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you're fired edition

>How to commit suicide
https://www.animatedknots.com/noose-knot
https://www.target.com/p/9-5-34-medium-helium-balloon-kit/-/A-13567277?gQT=1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bridges_in_the_United_States_by_height

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Charts/Screeners/Data:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://finviz.com/
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Live Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/
https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business

>Gambling:
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Calendars:
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htm
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Responsible Investing:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

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>>60155996
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAjEW2zgs_o
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How much rekt are you?

I'm down 7% YTD.
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First, for that Ezy Money
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SAY IT AFTER ME

DEFLATION IS BAD
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hopefully every tranime troon kills itself
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S&P futures only down 2.5%, what's the panic
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I give you 1 billion USD, but a requirement that you must spend it in the stock market on Monday.
What do you do first? No early market trading. It arrives at US market open. Anything not utilized disappears at US market closing. Anything used you get to keep.
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>>60157099
HE'S WORRIED THE ANIME WOMEN NOO
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>>60157127
Im only down 3.97% but i also dont have much invested yet. My boihole doesnt hurt near as bad as i thought it would
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>>60157099
Feeling smug being a life long democrat.
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>>60157127
-6.3% YTD. I was holding strong with my shorts, but for some reason didn't buy anything before this week.
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THIS MORNING I PLACED A CALL
THE ONE THAT SHORTS IT ALL
EVEN IF I WANTED TO BUY
ALL BULLS SIMPLY MUST DIE

NOT FOR THE MONEY
NOT FOR THE GAINS
NOT FOR THE BOBOS
JUST NO MORE PAIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8HhOMNrulE
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>>60157147
-2.5% SO FAR
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i understand you're all very angry but you have to be honest with yourselves
you didn't say thank you
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>>60157134
>cheaper prices for goods and services is le bad

said no one ever.
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Silver : Gold ration is 100
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>>60157077
These aren't real hardened stock market investors. Real investors don't shit their pants when something happens, quite the opposite. Stock market investors enjoy happenings.
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i dont trade im just here to enjoy the crash
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>>60157127
5.26%
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You didn't get HOOKED did you /smg/?

https://streamable.com/tzpkzj?t=41
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i just want to go toot sleep but i am stressed amnd this website is funny.
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This is the best buying opportunity since 2020, OPEN THE FUCKING MARKETS
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>>60157160
why would you be proud about being a retard
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Literally what the fuck do I buy tomorrow? Everyone is yelling at me to buy shit, I have a bunch of cash ready to buy stuff but I don't know what to fucking buy.
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>>60157160
This market crash is intentionally designed to wipe out all Democrat's and their institutions' wealth lol. You're still pretending like this is some gay high school popularity contest, when you're literally on the losing side of a Bolsevik Revolution.
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The internet is picking up on the term "Orange Monday".
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>>60157199
Being too early is the same as being wrong.
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>>60157212
Don't buy, wait for the bottom
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>>60157199
Explain why the market won't drop for the entire week, allowing you to buy even cheaper if you just wait?
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i have two grand loaded up going for a moonshot. do i buy calls on UVIX and SPXS or am i buying puts on alibaba, coinbase, and robinhood? dont care about losing it. figured id ask you degenerates
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>>60157127
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>>60157127
YTD is fake and gay.
-0.8% 1Y
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>>60157222
i'd prefer "black tuesday 2", perhaps "black 2sday"
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>>60157212
No one knows other than the anons paying attention to other market trends.

Big things happenings on Monday. Big things! You won't believe it. Then Wednesday, it will be magnificent. Anon you will have the best day ever on Wednesday. The best!
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New Zealand explain yourselves.
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If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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>>60157147
Anon, futures are never up or down more than a point pretty much always. This shit is going to straight to circuit breaker after open just like every other world market.
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>>60157229
>Explain why the market won't drop for the entire week
Explain why the market won't drop for the next 1384 days
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>>60157244
>>60157127
Lots of investment companies are fudging the numbers past Wednesday.
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>>60157127
+157%. Last friday kicked me down from +180% down to this.
For now I'm just watching the spectacle in the sidelines, waiting for my move...
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>>60157151
I wait for the dump and then buy. Not rocket science.
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what tickers would you buy tomorrow to do a 15%-20% ish swing trade?
I have 500k€ doing nothing in money market funds, interest rates are at 2,45% here so i was thinking fucking hell this crash needs a counter trade pump soon. I dont think the lows are in, but I think we will see counter pump rallies (pic related).

How do you rate this for tomorrow:

30k€ AMZN
30k€ MSFT
30k€ APPL

Just wait for the obligatory 15% rally and dump it all, then wait for lower lows.

>how do you know if you buy tomorrow it will stop crashing
You don't. You just buy on long retard red candles and hope for the best. If I fuck it up, at least im holding good companies that should recover and run faster than SPX or whatever once it recovers.
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>>60157251
They depend on the AUS economy which will Wether this storm better than the US
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I'm going to time the bottom.
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>>60157222
> two grand
> """moonshot"""
Don't bother. Unless you leverage your balls off on a 0.1% chance play, you won't get anything worthwhile. May as well buy two grand worth of Mega Millions tickets.
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>>60157216
>This market crash is intentionally designed to wipe out all Democrat's and their institutions' wealth lol
People with this level of intelligence have the right to vote in America. Sad!
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>>60157099
Seriously don't kill yourself. The market will recover
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CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL
NOT HEAL
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>>60157271
Orange monday*
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>>60157160
the democrats haven't done a thing to prevent things from getting to this point, haven't lifted a finger to stop any of it while it was happening, and won't do anything until ice starts sending them all to el salvador
the least bad option is nothing to be proud of
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>>60157127
+5% YTD
+14% 1Y
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>>60157212
SGOL and SPY after the market dumps.
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>>60157288
WASH AAAAAWAY
WHAT
I'VE
DONE
https://x.com/Crypto_KD7/status/1907873258395021584
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>>60157127
I'm still up YTD by a slim margin. It's not going to last. I really regret not dumping everything because I wanted to avoid paying cap gains tax. Gonna see if I can short to make up for some of the losses or at least protect what little I have left in gains.
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>>60157281
You don't need to be exact, just in the general area.
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It's over
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i just got a call from this fucking weirdo named charles schwab talking about a ''margin call'' i called him a nigger and hung up, anyone else getting these scam calls lately?
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>>60157151
All in TQQQ.
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>>60157258
Market makers won't allow it there will be pump days to rape the short sellers
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>people are going to wake up tomorrow morning and hit the fucking sell button like its the end of everything
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>people who panic sold last august and never bought back in are now the in the profits
just kill this stupid clown market already

fucking burn it all, it's just not worth it
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Anyone else here buying this temporary dip?
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>>60157320
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>>60157127
Still up 7,5% YTD, but that'll change very soon when EU markets open
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>>60157282
thanks for the input didnt address a single thing i said
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>>60157281
don't get too much blood on your hands
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>>60157127
After tomorrow I will be down 6 figures in 2025.
It's gonna be sick
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>>60157319
how much margin do you have? You have to literally activate it on your account or you don't have any so you know.
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>>60157337
yeah
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What happens if JPow cuts? Do the rest of the world just bend their knee?
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>>60157326
I'm going to wake up naturally about 2 hours after open and then buy after all the NPCs stop-sell's went off.

Thoughts?
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>>60157271
>>60157222
>>60157245
what ever its named, it NEEDS to named after trump
this crash is solely due to trumps retarded actions, every republican needs to hear that for next 100 years for supporting this retarded faggot
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>>60157127
Investing account: -37%
All investments (including 401K): -17%
Net worth: -11%
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>>60157368
cuts do nothing for this kind of volatility
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>>60157273
Go buy a fucking lottery.
The 20% recovery won't happen in a single day, it's not like you're going to miss it if you don't buy tomorrow. You have all the time in the world to wait until that recovery actually starts happening.
Don't be retarded, wait.
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I'm fucked, I have 85k in my registered account and it's maxed out and taking a huge loss it was at almost 100k a few weeks ago. I have 30k at my disposal right now, do I transfer my last 20-25k leaving 5k for just a bare minimum fund and open a cash account. The transfer will at best process and put the money in my new account by like Tuesday if i am lucky I will be fucked for tomorrow......what do I do bros.....
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>>60157374
Orange Monday
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>>60157372
enjoy 0.95^4 for the rest of the week
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>>60157374
Trump Dump day
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>>60157231
Brokers profit from volatility nigger fsggot
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>>60157286
>it's scared
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>>60157368
It doesn't make sense to cut rates to accommodate Trump's retardation when they could be forcing Trump to knock off his retardation so he isn't forcing us into a recession in the first place
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>>60157355
This will be my biggest loss on the market since I started trading 10 years ago. Somehow I'm unbothered. I can't explain why.
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Sell UVIX tomorrow or hold for Tuesday/Wednesday to be even worse?
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>>60157374
Trumpcession
Orange Monday was better tho
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>>60157406
you are doing good then
learning to cope with the stress of volatility means you are learning
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>>60157391
My TFSA was at $123k and now its close to $110k. Gonna try and slurp with my non-registered account
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>>60157368
Jpow doesn't really control rates, they are already cutting over massive bond demand as people sell stocks
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>>60157127
33% down from my highest point this year, but from a "realistic" point where I should have considered selling I'd say its more like 25% down. Holding basically just NVDA during a massive market dump will do that to you.
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So what happens after the stock market crashes?
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you can tell the board is flooded with newfags form the lack of OC and pink wojaks
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>>60157393
It doesn't matter because it will recover and I bought cheap.
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>>60157368
If you listened to his last speech he said he ain't cutting until at least 2 quarters from now, when they'll be able to process the inflationary impact of the tariffs.
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The car's on fire and there's no driver at the wheel
And the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides
And a dark wind blows
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Tqqq options
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>>60157251
Man, my brain really is fried. I am disappointed its not a bigger drop
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>>60157231
If you dont care about losing it, calls on Semiconductor ETFs. Take your pick.
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>>60157432
RIPPEN
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>>60157437
sure if you don't mind waiting ten years to recover to monday's prices
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>>60157432
Recovery. This has happened several times historically you zoomer faggot. Hell you might be one of the 40+ fags who suddenly forgets Early Covid, 2008, and the dotcom bubble.
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>>60157391
I have no idea why you have so much invested in unity but you see to have a lot of VFV (why is that symbol listed twice?) and according to reddit and boglehead retards and canadiancouchpotato you're solid. Unless you're 50 years old or something, stiff upper lip right? I have a lot of VFV (specifically VTI in usd) and I'm in the same position, got absolutely heemed. I have about 200k altogether in VTI/VXUS in usd and XEQT in cad. Only thing to do is buy more with cash but I'm antsy and I don't know _what_ I should be buying more of.
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>>60157459
The dot com took 15 years to recover
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>>60157427
>they are already cutting over massive bond demand
You fucking /pol/tards are so fucking retarded holy fuck
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Someone fucking REPLY and stop spamming dogshit.

Im still up 50% on my MSTR (average buy 188)
I sold 50% on xmas

I have 500k in cash.

What the fuck do I do?

Could I trade these swing moves with MAG7 tickers? If I fuck it up, at least I hold good companies. Everything will go up intandem when the market recovers anyway so whats the point of fucking indexes. Just buy the fastest horses.
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reminder that they can literally just shut the stock market off if they feel like it
thats what they did in russia after the invasion
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>>60157127
up 40%
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>>60157099
>Niekki only down 6.8
They dumping money or something else lol
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>>60157447
The EU literally just announced tariffs on semiconductors. Why would you suggest calls? That's just throwing money away.
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>>60157487
>What the fuck do I do?
Lend me 10k
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>>60157147
thank god, i wouldn't buy it puts if it opened at -10%
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tfw i bought in 2020 so this is just a buying opportunity to me
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>>60157467
>and I don't know _what_ I should be buying more of.
Try buying copium pills.
This is not the bottom. You can still mitigate your loses by selling.
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>>60157459
WE HAVE NOT CROSSED UNDER THE 200 MOVING AVERAGE SINCE 2008 PHAGGOT
IF IT DOESN'T PUMP WE ARE COOKED
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO RECOVER WITHOUT ZIRP+QE? TAAAAAAARDO
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>>60157490
>they can shut down the stock market
Key difference is that ruins trust in the exchange mind you they ran that with GME in 21
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>>60157490
Technically true I guess, but there's no reason to. ICE gets paid on both sides of trades.
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>>60157467
Fuck you just made me realize that my parents have close to a million in GIC since they are retiring this year. Might have to convince them to slurp the crash
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>>60157467
>VFV
>VTI
>VXUS
>XEQT

>how to invest like a complete and total faggot and lose all your money 101.
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>>60157151
SOXS
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>>60157508
I HAVE NO INCOME
I NEED TO MAKE MONEY AAAAAAAAA
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>>60157513
I bought in March 2020 knowing it would go back up
This one feels scarier
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>>60157527
get a job loser
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>>60157487
Just look at the trend, 5%, 5%, at that rate, if we’re looking at about a 75% correction, the time to buy is in two weeks
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>>60157487
DCA SPY to the bottom
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>>60157222
>>60157374
I liked "Orange Swan"
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>>60157127
down 12% ytd
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>>60157426

I made a cash account but haven't transferred anything yet.....if this really is going to be a huge recession and crash...I will need that 30k to just feel safe really.

>>60157467

It's because the VFV is in two accounts, I started a RRSP retirement account a couple months ago and bought some VFV to just hold in that and then the rest of those stocks are in my TFSA. The unity is well....a retarded store I bought it like 4 years ago at like fucking 135 a share.....and tried to DCA it down as much as I could but it kept fucking dumping and now i'm here....I was so fucking stupid and Unity pumped last month like 35% in two days because of their quarterly report and I didn't sell because I thought it was going to pump more and I was in the green 800 USD and could have dumped my bags now it's dumped to 16 dollars a share and my average share price is still 28.....
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>>60157151
sgov :^)
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>>60157459
Fun fact: Took Microsoft 15 years to recover from the DOT com bubble. let that sink in, one of the most successful companies in history that nearly ever computer runs it's operating system
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>>60157496
I'm not saying buy tomorrow. Just keep an eye on them because they are some of the most beat up ETFs in the entire market right now. At some point sooner rather than later they have to rebound.
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>>60157402
What does wiping out the wealth of 'democratic' institutions even mean you mongoloid? That's like poisoning the air supply and saying "hurr we did it, we got those libs good". I'm not even American, its just a tragedy that people as dumb as you have so much undue outward influence on the world. The tariffs hurt producers of goods and services more than any other base and people who work in that sphere are largely republican. Unionized workers, construction, trades, factories, whatever. The tech companies and their leftist voter base largely sell services around the world that are not as strongly affected by tariffs. The tech companies also have a global market and offshore bank accounts (applel), whereas the manufacturing base in the US and their republifat voters are much more localized.
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Lock in your votes for tomorrow.

https://strawpoll.com/6QnMQDLN7ne
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>>60157487
>just buy the fastest horses.
retard, no one knows what the fastest horses are so that's why you buy SPY.

Why do smart people like me have way less money than retards like this?
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>>60157271
is this a buy signal?
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>>60157563
nigga we burning this motherrfucker down, we're are modern day barbarians and the stock market is rome
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>>60157529
Trump can't be a president for that 3rd time, so it will go back eventually.
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>>60157433
been here since baggies been a baggot, but i dont visit that often. especially post the bant split.
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>>60157560
and Intel never recovered
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>>60157536
what's a job?
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>>60157560
not really a dot com bubble issue though. if you weren't a zoomie you'd remember that microsoft's portfolio for most of that period was dogshit and a string of bad decisions one after another.
> nearly ever computer runs it's operating system
and that is at best 10% of its revenue
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>>60157560
Fun fact: Japan took 35 years
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guys please, what were you going to do with all that money? retire early? we both know that couldn't have happened
now please come back to the elon factory, we need you here :)
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This is fun and exciting but unfortunately nothing ever happens so we'll all be back to normal within a couple weeks.
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MY 401K FUND IS JEWING ME I CANT PUT IT ALL INTO BONDS
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>>60157374
what about The Donald Dump
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>>60157563
>The tech companies and their leftist voter base largely sell services around the world that are not as strongly affected by tariffs.

Then why is Tech the most beat up and sold off sector in the entirety of this stock market crash so far? Are you incapable of doing something even as simple and basic as look at an ETF heatmap? You're also getting heemed on your gay ass broad-based ETF portfolio, fuck off you dumbass leaf.
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so what are you guys doing
I'm just sitting in a MMF waiting to divine the bottom (got out of voo @ 530)
too stupid to figure out puts otherwise I'd be doing that
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>>60157564
5 based off Nikkei idiots will buy back
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>>60157602
most fund managers won't let you instantly move them
you are probably fucked
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>>60157600
anon thinks SPY will be back to 610 in a couple weeks
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Crash baby crash! A global reset is long overdue!
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>>60157563
It's ok, find some solace in the fact that those people will eventually die alone in a pool of their own vomit under a bridge.
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>>60157600
This shit wont go back up as long Trump is around
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>>60157602
You are an NPC. Sorry to break it too you. Every other person is calling their 401k fund and asking to sell.
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>>60157564
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>>60157625
This Trump is to unstable I assume if house retakes power of Tariffs maybe definitely will rebound if dems win but that same fear will appear again
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>>60157618
Megumin EXPLODING all the markets
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>>60157622
>It's ok, find some solace in the fact that those people will eventually die alone in a pool of their own vomit under a bridge.

Kek, post your portfolio like that dumbass Canadian so I can see how much money you've lost so far too.
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>>60157433
I heard mods started banning pink wojak threads
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>>60157622
cope, seethe, dilate.
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why not buy this once in a decade dip?
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BOBO's WW@
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>>60157523
why is that? its passive investing, im not smart enough to pick individual stocks with the majority of my cash and all evidence shows that index funds out perform retail and even managed (mutual) funds almost every single time. what specific arguments do you have? i am
>XEQT/XGRO for a 90:10 equity/bond split (will start buying only XGRO soon)
>VTI/VXUS in usd 66/33 us and international markets, i get paid in usd sometimes i so buy these instead of XGRO because i dont want to take the conversion hit

the rest outside of meme picks are
>CASH.TO, HISU.U
>canadian HISA accounts i chase for promos

I need some USD bond exposure i guess to be more of a boglehead, but what am I doing wrong exactly
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>>60157672
>once in a hundred years dip
fixed
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wait do anons really think that "democratic institutions" are associated with the democratic party and not the basic day-to-day operation of the country
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>>60157658

H-hey why am I catching strays.....I'm that dumbass Canadian
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>>60157672
people already bought the dip last thursday and look how that went
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Futures only down 2.5%
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>>60157676
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How tf is my sgov down today of all things?
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>>60157692
>hes thinking about going all in
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>>60157692
Burgers are sleeping, when they wake up on Monday they will start panicking
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>>60157672
I don't have money and I don't now how to time the bottom.
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>>60157713
We're all awake
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>>60157099
What we should be worried about is what happens when the US loses its special status. The only thing that kinda holds this country together is access to cheap goods. What happens when we don't even get that? What else does America have to offer?
The American dream has been dead, you won't retire, you won't own a home, you will drown in school debt, you won't have healthcare... theres nothing left.
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Why cant' i put my entire 401k into t-bills which pay 4.X%? why are the bonds available only 2.8% or so
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>>60157662
they'll ban those but they won't ban the five hundred /pol/ and /leftypol/ battle ground threads obliterating the board
the sheer amount of completely made up fucking terms I have seen on this board in the last week by dunning kruger retards making shit up in their head and then pretending its reality has been immeasurable

not even some few hours ago there were literal baboons in these very threads saying chinese stocks were "unaffected" before any of their markets opened on the basis of absolutely nothing, and a number drooling retards nodding in agreement
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>>60157672
people want to buy the dip but they don't know how big the dip is
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>>60157099
so fake n gay its not funny
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>>60157715
Just DCA 1/10th of your budget at time if you're so scared.
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Is 20k CAD even enough to really make any real gains? I'm already down like 17k and I have 30k in liquid I can put into any accounts but want to not use it all obviously......I made my cash account but haven't funded it yet. I think I might just, grit my teeth and seethe over how bad tomorrow is going to be and just...not look at my account for awhile and keep my 30k so I can feel some safety.
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>>60157609
>Then why is Tech the most beat up and sold off sector in the entirety of this stock market crash so far?
Over the long run manufacturing and "republic" institutions will be hit much harder. Tech is being slammed because it was overvalued due to the AI hype cycle and people are weary because of it. Friendly reminder that tech enabled much of the world to keep going when big government shut every factory down during covid. Its far more resilient to tariffs by definition -> geopolitical borders affect tech far less than any other industry.
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>>60157732
you can.
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>>60157761
Mine doesnt have it
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>>60157754
Yo I heard you liked Smoot-Hawley crash so I added a Lehman crash to go along with it
Side dish of measles pandemic crash Friday if you're still looking for something spicy
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>>60157754
wouldn't be surprised to see some margin call shenanigans by at least a couple of the smaller hedgers
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>>60157754
it'd be nice if there was a source or named company
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>>60157775
how cucked....
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>>60157683
>but what am I doing wrong exactly

For starters you could've shorted stocks, indexes or more sensitive ETFs like Semiconductors or Tech, by either borrowing shares or buying puts or selling covered calls on the shares of ETFs you already own (very low risk), or for a safer play you could've gone long on bonds like TLT which I've been in since January 27th and was a totally obvious play from the get-go once the tariff discussions started. But this requires a basic knowledge of finance and macroeconomic events, something you seem lacking in.
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>>60157127
-1.1%. Should be green tomorrow after the markets crashes again.
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>>60157756
Tech is literally nothing but hype bubbles at this point and the only reason why it "survived" was a decade of 0% interest rates that allowed all of them to lose billions of dollars a year to accumulate marketshare.
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Asia is getting heemed
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Taiwan used a circuit breaker on their stock exchange.
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>>60157754
>>60157780
found the article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14574029/hedge-funds-margin-calls-donald-trump-tariffs.html
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>>60157127
Up 15%
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>>60157127
100% in cash baby, so 0%. Saw this shit coming a mile away. Too bad I don't really have all that much to begin with, if this happened 5 years in the future I woulda definitely bought a ton of puts.
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>>60157786
It does but it's called a vanguard fund or some shit
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Whatever, no matter how hard the market crashes tomorrow I know it'll bounce right back soon after just like covid. The line doesn't go down long term, only up
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>>60157756
>"republic" institutions

Lmao, nice made up word. What does this made up term mean exactly? You mean Mega Cap tech stocks like Tesla owned by Elon Musk? Or META? Or AMZN? All of which who endorsed Trump for President?
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>>60157809
Is it heem day?
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>>60157756
Tech is gonna be slammed by the EU retaliation
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>>60157835
they sure go up anon
>mfw zoomers haven't had a chance to have fun with holding the bag for at least a year yet
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Dip-Based Plan with Hedging (From April 6, 2025)

Reference Prices
SPY = $505.28

QQQ = $422.67

10% Drop
SPY = $454.75

QQQ = $380.40

Invest: ~$5k each ~11 SPY, 13 QQQ

Hedge:

SPY Put: Strike $318 (30% below), 3-month expiry

QQQ Put: Strike $266, 3-month expiry

Est. Cost: $600–$1,100 total for both

20% Drop
SPY = $404.22

QQQ = $338.14

Invest: ~12 SPY, 14–15 QQQ

Hedge:

SPY Put: Strike $283 (30% below)

QQQ Put: Strike $237

Est. Cost: $600–$1,100

30% Drop
SPY = $353.70

QQQ = $295.87

Invest: ~14 SPY, 16–17 QQQ

Hedge:

SPY Put: Strike $248

QQQ Put: Strike $207

Est. Cost: $600–$1,100

40% Drop
SPY = $303.17

QQQ = $253.60

Invest: ~16 SPY, 19–20 QQQ

Hedge:

SPY Put: Strike $212

QQQ Put: Strike $177

Est. Cost: $600–$1,100

50% Drop
SPY = $252.64

QQQ = $211.34

Invest: ~19 SPY, 23–24 QQQ

Hedge:

SPY Put: Strike $177

QQQ Put: Strike $148

Est. Cost: $600–$1,100
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Should I buy all gold tomorrow or some gold and some S&P?
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>>60157564
it seems most biz voters are optimistic so far
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>>60157835
I wonder what reassured the markets then
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Line can't go up forever in a finite world
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>"BOND" category
>had NEGATIVE returns in 2021/2022
...
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>>60157849

How? EU niggers already add a 25% VAT on digital goods.
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how can people pretend that the US isn't the entire worlds economy when everyone suffers when we act up
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I DCA monthly, should I buy Monday or wait til later in the week?
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>found the one category that can't lose principle
they really try to hide it oy vey

now what % to take out of the market? 50? more?
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>>60157906
How can people pretend one table leg isn't supporting the entire table when it wobbles without it
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>>60157908
wait, this will get worse before it gets better
invest into foreigns though for long term gain
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>>60157564
Where's the option for green?
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>>60157906
>what's VUCA?
Godspeed, anon.
I hope you spend your learning money well
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>>60157937
if it goes green I will be very impressed
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>>60157937
its never going green
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>>60157127
im up hugely because i bought puts since im not a retard. the kikes literally not only telegraphed hugely with all their insider sales but told you verbatim they were gonna pop the bubble if you refused to listen thats on you
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Boomer rocks saved me from financial ruin
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>>60157151
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well guys? what did we learn?
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>>60157874
Algorithmic trading won't allow a breaker to be triggered. Expecting consecutive 5%s instead.
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>>60158004
Enough currency to pump the markets?
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>>60157874
Majority of /biz/ are LARPing slurpers who thinks “le blood on le streets i buy”
/biz/ is a Reddit board
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>>60158004
I learned Trump is terrible at math.
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>>60157740
then buy a little every day it dumps :)
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>>60157609
energy is getting slammed harder than tech
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>>60157866
You won't be able to buy anything. Pool's closed.
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>>60157986
There's no way this is real. It goes up based on fear?
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>>60157560
WHAT FUCKING TICKERS DO WE BUY THEN
INDEXES ARE TOO SLOW YOU DONT GET RICH WITH INDEXES
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>>60158050
>Trump wanted drill baby drill
>He's singlehandedly made it unprofitable
Bravo
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>>60158047
he's just doing the rest of the world a solid by having them get rid of VAT and lowering their taxes
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THIS IS THE PRICE TO REGAIN OUR FREEDOM.
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>>60158063
FAT
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>>60158063
you can get rich with indexs, its just not immediate, its designed to minimize losses and maximize return over a period of at least 10+ years, preferably 30+ years. By the time you reach 20+ years if you are doing things right it will be pumping out 10% returns per year which is pretty good depending on what you put into it.

Its not that great to a trade though, but its efficient and no work.
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>>60157982
based
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>>60158067
shale break even on existing wells is apparently $50 now, for some reason I thought it was high 50s
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>>60157127
down 9.5% YTD
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>>60158067
it still could have been somewhat profitable
but the saudis just decided the crater it
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>>60157901
Maybe they bump it to 50%. It's really the most vulnerable US export to the EU
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>>60158060
No, it goes up based on put/call ratios and other factors like that.
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>>60158060
Yes, it is powered by the pure psychological aura emanating from the trading floor
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Trump just want revenge against china for covid which costed him 2020
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>>60158060
It’s real as fuck and up 14%
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Retard here. Why are circuit breakers a thing?
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>>60158211
Because shit is rigged
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>>60158050
No it is not. XLK is down 15.3% for the month, XLE is only down 8.3%
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>>60158060
for fuck sakes
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>>60158211
Slap in the face effect
If everybody's panicking, it's a nice way to cool everyone's emotions and get people thinking straight
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>>60158067
Eh, he had some help from OPEC+
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>>60158211
because 1987
you dont want an uncontrollable plunge of the market
its not good for anyone
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>>60158211
remember that a lot of the shit in there is automated, and remember that some buy and selling is automated to happen at certain points
so if it gets too automated it can spiral out of control. A circuit breaker will stop this giving managers and companies time to change their settings.
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>>60158211
The stock market's version of "you've had too much to drink, now calm the fuck down."
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>>60158201
What about VVIX
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>>60158211
1987
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>>60158211
because of the great depression. there are 3 breakers in US stock markets, and on the 3rd (20% down) they completely stop trading for the day. this is to stop the markets from selling off and completely crashing.
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>>60158245
Just gimme my keys, I'm fucking fine, I'm fine just just gimme the keys
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All in TQQQ tomorrow or youre a retard. You heard it here first
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>"Trump then went on to issue a warning to China, which he declared 'would be the worst in the group because the deficit is so big and [it] would have been unsustainable.'
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>>60158067
You're a fucking idiot. The price of oil is falling which means lower energy prices and gas prices at the pump, fucking dumbass.
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>>60158248
Up %23
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I didn't sell yet, should I just ride it out? Mostly index funds.
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>>60157874
I'm going to be honest looking Nikkei it's going to 5 to 8
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I have about $200k gross base salary (and some RSUs worth about 100k before the stock market crash) this year so I am not in the worst position but it sucks seeing your savings decrease almost a third since the beginning of the year
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when will my portfolio change actually go through on my 401k
i never touched it before
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kek i can't get over how the nips have a little lunch break pause. probably the funniest tradfi relic
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>>60158308
Don't use the NIKKEI as your barometer, it's been extremely volatile for decades. Just look at it's movement last August.

China and Taiwan are slightly better comparisons for the potential US market movement.
But it's moreso the overall picture that they're all fucking crashing. Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Australia, etc
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>>60158073
he literally said there are no negotiations and the tariffs are there to stay because they are based on trade imbalances
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>>60158276
>Trump's entire reason for doing this is because deficit = bad word
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>>60158291
that's not the real vix
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>>60158333
Bro you don't understand. He's a good deal maker, the best. No one makes deals as good as he does. He's gonna make a deal so good, you'll get tired of how good it is.
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unironically, actually seriously soxl
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>>60158221
try XOP
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>>60158326
most 401k are very slow, they update changes after the market closes on the day you change them, and sometimes they take up to 3-5 days. Basically if you didn't do it 2 months ago you are probably fucked and should just hang on with whatever you have.
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>>60158345
The economy man, great for the economy, he was great he's gonna be great again the economy
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>>60158359
nah it'll be done tomorrow
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>>60157127
Up 30% YTD now thanks to this past week.
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i'm gonna let you in on a little well known secret
now is a GREAT time quit your 9-5 working at a global corporation and to sell your portfolio and start a home business
trump said he's bringing jobs back to america, it's up to you to bring back those jobs
he can only give you so much, it's time to forge your own path
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My only regret is not having more cash on hand to buy more
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>>60158355
Still 11.4% vs XLK 15.3%, this is for a one month period though, not one week.
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Is it really going to be an “economic nuclear winter” tomorrow?
t. Newfaggot
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>>60158389
How much cash on hand do you have and how much are you planning on throwing in?
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>>60158331
Thanks so probably-8 to -10 lol Trump may cuck if it's worse then the depression
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>>60158387
A home business selling what nigga?
My cum in a jar?
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>mfw watching this unfold after selling off everything 2 months ago
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S&P futures down 5% lmao oh boy tomorrow is gonna be FUCKED
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>>60158265
soxl is about to RS and you're saying to go all in on tqqq?
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>>60158417
but if we zoom out to the 5 year chart we're still alright
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>>60158417
ZOOM OUT LMAO

BUY THE DIP TARD

MUH ZOOM ZOOM
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>>60158332
I think you missed what I was referring to, but the numbers used to determine those imbalances included VATs which have nothing to do with the US.
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kek zoomout cucks are SEETHING
zoomers you might call them
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>>60158416
yeah the fireworks are going to be impressive
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>zoom out
Nobody gives a fuck about 10 years ago you fuckin bitch
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zoom in
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>>60158399
>Is it going to be a economic nuclear winter
No I wouldn't fully price in until we understand where Yemen is going (they hit KSA during a F1 race we are close to another) and Iran which has ultimatum at the end of the month regarding nukes and negotiations Israel will pressure the US to strike Iran no matter what also kept in mind we don't know how bad Tariffs will affect prices or production since either
>companies will absorb the cost
>Pass it off to the consumers
>Force the supplier to take the hit
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Pan to the right a little
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>>60158391
That's fair. I didn't personally feel the crash until this past week.
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Nothing ever happens
SOXL to 20 by end of month
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How are the China indexes doing
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>he fell for the stocks meme
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>>60158461
Cooked.
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>>60158305
Time in the market beats timing the market... pfft... heheh... ahahaha... AHAHAHAHA!
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>>60158461
Hang Seng down 8 to 9%
Shanghai down 6%
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> zoom zoom
Lots of people never recovered from the savings that they had in 2020, 2008, or 2000. Layoffs, losing your home, divorce, etc. Only takes one bad crash to ruin your life forever.
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why does a communist country have a stock market and what is it called
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>>60157107
>>60157107
>>60157107
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>>60158476
god why are some of you so retarded
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>>60158476
Because they are communist God MIGA is retarded
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>>60157127
>-28.44%
ENOUGH WITH THE STOCK CRASH
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>>60158060
Retard. The vix is a measurement of the expected move of an index calculated based on the prices of puts and calls.

The rule of 16 gives a simple approximation here so a vix of 48 would mean the index is expected to move +/-3% on a daily basis according to option pricing.
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>>60158331
>China and Taiwan are slightly better comparisons for the potential US market movement.
so -10% or worse instead of -6%?
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>>60157564
it's unironically ending green
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>>60157957
Look at jan 24 2022. My guess is it follows this pattern. I'm not trying to be a hero but im buying the dip this morning.
Alternatively could be an august 5 2024 scenario, or one of the many covid day patterns.
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>>60158676
This far worse than COVID. It's not even close.
Unironically if COVID had actually killed 10% of the population this would still be worse than COVID
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>>60158676
>buying the dip
>this morning
BOTH
OF THESE THINGS
CANNOT
B
TRU



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