So is Europe becoming a libertarian paradise?
>this kills the german
All EVs are goyboxes for faggots lol
>put tariff>remove tariff>WE ARE WINNINGmiga tier
>>60233035Europe driving shitty Chinese cars, sounds about right
>>60233035Doesn't this kill the German Industry?
>>60233090Yep, but apparently that was planned all along
>>60233035>Trump handed China this W on a silver platterB-b-but, art of the... deal...
Fucking kek. Migapedes told me the US and EU would unite against China, tho!
>>60233090German industry was already a dead man walking and the new government has gone full bore for 0 carbon emissions
Somehow Elon finds a way to get cucked again
>>60233090Germans have already killed the German industry
>>60233035That's extremely bad for Europe, though.
>>60233035you mean to tell me miggers are retarded and trump is an actual fucking idiot who pushed everyone to china, lied about it again, and their 11D backgammon was actually just spur of the moment bait for low iqs?
>>60233071>>60233125>>60233236Do you shitskins have some discord or other messaging service you use to communicate?
>>60233035basedarise, Sino-Euro super power
>>60233035No ay this comes through because of what >>60233056 says.
>>60233232How is free trade bad for Europe?
>>60233236Perhaps. Maybe, just maybe, trying to literally extort the rest of the world will make them instead want to trade with the alternative partner who is not doing that.
>>60233232how? please explain
>>60233271China massively subsidizes, drops prices, destroys native industry, then they no longer have to act competitively and the consumers will be at their whim.See >>60233090
>>60233260Probably a discord or private reddit. They're all pretty obvious raiding tourists.
>>60233323Sounds like a win for the consumer then, they get cheap subsidized Chinese cars and China uses their tax dollars to reduce the price for us, it’s a win-win
>>60233035europe is going to become a microelectronics consumer powerhouseamerica just gave it up. not to mention pulling money from the chips act to maybe replace itwhy would anyone invest in this retarded shit unless they're americans trying to save what little they have
>>60233266Germans barely have any pull anymore, especially not since ICE cars (for which German brands still stand for mostly) became literally the devil combined with Germans really enjoying to abolish themselves.I wouldn't be surprised if this really goes through now.
>>60233365fuck yeah I'm gonna get me the alibaba tesla
>>60233260>low iq migger calling anyone else a shitskinyou are the shitskin, mutt, you will never be a full-blooded european
>>60233365Are you unfamiliar with predatory pricing? Monopolies destroy competition, then they no longer have to sell cheap or improve their product. It's not simple to restart a destroyed industry, especially over and over.
>>60233056Actually German car manufacturers were the ones who wanted no tariffs on Chinese EVs because they closely cooperate with Chinese manufacturers and China is one of their biggest export markets, so they were afraid of retaliation.
>>60233382Germany is the only country with pull in EU. France. Italy, Spain and Greece are a fucking disgrace of government gibs. If you introduce chink products without tariffs into europe the little industry it had will die and countries will become bankrupt.
>>60233323This is basically what companies do all the time>enter market with absolutely insanely competitive offers/prices but go massively into dept >established competition can't keep up with your prices and leave one by one>you keep your course while stacking up dept until every single one of your competitors croaked>you now have the entire market for yourself>crank up prices massively >get rid of your depts>???>profit
>>60233443Germany doesn't need an automotive industry, or power plants, and Europe doesn't need an industrialised Germany. All that matters is that we own the Americans and retain the freedom to arrest people for mean tweets and ban popular political parties from running. If that means becoming a completely subservient vassal state to China, so be it.
>>60233473yup. this board is full of morons who just think china=bad cuz trump said so
>>60233056An alliance is probably the best option. EVs are a luxury in Europe by decision of European companies that ignored the average consumer.
>>60233443So? If China jacks up their prices, we’ll just buy from someone else.
>>60233492But enough of the Russia propaganda slop.
>>60233503europe is already a vassal state to the US. and now it's saying fuck u to them, as it should
>>60233035kek, enjoy those chink cars I'm sure nothing will go wrong
>>60233541There won't be anyone else. Did you miss the part where you can't just restart the automotive industry in your garage?>>60233558Russia and China are allies.
>>60233035>Yuropeans will have BYDs and we won't.it's literally not fair bros.
>>60233559Yuropoors are gonna miss the days of being American vassals when they're chink vassals in a couple years.
>flood your car market with cheap chinese shit to pwn the yanksSurely this will not have bad unintended consequences for germany and italy and their cars.
>>60233596There’s always someone else. If not China, and not a domestic industry, we can just buy from Russia, or Mexico, or Africa.
>>60233035Another victory is that trump has screwed russia harder than any weapon shipments ever could by making crude oil tank
>>60233509China is bad because you stupid chinks are shitting up every board and too dumb to realize we see you since your IQ scores are fake.
I was told we were isolating China from everyone else
>>60233056seethe french fag
>>60233686>>Yuropeans will have BYDs and we won't.>it's literally not fair bros.
>>60233430Americans are the only reason anyone cares about white people, no one gives a fuck about estolakia or whatever eastern meme country you are from, since we know you're eastern european since you losers have your fake "1000 years of history" but can't cite any definitive figures from before the 19th century./s
I'm sure our western overrregulated car manufacturers can make electric cars for 15k$
>>60233794>/s>>>/r/eddit
>>60233370Doubtful. Europeans aren't into that kind of stuff
>>60233056does it?
>>60233559>blockade europe with russia>watch them dieRemember, you asked for this by being a faggot.
>>60233841Yes, the German politicians have consistently voted to destroy Germany because they believe they must repent. Why do you think AfD is leading now?
>>60233260>Do you shitskins have some discord or other messaging service you use to communicate?post hand with timestamp.
>>60233035uhm, drumpfbros...
>>60233054>So is Europe becoming a libertarian paradise?They get rich if they are. The money is going from US treasuries straight to the Euro right now. Japan, China, South Korea trust the Euro not the dollar. Bigly event, the US has ten drillion in debt to refinance this year primarily to foreign lenders who Trump and Maga has done nothinng but insult. I guess maga will have to buy that debt themselves to keep the lights on in the USA Remorgaging applications are now being declined en mass in the US. Its turnig ugly and the next vertical drop is tomorrow and monday.
>>60233904>leadingAnd in the end it literally doesn't even matter
>>60233904You do realize that the AfD will never be in power right? Even if by some miracle they ever got a plurality of the votes, the other parties would just form a coalition against them with the majority
>>60233260>>60233363you know miggers are seething when they accuse people of being part of secret discord raids
>>60233974It won't matter until they get 40%, but it will be too late by then.>>60233989Correct. The mass brownification prevent it.
>>60233966>US has ten trillion in debtits not a drillion but a trillion. While trying to borrow ten trillion the US just insulted all its lenders. Dollar is facing a reconing soon.
>>60233989>Even if by some miracle they ever got a plurality of the votesThat chart already shows a plurality, though it's not exactly a vote, I wouldn't call it some miracle for surveys to line up with votes.>>60234010*will prevent it
>>60234065If they get 25%, the other 75% will team up against them.
>>60234096Yes, I know. I already said they need around 40% (due to the way their system works). It will be too late to recover by then.
>>60233904AFD is a Russian backed populist shitfest just like the communists and the french national front, farage, fico etc. You are probably a Russian propagandist >>60233904>>60233989>You do realize that the AfD will never be in power right?Because it is controlled by the kremlin the same kremlin who shoves immigrants over the borders of finalnd, estonia, poland and runs trafficing over the mediterranean via wagner proxies in africa and libya
>>60233430this. rednecks will never be fully white.they fail quality control and aren't progeny of high western thought. it's no wonder that guys like richard spencer had a psychotic break over being surrounded by so many 70iq muttoids and have been trying to push some weird natowave aesthetic just to escape the abject reality of the mutt redneck.
>>60234122>richard spencerMarried to a Russian and had children with one just like Lee Harvey Oswald you sure LOVE your russian quislings
>>60234151observe the muttnigger iq in action.anyone with an iq > 100 can infer that I'm mocking spencer, but this muttnigger is completely oblivious.
>>60234188>muttniggerPost hand with timestamp.
>>60233067Europe has limited domestic sources of oil and gas. The North Sea is declining, Groningen got shut down, and they have banned fracking. So electrification looks to make a lot of economic sense assuming they can get the renewables and nuclear to scale. Energy imports are an area that they could very much use some leverage in.
>>60233067>i am more masculine because my vehicle requires petrolkys dumb macho faggot
>>60233904> Single poll puts AFD on top after the CDU just formed a government Just have to wait another 4 years when there's another election and this might actually mean something!
>>60233998It's very obviously a raid nigger
>>60234366Electric is still inferior to oil
>>60234803Are the discord raiders in the room with us right now?
>>60233067EV is fast. Have you been in one?
>>60233035This is for Nord Stream
>>60234900Why would you retards raid a dead board on a dead anime website? Go raid reddit or something.
>>60234810How inferior? By what percent? Offset that by what percent can Europe cut oil or gas importation or stretch existing domestic supplies into the future or get a better price on imports.When you push the pedal, the car moves.
>>60234975>NOOO STOP SAYING MEAN THINGS ABOUT KING KIKE MODS HELP ME!!!are you ready to get drafted for israel?
>>60234290still waiting for yours >>60233918
>>60234976They should have just made a deal with Russia lel
>>60233090Yes but the leaders could give to shits if Hans has to beg on the street corner for schnitzel.
>>60235014Why would you retards raid a dead board on a dead anime website?
>>60233365I've seen the webms of Chinese drivers. Imagine teh software in those cars..self driving china car.
>>60235086There is no raid, take your meds.
>>60234119>AFD is a Russian backedNo that's BSW. AFD is the classic right wing jewish backed trojan horse.
>>60233090German industry needs to focus on producing nothing but tanks and IFVs for the next ten to twenty years. No time for civilian cars. They need to get ready to fight Russia armed with American lend-lease, again.
>>60235140There is very clearly a raid >>60234803
>>60235224lol just go ahead and say that you think that anyone who shits on trump is an evil discord raider. that's obviously what you're implying here
EU X CHINA REALIGNMENT COMINGSEALION 7 WORLDWIDE
>>60233829i get a different impression from using them
its social media farms, funded by sorosyou can pay people like $1/day to push whatever agenda you want
>>60235020>asking before doing it yourselfI no longer need anything from you. I've already confirmed it.
>>60234803>>60235224This board is just more entertaining when the economy is in chaos.
>>60235284Compared to what cars europe making and at what price these chink evs looking quite good.
>>60235224>coming over from a different board because of a happening is a raid
>>60233035>"...and fuck Elon in particular"
>>60233035NOOOOOOO BUY ELON'S CAR
>>60233067guys is it gay to save money on my daily commute
>>60233035That's really good actually
>>60234976>>60235025And desu that's a shit take. No one is talking about the lack of recyclability on batteries and solar panels. By trying to solve a "problem" like greenhouse gases or whatever the fuck, you create an even more complicated and expensive problem. The only advantage to the new EVs is that they can be remote controlled and bricked if so desired. And I'm sure there is much desire to do so already, but that hand hasn't been played yet
>>60235324Agree>>60235388>coming over to another board en masse to shit it up with slide threads because of a happening is a raidQuite actually yes. Do you have a problem with definitions?
>>60235521>already changing the goalpost from "discord raid"
>>60235521a raid implies it's being organized by some chat group. it is not
>>60235480For China, really bad for Europe.>>60235427>destroying our countries to own the cons
>>60233323>>60233443Is there an example of China taking over an industry and then raising prices? As far as I know, when China takes over an industry, prices just keep getting cheaper. E.g. photovoltaics. China has a million companies that compete with each other
>>60235025>>60235506You didn't answer the question where he asked how electric cars were inferior to ICE cars. Nice reading comprehension. Don't work your little brain too hard.
>>60235741I absolutely did you fuckwit, you just don't want to hear it. Take your EV and drive off a cliff
>>60235574>changing the goalpost by addressing exactly what anon saidPlus>raids don't count if they come from a different source, somehow :^]Ok>>60235583>a raid is now something very specific because I want it to be soOkWell at the very least this is something positive. They aren't sending their best (they never were)
>>60235427I bet she was a fox in her prime
>>60235615no need, the cons are already destroying their own countries kek
>>60235872That doesn't make sense, Mr. ESL. We're talking about her destroying the countries in her union.>no needIf she doesn't need to, then why is she doing it?
>>60233473Yeah same with Peugeot. Most of europeans car makers have been long on China.
>>60233794>Americans>WhiteTop kek
>>60233056chink EVs aren't in competition with german cars retard, they're in competition with frog shitboxes
>>60233035>Letting chinky fongs take over the ev market in yuropoor land.
Europeans are always freeloaders and willing to stab any ally in the back>They never thanked us for the Marshall plan>They never thanks us for American Lend Lease>They never thanked us for NATO during the cold warAll during this time where up until 2019 they were buying LNGs exclusively from Qatar and Algeria.Europeans are nothing but a bunch of lying gay faggots. We've never been allies to these inbred freaks.I'm tired of bailing grandpa out of jail because he keeps drinking and driving.Europe has not done a single reciprocal thing for the US within a CENTURY. All they can physically do is emotionally blackmail us because their world leaders are a bunch of pedophiles like Prince Charles.Europe has always been authoritarian and appeases to it like a fly on horse shit. They've just been crippled for 100 years to show it.
Fuck Americans. >>60235859She is hotter now. Check it out
>>60236436Germans sell car parts to China so theyll profit
>>60235827Increased traffic != raid. Stop being upset that other people think you are retarded. It's your fault, not theirs.
>>60236418>le ebin kek my fellow ledditor from r/4chan!I was wondering who that retarded "/s" posting subhuman was posting for, but I guess he has his audience here.
>>60236447I thanked USA for keeping my country independent twice.But USA was a different nation back then.
>>60233035That won't happen. No way Germany will allow that.
>>60237004The US is still the same nation, but we've had enough of everyone's shit so we voted in orange man as a big fuck you to the world. He was always the chaos choice even back in 2016
>>60235615Chinamen gobble up BMWs like mad, it'll be fine.
>>60236502Yeah and when the chinks get a leg and start going upmarket at a lower price point. Then what? Volkswagen can't live off their shitty in my opinion reputation forever. I've a few VW diesel that were dogshit
>>60233125That would've been the plan had the orange retard not decided to antagonize the entire world.
>>60234700And if the CDU actually pulls through with their migration policies, they will reach high 20s again and the AfD loses support.
>muh EVsThe only reason anyone bothers with those is the scaremongering over "global warming", we should be glad China allows green lefties to virtue signal on the cheap, meanwhile we can focus on making real cars that men buy
>>60234803nice organic filename poltard
>>60237440Thanks but I'm not a /pol/tard
>>60233966it's unfathomable to me how can the orange retard declare a trade war with the whole world when they are indebted to them.Japan was the one selling bonds that make him panic, now imagine if he pisses China and Japan enough to make them form a coalition and dumb their holdings.
>>60236447In this thread european faggots ignore the obvious and want to gloss it over with orange man bad
>>60235704That's because they have no labor laws and their government policy covers 100% of trade tariffs with other countries. All that is well and good if you like cheap stuff and doesn't care subhumans are being exploited, but that means they hold a piece of the pie. Long term they can do whatever they want, and they excel at that because of centralized planning and no leadership change because they have no elections.
>>60235704>Is there an example of China taking over an industry and then raising prices?Ehhhmmm ughhhhh MAGA! We must die in Taiwan!
>>60233090Mostly Tesla and Ford
>>60233035Kek this has to be fake news they would immediately lose all there car manufacturing
>>60233071ESL
>>60233035So the German car industry is dead now. They killed real cars with regulations and their EVs couldn't compete with government subsidized chink manufacturers even under current tariffs.>muh hecking car partsYeah, enjoy being a glorified part shop, Heinrich. Just don't get too used to it since you're gonna get downgraded to a scrapyard next.
>>60238910Europe would rather let their wives get fucked abdul and tyrone than rely on their "allies"Until 2019 they exclusively bought LNGs from qatar and algeria. Then they switched to Russian after 2019.To be an ally you have to respect the other nation, europe routinely squanders that
>>60233090Yeah it's already struggling because they can't compete price wise with chinese cars even with EU tariffs. Lots of german workers are losing their jobs too. This basically kills it.
>>60233035Holy fuck, Germans are stupid.
>>60233035kek that's hilarious and bad for Germoney.
>>60233035Bet you wish you listened to me and bought BYD.
>>60233443That doesn't work in China's case because they have a very competitive EV industry which is part of the reason prices have been driven so low. It's actually more true of the USA.
it would be funny if every other country removed all their tariffs for everyone but the UShaha
>>60233365You learned nothing from COVID or great power struggleYou might as well only buy Chinese weapons or better yet, why make anything at all? Let China make everything for you, it'll be cheaper
>>60233443Protip: this has never actually happened. Ever. In the history of humanity. Companies that undercut their competition have to maintain low prices to maintain their position. If they raise prices competition pops back up.
>>60240156Start a car manufacturer tomorrow, and yes, I mean literally you.
>>60233966>euro>investmentSee you in two weeks when they inevitably start mass murdering each other over a stolen village bucket again.
>>60239573No, if it's China it must be because of deflation because they are collapsing in a Zeihan-Chang sinkholee. It can't be because they have an actual functioning market.
>>60233260Not everyone here is you, faggot
>>60233035Woo the great Sino-European alliance strengthens, lets goo
>>60234810Hydrocarbons have only one advantage over electricity in the modern day and that is lossless transmission via pipesIn every other way electricity is superior
>>60240202I accept your defeat.
>>60240369Why don't you want to become a billionaire?
>>60240156I too believe that anazobs pricing and supply model remains completely unchanged from when they first started doing business, and don't even get me started on the ever increasing performance and ever decreasing prices of consumer GPUsCorpo drones like you need to be rounded up and shot for your own good
>>60233054At one point Japan was a heavily militarized nationalistic country known for its verocity and ability. Now they are uwu land. Things change.
>>60233056>>60233090It killed itself by putting 70k for a basic car and having engine parts that require 20k to replace every year or half a year.
>>60240435Amazon is still cheap. Everything got more expensive, not just Amazon.
>>60234151Russians are white and so is ukraine.Ukraine was literally invaded many times to enslave the white workers there.>>60234188>shits on white rednecks and spencer>dude I was mocking them!Average 90 iq midwit.
>>60233035Euro Socialism + Chinese CommunismWhat could go wrong?
>>60238746The unfathomable thing here is that you thing its the US that is indebted to anyone. Unless you're speaking financially
>>60241385yes, this is a finance board, we're speaking financially, retard
>>60240765>Russians are whiteI've seen hundreds on images of dead/PoW Russians and like 20% of them are white passing
>>60240156You're literally retarded lmao
>>60233090German industry is developing hydrogen cars, they don't really have faith in EVs.
>>60234803a discord raid just flew over my house!!
>>60241436thats because they use minorities as cannon fodder [spoiler]like america[/spoiler]
>>60236546Calling a mutt a mutt is just plain fact and been a 4chan thing from start, you newfag. Cope and dilate.
>>60243592nice esl anon maybe one day you'll fit in
>>60233090>Doesn't this kill the German Industry?nomostly will hurt Italian and French automakersi live in Germanyand Chinese Cars are already here and are cheaperguess whatVW still has 50% market sharepeople still buy BMW, Mercedes and even Porsche (a lot of Taycans in my neighborhood)BYD - arguably they qualitatively best chinese car maker - is behind all German premium brands, even their upscale brand Denzathe only redeeming quality is their pricebut no one caresmost new cars (like 2/3s) in Germany are leased through a companyand big companies have contracts with manufacturersand they look on other things like good service and status, price is only a secondary thoughti got a VW ID7 myself and pay like ~100€/month because company pays for almost all of it
>>60243592You still don't get it, turdmutt.
>Promise the end of NATO>Shit on Europe CONSTANTLY for monthsDid fox news tell you guys we're your vassals or something? We don't HAVE to listen to the US and when the US announces they are not going to be our ally anymore, we will make other alliances. Or do you guys somehow think words have no meaning and you can just send that faggot Vance here to say anything he likes? Newsflash: words spoken by high-level officials actually mean a lot, politics isn't twitter.
>>60233035Nice. But even as an Eurocuck, I don't give a shit about EVs, I'm actually strongly against them. They're pushed so hard because they can be used in the future to fuck you up. You're behind with your payments? Bank can lock the car until you pay. Maybe you said something wrong about the government? Same, hell, it can even lock you inside until coppers show up or use autopilot to deliver you straight to the station.Also, they can become useless bricks if something on the level of Carrington Event happens. Or EMP weapons are used. Or just Chinese battery goes whoosh with you inside.
>>60233175>>60233146>German industry was already a dead man walkingyeah nostill having 8%+ operating margins (in 2024) and actually making money selling cars>>60239194>Yeah it's already struggling because they can't compete price wise with chinese cars even with EU tariffs. where are those imaginary cheap chinese cars?BYD Dolphin is the same price as VW ID3 and is shittier in almost every aspectsame with BYD Atto3 and VW ID4and VW core brand is expensive, subbrands or others like Stellantis have less expensive cars>Lots of german workers are losing their jobs toono they don'talso EU tariffs on chinese cars are "only" ~17%
>>60243690>VW still has 50% market sharesounds great and very promising, yeah, good for you guys
>>60243731Same here, EV's were a huge fucking mistake. If you were here back in early 2010's "Who killed the electric car" was already shilled incessantly on this website and I wonder how much Musk was aware of this place even back then because now that I think back it can't have been a coincidence
>>60233090>Doesn't this kill the German Industry?No. It will kill EU citizens that buy Chinese electric vehicles.
>>60233035I may be an eurocuck but ill never drive an EV, let alone a chink toycar.
>>60234119You are gay
>>60237090They dont
>>60233260The easiest thing the world unites on is disliking the US, it's so enjoyable they'll sell out their own country to do so.
>>60235859She was bretty cute
>>60233966>>60233054>>60233035cope
>>60239563i sold my shares recently because i dont get how buying shares of BYDDY actually works, since you can't really invest in China technically?
>>60233035>be EU>nearly kill domestic car industry by violently pushing it towards electric>deal the finishing blow by allowing cheap chink electric cars into EuropeTrump please invade Europ
>>60243741that's the ICE partand it was expectedelectric cars are much easier and simpler to buildslow economy also had it's impactbut that's not (directly) related to Chinese auto makerscars for the Chinese market are mainly build in China (except for some of the most expensive models like Mercedes S-class)and, again, Chinese cars have a minuscule market share in Europealso at least one of the factories will be retrofitted for military equipmentsecond one is still in discussion
>>60243690>>Doesn't this kill the German Industry?>noYou're retarded.The EU is killing ICE, forcing EU makers to switch to electric, and now they're about to unleash cheap Chinese EVs.It's the perfect pincer attack by Europe on Europe.
>ITT dozens of doomer / anti EU industry posts that have nothing to do with realityis this some kind of Psyops???in reality EU car industry is doing okay(ish), mostly profitable with less subsidies than China where almost all EV manufacturers are still losing money for every car soldthe most profitable electric cars produced are Tesla, Porsche, BMW and Mercedes (in this order)they all make (theoretically) 15%+ margins on every car >>60243997>nearly kill domestic car industry by violently pushing it towards electricall EU car makers have profitable! electric modelsand electric cars sold in the EU are mainly made in the EU
>>60244082I’m finnish and our locan image board is filled to brim with actual russian bots who endlessly post dumb shit about how finland is bad, how eu is bad, how russia is doing well, incel shit, chud shit ect. You’re seeing those guys in real action. Yeah their arguments are always this dumb and not based on reality. They just hope they can achieve the same in europe as what they just achieved in USA.
>>60244082>all EU car makers have profitable! electric modelsnot for long kekDid you know the EU is considering abolishing tariffs on cheap chink EVs?I think I saw a thread on it somewhere.
>>60244075>The EU is killing ICEbecause ICEs are retarded for most people90% of people drive cheaper and more reliable with an electric caralso EU doesn't have much Oilbeing reliant on constant Oil imports is a massive geopolitical risk and dependencythere is not a single counter argument other than the higher upfront cost (again but lower total ownership cost) for EVs for most people>and now they're about to unleash cheap Chinese EVs.no they are notthere are ~17% tariffs on chinese carsand currently a minimum price on Chinese Cars is in discussion to replace thosethey are NOT simply abolishing the tariffsand again Chinese cars are not that much cheaperthe price difference is something like 10-20% maxcars don't get sold solely based off pricestatus, quality, performance, service network etc. are all factors
>>60244140>they are NOT simply abolishing the tariffsAnd then you woke up and opened pic in OP
>>60244139>Did you know the EU is considering abolishing tariffs on cheap chink EVs?NO THERE ARE NOTfucking psyopsthey are in talks to replace the tariffschinese car manufacturers are massively subsidizedmost recent discussion is that these tariffs are replaced with minimum pricescontrary to what people seem to think here, the EU trade commission typically makes GOOD deals for the EU economy
>>60244150>And then you woke up and opened pic in OP>xitter screenshotkeksurely no one on X would ever post something intentionally misleading
>>60244172>>60244182You know you can google this right.>being reliant on constant Oil imports is a massive geopolitical risk and dependencyEurope doesn't have any raw materials for batteries either.What Europe does have is highly coveted high-end ICE vehicles. The entire world craves them, especially the US and China.
>>60244213>You know you can google this right.yeah and it says exactly what I written...tariffs may be replaced by minimum price>Europe doesn't have any raw materials for batteries either.there are lithium reserves in Europebut it's dirty to mine, so no one really wants toalso more countries can produce lithium than oil, it's not really rarebut doesn't matter as muchyou can recycle lithium from lithium ion and get back 99,9%+ of the lithiumthe first big recycling plant in Germany actually opened in 2024so once enough lithium is there you don't need to import it>What Europe does have is highly coveted high-end ICE vehicles. The entire world craves them, especially the US and China.and they are still being soldso what's your pointbut China will almost certainly switch 100% to EVs (they also have no oil)and again, the average person drives a lot cheaper with an EV (even with German electricity prices)
>>60244313>and they are still being soldThey keep getting gimped by the ever increasing emissions regulations from the EU.Look at Ferrari's latest flagship, the F80. It has a paltry little V6 that makes a terrible sound and everyone hates it.Merc's AMG line keeps ditching their iconic V8s for heavy unexciting hybrid crap that everyone hates.Same etc. etc. etc.The EU is killing its own icons.
>>60244379>AMGproduces like 20k-30k vehicles per year>Ferrarimaybe 10k? cars per year, with €5billion revenuethis is not the European car industrybarely any jobs, barely any revenueEU regulation are only relevant in the EUthey can produce anything they want for other marketscomplain to the US / Chinese gov. if they have the same regulation...>for heavy unexciting hybrid crap that everyone hatesdelusionalthey still sell and still have a good brand imagejust because you don't like themyou are not more intelligent than the dozens of analysts at those brands whos only job it is to find out what their customers want
>>60244449AMG and Ferrari are just two examples of the pinnacle of European carmaking.Their prestige trickles projects on the rest of European carmakers.>EU regulation are only relevant in the EU>they can produce anything they want for other marketsOh yes, because having to spread your resources across two completely different design, development and production lines is totally not a massive burden at all.Fuckwit.>they still sell and still have a good brand imageNot for long.People buy high-end sports cars for the visceral experience of a great sounding ICE and dynamic handling.They can only be duped for so long with canned engine noises piping through the speakers and electronic suspension crutches to mask the weight.You're definitely part of the EU damage control raid. Holy shit.
>>60233071The status quo of the last 20 years doesn't work, must do something near the point of no return. Im glad our presodent is an evonomics major instead of a lawyer.
>>60233090Yeah but this will totally OWN the AMERICANS, JAAAA DOUCHELAND!!!1!!!
>>60244508>having to spread your resources across two completely different design, development and production lines is totally not a massive burden at all.This confuses the murikan
>>60233090Bro, they bombed a German pipeline just to fuck with the Russians, nobody give a shit about what happens to Germany. The Germans will be clapping and cheering regardless of what happens to them.
>>60248167The US bombed NS2, on a Tucker Carlson interview one of their top shitters admited it.This is the chinese century, get fucked.What europeans should be doing now is finding a culture bound between us kinda like aesthethics, we are about to enter the cyberpunk-happygo route.Being the US vassal made european culture vapid and hollow, this a renascence in a brightful way, don't you see how all europeans are completely happy to see the US go bust? We hate them, always did.China represents hope, even if it's not I don't intend for you to understand but it's a scapegoat on a dark sea. Pic extremely fucking related. Y2k.
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