Yukari edtion>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Charts/Screeners/Data:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://finviz.com/https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Live Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/https://tvpass.org/channel/fox-business>Gambling:https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Calendars:https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.chabad.org/holidays/default_cdo/jewish/holidays.htmhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html>Responsible Investing:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.portfoliovisualizer.comhttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/Previous: >>60180223
MINE ANUS DOTH BEEN TONGUED!!
don't worry Cramer said the worst is behind us, bullbros
When is it safe to buy back in bros?
I thought y'all would be looking for more angles on making money, not bitching about Trump when the markets are closed.
I dont own any stocks yet I cant stop watchingThis shit is more entertaining than anything in modern media
>>60181944RUH ROH
>>60181944
>>60181940By whom, sire?Can you describe his visage?
i feel as if the average Chinese, a farmer/factory worker who owns literally nothing and will never own anything EVER has a higher tolerance for this than the average American, but I guess we'll see.
>>60181925>gap hagAutistic Tenshi is superior and you know it
>>60181944>>60181966Bobobros, we made it...
I'm going on vacation. See you guys next month.
>>60181972trumps tariffs have turned profitable businesses who make an honest living into some businesses now owing 100k+ because of tariffs on their suppliersso yeah if youre poor youre gonna stay poor and probably hold toughif youre in the middle of wealthy and poor, welcome to the poor
so what's tomorrow gonna be like?
>Things are going to slide in all directions>Won't be nothing, nothing you can measure anymore>The blizzard, the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold>And it's overturned the order of the soul
>>60182005Green open, then crabbing to slightly red close as smart money starts frontrunning Wednesday. It might turn into a rout if conditions are right, but I'm not expecting blood in the streets until Wednesday morning when people wake up and learn that the tariffs did go into effect.
>>60182011Beary good
>>60181972And you'd be wrong. But whatever helps you cope!
>>60181967Well, you see, he was an orange lad, not looking in a manner that is dissimilar to that of a cheeto
Ezy Mny
>>60182026>!Why do you type like a faggot?
wtf is that
>>60181972I'm sure the people who kicked biden because of the price of eggs will endure a decade of recession in silence
Which alcohol stocks should I buy before the recessions drives everyone to drink
>>60182018Bloody Wednesday cometh. It would be pretty hilarious if the market pumps instead though. I'd be out of a perfectly good SPY put but I'll treat that as money well paid for some comedy.
>>60182005well japans green, south koreas green, australias green, chinas greenmethinks green
>>60181925>Turns out Beseent is rugging the market >“Bessent’s view was, ‘The markets will keep melting unless you shift,’” one of the people said. “You’re not going to abandon the policy, but you have to talk about negotiating and what the endgame is.”https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/07/trump-bessent-trade-deals-tariff-endgame-messaging-00277395In a sane world this would be criminal but in this world this is allowed
>>60182045EU is tariffing bourbon, so probably not that
>>60182045Just raid the liquor store in advance and hawk them to drivers near crowded highway exits at a markup
>>60182055Cucked out of bourbon for Industrial goods
>>60182037that's Dan Wang
>>60182054all this faggot (literal) cares about is the 10 yearits all he talks about, and his gamble isnt going to pay off because markets react accordingly to you being a fucking faggot to free trade
>>60182037my wang twitched so uh
>>60181972Look up the lying down movement in China.
>>60181972I think it's funny that Chinese are stereotyped as hyperconsumerist, ultracapitalist drones, but also poverty stricken subsistence farmers.So what about my African Wave plan for China #1? Does the CCP read 4chan? It should solve both the consumption and birthrate problems.> Import millions of African men into Chinese cities for cheap labor> this causes a "Han flight" phenomenon in which Chinese leave the cities and move into newly built suburbs mirroring what happened in the USA last century> suburban life supercharges consumption and the Han birthrate since they would have more space to put the stuff they buy and to raise kids> There would be a second birthrate boom in the cities since African men breed like rabbits> the dysgenic effect would be mitigated since the Han flight would serve as an IQ filter leaving only the lower IQ Chinese women behind to breed with the newly arrived African men> The resulting caste of Han-African colored folk would integrate well due to the influence of domineering Chinese women> the male/female ratio would worsen, but it wouldn't matter as long as a portion of the population is breeding more than beforeCan BBC save China?
>>60182054So how does Mr Bessent intend on messaging away the tariffs when they actually get further implemented
you now remember /tsg/
>>60182074he did that when trump did the retarded family feud board by saying "dont retaliate, these numbers are only the worst of it if you just dont react"
>>60181925I want to tongue yukari mommy's anus before she gaps me.
>>60182066Yup, the Chinese gen Zs are poor and jaded just like the American counterparts, but they're especially bitter because they can't even get a job in food delivery with their masters degree. I would have folded in the same situation too lmao
>>60181024vietnam fucking loves america even after they were bombed so hard, they dont deserve this man..... CANCEL THE TARIFFS REEEEEEEEEEE
>>60182071>Chinese importing AfricansThey have one of the lowest immigrabt populations in the world
someone think of how sex doll prices will double in price
>>60182071google madagascar
>>60182090>BUT WHAT WILL X GROUP THINK OF US>MUH POPULARITY CONTESTThis isn't highschool prom night faggot. Fuck off.
>>60182093>sex dollsPeople care about those ?
>>60182093>Sex dolls price skyrocket>It is now more competitive to have an actual biowifewtf tariffs works
>>60182074Points to a successful trade deal with Japan (which we were going to do anyway) as a success story while China eats 104%.
>>60182093are fleshlight prices gonna go up? i was gonna buy the violet myers one
>>60182093Glad I bought a new one last year.
>>60182103Most of the shit Japan sells to America in terms of entertainment is literally manufactured in chinaYour anime figures are going to cost several hundreds of dollars
>>60182037Chinese femboy. Wish they would send more of them and fewer of the awkward nerd types.
>>60182105Don't use fleshlights you'll get a UTI
>>60182103It made no sense to tariff japan after Trump brought out that SoftBank CEO to brag about how he is investing money in the US.
>>60182111dan wang is a woman thobeit
>>60182103>Japan trade dealWe see his best choice is Vietnam more willing to play concessions
>>60182071>nigs on state welfare spreading nig genesYeah we can see how that's working out for Europe. If the CCP doesn't offer gibme, the Africans would migrate back en masse unless the Chinese recreates the US slavery system. I honestly wouldn't put that past China given how openly racist they are to anyone dark skinned.
>>60182109>Your anime figures are going to cost several hundreds of dollarsThey already do
>>60182125Youre gonna have to buy it again just so it leaves customs
>>60182125it will be more expensive to buy some dumb big titty anime doll than it will to buy a Ford F-150 which is frankly based
>>60182112Don’t worry I’m a thorough cleaner. I bought one of these lovehoney double strokers and it sucks, hard to keep it lubed so it just irritates my dick. Still better than my hand I suppose
>>60182113>Makes no senseThis is the same retard that literally cut weapon supplies to Ukriane then restart them with zero concessions on the side of Ukriane at the same time he's also demanding the EU rearm but buy American instead of European
>>60182071there's a REALLY old image of an african dude in china who got kidnapped and had his cock sliced off. i think he stole something or some shit. idk if anyone remembers it but it had chinese text and forum posts plastered across it
>>60182103>>60182120>>60182109>>60182113loldeal
>>60182129Saw a small business guy complain that he got contacted by customs to pay an additional 10 grand on his shipment or they wouldn't release it. Summer time unemployment is going to go through the roof.
what does slurping mean?
>>60182131My collection will be worth six figures
>>60182133I forgot about that. Man that feel so long ago, but it was probably last month. Now he is demanding Europe pay reparations for money the US spent reconstructing Europe post-ww2.
>>60182132>better than my hand I supposeWouldn't be if you still had your foreskin
>>60182138>Give us money or I swear I'm shooting myself in the headIf this was a movie script everyone would call bullshit
>>60182138I'm saying if the intention is to rug the market best choice is to make a "trade deal" with some 3rd world country and then the market will bounce
>>60182138>write checks to US SecretaryWhat?
>>60182109Don't give a fuck.>>60182113If Shinzo was still alive, their rates would be zero.>>60182120Vietnam is big risk for Chinese transshipment so I don't think they're getting off easy.
>>60182146I'll teach you what slurping means*unzips dick*(Buy when stock number does a low dumdum)
>>60182138they can also stop accepting US dollars and make Americans buy their currency for trade settlment
ONLY THE WEAK WILL FAIL!
>>60182159Shinzo wouldnt be PM if he was alive, he was forced out due to handling COVID like shit
>>60182152>EU pay for the Marshall planHe is the dumbest gorilla ever first ever Nigga
>>60182153
>>60182146>what does slurping mean?
>>60182011line shall rise regardless
why the fuck is the stock market pumping? what the honest fuck is going up?
>>60182158Say (send) thank you (money) to the US (Treasury)
>>60182154Is there some other country they're gonna ship to?
>>60182159>Vietnam is big for Chinese shipping Their largest trading and investment partner is China your stupid if you think this will work Vietnam is a bamboo diplomacy country it won't like you forcing them to chose
>>60182080;-;
>>60181925I'm liquidating. Have no idea what to do but lost a good sum.
>>60182176They think Trump is bluffing. Would be a real shame if he actually went through with his words.
>>60182114That adam's apple is not fooling anyone.>>60182122Subsidize fried chicken restaurants. All they need is food and fat women. Chinese are gradually getting fat already. They are simple minded creatures. Africa is a shithole without a welfare system. It shouldn't be hard to make China more attractive place to live for them.
>>60182176bessent is feeding them sweet nothings by touting the words negotiation
today was stressful, I forgot the concept of buying low and selling high and just kept refreshing numbers and was super fucking dizzy when I was the 34% retaliation from China. 65k is on the line...
>>60182054Good read, thanks.“‘Since when do people care about the stock market?’ That’s bullshit. That’s fucking bullshit,” said Dave Portnoy, the president of Barstool Sports who became an influential Trump backer during the campaign, in a livestream on Monday. “Everybody has the right to panic — Panican Party — and be worried about the stock market, their 401(k), their portfolio.”
>>60182154China dumped all their bonds before maturity and when that did nothing they announced stopping exports of all rare earths to try to stop companies from moving production.Seems more like a game of chicken.
>>60182180Yeah the rest of the fucking world
>>60182199she does not have an adam's apple you can literally watch and listen to her speak she's a Hong Kong correspondent for cnbc
everything is going to pump tomorrow after I chose to buy SQQQ
>>60182203Funny how Portnoy, ACK-man and even Joe Rogan are shitting on the admin now
>>60182191>sell low Never change /biz/
>>60182212oh wait she works with bloomberg not cnbc
>>60182213I almost put a ton of money into SQQQ last night but then I had a bad feeling after seeing futures
>>60182207There is no buyer that is a substitute for the U.S..
>>60182216>>sell lowI hate it but it's true.
>>60182037would
>>60182226Yeah and that include the post liberation day US market kek
>>60182037>>60182199actually she looks much more normal outside of economic crises it seems
>>60182054Trump's track record, especially recently, says that he only thinks of his next step after making a big claim. His endgame is wherever the negotiations take him. No more, no less. The market uncertainty could have been deliberately engineered, but I have my doubts. I see his "never let them know your next move" approach as more of "I'll do some off the wall shit and figure something out as I go"
>>60181925News status?
>>60182247>tfw no china market shill milf sugar mommy
>>60182247Listen. Don't care if it has a penis or a vagina. I would either way.
I remember the first time I learned that suicide was a thing. I was a little kid, like 10 years old, and my family watched Titanic together. At the end, the old lady says that Billy Zane's character jumped out of a building in 1929. I asked my dad why someone would do that... and he said>in that year, the stock market crashed and a lot of people lost money, and some people don't want to live without their moneyAt the time, I thought that was a weird thing to do
>>60182158These retards think that the trade deficit is a subsidy for the other country so they think America deserves reparations
>>60182247
>>60181947Xi is going to croak soon. If there is a peaceful transition of power, buy in after that. He hasn't named a successor, though, so it's only an 'if'.
Vietnam's HNX index down 6.8% in today's trading
I think they are on to me.....
>>60182261>>60182275>>60182286
>>60182292Bullish
>>60182279>he had a fatherlucky faggot
>>60182292Based. Fuck post-COVID Vietnam and fuck their gay ass Redditor digital nomad tourist base.
>>60181925>suicide hotline no longer in the OPare we back?
>>60182292indonesians are down 9% or something too, not sure what sway these little SEA countries have anyway
>>60182283There's a parallel universe where Japan didn't outbid Trump for that antique piano, and everyone on /biz/ made it by holding VOO and Bitcoin.
>>60182301
>>60182308Until April 9th and April 10th
>>60182308yes. everyone that was going to kill themselves already killed themselves.
>>60182308>suicide hotline no longer in the OPThe are dead Jim, no left to call
>>60182308It'll be back on Wednesday
>>60182292>>60182310In all seriousness, ASEAN countries are heavily tied to Chinese trade since the 2010s. Is this a forward looking indicator that China is in fact about to lose the trade war?
>>60182071China isn't going to do that and they will probably never see this to make them seethe, so I'd also rather not see it.
>>60182329So is japan and aus...
>>60182331>eliminate billionairelmao lol evenWasn't this guy a Trump nuthugger? He must be down pretty badly if even he's flinging shit at the administration.
>>60182331this is a very silly thing to say even for mr beanie
>>60182138>just give us moneylol what a scam
>>60182335Nowhere near as much as Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodia and Laos.
>>60182172even if you are faking it ill answerits the act of buying the dip in stock prices, usually when you don't know what you are doing
>>60182340Are you a bot?
>>60182349Matter of fact, speaking of which, Thailand is fucking dumping hard af too. That definitely has to be Chinese related. Biggest China nuthuggers and simps in all of Asia after North Korea and Cambodia.
>>60182348This might be the new endgoal Bessent thought of over the weekend. No disruption from tariff if the country pays a protection fee. Let's just hope the sum isn't anything as exorbitant as the percentages Trump pulled from a LLM.
>>60182329>China is going to lose the trade warMore like you just killed any chance of these countries getting foreign investment
>>60182331Tim Pool took millions from russians for sub 1000 view youtube videos, and never thought it was suspicious.
>>60182331fake money doesnt make you a millionaire
>>60181966>approaching +2% on futuresYvp. Bvll svrge. Did Bobo get too cocky? Mvmv ALWAYS wins.
>>60182398Hubris will be your downfall Mumu-kun
>>60182398Last night futures were like -4%, and yet...
>>60182398I thought we were finally cumming, Bobros...
>>60182373Based. These countries got arrogant as fuck after COVID. Fuck them. Eat shit Thailand, you will never be a first world country.
>>60182146
>>60181925Want to know what trump's final goal is, with all the tariffs? This is what everyone is going to be talking about in a month or two."Why Trump's tariff chaos actually makes sense (big picture)"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ts5wJ6OfzAThe trade deficit is caused in large part because of the global reserve currency status of the dollar, which causes greater demand for the dollar, which makes it a stronger a dollar.That makes it harder to export.And it also means a lot of countries have US dollars in reserve, and want to get something out of it, so they buy US debt. Sometimes US stocks.Which means we can consume more by issuing more debt, but there is no trade rebalancing that would normally happen, so we just get a larger and larger trade deficit and more and more debt. And more countries hold our debt.This is okay for a while, but eventually it causes really big problems. The natural process of trade deficits rebalancing out and currency rebalancing can't happen with us.So what is trump's master plan? Keep the global reserve currency status, but have a weaker dollar. How? Well that's the problem. The solutions are speculative. Grand bargainsThe kind of shit that would redo the global trade system. A new version of bretton woodsThus "A User’s Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System".https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/documents/FG/hudsonbay/research/638199_A_Users_Guide_to_Restructuring_the_Global_Trading_System.pdfThis is trump's master plan. And it's what everyone will be talking about in a couple months, once it is revealed. You're starting to hear murmurs about "bretton woods this" and "bretton woods that". That's what this is leading to.
>>60182406Nikkei already recovering, what is there to fear at this point? "Nooo, the market is irrationalirino!" I slurped the bottom, and you're afraid that the man who's never gone through with anything in his life is going to ride this out. Already factored in. It's not too late, get ahead of the market tomorrow and become a proud BVLL!
>>60182424go back to your own thread
>>60182421lewd
>>60182349>Vietnam has a 46 percent tariff rate >Indonesia 32 >Thailand 36 >Cambodia 49>Laos 48Why wouldn't they be tanking lol
Nothing is going to happen.
>>60182439Something is going to happen and it's going to be normalized, which we'll take as a sign that nothing, indeed, has happened
>>60182432>Thailand not 50%+Dissapointing desu. But holy fuck is the SET tanking like a mfer right now, and not even off of any highs, but near all time lows too lol.
>>60182383I hate Russians so much it’s unreal. I’ll never forgive them for how bad this place got astroturfed. Remember QAnon posts being 70% of pol in 2017.
https://archive is/sAhDnBased Xi. The American Age is OVER. Fuck these gangsters.
>>60182428>go back to your own threadNo, I'm going to keep posting this because no one seems to know that this is trump's plan, and what he's trying to doPeople don't even know why there's a trade deficit. Here's a hint: It's the global reserve currency statusAnd nothing trump will do can solve this problem, until the does something to change that system or adjust in response to itThat's what he's doing.It's not just tariffs. He is redoing bretton woods, or replacing it entirely. He really is changing the entire global trade order. This is not going to end, and it's not just tariffs
>>60182483>Qanon is RussianThe MAGA boomers are retarded lol at them with Tariffs right now
>>60182493what is this?
>>60182501Jerome is going to raise interest rates and youll keep seething
Can someone please explain picrel? someone posted it earlier...
They’re creating chaos so they have something to save you from. Trump and his Mar-a-lago billionaire club gonna walk away so much richer while ordinary Americans (You), Europeans (You), Asians (You) and everyone else (You) will be screwed over. And the majority of US voters that are mindless sheep are gonna thank them for it.
>>60182511Nothing has value?.... its just weakening currency?
>>60182505Unpaywalled https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-08/china-vows-to-fight-to-the-end-if-us-insists-on-new-tariffs?srnd=homepage-europe
>>60182511Stonks only go up because there's more money (inflation). The increase in stonk price in your portfolio due to appreciation over time doesn't mean you get that much more buying power.
>>60182505malware, i clicked it and immediately got a call from a scammer
>>60182531What did you expect from a chinaman link
>>60182529so holding gold/fiat/dollhairs is always retarded? its just printing fiats...
>>60182508>Jerome is going to raise interest rates and youll keep seethingUm okay?That has nothing to do with what I'm saying. And wouldn't really change the outcome either.I'm sorry you're so brown and low IQ that you actually can't understand these complicated matters like bretton woods and the petro dollar.
>>60182511jack gives you two bananas yesterdayhe then gives you three bananas today, and promises to give you four bananas tomorrowhowever you wanted oranges and you told him this and be still brought you bananas like a jerkhow do you get revenge on jack?if you can't answer this you shouldn't be here
I bought.
Riddle me this bizman: if the whole world is tariffed by the US, but since tariffs are paid by the american importer, why should the world care? It's not likr americans can buy from somewhere else. Still need asia made shoes and european machines and chinese capacitors.
>>60182552Shove the banana in his bussy (male anus)
>>60182552put the bananas up both your poopers and jerk each other off so he falls in gay love for you but you reject him and break his heart
>China is to ban the import of US films into China, in response to US tariffs, per Xinhua.
>>60182562Goodbye to the single biggest movie market.
>>60182550nigger nobody is buying the hyperdeflation theory
>>60182555because that means the other countries will make fewer sales to the US due to the tariffs at the port increasing the price for the amerisharts
>>60182562>no more Chinese censorship version RIP
>>60182562That would actually improve American movies, now they just need to get rid of wokeshit.
>>60182562That was the last thing keeping movies from being filled with faggots
>>60182552what the fuck are you on about? this doesn't even make sense. bad analogy. or maybe you can explain it
>>60182550> The most powerful financial variable for explaining currency moves in developed markets is typically the spread in interest rates at the front end of the yield curve
>>60182555Because it means the US buys less of their product, therefore making them not as profitableYes tariffs are bad for the importer, and the exporter
>>60182562i just bought an amc stubs membership....
and its officially century of the crab
>>60182544Not read up on gold, but it beats inflation. But if you're not flipping rares from Pokemon cards, what are you even doing?
>>60182571>get rid of wokeshitThe Chinese got the censored version lol
>>60182562cataclysmic event for pedowood may it all go out of business and may the hobos in LA take over the walk of fame entirely
>>60182176The market is so desperate for security right now that a fake rumor caused a massive spike in less than a minute. Until the extremely devastating ramifications of tariffs fully set in people will buy.
>>60182572It wasn't keeping them out.>>60182564Only a few movies are allowed into China each year and the share of profits is small.
>>60182555>Riddle me this bizman: if the whole world is tariffed by the US, but since tariffs are paid by the american importer, why should the world care?They shouldn't.And the fact that they add tariffs in retaliation tells you everything you need to knowIf adding tariffs was purely an own goal, then they'd laugh at us doing it, and then just lower their tariffs in response to win harder against us.They know that the tariffs won't be paid by the american importer. And they know tariffs work, and that tariffs damage the country that is tariffed. That's why they get so upset and act like it's an "attack" on them.It's because it is an attack.>It's not likr americans can buy from somewhere else. Still need asia made shoes and european machines and chinese capacitors.In some cases yes, but in the majority, no. Especially when it comes to china. They need us much more than we need them. The trade imbalance heavily favors us in any trade war.
>>60182579>but it beats inflationyou print more money 'it goes up'... how would gold be different from real estate/stocks?
>>60182603>real estateyou're opening up an even faker and gayer can of worms with that one
>>60182566>nigger nobody is buying the hyperdeflation theoryAnd I'm not posting the hyperdeflation theory? Again, the fed raising interest rates has nothing to do with what I'm sayingMy god, I forgot how brown 4chan has become. No one is capable of reading things any more.I guess the next time I post this, I'll have to summarize it for the low IQ people.
>>60182605bro HOW? property taxes? its literally a FINITE resource. this is too much bullshit. no one is answering my questions
>>60182574>> The most powerful financial variable for explaining currency moves in developed markets is typically the spread in interest rates at the front end of the yield curveThat's wonderful. The US dollar is the global reserve currency of the world. We are not like other nations.This is what trump's plan is about.It's not about raising interest rates. Or hyperdeflation which that other brown subhuman said. It's not about tariffs. It's going to keep going much further than that.It's about bretton woods and the petro dollar.
>>60182612i went to college, i know why the US dollar is a fiat currency, this is not advanced economic concepts
>>60182629Go to bed Ron Paul, we're not going back to converting the dollar to gold, youre not impressing anyone because you have to take a macroeconomics final this week
>>60182629Ah fuck I replied to a bot
>>60182623>bro HOW? property taxes? its literally a FINITE resourceDoesn't mean the valuation isn't high for what it is
>>60182602>They know that the tariffs won't be paid by the american importer.But they will. Americans can't just stop consooming.
>>60182511value has remained constant, price increases because of increased money supply (inflation). You have twice the money, but its lost half its value. My parents bought a 2,000 sq foot house for $25,000. Its now worth $1.3 million, its the same house but a lot older. The value of the dollar is plummeting.
OY VEY GOYIM DO SOMETHING MAKE MY LINE MOVE
>>60182632>i went to college, i know why the US dollar is a fiat currency, this is not advanced economic conceptsAnd I am aware of that as well, and that's not the point I'm making. It has nothing to do with fiat currency, or gold backed currency, or interest rates, or tariffs, or whatever other buzzwords people are already familiar with.Trump is trying to keep the dollar as global reserve currency, while also making the dollar weaker. How is that even possible? It's going to take a grand bargain. Redo or replace bretton woods and the petro dollar system.Tariffs won't do it. Trade deficits are just one part of the problem. He's going way way bigger than that.As keir starmer put it recently, this is the beginning of a new era, of de-globalization. And it's glorious.Watching the liberals cry, and try to explain how "different people are different, and have different advantages" and cry foul about trump's affirmative action for the economy is just hilariousHe's literally arguing for equal outcomes and affirmative action for america's trade system, and leftists are screeching about how that's not how it works. I think it's hilarious
>>60182603Not much in practice. They're stores of value, and real estate even doubles as a place for you to live in. Gold can serve as the hedge here since stocks are volatile, and real estate has issues like depreciation, upkeep, and property taxes. Gold is highly storable, needs little upkeep, and the price is resistant to market downturns since it's a risk-off asset. BTC should have followed this trajectory too, but large-scale adoption tied it to the market performance.
>>60182663Isn't he from 08 and COVID
>>60182678He's a career floor trader whose been there for over 30 years, he's the most stock photographed floor trader in historyHe also doesn't even own stocks, it's just his day job
>>60182642>Go to bed Ron Paul, we're not going back to converting the dollar to gold, youre not impressing anyone because you have to take a macroeconomics final this weekNo, and again, what I'm talking about has nothing to do with the gold standard or anything like thatMan, people really do like their buzzwords and talking points, don't they?It's like any excuse to not think about anything huh.It's not tariffs, it's not interest rates, it's not gold standard, or fiat, it's not any of those things.
>>60182456"All time" is 5 years in zoomie brains They really did get sent back to 2010 though lol. So it goes for brownoid tranny hooker stocks
>>60182678this was a brutal post to read I have to be honest
>>60182656>>They know that the tariffs won't be paid by the american importer.>But they will. Americans can't just stop consooming.No, the other country will eat the cost of the tariff, just like they did the last time.Or at least the majority of the cost. The price increase felt by the average american consumer will be small compared to what they pay
>>60182676>BTCthat is odd, so gold doesn't increase value because its just money getting weaker but BTC can increase because?>>60182659>The value of the dollar is plummetingyes, and thats why stocks are too?
you guys said it would be a bloodbath. nothing ever fucking happens. they're just gonna edge this shit and release more fake headlines to keep this stable until they eventually rake back all the tariffs.
>Even Netanyahou, after opening his ass and doing a deepthroat, couldn't get a rebate>The market still believes negociations are possible>The Japanese first>Futures greenI am at a loss of words.
>>60182555>Riddle me this bizmanIts a massive ponzi scheme run by the US. All the hand waving and bullshit is just to remap the money flows to keep the scheme going longer. The explanations by politicians have nothing to do with reality, finance, or economics. Its more like this - you run a business, some guy comes in and says you pay him a weekly fee or he will kill you and burn down your business. The is low enough to stay in business. Do you pay or not?
>>60182659>>60182701but wait.. weaker dollar= higher stocks. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
>>60182710now reconsider the orangesyou almost have it
Bros, how we looking at open today? Are we primed to pump back up now that things have settled in a bit?
>>60182710>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ONinflation due to the ever increasing supply of dollars. more dollars = less value of each dollar. Inflation is baked into the scheme, the scheme will implode with deflation.
>>60182719Yeah I think soo but not sure about wednesday
we will have a wednesday crash everyone is saying
>>60182365You're a bot.
>>60182709Sounds like gangster mafia behaviour
>>60182736>everyone is sayingbottom signal
>>60182715>now reconsider the orangesstop with the riddles please>>60182728>the scheme will implode with deflationfrom mass sell off/people stop buying because its 'over valued'?
China is poomping, why?
>>60182754chinese government announced stimmies and incentives to pump
>>60182701BTC is more speculative since not everybody is convinced of its value yet, has higher barrier to entry due to technical knowledge involved, and it's likely to see mainstream use -> Normies join in -> Increased demand may slyrocket price due to its limited supply.
>>60182754
This is honestly a really important week for world history. Mumu vs bobo with the highest stakes... I was there, in the fray
>>60182707Insouciance. The banks have never lost in their life. They've always gotten what they've wanted. They cannot believe it will be different this time.
>>60182746but what if they are trying to make bottom signal the consensus so they can dump they bags
>>60182745>Sounds like gangster mafia behaviourif you study the history of the US, you will see it is. Just consider how many wars, military actions, police actions, attacks (you know about), all the attacks you don't know about, all the CIA covert actions and coups, you will start to get the idea. If that does not convince you learn about General Smedly Butler - "War Is A Racquet"
>>60182703>you guys said it would be a bloodbath. nothing ever fucking happens. they're just gonna edge this shit and release more fake headlines to keep this stable until they eventually rake back all the tariffs.dead cat bounce aside, which is not surprising, this board is filled with anti american liberals (but I repeat myself) who hate trump (and I repeat myself again)So of course they are rooting against the american economy (because they either secretly or openly hate us) or they root against trumpIt's just TDS pretending to be day trade talk. They'll all lose their money shorting the stock market too much and fail to take profit.
>>60182501>savior complexTake your meds.
>>60182715>>60182749...you pay 4 bananas for the orange? idk about the revenge part
>>60182709>Its a massive ponzi scheme run by the US. All the hand waving and bullshit is just to remap the money flows to keep the scheme going longer. The explanations by politicians have nothing to do with reality, finance, or economics. Its more like this -No the economy is actually real, inputs matter, industries matter, costs matter, profit matters, and finally, tariffs matterIt's not a made up ponzi scheme. The economy is real and it actually matters.
>>60182736>wednesday crash
>>60182762>I was there, in the fray
>left with more questions than answers......its always like this
>>60182749>from mass sell off/people stop buying because its 'over valued'?I do not understand your question. The western economic system is a game, with made up rules. One of the rules baked in is that the fiat currency supply must constantly increase to pay off the interest on the loans constantly created. get this, there is not enough money to pay off all the loans and interest, that is why the supply must keep increasing.
>>60182728>inflation due to the ever increasing supply of dollars. more dollars = less value of each dollar. Inflation is baked into the scheme, the scheme will implode with deflation.but global reserve currency means we export our inflationOther countries have a high demand for the dollar, which means we can't even make a weaker dollar if we wanted to. It just stays strongThat is what causes the trade deficit. Under normal conditions, which the dumb niggers in this thread think apply to the US, a trade deficit wouldn't last for long because the currency would get imbalanced, and then importing too much wouldn't work and exporting would be more favorableAnd people would also stop accepting that countries debtThat doesn't happen with america. Our currency just stays strong, and people keep accepting our debt, because we are the greatest nation on earth. But we have become a victim of that success, and it's hurting our exportsNo country is supposed to have such a continued massive and growing trade deficit for this long. It's because the dollar is the reserve currency of the world. That's the problem. IT's a good problem to have, but it's now fucking us over.
>>60182703>you guys said it would be a bloodbath
>>60182798I guess I'm just not understanding how you go from inflation to deflation...
>>60182810
>>60182596exit pump
>>60182772>>savior complex>Take your meds.I'm sorry, it seems like no one knows even why the trade deficit exists, or WHY trump is even trying to do what he's doing, or what he's even trying to doPeople are just looking at line go up or line go down, and placing bets with no idea of what's actually driving this.If you understand trump's plan, it makes a lot more sense. Tariffs are just a tool.No, it's not interest rates, or deflation, or gold standard, or whatever other buzzword people have been throwing around.Trump is going to redo the entire trade system. He's wrecking it to start with, and he'll rebuild it with the countries who want to make a dealFor all the other countries, he'll just fuck them over and keep their trade relationship fucked. Meaning we will separate from chinaThis is also necessary because of world war 3, and we really really need to separate from them. Especially on critical industries, like medicine and anything that is an input for the defense sector.This trade war is dress rehearsal for world war 3.
> Chinese media reports that China is considering significantly increasing tariffs on US agricultural products
>ignore Cramer when he's right>always take the opposite of what he saysIt's going to be a FACEMELTING GREEN tomorrow! Slvrp time, bvllchads.
>>60182770you're a dumb russian snow nigger
>>60182770
>>60182828I mean, that really would suck for them, because they eat a fuck ton of our basedbeans and ginseng
>>60182828>> Chinese media reports that China is considering significantly increasing tariffs on US agricultural productschinamen decide to restrict the food supply of glorious chinkland, to make chinkland BIG and STRONK, to serve great patriot glorious chinaman vision of new world orderThere is no way this can go wronglol, china is not independent on food, water, energy, or for bigger more abstract things like "the economy in general" which is also hopelessly dependent on inputs and outputs from the outside world (imports/exports)I thought china might start self imploding, didn't think it would happen this fast. What's next? Charging tariffs on water and energy? they'll have to invade tibet again
>>60182811>deflationmoney supply decreases, the value of each dollar increases and buys more. but like I wrote earlier, there is not enough money to pay off all the interest and loans so with deflation people default on the loans and it starts a cascade of failure that implodes the system. If you do not understand this, it will seem confusing. You do not understand money, currency, fiat currency, and how fiat currency is created - its is loaned into existence. There are some vids that explain all this - mike maloney, and other older ones. You can also read Modern Money Mechanics by the Chicago Fed Reserve (you can download the pdf). Explains how banks create money through loans. Its all just a big scam.
>>60182848>>60182838they can get so.y beans from brazil
>>60182824>world war 3ww3 will be a free for all as much as the elites don't want to admit it>>60182770sad to see this board get filled with shills even though i don't like trump>>60182501jews will kill trump before that happens
>>60182796the Jack Orange Banana test is always a truly difficult one I don't blame you
>>60182811>I guess I'm just not understandingstart herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyV0OfU3-FU
>>60182685>He also doesn't even own stocks>He puts all his earnings and retirement money in a checking accountBased.
>>60182853Thanks for anon, you explained it well enough where I think I get it. >mike maloney>Modern Money Mechanics by the Chicago Fed ReserveI'm looking into this. the only other question I have, if everything you say is true... why are you ITT? the market is a 'scam'
Anyone gotten any good stock tips off Grindr matches?
>>60182893Yeah from your dad.
Trump didn't tariff RussiaTrump is destroying the country from withinTrump is doing the bidding of PutinAnd the Russian shills are trying to convince you this is somehow beneficial to Americans
>>60182913Yes.
>>60182804>but global reserve currency means we export our inflationI know, I left out that and other stuff because its too complicated. The inflation obviously comes back, plus we do not export all of it.
>>60182819Sunday - Cramer says its Black MondayMonday - Ignores what he said Sunday, eh not so bad I was right again.
>>60182913Yes Putin's plan was to crash Ural below 50 part of Putin's 7d chess
>>60182848>China will starve You are aware Brazil or Argentina exist which you've graciously hit with a >10 percent tariff
>>60182856>>world war 3>ww3 will be a free for all as much as the elites don't want to admit itNot really, nothat's not how it worksWe already know what it's going to be, if it happens based on the current status of belligerentsIt's going to be america and its buddies, versus all the commie bloc and former commie bloc countries. Meaning china, russia, and their buddiesIt's the cold war 2.0, which might turn into ww3. That's how it works>sad to see this board get filled with shills even though i don't like trumpI'm not hiding that I'm a trump fan? I don't think you know what a shill is. A shill pretends to be just some random normal person while actually they have a hidden agenda and trying to trick people into thinking there's more grassroots support for whatever idea.That's what a shill isNot everyone who disagrees with you is a "shill". Sometimes real people actually just disagree with you. There are real people on the internet
>>60182878>why are you ITT?I like shit posting, seeing the new memes, and sometimes I get good tips to make money.>if the market is a 'scam'It is a scam, but I need to buy sex dolls and burritos and they don't take my IOUs any more, so I need to give them fiat currency like everyone else. Yes, you can make money off a scam if you understand it so you do not get scammed. It took me a long time to really understand it, it seemed so odd, but I have been around a few years and seen this scam over and over and over. The answer is always fuck the little guy, print trillions of dollars and give it to the super rich to keep the system from imploding when they caused the problems in the first place.
>>60181925>Singapore's PM says it does not look like the US universal tariff of 10% is open for negotiationAmericans ladies and gentlemen this should send the markets down but I guess everyone thinks no Tariffs are coming
>>60182945china will never fight for russia, you're deluded
>>60182913>Trump didn't tariff Russia>Trump is destroying the country from within>Trump is doing the bidding of Putin>And the Russian shills are trying to convince you this is somehow beneficial to Americanstrump has already announced secondary tariffs on venuezela and russia, to anyone who buys their crude despite the sanctionsAnd trump has been pushing the europeans to boost defense spending, over and over, relentless. He is strongly pressuing them to do so. That is absolutely not in russia's interestI agree trump is a retard and is unintentionally doing the bidding of russia for some fucktarded reason, but he's not a putin puppet or whatever. He does a lot of stuff that is very anti-russia and directly harms their short term and long term goals.
while others play checkers, i play chess
>>60182949So how do us little guys take advantage? I mean it seems like holding any cash is retarded and holding stocks long term is also stupid.
>>60182919>>but global reserve currency means we export our inflation>I know, I left out that and other stuff because its too complicated. The inflation obviously comes back, plus we do not export all of it.Oh okay>>inflation due to the ever increasing supply of dollars. more dollars = less value of each dollar. Inflation is baked into the scheme, the scheme will implode with deflation.Yes, the system simply won't handle a weaker dollar. I don't think it will implode or whatever, but it's basically impossible for this to happen. Either way, it's incompatible with the global reserve currency status.So we need a new system. A grand bargain. Trump is going to do bretton woods 2.0, or something totally differenthe wants to keep the global reserve currency status, but ALSO a weaker dollar. How the fuck is he going to do this? He needs to rewrite the global trade policy
>>60182943>>China will starve>You are aware Brazil or Argentina exist which you've graciously hit with a>>10 percent tariffnever underestimate the ability of communists to fuck up the food supply and cause the starvation deaths of millionsYes, china is that stupid. They might even do it on purpose, and use food as a weapon to reward the party cronies and punish any dissenters by making them starve to deathJust like north korea. Or shall I say best korea? Communists never let a good crisis go to waste. Mass death events are more like a feature than a bug.
>>60182954>china will never fight for russia, you're deludedOh I agree.It will be 2 separate wars (possibly). One in europe against russia which has already started, and one in the pacific against chinachina might even invade russia at some point. Their side is totally fucked.
I will pay you 1 chicken for 30 bananas. Final offer.
>>60182994>I will pay you 1 chicken for 30 bananas. Final offer.chicken futures are up 23% in the aftermarket trading. No deal!I'm buying triple leveraged inverse bear banana ETFs and there's nothing you can do to stop me. Bears always win!hahaha
>>60182854But they can only get b.ased beans from America.
>>60182961>>60182973>>60182992you're a russian shill in a tranime pedofaggot russian baked thread, just like your /chug/ shithole on /pol/
leveraged etf bros ... how we holding up?
>>60182903H-He’s alive!!?!?
>>60183001>t so.y beans from brazilBrazil is the world's leading basedbean producer and exporter, with a record harvest of 172.1 million metric tons expected in the 2024/2025 season,
i hope every miggers get lynched and die a painful and humiliating death
>>60182961Trump is just a retarded schizo Anon people are hoping he's paid or controlled because the other option is just much more depressing it's like Gorbby or Yeltsin in Russia high chance they weren't agents of the west but what they did destroying Russia so it's easier to call them soviet spy's
>>60183005Shorted ndaq x20 a while ago made back all losses from earlier this year. Not sure if to long or short today, in leaning on long I think for the day
>>60182600Every Disney film including Marvel capeshit releases there. Disney is fucked.
>>60182983Are you fucking retarded as a bonus I don't hear China being communist it's a hardcore dictatorship but fucking MAGA is being far more commie
>>60183010No, Brazil only makes s.oybeans. S.oybeans make you weak. American virile pvreblood b.asedbeans are what real men need.
China is going to win so hard even without an African Wave. Good vibes is not going to save us this time.
This whole website and all these inorganic generals are nothing more than kremlin ran intelligence gathering operations manufacturing consent and contrarian mental retardation
>>60183004>Posts nonsense about Russia being invaded by China >Your a Russian shillHoly shit I am on /pol/ refugee board next your going to be calling each other chinks or act blue
>>60183023basedbeans
>>60183013>
>>60183027i too say words
>>60183032I look like this and say this: >>60183027
convince me not to buy puts
>>60183027Here we have the fucking /pol/ refugee go back to /pol/ or Twitter I don't need to hear about the fucking Kremlin is being everything even more retarded then blaming the Hebrew
Everyone accuses each other of being a paid shill but I've never received any moneys for the shilling I do. Where do I sign up?
>BREAKING: Singapore's PM says it does not look like the US universal tariff of 10% is open for negotiationHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>60183032why did you post a picture of an american?
>>60182969>So how do us little guys take advantage?Invest in yourself (education, healthy eating, fitness). Always be learning. Don't fall for scams. Do not buy shit you do not need, save money, learn to invest (repair your can instead of buying a new one, high/higher interest savings). You can make money safely investing in stocks, most likely if you invest in safer ETFs. You need some cash for emergencies, some in the bank (bank can also be your broker). Watch the stock market cycle and learn from other's mistakes/losses. Go slow and easy investing is not gambling. Most YT vids are bullshit designed for clicks. Here is an exercise for you - can you spot the bot/fraud comments in the comments section of this vid?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQSLuPVuyQIThe vid and its contents is not important, its the comments. I have been watching the AI comments getting better and better over the years. Do not fall for the scam. Can you see it?
>>60183046Already posted the market is retarded 10 percent is the floor
>"VAT system is cheating tariffs" is the talking point of most of the Trump administrationI can't even determine their IQ at this point.
>>60183043sign ups closed last night bro
The Russian bitch shills getting angry at getting called out in their fagpedo general
>>60183055>Just kill your tax revenue broTbf the Americans consider it fair they are going to be running a larger deficit
>>60183043The sad reality is that 99% of shills do it for free ($0.00 Zero dollars, Zero cents), so it's better to pretend people are paid.
>>60183055>walkable cities are an indirect method of tariffing US automobiles
what makes 1pibbers so hostile
>>60183043What they don't tell you when they tell you to buy an ad is it comes with a wallet the jannies send payments to for your shill posts.
>>60183057It's over
>>60183058Are you alright ?
>>60183060That's what the tarief are for dumbass. Trump said dem foreigners will pay for us, so we will get rich and wont have no debt. Its simple really.
>>60183067>Amsterdam is a trade barrier This is going to be funny
>>60183027meds
>>60183073>dem foreignersUnironcally is he the first nigga president Obama was black but Trump is nigga
>>60182736
>your sources bro?>"i made it the fuck up in my free time"
>>60183073That’s right, Billy bob done told me the same thang down at the c’venience store. Mmmmhm.
>Trump threatens 50% tariffs on chinks if they dont back down>they dont and call your bluff>tariffs are to start tomorrow>markets rallyWhat the fuck is going on?
>>60183050what about crypto? nah?>Can you see it?holy shit, i never look at yidtube comments. but nearly every single one is a bot on that vid. lmao. all the pfp is ai generated. @mzondi1970 seems to be real, other than that. holykek
>>60183083Schizo barrier on /pol/ broke or people are going insane from Trump's actions reality is that he's just retarded no foreign powers involved here
>>60183090he's not going to do it
>>60183051>10% tariff across the board>announce 100% tariffs on China>drop 100% China tariff>market moons past ATHCinema
>>60183090I think the markets want to believe there will be a last minute deal
>>60183090how much selling do you need to see in order to consider the situation adequately priced in?
>>60183090>call your bluffOh fuck no Trump is going to tariff them but China is making sure that the whole US economy will join them also they've said they have enough reserve to do pumping
>>60183096So how much will this fake and gay market crash when he actually does it?
>>60183004>you're a russian shillBut I hate russia and want it to be destroyed?Sorry buddy, not everyone fits into your pre-assigned establishment approved narrativesBut if you actually have... like anything to say in response to what I said, that'd be great.Otherwise I'll just take your seethe as confirmation that I'm right. Honestly I kinda thought this thread was a bit higher quality.
>>60183102More, we have gone from bad to worst.
>>60183098>dropped China traiffHasn't dropped shit also next week is even worse his retarded plan for ships is coming >On April 17th the U.S. Trade Representative's office is expected to impose fees of up to $1.5M per port call for ships made in China and for $500k to $1M if the ocean carrier owns a single ship made in China or even has one on order from a Chinese shipyard. Tldr no one is safe from this everyone is fucked
>>60183015>Trump is just a retarded schizo Anon people are hoping he's paid or controlled because the other option is just much more depressing it's like Gorbby or Yeltsin in RussiaYes, trump is retarded but also his approach is going to fix thingsThe problem is that he used a sledgehammer to solve a scalpel problem. We really really really should have targeted tariffs to attack our enemies, and shored up support with our alliesinstead, trump went after the entire world. It's just not smartI think his heart is in the right place, it's just that he went way too big way too soonI get that he has to get as much done as quickly as possible in the 2 years he has before the midterms but this was kinda crazy
>>60183055how about actual mercantilismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Navarro#Trade_deficits
>>60183022>Are you fucking retarded as a bonus I don't hear China being communistdid you forget about the millions of people who starved to death under maoism? The mass starvation is a feature, not a bug of communism my dude.And commies, still to this day, want to control the food supply. I have no idea what their fascination is with it, but it always ends in tragedy. You can NEVER let commies get control of the food supply. never
>>60183119>but also his approach is going to fix things Nope lol he has aides saying VAT is a trade barrier to steel and aluminum Tariffs US is net importer so it will be expensive to import and won't be solved until investment enters the US which will be hard with volatile markets or a recession he's retarded plus his entire shipping plan is so retarded in fact that will probably kill US farmers for good
>>60183055>>"VAT system is cheating tariffs" is the talking point of most of the Trump administration>I can't even determine their IQ at this point.if the eurofags take that money and subsidize their own auto industry, then yes that is protectionismAs long as it's applied fairly across the board, then it's fine. It should just be zero tax, zero tariff free trade as a baseline. But if they're going to play games and be faggot little socialists then we're going to tariff them to offset the subsidy. It's real simple math.
>>60183109>>60183119>>60183126everything trump does hurts america and you're here acting retarded pretending there are benefits when there are noneyou are a retarded russian shill
>>60183091>what about crypto? nah?FUUUUUUUUUCK - I missed bitcoin in 2011 and failed crypto ever since. I am not in crypto so I can not comment other than fuck I missed it. I was to stupid and busy working.The financial news is scam, especially Jim Cramer whose job it is to mislead people who do not know better. Here is Cramer at his besthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkbdjetlY8If you don;t know Bear Stearns was collapsing and Cramer was telling everyone to stay in, and then it totally collapsed. Every major financial collapse (global crossing, Enron, all the big ones) had a big accounting firm sign off on their books claiming it was fine.
>>60183068>what makes 1pibbers so hostileThey don't really have anything to say of their own, they just wanna sperg out and get their jab inseems like the biz board has a lot of really faggoty overly emotional people on it. And lefitsts. But I repeat myself
>>60183126You are aware his people were ruthlessly killed and suppressed by the party afterwards same with fucking Stalin after he died in the USSR particularly insane Commies die after the dear leader dies also your rambling about China starving when I'm telling you that won't happen
>>60183087>>your sources bro?>>"i made it the fuck up in my free time"pic rel is unironically hilariousI love peter navarro, I really do. but he kinda needs to learn how to shut the fuck up sometimes lolHe makes trump look bad
>>60182138The Godfather looks fair
>>60183091>early every single one is a botthere is a pattern of "comments" claiming they are making big money and all you have to do is call their financial advisor.
>>60183090>>Trump threatens 50% tariffs on chinks if they dont back down>>they dont and call your bluff>>tariffs are to start tomorrow>>markets rally>What the fuck is going on?Kinda makes me think there's going to be a floor. How can the markets not crash again because of another 50% tariff added on top? When they coomed themselves into false rally for 0.5 microseconds based on a rumor of 90 day pause?But I don't think we're anywhere close to the bottomSo like, yeah... I'm in the same boat. How can the market not react to another 50% added on top? it makes no sense.
>>601831431pbtid russnigger pedo tranny bake
>>60183141>>60183158desu........stocks and finance shouldn't even be a thing. ban lending and usury
>>60183139>Russian shillJust as retarded as him mind you he's yapping about fucking communism which China barely practices anymore as it's more of a facist regime while you claim Trump is a Russian spy while he's just a retarded negro since I doubt Putin would want>ceasefire he's proposing >Crashing oil>tariffing China(main Russian market is China) >threatening 500 percent Tariffs if anyone buys Russian oil
>>60183139>everything trump does hurts america and you're here acting retarded pretending there are benefits when there are none>you are a retarded russian shillMan people are really triggered, aren't they?... Did you miss the part where I said trump is retarded and used a sledgehammer when he should have used a scalpel?You do realize there are people who are not polarized into left vs right, and can actually hold complicated nuanced views... right? I like trump overall but yeah he is being retarded with his nuking the whole world approachHe should have been way more selective with his targets. And only done it on our enemies. We should hurt our enemies and reward our allies. That's just basic common sense.
>>60181925>schizo is on a VPN
>>60182226Considering the US suddenly has on average 30% less purchasing power overnight, it's in no better position than a random EU country or Japan. Purchasing power still remains high though, so the market can't be ignored. But it's suddenly 30% poorer. Less of a priority.
>>60183148>about China starving when I'm telling you that won't happenand I'm telling you that mass starvation is not a bug, it's a featureThey don't value human life. They see mass death events as an opportunity in disguise. Mostly because they are evil and want to profit off misery, but also because honestly, those motherfuckers are smarter than us. They'll see stuff, think outside the box, and turn a loss into a win (partially)This is something they have done many times, even before communism. Same with russiaThe mass death events aren't an accident. Well sometimes they are. They are incompetent fucking communists after all. Some things never change
>>60183176>Considering the US suddenly has on average 30% less purchasing power overnightYou are assuming those tariffs will be paid by american consumers, not the countries or foreign companies absorbing the cost of the tariffsI don't really see that happening.And also, the tariffs generate tax revenue for the government. It's not like the money just disappears into the ether. It just means the government gets it and the people have less. Essentially a sales tax, but only on foreign goods.And I think a universal 10% tariff might be a good thing. But maybe like 5%, and zero for our buddies. And more for our enemies. It really shouldn't be universal and also apply to our allies. That's fucking retarded
Bobos such a fucking hoeI love itBobos such a fucking TRAMPI love it
the market is just thrashing due to a large portion of retarded investors buying the dip and believing every word trump and fox news says.Even rich people can be sheep and retarded so they are going all in.There will be a point where the selling exhausts itself but we are not there yet, probably not for a while.
>>60183176America is like 1/3 of the entire consumer market on this planet or something insane like that. So good luck finding an alternative to fill that black hole.
>>60183302>rich people are retarded not meanon...
>>60183198>Essentially a sales tax, but only on foreign goodsBut sales taxes/VAT only apply to end products being sold to consumers. The tariffs will raise the price of inputs - raw materials, partly-made components etc. This will have an effect all throughout the manufacturing process
>>60183160The markets think he will back down
>>60183302>the market is just thrashing due to a large portion of retarded investors buying the dip and believing every word trump and fox news says.>Even rich people can be sheep and retarded so they are going all in.>There will be a point where the selling exhausts itself but we are not there yet, probably not for a while.I still don't know why there wasn't an even bigger crash with the extra 50% tariffs on china thoughit's up to 104% now!That's a 100% tariff. That's like crazy!I mean seriously. The market hiccupped after the rumor about 90 day pause, and then... went up slightly by end of day? Like what the fuck?I really still don't get it.
>>60183198sir, the tariff, set by the country, is applied to the company or person purchasing the product. If an American company is buying the coffee from south america somewhere and south america has a 100% tariff set on it by the US government, and lets say its base price is 10 dollars, its now at the moment the company pay 20 dollars. 10 of those dollars are scooped up automatically by the government and can now be used by said government to do whatever they feel like.At this point the company that paid the 20 dollars now has a decision to either raise the price of the product, eat the entire cost, or split it somehow. At no point did the other country have to deal with the tariff itself. If the US set a 100% tariff they scoop up that fucking money and get it. Now...the company is likely to make the customer eat part of that for sure.This isn't a choice, its just grabbing money to use it for some purpose, explained as the betterment of a nation sometimes, like roads and shit, or infrastructure. The problem is most modern nations have never had more than 2% actual tariff and now we have 10% permanent + 20-50% bonus tariff which is business shattering.
>>60182501I have a trade deficit with my supermarketWtf this is a reserve status problem! I'll tariff my supermarket!
>>60183332>The markets think he will back downAs far as that goes, yeah I think I agree with you. There's no way 104% tariff stays on china as the final number. Maybe 10% or more. Perhaps 20? 30 maybe?I think people just don't believe it.as far that meme goes... I don't understand why people don't understand it can't be both?You can have certain countries you tariff more. Other countries, you'd rather make a deal so you threaten tariffs as a negotiating tactic and end up with no tariffs on them. So you get both, in different situations.If you win either way, then you have walk away power. That's what trump is doing. I'm not sure if that's actually true, but that's what he's trying to communicateEither we get a better deal and use the tariffs as a negotiating tactic, or we get tariffs and either way we win.
>futures are upbets on if they collapse today or not?>>60181925sex with this hag
Bobos getting spanked, what else is new? Go back into your cave, bears, you thought you could doom the world's greatest economy? THINK AGAIN!
>>60183352>At this point the company that paid the 20 dollars now has a decision to either raise the price of the product, eat the entire cost, or split it somehow. At no point did the other country have to deal with the tariff itself. If the US set a 100% tariff they scoop up that fucking money and get it. Now...the company is likely to make the customer eat part of that for sure.> At no point did the other country have to deal with the tariff itself.Sure they did. If that's a foreign company, then they have to raise prices which hurts their competitveness (without increasing profit from higher prices at all), or eat the cost themselves which hurts their profits, or some combination of both.That is going to hurt the foreign company.If it's an american company running a factory in china or whatever, of course that hurts china too since perhaps that factory will now close down because it can't be profitable with 100% tariffs. It will also hurt the american company running the factory.And so that complicates matters if it's not a chinese company in china getting hit with the tariff.>This isn't a choice, its just grabbing money to use it for some purpose, explained as the betterment of a nation sometimes, like roads and shit, or infrastructure. The problem is most modern nations have never had more than 2% actual tariff and now we have 10% permanent + 20-50% bonus tariff which is business shattering.yes, it is business shattering. As corrupt, scamming, and dishonest as the chinese have been, there's no way there's so much slack in the system that they can eat 104% tariff and still be profitable. Or, put the other way, raise prices to be double (and not eat the cost at all) and still be an attractive product at double the price but still being cheap chinese crap at the end of the day.That's their whole business model. Make cheap chinese crap, but it's cheap! What if you double the price? No one buys it.
>>60182501But why? Trade deficits aren't even an issue, and having reserve currency status is good.
The White House visit yielded no progress in negotiations or in lifting the tariffs imposed by Trump on Israel.Source: Israeli Broadcasting Authority
>>60183413I just don't think shuttering 30-40% of small and mid size business is a good republican plan, because none of them can afford this.imagine if you campaign on shutting down all small caps in america because you think you can retire them for megafactories you are going to build in 3 years with magic money, but instead of spending all that tariff whale money on doing that, they just give a tax break to the upper class (thats what they are doing)
>>60183360>I have a trade deficit with my supermarket>Wtf this is a reserve status problem! I'll tariff my supermarket!And this economic illiterate talking point again.What if you have a trade deficit with the entire outside world? What if you are taking in less money from your job, than the money you spend on paying bills and buying shit?You will eventually be bankrupt and homeless. You can't just keep buying shit forever. You need to actually sell shit and make things.Now, the problem is america DOES sell shit, it's just services rather than physical goods. So the "trade deficit" as proposed by trump is actually a lie. The total trade balance when you include physical goods and also services is pretty even.It's just that this means wall street and silicon valley are where the real money is made here, and our manufacturing base is fucked.That part is true. And that fucks the middle class who don't want to work in an office, and can work with their hands doing skilled trade or even manual labor type shit.Overall, trump is full of shit, and there is no trade imbalance. Only if you just look at physical goods.And overall... the economy is doing fine in that regard. It's just that the profit are unevenly split, and the middle class has been fucked over to the benefit of college degree office worker drones and mega corps.We really have lost our manufacturing base, and it really has fucked over the middle class.
>>60183439yeah they’re not lifting shit for anyone
>34 posts by this retarded purple nigger
>>60183441>I just don't think shuttering 30-40% of small and mid size business is a good republican plan, because none of them can afford this.Yeah I agree. the small caps are more risky, and take a downturn harder. We know this. the small caps always crash harder in a recession. The large caps are more durableAnd fucking over the small caps... is like, the opposite of what he says he wants to do.>imagine if you campaign on shutting down all small caps in america because you think you can retire them for megafactoriesyeah, that's the problem. It's what's going to happen if we stay on the path we're on. >but instead of spending all that tariff whale money on doing that, they just give a tax break to the upper class (thats what they are doing)and trump NEEDS to focus on middle class tax cuts.no tax on social security I think will be very popular. and no tax on tips as well. not sure how many people will benefit from that, but obviously that's working class type shitBut he needs to like, explicitly lower taxes on poor people and middle class people. More than cutting taxes on rich people. He really needs to.If he says "there's gonna be jobs jobs jobs, folks, and no income tax. You're gonna be rich folks" that is really gonna sell well.
>>60183470what won’t sell well is the massive economic downturn and poverty this shit will induce
>>60183468the fact that so many people seethe, but can't quite put into words why they disagree, then claim I'm a russia shill or a trump shill...I kinda just proves my point.You have been buck broken biz. I'm sorry. If all you got is impotent seethe and taking potshots as 1pbtID then you have lost.Better luck next time, nigger faggots.
>>60183461And that's already priced in? Seems like it wasn't as big of a shock as expected.
Reality will hit like a truck on wednesday and the crash will be historic.
putbros did we get too cocky?
>>60183478I think the market is delusional still and won’t crumple till the fat lady sings
>>60183478They will all kneel to the might of the US GOLDEN GOD on Wednesday. Bobos will be littering the streets.
>>60183477you are not new, you are not special, you are not someone btfoing anyoneyou are just one of hundreds of retarded spammers shitting up this board for years now that thinks people telling him to shut the fuck up with his retardation is a concession>>60183485I will keep my put ready for the collapse
At this point the tariffs are going to actually drop and the market will only slightly dip as the new cope turn into "Well he'll never keep the tariffs for longer than a month or two" and somehow that will sustain the market until financial reports start hitting
>>60183137You are retarded
Bottom is in. Time to sloooorp.
Trump Advisor Peter Navarro moments ago on talking about Elon Musk:Elon “is not a car manufacturer. He’s a car assembler.”OH SHITTT
>>60183004the fuck are you talking about go back to shilling on /pol/>>60182085she won't let you because that is nasty>>60181976too bad endure another yukari bake >>60182945>russiameh, i think it's gonna be the chabad axis (US-Russia-Israel) vs everyone else>I'm not hiding that I'm a trump fan? bro i was talking about the other anon, not you. >>60183527>>60183527>>60183527>>60183527new thread, move when ready
So I guess the plunge protection team nuked crypto on sunday so they have funds to pump major indexes and stop the panic
>>60183477China sends the US real goods, USA pays for these goods in debt because the dollars China gets are often reinvested in US treasuries. This in actu means that Chinese peasants are sending you real products while they get something that you just printed and made up in return. The deficit represents just another way of how financialized and indebted the USA is, but China represents only 3% of all US debt, so why seethe about the chink deficit if its actually a big reason why you are a wealthy consumer market. Do you want to be like us europoors but without benefits and living in a milieu that amounts to a big parking lot?All of this allows the average american (in comparison to the average yuropoor):1. 2x more electricity consumption2. 2–3x more water consumption3. more fuel and calories4. life in a significantly bigger space
>>60182103did you not see trump sperging out about bowling balls? mf just hates everyone.
