible to homebrew it
>>60118373
>>60118379Mister anon I would never use a homebrewed switch to pirate video games. Trust me.
>>60118383It will literally be a violation of US law to not own a Switch 2.
I bet the MAG7 people are plotting to kill Trump as we speak
>>60118402They've already been dumping shares like crazy before the Tariff announcement
>>60118319>This is how we get to zero
What is the difference between TSLA and some random shitcoin?
I’m selling everything tomorrow for around a $150,000 loss, down from just over a million. All of this shit seems to have no sign of dropping and I’m leveraged up and tired of seeing that ratio creep higher as things fall more and more. I expect shit to plummet tomorrow to make this as brutal and difficult as possible to accomplish.
>>60118423nothing really
>>60118423TSLA can make a functional, shitty car
>>60118420Powerful people like zuck held to their mag7 bags and if this continues I think Trump might accidently fall out of a balcony pretty soon
>>60118434The Business Plot but woke.
>>60118434Why? He's fleecing the poors and boomers by getting them to panic sell so they can buy everything up for cheap.
>>60118423>What is the difference between imagination and the physical world?
Eazy money bros, when market green again? I miss the rips
>>60118441>so they can buy everything up for cheap.With what money? All the rich have are assets like stocks that are going to become worthless if this tariffs clownery continues
I bought soxl and will never financially recover
>>60118450PPT hasn't made an appearance yet
I now have to wait till September next year to be a milliongoodnight /smg/...
>>60118453>the rich have assets>the rich make tariffs that will make these assets become worthlessUhm?
>>60118483It's not the same rich people anon, there is a rich civil war going on in the background.
>>60118429>All of this shit seems to have no sign of droppingwe're in economic turmoil, a bad one, no one knows what the fuck is going on. i want to recover but its just gonna be another trap and money loss. things like this just dont magically recover the next day/week/monthlike I got off a phone call with a financial bro I know, and he's like dude its gonna take 18 months plus for things to return to NORMALITY. and then you start gains.maybe in the summer? falls? but this year is potential done. Yes I have lost a lot of money. Just put a fraction in and recover.NOT SOXL, WHAT THE FUCK
>>60118492So how to profit off that?
>>60118597By being on the winning team
>>60118356I maxed out my Roth IRA before the massive dip. Fuck me.
>>60118637that sucks...i took out a 401k loan to fund my roth and didn't buy anything, so i preserved my 401k and now get to buy the dip in both
>>60118661To be fair I'm too stupid to figure out how 401k loans work let alone how to use loans to my advantage. I just wagecuck and throw money at shit hoping it goes up. Usually just goes down.
>>60118523>but this year is potential done.not every stonk went down, there are always winners to be had
Even Jim Cramer hates these tariffs, which is crazy, since he hates free trade.
>>60118370oka few days agoi told uniggersand faggotsthat it was going to bottomat ~5100 in maybounce in junerebottom in julythen climb to a ~5800 christmas 2025and ~7800 christmas 2026but that was before troomp tariff specs were knownso i am giving youthe updatenow it is going to bottomin july at ~4600and climb to a ~5100 christmas 2025and ~6700 christmas 2026u have beeninformedand warned>>60118637thats okthere is stillplenty moar dipto comeand u wont be missing outon any major poompUNLESS>unlessUNLESS>unless>unlessthings changeagin
kek at SOXL baggies
>>60118717Shut up dude it's not funny
whoops
>>60118663>throw money at shit hoping it goes upbuy us treasury ETF or directly through your broker, at least you make some money instead of losing it.
>>60118723Yeah down 11% is funny but down 88% is sad.>futures
Unironically, orange man bad.Seriously fuck this guy. Imagine tanking the markets this badly on purpose
>>60118744>treasury ETFHonestly no clue what that even is. I buy VTSAX if it matters.
AMERICA'S FOR SALEAND YOU CAN GET A GOOD DEAL ON ITAND MAKE A HEALTHY PROFIT
>>60118523Yeah I don’t know how long things will be until they start to recover. This feels like a 6 month sort of thing and that would put the duration of this to about 9-12 months in total duration. I’m just pretty sure we aren’t at the bottom so I may as well get out and re-evaluate. If things pump and stabilize I can probably reduce that loss to $100,000 or so. I’m not risking an account blowout though. This doesn’t feel like a standard correction.
>>60118637>maxed out my Roth IRAWho gives a shit. It's only $7000I put £20K into my ISA in February. Now that hurts
>>60118784which brokerage do you use?
>>60118373You have to buy one now. Keep it in the wrapper and don't connect it to the internet. When it is cracked, it will likely require a low firmware version
>>60118800Vanguard
Anyone else thinking about buying SVIX rn?
>>60118818Fuck
>>60118842nobecausewat does thathave to do withNATGAS AND OILnothingnothing at allso do u knowat that meansprobably notso i will tell uit meansthat itisGAYAYOU R GAY IF U TRADETHINGS BESIDESNATGAS AND OILfutures price BASEDETFs
>>60118842I'm thinking that svix and uvix are the only tickers worth trading
>>60118818From the Vanguard website, the pic shows low risk short term ETFs where the investment is various short term bonds. You can read more about them and select various mixes of only US, US and repo agreements (I would not touch those), and international debt. I am not advising you to buy, just suggesting you consider putting some of your money in 'safe' ETFs that pay a decent APR while the turmoil is ongoing. Being an ETF you can buy and sell like stock, but its a little slower to settle (a day instead of seconds). You can also buy specific US treasuries (1 day, 3 days, week, month....) so you do not need to lock up your money, but you can also sell the bond if want. Just be sure you stop losing money and start making something. The ETF you listed VTSAX has some good years, its just losing at the moment, depending how much you are down, when you bought, you might consider holding or buying a little extra if you think its closer to the bottom to DCA. Selling at the bottom is generally not a good idea. Most of your money should be in safer investments, then gamble with a little here and there, but learn to keep and grow your money over time.
>>60118859Okay so what are you trading then Mr. Smarty Pants?
>>60118818I forgot the pic
>>60118869how do thoseget taxedcommodities futures priceBASED ETFsget taxed 60/40 long/short term holdno matter how long or shortu hold them
>>60118878BOIL KOLD UCO SCO
Futures are heading green we are back bulls we are so back
>>60118911what happened
>>60118913Does it even matter anymore?
>>60118911Futures arent real
>>60118911just a fewpaper hand shortscovering
Don't careWe are back bull bros
>JD Vance tells the American people that they are going to have to deal with inflation.HHAHAHAHAHAHhttps://x.com/i/status/1907770166403899472
>>60118943Have you said thank you yet?
trump is the best thing to happen in my lifetime
>>60118938>We are back bull bros
>>60118970We are SO back
If we are back why is asia und europe red?
>>60118995We are back bro. I spurped lovely cheapies and we are so back
>>60119002Ok show us your stock if we are back...
>>60118995That's what being back looks like
>>60119005Bros, ignore this negative fool. We only accept good vibes and positivity.Bull run 2025 is back on bros
>>60118995because dey cant compete wit us.America numba one
>>60118995Europe hasn't opened yet
>>60119015Premarket is red though
>>60119028Oh so it's real now? Huh? Huh?
>>60119032Premarket and futures arent the same
>>60119038Huh? Huh? We are so back bull bros
>>60119028dax is green
>Can't tell the difference between Pre Market and futures. lmao
The reason the Switch 2 seems expensive to you is because you´re a grown ahh man and you´re going to beat that Mario game in 9 hours. You´re not a retarded kid anymore that plays one bing bing wahoo game 20 times through.
>>60119047Bros, we are so back!Bros? Bros? BROS?
How many of you fucking losers have even said >THANK YOU TRUMP!even once in this thread?
This market is so boring. Why is nothing ever happening?
>>60119090
What stocks should I nibble on? Bought some DVN yesterday
>>60119116It's ok, the other 6 digits are hidden
>>60119121Do better next time anon
>>60119090>>60119116Kek
>>60119116798 828 dollars and 83 cents.
>>60119155that's alot of money damn
>>60119155Man I wish
European stock is OPEN and it's all fucking redFUCK
You'd have to be a dumb gorilla to have slurped yesterday. Tomorrow at close might be a good time to buy however. Better to risk being early than to miss the retard strength turn around.
>>60119192If the Euro rises more I might just start buying American stuff desu.
>>60119192Sucks to be a Europoor right now, Americans however live like kangz. The economy has never been better in fact Tesla is about jump up to the moon at any time now. God bless Trump!
>>60119207I bought INTC calls when it was down 4%
>>60119211My europe trip is gonna be more expensive this year, but probably still cheaper than the US because fuck tipping.
>>60119222>mars> American
>>60119222KEKI hope you fell for this shit. You deserve it, buddy.
Love all the low IQ retards scammed into selling their SP500s for EU stocks lmaooooo
Stocks will be green by the end of the day
Just dumped all my American stocks. Sitting this shit OUT
>>60119251BUY EU STOCKS!!! EU IS THE FUTURE!!!
>>60119245My EU stocks are up bigly. I'm +15% ytd.
>>60119253I ain't buying shit for a few months nigga
When is the bottom? (sissy
>>60119266Local bottom next week. Bear market bottom at the end of the year.
>>60118467DOGEd
For me it's being a monthly invester. Dollar cost averaging. Each month I put money into a few ETFs. Yeah, so right now I'm increasing my contributions and will increase further if it continues to fall.Trump can suck my fat one
Since the thread is a bit quieter now, can someone explain to me why having a constant trade deficit is a good thing? I've been reading people stating yesterday how there's nothing wrong with a trade deficit, but what's good about it? Surely more money leaving the country than entering is a bad thing long-term?
>>60119282I cannot believe an institution as Jewish and glowing as the PPT would ever be vulnerable to a DOGE cut.
>>60119276>Local bottom next week. Bear market bottom at the end of the year.what makes you say the bottom of the market is at end of year?
>>60119266Crypto has already bottomed. Likely tomorrow will be the bottom.>>60119307Trade is complex. We have to get dollars out of the country to maintain reserve currency status. We can't have the reserve currency without running a deficit, and since it carriers so many benefits without us having to do much work, its a tough sell to try and change it.
>>60119329Because bear markets take about a year, but it's my optimistic guess and we might also bottom out next year.
>>60119307>Since the thread is a bit quieter now, can someone explain to me why having a constant trade deficit is a good thing? I've been reading people stating yesterday how there's nothing wrong with a trade deficit, but what's good about it? Surely more money leaving the country than entering is a bad thing long-term?I think it's pretty obvious that you don't get rich by spending money>If I buy a book at my bookstore, then I have a trade deficit with the bookstoreyeah, but if you have less money coming in from your job than your money going out, you will eventually be homeless>but what about the value unlocked by enjoying that good or service?!?!Yeah it's not like you get nothing in return. You get the shit you bought, and you lose the money you spent to buy it. We aren't just handing money away, but I don't think it's a good idea to run up such a large fucking trade deficit for so long. It's trillions of dollars at this point. We built china, which was very stupid, and now they are a near peer foe to us. We built them. What did we get? Did trading with china transform our economy? Did we get 10% GDP growth for two decades and blast off into the future and just get more ahead? No.No one ever got rich by spending money at the grocery store. I think it's pretty obvious that the person profiting the most from any business is the business selling their shit, not the customer buying it. Otherwise the business wouldn't be selling their shit cuz they can't make a profit.America needs to get back in the business of making money, not spending it.
>>60119347>Because bear markets take about a year, but it's my optimistic guess and we might also bottom out next year.fair enoughIf the problem with tariffs gets handled, the markets might recover in a few months (After that the problem in solved)And if it takes a couple months to solve the problem, and a few months after that, then that puts us in about 8 months. which is close to your end of year estimateBest case scenario, market comes back in like 3 months. 1 months of negotiating, everything is perfect, no even better than ever, and 2 months to recover after that. That's best case.And it will probably take a lot longer than thatso yeah, end of year is a pretty good estimate, unfortunatelydoes clarify my strategy about buying the dip though.
>>60119307It's not really good or bad, it just is what it is. We're the wealthiest country in the world, so we buy more than we sell. There may be some exceptions, like you want to keep a manufacturing base for certain critical goods, but everything has an opportunity cost. More manufacturing means less other stuff like financial services or IT.
>>60119371My guess for the near future, which is based on nothing more than intuition, is that after the initial shock the popular narrative will change to how the tariffs will benefit the US. And, like you posted earlier, there is a strong argument for that. That will cause the next leg up, which is just due because we have been effectively dumping for two months. After that, who knows. At some point bad data will start coming in, US inflation might pick up, which will start another downturn. Summer is typically not bad, so that could happen early autumn.
>>60119340>Trade is complex. We have to get dollars out of the country to maintain reserve currency status. We can't have the reserve currency without running a deficit, and since it carriers so many benefits without us having to do much work, its a tough sell to try and change it.is it really the reserve currency status that fucks the trade deficit? I had been hearing about that, and how we switched from the gold standard, moved to the petro dollar system and became the global reserve currency, and how ultimately that has a lot of benefits (though having a gold back currency does have a certain charm to it)but is it really impossible to get a better trade balance if we are the global reserve currency? How much of an obstacle is it, to that goal?
Bros, why does the line keep going down. What the fuck. Is this the end? It's over.
>>60119431Better go all cash before you lose it all.
>>60119431The BIG one is coming, hehe, get it?
>eu defence still going up
>>60119411Trade deficits do not matter. They could be an indicator of something bad, but it is not bad in itself. It's not the same as a budget deficit.
>>60119431If you're watching delayed futures I have a prophecy from the future: line shall rise an smol amount in the next 15 minutes
>>60119431>Bros, why does the line keep going down. What the fuck. Is this the end? It's over.it won't hit bottom until the tariffs are all handledthose negotiations and policy changes will take monthsand then it might take months to recoverI used to think the bottom would be at april 2nd, thinking trump wasn't going to go crazy, and this would all blow overI was wrong, just like the market was wrong. That shit was not priced in, and they were quite surprisedso this is not over yet. Not by a long shot>Is this the end? It's over.But no, it's the end. the market will recover. It will just take time.
>>60119449>Trade deficits do not matter. They could be an indicator of something bad, but it is not bad in itself. It's not the same as a budget deficit.that doesn't really answer my question, about the global reserve currency status causing the trade deficit
>>60118402They got someone inside WH already.
>>60119463It's foolish to try to get a better trade balance in the first place.
anyone else crying and shaking rn?
AND THE RAIN WILL KILL US ALLTHROW OURSELF AGAINST THE WALL
I NEED A FIX NOW.THE PILLS I HAVE TO TAKE,IT HELPS ME LIVE A LIE.AND BLINDS ALL MY MISTAKES.
Slurping some cheapies at the end of the month.Market keeps tanking ? Slurping some more at the end of the month after.Still tanking ? Slurping.Always slurping, never selling. My greed knows no bounds.
>>60119450also it's going to turn around and head straight back from whence it came
Friendly reminder that if you are not making gains you are falling behind.
Can't decide whether to close my short before market open. The tariffs are still nowhere near priced in because the market thinks they won't be implemented, but the faggot dip buyers will crawl out of the woodwork at some point.
>>60119491YhLol
At least the sum of money lost during the daily 3% drop gets smaller as your portfolio evaporates
>>60119522>Can't decide whether to close my short before market open. The tariffs are still nowhere near priced in because the market thinks they won't be implemented, but the faggot dip buyers will crawl out of the woodwork at some point.depends on how far down your short isbut I think the market will just keep going down for at least a week, if not months (with some dead cat bounces along the way) as long as your short is reasonable you should be fine
>>60119531>At least the sum of money lost during the daily 3% drop gets smaller as your portfolio evaporatesit's only a loss, if you actually sellbuying the SNP500 or QQQ or whatever is a smart buy, because they will almost certainly recover, eventuallyindividual stocks might notI'd still be doing DCA as the market goes down and buy the dip. Absolutely no selling. Don't be stupid, don't panic sell. That's how you lose money.unless it's individual stocks, then that might be smart
>>60119514S&P is the benchmark, you just need to lose less money than everyone else.
>>60119541Over the weekend Blumpf might announce the tariffs have been such a great success that he's suspending them for the time being. The man's a fucking lunatic.
>>60119340So it's all about the reserve currency status? I've been seeing a number of posts over the past months and years about how the American dollar is too strong, so wouldn't this weakening not be a good thing?>>60119377But how can you stay the wealthiest country in the world when money keeps going out? Like if Apple keeps spending more than it earnest, it make have billions in the bank now, but in years time it will eventually be bankrupt.
>>60119546Glad to see i am ahead of the curve.
>>60119505Based slurping chad
>>60119563Apple is not giving away money for nothing, they get something in return. What you're talking about is closer to a budget deficit, they are separate issues. I could buy a productive asset like a magic money printing machine and it would still count as a trade deficit.
>>60119552>suspending themThey haven´t even been enacted yet. Market is still coping. I swear the actual blood in the streets moment will be April 9th and yesterday was a nothingburger in comparison.
BIG U.S. BANKS EXTEND PREMARKET DECLINES
>>60119636Finally, an end to the madness
>>60119440Do they know a recession leads to cuts in spend especially military ones literally in every country
>>60118356Good news one country is losing Tariffs >"Trump will inform Netanyahu next week at the White House that he is lifting the tariffs on Israel," - Menachem Koldetsky, Israeli journalist for the far-right Haredi outlet 'JDN'.Congrats everyone greatest ally is the new hub
>Trump : the market is going to boomNever know what to think about this. The tarrifs are obviously extremely bearish but hes not going to want to be wrong, so either he's right about it all or he'll cope somehow and make some changes and line goes back up. He's said it now, if he had said yeah the markets are fucked for the next few years deal with it, I'd understand
>>60119659Best ally status secured
>>60119663His plan is his hope this will revive America back to the factory it was in ww2
>>60119491I'm down by 5%
Whelp, if european stocks were considered to be cheap before, they'll be practically free at this pace. I need a break, this is not healthy.
>>60119672Next step: completely destroy Europe and Asian so there’s no competition
>>60119663When has Trump worried about what he said was right or wrong? This is dumb
futures look grim. I should just sell and eat the 10% loss and sit out the next two years.
>>60119690You think he'll get away with this if it goes wrong?
>>60119683That's the plan
>>60119563Gonna try to give an example now that thought through it a bit more. Chinaman can grow apples while Joe America can build cars. Joe wants to eat an apple. He can buy an apple from Chinaman for $1 or grow it himself. The time he spends growing a $1 apple could have been spent building a $40k car instead but then he would have a $1 trade deficit with Chinaman. What should Joe America do? China has what you call a relative advantage in economics.
>>60119701No I am just telling you in words literally what Trump thinks. Which is nothing
>>60119701He's 80 years old, has been a milionaire for the entirety of his life, and is a slightly deranged megalomaniac. I don't think he cares. There's only so much to the human experience, and he's had it all.
Got my new maga merch in for trading tomorrow.
>>60119717Not to mention that his casinos ended up bankrupted
>>60119705I understand that, but I can't see how it is good to buy 40,000 apples from China and China doesn't buy one car? Instead, all the money is going to China and nobody is buying the car.
>>60119717there's no risk for him, either he makes this his legacy or it's yet another failed project he can casually walk away from because he's rich. he doesn't want to be remembered as a president that sat in the white house and did nothing. he's going to go big or crash in the process. that's why he's trying to annex canada and greenland.
https://fxtwitter.com/SecScottBessent/status/1907620204005216499Say thank you
>>60119771Big words make my head hurt real bad so i don't understand much, but i trust the plan! God bless Trump
Finnish stocks at literal freefall because all the boomers are shitting themselves. Stuff that was like P/E 9 taking -20% in the face. So fucking bleak.
>he fell for le "buy ze dip" while market will be still crashing for the next weekngmi
>>60119771Bessent is a fucking hack
>>60119755We just consume more than them. Chinks have lower standards of living. Some would say we consume more than we should, but trade deficits are not the problem.
>>60119831Futures falling off a cliff lmfao. Dipfags are getting raped again.
EU DEFbros... Not like this...Welp, yesterday was too good to be true.
>>60119856fuck
>>60119848I still have 10k in cash, I can make this work
>>60119831stop making fun of me... a sub 100 Nvidia is looking like a real possibility.
>>60119771>https://fxtwitter.com/SecScottBessent/status/1907620204005216499>Economy looks great desu not even going to lie about it>But uhhh it looked great back in 1928 or something lolz so let me crash the economy to avoid our economy getting crashedMAGA logic
>>60119870Obviously this is going to be shit for everyone, concerntroller kun. Adjust axis and add S&P500 line
>>60119870Still doing pretty good when you consider that even gold fell.
Crashing this economy with no survivors
The boomers always wake up a day late. Shorting even yesterday is easy money today.
>>60119253they are? they are LITERALLY crashing the same as the s&p. I own both and they are both in the red by the same amount.
US markets are going to finish greenCheck themYeah I'm coping
>>60119944keked and checked
>>60119944
>>60119944did you slurp the dip yesterday by any chance?
>>60119944Finish green if green means red yes
>>60119847>trade deficits are not the problemThat what I'm trying to understand why, but I guess I just can't get it. Thanks for trying. As for over-consumption, I guess that will be corrected a bit with the tariffs making everything more expensive.
Starting to think if there's no bounce in the coming hours before open, there won't be early morning rally before the selloff continues, and it will be just capitulation from the start instead.I think it is still possible, but even if it happens it doesn't look like it will be a strong one.
lmao have a little self respect, man
Oh god what happened now
HOLY FUCK CHINA ANNOUNCES EXTRA 34% TARIFFS ON U.S. GOODS NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>60119988
its over
>>60119984There will be marginal gains in local manufacturing, but there are diminishing returns because every additional manufacturer has to pay more for the same labor pool.
>>60119944admit it, you are in china
>>60120008HAO!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Even if I'm bleeding all over the place this is pretty entertaining ngl.
>BUY ZE DIP!AHAAHAHAHAHAAHHHAHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHHA
NVDA below 100
>>60118356https://youtu.be/VKMw2it8dQY?si=7TknnqqlrVS87v5O
>>60120008and trump will continue to play chicken with china by adding more counter tariffs
HYAAAAAAAAAH MUSH! MUSH! MUSH! GO MY CHINAMEN GO NUKE THIS FUCKING MARKET
>>60120008Oof. Should have expected much, both Trump and Xi are too proud and are willing to sacrifice their people for their ego.
>>60120008this killed the little bit of hope I had. I am all in cash now for the foreseeable future. Fuck this gay market.
How long do you guys figure until prices return to normal? 6months? 6 years?
volatility chads, our day has come
>>60120058depends how long the war lasts
>>60120008Buying shorts as we speak. DIE AMERICA DIE
>buy the dip! SLUUURP!KEEEEEEEEEK AHAHAHA
REMINDER THAT THIS IS UNRELATED TO THE UNIFIED TARIFFS CHINA IS GONNA MAKE WITH KOREA AND JAPANTHIS IS LITERALLY JUST THE BEGINNING
>>60120086WE ALSO HAVE THE EU ONES TOO!
why you didn't listed mumus
>>60120072They had years to prepare for this. Meanwhile the Trump administration couldn't even take two minutes to review their tariffs for obvious embarrassing oversights.
Thanx America, very cool
TOTAL MUMU GENOCIDE
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA This is why I set a trailing stop instead of taking profit. God bless you comrade Xi!
GGWP
>>60120095+ All the remaining countries on the planet.
how much longer you guys think it will fall? Im thinking its got further to go after the China announcement today.want to buy the dip on amazon and apple stock but dont wanna blow my load too early.
>SOXL going to tank another 30% todayover it is
>>60120001AHAHAHAHAHAHBut really, based chinks. Now wait for next week where EU trashes the Mag7.
>>60120124>According to the NBER, the average recession since 1854 has lasted about 17 months. sell now even at a loss, buy in later. things arent going to change for the better anytime soon.
>>60120146> me watching semiconductors stocks perish rn
>>60120124I'd wait for layoffs at least. Retail is still too greedy. They won't be greedy when they fear for their jobs.
>>60120139yep, i thought this was be short term pain but it looks like its going to be a longer haul.im selliing my amazon and apple stock at a minor loss.Holding onto my game's workshop stock tho, because 40k literally always goes up long term.
and wallah!
>>60119964SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>60120166a question ive always had, no idea how it works in the US or other countries. But in the UK you can declare bankruptcy and you have your debt wiped.( but you are also penalized in that you cant do certain things with your money after that )
>>60120164Thank you for the copium about selling my Apple yesterday, im a fanboy but it seems like they might be totally fucked after this China tariff so 10ish percent loss seemed actually fine
>>60120045
Priced in status?
>Crashing this stock, with no survivors!
>>60120072So who's gonna get hardest hit by the mineral restrictions? Semi-conductors and high tech like SpaceX?
Thought they were gonna target swing states, but I guess they're trying to push a recession this time.
I'm in SOXL at $10. Just a small play for fun.
burger SOXL baggies are gonna rope themselves when they wake up, kek
Looking for the best lube for getting ass fucked. Any suggestions?
How do tariffs make domestic manufacturing more appealing? Nobody is opening a factory when the market is crashing
>>60120230>crashes the fake money market>goes golfing He's so based it's unreal
>>60120180id say buying rare metals stock would be the way to go, but i saw an anon yesterday saying even silver is going dow
>>60120229how does shit like "opening a factory" even work in an actual real world scenario? these things take several years before they can be run. by the time a factory is open, america probably has another democrat as president and he will reverse most of the current changes.
>>60120229We're opening all the factories and we're gonna make Mexico pay for it
Every GOP seat in 2026 will turn blue lmao
aight it was fun for a while but this is getting too farsomeone smack the orange retard in the head already so he snaps out of it
Come on Europe. Deliver the final blow.
>>60120267One thing we can guarantee about a Trump presidency is that it will never be boring.
>>60120058>How long do you guys figure until prices return to normal?How long will it take for castrated Republicans in congress to depose Trump? Oh, never you say? Well then never, get ready to learn Chinese buddy.
>>60120241Killing your family would be pretty based too
Yeah Trump is getting impeached for real this time
>China announces rare metal controls, imposing export controls on samarium, gadolinium, terbium, dysprosium, lutetium, scandium and yttrium
Holy shit bros its so over
>pre-marketIt's fucking over. Trump is the worst president of all time
holy mother of vix
What happens to a put if the stock drops below the target price? Do you just inverse into a long position and start losing money?
kekGoes to show how much you can rely on "analysts".
>>60120299>Republicans ever doing anything against Trump
>>60120293China already won. Even if he reverses everything right now, the US has lost all credibility. Why would anyone trust America when it even reneges on all its commitments and deals. Trump signed USMCA just to dump it on his 2nd term.
>>60120267after a long time we finally get some decent buying opportunies and stockpicking shines again.
>>60120321I meant when the republicans get slaughtered in mid terms but them turning against him wouldn't surprise me either
Thank god I got rid of my bags.
>>60120320what about the eu?
Oh god what the fuck, italians on track to loose 1/10 of their stock market in one day.
People are still holding onto the hope that Trump will walk back his tariffs. When reality sets in that Trump is a fucking retard, stocks will drop further
EU/JAP/KOR tariffs are not even on yet
China to impose export controls on Samarium, Gadolinium, Terbium, Dysprosium, Lutetium, Scandium and Yttrium
vix almost 40. maybe time for some kind of bounce
>things are so grim in europe even telecom, groceries and utilities are plummetingthis is gonna be black friday in the us lmfao
>>60120352This is mostly a trade war between the US and Chyna.The rest of us just have to bend over and take it
Holy shitThis is a super falling knife
>SOXL is single digit now
>>60120361Orange nigger will find a way to make it worse. He always does.
>>60120370Ah fuck, just realized it's Friday. Who is going to hold over the weekend?
mfw Intel is my biggest position
>>60120379I'm going to hold but I'm going to hate it
>SOXL baggies will defend this
>>60120339>I meant when the republicans get slaughtered in mid termsRepublican politicians literally only care about their primary, nothing else, and primaries are dominated by the MAGA base, not moderates or centrists who vote in general elections.We saw this in 2024 state elections, where several batshit insane Republicans candidates raced to be the most Trumpian of them all, won among the hardcore Republican base, but then lost to sane Democrats in the general election (even though Trump won on those same ballots).A perfect example of this is Kari Lake in Arizona, she's election poison, yet Republicans keep voting her as their candidate, even if it results in them losing a seat over and over.
>>60119411>is it really the reserve currency status that fucks the trade deficit?Yes. The constant demand for dollars makes it impossible for a trade surplus. What retards don't seem to understand is that this is ultimately irrelevant because all other currencies are measured against the value of the dollar, much like in a gold standard. Trade deficits would only be a problem if too much dollars were being printed and other currencies ditched the dollar due to inflation being excessively exported. Donald might have the right idea (bring back some high-tech manufacting to the USA, don't rely too much on services alone - that's what tangible goods and an healthy economy is all about) but for the wrong reasons.
Okay I'm starting to hurt now
crooked Donnie needs to wake the fuck up so he can rage and sperg out to further commence the decline
>>60120393>>60120383My fucking money what should I do bros?
>>60120379I invested into eon like a fucking retard hoping big funds would move money into safer stocks before the weekend, instead they pulled out altogether, this is an actual crash we're experiencing
>>60120408Run to the bank. NOW
>all the incels in here who voted Trumplmao
threadly reminder: the markets still think that the tariffs aren't gonna go through
when premarket open?
>>60120370The US market's reaction to Trump going full retard is completely justified but I think European and Chinese markets are overreacting. The US economy is large, yes, but it's only one country and tariffed countries can trade with each other to offset the loss to their American business.
Is it still time to short? US is still asleep after all. I can see the open being worse than the futures
>>60120416they probably wont
>>60120416I don't think they do anymore, europe is blowing up right now and the us will be much worse than yesterday for sure, hope they shit themselves in the weekend and back down a bit
>>60120422the US is almost half of all global trade, you can't just replace that by trading with each other lmao
how is everyone doing? I am glad I started to hedge yesterday and I am sitting on cash, so should be alright. I wouldn't want to be all in right now that's for sure.
forever young I want to be forever young
>>60120408During covid I had to sit holding the bag for 2 years for it to recover. I also had a bad time 5-10 years ago with T stock. Recovery too a whole year.Essentially you can't sell and you will recover eventually. People who trade for a living may cash out some stuff to have liquidity and make up the difference but it's very dangerous.
This is like losing 15 E6 characters in a single day *sigh*
remember how there were a bunch of europeans fleeing to the DAX a few weeks ago and it was having a big run up?yeah they all just got rugged, nowhere is safe
>>60120427I mean trust in the US is already completely broken but I hope soIsrael and Argentina already bowing to trump and removing whatever tariffs they had may embolden him though who knows
>>60120493>they had may embolden him though who knows
>>60120487Star Rail or Genshin?
>>60120438That would be true if the US actually provided anything of real value to the world in return for the goods it imports. That's not what it's doing though. Basically, the US has had a privileged position for decades in that it controls the world's reserve currency. It provides the world with a stable medium of exchange and in return it gobbles up ungodly amounts of the world's products and services by printing money and exporting the inflation overseas. American consumers aren't actually producing enough to justify their high consumption, they just lucked out and where born in a country that shaped the global economic order to suit itself after WW2. Now guess what happens if countries band up and find an alternative to the US dollar?
-1211 on djia-615 NAS-165 S&PImplied opens
>>60120493Don´t think the East Asian powers and the EU will go sicko mode on Dons D like Milei and the Israelis have.
>>60120487You just made me feel bad about my losses, it was just a number to me.
You should have voted for the black woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbxjTzEbLmI
>>60120467thats what you learned from covid wtf?no unless you got millions you cant liquidate in a snap, you need to use your advantage as a poorfag that you can liquidate your entire position instantly and also buy back in a snapit s such a radical fundamentals change you cant be asleep on the wheel while big funds are liquidating over several days
oh no whats thisI AM FINE WITH THE EVENTS CURRENTLY UNFOLDINGhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glf8sbuECJo
>>60120500might be trying to cover his ass legally (lol as if that matters anymore) since his whole power to impose tariffs come from the super filmsy national emergencies he's called>>60120516yeah don't think so either but he already got his talking point that his strategy works
>>60120447I bought a fat bar of gold back when the price dropped a few weeks ago and most of my savings are in a fixed interest deposit in a big bank so I'm fine, but still I'll probably lose 2-3 weeks worth of wages in the stocks which pisses me off because yesterday I said to myself don't fucking buy and the first thing I did when I woke up was fucking buy
>>60118364this is why he keeps trying to fuck them over all the time?
>>60120489of course it's not safe, euro economy is highly integrated with the american market
It was tempting to buy yesterday but closing at tge lows was a bad sign
Holy shit.
>>60120540it's only a beginning, anon
>>60120516china/japan/korea already met to discuss a united front against trumps trarrifs. these countries hate each other. they also haven't met to discuss economics in 5 years. we just can't stop winning
>panic bought SOXS last night>up 18% since thenHomy shit
>>60120489cars, machinery, pharma and banking were obviously going to get fucked no matter what, but fucking electricity companies collapsing is where you know this is serious
this is the most retarded financial crisis of my lifetime
Trump is old. What is the chance that he will get a heart attack and drop dead, saving the world economy?
Yo chat, is this real?
>>60120577brought to you by bored incels
>>60120008Hahahahahahahahaha
>>60120580Palace coup is practically impossible anon, say what you want but America is a functioning democracy and republicans will ride and die with him until republican voters ditch Trump which they won't.It's gonna be fun 4 years until blue wave hits and *fixes* everything
>>60120124it won't bottom out until mid-april at the earliest, and might just keep going until may.
>>60120008honestly Chinese import tariffs don't hurt the US nearly as much since the Chinese don't import nearly as much from the US, but things like the rare earths restrictions will hurt a lot more.
>>60120559BOBO PLEASE SPARE MEMY RETIREMENT MONEYS
I'm actually considering cutting my loses at a few hundred bucks, this shit is not going to go back up in months and I don't want to hold this dead weight
The Switch 2 is going to cost 700 USD here. I can't take this much longer.
>>60120606they also did this>China to impose export controls on Samarium, Gadolinium, Terbium, Dysprosium, Lutetium, Scandium and Yttrium
>>60120321you already got a couple in the senate who shat over some of the canada tariffs. If this shit keeps going, we might see a real party split.
kek SOXL BAGGIES
WHAT THE FUCK DID I WAKE UP TO????????
>JPMORGAN RAISES RECESSION RISK TO 60%: WSJNONONONONONONONON
ShortingVIX was a mistake
>>60120628Holy fuark. Are we hitting a circuit breaker today?
>>60120619>it's fucking realSELL SELL SELL SELL
good morning, america
>>60120408double down
>>60120623SOXL about to hit $8how low will it go, back to the 2022 $6 lows?
Kek brace for 25% inflation at the bare minimum. If I were Powell, I'd give my resignation now, say fuck it fix your shit yourself, and fly away to the sun.
>>60120606China can just continue to subsidize production, trickling down to mining, all the while setting up mineral export tariffs. I don't want to be a doomer, but the US can't win a trade war against China without allies.
>thought trump would cuck so I slurped>he is dead set on continuing this warWHATS THE FUCKING PLAN? SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT HIS PLAN IS!
Vix over 45 now
We should see a minor bounce pre market in the coming hour, I think.After that there may still be a non significant bounce right after open, but I'd say the pre market bounce is going to be the last reliable stop before a total collapse.
This is legitimately the Great Depression 2.0 and we are going down 90%. So far down about 8%
>>60120599>but America is a functioning democracyAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHThe current shitshow even being a thing should tell you it's fucking not. Emergency tariffs, my ass.
>>60120667Trump has been a secret Democrat operative this whole time.
>>60120580>>60120599>Everyone is already begging for Black October and a Government of National Salvation to happen We're speed running this
Please add a link to suicide hotline in the next general. Our SOXL sisters don't need any more I-told-you-sos, they only need someone to listen.
>>60120693it's gonna come back
Kek, got a reassuring email from my broker.
>>60120681A regime that thought it could be voted out of power wouldn’t have done this. You’re in it for the long haul amerilards.
>>60120693Based and kys pilled./vig/ had this at one point and it saved many lives.
Boomers have the seething so fucking hard right now. Their 401k's are getting raped beyond belief. GET FUCKED FAGGOTS.
>>60120667He's a fox news boomer anon. Cramer might as well be his economic advisor.
s&p500 is going to hit 4800 over the next few weeks/months.
>>60120667This is the plan. A completely isolated protectionists US with no imports or exports whatsoever
>>60120667BUT THE VOICE OF THE PARTY WAS LOUDER
>>60120725I am reminded at this time of the Monroe Doctorine.
This is how communist revolutions happen guys. Get ready.
There is no market crash in U.S.A.
>>60120712they still will vote trump
Give it to me straight bizIs this a short term blip or the start of a recession
okay shan't be touching stocks again until we reach the dip, the good thing is we'll either make a lot of money or be so fucked money won't matter anymore
>>60120743XOM to $20
Dow futures are not looking pretty after China's response.
>>60120743https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-stock-market-04-03-2025/card/jpmorgan-raises-recession-risk-to-60--clWSymXLSyvXZ7fPu6g6
>>60120743Literally a recession.
if there was any truth to the idea of 'muh hidden powerful elites', they'd have him snuffed out ages agoit's all so boring
Something is actually happening for once
>>60120759>>60120768Nononononono this can’t be happening
>>60120734
>>60120743we have to wait for the US markets to close and for the weekend's announcements but if they don't back down this has the unironic potential to be worse than the great depression
>>60120580Apparently he's already standing dangerously close to windows.
>>60120785>but if they don't back down if what doesn't go back down?
>>60120725Republicans need to get over their obsession with isolationism. It is a failed policy.
>>60120793
>>60120719>monthsat this rate give it a week
>>60120771The Elites are real, people just forget they are ego-midwits who you can flatter, take their ngo money, then hang them with the money they gave you Some of the funniest seething I have seen is from Billionaires who went all in for Trump last year and only *just* realized Trump was serious about tariffsHitler also took all of his local bankers for a ride by pretending to be a rational leader in a suit while meeting them then took their money for his meme shit
So I guess the shakedown was yesterday, the shitting your pants and running happens today
>>60120791they the american government, aka trump and his bootlicking stooges
>>60120681But anon, America is a democracy and 2024 election is the best indication of that. Millions of people voted for Donald Trump against their best interest and the interests of big business. Rule of people doesn't necessarily produce best results. Remember 2008? TARP barely passed and the fallout of saving the US economy as a whole spawned the tea party. Meanwhile in Europe measures taken by politicians mirrored the public opinion, the will of the people and resulted in 15 years of lost economic growth due to austerity. Europe punished banks and big businesses, we can see how that worked out in the end. Americans are getting the taste of real democracy and the bitterness that comes with responsibility. You guys love to dunk on lobbyists but they're the unsung heroes that keep the economy churning and prevent regulatory fuckups, clear useless red tape and make things more efficient.Lobbyists are the heroes Americans don't deserve, the ones they need right now.
>RUBIO SAYS `MARKETS WILL ADJUST' TO U.S. TARIFFShmmm
>>60120795It wasn't their obsession until like 7 years ago, it was Trumps obsession. It's solely because the party prostrated themselves before Trump and their voters have become braindead zombies who follow his every word and will vote out any Republican who advocated for free-trade or sound foreign policy.
>>60120785Wdym worse? Trumps depression will be the greatest, the best.
>>60120820oh sorry, i misread
PG green
>>60120830Yes the es piss 500 will adjust 1-2k points lower accurately reflecting the less efficient economy
>>60120821Americans are about to find out Democracy can't cope with the demands needed to be relevant in the 21st centuryYou need to have 5 and 10 year economic plans. You need planned economies. You need long term thinking. You need mass anti-corruption campaigns. All of this is structurally impossible in America's system
soxl premarket -17%
>>60120830Did...did he just tell us to dilate?
https://www.chinaeducenter.com/en/learnchinese/lessons.phpY'all need it
I think I might change the password on my brokerage account so I don't sell OR buy anything for a few months.
>>60120836most beautiful depression you have ever seen
Look it at go
>>60120851is trump trying to force the US to try and mirror China? their system seems to be extremely successful so far
>BREAKING: California to ask countries to exempt it from any retaliatory tariffs on the US, per FOXAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
God i wish there was a viable, moderate third-party that won't do retarded shit like this. The closest we get are a bunch of idiots larping as some meme-shit from Europe.
>>60120830You can also adjust to a gunshot wound by dying.
>>60120866>trump trying to force the US to try and mirror China?Yes, that is exactly what they are doing. However China's system is structurally impossible in the US unless there is a Maoist revolution that kills and resets the US for one or two generations first.
>>60120851Luckily, democracy was fake all along
>>60120868HAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAIT BEGINS
>>60120868please Cali, just secede
>>60120811The problem is, nobody knows what the fuck this demented orangutan is thinking. He might come out tomorrow and say lmao no tariffs. People act like he has a plan because he's using human tools. He's just a fucking monkey sawing wood.
>>60120274>final blowyou wish, now the eu will make a move, then he will retaliate on the chyna tariffs, then he will start threathening a more serious conflict with the canucks/danes
>>60120881Yes, but their fake system also can't do it either
>>60120868The absolute fucking state. Does California not have a legal team to tell them they literally cannot do that.
Stockuck bros..... Gold and Bitcoin are holding up well while our "safe" portfolios are dying
>>60120705kek
>>60120914>>60120914>>60120914new bread
>>60120851>You need to have 5 and 10 year economic plans. You need planned economies. You need long term thinking. You need mass anti-corruption campaigns.This. Tariffs could work if they came together with solid plans to reindustrialize the economy. Instead you gonna have 4 years of retardation until orange retard is out, no one gonna follow along knowing that dems will be back.US needs to be turned into dictatorship like China to survive, too bad right wing retards will burn half of the country to prevent something like that from happening.
>>60120910they already do that by doing targeted tariffs (also known as normal tariffs a couple months ago) on products made on red states, ie bourbon
>>60118356imagine not making money with puts, thank god for this generational shitshow by donnie.
>>60120878And that’s what’s happening
>>60120799KEK
>>60120868''Ok if you join the European Union''
>>60120427>>60120416Bro...Next week Euros will hit back at the US services sector where America actually makes a fuckload of money off of the Union with its software, consulting services and all sorts of professional services in a move specifically tailored to kick lil' Donnie in the nuts. You haven't seen shit yet.
>>60120313rip the fuckers buying vix puts
