Fuck USA edition>Suicide HotlineHelp is availableSpeak with someone today988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Charts/Screeners/Data:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://finviz.com/https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Live Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business>Options:https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htmhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Boomer Investing:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.portfoliovisualizer.comhttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/Previously on /smg/ :>>60127675
>>60128672Have you considered what zero rates are going to do in current economy? Treasuries rates are already pretty high, if you start flooding economy with free money again, they are going to the moon. Right now, I don't have any trust in US stocks, but still respect cash and T-bills as safe assets. If US start taking out trillions upon trillions of high interest debt to double down on this madness, I'm out. And I have a feeling I won't be the only one.
Why so many giantess pics i already masturbated 3 times today
Gme baggies get the rope
I can't believe this homo is begging for QE and Zirp to come back so he can pretend to be an economic genius.
>down 6% YTD>market is down 14%>I'm beating the market
>>60128822>trump begging for lower rates Lmao was that his plan all along?
What are some cheap lucrative options I can buy at the bottom?
>>60128822>largest intraday point drop in dow history
>>60131221>not using percentagesHoly brown.>i ain care bout no "PER CAPIDUH" sheeeit
>>60129301what even is the long-term idea of gamestop that gme holders think will happen? switch 2 will be the only console with games you can trade in. all the stores are in strip malls with 0 foot traffic. whats their future?
>>60131258They just want to make the funny thing happen again so they can get someone else to hold their bag at $X where X is how much they need to be set for life.
>>60131255Btw, to pre-empt the brown cope, per capita is relevant here as a concept of not understanding ratios. It also reminds me of when they say "Biden got the most votes in history!".
kek soxl baggies
>>60131265Imagine simping this hard on a Mongolian basketweaving forum. Touch a vagina you pedantic faggot.
Next week on /smg/Please look forward to it!
>>60131264they memed once and got addicted to the adrenaline
>>60131295>TLRYwtf I thought that shit died
>>60131295>blackrockIts so over.
>>60131276Any advice on when I double down on SOXL? It hurts so bad!
>>60131295>day 3tariffs go into effect, markets dump 10%>day 4china tariffs go into effect, markets dump 10%>day 5market is hysterical, market dumps 10%
>>60131313Days like this I'm glad I'm too pussy for leverage.
>>60131323What are the odds that Trump and friends buy up everything on "day 6", and he reverses everything day 7?
>>60131264i watched the bed bath & beyond cult evolve, i'm very excited to see what the post-bankruptcy gamestop cult is like
>>60131342non-zero, I'd say about 25%
>>60131323EU retaliations are gonna be centered on digital and tech sectors, that's when the real hurt will come.
There's still green, so it's not the capitulation yet. t.knower
>>60131329You just need to pair it with the right RSI. Because I do think Semiconductors are the future I played it dumb but if the Nasdaq drops 40% it be very smart to buy TQQQ.
> China has hit back hard, including not only mined minerals but finished products such as permanent magnets, which will be difficult to replace, analysts said. owari da
>>60131323>day 6europe retaliations roll in
I feel bad for anyone who wanted didnt sell and isnt holding cash right now.shit is going to plummet next week, especially Wednesday.
weekend theme songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS2KyK3pqj4
>>60131361>Nike stock upThose Cambodians are still getting rich off us!
If its down Monday, we are going into a bad recession. Crypto not crashing makes me think this is an over reaction.
>>60131373>China remains a key supplier of minerals to the U.S., ranking second only to Canada in overall net import reliance, and is the principal import source for many of the 50 minerals America considers critical, such as graphite, tantalum and rubidium.
>>60131383My net worth is 18% cash, 32% if I don't count my 401k
>>60131383I solded this morning, trump took all my gains away but I won't let him rug me.
>>60131405If it's green monday at all, it's just to pinch shorts.
>>60131295Damn is it bank earnings already next friday?? Feels like last earning season was just yesterday
>Trumps signs an Executive Order to keep TikTok up and running for an additional 75 days Let him cook
>>60131295This is what the end of America looks like
>>60131405It’s a man made crash. That’s why I think Nasdaq will crash 30% max. We are the second most obese oldest Presidents toilet heart attack away from a recovery.
>>60131436China already said they are not selling it
https://youtu.be/6kguaGI7aZg?si=qp2NYqRFGzMmYAsYPost thread sound track
>>60131295> Deltalooking forward to seeing the decline in foreign travel to the us.
>>60128822>Help is availableThanks.
>>60131436They should just ban it. TikTok is not hard to create.
>>60131405Not to say what Trump is doing isn't a madman move, but he did say he was going to do it. I'm wondering how much of this is stupidity, rocking the boat, and/or people getting mad at him no matter what. It was coming, he said it would and when, and many of the more active anons are making bank or at least have zero loss for it.
All in on UVIX hoping for a Black Monday
>>60131440You think we'll only go -10% from here? nice jokeThe stock market has been inflated as fuck anyway
>>60131369I don't disagree but like I said I'm a pussy. I'd be having a heart attack right now if I was holding that.
>>60131287>simping>pedanticDid you reply to the wrong person? I'm just not being brown.
>>60131436why rush the sale when you just got 75 more days of still owning it
>>60131346five more years!
So let me get this straight, USA exports digital services at 80% plus gross margins such as META, the EU exports cars at 14% gross margin (on a really good year) and the big fat fucking orange retard is seething about this situation?American greed truly knows no bounds
>>60131473They want the sale, easier to just take an existing IP and profit from itZ They were going to have one today but then China killed it in the morning as part of the retaliatory efforts. (Today was the 4/5 deadline to "ban" it, but the deal was on track until Tariff Timmy brought out the class presentation poster on Wednesday)
No one is asking the most important questions.Everyone is (purposely?) not seeing the elephant in the room.Banks.Do you really believe this level of shaking up shit has no consequences on the banks, and overall, the entire financial system? Buckle up, because once the skeletons get out of the Banks' closets, shit will be REALLY ugly.You haven't seen shit yet. And I'm not even talking about inflation and the consequences on them yet.
>>60131537bro this is literally nothing
>>60131537Jerome has made it so price pressure doesn't shock borrowing thoever
>>60131537Republic Bank, Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank already ate shit under bitch ass biden, nothing ever happens
>>60131295>bnyi tried working there and they never accepted me
>>60131569short their ass
>>60131537Banks aren't leveraged nearly as much as they used to be. They'll bleed a bit but it'd take more than simple negligence to repeat 2008. They'd have to be cooking their books or lying to regulators.
>>60131537Doubt it. Banks tightened their belts many months ago.
Is today going to be considered Black Friday now or is it not even going to matter after whatever shit occurs next week?
>>60131585Yeah the banks would never lie to us
>>60131477I think the main thing bring down stocks is uncertainty. I didn't forsee blanket tariffs on every country, but those who did obviously are doing well. Now its all going to be renegotiated which makes it hard to predict outcomes and do business. If thinks get more clear over the weekend we pump hard Monday.
>>60131585t. Bill Hwang
>>60131566it's kinda funny to think 2022 pre-scared banks into leveraging down which accidentally positioned them better for this complete comedy show
if this survey is anywhere close to accurate, it was to be fair only 240 participants from goldman of investors, then the market has MUCH more room to fall if tariffs either stick around for longer than 6 months or go higher. there's still a ton of, in my opinion delusion, that tariffs go away quickly>>60131436he's not actually supposed to be able to extend it any longer but given everyone is just shrugging I guess it'll happen kek
>>60131590Probably it's going to be light gray Friday compared to next week
>>60131590Go look at 2008. Even early covid if you're a filthy zoomer with ADHD. There's been plenty of crashes besides the Great Depression crashing one. Then come back and take an educated guess.
>>60131619External factors that can be mitigated with austerity or QE that make money printer go brrrrr. This is entirely self inflicted with no end goal beyond some cope mental gymnastics about reshoring or forcing people to live like Maoist Chinese peasants or market corrections.
>>60131537We will see next friday i guess
>>60131593Banks just care about making money, there's no need to make that risk if they can help it. You're being a little schizo.
is it bullish if the president of the united states mockingly posts a video of a platoon getting vaporized
>>60131687For MID, yes
>>60131687the markets dont care about that stuff (well they do care because of the Suez Trade but this won't really do much for that), it's just meant to rally his base of support on a bad day news wise
WHYWHY DID I FUCKING VOTE FOR THIS ORANGE RETARD
>>60131728Because you too are a retard
>>60131687RTX CHADS WE WON
>>60131735oooof
>>60128822KILL THE PRESIDENT>KILL THE PRESIDENTKILL THE PRESIDENT>KILL THE PRESIDENTKILL THE PRESIDENT>KILL THE PRESIDENT
no mr. glowman, I shant
LOVE THE PRESIDENT because he's crashing the markets so predictably
>>60131770but i like the guy and i'm making money
>>60131680My apologies for the difference in opinion officer
>>60131770You should post this on reddit and facebook for more likes and upbotes.
>>60131728If you didn't get your money out of the market yesterday, you were fooled once. If you didn't exit first thing this morning, you were fooled twice. If you hold until the end of today you are a bona fide idiot. The markets are not going to be a nice place to invest until this whole tariff mess is resolved which will take 1 to 2 years minimum but more realistically 4 to 8.
>>60131837weird way to say buy puts
Mental
>>60131728You obviously didn't vote for him
>>60131863
>>60131863Thank your Mr.President. But i'm growing tired of winning all the time.
>>60131863Market crash? What market crash? Everything is all right, here are the important events today, the fifth of April 2025.
>>60131863BASED WINNERWINS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL PLS IMPROVE
>>60131863He's doubling down? I should have went with my gut and maxed out on SQQQ. Missed multiple early retirement chances already because of undue caution.
we just hit the weekendthe market is dumpingif it don't recoveri'm thinking of jumping
>>60131884it's april 4th tho
>>60131903
>>60131894We truly are not meant to be protagonists of our own lives. No agency over our own bleak lives and no means of escape from the meaningless grind. Pass the rope, friend.
>>60131915>WHILE I WAS GOLFING I SAW A HOLE, AND THAT HOLE REPRESENTED THE NATIONAL DEBT, AND TO SOLVE THAT DEBT I'M QUINTUPLING ALL TARIFFS EFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY! MAGA!!!
>>60131313>Any advice on when I double down on SOXL? It hurts so bad!wow why would u hold actual soxl it's holdings are trashjust buy options on it if you want that exposure.. albeit it's easier to just get full nvidia/amd than being brought down by boomer trash like qualcomm etc
>>60131863>the stock market is the economy
I know the mood is kind of forlorn right now, but the thought of Trump supporters repeatedly "buying the dip" (especially for tsla) and then being repeatedly dumped on is hilarious and sad to me
The federal reserve doesn't look cooperative, so we're going lower.
>>60131939i'm further right than conservatives and debt is finance 101how do you issue notes for gold without debt, so people can live as they have since the stone tablet? it's interest that is dumb
>tariffs destroying FAGMANIts over AI nerds we're coming back and oldfag internet is coming for you zuccman and googleshits. Newgrounds, forums, and cloudflare free personal edgelord blogs. Wrestling is gonna be cool again and big dick energy nu metal is going to put your AI low T music out. Fancy advertising algos and bots will be gone. We're going back to adware bombing desktops and being as edgy and insulting on the internet as possible.
>>60131936i don't have any rope on handI have some paracord, but that would be weird
>>60131960bro you are a retarded poltard tourist
I feel like im missing something, why would Trump be so dead set on the idea of companies removing old factories to set them up in America when it takes a long ass time to build and invest in something like that, and he's shown already that he just changes on a random whim what he does with tariffsI feel like most companies will just play the waiting game until the tariffs get removed or until Trump is no longer in office and they get removed
>>60131983trust the plQn
>>60131946fellforitagainaward.jpg
>>60131894Poem anon died long ago, anon
>>60131983You are missing somethingWhat you are seeing doesn't make sense to you because you are looking for an economic rational behind it when there isn't one. This is happening because in trumps America economics is subordinate to politics, POTUS acts according to his own goals and whims which is then retroactively justified by his followers/pet media corps as some sort of economic policy
>>60131946>hilariousagreed>sadwhyits just darwinism in a new coatim sure there's plenty of trump fags that also saw what he's doing as batshit insane and shorted the market appropriately if you're dumb and gullible enough to get played that easily, you deserve to lose your moneyas the quote goes, "a fool and his money are easily parted", so what's wrong with that?
>>60131983>oh okay daddy trump we totally will build a factory in your great country>it's gonna take a sec>juuust a little longer>wait for iiiiit>oh thank god that orange turd is finally out of the office back to business as usual
>>60131983Some countries will take the bait and move companies back. Trump hates the service sector he gives no shits about fagman exports Also take a look at Nancy pelosi, Obama, Schumer and Bernie in 1996 and 2008, they justified tariffs on china. The democrats won't necessarily remove them when republicans lose for the next 20 years after trump, but look forward to juicy government contracts and government jobs
>>60132029>look forward to juicy government contracts and government jobshopefully some of it trickles down to state employee raises as well, some states have 25%+ vacancy rates on those jobs because their benefits keep getting cut
>>60132043But in 1933 the democrats did expand the government jobs and end tariffs for 20 years. Depends if we're dealing with modern or classic democrats
>>60131983my theory is he put up the bullshit reciprocal tariffs on everyone everywhere as something of a smokescreen and his real intent is to pressure smaller more pliant countries like vietnam into cutting shitty deals, then push businesses to move out of china and into those countries. which also means he can't back down from the tariffs or the plan dies.
>>60132014I have his poems txt file
>>60131863His voters aren't stock market people. They don't care if the number was green or red. They only care about the "real" economy which is price of food and services and how good the job openings are.
>>60132071>his real intent is to pressure smaller more pliant countries like vietnam into cutting shitty deals, then push businesses to move out of china and into those countries.i dont know much about smaller countries but are they that reliant on american exporting? why not just give cheaper deals to every other coutnry in the world to try to make up for the loss of the american marketsure you lose out on probably a decent amount of profit but you establish your country as a powerhouse in more places
>>60131983None of it makes sense. It’s all smoke and mirrors to placate the dumbasses while he destroys the economy. Commies did the same thing. It’ll be a lost generation. People don’t understand how much the rich hate the middle class.
>>60131323On what day do we see angry 401k baggies storming the white house?
>>60132029>Some countries will take the bait and move companies backdoubt.jpgwhen trump tried tariffs in his first term companies literally just waited it out
>>60132133normniggers dont even know what a 401k is
>>60131569I worked there almost 5 years in the middle office. You dodged a bullet. They're the biggest Jews when it comes to giving raises or benefit increases, maybe ever. They underpay for the industry in most jobs. Work for literally any other bank, including dinky local ones and you'll be happier.
>>60132071Could be. US desperately needs that to happen. Hell the world does.
>>60132071How money times do they have to say the end goal isn't to improve trade, but to kill it and force manufacturing back to the USA before you start to believe them? Yes they are that retarded, accept it
>>60131983The moron has said he is unwilling to negotiate, then he is willing to negotiate, and renegs on every promise he makes. Why the fuck would anybody make a deal or sign something with him or this admin, when it's not even clear it will be followed one week from now?>>60132029There is nothing more homoerotic than the desire to have a big manly factory job working in a steel mill while big buff daddy works there. The soi jobs working in the air conditioned offices are considered not sexy and homoerotic, and are thus despised. Interesting that the elite classes aren't the ones pushing their kids to work in these jobs though. Do you think we're going to see Barron working in one of these jobs?
>>60132080post them
>>60132185it's 730 lines of text
>>60132143Way higher tariffs in a combination with federal reserve rate cuts will flood the market with money, forcing companies to spend money to get rich before the inflation hits, that'll build the factories.Free money
Alright, here's the play.In a vacuum, the market should recover on Sunday and midnight Monday, then crab or dump for the rest of the day.So the play would be to slurp early then flip for max gains.But, we have to factor in the Orangegutan factor, which is illogical and insanely volatile.So I'd say the play for now is to wait and see for futures. If you bear now, the possible rally on Sunday/overnight Monday may hurt you or spook you.If you slurp now, Trump may (will) do something retarded again and the market tanks earlier than expected and the risk of some gains may not be worth how stupid this market is. This is what happened to me today. Fool me twice etcMonday between 3 AM and 8 AM EST should be the critical points that decide how the rest of the day looks like IMO.I'm personally leaning bearish, but I think its wiser to wait
>>60132071Bottom signal is when people stop coming up with retarded "theories" and just accept that Trump is a true believer and is imposing tariffs because he wants to and thinks they work.As long as people are still coping about his "plan" we have a lot more to drop lmao
>>60132200>in a combination with federal reserve rate cutsthis straight up won't happen I guarantee you, Trump wants the reserve to do a rate cut and Powell fucking hates Trump, Powell will happily just say "we're waiting for more research to be done" while Trump gets angrier and angrier that his attempt to bully lower rates doesnt happen
>>60132221>the market should recover on Sundayhahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>60132221Wdym on sunday?The maeket is closed
see you at 3600 mumu
>>60132239Futures are known Sunday evening, I think Robihood even lets you trade them at that time, idk about other brokers
>>60132239he means futes n00b
>>60132229Rate cuts have to happen otherwise the maga movement dies this year.Jerome will force trumps hand and a president has resources at his disposal to use against enemies
>>60132071Trump could be dead next monday he's too old to see this american utopia come true and I don't see anyone in his circle carry on with his dream or caring about it they're all grifters and retards.
wtf why is berkshire down so much I don't get it
>>60132239>he doesn't know about the weekend marketsngmi
>>60132264>Rate cuts have to happen otherwise the maga movement dies this year.yeah that's kind of the point, it's really obvious Powell is going to bully Trump as much as he can after Trump said he would do as much as he could to remove Powell from leading the federal reserve
Elmo has been glazing Trump 24/7 about literally everything so far but as far as I can tell he hasn't said jack shit about tariffs. Sacks hasn't tweeted in two days.Have the tech pros been taken out back? I can see a world where they spoke out and got told to shut the fuck up and fall in line.
>>60132274Their cash pile will be devalued by rate cuts. Buffet's investors are doubting the recession
>>60131964>Newgrounds, forums, and cloudflare free personal edgelord blogsbased>adware bombing desktopsoh god no some things are best left in the past and that is one of them
>>60132194are they any good
>>60132221EU retaliation not even announced yet. Full impact of the tariffs mot even felt yet. Calm the fuck down and just let this play out.
>>60132221You are a very judgmental person, if you don't understand something you could always ask instead of just assuming you are right and our leaders are wrong. It doesn't even seem stupid when your stock market drops 12% in two days you get at least a 1% relief rally.
>>>/bant/22485238>>>/bant/22485238>>>/bant/22485238>>>/bant/22485238
>>60132303Some of them might be
>>60132306It makes no sense why Europe will use tariffs if they say that they're a bad thing.
>>60132343>It's makes no sense for the UK to declare war on Germany after invading Poland, if they war is a bad thing
>The Telegraph reports that Germany is considering withdrawing 1,200-ton gold stockpile, worth $124 billion, from US over concerns over Trump's policies.What does this mean?
>>60132371War doesn't hurt your own country the same way economists are claiming tariffs do.America has always benefitted from declaring and waging wars on other countries, but economist's say tariffs are bad for your own country more
all right, let's see how many of you have crystal balls"in percentage, how much will the Dow Jones US total index drop by since its high of 61024.05 in Feb 2025?"I'm predicting about 30%"how long before the Dow Jones US total index recovers to its high in Feb 2025?"I'm predicting 3 years
>>60132409I'm not willing to even try to predict anything further out than 5 days at the moment.
Trump puts 13 billionaires in his cabinet and they let him wreck the world economy. What the fuck, man
>>60132420The billionaires will buy up everything when we hit the bottom. Keep the fuck up
>>60132390Have you ever seen Die Hard 3? Where they steal all of the gold from the Federal Reserve building in NYC? (I've been pushing for it to be the movie night for years...)That gold stockpile actually exists. The US stores gold for other countries for some reason.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaHkDYJ1Wko
>>60132420>crash the stock market and economy>all the people who already have a ton of money buy up all the rest of the stock>now the rich are even richer
crash continues on Monday or do we get a bull trap?
>>6013240922%2 months
>>60132447this minor dip transitions into a crash Wednesday
>>60132420Post portfolio 1PBTID tranny shill. You don't even hold any stocks.
>>60132447The entire global trade system is imploding and you ask this?
>>60132409>"in percentage, how much will the Dow Jones US total index drop by since its high of 61024.05 in Feb 2025?"40%>"how long before the Dow Jones US total index recovers to its high in Feb 2025?"March 2029
>>60132438Tfw no androgynous DDR psycho gf
post realized gains on bear/puti should’ve bought more lol
>>60131770based?
>>60132447We're a looooong way from the bottom my friend
>>60132420They thought they were in charge, they thought because they donated to Trump they could control him. Now they've realised that they're the suckers, he already has their money and they can't make him do shit. All of them have been dead silent on the tariffs, Elon has debased himself and cried on live TV for Trump but hasn't said a single fucking word about the tariffs or even acknowledged their existence. They tried to play Trump and found out who really has the power.
>>60131983>I feel like most companies will just play the waiting gameYup, that's whats gonna be happening.
>>60132494>They thought they were in charge, they thought because they donated to Trump they could control him. Now they've realised that they're the suckersThis is true of most of the billionaires, the ones that just spent their money on him.The ones in his cabinet, particularly Lutnick, are actual fucking maniacs.
>>60132408Tariffs are bad but if you don't retaliate your industries simply leaves and you're just as fucked but also cucked
>>60132419Where will we be in 5 days?
>>60132482She was pretty psycho
>>60132483particularly enjoyed cashing in on AMD. might rebuy puts monday
>>60132513Minimum 10% further down.I feel confident enough to say that Trump is stubborn and retarded enough that there's no way he'll have reversed course by then
>>60131373Cool, so now he'll hyperfixate harder on the Ukraine concept of a minerals deal
>>60132285I mean it's pretty clear the techcucks HATE tariffs but like good little boys refuse to comment on it for fear of trump
>>60132306That's the plan, wait and see. What seems almost like free money is shorting on Thursday or ahead of Thursday due to the CPI report and how shitty it will likely be.
>>60132537Exactly this, they're cowardly fucking worms.If the tide really begins to turn on Trump then they'll probably join in, but there's no way in hell they're gonna stick their necks out and be the first to speak up.
you guys realize trump, his family and his cronies all hid their cash in crypto ahead of this right? maybe one of his retarded sons will tweet about buying a dip in stocks, that will tell you when they're flipping the script on tariffs for reshoring over to tariffs for making epic deals
>>60131983Because he's a senile idiot. He thinks Fox is a more reliable source of information than his own intelligence agencies. He bases his decisions off of what his dick-riders on Truth Social say. He is the epitome of an angry, out-of-touch boomer who gripes about "muh jerbs" and vague-posts about government expenditures, while he plays golf and jerks himself off about what a great businessman he was for convincing his dad to leave him everything in the inheritance. He is every geriatric middle-to-upper management nigger who managed to fall upwards and refuses to retire because that might deflate their egos by a percentage of a percent, except he's in charge of the entire country.
>>6013256270 million cultists. Just look at this board and thread? We are as fucked as SPY is.Wonder how many faggots here followed Q.
>>60132619GO BACK! You do not fit in
>>60132627I’ve been here since 2008, and biz since 2017 you dumb tourist fuck. Place made me a millionaire >>60131313, and now it’s sad to see what dumb uneducated poverty fucks like you have turned it into.
>>60132663
>>60132574This is what people still aren't getting when they're coping about Trump caring. The guy doesn't give a single fuck, do you really think he'd let his family's accounts get blown up when he can just give them a heads up and likely never face legal action anyway. Everyone already forgot that he pulled a fucking multi billion crypto rugpull before even being inaugurated lmao this is not the same guy as Trump term 1. He is on another level now
>>60132574take your meds schizo.
OOOOH STOCK MARKET WAGIESMake sure you rest this weekend it's back to the cage on Monday.For us crypto chads? I'm sitting real comfy right now.
As a beginner whats the difference between betting and options? Isn't it all just speculation? Also any good video guides that teaches you everything about trading and investments? Someone that is based and pushing gay promos and scams.
>>60132696It's gonna be green on monday cope
>>60132707good luck
>>60132720tell me one reason why it wouldn't be
>>60132704Options in their best form are educated bets, not a roll dice. Ideally you have reasons to believe the underlying will move in the way you are predicting
>>60132390Why do you think the US will comply? lmao
>>60132679I genuinely do not believe he's smart enough for this to all be planned. He's idealogically committed to restoring and surrounded himself with yes men who just tell him what he wants to hear. Years of being worshipped like a God has fucked his head as it did Elon.
What's with everyone saying people are losing out, then claiming the rich will buy the dip?Are the people "losing out" actually selling their stocks now? Doesn't seem like they're investing if they panic sell.If the rich are buying the dip, why doesn't the average investor not wait out for a recovery?
>>60132742In what universe do you think tariffs being enacted next week is a bullish event? I'm contemplating folding and buying puts next Monday.
>>60132742The market hasn't gone down nearly enough to represent the impact of these tariffs. And there are still plenty of retarded retail investors, many of them in this thread, trying to buy the dip, and delaying the full crash.
>/biz/smg/ is just a bunch of seething reddit troonsI hope Trump dumps the market even more so you faggots lose everything.
>>60132781When everyone you disagree with is the same person.
The tariffs haven't even started yet you retardsAnd the impact of them isn't even going to be seen in a month let alone one day.This shit will go on for a long while
>>60132783This but unironically.
>>60132781Lmao, any of us with abBrain are shorting the market because we knew trumps retarded policies would do this. The more the market dumps the more we make.
Honestly quite impressive
>>60132798Yeah, no room for anyone who doesn't fit exactly into the obviously "us" and "them" boxes. Tribalism goodYou would kill your fellow American if you wouldn't get in trouble.
please keep going down i need it to go down my mental health relies on it going down
>>60132818I hate to break it to you, but you're not as special as you think.
>>60132822It will keep going down. How fast and how much more it will go down is the question
>>60132537>We need more Screeches and less Slaters>Get in the fucking locker Screech>Y-Yessir
>>60132830No shit retard, we have all known this since we stopped being 17. You are not having deep thought or even gray man thought.
Just FYI - there will be a liquidity crisis and XRP will solve it.
>>60132800>bobo holding out for more after a 20% dumpDisposition checks out
>>60132764Most countries are already bending the knee. Trump will probably lower the tariffs of other countries that are dropping theirs. China drops theirs over the weekend we are pumping 5% at minimum.
>>60132785Saw a quote where Trump seemed to suggest this will go at least 2 years or he sees manufacturing recover to his liking
>>60132926What part of the goal being to reshore are you not getting? The point isn't to lower tariffs, tariffs are the point, they want to force manufacturing back to the US.They are screaming this at you and you just cover your ears refusing to listen.
>>60132954>manufacturing recover to his likingWhatever that means. To fundamentally change the economy would take decades. It's at whatever whim he chooses unless congress grows a spine.
>>60132926Countries that don't have tariffs on American imports or the US runs a trade surplus with are still being tariffed. This isn't about trade deals or mandated buys of American products, he literally thinks goblins are stealing American gold out of the Treasury building. I am buying puts on Sunday to feed the bear
>>60131295For me, it's D&B.
i keep farting all day and cant stop almost sharting myself, is this related to tariffs?
>>60132973Read between the lines. We dont need 90% tariffs to bring back manufacturing. How have you not learned how Trump does business? You don't start discussions at your goal, you start them to your own liking and ho from there.Unironically go read art of the deal.
>>60132781You're getting hurt from this too, you're just too retarded and delusional to realize it yet.
>>60131687FYI it's a tribal gathering the Americans spent already 1 billion and have barley made a dent in the stockpiles
>>60133020>We dont need 90% tariffs to bring back manufacturing.The Tariff could be half that and it would still be catastrophic. Trump has never been a good businessman. You need to stop drinking the Cool Aid
Reminder that people are still coping and you'll probably be able to pull out during the dead cat bounce on Monday before everyone realises on Tuesday that this shit isn't getting reversed and the real crash happens. Be prepared to sell.
>>60133070How exactly are we even going to get a dead cat bounce out of this? Trump's an aggressive, stubborn retard and his cult is doing everything in their power to enable him and make excuses as to how this is the "Art of the Deal", actually. Except literally every single country on this planet have these things called negotiations rather than nuking everything on the table and then negotiating. It's like asking for a cup of water, the other guy knocks it off the table, and then says, "Okay, let's talk." How the fuck are you going to trust this asshole to not do the same shit all over again? Eventually, you're going to say fuck it and go elsewhere.
>>60133070or the EU drops another bomb
>>60132982Congress is full of cowards on both sides
>>60131313Any trade on SOXL at the moment has to be very short term. It will likely test $7 at some point in the near future, and if the market makes sense with how poor conditions are at the moment compared to 2022 (its last crash), it should surpass that level and hit, maybe $6.5 or $6. With numbers so small, dropping a dollar or 50 cents is a loss of like 10% or more even if nominally it doesn't seem like much.Only go for SOXL if technicals show it is oversold in the short term and politics aren't as much of a factor as they are currently. It is leveraged so accumulating short trades like that can recover you if you know what youre doing
Why can't Trump just print a bunch of money to keep the economy high like we did during covid?
>>60133131you also want to fuck the usd as the world currency?
>>60128822How fucked are we?
>>60133131maybe he will, he was literally the one that started doing it during covid anyways
>>60133153Absolutely fucked, it's too late now. The entire world sees us as an unreliable crackhead in a trap house. Trump could come out tomorrow and say "I'm wrong, I'm sorry I'm wrong, tariffs are bad, I'd thought it'd be a good idea" and go on an apology tour and it still wouldn't be enough.
>>60132274>wtf why is berkshire down so much I don't get itBRKB is like a bunch of apple stock, and financialswith some stuff in coke, and dominosYou can just look up buffet's portfolio. It's not rocket science. You can even copy him. He really likes apple. Guess what's down right now? Tech stocksTo be fair to him, checking his graph, it's up since Feb 20th which is pretty impressive honestly.But it got trashed with the tariff announcements like everything else starting april 2nd.
>>60133153that will probablybe finein a few yearsas long as ukeep buying itregularlythe whole timeno matterwut
>>60132306>EU retaliation not even announced yet. Full impact of the tariffs mot even felt yet.>Calm the fuck down and just let this play out.yep, the market will keep crashing until the tariff tantrum is overWe haven't even seen the full reaction of all the other countries. It will keep crashing, or at least declining, until we have some kind of idea of how the other countries want to play this.Which countries play ball? which countries double down and retaliate? which countries are just neutral? those are the big questions
>>60132409>"in percentage, how much will the Dow Jones US total index drop by since its high of 61024.05 in Feb 2025?">I'm predicting about 30%I think 20-25% since a lot of them are blue chip stocks. but we got some tech stocks still in there>"how long before the Dow Jones US total index recovers to its high in Feb 2025?">I'm predicting 3 years6 more months until we hit the bottom, 1 year to recover to ATH after that
>>60131258GME is a spac at this pointit's also beating the market
>>60128822Is it too late to buy SOXS and the rest of the inverse leveraged ETF's? I have massive fomo and couldn't turn into a bear sooner.
>>60133302Not too late but gains will be slower going forward. Maybe wait for retards buying the dip to push it down a bit on Monday
>>60133346>>60133302>>60128822Which of these should I put into?
>>60133153we will only be progressively more fucked the longer that this goes on. it's less a matter of what will improve (spoiler: nothing will) and more a matter of damage control.
>>60133363Depends on your risk tolerance
long leveraged NVDA when the market bottoms and hold to make it OVERSOLD
I went from 45 to 25 thousand these last 2 days from buying soxl lol
>>60132465During the covid crash the S&P had a -9.5% day immediately followed by a +8.5% day. Bear market bounce days are violent. Be careful about making bets on what you think the market OBVIOUSLY ought to do.
damn
If Trump was kicked out of office, the stock market would immediately increase by 20%
>>60133587
>>60133555Not happening again, we can't afford to print trillions again.
The techbros being cut off from the admin is one of the biggest bear signals to me. All who dissent will be purged
>>60133592I don't think so. It would just signify weakness and cause more panic and divisiveness. You can stop writing out your cringey fan fiction though.
>>60133620It's okay, sour grapes aren't for everyone.
>>60133627What?Are you....retarded?
>>60133613meh it's finethe purple line is cash, so I have a good cushion if I need it
>>60133620Trump himself is causing the panic and divisiveness
>>60133680>>>r/eddit
>>60133687What is this fucking cope? The current meltdown has nothing to do with tariffs?
>>60133386med-high risk tolerance
Trump says that chip tariffs are starting 'very soon'>Trump says that chip tariffs are starting 'very soon'Trump says that chip tariffs are starting 'very soon'>Trump says that chip tariffs are starting 'very soon'
>>60133815SOXL bros....
>>60133815I'm all in SOXL monday open
You do have a game plan for this, right anon?Sold basically everything for when the economy REALLY crashes, buying the dip massively and putting dividends into chinese ETFs until retirement.
>>60133862i plan to move to montana and live in a shack
SOXLsisters...
>>60133892>>60133827>>60133839>SOXLIt can't go lower it's gonna lose all it's value
>>60133909SOXL to $2 then reverse split
>>60133892just dont sell lol just never sell and you never lose lol its that simple kek soxl baggies
I'm gonna be a trip now to see what happens
>>60133892Throated
>>60133839I’m waiting for $7. Than I’ll be 80% SOXL. Hope I don’t get fucked as I don’t want to go back to work.
>>60133633You are.
>>60133815What a genius, truly a mind of our generation.
>>60133862my plan is UVIX
>>60133116What scares me is the marketcap. I didn’t notice in 2022 NVIDIA was 800 billion. At 3 trillion how much higher can it go.Still, 80% profit growth and a 34 PE…
What is the best website to keep track of stocks, etf's and dividends that is free?I have tried:-GetQuin: This thing is dodgy as fuck. Has wrong data for a lot of stuff. I don't get it. For instance, this LU0080237943 is a money market fund, but when you look it on this website, it fluctuates a lot. Makes no fucking sense. It's a shame because it looks nice-Stock Events: It doesn't show monthly dividends for some reason, just some useless bars per month with no numbers. Also does not show daily up/down for some reason.-Yahoo Finance: Does not have automatic dividends-Portfolio performance: SameThis fucking sucks. How the fuck do I do this im so fucking stressed trying to keep track of shit man.
>>60133839>>60133994Why are people so bullish on SOXL as opposed to a more diversified LETF like TQQQ or SPXL
>>60133273Went for a walk and listened to the Goldman Sachs podcast. Not even, as nobody knows how tarrifs will actually impact figures. Until we see bad news flow through the accounting department there will still be uncertainty.
>>60134036Fucking everything uses semiconductors, and the demand seems like it's never going away
>>60134036because semiconductors are da foochur and it's the biggest 3x leverage index of the semiconductor industry
>>60134047That doesn't guarantee US semiconductor companies specifically will do well
>>60133302I sold my SOXS today that I bought during overnight at 3am because holy SHIT
>>60134062but what if they do??aha, now what smartypants admittedly with the CHIPS act there was genuine reason to be bullish on american semiconductor biz but then Trump raped it because it had Brandon's stinky name on it
bros im making so much fucking money this past 3 months has been like the markets during covid when the stimmy checks came through its literally free fucking money everywhere how much longer can we keep this up? i almost have enough to buy a house in cash i turned 5k at the start of the year into 490k mostly in the past 2 weeks. i love fucking NVDA and i LOVE PUTS thank you options market!!!!!!
>>60133363not on the list, but LABD and CARD are printing hard
>>60134068I just feel like with an LETF you'd want it to be as diversified as possible to reduce instability.
>>60134036My last 20% is for TQQQ as it is much much safer. For me it’s how much better SOXL performed the last two crashes. Also I’ve fully bought into the Ray Kurzweil singularity hype and believe semiconductors are the future.
>>60134079why would you want your volatile asset index to not be volatile thats like alchohol without the buzz >but its safer!ok fuckin nerd, go play with your calculator
>>60134036What's the point of risking time decay with LETF when you can buy MSTR and get a call option with no expiration on BTC? Everything goes up or down at the same time, so who cares? Just buy the fastest horse that avoids time decay.
>>60133839>SOXLIt can go lower, much lower. We are still above 200MA weekly. Buy MSTR and avoid time decay.
>>60134045Demand goes down. The entire economy is based on consumption and demand. It's a recession. It's going to happen.Tariffs either>go into effect, causing an increase in prices and corresponding reduction in demand>don't go into effect, and we continue this never ending edge of your fucking seat back and forth foreverThere's no way out of it.
>>60134098I was thinking of going 5% Bitcoin if it ever crashed to 60 again. You think MSTR is better?I always here about this company, never actually seen the numbers. That’s wild!
Eurofag here, you should be investing in companies and assets the president and his family personally like. You don't understand this because you believe in capitalism and free markets and never had a kleptocrat president but they are basically standard issue in Europe.So invest in Ford and crypto. Also GME.
>>60134117Who doesn’t love edging!
https://pastebin.com/Mjfu9KXa
>>60134150tried to find a better place to paste md format:https://pastemd.netlify.app/pastes/rE2aZ6cJAIINVrpziIh2just some concluding thoughts generated by a convo with LLMs
SOXL NIGGERS LMFAO. HELLO FROM /GME/ YOU DUMB FUCKING NIGGERS. IM DABBING ON YOU. NIGGERS LMAO.
its so over
>>60134173the show never stops
TOTAL SOXL NIGGER DEATH HAHHAHAHBABAHAHAHAB HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHABABHAHAHABABHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHhhahahhahahahahhahahAhhhhhhhhHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHABABAHAHHABABAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAH
Why the fuck is AMD dumping harder than Nshittia? Down 50% over the year. They can't catch a fucking break.Maybe it's time to load up on AMD?
>>60134185gaymd's p/e is 93 man
You can always take whatever the niggers from reddit here say and do the opposite.
>>60134179I'm getting my back blown out by all of thisI might never retire
>>60134167>>60134150I am callsanon btw, but I no longer identify as such. I haven't been posting often as I rebuild to rise like a phoenix from the ashes. im really excited about what I've been working on.
>>60134185>Why the fuck is AMD dumping harder than Nshittia? Down 50% over the year. They can't catch a fucking break.because AMD is unironically a shittier company than nvidia, with worse earnings, revenue, everything>Maybe it's time to load up on AMD?probably not, no. bet on the winner. Don't try to be smart here.if you want to bet on the losers, and the little guys, buy a small cap value ETF. that way you diversify, you're not taking too much risk on any one stock getting wrecked, and some of them probably will.AVUV for me is the best one there
>>60128822Bought some soxl calls while it was at 8 bucks.Question. Let's say it goes back to 30 within a few months or whatever.When is it preferable to EXERCISE an option over just selling it off?
>>60134220>Let's say it goes back to 30 within a few months or whatever.lmao
I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.I want to get off Mr. Trumps' Wild Ride.
>>60133153just buy one share. If it tanks more, buy one more. If it tanks more, pause and wait until it starts to recover/better news the tariff issue is dying down, buy one more share. Next year you will have forgotten this happened and be in the green again.
>>60134237kek baggies
>>60134220>When is it preferable to EXERCISE an option over just selling it off?Tax reasons. Exercising an option is a purchase, not a sale. The cost of the option just gets added to your cost basis for future tax calculations. Other than that not much.
>>60134214Did you buy calls this week
>>60134167it was LLM generated, but this was the third revision of me reading every line, and the discussion was brought to the crux point and cultivated by me, fwiw. it typed what I wanted it to type and I spent more time reading it than you did, fwiw. it's just expressing some thoughts I have on the future of retail trading and crowding as LLMs continue to get better. Honestly, in my opinion though I think even with basic LLM stuff we're hitting an IQ ceiling though. Programming is hard not because of the language barrier but because of breaking problems down. LLMs can't break your intentions down for you, and that's always been the hard part. so im not really worried about retailers coming out the woodwork to evaporate edge. I imagine we're at least 10 years away from my concerns being a real problem. but in my head I can definitely see a weird new schizo generation of LLM traders
>>60134244>Tax reasons. Exercising an option is a purchase, not a sale. The cost of the option just gets added to your cost basis for future tax calculations.What's the optimal play if my leaps go deep into the money? I've had this happen before and just sold them but it feels like I'm missing out by not exercising and wheeling them
>>60134234getting real tired of 1pib google chart screencap posts here
>>60134271the 1pibs will continue posting until morale improves
Why are the communists and wall street agreeing politically
>>60134261I went from $3k to $300k to $3k November to jan. I haven't bought anything since, except on my paper accounts. I was previously looking for non-atuomatable edges like reading financial statements and emailing investor relations for low key insider info, but that system broke down (investor relations will lie). I'm now focusing on my last ditch effort of quantitative trading, which I saw no potential in, but it's been wildly successful so far. I talked myself out of it for so long.
>>60134271why aren't they buying the dip
>>60134269do you want to own the shares lol? then just exercise it (assuming you have collateral to cover the shares and commission). At least you can hedge against the shares in a downturn oh right I forgot the word hedge is a slur on /biz/ nevermind, NEVER protect your money my bad
>>60134261im on my laptop so can't post my out of sample stats but it's been really fun. I figure worst case I end up with resume material, im going to make an LLC and hire myself. so I'll have financial and software dev experience on my resume, years of exp. can't go tits up!
>>60134237Are you me?
>>60134279what do you thinka bout buying soxl leaps?
>>60134280they don't even have brokerage accounts. their sole exposure to the market is some 401k their employer is match contributing to.
>>60134243>kek baggiesif you think an SNP500 index ETF won't recover... I have news for you
>>60134278They're both ran by Jews
>>60134269>leaps go deep into the money?do you want the stock or just play options for the money? I think it depends on if you thinks its a good company and want the stock, or a shit stock you don't want to hold. You should know before you buy, the price can change dramatically at the last minute.
>>60134295I wouldn't buy any long term investments right now but my opinion on this stuff diverges greatly from the consensus here. since trump came in I've been focusing on intraday strategies with statistical edge. a shorter time frame will (generally) increase your Sharpe ratio. In general I don't believe in using my own personal judgement for investment decision any longer. Maybe at a high level some discretion towards parameters should be used, or at a deep value level with a small allocation. My trading is mostly a lower end (in terms of frequency) HFT system at this point, 30-70 trades a day, no overnight holding. in the future this income will free up to develop different models and have longer term stable holds potentially, I enjoyed researching stocks but for now I need highest probability to get back to $300k ASAP as possible. my testing indicates 10-20% daily returns right now using leveraged instruments. obviously capacity will be maxed out eventually but I can worry about that later
>>60134269>>60134287Exercising an option destroys any extrinsic value that it has left. If you aren't exercising to avoid short term capital gains tax, then it's better to just sell and buy stock. Do the math though.
>>60134279>I went from $3k to $300kyou should have dumped that shit to secure the 300K. If your trading scheme is any good start small and build some cash. Along the way you find something that need fixing without risking too much. As your experience and cash pile builds you take on bigger bets, but if you are not continuously gaining then something is wrong with system or approach.
>>60134295>I don't believe in using my own personal judgement for investment decision any longer.to be clear I mean the judegment should be deferred to whatever model you're running.>>60134325not that easy with a low cap stock without liquidity, and I was also getting false insider info of an upcoming contract. don't tell me what do nigger.
>>60134220when you actually want the underlying thing. I let my TSLZ $3 call exercise along with a $5 put
how come I accure interest on my etf but not my cryptos? Why am I getting paid interest on my etf?
>>60134325it was dec 31st when I hit $300k, the worst day to sell since you can wait literally a few more hours and defer a $50k tax bill a year. anyway, everyone has their excuses but mine were pretty intricate and unusual. im not trading like that any longer for now anyway, purely quant this go round.
>>60134324well he said leaps so it would be long term capital definitionally if he holds close enough to expirywhy would you exercise way earlier anyways...? unless you think its going to stagnate and really want to protect against it I guess? idk
>>60134336>tell me what do niggeryou will do what I say, you lost a lot of money and someone needs to tell you that so you don't fuck up again. Of course the insider info was false 0 99% of business/wall street is a fucking scam.
>>60131507the chart was ordered by magnitude of the drop, not percentage?
>>60134369I made 20% on that trade, I didn't lose anything. I didn't realize, however, that investor relations will lie to your face. >you lost a lot of money and someone needs to tell you that so you don't fuck up again.liek I said, don't tell me what do, pavement ape. my entire strategy and outlook has 180'd, and it's going great.
>>60134387>pavement apeThat's Xir Pavement Ape to you and don't forget it. Now get back to explaining your scam, I mean strategy.
>>60132274Berkshire is down because Berkshire owned stock is down. That's what they do for a living, own stock (and private companies, which are obviously also being hit hard). As someone else said, their info is online.The important bit right now: Buffett has been selling shitloads of stock in the past year, including Apple. He's sitting on more money than he ever did before, saying repeatedly in the past year that there are no good stocks to buy aka they're overpriced aka it's a good time to sell.At age 94 he's simply waiting it out. Watch and learn, he's going to make one last epic kill.
>>60134397essentially I switched to a 100% quant approach, which I was cynical about before. initially i thought wall st. computers made it impossible to run profitable algos at a retail level, so my edge would be in emailing investor relations at small companies and combing over small cap financial statements to catch stuff LLMs wouldn't pick up on. I think I was very wrong though, and my results so far have aligned with my out of sample testing. As unreal as it sounds my paper traded statistics have reinforced my expectation of around 10% a day. Obviously slippage etc will become an issue as the order size grows, yada yada.
>>60134387I assume you’re back above 3k now? Godspeed. I’m $150 (1%) away from climbing out of my -50% on the 1year from getting fucked by TSLA puts expiring the 28th of March, all thanks to this tariff idiocy. Feels nice to have a 5-digit portfolio again.
>>60132409>"in percentage?"50%>"how long"Recovery will start the moment Trump leaves. This administration is completely inept in every way. The damage they're doing to the USA as a brand name is incalculable. And they're definitely not done clowning yet. It's not entirely inconceivable that companies will start leaving the US. My bet is on 2035.
>>60134432>I assume you’re back above 3k now?No, I have no money. I'm sure that soon I will though. I'm not worried, never been more confident. It's weird. I'll trick people into getting loans that I stick into my account if I have to. I have friends who will be running my bots soon who think I have money and I'll start with them. >I’m $150 (1%) away from climbing out of my -50% on the 1year from getting fucked by TSLA puts expiring the 28th of March, all thanks to this tariff idiocy. Feels nice to have a 5-digit portfolio again.Lol, ranking up in digits is what life is all about. godspeed. insane you held onto Tesla puts for so long lmao, so much pain I bet.
>>60134497I had bought the puts after TSLA was at $230 and doubled down a few times. It then shot up to $280. I have 663 TSLZ instead, as those cannot expire.I sold a TSLA $265 put for $100 profit on 4/3. If I had risked holding it onto expiration day, that would’ve been at least another $2k in the bag.
I bought tsla puts the friday before inauguration and sold for 10% profit the very same day.I would be retired by now
>>60134602>taking profits on options at 10%why would you do this? the risk-reward ratio seems horrible
>>60134621I was second guessing myself and was worried about holding over the long weekend so I took the easy out
As a newfag and stocklet what the best place to start buying stocks?Robinhood?
>>60134663You should get a call from your female broker after signing up for /smg/
>>60134602If you bought 500p on spy a month ago you would be also retired now
>>60128822>>Suicide Hotline>Help is available>Speak with someone today>988 Suicide and Crisis Lifelineoh shit its the big one isnt it?
market recovery on april 21 after passover
>>60134663r u 5?
>>60131295Kura sushi is fucking good I wish they had it over here
>>60131486Comfy
Kek baggies
are we going lower next week?
What should I long bros? No techie stocks
So where did all the money from the crash go? If a stock was worth $100 and now worth $60, where did the $40 go? Did it just disappear? Why doesn't the fed use this opportunity to remove that money from circulation and help fight inflation by reducing the money supply they created from printing? Apparently trillions have been wiped out yesterday, just as easily as the trillions that have been printed over the past several years.
>>6013240970%2 decades, USA japanification starts now
>>60135056yes, my puts demand it
>>60135108Back into cash, but most likely not into the same pockets they came from.
>>60135108That money never existed in the first place. Say a company issues 10 shares, which are bought by 10 investors for $1 each. Now two of those shareholders trade their shares between themselves, while the other 8 just hold. Those two can bid up the price to $10 a share, and the company will be worth $100, even though only $10 was invested into the company in the first place.
>>60135108you have to go back
>>60135159So the fed cannot just take this cash?>>60135171That's stupid, that's what been propping up the economy, fake money that doesn't exist? How is this nonsense even allowed when it can affect millions of people's lives?
>>60135108it's market value, it doesn't exist in money. only those who actually sell their shares and get money from the buyer have the value materialize for them. the value of traded shares compared to market value is small
>>60135190It's not stupid most of the time because the price of stock tends to follow the performance of the underlying asset. In this fake and gay market where people talk about PE ratios of 30 as if they're completely natural though...
BIGBEAUTIFULCRASH
>>60135193>>60135203Suddenly I have a lot less sympathy for the crash, it just seems like a whole load of nonsense. I feel more sorry for the ordinary worker who is going to get the consequences pushed onto them rather than any stock owner.
seems like with lower energy prices from the oil futures, there will be one thing driving prices down
Is there any chance whatsoever that we pump on Monday? Is there even a chance of a crab?I'm thinking only if more countries make deals with trump then it might
>>60135293literally why would it crabbut just wait for futures tomorrow
>>60135293He's basing the tariffs on trade deficits. How does a country with already low tariffs like Britain that imports more from the US than it exports even attempt to make a deal? Developing countries like Vietnam don't even have the capacity to import more from the US, even if they tried their best to.
>>60135301Crab untill another country either apply counter tariffs or makes a deal. I expect eu to counter tariff and then we dump hard
>>60135293What fucking deals lol.
>>60135351they already started applying the 10% tariffsthere's no deal anyone can make with this administration that won't be walked back on in 2 months
>>60135293there will be a dead cat bounce next week, market makers will liquidate shorts and puts from retail coming in late
>>60135293They've already come out and said multiple times they have 0 interest in any deals. Making deal would defeat their goal with the tariffs. Any talk of deals is just them trying to slow the market crash.
Monday is going to be grim. I'm not even sure reversing the tariffs is going to help at this point
>>60135582we told you to buy puts
>>60135586I'm in cash
>>60135596so you hate free money?
Get out while you still can.https://x.com/IrvingSwisher/status/1907829995214434715
>>60135599I'm too pussy
>>60135642Isn't this what Erdogan did to the Turkish central bank
>>60135646enjoy being poor I guess, puts are free money as long as this retard is in charge and the markets still keep thinking it's all a bluffonce he tries to >>60135642 then we'll see the really fun numbers
>>60135293Deals like nafta 2.0 that trump negotiated with mexico and canada during his first term, only to throw away and start trade warrs with them at the start of his second term? No rational actor would believe in trump's word at this point.
>>60135586what did you put puts on and what was the strike price and experation date?
>>60135875515 SPY 4/11I'm thinking of selling on Monday or Tuesday
>>60135642Man if he actually fires Jpow and installs a sycophant we are really going to go down hard.
true patriots are buying 3x 0DTE VIX OTM calls btw
Is it time to buy call options now?
NEW THREAD >>60135990NEW THREAD >>60135990
>>60135293I believe we usually would be overdue for a short relief period starting Monday or Tuesday, from previous patterns I've noticed. These small relief periods usually last between 1 to 2 weeks of mostly upward movement.But there's no telling if after the crash this pattern will hold or not. Personally, I'll bet on this pattern holding up in some way (maybe crabbing instead of upward movement, maybe starting Thursday after all the inflation reports are out instead of Tuesday) but be very careful about it.
>>60136118there's no way you're getting relief with tariff implementation days in the weekif anything there might be a tiny delusional slurp until the 9th before it gets raped, but the week will end negative
