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>>60257417I believe that we will win
Smartphone and cumputers are now suddenly tariff exempted. What a pathetic little cuck. Now you understand how his entourage bought yesterday as they already knew.Now, what is the implication of USA losing the tariff wars, as that's exactly what is happening, and folding to China over a mere 0.5% higher bonds yield.How the mighty has fallen, holy shit.
>>60257444I was watching pt/call volume yesterday on spy and it was dipping from 1.4 to 0.7 kek I knew it was insiders
art of the deal
>>60257444whats the next exemption going to be?
>>60257476With such a pathetic cuck at the helm, only the hello-kitty phonestraps will stay tariffed. GREAT victory and LIBERATION DAY btw. Also my friends and the ones working in my government are now richer than ever, MAGA.
Trump won... The who's a bigger cuck competition.
>>60257476I'm guessing steel and precious minerals, Trump is going to start wars to save his image since he failed at fixing the economy.
So is it officially over now that Zion Don cucked or can the bear market still continue?
FUCK I SHOULD HAVE HOLDED MY NVDA STOCKS FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>60257460You don't need to be insider to know that Trump will cuck out. Entire market this week refused to dump because people with actual volumes that matter predicted this.
>>60257505Everyone is going to pump in anticipation of Trump dropping more tariffs, why would they sell?
>>60257521You have problems
>>60257417Cash bros i don't feel so well.
>>60257523Idk i still expect him to do something retarded so it might be risky to buy
could've been worse. all he really did was going around begging for money. at least he doesn't take the moral highground and meme people into nuking the shit out of rando sand peoeple and print yourself into a sinkhole.
>>60257521Idiot
>>60257505It’ll giga pump off the hopium. It literally pumped Monday because of a fake tweet, and then Friday off remarks that Fed will literally choose runaway inflation and QE over letting bond market collapse. But long-term? We are so, so fucked. Recession is like 70% likely by my guess since trust in the USA has been completely eroded. The macro indicators have always been negative since this time last year.
>>60257534We got scammed hard.
>>60257538triggered churka mutt
Well my tza calls are fucked
>>60257537He is sabre rattling for war in Yemen and Iran.
>>60257554he cucked on the tariffshe'll cuck on wars too (maybe)
>>60257544>Posting murder and rape on a blue boardKys
How is crypto reacting?
>>60257565Small pump it will probably fade soon. Im pretty sure crypto is 100% reliant in sp500 so theyll wait to see how the market reacts
>>60257560Israel didn't want the tarrifs. They do want war, so we're going.
So the "art of the deal" is going full retard with tariffs, thinking the whole world will line up to "kiss your ass" begging for mercy, and then chickening out on everything, after making yourself look like a fool and alienating all your trade partners who now see you as a retarded bully.Nice job Donnie, nice job.
Is the market still screwed? People say international trust is gone now and no one wants to invest in US markets. What other equities are there though? Europe doesn’t innovate and it’s difficult for foreigners to actually own Chinese stocks.
So on open Market will pump because of new exemption right?
>>60257600It's gonna pump hard on Monday because of the news
>>60257627Yes, its gonna pump and then revert before close
>>60257600You literally named the only two economies literally worth a shit (besides mayyyyve Japan). China and EU gonna go their own way and invest in themselves and their quasi-colonial interests.
>>60257590Art of the U-turn.
>china continues manufacturing high value components>America moves down the value chain making shirts for $3 an hour... is Trump's ideal vision of america just India?
>>60257600It's probably going to pump in the short term as Trump keeps backpedaling on tariffs.Trust erosion is definitely a concern in the mid/long term though
>>60257632Yes the crabbing.
How bullish is trump cucking for baba? Is it going to megapump on monday?
>>60257590the alternatives is to print or go to warneither solves the growing debt issuehe was soft during the previous administrationasking countries to share the burden of amerilard's own debt mistakes (2008 print + trillion dollar wars)obviously no country is going to bite, they think (correctly) that's US's own problemso now he's going harderimperfect as doge slashing isimperfect as his shakedown isit's the only plays he can do without going full schizo
My only cope is that this clown market does the opposite of what everyone thinks will happen, so good bullish news about exemptions actually means we will go down
I got rekt on option spreads on chinese stocks, theyre like 30%Bought yinn and bidu callsI need to go back to paper trading before I completely wipe my portfolio
>>60257590
>>60257667How about you know. Taxing the billionaires.
>>60257551Tesla may still dump on monday, regardless of what spy does. The price action has been looking very weak lately. The news about the eu dropping tariffs for chinese cars has hit the bulls hard. Many of the permabulls have realized that the company is completely, permanently screwed in europe and china.
>>60257678Does it matter if a bilionaire has 30 or 15 billions? After a certain amount of money it stops mattering, Im pretty sure theyre investing in the economy anyway. Idk I might be wrong but if someone is a bilionaire I think theyre using most of the money to stimulate the economy
>>60257678that's the obvious solution but if it were easy then it would've been done long ago. my thought has always been that capital/industry flight risk is too real to ever touch the subject.
I was expecting a black Monday but Trumptard caved. fucking orange man can't even stick to his own shtick.
>>60257667I think this tariff shitshow qualifies as "going full schizo" tbqhwyfam.He just made the situation worse with his antics, now there's also an international trust problem to deal with. If there's one thing investors dislike is uncertainty, and Trump's erratic behavior adds to that.
>>60257655The more you read about this, the more retarded it becomes. It's incredible. A point could be made bringing back hightech manufacturing, but now it'll just be about sewing Tshirts.What the fucking fuck lmao.
>>60257678This only works if you close up loopholes, which isn't going to happen as long as those same loopholes benefit politicians.
I was expecting a restest of the low to buy now I'm risk either being locked out of this rally or being made a bitch in the bull trap.
Why didn't you just buy the generational low, anons? Even vix has been giving buy signals all week.
>>60257698Where are they going to go? Dubai? There's a reason why despite MBS's best efforts that place is still a vacation home for rich assholes.
>>60257720china
>>60257678We already do
>>60257724>where the ccp can just disappear billionaires getting too uppity>or do whatever MK ultra shit they did to Jack MaLol
>>60257674"I was only pretending to be retarded" doesn't work on the world stage
Do I swap all my dollaroonies for euromarks?
>>60257741Too late
I see you are having fun. Don't mind me.Just sitting around and sipping on my water while you work out a solution that should have been ready to use MONTHS ago.
>>60257551am now a TZA and TECS bagholder :(
BTC is mooning. Monday's gonna be a good day.
>>60257678taxing the billionaire is a dumb meme to rout uneducated/partisan democratic voters.billionaires are cucks who are only worth billion on paper. if they start selling all of their stocks they might not even get half their supposed net worth.the "billionaires" are already get taxed when they're vested the stocks or when their stock options are excercised at maximum marginal rate (Musk had to sell TSLA shares pay his tax multiple times) so saying them never get taxed is a deliberate misinformation>>60257720imagine Japan get reinvested. or Europe get Silicon Valley level of VC funding.China and Russia are so cheap but have too much geopolitical risk to invest.
>>60257754Japan will never get reinvestment because they're gearing up to ban foreigners from owning capital there
>>60257741>>60257743do y’all expect the Euro to USD futures to go back down, or will no one give a shit and the bond selloff continues
>>60257736they might not want to live there sure, but they 10000000000% want their industry thereand if they do leave now you have every rust belt governor making phonecalls crying about tax incentives because hillbilly bob's tincan factory is packing up please save our jobs!!!! and your approval rate plummets as hillybob turns against your administration and so on and on
I'm a retarded wagie, when you're selling a stock when the prices rise, who buys it? Why do they buy stocks when the prices rise? What if no one buys the stock you're trying to sell?
>>60257743This shit is just going to make foreign investors more skittish.
>>60257746Well fortunatley my calls are dated for 7/18 but I was a retard who assumed he wouldn't cuck out this quick. Next drop I'm getting the fuck out entirely. Worst case I'm out 20k which isn't the end of the world for me but not pleasant.
>>60257779there’s usually someone on the other end thinking it’ll keep going up. that’s the buyer.
>>60257779Someone buys it who thinks it's going to go even higher.Trying ro sell at prices no one wants to pay just sells to no one
THE REAL PANICAN IS IN THE WHITE HOUSEKEKUCKEDKWAB
>>60257779There’s always at least one buyer, otherwise it’s worthless. Theoretically if every share was bought and held, a company would just issue more or do a split (the latter is the safer and preferred option) so that the whales can take some profits and the little guy can hold a few shares.It’s when you have to keep lowering the price to find a buyer though that causes the stock to go down. And if everyone is selling, potential buyers can name their price because supply of open sell orders is very high.
So the tariffs are going to be worn down into nothingness. No External Revenue Service. No jobs moved back into America. What did we gain from this exactly?
PUMP
>>60257810>No jobs moved back into AmericaThis narrative was dead in 48 hours after they said they weren't bringing back manual labor, they just want domestic automatic factories fucking lmaoLiteral pipe dream
I'm going ALL IN on open next week lmao
Man, NOT EVEN a phone call, and already folding like a pathetic cuck. At this point I fully believe he reads NTR before going to sleep.
>>60257813I have 20 grand on SOXL what does this mean for me?
>>60257824He didnt exactly fold theres still a 10% tariff on everything
>>60257810Gained nothing, but his narcissistic pipe dream of having world leaders lining up to kiss his ass made trust in the US plummet, which will keep having an impact. And trust is extremely hard to regain.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes and all that
Orange man did his shtick during his first term. Xi Jinping knows his game. Orange man plays the same game during his second term thinking that Xi is dumb enough to fall for it. Fucking retard.I was promised a bear market, not a V shape but orange man caved. Now I have to jump in Sunday evening in a low liquidity overnight trading session.
>>60257810The realization that the world order isnt designed around stealing from the US but for its own benefitAtleast I hope so
>>60257810>What did we gain from this exactly?125% tariffs on the US from China, lmao. Now, the 125% are still in effect for everything. Xi has yet to fold. What can Trump give Xi in exchange for folding even more? There's one that already had the upper hand Friday, and has even more of an upper hand right now.Art of the deal.
>>60257834this but 20k SOXLslurrrpppp SISTAS??
My puts... Monday im dead bros
>>60257810it was a gambit to address the untenable growing debt problem. problem is he's pretty shit at gambling.doesn't help he surrounds himself with equally lousy conmen and sycophants who contort themselves to reverse engineer justifications for his 4d chess moves. instead of, you know, army of actual advisors, economists, game theory experts and political brains. at least the world doesn't think he's completely retarded (yet). but that'll change if he starts a war.
>>60257813Glad I stayed out of it yesterday. What a giga cuck. Still skeptical about going into the burger market again, I think I'll put my lot in with Europe, the leafs, Japs and chinks.
Just heard on a podcast that apparently 1/3 of people who panic sell end up giving up on investing permanently
it was so fucking obvious that he was gonna flinch like a pussy lmao, easiest NVDA slurp ever
>>60257813huge W for the LQBT community, Bessent saves the day again by whispering trvkes to Trump (he's a Shadow Government Patriot)>>60257824KEEEKKK that's BULLish, a geat time to buy!
So the market is gonna pump 10% again on Monday?
gm
If Trump didn't pussy out, people would've had more respect for him. But he keep folding like a fucking wet noodle Xi eats every night before diddling his CCP state sponsored prostitute.
>>60257820It was always just a larp to get better deals. It's so much easier than actually bringing back industry, surly that would takes years? If the smaller tarrifs stick some industry might go back so that's still a win in his eyes.
>>60257810We gained nothing. But at least we won't lose everything.Sometimes you have to pull back from a bad decision. Sometimes you have to sell while in the red. It's better to salvage what you still have than ride the tiger down to 0.
>>60257678>Taxing the billionaires.You can tax 100% of their wealth and you wouldn't even touch the deficit, let alone the debt.
>>60257872>If Trump didn't pussy out, people would've had more respect for him.Yeah and then the price shock would hit and force him to walk-back his shit in shameBy doing it now he's cutting his loss
>Trump turned himself into the avatar of the markets>now he can dump or pump whenever he wants to>countries litterally beg to come negotiate>industries beg for exemptions>China copes with a 125%tariff on the absolute nothing that US exports to them>all of which is farming stuff which has heavy subsidies that make tariff worthless in the first place>"H-HERE IS HOW TRUMP IS LOSING!"Trump did the same trick in his first term and it won again. Now his decisions are what drives the markets, nothing else. If anything this has made him the DE facto world ruler for however long he wants, which will be short because Trump just wants" deals". I don't get how you can cope that China is in any strong position when they are right now having to cuck out their own car dumping scheme with the EU, and EU states like Hungary (with voting power) can still can the entire thing.
>>60257810Man fuck working those jobs you wouldn’t want those in the first place
>>60257698>that's the obvious solutionImagine being this fucking braindead.>dude this drop in this tiny bucket is going to fill it up
>>60257678>TAXING BILLIONAIRESdoesn't and has never worked. Billionaires don't live on their salary, they live on loans and debt. If you tax those you will disproportionately affect the poor
>>60257883>Look at how hard I can dump the market!
>>60257865panican hereI'm not giving up on investing, but I'm definitely giving up on tradingfrom here on out I'm just gonna contribute the maximum to my 403b (all in VIGAX) and not touch anything
>>60257883Euro markets have done nothing but pump on every decision he made, they don't care what he does since they can't lose.
>>60257776highly depends on who gets thrown out, because people who know the narrative have a gut feeling who's really to blame. Depending on that, we'd expect a pump or a dump, and if Trump wants to enrich his friends, he's going to go for the one that gives him the pump.>>60257810Institutional mistrust.
>>60257907I'm getting back INTO trading... I got fucked by trying to buy & hold with leveraged ETFs. I should have been managing those positions closer
>>60257883delusional post is delusional
>>60257901Yes. And it is to get countries to rush to negotiate. After they showed that the tariffs, which were artificial and had no math behind them, where reduced to a 10% standard. Now there is negotiating for minor changes that will be seen as big amazing deals to investors who are desperate for any good news.
>>60257879This is what I was thinking about by myself some time ago. As in the rich aren't so rich if their stocks got liquidated for one reason or another in a big selling off event, and that's why true wealth of a nation is not really about how the rich.
>>60257872He did the right thing that’s what matters
My SOXS is fucked isn't it. Where are those specific semiconductor tariffs he promised?
>>60257920*how the rich are doing on the surface level when observed sorry I'm ESL
>>60257921He did the wrong thing for me, I sold the bottom
>>60257930Me too fren
>>60257912Thats just a bold faced lie, every market has been plummeting from the tariffs, nikkei the worst. Chinese markets have needed to had government bailouts to prevent even worse dumping. Trump meanwhile just needed to tweet and the markets shot up to 40k despite litterally no impact of the tariffs being felt.
>>60257930Same. This shit is so manipulated. Yesterday's pump was insiders loading up, now it's obvious. The only ones winning are trump's lackeys who are in on his next move. Might as well not play this game.
lets be real there's not much happening at these negotiations. it's all just p-p-p-please buy our treasuries, preferably in 30/50/100yrs terms!!!! we're going broke!!!!!! toss me a lifeline here bud!!!no wonder why there's 0 deals finalized kektariff was just an illusory stick to get countries to bite
>>60257928Negotiated out of existence. Get ready for Taiwan, Japan, SK, India, and Vietnam to get sweetheart deals
>>60257950dawg we fucked over japan who literally have a dying currency, japan loves the american governmentthey responded by saying fuck you to us by making our bond market explode
>>60257915>buying and holding leveraged ETFsWhat did you expect
>>60257600the dollar is going to zero, take out a loan and buy gold
>>60257476Probably toilet roll. It's about to get expensive for Americans.
>>60257950>NOTHING IS BEING NEGOTIATEDokay then, buy bear shares and post portfolio
>>60257915>>60257958My broker has a warning that they aren't supposed to be held overnight, does your not?
>>60257877Bruh, it's losing EVERYTHINGFolding here like a pathetic cuck over 0.5% rate increase is the green GO to grab Taiwan.
>>60257967nothing is being negotiated you retard, he'll gonna fold back all of it's and it'll just gonna be a minuscule 10% tariff on everyone.
>>60257982You are trusting /biz/ to not actually listed to good brokers, but to listen to brokers at all. Those 2x bear/bull shares are for day traders or institutions to quickly make a buck
>>60257600I'm just glad so many magatards posted>We voted for thisIt won't be forgotten, even under new leadership.America has damaged itself for a VERY long time.
>>60257985Global 10% is fairly large, he wont even get that
>A gay pink house owning ex-Dem Soros hedge funder is going to literally have to save us from ruin because Orange Nigger's retarded son found a book on Amazon by some retarded crackpot and his gay persona
>>60257678You think billionaires are sitting on giant money bags full of dollars?
>>60257841>And trust is extremely hard to regain.With politics it's just how much you can bribe the media and politicians. No one even listens to facts these days. They just call each other nazis.
>>60257985>minuscule 10% tariff>minusculeSorry to tell you this anon, but you're retarded.That's going to disappear soon too, Donnie went all-in with a really bad hand
>>60257985Bro, I know you have like, ignorance on how tariff's work but 10% is just ENORMOUSMost tariffs are like fucking 1-2%Biden's tariff on lumber or some shit was literally a 2% tariff
>>60257985>N-NOTHING IS BEING NEGOTIATED!https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-us-finalise-terms-reference-first-phase-trade-deal-says-india-trade-2025-04-11/And that's just one. Just because your plan to hold 2x bears completely failed doesn't mean you have to lie about reality
>>6025798510% isn’t miniscule and it will be walked back but 0:0 is also never happening now
china grabbing taiwan is the biggest hoax talking point btw. they are so economically and culturally interlinked that it'd be like US going to war with California or some dumb shit lmao. it's not happening. china ain't gonna ruin their global reputation and inherit a smolding useless rock.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-exempts-phones-computers-chips-124707368.htmlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA, KEKED OUT AGAIN
>>60258023Anon you are extremely late
>>60258018ofcourse the vance country is first in line lol
>>60258022Broski do you forget China just decided one day to walk into Hong Kong with tanks and take over its sovereignty
>>60258030that way I can laugh longer
>>60258004I see your point, but there are still clear signs of increasing anti-american sentiment, especially in Europe.And Trump's recent antics don't exacty make the US look like a reliable and appealing place for foreing investors.Backpedaling on this tariff bullshit is better than not doing it, but some damage has already been done. We'll just have to wait and see the extent of it.
>>60258022I felt very uncomfortable reading this post.
>>60257883>word saladGone so full circle MAGA that he turned ESL.
>>60258018>extracting value from india>whose people's entire existence is being slippery con artists and scammersBIGGEST LAFF this morning. modi will shout from the himalayas for Xi to meet the moment US gets uppity hahahhahahahahaha. and if Xi gets uppity he'll go have sex with MACRON lmao. man you really know nothing about the world.
>>60258022i thought that about russia and ukraine, but here we are
plqn trvsters on /bant/ will be feasting on monday
>>60258000and just think, it could all be for nothing if trump decides to do something immensely stupid like defund the FDIC, fire powell, and/or default on debt
I thought the whole plan was to collapse the economy on purpose?
So how's his fan base gonna spin this one?
How is bobos anus going to be after Monday?
>>60258022checked>>60258061i setup a sol long from here. monday will be interesting
>>60258022bro even the biggest libtards in Shanghai have wet dreams about the PLA goose stepping in Taipei, they really want that rock.
>>60258067Yeah okay, you can't exactly do that when you have to refinance 10 trillion dollars in debt or the country becomes fucking insolventTheir plan was>Downturn the stock market>make people run to the treasuries to help finance the debt and lower interestGuess what happens when you fuck with the GLOBAL market>Downturn the stock market>countries pissed at your fucking their stock market and multinational corporations>They dump their bonds in retaliation>Now you have a economic collapse AND a liquidity crisis
>>60258072Trump told them to buy wednesday morning. Wealth transfer from panicans to his trve believers
>>60258022>US going to war with CaliforniaSounds realistic in current political climate.
>crypto was created to be decentralized and not affected by institutions>pumps or crashed based on economic dataKek
Anybody here have a counter of how many times Trump rowed back on everything?
What is the "invisible hand of the market" /smg/ ?
>>60258091>Anybody here have a counter of how many times Trump rowed back on everything?Yeah, it's exactly 0.
>>60258101Check your anal cavity.
>>60258091Purely on tariffs it's twiceIf you count all his political decision, that's a lot longer
is it even worth buying SOXL Sunday night? I swear that shit pumps after-hours, dumps in the morning then pumps during the day.
>>60257860>at least the world doesn't think he's completely retarded (yet).You're kidding right?
>>60258129I see his point, the world definitely think he's retarded, but him pussying out every week show atleast a hint of common sense
>>60257859Maybe something retarded will happen and it'll dump because of good news.
>>60258141My state media has pretty much gone from the usual gay opinion of "Trump le bad" to "Holy shit we can't trust the US anymore".Basically it would be better if they just held the prior opinion, the latter is much worse.
>>60258129I meant to say *world leaders. commonfolk like us think he's retarded. world leaders think he's a punk but at least he hasn't started a war and fucked up some random country over some contrived moral reason.
> do nothing> winHow is Xi able to get away with it every time?
The real issue is people will not take ANYTHING that trump does seriously because he can decide to do a 180 at any point.It doesn't matter if it's good or bad news because he has shown that no only will he do extreme policy changes on a whim he will also fully reverse them on a whim and then do it again all over.Forget investing how the fuck is anybody suppose to run a business under such conditions? Hell even literal turd world countries have more stable governments and policies than this shit
>>60257958>>60257982I was expecting it to keep going up!And yes, I get warnings from my broker. I had to agree to a thing that says basically "I know these are risky and I am basically an idiot for investing in them" and it shows me a reminder every time I buy one that I agreed with them that I am an idiot.But it's the only way to feel alive...(other than options but I don't have the time for that)
>>60258177Cope, it's gonna pump like a motherfucker shota banging the neighbours milf. It's gonna MOOOOOON
>tariffs exemptions>dogecoin up 6%Make it make sense
>125% tariffs on China >immediately cucks on electronics and chips >will imminently cuck on other high value-add goods >China is forced to move up the value chain and become an exclusively high-end manufacturer >garment, textile, and cheap Temu garbage manufacturing returns to the US >America is Great Again
>>60258202we dont have the raw materials to make cheap plastic garbage
>>60257417Donald Cuck folded lmao. All that for what? A weakened dollar and more expensive shit. We're not even gonna get the low paying factory jobs hahahahaha
I got banned for three fucking days for a thread about Trump and his bullshit banning China from the markets. I just want to tell the Jannies one thing: NEVER BE A WOMAN, KILL YOURSELF.
>>60258067Wall street >>>> Main street
>>60258143Good news is bad news?Im so scared brose
>>60258162I think world leaders are far more convinced he's a literal retard than common folk. With regular people all it takes for them to go back to thinking he's a genius is the media telling them so.>>60258195>Cope, it's gonna pumpthe fuck does that have to do with my post? I'm talking about long term in the US not how hard the market will swing on monday
>>60258197>crypto having any basis in realityCmon son, you telling me one digital coin being worth 80k makes sense to you?
>>60258202>garment, textile, and cheap Temu garbage china already friendshored those to neighboring countries and it's propping them up bigly. it shan't be returning :^)there's a reason why there's so much emphasis on targeting those asian countries. they hate friendshoring when enemies do it!
>>60258156British media can barely hold back laughter when discussing trump.
>AMERICAN BONDS ARE ALMOST 5%!!!>Ignore Chink 5Y bonds skyrocketingLol, lmao
>>60258214Market pumping tomorrow IS long term sentiment
>>60257417So Trump cucked against ChingChong?
>>60258222It swings based on how the economy is doing which is funny because it has no p/e ratio or any other indicator. Its clear that blackrock and vanguard own the crypto casino
>>60258193so yeah, you aren't investing, you're gamblingnothing wrong with that, it's your money. but call it what it is
>>60258232Does China have the same debt problem?
>>60258235Yes
>>60258232now compare China and US on debt to GDP ratio
>>60258204I see. Deeply concerning.
>>60258197crypto just follows the market now it's totally dependent
>>60258242>>60258250Chinese shadow debt is astronomical, yes. They hide their national debt behind the provinces. I assume you already know how their strategy works, but they have significant debts that they have no real answer to at the moment.
>>60258257This completely defeats the point of crypto, might aswell invest in companies
>>60258242China's national debt is around 35% to 50% of the US national debt, depends on whether you want to just convert their debt in yuan to dollars or adjust for PPP. Their debt to GDP ratio is around 85%(a bit lower last I checked) while the US is at over 120%. So... not great, not terrible.
>>60258250China has more than twice our debt to GDP ratio
>>60258241I prefer to call it "Speculating"
>>60258261>shadow debt>>>/x/I'm no fan of China but there's just no comparison to the US debt situation.And China owns a lot of that debt. As does the EU.
>>60258089why wouldn't crypto follow the market, it is 100% speculation
>>60258232bro?
>>60258250>>60258242China's issue is it has to deal with a lot of debt on its selfAmerica's issue is a lot of its debt is owned by foreign countries we pay interest to
The west has fallen
What do white pig amerikkkans do when they realize that everyone in the global south is ready and willing to starve and strife just to see their bloodthirsty imperialist regime die horribly? Like how do we counter that? Honestly
>>60258287>China's issue is it has to deal with a lot of debt on its selfSo no debt, because the CCP can pretty much just handwave it away if they so wish?
>>60258204Plastic is made from oil, which we have plenty ofWhat holds the US back from building and running new factories is regulation: mostly environmental but also worker safety. And I'm not saying we should get rid of those regulations, because I don't want to live near a polluting factory or for people to get killed or maimed making sneakers... but it shows how little respect the Chinese have for human life or quality of life. They treat themselves as expendable.
>>60258264>>60258274I called it "Shadow Debt" because the CCCP doesn't publish these numbers, but you can see the borrowing of money and build a picture of how bad it is.Chinese provinces only receive revenue from land leases, but have to pay into the National system. Most provinces cannot afford to pay their tribute required by the Party, so they borrow money to pay the national government. Provinces aren't allowed to directly borrow money, however, so they create shell companies that borrow money for the provinces instead. The IMF estimates this shadow debt to be $12.58 trillion (as of 2023), even though China's NATIONAL debt appears like it is only $2.4 trillion.
>>60258232>>60258308Where are these "skyrocketing" bonds you're talking about?
Up to 26 now - too late to jump in?
So...what happened to the manufacture and Jobs angle?
I can’t believe this disgusting orange cuckold folded again. Amazing. China has truly won
>>60258308But I accounted for that. If we were using the "official "numbers then China's debt to GDP would be like 13,5%, not the 80% I quoted.
>>60258317>>60258281I was mislead by a fake bond chart, but the debt issue is still an issue>cope, sneed, you were wrong, hurr durrNot an argument against their debt issue. >>60258299China could do that, but then the money disappears and the lenders have less to lend out.
so is it time to dca back in or no
>>60258326that’s like monday’s narrative were so much further now.. next week will be photo op’s with EU leaders and masisve W tradedeals!!!
>>60258329Yes, but also look how it has been growing lately; while US debt is ramping up, Chinese debt is ballooning out far faster.
>>60258331>I was misleadI think you just lied and thought nobody was going to actually check.
>The tariff reprieve may prove fleeting. The exclusions stem from the initial order, which prevented extra tariffs on certain sectors from stacking cumulatively on top of the country-wide rates. The exclusion is a sign that the products may soon be subject to a different tariff, albeit almost surely a lower one for China. One such exclusion was for semiconductors, to which Trump has regularly pledged to apply a specific tariff. He hasn’t yet done so but the latest exclusions appear to correspond with that exemption. Trump’s sectoral tariffs have so far been set at 25%, though it’s not clear what his rate on semiconductors and related products would be.
>>60258326It was propaganda for the MIGA cultists. Turns out this really was a huge pump and dump for his buddies all along.
Im pretty sure trump is coordinating these pumps and dumps with blackrock
>>60258360Really? That would be great!
How do we convince Xi to do something for once so that he loses?
>>60258340No, I was mislead by a chart showing a spike to more than 50% and didn't look before I posted, it's my fault.
>>60258339It's a risky play for sure but they can ultimately stop debt accumulation much faster than the US could. As a de-factor dictatorship they can just stop a bunch of government programs or hike taxes without having to worry about the election implications. Though this would still hurt their long-term economic growth.However this whole trade war is definitely not helping. The EU might come out much better from it all because its bureaucracy slows it down to the point that they're not taking any rash actions unlike the US and China, who both seem to be speedrunning their own destruction.
>>60258370He learned his lesson in Hong Kong
>>60257718>Why didn't you just buyAlready invested, and the potential value of profit wasn't worth the riskAlso, earnings season is still on, and it's not like the US economy is in such a state where it can handle a lot of bullshit
>>60257444>>60257492>cuckIt's like you guys didn't pay attention at during the 2016-2020 administration. This is what he does. Start with a whole lot of bluster that looks sort of sincere, walks it back. This is why I said was buying all the way down. It's going to be weeks of these reductions and removals and pauses.
By end of friday he is gonna come with a "deal" and end this shitshowAnd probably just cuck mexico again or something instead.
>>60258370It’s so over for the west if they need these copes to protect their minds. China won.
>>60257600>trustTrade doesn't really function on that.
Is 155k (115k brokerage, 40k Roth) in mining companies enough? I have another 90k sitting in USD savings, but am worried miners might crash in a recession, like they did in 2008 before recovering in 2009.
>China does nothing>winshow do they get away with it
>>60258384I would only push back and remind you that there has been growing internal resistance to the CCCP bullshit, like when people stopped paying mortgages on properties that hadn't been built yet. I feel they are still in a worse position than America, even if we are not in a great position.
>>60258397Yes, cuck. That's no art of the deal. You can act like this as a businessman, not as a statesperson. Sorry, but it do be like that.China hopefully halts all exports of electronics until all tariffs are gone AND trump says "sorry"
>>60258425Sun Tzu: "Never interrupt your opponent while he is in the middle of making a mistake."
>>60258419Do you have a mix of juniors, mid level, and seniors? What kinda mines?
>>60258370everytime when there's a """"foreign intervention"""" *winkwink* they learn, adapt, overcome. CHIPS act? they hit back with deepseek. people in the west need to understand that you can't contain them anymore. external pressures are largely inconsequential to them and only serve to rally their population.just let them die to their domestic situations.
>>60258416But real investments in industry and such do.Uncertainty on costs is a big no-no. An erratic potus capable of changing his mind more often than his underwear is not going to help that.
>>60258441>That's no art of the deal.I never said it was. I am telling you how to trade when Trump does this. He is consistent in his chaos.
>>60258419bro why? do you have deep enough knowledge of the mining industry to make judgement calls on individual or at least sectoral winners and losers? if not, why are you not just all in on SPY?
Anons please help i'm new, is this a good portfolio? I am planning to just passively invest in this for the next 35 years. What could i do better?S&P 500 UCITS ETF USD Acc – 50%Euro STOXX 50 UCITS ETF DR EUR (D) Acc – 20%MSCI EM IMI UCITS ETF USD Acc – 10%MSCI Japan IMI UCITS ETF USD (Acc) – 5%MSCI Pacific ex Japan ESG Filtered Min TE – 5%Inflation Linked Govt Bond UCITS ETF – 10%
>>60258452>can't contain them>Deepseek was just a stolen old model of chatgptFuck off, chink.
>>60257476I gather industrial items and machines also medical precousers
NVDA 125 by Monday's close
>>60258462desu i'm an absolute retard that dumps money into mining juniors and had anywhere from 10x to 30x gainsI normally aim for mid level or seniors tho
>>60258456He's getting assblasted in the chaos he created. Backfired and now he caves in like a bitch. That's the only reason he stopped. He would not have stopped if he didn't have to.
>>60258478what a pathetic cope
>>60258477overweight US equities imo. but yeah it's good
>>60258514to be fair, i think a lot of people underestimate the checks other countries have on other countries in the world, we're literally all beholden to each otherthe world sanctioned Russia into a pariah stateorange tard went full retard and the Japs stepped in and hey nigger, im nuking your treasuries if you dont calm the hell downwe all have a lot of ways to really fuck one another over if needs be
>>60258514And now he does it again>Slap +100% tariffs on chyna>NOOOOOOO NOT MY APPLERINO>exempts computers etc.lmao, in not even 3 days again. He simply has no leverage and when he does he just overshoots so hard, it is insulting. When I trade and somebody tries to start the trade with insanely low prices to then find a spot in the middle I'll tell him to fuck right off, cause I'm not gonna play this game of anchoring. He does it on the opposite.
I wonder if all the anons that talked about -15% futures earlier in the week are okay. A face ripping rally on monday would hurt a lot of bears.
>>60258552>hurting bears is bad
>>60258538>the world sanctioned Russia into a pariah stateThe Ruskies are doing 100x better economically than anyone predicted though. Experts were predicting mad max cannibal hellscape by end of 2022 >>60258552i got pretty lucky and switched to bullish on thursday. i think we might still go lower though in a couple of months since the disruption could cause a mild recession
>>60258581eh, maybe their top end is doing well, their actual people are in a really dire state
>>60258538>the world sanctioned Russia into a pariah stateSanctioned so hard that their economy is still intact and trade with the West continues trough third countries. They even continue to trade oil and gas by the sea.Same would happen with China tariffs anyway. You cannot fully embargo a modern country unless they do so on themselves.
>You have reached the office of the President of the People's Republic of China, leave a message after the beep*beep*Yeah Xi, its me Trump, you don't even need to call me, i'll just cuck on all positions, it would still be cool if you called though, stop by Mar a Lago, play some golf, we can win bigly, see ya, bye bye
>>60258552NMP
>>60258538I think two element that are heavily underestimated is the fact EU follow US sanctions, when Iran and Russia get sanctionned it's a giant block, if the EU decided to withdraw US influence would crater overnight2nd element are soft-boycotts, I expect americans good and service to take a hit in the coming months because of how unpopular their policies are>>60258581>The Ruskies are doing 100x better economically than anyone predicted though.They're not, the russians are in deep shit but coping that they "handle it"
>>60258603>cannot fully embargo modern countries You can if embargo their largest markets like Cuba
>>60258590>their actual people are in a really dire stateYou should stop listen to literally propaganda sources and ask them directly. On /bant/ for example. They are doing just fine.
>>60258498it will open 125
>>60258590>their actual people are in a really dire stateThat's true, unfortunately. It doesn't make any difference if regular russians are suffering when it's the elites that must take the hit for anything to change.
>>60258621I measure russian economics by how much russian porn suddenly floods onto the internet, and theres a lot recently
>>60258590>their actual people are in a really dire stateyeah but thats just normal, as long as the ppl in moscow and st petersburg are doing ok russia will do fine
A constant easing of tarrifs. Next week we are going to see more easing. Don't care about trump, if he's a cuck or if this is 5d chess, I'm bullish and I want to post in the bobo gets rektd in the anus thread. Let's go lads, we are pumping Monday ding ding ding
>>60258608kek
>>60258621I can tell you as a russian that people aren't doing great at all. Sure, it's not like they're starving but an average russian can't easily allow travelling to Turkey or Egypt, for example.
>>60258648*afford travelling
>>60258212This is how basically all of covid was so why not?
>>60258613>the russians are in deep shit10% inflation is bad but it's like regular South American bad, not Venezuela or Argentina bad. Their main domestic economic issue right now is that house prices are too high because of the newly loaded contract soldiers coming back with their blood money and buying real estate.
>>60258648>but an average russian can't easily allow travelling to Turkey or EgyptWhy the fuck would you go to those shitholes?>I can tell you as a russianWhat are you doing here btw, you can't trade stocks.
>>60257998magatards recently found out about stocks after being shilled propaganda about blackrock. Now they think they are some sort of experts.
>>60258648Do russian normies really want to travel to muslim shitholes? I'd pay to not have to visit egypt.
>>60258621Russia has a gdp comparable to Italy.With more than 2x people and 1000x natural resources.It's a corrupt kleptocratic shithole.
>>60258661>Why the fuck would you go to those shitholes?These two countries were the most popular destinations before shit hit the fan. They're the most affordable ones too, so it's a good example.>What are you doing here btw, you can't trade stocks.Thankfully, I was skilled enough to escape to greener pastures :^)
>>60258671I think russia would be very good if they banned alcohol. It turns you into a subhuman
If I manage to hit my trading goals this year, I'm treating myself to pic related. Seems like so much fun. Maybe I can find a qt asian gf on the cruise too.
How do you develop a good trading strategy? Is it just experience?
>>60258678rural Russia would literally implode, drunk is the only way to cope with that existence
Anyone got some bear hopium for Monday?
>>60258692realized losses
Would be funny if apple has to eat the 20% tariff because they can't pass it onto consumers because "they got an exemption"
>>60258696Yeahhttps://x.com/DeItaone/status/1911094518096572474
>Credit markets are freezing. >The weekly share of home mortgage refinance applications that were rejected was the highest since October 2008.
>>60258696Esp. with the china deal, no-one but america is gonna take Tesla's shit.
just woke up, did Trump fold like a bitch again? how are republicans spinning this one as a win?
>>60258678rampant alcoholism is a symptom, not a cause
>>60258699So I need to learn by mistakes
I missed the fucking bottom again. I wish I could kill Mike Maloney, David Levenson, Van Metre and all these fucking retarded doom and gloomers taht always give me second thoghts about going big on these retarded dumps. The markets will never crash again. Retarded ass boomers think a dotcom or GFC crash can ever happen again. They will baghold cash forever. They are calling for 50% crashes, sub 10k BTC etc. Fucking doom and gloomer retards. Die fucking yapping fucking high IQ non-money making bitchass retards. Hold more cash retards hold more cash and yap on social media dumbass. Fucking die fucking faggots. Fucking bitchass nigga retard. Fucking retarded mongoloids. Fucking aspies fucking retards. Kill em all.
>>60258703>chipsHe's going to tariff Taiwan >pharmaceuticalsWhat exactly the chemicals from China or the cough syrup from India>Steel Already at 25
>>60258705OMG TRUMP DO SOMETHING, TELL THE BANKS TO REFINANCE. NO THAT IS NOT COMMUNISM
>>60258710They're claiming that they'll introduce a specific tariff on, more or less, electronic goods.
>>60258721Taiwan has tariffs exemption for chips too; in other words, he literally folded on every single thing that actually mattered with 0 concessions or deals reached.
>>60258717>he didn't buy the dipngmi
>>60258726It's alright he will get his first big win with India so that the Indiaphiles in his admin get their fix
>>60258725So now americans get to manufacture cheap plastic toys while the chinks continue manufacturing higher value chain products?
>>60258696None, but so long as you’re not selling short on margin or bought puts that are deeply OTM or expire next week, you’ll make some money as reality sets in for the bulls. Look at what happened a day AFTER the giga pump this week due to the tariffs ending.Even if he calls off 100% of them, USA came out the loser. Most recession odds are between 40-60%. Also it’s gonna be real hard for the smart money to not roll money into bonds when the market is behaving like a schizo retard and yields are 2x inflation. Believe it or not, the average investor doesn’t like it when stocks swing 20-30% wildly in either direction over a month.
>>60258723It’s… it’s fucking over… we lost… the greatest depression is here bros liquidate everything…
>>60258705Mortgages are up to 7%Fucking kek
>>60257881This is worse. Once you dedicate to an insane action you have to play it through to the end, going "lmao jk" less than halfway through makes you look weak at best and retarded at worst. If you're going to declare a trade war on the entire planet you'd better at least TRY to win it. Even if it doesn't work, you can still say you did something and people will rally behind that. This has just left everyone confused.
>>60258754No, because with schizo Trump over here and our cultural fractures, no-one's gonna want to build any factories. If they STARTED with this (and a few other key-for-them markets), then we might've had something, because then they can continue to manufacture cheap toys while we focused on our electronics (which we do already have exports for).But now the trust is gone because Trump listened to a schizo, and China smells our economical blood.
I just want to get this off my chest: I sold my AAPL after holding for 12 years (since 2013) on Friday and I think it's completely hilarious that they got a tariff exemption one day later on Saturday.This is 100% "he sold? Pump it" scenario
>>60258766Got a CFD open that will be liquidated automatically if the market goes up 2.5%I'm done 99% sure
>>60258789>you have to play it through to the endHe's proof you don't, he's being doing this bullshit for how many years now?
>>60258789CANT GO TO WAR IF YOU AINT GOT MONEY
>>60258790Insulting Europeans and rambling about annexing Canada and Greenland didn't help too
>>60258806Finally. I was waiting for this. Why not just hike rates?
inb4 double tariff on tech
>>60258813Whats funny is his retardation revived Canadian nationalism and handed the election back to the liberals
>>60258825>caring about Canada
>>60258821>someone finally made trump figure out tariffs are supposed to be used surgically on specific sectorspretty bullish
>>60258835You should if you ever wanna buy a car
>>60258835>not caring about one of your main trade partnersPride cometh before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall
>>60258821>WE WILL TARIFFS CHINA at 500%*>*(exceptions will be made for 90% of the import)
>>60258821So he's exempting them just to tariff them later? This shit is exhausting
Do (you) hear the music playing?
>>60258805He never even approached this level of craziness in his first four years. There was a lot of confused policy, but it mostly wasn't the sort of thing the average person concerns themselves with. This barrage of "will they or won't they" stock manipulation and sabre rattling is known to the entire planet. Combine this with his further waffling and confusion on the immigration issues that got him elected, the fomenting dissent of Congressional Republicans who don't like getting booed at their own rallies, and the continuing conflicts in Gaza and Ukraine, and you're looking at a world leader that is speedrunning a complete collapse of faith in his abilities. Things are gonna get worse before they get better.
>>60258899he cant even fulfill his immigration policy, he can't even deport like Biden and Obama because the faggot let Elon fire so many people
>start small>do small things>if you fuck up, no big deal>start big>do big things>fuck up, everyone laughs at you (((THIS IS WHERE HE IS AT)))>no one takes you seriously the boy who cried tariffs
>>60257820It is still better to have a factory of machines building machines in the United States, then a sweatshop in a hostile nation.
>>60258893https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pct1uEhAqBQI do actuallyCould you lower the volume please? this shit has been blasting for weeks now
>>60258813>Insulting Europeanswhere did he do that, you faggot? All vance said was that they should let people speak and ease up on the replacement migration.
>>60258893I keep hearing the Requiem for a Dream songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc3Cq89P97Y
>>60258916in America we have a lot of licenses and regulations for you to manufacture, thats why when you walk into any store in America 99% chance youre not going to see MADE IN AMERICA on a single item
>>60258922>20% tariff on EU>Multiple aggressive threats toward Greenland>JD vance calling them freeloaders in conv"insulting" is a mild way to qualify whatever the fuck the current admin is doing
>>60258939they are freeloaders though, obviously. America has paid for their defense for decades.
>>60258922"parasites" sounds like a compliment to you?And falsely claiming "the EU was made to rip the US off", showing both arrogance and ignorance at the same time?Fuck around and find out. The second part has just started. Your hubris will be your downfall. Just ask Elon.
>>60258948We willingly asked everyone if we could be the police of the world you retard, only MIGGERS have this isolationist dogshit mentality, a republican from 15 years ago would call you a fucking retard we need 400k more troops in Iraq
>>60258948>they are freeloaders thoughOh boy, you so much finding out left ahead of you
>>60258890I don't think tariff exclusions meant 0% tariff just that he wants sector specific tariffs. He might just do 10% as standard and add another 10% on top for cars for example.
>>60258948And this turned the US national currency into the world's reserve currency, essentially making that military free.
>>60258821Is he already backpedaling from today's backpedaling? Fucking clown, someone JFK him already.
>>60258952>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>an urironic elon dicksucker on /biz
Whats the timeline for him to get over this tariff shit? 2 months?
>>60258917>>60258928You are not panicans, are you?
>>60258972speculation is late june where there's confluence of many issues lining up at that timeframe from supply shortages to bonds expiration dates.
>>60258922>>60258939Don't forget saying European democracy is in danger when Trump is the one that tried to overturn an election. Or when he called the UK some random country that hasn't fought a war in 40 years despite them fighting in the Middle East. I read his book a few years ago and he's changed completely. Who knows what his real opinions are, disingenuous hack
>>60258973I'm almost all cash because the market is too retarded in the short term, and I'm not a day trader.I just have some wild TSLA puts expiring in semptember.
>>60258988>Don't forget saying European democracy is in dangerI think it was a measured speech to be honest, with some hard truths spliced in it, the EU does have a free speech problemProblem is the optics of that speech were obliterated when the white house kicked reporters out of the white house for not saying "Gulf of america"
>>60258996yeah and they also lost the case saying kicking the AP out for that was suppression and unconstitutionalcuck admin
>>60258957>warmongering redditor>weThe only real enemies to my people are within america's borders. Young, white men have realized this, which is why 80% of us support republicans. We see you for what you are, "liberal" commie.
>>60259011t. obese retard who struggles to breath when he leaves his house
>>60257879Right, you have to jack up taxes on corporations (fair) and the middle class (not mommy and daddy!), and you have to cut Medicare Medicaid and Social Security (and if it's part of fixing healthcare, alright fine but that's going to involve telling doctors to take a big pay cut, it's not just the heckin insurance companies)
>>60258996Fuck you buddy, free speech is very fine around here.More than in Trumpland, where as you said refusing to say "Gulf of America" gets you kicked out of the newsroom. Or not sucking off Israel hard enough gets your public funds withdrawn.
>>60257655Has been since the late 40's india was "the most diverse" and "the freest" country. Don't really get it. These niggers get mad if you shit in their office.
>>60258988>Don't forget saying European democracy is in dangerI mentioned that, you fucking moron. The eu is absurdly authoritarian and corrupt, and vance was correct in pointing this out. And there's nothing wrong with challenging sus election results, you fucking woman.
So. Now that we know the music has stopped... What do we do about it?
>weekend /pol/ migger shitting up /smg/ during after hours because he's a cuck who supports a cuck
>>60259011I like trump but even I can realize he went a bit overboard. If he could dial things down and dont try to be the main character people wouldnt feel uneasy anndd the market wouldnt swing every day. All he actually had to do is get rid of the woke shit and deport illegals and everyone would be happy
>>60259027>The eu is absurdly authoritarian and corrupt How is the EU "authoritarian"? Serious question.
>>60258988>how dare he criticize our authoritarianism!>actually defending laws that make "hate speech," "misinfo," and, in effect, disagreeing with the state illegal in the entire unionYou're retarded.
I'm starting to suspect that Don doesn't have the cards despite claiming otherwise
>>60259047how is that any different than american and it's "wrongspeak" issueliterally searching government workers social media for any bad words about their dear leader
I'm starting to suspect that Don doesn't even know how to play cards
>>60259044The uk alone jails more people for speech crimes than russia. Boomers there, and in many other eu states, get years-long prison sentences for facebook posts. They ban speech, parties, overturn election results, like in romania and even sponsor leftist terrorists in some places.
>>60259047>laws that make "hate speech," "misinfo," and, in effect, disagreeing with the state illegal in the entire unionShow me one such law. I dare you.
>>60259078man you make the UK seem so much cooler than it actually isin reality young people are just broke and eating kebab
>>60259076well he did bankrupt a couple casinos so that's not a wild guess
>>60258973Panicans are in control, don't trust the plan, where we go dump you go hold :D>>60259044it's because of the free speech meme which no country with a serious plan of operations follows 100% and also chlorine chicken salesmen are going hungry rn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oEJZ77yQ7M
>>60259079kys, redditor, really. 30 sec of googling. https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-2019-2024/new-push-european-democracy/protecting-democracy/strengthened-eu-code-practice-disinformation_en
>>60259086That's cool to you? Sending hundreds of white people to jail over speech crimes online? And why are you lying about it?
>>60259097I thought you loved authoritarianism, migger
>>60259047Meanwhile in the real world Trump is talking about running for a third term, ignoring court rulings and deporting citizens to El Salvador unconstitutionally. Yet "Europe" is the authoritarian state.
>>60257417Since Trump just cancelled tariffs on computer and tech parts, I'm thinking the play Monday is to go deep into SOXL or related heavy exposure tech ETFs. What do you guys think? There's a chance the market will "sell the news" and still dump due to the bond market.
>>60259092nothing in the link you posted threatens "free speech". There's no "illegality" and no "jailing", just some basic self-defense against foreign interference.Intentionally lying by foreign actors is not free speech, at least on the civilized side of the Atlantic.Would you allow jihadis to freely practice their freedom of speech?
KWAB
Did he exempt electronic components as well (resistors/capacitors/pcbs, etc?)
@TRUMP
>>60259078Can you give me an example of someone in the UK going to jail for "years" because of a Facebook post? And don't post Tommy Robinson bullshit, that was for contempt of court. Also UK hasn't been part of the EU for 9 years if you haven't noticed...
>>60257428PNC bros...
Would be funny if he said its a good time to buy again and announce 4000% china tariffs during market hours
>>60259079>i dare youI dare you to jump off a tall building.
>>60259145it's a just /pol/tard tourist feeding on Fox News and social media ragebait, nothing to see there.
>>60259100The left is always, everywhere the side of authoritarianism, at least relatively speaking.
>migger nigger twitter screencap is his source
>>60259155>/pol/ infographicslmao, reatrds gonna be retarded
>>60259108>ignoring court rulingsBiden did the same and even bragged about doing so. At least, with trump, he's ignoring obviously currupt judges engaging in lawfare. And yeah, europe is essentially commie.
Miggers should kill themselves, even on a board inherently right wing as /biz/ you fags are the most insufferable subhumans to ever exist. You're literally cultists who cry because we call your daddy a cuck because he fucking sucks at doing business. This is the business board, kill yourself
Unprofitable. Consensus will not be reached.
>>60259128>actually, chud, going after and trying to shut down every platform that hosts speech we disagree with isn't incongruate with free speech
>>60259143He doesnt know what those are
>>60258696For Monday? No lol but recession is still on the table, especially if he gets bored of cucking and moves on to the die for Israel arc (Iran threats)
>>60259178Britain jailing protesters was major news worldwide for a few weeks. Who do you think you're kidding?
>>60259186>europe is essentially commie
miggers failing to understand the first rule of business, we are on team green not team blue or red
>>60258766>or expire next week*gulp*
wait why do you call these threads stock market general? there's no stock discussion at allit's just sporstball politics trying to convince random dudes on the internet their side is "right"
>>60259128>Intentionally lying by foreign actors is not free speechFirst of all, this mostly concern the speech of citizens in the eu, you obtuse cunt. Doesn't involve terrorism either, which makes the comparison with jihadists absurd. disliking eu immigration policies is not equivalent to wanting to murder people. Anyway, state actors should simply not be in charge of deciding what truth is and getting to remove everything they dislike. That obviously invites abuse.
>>60259168Trump is a Leftist. None of his fiscal policies are conservative and it's his aministration's stated aim to empower the government to crush out all aspects of society it deems unworthy to exist. The only "right-wing" thing about him is psyops about trannies (less than 1% of the population) playing women's sports (less than .01% of the population) and wanting to get rid of brownoids (unless they're one of the millions of them who are propping up agriculture, hospitality and construction).
>>60259237It's the weekend. There's no stock to discuss.
>>60259237be the change you wish to see. what stock do you want to discuss?
>>60259024all of this but unironicallyfuck social security and medicaredrown them all
>>60259213>No lol but recession is still on the table,wow sick stock prediction dude!!!can i pay you a monthly fee for expert insight like that
>>60259218>>60259237Unprofitable. Clean it up.
>>60259214>major news worldwide for a few weeksI must have missed that. Unless you mean "protesters" burning a random mosque because of fake news surrounding the mentally ill responsible of a horrible crime.
>>60259242you realize there's a forum called /pol right?you can go there and argue your point all day against random dudes who i'm sure you'll convince to abandon all their ideas and join your side
>>60259150except for everything he needs
https://archive.is/20250410202255/https://www.ft.com/content/8815b91b-980a-4005-851d-9c7f7f5983a1I've been trying to keep up with Walmart since I've seen people claim 60% of their is china, but I dont see any real proof of that outside of their seasonal garbage and toysThey dont seem too phased, honestly as long as food stays relatively stable we'll survive
>>60259242yeah, i agree. Better than europe, by miles and miles, though. >newsI wonder how the market will look at it. I was very bullish a few hours ago. Now, I'm not so sure.
he actually caved huh what a cuck
>>60259206The problem is if components themselves are not exempt it incentivizes manufacturing outside of the US. Since it'd be cheaper to build the whole thing in China and import the exempt item than to build it in the US with some imported parts inside (you'll never get to 100% US content, it's impractical).
Someone else bake I don’t wanna
>>60259253>muh fake newsPretty sure that there are lots and lots of pakis and muslims in britain and that they commit an enormous amount of crime, which is why the riots occurred.
>>60259248No you get it for free on stock market general when I'm bored
>>60259240you can dislike immigration policies all the time without issue, even governments do that in the EU. Nobody is going to jail you for that. And I'm not exactly pro immigration.Maybe you should get out of your retarded information bubble.
>>60259246It wasn't ironic that's what we realistically have to do
>>60259294>you can dislike immigration policies all the time without issuelol You get declared a non-person and cancelled if you do that, at best. If you speak too much truth, you're going to spend years behind bars. Dude, you're free to simp for your commie shithole and be as obtuse as you want, but I'm sick of it. I won't respond to you anymore.
I'm not bakingYOU bake it
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHA REFUNDS ON SEMICONDUCTORS
>>60259323I can bake, but idk what kind of op pic to useI've been scrolling thorugh my folders and thinking about it for over ten minutes...
>>60259282That's why I hope the chinese will just 100% increase prices for profits on the components or ban export of the products to force him to cut down all tariffs.
>>60259258The thread is past bump limit, gomensorry for replying to what people are talking about, niggerThe stocks are too volatile to do anything good with right now. Smart retailies got out months ago, long term investors are gonna squat on it like they always do. If you're a day trader post some of your wins or losses or something.
>>60259326what happened now
>>60259323kek
OD WE GO ALL IN ON APPLE, NVIDIA, & AMD???
>>60259276>tariffs>but not on things you'd want to manufacture domestically >deport migrants like randos from canada or australia >but make big exemptions for industries like agriculture filled with barely literate wagies from latin americaI cannot imagine being a bigger cuck than a migger desu. just an embarassing personality cult they bought into
>>60259335Yeah, well right now it seems Apple gets what it wants but small businesses that might make stuff in the US lose out (as usual).
>>60259321>You get declared a non-person and cancelled if you do thatI live in the EU and that's just not the case.Got any facts to back that up (Xitter and Fox News ragebait don't count)? Can you show me any instance where anyone has got even the slightest trouble because of "criticizing the immgiration policies"? Mainstream political parties do that all the time.As a reminder, "kill all niggers" is not criticizing immigration policies
>>60259344Trump said the US is going Fullconductor now, it's over
>>60259344>Spencer Hakimian>@SpencerHakimian>*TRUMP: TARIFFS SINCE APRIL 5 ON SEMICONDUCTORS WILL BE REFUNDED>External Revenue Service is now the External Refund Service.
>>60259354not a cult
ok baked>>60259381>>60259381>>60259381
>>60259362>SpencerHakimianThis is a subtard IQ grifter farming engagement ragebait.wouldn't believe anything he says until it's corroborated by other accounts.
>>60258799my condolencesthis bastard market fucks us
>>60258914kek
>>60259078UK has nothing to do with EU?
>>60258821I'm getting fucking lost, are we fucking backpedaling again?
>>60260041>backpedalingNever happened outside of your head.
>>60258232I ain't saying the chinks aren't fucked, i'm just saying everybody's fucked.
>>60258821so wait, he is tariffing electronics? is he just gonna tariff them more? less?
