Why shouldn't every country domestically produce as much stuff as possible instead of depending on "world trade"?
>>60137351economies of scale + comparative advantage
>>60137359Is there any actual evidence that getting rid of our tariffs and "competing internationally" resulted in innovation, job security, better quality of life, or better quality products? Was replacing all the manufacturing jobs with "service jobs" (and thus getting rid of America's working class and self-sufficiency) a net positive or negative for America?
>>60137359this is a partly accurate take, and its why every nation in the past has been trending towards this, but its not the core reason.>>60137351The REAL reason every nation has been eroding their protectionism and lost interest in maintaining inefficient industries, is because our debt-currency ponzi scheme is *designed* to fail, and one of the better ways to mitigate the destruction it causes, the endless cycles of inflation, deflation, recession, depression etc, is to forge a trade deal with another country to get them to throw their debt-currency into YOUR country to help stem the tide of inflation and debt, and increase GDP to slow down the cancer of debt-currency by private banks owned by the (((elite))).The central banks that operate in the west, in asia and most of the middle east are the true, core, root cancer killing the world, and final end-boss of globalist tyranny. And nobody can beat them, they'll crush anyone who tries, just ask Putin, he's the latest on the chopping block for kicking out the IMF and instituting a gold-backed currency inside Russia.
>>60137377it was for anyone with an IQ >120. wfh white collar jobs didnt exist in the 1950s.
>>60137351Because specialization is more efficient than generalization. It's the same reason people train for specific careers instead of trying to do everything. A self-sufficient economy will be more expensive to run. Is that worth the upsides?
>>60137377No, there's no evidence either way for massive counterfactuals like this, too many assumptions
>>60137359Economies of scale is bullshit. Beyond a few dozen million in revenue, economies of scale is just brand recognition and strongarming.The inefficiency in corporations is staggering. The inefficiency and corruption in international trade is beyond comprehension.
>>60137406They only existed 2020 to 2026.
>>60137417what's funny is this "on shoring of manufacturing" meme could have succeeded in some capacity if it was a targeted effort i.e., bring back high tech manufacturing (batteries, medical devices, pharmaceuticals, semiconductors, etc.)of course nuance and planning are lost on orange nigger and his opportunistic scam artist kike cabinet members.
>>60137438>>60137417but it goes without saying that ~50% of non-white americans plus probably 20% of white americans are literally too fat and retarded to ever work in med device manufacturing, semiconductor manufacturing, pharma manufacturing, etc. and so we would have to face an ugly but necessary question: what do we do with subhuman retard nigger cattle, other than kill or enslave them?
>>60137438Did you miss the TSMC presser?https://tsmc.com/static/abouttsmcaz/index.htm#:~:text=About%20TSMC%20Arizona,and%20strengthen%20national%20economic%20competitiveness.Or the Apple announcement?https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/apple-will-spend-more-than-500-billion-usd-in-the-us-over-the-next-four-years/
>>60137377Yes, the evidence is that incomes are higher and goods are cheaper in the US than almost anywhere else including other developed countries.
>>60137459TSMC fab is falling behind schedule and i think orange nigger's CHIPS act fuckery is putting it at risk.i hope apple succeeds. they're going to need a lot of luck when normalniggers stop buying $2300 made in china iphones in the meantime.
>>60137551Apple is sitting on like $300B in cash or some outrageous number and had been for like two decades. They'll be perfectly fine.>TSMC fab is falling behind schedule and i think orange nigger's CHIPS act fuckery is putting it at risk.Nah, stage one is already complete and outputting product at the same level as Taiwanese factories. Of course that was a retrofitted, already extant building, and now they're building new buildings, but construction delays are nothing new.Anyway the main point is that we ARE bringing a lot of factories and manufacturing jobs back to America. With any luck they'll all be new build too, so we have state of the art tech to coast on for the next half-century.
>>60137406People with >120 IQs are ~9% of the population
>>60137377It annihilated the working class, whose life expectancy, marriage rates, and quality of life is drastically lower. It reduced the quality of goods due to planned obsolescence becoming the norm and Vietnamese peasants not making quality products. In the long run, you can't have a country that the working class has no stake in and doesn't benefit from, which is why there is a West-wide revolt against the managerial class who would prefer that the machinists overdose on fentanyl so they can be replaced by jeets in the establishment of the global favela
>>60137665>the value of my labor should be artificially increasedwe call this communism, typically
>>60137694Odd how every country prior to 1980 was communist then, since no one had been retarded enough to expect their country to compete against the global pool of labor and thereby reduce their living standards. It's actually your brand of borderless libertarianism that is most similar to communism since the outcome is indistinguishable
>>60137711>supply and demand is communismarbitrage is unavoidable. this is why vigorous black markets always form
>>60137718If you compete with slaves you become a slave. I'd prefer to have a country instead, thanks
>>60137406Neither did home pcs you absolute retard
>>60137665don't you think there might be a modern problem to this, very real issue, instead of Ms Havisham-maxxing
>>60137730you were the slave owner in this relationship. I suppose that was too good for you
>>60137730then you agree that it makes sense to offload shitty production jobs to third world countries that can do it cheaper, right?
>>60137733Elaborate. I believe this is primarily a result of declining income potential for working class people due to their jobs being offshored>>60137742Actually hundreds of thousands of good manufacturing jobs left my state and devastated local community. the only beneficiaries were upper management and large stockholders, which do not a country make>>60137749It does not. It's good for the working class here to have good jobs at the steel mill (and good for national security to have things like steel production here) instead of walmart-maxxing
>>60137742>you were the slave owner in this relationship.Bro you need to take a step back and reconsider the argument you're making.You're SO butthurt about a 10% drop in the stock market, which you don't have any money in because you're a paid shill anyway, that you're making pro-slavery arguments to people who also don't have any money in the stock market as to why they should be against tariffs that will improve their job prospects.>>60137749>shitty production jobsThey're not shitty for the people who would be doing them. Those people are low IQ (under 120) and currently don't have any good jobs available to them.It is WILD how much shilling is going on after a relatively tame market crash.
say its a tiny island why should it bother
>>60137793what makes you think that college educated americans would want factory jobs? they barely want blue collar jobs
>>60137694>anything not Jewish crony capitalist extreme is communism
>>60137832sir you were the ones telling people public healthcare is communism and europe is socialist
>>60137818Probably the huge quantity of workforce dropouts (shouldn't have to mention the NEET problem on 4chan!), the number of college grads doing gig work or low wage service jobs, and most importantly the large number of people who don't go to college or had no business going. Also perhaps the fact that Americans happily worked these jobs prior to them being shipped out? Also worth remembering that elites WILL NOT stop at manufacturing, they want to replace your white collar job too. Jeets will kill your tech and finance salary just like the working class has already been murdered in this country. Stop this now or become the global favela
>>60137854>neets>wanting to work at all much less in a fucking factorykek
>>60137852>I don't know how IDs workFolks, they're not sending their best de geso
>>60137446I work in a semiconductor fab and trust me the fat fuck electrical contractors get hired here and paid handsomely
>>60137867crazy how neets only became a thing at scale after free trade separated wage growth from productivity and reduced your job options to years of college or McDonald's!
>>60137916also underrated is how free trade lets employers treat you like shit because they can hold the threat of outsourcing over your head. also contributes to neetdom
>>60137351>Why shouldn't every individual grow all their own food and produce every item they use on a daily instead of depending on "trade"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI9TLDIPVcs&list=PL8dPuuaLjXtPNZwz5_o_5uirJ8gQXnhEO&index=3
