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It would hurt if I dropped this on my foot edition.

>Why Gold & Silver?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/(US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/(EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/(Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/(Other rare metals)
https://www.ma-shops.com/ (Numismatics)
https://www.goldeneaglecoin.com/ (US)
https://stoutgold.co/ (US)
https://www.aydincoins.com/ (US)
https://prospectorsgoldandgems.com/ (US)
more at:https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en/
https://silverseek.com/
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
https://www.mining.com/
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/(US)
https://eu.compare.pm/(EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/(DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
https://www.coinflation.com/
http://coinapps.com/
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

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>>60937255
Nice - thanks for baking, too
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So, when is my Apu supposed to ship? Still waiting, still no tracking number. When did mintAnon last post?
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There once was a man from the land of the sun,
Who bragged about riches he'd never won.
He polished fake gold with obsessive delight,
And posted on forums from morning to night.

With usernames bold and his stories so grand,
He'd speak of investments and jewels in hand.
But truth told a tale he tried to dismiss—
His fortune was nothing but digital bliss.

He scoffs at the ones with their safes full of shine,
“Old fools,” he declares, “all stuck in decline.”
“They hoard their dumb bars, so heavy and cold—
While I trade in whispers more clever than gold.”

He rants on the threads, his tone sharp and loud,
Insulting the stackers, hanging with their crowd.
“They cling to their silver like it gives them worth,
But I know the markets, the trends, and the Earth.”

Yet deep in the night, he scrolls with a sigh,
As pictures of bullion keep catching his eye.
He mocks what he wants, yet can't quite attain—
A king in his mind, but broke all the same.

He chased empty glory, illusion his friend,
But pride without substance will break in the end.
The likes and the boasts couldn’t quiet the pain—
He drowned in the silence of effort in vain.

While stackers slept soundly with silver in hand,
He drifted alone like a ghost in the sand.
No coin to his name, no peace in his soul,
Just digital dreams and a heart with a hole.

One cold, final night, he faded from view—
The weight of false wealth had finally come due.
A sorrowful tale, a truth sharp and black:
If he’d saved in metal, he might still be back.
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>>60937278
email him retard, lol
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>>60937255
Thank you baker.

>>60937245
>This way even though it went up all us goyim will remember is that sickening red candle falling, falling, falling.
Yes, they are good at demoralizing. It may very well happen as you describe. The only wildcard is the retail investor. So far, all we have are boomers net selling at retail. Once the NPCs stampede into silver, katie bar the door.

Silver hit the ATH in Canadian dollars on Friday.
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>>60937293
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When will silver and gold be traded on the weekends and 24/7? How will these barbaric relics be able to keep up with crypto when they can’t be traded all the time?
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Do any of you ever get good finds from those antique malls where lots of different vendors just leave their shit in their bays and you check it out at the front (or get the front to get the keys to the glass cabinet)?
I'd imagine they barely change their pricing since they have to come in and physically write new tags for their coins. You can probably get some decent silver well below spot that way. I mean I guess there's always a chance you get fakes, but if you know what to look for its probably okay.
I occasionally see mercury dimes or various constitutional silver coins but I ignore them because it'd be a pain to get someone with the key. Also I don't know shit about constitutional silver.
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Frenly reminder, silver is considered a Giffen good. As the price rises, demand for it increases.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffen_good

When the tide turns, Premiums will spike and $45.00 will look cheap.
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>>60937311
>When will silver and gold be traded on the weekends and 24/7
When it becomes tokenized and mainstream. The trading floors won't voluntarily give up their power any sooner than the Fed would give up its power to create digital Federal Reserve Notes.
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>>60937312
>You can probably get some decent silver well below spot that way
Yes, but you are EARNING the discount through your time, effort and expertise.

If you have the time, interest and inclination to do it, you have earned every penny that you save. Similarly the stores selling the underprice silver are making a profit over their acquisition cost, but do not have the time or skillset to properly grade their inventory and price up to spot.

You are arbitraging your time and skill for good profit, and deserve every penny you make.
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>>60937310
People don't realize that circumstances can and often do change very quickly. Just look at how retarded the world became after January 2020.
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The tongue of the just is as choice silver. The heart of the wicked is little worth.
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>>60937255
I love coin necklaces.
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>>60937313
people will panic, and thats a good thing
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>>60937383
lol, good times
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>>60937383
They will, but they'll rush out to buy toilet paper, not silver.
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>>60937400
Part of the reason I took the time to research PMs and investing is so I could load up on resources for (potential) hard times. Temporary ones, but being human temporary can still mean a significant chunk of one's life.
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>>60937371
Even though they do a way better job of doing it now days I still have an irrational hatred of people who turn real coins into necklaces.
Whichever one on my ancestors did this should burn in hell.
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Paid $12.84 off eBay (so I’ll get 3.3% cash back) and it’s worth $27. I love cheapies
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New Silver came in the Mail, I won these on Ebay last week for around spot and now they're already worth more than what I paid for them.
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>>60937407
I was going by the reaction of the population during the Covid crisis.
But oh yeah... PMs.
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>>60936526
>This is to be expected of exponential functions
I don't know why this doesn't terrify everyone,
>Look at income of a household in 1970
>8,730
>Put this in stock market gains calculator
>This is a million dollars now
And don't tell me we just got that much more efficient and make that much more value, working one singular year in the past just shoved into the stock market makes you a millionaire if you invested 1 year's income.
I simply have zero faith in the modern system and said rates of "growth."
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>>60937544
And so basically, going by the official numbers, everyone should be millionaires now. The money printer just prints money and prints and prints.
>Why does this not happen?
Nobody answers this, it's all about "risk" and other stupid shit.
Basically, the crashes are needed because the money printer prints value to infinity and makes everyone a millionaire within 1 year of work and 50 years of play. Not just a recession, but the entire stock market has to crash or we all become gorillionaires, and when we pass 50,000 dollars down to our kids by the time they're 30 they're millionaires too.

I just don't believe said system can ever be stable, I will literally only ever buy into the stock market directly after a crash, otherwise I'm buying silver.
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I kinda want to get some of these just for the novelty, but aren't these hugely overpriced?
>½ : $3.66 — Contains 1/2000 T Oz. of 24k gold
either im retarded and my math is off or that's basically double the spot price.

also does someone know what it's like getting them to europe? i know theres various sellers, is there a specific one that ships internationally? will customs fuck me in the ass?
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>>60935372
negative, fren. The coin/token in question is too thick to be a medieval pfennig. Thick enough for no hammering mark being left on the obverse, picrel. It's getting on my nerves i can't figure out what it is kek.
For ref, it was part of a lot of pretty rare frog colonial coins i recently won during an auction. All others coins were from the 1600-1700s so i'm scanning there first.
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>>60937572
Yeah, they're made with a 100% premium, they say this.
Now, you can resale them with 100% premium, but if you're stacking they're not a good purchase - they're a currency and novelty, not a stacker. They say as much on their website, they're made to be spent and traded at the "official goldback value" they have on their website, you're not trading for ounces of gold.
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>>60937581
at this point i'm thinking about a mereau token coming from an obscur bishopry. Maybe a newly established one in the new world or Guyana/Martinique/Guadeloupe..
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>>60937592
so basically those guys have found a way to sell gold to schizos at 2x the value lmao

good for them
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>>60937608
Eh, I bought a couple years ago and have made literally 100% of my money back because of gold's recent increase, not counting the premiums.
It's an attempt to make a currency out of gold, and it's not really a bad one. It does actually stand up to wear and tear if it's in a long wallet. The average normalnigger who sees one actually does recognize that it has value, there are odds out there that someone complied years ago on how often people accept trade offers of goldbacks - and the numbers aren't terrible (men are twice as likely to accept a trade)
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>>60937452
based slurpie enjoyer. Same thing here today : 12.50€ for those 3, the gulden alone is worth exactly 12.50 at spot, so that's a 2RM + 1F for free. Feelgudfren

That was the only cheapie i managed to secure today, ppl are chasing after silver pretty hard lately, getting hard to find good deals..
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>>60937371
Excellent sir
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>>60937521
Nice:)
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>>60937628
i was just looking at 2 1/2 guldens
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>>60937255
My brother-in-law dropped a heavy pc part on his foot a few weeks ago.
I saw it coming in this crystal ball, which would also hurt if dropped on your foot.
Luckily I saw it coming so my foot is fine.
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Like, has anyone ever watched some real time strategy game, like beyond all reason?
That's the economy. Unlimited exponential growth, and we're somehow not surrounded by millionaires but by a bunch of people working 9-5 jobs. Every young person now aged 20-30 puts money in the stock market, and according to experts they should ackshually be able to retire by 50 following standard growth formulas.
Only OOPS, you can't actually have a society full of millionaires and if it worked like that it would have already happened.
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>>60937652
They're nice. I have a bunch somewhere that aren't part of my collection more of a family heirloom.
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>>60937652
They are OK coins, i own few dozens of those Juliana ones. Never wanted to acquire any, but they often are parts of foreign junk lots. They wont fetch any premium because minted in large quantities (for the NL mind you), but they are recognizable, the purity is acceptable (.720) and contain 10.8g of pure, so good enough value in each of those.

What i like the most about them is they have little to no wear because they were minted right before the demonetization of currencies, so ppl hoarded them rather than getting them in circulation. So if you pay by the coin you are pretty much guaranteed to get your 15g, not like walking libs where you lose 5-10% of content from heavy wear.
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>>60937669
mfw the financial assumptions they taught us turned out to be bullshit
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>>60937669
>Only OOPS, you can't actually have a society full of millionaires
You can, it's just your millions are just worth a loaf of bread once you reach this point kek.
And that's exactly the path we are in. I guarantee you the standard growth formulas will hold for the stock market. A $52T large bubble isn't allowed to pop. It's just they will have to print a shitload of dollars to continue to keep the investors happy.
It was relatively easy to keep it afloat back when only a miniscule fraction of ppl were playing with stock exchanges, but now the most downloaded apps on phone are online brokers, as you said : can't have an entire country made of speculative leeches.

Everybody is grasping for air, trying to find a lifeboat to save themselves from the tempest of currency devaluation. And thank God their short sightness and greed pushed them toward the stock casino. It allowed us some time to stack what we could in the meantime.
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littleton coin is running a promo right now. ASE for $34. code is 34z400. enter that code after hitting "respond to an ad"
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>>60937699
>You can, it's just your millions are worth a loaf of bread
This is what I feel has happened to the housing market. Housing was affordable when it took X acceptable hours of manpower and special ability to make Y house.
It takes more and more and more, and everyone tries to get out of the trades and into a comfy desk job, or they bum it up in a service industry job because the trades aren't worth an extra 10 bucks an hour.
OOPS, the "value of homes" actually hasn't risen at all - the plaster they used to have, hand-hewn timbers, crafstmanship, ect. aren't needed anymore and now we just need someone who can pound in a nail, along with some specialized craftsmen, but you can't find them for under some high price, and basically the value of the dollar has decreased, the price of homes hasn't increased.
You cannot buy what you used to be able to with the dollar, it's not that homes are suddenly 1/2 million dollar mansions, but that the synthesis of what made a home affordable is no longer available in society - those service / office / desk jobs did not actually create value relative to what our society needs, so cost of living will increase, the dollar inflates (because actual value in said society goes down), a restructuring of society in general must take place.
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>>60937311
>>60937319
Let's see them try. After the great depression, people didn't trust the banks for the rest of their lives. The size of the debt bubble is going to cause very very serious economic losses and literally no one is going to be trusting Wallstreet and some broke ass federal government. There's not going to be any way to keep forking over more and more resources.
You are right that Wallstreet would LOVE to "tokenize" SLV but all of the research exists proving that they don't have the actual metal they pretend they do. I think you need to stop thinking strictly in the digital age where value can just be represented on a screen. I think people will want the real thing. It's not going to even be possible to admit the government and banks are both simultaneously broke only to have them turn around and try to get you to buy in to the next credit-scheme. It could take a whole generation of economic malaise before we get things moving again.
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>>60937323
Yeah, I think that's a good way to look at it.
Also if I find myself in an antique mall, its half to look for something specific, and half to just enjoy myself. So if I do end up with a few coins from it, that's just swell.
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https://youtu.be/qqk4qTaILJo
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Surely we have until christmas, right?
What is everyone's ACTUAL prediction for when the monetary collapse happens, or at least the priced-out point? Because it seems like everyone talks about how the breakout is already happening and is just gonna continue, but how should this happen? It would be a black swan event for sure where we couldn't trust past precedent (literally none of the conditions are like anything in the past), so, predictions?
100 dollar silver point?
And further beyond (fiat valueless) point?
It couldn't possibly be this year, could it? And going beyond that, next year should just be the mega-boom year if it's actually breaking out so that would be another entire year to buy afterwards, but the way people are talking it could happen tonight.
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>>60937795
>Let's see them try. After the great depression, people didn't trust the banks for the rest of their lives.
You are 100% correct, and also correct that it will happen again.

>You are right that Wallstreet would LOVE to "tokenize" SLV but all of the research exists proving that they don't have the actual metal they pretend they do.
I did not mean to suggest that it would or even should be done by wallstreet. The bitcoin network was was built by self funded individuals and organically, evolved and improved incrementally over time. I would suggest that a founder could do the same with tokenized gold.

Kinesis already has a foothold on that market, redeemable in 1 gram increments, but I'm thinking something much more decentralized and robust that would be outside any national governments, or any one companies ability to control, tax, regulate or ban, much like the current BTC network.

The original question was regarding a 24 hour silver/gold trading platform and I postulated a hypothesis based on extrapolating from the existing BTC network, which trades 24/7/365, although "exchanges" where you may have an account have downtime for maintenance, sometimes at inopportune times.

I personally think all Central Banks and their bankers should go extinct, and that the only money should be hard money, 100% reserve requirements, real specie used for most transactions, and no income tax, much like the USA pre-1913.
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Step one: stack shiny rocks
Step two: make it
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>>60937830
previous thread had sound prediction:

>Estimates are the LBMA has at most, 7 months worth of silver free float (available for delivery) at CURRENT demand levels.

>Should investment demand increase, that would drop to 4 months supply. When the supply approaches zero, the price approaches $100+.

>When the vault supply is near zero, there's no ability for the paper markets to short silver, therefore the market turns to a pure OTC physical market with true price discovery.

>The physical market is in a position where he who buys first gets his silver. Don't expect a short squeeze on the paper market. Expect a supply squeeze on the actual physical market when Tesla and other companies get in bidding wars for the few remaining 1000 oz LBMA/COMEX good delivery bars.

>Needless to say, if you own shares in miners, and especially junior miners, you may get a 10-20 bagger as the rising silver price makes them insanely profitable.
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>The average "stacker" has about 10 ounces
>This is the average person who goes and reads online about buying silver
They... normalniggers are fucking retarded, aren't they? There's no other explanation. Turns out the cream of the crop post on 4chud, and if you buy a single kilo bar / coin you're already above-average among even people who buy silver.
I seriously hope nobody here has a stack less than 100 ounces if you're more than 1/2 a year into this, that's suicide-tier stacking and you might as well just hope your boyfriend takes care of you when fiat falls.
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>>60937815
I haven't been to the LCS this last week, but I may swing by next week just to check out the action. Two weeks ago it was all boomers in the store SELLING.

I'll believe it when I see people lined up to buy.
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>>60937861
I'm at 400 oz after just under 2 years and I'm not even really trying that hard. I just throw extra cash at it that's leftover after my 401K and investments.
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>>60937871
Yeah, when I started I was working a McJob and just had like 1/2 a year of my savings, learned about silver, and immediately bought 160 ounces silver, one ounce platinum.
And it's kind of crazy to think that the average person is never ever doing anything like that and they would think it's insane.
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>>60937795
>>60937849
>After the great depression, people didn't trust the banks for the rest of their lives.
>You are 100% correct, and also correct that it will happen again.
How do we deal with going forward? Tattoo a reminder on people? I'm not joking.
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>>60937830
>It couldn't possibly be this year, could it?
Yes, it could. Right now we have:
-A huge market bubble, exceeding the dot com and 1929 bubbles.
-A huge real estate bubble, bigger than 2008 that is popping RIGHT NOW
-A worldwide bond market crisis.
-All time highs in several currencies for both gold and silver.
-US Treasuries have been eclipsed by gold as a reserve asset.
-US Dollars are being eschewed by increasing numbers of countries as the world reserve currency.

When the conditions are perfect for an avalanche, you don't know exactly which event will trigger it, nor exactly when it will happen, you can only take steps to prepare in advance.

Major market crashes often happen in the months from September-November. We could end up in a decade long bear market.
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>>60937861
Please don't brag about the size of your stacks online. It just creates future liability for you down the road.

Keep calm and carry on stacking, knowing you are building a solid foundation for yourselves and your loved ones.
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>>60937861
>96 none on a sub dedicated to stacking
>don't even bother to count after 1200oz as if it was already rothschild tier
Damn this pic is sad.
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>>60937879
I got two sons, how much for those two blondes. Time to return to peasant and arrange marriages
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>>60937879
>How do we deal with going forward?
You will find that circumstances create a whole generation of redpilled survivors who never trust the goverment or banks. Problem is in three generations of good times, they will have forgotten all the lessons.

I'm early GenX. I spoke with some boomers and some Silent Gen types who told me about the Pre-Silent Gen (the Greatest Gen) who were some of the ones who had their money stolen by the Banking system.

Those were the guys who NEVER, EVER trusted the banks again with their money.

Germans were so traumatized by the Weimar hyperinflation that until THIS YEAR, they weren't allowed to run major deficits. The latest crop of idiots are planning to go a TRILLION Euros in debt to rebuild their military in order to "fight Russia".
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>>60937863
>Two weeks ago it was all boomers in the store SELLING.
This lines up with my experience as well, when I was at the LCS the other day the dealer automatically assumed I was there to sell because most of the other people going to the shop over the past couple weeks had been selling.
He sold me junk Silver for below spot due to how much he had in stock.
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>>60937906
I know you're being funny, those girls would be in their 90s if they are still alive. The human suffering in the coming crash will FAR EXCEED the terrible suffering experienced in the 1930s.
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>>60937903
It's extremely bullish though, it means richfags can buy in and not worry about making the plebs rich also. If the 1% of the population was schizo stackers, and of said 1% the majority of them held McJobs and still spent their money instead of stacking - the rich don't have to worry really, same thing that happened with BTC. So what if some random guy who got interested in the thing 10 years ago is now a billionaire, 99% of people were never interested and of the 1% that were only 20% of them ever really committed, and of those 20% that committed most (80%) got caught up in real-life bullshit and inevitably wasted their potential anyway, so the ones with a real good stack - following the 80 / 20 rule and then selecting for those in a good economic position who could consistently buy - 20% of 1% and then cut it in a quarter - this would be .05 percent of the population who could actually stand to gain a decent amount. Even without that final 1/4 cut for economic position / money management you're only talking .2% of the population.
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>>60937916
>He sold me junk Silver for below spot due to how much he had in stock.
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Just some odds and ends, including a Johnson Matthey classic bar, less than 25,000 made of that particular one.
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>>60937861
This is why the true sweet spot is probably roughly around 300 ounces for committed stackers. I personally think there’s no real reason to go above 400 ounces and at that point you are better suited to stack gold. I don’t think there’s going to be much of a difference post reset between 400 ounces and 1,500 ounces. It’d be like the difference between someone with 120 million dollars and 70 million dollars. People with 2,000 ounces of silver are breaking their back for no good reason. That’s $80,000 which is basically nothing tier in terms of fiat but a fucking truckload in silver terms compared to every American. If whatever schizo fantasy we think will play out with silver in a monetary role where we 100x our incomes then someone with 85 ounces of silver is going to have to be fucking thrilled with that amount, otherwise having stacked 750 ounces of silver won’t mean shit.
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>>60937890
Sadly We've all had tragic boating accidents.
Stacks have been lost.
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>>60938010
I couldn't handle the years of under performance and sold all my silver for poop coin :(
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>>60937863
>>60937916
Yup. You can look any LCS vid lately and all you see is an endless stream of boomies coming to cash in (what i hope for them to be only part of their stack, because that's rarely big bags).

I don't want to be too conspiratorial, but it really all align perfectly for the richfags wanting to slurp all PMs. I fear many boomies will live to regret their missing stack. They believe it's a good price because it still didn't down on them we are at the dusk of our current system. They only lived through good times, to them it's the only existing metric.
Plus all the absurd inheritance laws getting voted (here it's 60% of the net value fyi, just unreal..) are forcing the boomies to cash in early their assets to give away their money before they die. I'm sure it's having a non-negligible impact.
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>>60938006
There's a difference between "thrilled" and "weekly vacations to europe" levels of money, though - and it's all about timing and exploitation of advantages.
Realistically yeah, the higher amounts are more or less insurance - we don't REALLY know how fast unobtanium-level is coming, whether we'll have a year at 100, or a year at 1,000, or whether it will all happen fast and hard.

Realistically if you have 500 instead of 300 that's an extra 200 cushion for if you mistime spending it - or some play money for if you want to have fun spending it without trying to hit peak - or some safety money for if somehow you break a leg and need to pay hospital bills before it peaks - or some insurance money because some relative you care about just had all of their lifetime investments liquidated and they're gonna die in the cold.
There are many situations out there that could happen, and basically more is infinitely better - the real distinction of "why are you doing this" might be at around 10,000.
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>>60937922
Yes it's definitely playing to our advantage. I'm pretty certain banks are keeping a close eye on how much PMs retail own for this very reason. And they have all the tools to do it, here LCS aren't really a thing, so the VAST majority of ppl buying gold pass through their bank as intermediary to do so (like it's 85% of all investment gold getting purchased by individuals).
I'd be really curious to see their numbers : how many stackers in each country, what size/composition the average stack is, etc..
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>>60938021
“Thrilled” in the sense where the masses are FUCKED and that 85 ounces gives you and your family a runway for 3-5 years to be comfy. Or enabling you to buy a good business free and clear or home free and clear with a years worth of savings left over.

That’s the only way silver holders “make it” where you are able to be extra comfy while the rest are fucked. It’s not like silver goes to $3,000 and your 100 gives you $300,000 in today’s world where everything outside of you remains relatively the same and your 300k gives you a few years of breathing room.
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>>60938006
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>>60938040
If you have 500 ounces of silver and think you need 1,500 ounces of silver to be comfy. Who are you exactly getting a leg up on going from 500 to 1,500 ounces?
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>>60938044
>Who are you exactly getting a leg up on going from 500 to 1,500 ounces?
My former self. Fuck him.
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>>60938006
>Yeah bro, having less money is better than more money.
Fucking retard.
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>>60938044
>Who are you getting a leg up on?
Why is this even a question? Do you have to be fighting someone for 1500 to be 3x the amount of 500?
Do you have to always be fighting someone to stack? I don't get it, if you thought the world was gonna be flipped upside down why wouldn't you back up the truck and pile up as many advantages as you can? If you ever stop stacking you're not serious. There's no real reason not to stash another 500 ounces somewhere.

I'll stop stacking when it's time to cash in (unobtanium or 1,000 an ounce (in order to stack more when it dips)), but I'm not stopping a second before then.
>>60938053
this tbqhwy, why would you not just stack until everything falls apart?
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Can we talk about junior miners or is everyone here physical only?
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>>60938056
>>60938064

You people are retarded. Virtually NOBODY owns 300 ounces of silver. NO ONE. If silver does in fact play out as the schizo investment of the century where 1 ounce of silver keeps you comfy for a month, then it won’t fucking matter if you have 300 ounces or 1,000 ounces.

YES of course 1,000 ounces is better than 300 ounces and if silver was the only PM in existence then stack till you have 5,000 ounces. But if you dumbfucks don’t think there’s a real possibility that silver doesn’t go along with gold for the ride then you are playing with fire.

There’s probably poorfags with 300 ounces of silver and 0 gold trying to get to 800 ounces in the next year. And they could have got 4 ounces of gold in the next year instead. But the poorfag doesn’t realize that he’s already rich post reset with 300 ounces of silver IF it plays out that way. But there’s a world where gold gets revalued huge and silver goes to $65 or something pathetic like that.
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Anyone ever see candles like this?
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>>60938064
>Why is this even a question? Do you have to be fighting someone for 1500 to be 3x the amount of 500?
>Do you have to always be fighting someone to stack?

If your average American owned 50 ounces of silver and 5%-10% of Americans owned 300-500 ounces of silver. Then getting to 1,500 ounces from 500 ounces makes sense before the reset.

But nobody fucking owns 300-500 ounces of silver. So the wealth transfer that we all hope will happen that will be immense will be as big as we think it will be because nobody fucking owns it. The fucking chud with 300 ounces of silver is already well stacked.

Someone being pissed post reset only having 300 ounces when they could have had 800 ounces will be similar to someone winning a 100 million powerball this month and then 4 months from now being pissed off that someone wins it at 800 million
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>>60938126
Nobody is saying to not have gold as well. Gold going to $50k or something and leaving silver behind at $65 is even more schizo than $1000 silver. Just get a higher ratio of gold if you think it's that bullish. Personally I see a much higher payout for silver, so that's what I would focus on, but sure get some gold as well that way you're covered no matter what. Either way, there's no reason to stop stacking once you hit a certain stack size, what sense does that make? You want dollars instead?
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>>60938135
barcoding
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>>60938148
>$100,000,000 / 300 oz = $333,333 / oz
That's the most insane price prediction I've ever seen for silver, and I browse /pmg/ daily.

>800/300*100,000,000=266,666,666
So, it would be like a $266,666,666 powerball, not 800 million. I'm beginning to suspect you're iqdelete with those math skills.
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>>60937861
>The average "stacker" has about 10 ounces
This is crazy to me because my first ever silver purchase was twenty 1 ounce silver rounds because they were selling them at spot. I mean even at the time that was still a fifth or so of a single 1 ounce gold coin.
My next planned purchase is 100 ounces, probably ten 10 ounce bars, or maybe just a fat 100 ouncer. I don't really see the point in stacking it super slowly when I can stack double digits at a time, either in tubes or bars. I'm after equivalent dollar value here, and if its a choice between 1 gold eagle or silver, then the silver needs to add up.
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>>60938167
>Gold going to $50k or something and leaving silver behind at $65 is even more schizo than $1000 silver.

Sorry, I’m not just convinced of this at all. Certainly not $1,000. $80-$400 sure I can see that. And if silver does go to $1,000/oz with gold at $50,000/oz and you were guaranteed these would be the numbers in 2 years time, well…. You wouldn’t even be losing much at all if you stacked just gold exclusively for the next 2 years and bought 0 ounces of silver. I mean that’s only a 50-1 ratio, which really isn’t even that far from what it is right now.

You’d have to be pretty near damn certain that the ratio would go to 10 to 1 to justify going more than 50/50 silver to gold in your stacking. And even then at 10 to 1 you certainly are not going to get a 10 to 1 conversion for your silver to gold. If gold goes to 10k per ounce and silver goes to 1k ounce, you’ll probably at best get a 25 to 1 ratio on your silver for gold. What the fuck you think the dealers are going to do? Give you 2$ below spot at $1,000 oz silver? HAHA LMFAO. You’ll probably get $700 for that silver ounce because the dealers fucking know that that spread of 10 to 1 will only last a couple weeks at most.

Thousands of chuds lining up at the coin shop for that 10 to 1 silver to gold exchange and you think the dealers are gonna give you 1 ounce of gold for 10 ounces of silver? Lol
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>>60937890
Fixed it for you.
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>>60938126
>BRO the super duper mega upset why the fuck would you even want a silver?
I still stack silver 99% because of its massive industrial use, I'm not nearly as bullish as on gold because it simply is not constantly used in every single advanced piece of technology available. They're fundamentally different things and as we move into the future silver's prominence will naturally show itself. No black swan? Silver still does a 10x. Black swan? Why stack gold?
>>60938190
It's pretty schizo, like completely schizo almost, to demand a 1-10 ratio when the current ratio is 1-86 and 5 years ago was only 1-70, like even in the current ratio you're losing 20% upside if you're stacking gold right now. It's basic numbers, you are literally getting less for getting gold right now and that only pays off if a gold black swan occurs and silver somehow goes even more down, more than it ever has before.
>>60938148
Why would I not be pissed at missing 500 million at that upside, then? It just doesn't make sense, and if you stick with more sensible numbers that could be the difference between 1 million and 2 million, gigantic difference.
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>>60938121
That's spectacular. Well done!
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>>60938121
Your coins are nice. I have a coin necklace of a lot of your gold coins. We do you buy your gold coins. I buy mine from Europe ebay so they are tax free. Since in Canada 90 percent gold is taxed
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>>60938126
I hope your right, I want to shit on the normies. Also does anyone remember the old pmg Maul poster. I hope he gets his revenge.
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>>60938010
>>60938014
If anyone here has friends or relatives that were eager to get vaxxed, try not to tell them about your stack. They've proven that they are establishment NPCs who will buy the narrative that our economic troubles are caused by evil hoarders, and will likely turn you in.

If they were vaxxed and now hate the government and the media, they might be trustworthy.
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>>60938213
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>>60938195
>It's pretty schizo, like completely schizo almost, to demand a 1-10 ratio when the current ratio is 1-86 and 5 years ago was only 1-70, like even in the current ratio you're losing 20% upside if you're stacking gold right now. It's basic numbers, you are literally getting less for getting gold right now and that only pays off if a gold black swan occurs and silver somehow goes even more down, more than it ever has before

Are you stupid? That’s my point. If you are gonna stack 90/10 silver to gold then you have to be pretty sure that silver is gonna go to a 10 to 1 ratio with gold in the future. What the fuck are you missing here?

Who cares about that 20%-40% upside having silver compared to gold. You aren’t sure it will narrow again, and even if it does, I’m saying that you aren’t even losing that much stacking gold exclusively.

A crystal ball says in 2 years gold will be $50,000 and silver will be $1,000. A 50 to 1 ratio from the current 86 to 1 ratio. And there is a law saying only you can buy gold and no silver for the next 2 years. You aren’t going to be that pissed at all.

You need that 10 to 1 silver to gold ratio to be pissed about only being able to buy gold and not silver. And like i said, even then you’re still only getting $700 per ounce of silver at best with a $1,000 price of silver. So it will only end up being 30 to 1 anyway.

Thats a lot of effort going HUGE into silver and low into gold, given that gold could be revalued and silver could drag way behind.

All I’m saying is 300-400 is probably optimal. Anymore than that at the expense of gold and you are playing when you don’t have to play.
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>>60938122
>Can we talk about junior miners or is everyone here physical only?
Jr Miners is where the BIG money will be made. I don't have the skill or the energy to do the necessary legwork to reduce the risk from the bad ones, so we've chosen to take a reduced upside in exchange for zero downside risk by going with some of the bigger miners.

Here is a twitter account following some of the Juniors and tracking their performance:
https://x.com/Silver__Santa
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>>60938225
>Gold could be revalued and silver could be way behind
Silver could be revalued and gold could be way behind. The current ratio is far above even modern ratios of what gold and silver trade for, and so far silver is increasing nearly as fast as gold. There is absolutely no scenario where gold moons to impossibly high levels and silver's left behind. They're both PM's and recognized as such, and if gold gets revalued silver does too - it's already getting revalued.
You're making up fantasy scenarios and justifications for refusing to buy more silver. You don't need a 10-1 ratio, you are losing 20% upside currently compared to even 5 years ago. That upside matters, there's no guarantee any asset moons within the next few years to unimaginable levels.
>If you're gonna stack 90/10 silver gold you have to be sure it goes to a 1/10 ratio
That doesn't make any sense at all and none of what you say in your post backs it up. You're a retard if you're buying gold right now.
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>>60938195
>Why would I not be pissed at missing 500 million at that upside, then? It just doesn't make sense, and if you stick with more sensible numbers that could be the difference between 1 million and 2 million, gigantic difference.

Cuz you don’t know if that upside will play out for silver.

If you have 250 ounces of silver today and 4 ounces of gold. And gold is guaranteed to be at $50,000/oz in 2028, but you don’t know where silver will go. Silver could go anywhere between $200 and $2000.

And you have $100,000 to dump into gold and silver in the next 2 years. Or let’s say you have 100k to dump into either right now, what will be your buying strategy for gold and silver? How much is that 100k do you allocate to gold and how much to silver?
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>>60938190
>You’d have to be pretty near damn certain that the ratio would go to 10 to 1 to justify going more than 50/50 silver to gold in your stacking.
No, your reasoning is completely wrong. If you're trying to decide whether to buy 50/50 silver/gold or not, the only thing that matters is the current GSR and what direction you think it will move in. If you are 100% positive that silver is undervalued in terms of gold, then you should be all in on silver. If you're 100% positive that gold is undervalued in terms of silver, you should be all in on gold. If you believe the current GSR is right on the money and will never change going forward, you should be 50/50.

It sounds like you think silver is undervalued, but you're only 90% confident and want to hedge your bets. If you're 90% sure, then you should buy 90% silver 10% gold.
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>>60938126
>>60938148
SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH YOUR RETARDED TROLLING
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>>60938236
There’s tons of videos and chatter about gold being revalued right now. If there’s no reset or “mooning.” Then this was all for nothing. I’m not saying dont buy silver retard. I’m saying the chud fearing that 250 ounces of silver isn’t enough is a retard cuz nobody fucking owns 250 ounces of silver. And that gold being a “tier 1 asset” should be of more concern to get at that point than doubling is already huge stack of 250 ounces (compared to normies) to 500 ounces. And then gold gets revalued and silver ends up maybe not going along with gold for the ride. And then he’s fucking suicidal
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>>60938126
>But there’s a world where gold gets revalued huge and silver goes to $65 or something pathetic like that.
You won't see a world where the price ratio of silver to gold is 1000:1. Even 120:1 causes flow from gold to silver. Silver is produced at a 7:1 ratio to gold, and unlike gold, most silver production is actually consumed.

When they talk about "revaluing" gold, they are talking about a legal accounting fiction allowing the Treasury to arbitrarily declare the value of the US government gold holdings. Each $4000/oz price increment is worth $1 trillion based on the supposed 8500 tons the US claims to have.

Revaluing gold on the books to $24,000/oz would allow the Treasury to create $6 trillion free and clear that they could used to reduce their debt to GDP from the current 120% to maybe 80%, which if combined with some ruthless Yield Curve Control and some severe budget (entitlement) cutting, MIGHT allow the US government to dig herself out of the debt trap she is currently in.

The $6 trillion in new money would be inflationary, and would effectively devalue the existing debt as a bonus.

Will it happen? No politician who is involved in this scheme would ever get re-elected by the boomers.

Given that the only future of the US Federal Reserve Note is to monetize the debt, suppress real Treasury interest rates with YCC, and inflate away boomer entitlements, both gold and silver will be going up relative to Federal Reserve Notes until the dollar dies.

Given that silver is an essential element for many industries, some of which are price insensitive, the price of silver will likely always be bound to gold in some ratio, usually between 15:1 and 85:1.
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>>60938254
holy shit how many IPs are you posting from? Just KYS already.
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Real incel hours
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>>60938135
>Anyone ever see candles like this?
Looks like someone was slurping up every short sale as fast as they could.
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>>60938246
>Cuz you don't know if that upside will play out for silver
If the world gets remade around precious metals it gets remade around gold and silver. There's not a world where it doesn't, silver already beats gold in percentage growth in 1 month, 3 month, YTD, and 1 year charts, and it's slingshotting faster - growing much faster in the 1 and 3 month than gold is. There is no world where gold moons and silver doesn't, it just doesn't happen, they don't say
>Hey this gold is good because it was historically used as money and a store of wealth
>Silver, bah, just a rock!
Your fictional scenario doesn't exist and the current numbers are already adjusting and shooting silver upwards.
I dump it all into silver, save maybe one singular ounce of gold.
>>60938254
>If there's no mooning this was all for nothing
Silver is an industrial metal that's being expended by 10% more every year while mine yields consistently decrease. Literally everything could stay the same and silver would rapidly become extremely valuable.
>250 ounces is an already huge stack
Not even a monster box, not even a 1,000 ounce bar.
>>60938260
I guess xe has to revive a dead thread somehow.
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>>60938247
>the only thing that matters is the current GSR and what direction you think it will move in.

False. This is what mattered from 1980 to maybe 2017 to increase your stack playing the ratio. This is now the end game (seemingly). I’m talking to chuds who think they are late to the game and they are scrambling to get metal. Gold or silver. The people here and on Reddit with 210 ounces of silver and 1 ounce of gold worried that shits about to go ham. They aren’t buying to pass it down to their grandchildren. They are buying cuz we are seemingly at the end game and they don’t want to be fucked. That guy with 210 ounces of silver hoping to get you 500 ounces should instead be concentrating on getting 4 ounces of gold now.
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>Gold has crabbed for roughly 3 months
>Even with the news about gold the 1 and 3 month charts are the same
>Silver is beating it in weeklies every week
>Bro, buy gold!
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>>60938148
>If your average American owned 50 ounces of silver and 5%-10%
50 x 350 million = 17,500,000,000

There is not enough above ground 999 silver available for the average American to have 50 oz. 17 billion oz represents over 20 years current mine production.

There is if you include every gram in every piece of jewelry and every gram in landfills on earth. In terms of what is actually commercially available, maybe no more than 3-4 billion oz, including all retail bars, coins, rounds, etc. at max.
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>>60938257
Did you post a few weeks ago about the recycling of silver and the 7:1 ratio ending your long post with "interesting, isn't it?

I meant to screenshot it
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>>60938193
Thanks. Those typos were funny.
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>>60938275
I’m just making a point faggot. The only reason silver could get to the point where an ounce pays for your rent for a month is because so few people own it. Sorry I’m not autistic about the math. If our greatest dreams play out with owning silver it’ll only be because nobody fucking owns it. Because they are all in dollar denominated financial assets. So then there’s a huge huge wealth transfer which backs up my point that if you have 200-400 ounces of silver you’ll be fine as fuck.
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>>60938285
>>>>>>>>>
Rich ppo can buy 1,000 ounce bars through the mail for .01% of their portfolio, there's no reason to get complacent.
Boomers can see the writing on the wall an hour before it all falls apart, go to the LCS, and buy out the store for 5% of their 401k. 200 ounces isn't "you'll be fine" level at all, at a 1,000 times that's only 200,000. It's only acceptable at a 5,000 times.
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>>60938190
>You’d have to be pretty near damn certain that the ratio would go to 10 to 1 to justify going more than 50/50 silver to gold in your stacking.
No. If I buy silver at 85:1 and sell at 40:1, my dollar will get me more gold by buying silver first. Most places have around a 5% buy and 5% sell spread, so even after taking the 10% cut (both ways) I'm still a little better ahead than I would have been just buying gold in the first place. 40:1 is not an unreasonable ratio, we've hit it several times in the 21st century, and in 2011 went down to 30:1, and we hit 20:1 three times in the 20th century.
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>>60938213
>I want to shit on the normies.
You are a true German at heart.
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>>60938290
You think the LCS’s are going to be open before they revalue gold? They are going to know. They are going to be tipped off well ahead of time and they are going to be closed the fuck down. You think these boomer dealers are gonna be open for business if gold revalues at 100k per ounce? Lol.
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>>60938285
>which backs up my point that if you have 200-400 ounces of silver you’ll be fine as fuck.
You wont. Silver wont magically makes you into a billionaire. Nor will gold. It will just allow you to continue to have your current lifestyle, which will be huge when everybody around you will go down the lebanese way : 3 hours of electricity/water per day, bland couscous everyday, bikecucking all around the city because can't afford gas, etc..

You'll feel like a king being able to take a shower thrice a week, having electricity to continue to play LoL at 1am while enjoying your deliveroo 5 Guys' burger.

And most important : the hoeflation bubble will pop, just like it does everywhere the economic situation becomes desperate enough and simps don't have the cash to sustain hundreds of thousands of e-whores.
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>>60938300
They stay open during big swings because they get an automatic 5% upside on any transaction, they are literally constantly buying and selling silver even right now because even though it's 40-something and has gone up massively and swings up and down with spot they make that back automatically.
>You think they'll be open?
Yes, because it's better than trying to time the peak. They'll cash in on the way up, and every customer gives them a 5% growth they can use to buy more. They were all open during the hunt brothers, and they even had guys doing truck runs to neighboring towns during the hunt brothers to buy and sell because there was so much demand.

So yes, past history says yes and basic economics says yes.
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>>60938227
Could do well but i'm not interested in throwing money at a crap shoot.
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>>60938307
Bro, if the whole system changes and gold is revalued the dealers won’t need to stay in business anymore.
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>>60938121
Holee sheiiiitttt!
Damn anon, nice pic!
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>>60938310
they stayed in business during the hunt brothers to catch the upside
>If the whole system changes
Doesn't happen overnight. Not even a market run does and that's literally moving paper and numbers on a computer.
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>>60938313
Nobody thought the world was ending in 1980. Nobody thought the dollar was fucked in 1980. Nobody thought the BRICS might take over in 1980. If you were a coin dealer today and you have like 50 ounces of gold in your inventory, not to mention your personal stash. And gold revalues to 75k/oz. You aren’t going to work the next day to scalp a 5% not withstanding having to worry about getting shot in the face by some gang member in or outside your store
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I have been thinking about these:
>GRSLF
>MMRGF
>GMVMF
>KOOYF
>AAGAF
Purely as supplemental high-risk high-reward play.

>>60938227
That account is you or? Why you speaking in plural?
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>>60938247
>If you are 100% positive that silver is undervalued in terms of gold, then you should be all in on silver.
Correct. Comparatively few people have silver, and almost no central banks hold it. Silver is considered today primarily an industrial metal, which is EXACTLY what the powers that be wanted.

Gold is already too pricy for the average American to afford. Most Americans don't have an extra $400.00 for an unexpected expense. What is the average debt level for Americans?
>The average debt an American owes is $105,056 across mortgage loans, home equity lines of credit, auto loans, credit card debt, student loan debt, and other debts like personal loans.

Freeing up $4k for ONE measly oz of gold? Silver becomes the go-to precious metal than the normie can afford. As outlined above, if the average American buys just 5 oz, that's enough to clean out nearly all the free float bars at the COMEX and LBMA. What happens to the price of silver then?

Why is silver so cheap? Because the US Government and the bullion banks have worked to make silver an unattractive investment. Spending years stuck in doldrums, huge downside volatility. I remember maybe over 10 years ago someone on reddit pointed out that in aftermarket trading, when the volume was very low, after London closed, but before NY opened, someone dumped FIVE MILLION paper oz in one shot. The price crashed, triggering stop losses. The sale was likely a spoof, and the price ended up higher than before the spoof, but the momentary drop caused everyone with a stop loss to sell at a loss.
>In a securities law context, “spoofing” is the practice of flooding a market with orders to buy or sell that are canceled before they go through

JP Morgan was fined $920 million (almost $1 billion) for such underhanded practices. They still made a slim profit for that year despite the massive fine.

Do I think silver is undervalued? As a monetary metal, yes.
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>>60938327
>That account is you or? Why you speaking in plural?
Because my better half and myself are a team. She's the brains, I'm the muscle.
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>>60938327
>That account is you
No, I'm not Silver__Santa. Jr Miners are above my skill/risk appetite level. I just noticed that he's one of the twitter accounts that seems to focus on Jr's without appearing to be a paid shill for any of them.
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>>60938341
I don't like that account. Your better half seems okay with it?
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>>60938329
I just think chuds are in for a big surprise if/when the silver to gold ratio corrects hard. Let’s say gold revalues to $50,000 and silver goes super high to say $4,000. Basically a 10 to 1 ratio. You think your LCS will be open? And if it is, you think you are gonna prance right in and get 1 ounce of gold for your 10 ounces of silver? AT BEST there will be limits and you’ll only get probably a 30 to 1 ratio deal at best. There will be hundreds of people in each city trying to offload their silver for the probably small amount of gold that an LCS has on hand at any given time. It’s like you think the dealers exist for you personally as your servant. They’ll be happy to exchange their now super precious revalued gold for silver that could swing back down to 50 to 1 by the end of the week
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>>60938313
>they stayed in business during the hunt brothers to catch the upside
There wasn't too much upside, they stopped allowing silver purchases, exactly like Robin Hood did with Gamestop shares. They stopped purchases through the app, only allowing sales.

They also increased margin requirements which put the big squeeze on the Hunt brothers. silver price dropped like a stone. The $50 price was just an intraday high before they capped the purchases.
https://www.macrotrends.net/1470/historical-silver-prices-100-year-chart
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>>60938301
LCSs I been to generally don't "hold" their stock in a constant upward moving valuation cycle.
They buy 1000 ounces in the morning and by noon it's already being shipped out to their wholesale buyers.
Or walking retail buyers snatch it up
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>>60938348
>I don't like that account. Your better half seems okay with it?
We don't do Juniors. We do companies like Agnico Eagle and Franco Nevada. I will admit that Juniors are where the big money will be. If you choose right the wins could be life changing.
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I did a 4% slurp, right before they increased the price to $459.99. Will post pics whenever the fedex wagie arrives.
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>>60938350
>You think your LCS will be open?
I hope so, and I WILL take a 30:1 deal because it means I received over TWICE as much gold in the end for each dollar spent, than if I had just bought gold originally.

The LCS Jew makes money, I make money, and I converted some (definitely not all) of my bulky silver to compact gold. I can imagine shoving a few gold Maples up my ass, I can't imagine shoving a few hundred oz of silver. Maybe if my girlfriend was Natalie Mars it would be different.
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>>60937312
I've gotten 5oz this way in the last month for about 2-10 bucks under spot depending on the seller. Last time I was there one of the sellers had only labeled one of his ~10 brit 1oz rounds and the people there refused to sell all of them to me because somehow the others could've been differently priced (bullshit, they were all 2015s in exact same condition). If they can't get someone on the phone (like in my case) it can be pretty frustrating but its still worth it.
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>>60937371
I have a bar necklace
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>>60938301
>the hoeflation bubble will pop
Return to tradition.
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>>60938360
Sure, I would take 30 to 1 at a 10 to 1 ratio as well. And you think the dude who has 1,000 ounces of silver waiting for that juicy narrowing of the GSD is gonna walk out with 30 ounces of gold even at a 30 to 1 ratio? No fucking way in hell.

I’d have to imagine that the cherry on top of being a metals dealer is knowing you can fuck off to Turks and Caicos for a couple years as soon as there’s a revaluation. Your fucking retirement is in your store. Why the fuck would you stick around to trade your gold for more silver? Especially when you have plenty of fucking silver as well since you are a coin store owner
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>>60938308
>Could do well but i'm not interested in throwing money at a crap shoot.
With enough work one can reduce the risk, but I don't have the skills. You can't really trust any talking heads because the most corrupt companies will happily pay influencers 10s of thousands to pump their bags.

We're at the age where we DO have savings, but cannot afford to lose them because we're too old to start over from scratch. We'll take lower returns in exchange for minimal risk. Even in a monetary collapse, producing miners can pay their shareholders in certificates redeemable in gold or silver.

How cool is that?
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>>60937861
I bought 200 oz over the last week. I dont know how much I have because I keep it in various different places and forget about them, i still have some buried in my backyard when I schizod out during the covid panic. I also have a bunch of jewelry and silverware scrap.
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>>60938372
>Why the fuck would you stick around to trade your gold for more silver?
Because he's getting silver for a dirt cheap price relative to gold. He can then sell the silver for full retail, and buy even MORE gold. He's doing the same arbitrage, but in reverse.

Yes, he's scalping me by taking an extra generous percentage, skimming the cream off my profit, but we both come out ahead.

You can't usually outjew the Jew, but you can sometimes still make some profit, even if the Jew takes a fat percentage.
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>>60938006
Nah that's a cope. Mike Maloney speculates that 500 oz will be able to buy a house post reset / revaluation.
1 house vs 3 houses is a huge difference in wealth.
People buy silver because of the high gold silver ratio, with the goal of eventually flipping the silver into gold when the ratio gets lower.
Buying gold now is locking you into that amount forever.

Silver is more bullish because as gold increases, it will get more unattainable and intimidating for normies, normies have a weird bias against big valuations, like how normies dont buy btc because its 100k and they dont want to buy fractions, so instead, most prefer to buy shitcoins and meme coins that are "cheaper"
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>>60938391
Do you honestly think the govt wont tip off coin dealers before a revaluation? Sunday night gold gets revalued and coin dealers will just go to work Monday morning like any other day waiting for the probably hundreds of silver stackers ranging from 100 to 1000 ounces of silver per person and exchange all their gold for silver? There won’t even be anywhere near enough gold in any shop to satisfy all the silver coming thru the store EVEN IF it was business as usual (which it won’t be).
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>>60938397
>how normies dont buy btc because its 100k and they dont want to buy fractions, so instead, most prefer to buy shitcoins and meme coins that are "cheaper"
That's a good analogy. Newer shitcoins have a possible higher upside, whereas BTC has matured and the rate of increase has dramatically slowed.
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>>60938405
>Do you honestly think the govt wont tip off coin dealers before a revaluation?
Governments NEVER tip outsiders before a currency devaluation. It would allow the market to frontrun and effectively nullify all the benefits of the devaluation.

Government INSIDERS however, will get the nod and dump their fiatbucks into gold or whatever before the devaluation.
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>>60938044
>why would you rather have $3 million instead of $1 million?
Dude sorry to burst your bubble, but I dont think 500 oz is gonna give you insane fuck you money like you think, this is not a scenerio of having 50 million vs 150 million.
More likely, it's a modest 500k vs. 1.5m scenerio, which is still great from a $10-20k investment. Having a few hundred oz is nothing vs the real richfags who own a bunch of properties and land
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>>60938391
Dude, if you are a coin dealer and you have 20 ounces of gold in your store for sale which = 70k or so. And gold gets revalued to $50,000/oz and now you have 1 million dollars.

You are out. Bye. Gone fishing bro.

Even if you were guaranteed security 1000% going into your store. 0% chance of being harmed. You are still out and gone fishing.
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>>60938220
>If anyone here has friends or relatives that were eager to get vaxxed, try not to tell them about your stack.
I'm fully vaxxed and checking your staxx
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>>60938410
>Having a few hundred oz is nothing vs the real richfags who own a bunch of properties and land
It would put you among the top 10% in your local community, certainly in terms of liquidity. What good is 20 sections of land when the monetary system has collapsed and almost nobody has any gold or silver, but you NEED some gold or silver to buy diesel fuel to farm your sections?

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. In the land where the paper money has died, the man with silver is wealthy, albeit for a relatively short period of time, until the situation normalizes. (60-180 days)
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>>60938418
>I'm fully vaxxed and checking your staxx
Eager? Are you boosted? If so, I only have to outwait you. The odds are ever in my favor.
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>>60938350
Yes. Dealers make money from the buy / sell premium spread, the price of the underlying asset doesn't matter. They buy for 90% and sell for 110%.
Infact, the bigger value the better, the more money they make per transaction.
Theres a bunch of jews in NYC that do this with jewelry, diamonds and luxury watches.
They'll buy a rolex from one jew for $25,000 and then immediately go flip it to the jew down the street for $27,000 and pocket the $2000. Flipping cheap silver oz is actually pretty weak in comparison, only making a couple of bucks profit from each oz.
At $4000 silver they'll just buy for 3900 and sell for 4050
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>>60938410
I was using the 50 million to 150 million net worth difference as an example of the differences between 500 ounces and 1,500 ounces of silver. I wasn’t directly linking them in terms of the 500 ounces stack being equal to someone with a 50 million net worth post reset
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>>60938422
>to buy diesel fuel to farm your sections?
lol

one of my sections is yard
another half section is yard
one section is house
another half section is house

one section is a condo in florida
one section is a condo in cabo
one section is a condo in paradise island

richfags don't farm now and we won't be farming after your reset. Also we don't have a "local community." We're cosmopolitan
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>>60938376
Lots of shilling online for mining stocks right now. Ill stick with my physical.
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How to buy gold or silver without having to KYC, and at the same time be sure you are getting the real thing?
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>>60938406
Normies just cant conceptualize buying 0.02 btc, it just doesnt mesh with the idea of a coin.
Instead they'll buy 200 doge coins for cheap and hope it goes to $100 some day.
Most normies dont even know the price of gold and silver is and they dont have any idea of how much an oz of metal material is.
The only time normies see ozs its normally a bag of weed or potato chips
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>>60938410
>>60938422

Actual richfags who can get a couple thousand ounces quickly don’t matter. First off 90% of them won’t do that. And the ones that do and are able to level up or maintain is irrelevant to a stacker with a couple hundred to 1,000 ounces who will level up big time over your typical American who has no silver but doing fine or more than fine in the current fiat paradigm
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>>60938433
Even Schiffy is pumping miners right now. Holding a small position could pay off but you could also get brutally raped for it. Yet another shell game to keep unaware retards from buying physical.
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>>60938416
You don't have to show me your foreskin, I know you are NOT a Jew.

Jews love MONEY much more than even sex, and especially much more than fishing. He would sell that $1,000,000 gold in a heartbeat for 1.2 million worth of silver. He wouldn't stop rubbing his hands either.

He would hire spics for security because they love shooting niggers, and they work cheaper than whites, and some of them can even be trusted.
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>>60938438
>Even Schiffy is pumping miners right now.
Miners will pay big bucks for an influencer to shill them. The more corrupt the company, the more they will pay their shills.
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There's really no way to predict how much silver will be a make it stack. Whether your stack will be worth 500K,1M or 100M, these are all valued in fiat dollars for which the sky is the limit in terms of devaluation. You count your wealth in ounces, not dollars, for this reason. The more you have the better off you are.
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>>60938437
>First off 90% of them won’t do that
true facts

we don't know what will be valuable in a crisis

might be silver
might be butter
might be bullets
might be wampum
might be bread

hell if we know what to buy

but the fact is you guys don't know either. You might be betting on the right horse, but there's literally thousands of horses so you're probably wrong.
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>>60938445
No I’m saying silver will be valuable but it isn’t like everyone with 500k in the bank is gonna have an epiphany and start buying silver. When push comes to shove I think it’s going to be hard to acquire.
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>>60938422
In any major city 10% of the population are millionaires. Being ahead of normie npcs who live paycheck to paycheck is not any kind of flex, when anyone can already get ahead of them by just not being retarded. Sure a bunch of peoples wealth will likely get evaporated in paper fiat, but many already have other tangible assets besides metals.
I think stocks will be fine, its not like major companies will suddenly disappear. Coca cola is still gonna be doing good in a great depression
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>>60938447
In a true crisis silver and gold become worthless

ask the donner party
they buried their treasure and killed each other for rotten boot leather.
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>>60938437
>Actual richfags who can get a couple thousand ounces quickly don’t matter.
I suspect everyone with a net worth over $50 mil has some exposure to pms, primarily gold. Especially today with the state of the US dollar. It's estimated that there is a 1% allocation into gold by private investors. Historically it was closer to 5%. I suspect that 1% allocation going up daily the last couple of months.
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>>60938441
Yeah, I've heard that those miners pay absurd amounts for JewTubers to shill. Well, I can't really knock their JewTube hustle, especially if those absurd sponsor bucks get transformed into metals. Combining a miner & bullion sponsor is a disgusting side hustle (if you have a somewhat relevant/popular channel ofc).
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>>60938449
>In any major city 10% of the population are millionaires.
this is no longer true since we started counting millionaire's wives and kids as millionaires also.

now you can double that
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>>60938450
I put away a year's worth of food before I even started stacking PMs. Guns, ammo, water filters, etc. Short of nuclear war, the US won't collapse overnight. Gold and silver are still worth having while the dollar and all its derivatives are falling apart. And they'll carry their value after a crisis passes.
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>>60938456
>Short of nuclear war, the US won't collapse overnight

there is no plausible scenario where the US collapses and does NOT get nuked
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>>60938444
>trips of truth

I like to think that having just 3 oz. of Gold is enough to get you around for at least 6 months. Most Americans don't even own a gram...

Pic related is the future
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>>60938431
Well im saying that 500 oz in the future will possibly be equal to having 500k today. Its a good solid amount but you're not gonna be retiring in the Bahamas on a sailboat. Theres a whole lot of other assets that people have besides metals.
I dont think there will ever be a mad max scenerio unless there's crazy nuclear ww3 tier wars.
Theres been plenty of currency collapses throughout history, everyone gets poorer and suffers but there's no complete anarchy with raiders killing everyone and eating babies.
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>>60938457
I'm in a relatively remote area unlikely to be targeted. Even still I have potassium iodide pills on hand.
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>>60938460
since I can pan 3 oz of gold in two months it better get me through a few months.

you guys always fail to look at labor exchange. Almost anywhere in the world a person can pan an ounce of gold every month. It's not going to be hugely valuable because it's no more difficult than farming.
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>>60938462
me to but I don't care. Just saying if we have a civil war or collapse, other nations will certainly step in and finish us.
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>>60938461
A USD collapse would be incredibly destabilizing to the world though because the entire western financial system relies on the dollar as its measuring stick. What do you think backs Canadian dollars, UK pounds, Japanese yen? They're all in the same toxic pool and they'll all collapse along with the dollar.
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>>60938444
>There's really no way to predict how much silver will be a make it stack.
It really depends on one's circumstances. Picture a 65 year old with average intelligence, type 2 diabetes and in a wheelchair. Now picture a 34 year old surgeon. Who needs more precious metals to have a good quality of life?

Let's make it even simpler. Who needs more silver, a 60 year old white collar worker, or a 25 year old handyman/carpenter/mechanic?

If you are young, fit, have some basic real world skills, (or can learn them quickly) have no bad habits (drugs, alcohol) and of good character, you need little to no silver. Someone with either money or land will HIRE YOU, because he can't do it by himself.

Don't think about stacking silver so you can live like a perfumed prince. Stack silver so you are in a position to BUY THE JOB YOU LOVE TO DO. Own your own homestead, buy a small business, get the necessary tools to be a contractor. Buy your way into an apprenticeship.

We will nearly all have to work for the rest of our lives, it's best if we can do something we truly enjoy.
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>>60938468
in chaos the actual currency isn't metal, it's violence

when trading in bullets, old people never make it
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You read about history about how events like World War 1 started because all the countries formed alliances that sucked one another into wars with each other. And you wonder "How can they be so stupid?" The USD is like that. The stability of the world relies on the stability of the dollar right now.
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>>60938468
>BUY THE JOB YOU LOVE TO DO. Own your own homestead, buy a small business, get the necessary tools to be a contractor. Buy your way into an apprenticeship.
also good advice but ALL OF THIS IS AFFORDABLE RIGHT NOW.

like most self-employed contractors have zero budget to start. All you need is clients and knowledge.
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>>60938416
Dealers have to pay rent, have to pay employees, many dealers probably have business loans they use to buy inventory. they only make like $100 for each gold oz sold.
1 million is not very much these days.
Theres jewelry stores with millions in inventory.
Jews in the nyc diamond district have tens of millions in jewelery and watches in their inventory and theyre not retired fishing.
A lot of boomers can retire but they have nothing else to do and like working.
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>>60938445
>we don't know what will be valuable in a crisis
Crisis by definition is short term. Beans, bullets and bullion matter, in that order.

After the crisis is over, gold and silver become crucial because they enable efficient commerce, particularly over time and distance.
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>>60938476
>Crisis by definition is short term
for most it tends to be permanent
that's what makes it a crisis

the problem with prepping is none of us have perfect prophecy. Yes, you can cover the obvious basics, but at the end of the day none of that could matter anyways.
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>>60938476
what scientists and politicians have found is it's better to be adaptable than prepared

someone that can make their own resources is better than someone that has bought a few months worth of resources. And I'm not talking knowing how to hunt or plant crops. The person that can kill a farmer is going to eat better than a farmer.
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That "Civil War" movie last year was a pretty funny glimpse into how stupid Hollywood writers are about geopolitics. That gas station scene where they pull up and offer like $200 for a tank of gas and the gas station guys laugh and say that won't even buy them half a sandwich, implying the US dollar collapsed. Then they say the $200 is Canadian and the guys immediately shut up and take it. Canada would be in it just as bad if not worse if the US dollar collapsed. At least the US (supposedly) has gold reserves, whereas Canada has none. They would be full on Mad Max levels of fucked.
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>>60938444
Trips checked.

The question about how much you need to 'make it' depends on personal factors. The concept of metals being a hedge is, however many ounces are needed to buy x now should be the same amount in any future regardless of where fiat goes.
My take is to figure out exactly how much in expected expenses for six months I have, add a "comfortable" buffer for my lifestyle and local economy, and figure out how that translates to ounces of the metal(s) of my choice (Au, Pt, Ag, Cu). That should sustain me for the worst of whatever midden hits the windmill. Use the current prices for your PM(s) of choice to figure out how many ozt of each or a mix. Real-life numbers: I need $4k/month, so $24k in metals of choice.
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>>60938490
at that point no amount of paper would buy fuel, but violence might
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>>60938490
also the idea of negotiating instead of killing is pure fantasy. Laughable bullshit.
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>>60938449
>In any major city 10% of the population are millionaires.
Most of that is real estate equity which WILL get evaporated. Stocks aren't fine if you bought them 75-90% from the top and the market corrects 80% and stays down for 20 years. The last 40 years has been a totally artificial stock market bubble driven by Federal Reserve artificially low interest, and then when that wasn't enough, multiple ongoing rounds of QE.

Almost no one investing today has ANY IDEA of what a real correction is, or how many decades they typically take from peak to peak.

Imagine losing 75% of your equity and having to wait 30 YEARS to break even. (nominally, not inflation adjusted)

From the 1929 peak, it took until 1955 to get to the same level. Adjusting for inflation it took until the 1980s.

I would sooner be on the Ukrainian frontline than be invested in the mag7 right now. I'd have less chance of losing my ass.
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>>60938494
and honestly if you're going to murder people for a few gallons of gas you don't need to stack metals. That's true right now and it'll be even more true in a collapse.
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>>60938450
>In a true crisis silver and gold become worthless
Lifeboat ethics is a flawed model, which is why EVERY stacker should have beans and bullets alongside their bullion.

Lifeboat ethics by definition are only relevant during a short term life threatening crisis. This is not the case for most of our existence otherwise we would be extinct.

Imagine you're on a lifeboat with three other people. Each one of you has a gallon of drinking water and some lifeboat food. One of the people on the boat has 4 ounces of gold. You may not get rescued for seven days. You will die of thirst without water in 3 days.

Would you sell your gallon of water for 4 ounces of gold? I wouldn't.

Once things begin to normalize, people begin to engage in TRADE. Gold and silver have been universal trade goods for THOUSANDS of years. Most trade will be commodities barter. People with some gold or silver will be able to buy a homestead, buy more land, buy machinery, or loan it to a neighbor who can be trusted. (((for a small fee perhaps))))
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>>60938490
>Canada would be in it just as bad if not worse if the US dollar collapsed.
How so? They have their own currency, own economy, own natural resources, own trading partners, and alliances.
They might hurt a bit because the US wouldn't have the money to buy from Canada though.
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>>60938499
>Lifeboat ethics by definition are only relevant during a short term life threatening crisis.
yes, but for a significant percentage of lifeboat occupants, this crisis becomes PERMANENT

you're betting you'll survive the lifeboat. This bet gets longer and longer every year you age. Most of you are already too old to survive a crisis.

some 17 year old with a gun is going to end you for a cabbage
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>>60938500
>They have their own currency, own economy, own natural resources, own trading partners, and alliances.
The Canadian currency is an inferior derivative of the Federal Reserve Note, and 90% of our trade is with the USA. If the USA goes down, Canada crashes even harder.

Alberta & Saskatchewan will be part of the USA by that time however, so I don't care what happens to the rest of Canada.
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>>60938512
>Alberta & Saskatchewan will be part of the USA by that time however
like we want it

all respect to our canadian neighbors, but your land is shit.
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>>60938512
Western and upstate NY would secede from downstate jewyork.
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>>60938520
the cities have enough able bodies to steamroll the rural areas in a week

but if they really fuck it up it could take a couple years like last time.
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>>60938512
>The Canadian currency is an inferior derivative of the Federal Reserve Note
??? The Canadian dollar is the fifth-most held reserve currency in the world, and has nothing to do with the US monetary system. Its value is derived from how popular the currency is around the world. If the US really needs to pay Canada, the US could pay in gold.
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>>60938435
depends on where you live
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>>60938515
>all respect to our canadian neighbors, but your land is shit.
You have no idea what you are talking about. We have more oil than Saudi Arabia. We have natural gas, coal, potash, uranium, helium and water, not to mention a contguous land bridge to Alaska becomes trivial.

America would not allow herself to kneecapped by your lack of knowledge. Seriously, how old are you?
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>>60938525
The US has collapsed before and Canada went down with us. All of the world did

our last depression and couple recessions crashed canada and the world
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>>60938529
>We have more oil than Saudi Arabia. We have natural gas, coal, potash, uranium, helium and water
as do we

a land bridge to alaska already exists and it's still much cheaper to fly or float.
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>>60938525
>The Canadian dollar is the fifth-most held reserve currency in the world, and has nothing to do with the US monetary system.
The Canadian dollar has EVERYTHING to do with the US dollar. If our dollar appreciates relative to the US dollar, our exports to our biggest trading partner collapse, and so does our economy.
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>>60938464
>Almost anywhere in the world a person can pan an ounce of gold every month.
Then why don't they?
An income of $3600 a month (nearly $1000 a week) is many times the income in most countries, so why don't you see hordes of people swarming the rivers to pan for Gold in the third world?
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>>60938524
>the cities have enough able bodies to steamroll the rural areas
Lol sure, but logistics win wars and cities rely on rural areas for food
Post hands with timestamp
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>>60938524
How are you going to get them there? By walking?
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>>60938535
>Then why don't they?
we do
>so why don't you see hordes of people swarming the rivers to pan for Gold in the third world?
because you don't pay attention to what people do in the third world?

also it's not selling for $3600/oz in brazil or philippines or africa or thailand
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>>60938472
>All you need is clients and knowledge.
And a bunch of expensive as fuck licenses, bonds and permits.
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>>60938536
>Lol sure, but logistics win wars and cities rely on rural areas for food
>Post hands with timestamp
what do you want on your timestamp?
>>60938540
>By walking?
last time we used railroads.
next time we'll use buses, planes and boats
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>>60938542
>And a bunch of expensive as fuck licenses, bonds and permits.
license $50
bond, $10/month
permits, $100???? depends on the job
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>>60938531
>a land bridge to alaska already exists and it's still much cheaper to fly or float.
What on earth are you talking about. In order to drive to Alaska from CONUS you have to cross TWO international borders.

Ship is cheaper than rail for some bulk goods. Rail/Truck are faster and more cost effective for other goods.

If CONUS is so great, and you have everything you need. why not sell Alaska back to Russia?

>He's not smart enough to want land that produces net over 30 billion per year surplus with a population of under 6 million people.
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>>60938530
And since then, safeguards and warning systems have been established to avoid or mitigate such interdependence, no?

>>60938534
>The Canadian dollar has EVERYTHING to do with the US dollar.
I think you're confusing trade with the currency. The relationship is through trade. It's not like the two currencies are locked. It's asynchronous, not synchronous. Yes, if the USD goes down, Canada can buy a lot more from the US. Yes, that means it would be harder for the US to buy from Canada, but that's what all the gold in Fort Knox is for, right?
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>>60938549
take a poll, nobody in the US wants canada.

I don't care what mineral wealth you have, drilling and mining is the lowest tier of industry in the US. Pays good but makes up like 8% of our GDP

for you and russia it's ALL YOU HAVE.
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>>60938551
>safeguards and warning systems have been established to avoid or mitigate such interdependence, no?
kek

hold my beer
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>>60938535
>so why don't you see hordes of people swarming the rivers to pan for Gold in the third world?
Not every river has gold in it, and many that do aren't amenable to hand panning. They require powered sluice operations.

But it will certainly happen when gold gets high enough, and the evironmental devastation caused by third worlders recklessly panning in North American rivers will trigger legal crackdowns and the outlawing of panning for everyone.
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>>60938541
>also it's not selling for $3600/oz in brazil or philippines or africa or thailand
Is it selling for more or is it selling for less?
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>>60938545
Timestamp, date and time.
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>>60938559
much less on the ground.

but you need a small army and lots of guns to get it cheap
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>>60938536
>Lol sure, but logistics win wars and cities rely on rural areas for food
Cities won't be raiding the countryside for food when there is a crisis, the cities will burn and cannibalism will ensue. City leaders and wealthy will flee. The city might send police to loot nearby farms. That might buy them a couple of weeks. Once word gets out, the next police raiders will get taken out by varmit hunters at 600 meters or coyote hunters with thermal scopes.
https://youtu.be/UAW93dkMCfk
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>>60938555
Trips checked.
I assume you mean, "Yes, safeguards are in place, but I don't believe they'll work."
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>>60938560
show me your skin little girl
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>>60938572
I mean we're about to find out
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>>60938577
Fair 'nuff.
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>>60938563
>much less on the ground.
>but you need a small army and lots of guns to get it cheap
What on earth does that even mean?

Much less on the ground, be specific? Can I go to a retail vender and buy gold for LESS than $3600? If so, how much less?

I will go there with money, buy gold, bring it back west, sell it for more money then lather, rinse, and repeat.

It's called arbitrage, but in actuality, I think you are full of baloney. We'll call you Mike Baloney, because if there was ANY significan delta, the arbitrage would already be happening, EVEN IF IT NECESSITATED SMUGGLING.
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>>60938579
I hope you're right. I'm not confident but I do hope
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>>60938580
>the arbitrage would already be happening, EVEN IF IT NECESSITATED SMUGGLING.
that's exactly what's happening

and the smugglers WILL KILL YOU
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>>60938444
If silver (or gold) is going to mop up all the fake credit fiat wealth that implodes coupled with the fact that very few people own silver (gold) you really aren’t going to need as much as you think to make it. If you need 5,000 ounces of silver to make it. Then nobody is going to make it and it won’t matter.

Also we have references i.e. a Roman Denarius as pay for a soldier daily. Which is what? About the size of a silver dime? So even 10 ounces is a half years worth of wages. Which certainly doesn’t put you in make it territory but it gives you enough breathing room.
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>>60938584
I've got more than 10 ounces I picked up off the ground a couple months ago. The problem with super valuable gold or silver is you can still go pick the shit up for free
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>>60938573
>girl
Lol no
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>>60938587
I don't see a timestamp but i'll take your word for it because I don't need to see any more of that shit
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>>60938551
>I think you're confusing trade with the currency.
I think you don't understand international trade. Relative currency valuations are intimately linked to trade. Google "Dutch Disease" and get back to me.
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>>60938590
>Google "Dutch Disease" and get back to me.
this is why I lurk here

thanks, learned a thing today
the concept isn't new to me, but the name is
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>>60938583
>and the smugglers WILL KILL YOU
Why would the smugglers kill me if I'm buying retail gold from a store for below western market price. Are there gangsters lurking outside shops to prevent customers from buying gold?
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>>60938589
>I don't see a timestamp
Learn to read IDs it's right here >>60938560
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>>60938596
>Are there gangsters lurking outside shops to prevent customers from buying gold?
yes

are you stupid?

if I have a source that sells me gold for half price do you think I want anyone else buying there?

you don't understand third world economics. It's guns, not your stupid made up retard rules

go to brazil and buy gold for $1k per ounce and you'll be dead in minutes
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I want more ASEs but don't like the premium nor pay tax on them, so I simply don't buy silver :(
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>>60938599
I meant a timestamp of your skin.

it's ok, I don't actually care what color you are.
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>>60938593
>the concept isn't new to me, but the name is
The Dutch gas fields produced so much revenue that they cause the Dutch Guilder to rise so high that Hollands exports all became uncompetitive and her domestic industries (other than the gas production) were at risk of collapsing.

But currency has nothing to do with international trade according on another anon on the /pmg/
>rolleyes
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>>60938606
the US is the exact same story. We are victims of our own success. Poor US
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>>60938600
>are you stupid?
I'm not gullible. Your story is not credible. You have a "secret" source where you can buy gold for half price, and it's the common retail price in that country, but only you and the gangsters can buy gold at retail in that country, they won't let anyone else buy gold there.

Nevermind. I think I preferred IQJeet
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>>60938600
>Go to brazil and buy gold for 1k an ounce
Entirely fictional narrative made in your head where they just kill and eat people in brazil or something, they run TV documentaries there of americans mining the rivers. There are american mining operations in the amazon, small and large, and gold isn't anywhere close to 1k an ounce there, it goes for market value and ONLY is cheap like that if it's some jungle retard who doesn't know its worth who hasn't even made the sale to the first link in the chain - the wholesale buyer.

You're taking about a fake scenario and entirely misrepresenting what's actually happening - some local who doesn't have any other way to sell X product in the third world might get exploited by some merchant, who buys it for cheap from them, same thing happens with cocoa and coffee and other cash crops. It's one singular transaction that happens this way directly from the miners, it's not the going rate for said product in said country.
>>60938612
>It's the common retail price in said country
This is where it falls apart, gold is the same price in Brazil as in the USA, but might be cheaper if you're some guy whos entire business is buying the chunks of it the locals extract, if they have no means of selling it for more. Said buyers know the value and immediately make it cost that much.
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>>60938602
I actually hate ASE's and have only bought them in occasional for-spot deals that pop up.
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>>60938612
>>60938621
Yes, I'm sure you guys know everything and there's a fucking well's fargo in the jungle making sure gold sells exactly for spot and nobody gets robbed

anyways, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing because even you retards aren't this stupid.
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>>60938628
What's your favorite bullion issued by a sovereign government?
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>>60938633
>What's your favorite bullion issued by a sovereign government?
Maples, by price and availability. Britannias are quite attractive, I would prefer the ones that feature the Queen.

Eagles are nice.
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gold needs to sky rocket already.
im tired of working!
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>>60937311
I paid your sister a silver quarter to suck me off on a saturday night.
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>>60938364
>I have a bar necklace
Looks like a tiny PAMP.
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>>60938436
>Normies just cant conceptualize buying 0.02 btc, it just doesnt mesh with the idea of a coin.
>Instead they'll buy 200 doge coins for cheap and hope it goes to $100
Same philosophy with penny stocks, versus $400 for one share of Nvidia or whatever. A penny stock can do a ten bagger, Nvidia not so much at this point.
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>>60937293

Crypto Fanboy Blues
(an empty pocket blues ballad)

Oh, crypto fanboys, chasin’ dreams so wild,HODLin’ Bitcoin like a greedy child!New tulips craze, they swear it’s the way,But gold’s still shinin’ while their coins decay!
Chorus:Pump it, dump it, watch it crash and burn,Gold’s been king since the world did turn!Quick bucks, big dreams, they don’t understand,Crypto’s just code, not a magic land!
They yell “To the moon!” with a manic grin,But wallets get hacked, and the losses begin.Blockchain’s a puzzle they don’t comprehend,Just prayin’ the line chart will never descend!
Chorus:Pump it, dump it, watch it crash and burn,Gold’s been king since the world did turn!They tweet “LFG!” with their laser-eyed memes,But gold don’t crash when the server screams!
No miner’s fee for a nugget’s gleam,While Bitcoin’s dreams sink in a coding stream.Fanboys keep chasin’ that get-rich-quick high,But gold’s still laughin’ as their tulips die!
Outro:So raise a glass to the crypto clowns,Gold keeps its crown while their coins go down!
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>>60938633

Krugers all the way.
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>>60938612

Kek. What a bullshitter.
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>>60938606

There is a solution to that but you need to be free of climate psychos. You sell your energy at home for under cost. Energy is the first input when considering competitiveness.
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>>60938468
You sound like some retarded boomer who still think it's the 1970's or some shit.
If precious metals are real money, then who the fuck ever said that any certaint demographic NEEDS more money than any other?
Why the fuck would any 20yo zoomer willingly not want to stack money or make any sort of meaningful investments if that means potentially growing for retirement in the future?
>hurr durr you're young and lm old so you need to work for me forever.
Nigger.
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I think im gonna skip my next silver purchase and get some platinum and palladium ozs
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>>60938687
Yeah it's a 5g bar
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>>60938727

You may not like this. But it’s going to become increasingly unwise to flaunt you have any sort of interest in gold or might be in possession of some appreciable quantity. Keep it to yourself.
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>>60938726
why
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>>60938715
Holland used the profits from the gas field to diversify and strengthen their economy and assist in making their other export industries more competitive. It worked.

Holland became the number one exporter of food in Europe, in part thanks to the fertilizer produced from natural gas.
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>>60938724
Since reading comprehension isn't your thing, maybe you oould get AI to read that post and summarize it in a way that a 5 year old could understand. Then you would have less cause to publicly embarrass yourself.

The original question was how much silver does one need. How about what vehicle does one need?

I say your vehicle needs depend on your context. Are you a single urban professional living in a condo with tiny underground parking stalls? Are you a self employed plumber? Do you have a large family? The type of vehicle is determined by ones circumstances and context for use.

>Hur dur, who do you think you are telling me what kind of vehicle I should have, blah blah blah, stupid boomer...
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>>60938778
based boomer
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>>60938265
You have good points imo
I prefer gold but people should buy what they enjoy.
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>>60938364
Dope
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>>60938397
I’m not under any illusion that silver can’t gain more than gold. But gold is a solid rock sure thing. I’m not looking at %’s gained in terms of fiat (in today current fiat paradigm). If gold is re-valued to $50,000/oz it might really be like having $200,000 in today’s world after the wealth shift away from everyone else.

And like I’ve said above I think that narrowing of the GSR is going to be a lot more fucking complicated than people think. Dealers won’t have the gold on hand and you aren’t going to get anywhere near the ratio of what it actually is.

I just think people with 90% silver and 10% gold are taking an unnecessary risk. And you are much better served being around 50/50 gold silver to 80/20 gold to silver.
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People starting off saying they're saving in gold and silver, hedging against inflation, being their own bank, saving for retirement or to for generational wealth.
But the argue about which "investment" is better and will make them rich.
This is speculating and it can go a lot if ways.
I just collect gold and a little silver.
If anyone thinks they're a genius going all in on one or tge other...you might be I don't know.
But getting mad someone mentions it might be smart to have a diverse stack is silly imo.
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>>60938822

Consider also the fact it’s something in motion through time. I would agree roughly on your ration. But IF I WAS heavy in silver. I’d keep in mind that when it does make that run from a ratio to gold point of view. You use that lever to swap out the silver heavy to gold heavy ratio later. Thus gaining more gold than you would have by just selling some portion of your silver. But that requires tracking and keeping an eye on things. If you can’t be bothered don’t. I’m at 4/1 GtoS.

And it doesn’t stop there. This is capital rotation. Later after all this blows over. You rotate into repriced stocks shares and ETFs at fair price points who might even pay dividends for a change and you see down some of your gold silver to do this. And on and on. If we don’t go full fucking collapse mode that is.

Silver has got to rise. There’s a huge shortfall to demand just for the industrial uses.
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>>60938807
>silver bar
perth mint?
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>>60938838
>getting mad someone mentions it might be smart to have a diverse stack is silly
trvke
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>>60938864
Yes:)
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>>60938867
i'm thinking about getting one
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>>60938865
It's a commodity moron. You should be mad you fell for a scam and can't afford tendies
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>>60938885
Can recommend.
I'm buying gold in a month or 2 and usually add an oz of silver as a novelty item what with the 20% tax here.
The Perth mint bars are a nice little bar in hand:)
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>>60938126
>But if you dumbfucks don’t think there’s a real possibility that silver doesn’t go along with gold for the ride then you are playing with fire.
The historic and mining ratios of 1:8 and 1:15 will pull silver and gold together to prevent the arbitrage. We hit 100:1 last spring, if the price moved to 150:1 I think gold would get liquidated quite quickly to cash it in for silver. If anything the GSR will collapse, not widen.
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>>60938920
Pmg baggies luv them some VAT to go with the coin merchants premiums
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>>60939012
In my country at least you get the bar VAT premium back when you sell. Nobody's selling bars for less.
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I have some much trust in the ratios and GSR I'm happy to just 2 oz silver with 20%tax for every 1oz gold.
See cause they're both equally valuable I should drop it to 1 oz each.
See this logic doesn't add up trouble is it's all speculation where gold and silver are going.
Still if it wasn't so taxed here I would buy more silver too desu.
One schizo idea what if they remonetize gold and start dealing with it globally with instead of paper promisary notes digital ones. And simply keep silver down as an industrial metal.
I'm not saying this will happen or is possible, but you see such a scenario would kick all ratios and gsr bets out the windows.
Again it's speculating.
I don't even think it's a great plan to speculate on gold making you rich gold and silver should be held as stores of value in any scenario they can't hurt to have
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I just think the fren saying if you have 1-300oz silver it's probably a good idea to have or add 1,3 or 10 oz gold makes perfect sense.
Instead he gets a hard time of people freaking out about how silver is the only way and it's going to the moon.
Yeah it might do but I'll keep focusing on gold. The thing all banks are buying.
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>>60937849
Good points. What seems to me fundamental is this: a physical commodity market would need daylight hours to conduct business. Tokenization is a wonderful idea but seems just another dimension of fractional reserve dynamics.
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>>60938911
>afford tendies
Neither can you. That's why every pic you post is a screenshot. Because they're stolen from someone else.
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>>60939039

The BRICS settlement system which is already in action is essentially a settlement clearing house using gold and globally distributed vaults to conduct trade transactions. Gold monetisation is already beginning. Each country would then as before manage its rate curve by managing its reserves which is how it used to be. Of course the west will do anything they can to wreck it. Because it will tank the de facto world reserve of US Treasuries. No more exporting away your inflation. No more funny money for constant wars and meddling and financing of the NGO apparatus used to destabilise places willy nilly.

TLDR the west will need to get back to work and stop the gibs in a world where the dollar devaluation comes home to bite.
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>>60939100
I hope so bro I'm just concerned the juden bank system is so entrenched even in the brick systems they will simply align it to the current system and keep it rolling with some behind the scenes power shifts.
I hope not though.
Whatever happens gold and silver will hold value not in the sense they have to make you rich, but a certain amount of each will still buy you food, a car, a home etc.
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>>60938633
Leafs because of their amazingly low premiums - cheaper than many rounds even in BU condition - and krugs for how they look.
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>>60939100
Because they represent that work we'll need to do more of in the west again*
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>>60939100
I think the west will also be forced to issue a gold-backed currency in order to trade internationally. But I also think that when the dollar takes its final plunge, silver will step in as the fungible medium of exchange unless and until the government issues a gold-backed currency.
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>>60939118
>gold-backed currency
Always leads back to fiat. It needs to be bu-metallic.
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>>60939131
>bu-metallic
*bi-matellic
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>>60939135
>>bu-metallic
>*bi-matellic
Kek-tellic
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>>60939138
buy metal
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>>60938781
>based boomer
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>>60938822
>If gold is re-valued to $50,000/oz it might really be like having $200,000 in today’s world after the wealth shift away from everyone else.
Both gold and silver will approach infinity as the US dollar goes to zero. Unlike gold, silver is essential to make things work, unlike gold, silver is needed. There is an argument that silver could conceivably be worth more than gold under certain circumstances, not unlike how nickel was worth more than silver during WW2.

Fun facts about gold in modern warfare:
-gold makes the best EFP (explosively formed projectiles)
-a gold salted nuclear weapon creates intense but extremely short lived (2 weeks) radioactive contamination for short term area denial
-a gold container called an urchin was used in the fat man nuclear bomb to shield the polonium ibased neutron initiator prior to detonation
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notice how the day of extremely articulate, pervasive, and quick to reply “buy gold not silver” fud iq is mysteriously absent :thonk:
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>>60938838
>I just collect gold and a little silver.
Each one has it's own unique strengths and weaknesses.
Gold is higher value, easier to verify by density, distinctive appearance. much more portable.

Silver has more uses, is more convenient for smaller purchases when used as money. I drink water treated with colloidal silver every day.

Each of them has their place and I like them both and will always keep both on hand.
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>>60938822
>And you are much better served being around 50/50 gold silver to 80/20 gold to silver.
Are you talking monetary ratio or by weight?
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>>60939131
Bi-metallic also led to the fiat we have now. No system is inherently immune to corruption. Only eternal vigilance can preserve liberty and humans are not yet capable of that. So the cycle will continue. But we may live to see the end of the existing corrupt system and the dawn of a refreshed system that might last a generation or two..
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>>60939184
You are the man!
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>>60938920
>I'm buying gold in a month or 2 and usually add an oz of silver as a novelty item what with the 20% tax here.
Europe? The 20% VAT is one of the main justifications for someone to primarily buy gold rather than silver. In Bulgaria, (20% VAT on bullion) despite there being no VAT on sovereign mint coins, silver coins still have a relatively high premium, where gold coins are competitive with prices here in Canada, so If I lived there, I would almost exclusively stack gold coins.
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>>60939004
>if the price moved to 150:1 I think gold would get liquidated quite quickly to cash it in for silver.
If the GSR hit 150:1, I would be trading physical gold for silver myself. I would do it at 120:1, and I was sorely tempted at 100:1.
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>>60939037
>In my country at least you get the bar VAT premium back when you sell. Nobody's selling bars for less.
That's kind of cool. Do you have to sell as a registered corporation with a tax number, or does this apply to individuals? Do you have to remit the net VAT difference (ie you pay VAT when silver is $30 and sell it when it's $40) to the government?
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>>60939072
>Tokenization is a wonderful idea but seems just another dimension of fractional reserve dynamics.
It absolutely is at very high risk of fractional reserve fraud, and history suggest there will always be some who will do it. The main advantages for tokenization are the facilitation of e-commerce without going through the banking system and evading border restrictions/taxes on wealth transfer when travelling/moving.

The 24 hour realtime gold/silver market would just be a beneficial side effect. The bottom line is always: If you don't hold it, you don't own it.
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>>60939219
These losers have been wrong about the gsr for 10 years but still larp as experts
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>>60939037
>In my country at least you get the bar VAT premium back when

LMAO, nothing dumber or broker than a stacktard >>60939235
The idiot is claiming dealers will buy silver at spot plus vat, what a maroon
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>>60939100
>The BRICS settlement system which is already in action is essentially a settlement clearing house using gold and globally distributed vaults to conduct trade transactions.
Correct. It's not yet 100% complete, but the basics are already in place, and reportedly, the parts that are working, work much better, faster and cheaper than SWIFT. Possibly within a year it will be complete and be superior to SWIFT in every way.

China still has to build out the network of SGE vaults around the world for physical redemption. The US Federal Reserve Note will go away much faster than the geriatric US politicians are capable of believing.
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>>60939118
>I think the west will also be forced to issue a gold-backed currency in order to trade internationally.
No modern government will voluntarily go back to a hard money standard. Hard money prevents deficit financing, stops politicians from buying votes, and makes large scale warfare unaffordable.

If we go back to hard money, it's because the corrupt generations of politicians have all been lynched or jailed, and governments had literally no alternative but to go back to metal because everyone refuses paper credit.

Gold WILL be the world reserve asset, and will be the basis for net settlement of trade deficits at some point going forward, but I believe that local fiat currencies will keep a floating gold price until they devalue down to nothing.
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>>60939267
China isn't stacking gold to make necklaces. They are going to make a run at replacing the USD as the international trade and reserve currency.
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>>60939135
>>60939131
The fundamental problem with a bi-metallic standard is you can't have a fixed price ratio between two different commodities, if that price ratio differs ANYWHERE else in the world.

Imagine your country sets a 1:15 GSR, but another country sets a 1:16 GSR. That means 15 ounces in one country buys one oz of gold, but 16 oz in the second country buys one oz of gold. I would buy an ounce of gold in country one, sell it in country two and go back to country one with my 16 ounces of silver, buy another ounce of gold, rinse and repeat until I had drained all the gold from country one.

This is called arbitrage. You CAN have a bi-metalllic standard if:
1. your prices float in one of the metals.
2. if the coins have a "fiat" value significantly in excess of the metal content of the coin.

For example, the Soviets made counterfeit 1923 Mercury dimes and smuggled them into the USA. The alloy was a perfect match for the real Mercury dimes, but the silver content was worth much less than 10 cents at the time, so the Soviets made a profit. Ironically, those counterfeit dimes are worth a fortune to collectors today.
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>>60939199
>metallic also led to the fiat we have now.
America was a better place when the Dollar was 371.25 grains of fine silver.
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>>60939287
>They are going to make a run at replacing the USD as the international trade and reserve currency.
I agree. This will be a terrible shock to Americans when they wake up one morning and the Federal Reserve Note almost overnight went from a golden ticket, to just another shitty international fiat.

It will be a very painful wake up call.
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>>60939322
>>60939287
It's happening right now.
https://x.com/GraphCall/status/1967202577940140529
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>>60939207
Exactly. Netherlands here and as another anon said you can get some premium back when reselling but gold is an easier option.
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>>60939184
I absolutely agree. I prefer gold but collect some silver too.
Plus pic related is about 7.5kg of Dutch junk silver I thought you guys might enjoy:D
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>>60939287
>China isn't stacking gold to make necklaces.
I should point out that no one wants to torpedo the US system yet. Everyone still has vested interests trapped in the Dollar/Treasury markets. China still owns an estimated 700 million in Treasuries. They are carefully selling them as fast as they can without risking a crash.

When the time is right, the dollar will become an optional, and less preferred alternative to the gold based reserve assets. China does not want the Yuan to become a reserve currency. They realize any reserve currency causes Triffin's dilemma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triffin_dilemma
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>>60939358
>Plus pic related is about 7.5kg of Dutch junk silver I thought you guys might enjoy:D
72% silver content?
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>>60939366
All these financial experts of pmg,,,,yet all broke wagies,,,,,lmao how can that be?
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>>60939383
>how can that be?
Despite your dedication, you seem to have zero capacity to influence anyone here.
Captcha: XTR AG
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Just bought another two tubes of mercs so expect a pullback for the next week or so.
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central bankers tongue my anus
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>>60939370
Yeah:)
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>>60938006
I have to agree with this one. More money is good, but theres a point to be made about being content with what youve got, especially if silver doubles or triples in value
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>>60939412
>More money is good, but theres a point to be made about being content with what youve got, especially if silver doubles or triples in value
Everyone should have a balanced portfolio, that includes your personal physical health, some stored food in case of supply chain crisis/disruption, and a safe community where people are willing to help and protect each other, should government services falter.

A big stack of gold coins won't help you in Chicago if the power goes out and the city starts to burn.
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>>60939408
>central bankers tongue my anus
You would like it if this central banker milf did it to you.
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>>60938496
lmao
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>>60939306
This arbitrage mechanism has existed for thousands os years. When Cesar took power he reformed the monetary system and set a GSR of 1:12. In the east, in India and China the GSR was about 1:6. Whoever controlled the land bridges between Europe and Asia controlled the gold trade and would profit of this arbitrage. I made an effort post about this there’s a screencap floating around. Point is, this arbitrage mechanism will always exist as long as such entity as government exists. They will leverage this arbitrage to their benefit.
I agree that you need a floating exchange rate to ensure greshams law dosent push out one of the monies but I have not found historical examples of this.
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>>60938006
I’ll be at 800oz/7oz by eoy. It’s not about how wealthy I may be in the new world, it’s about killing the current order as fast as possible. Extracting my wealth from that system accomplishes that. Stacking is not a passive act of self insurance, we are in open rebellion against the status quo.
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>>60939458
>I agree that you need a floating exchange rate to ensure greshams law dosent push out one of the monies but I have not found historical examples of this.
You are 100% correct. The issue is BOTH are extremely useful, even essential, but each has different strengths and is more appropriate for use in different contexts.

When we travel internationally, we like to carry gold Maples as emergency money on our person. They are high value, compact, liquid worldwide. Gold works well for high value small volume.

We stack and use silver Maples as gifts for family and friends. We don't use silver as money yet, because, we follow Gresham's law, and spend the devaluing fiat in preference to the appreciating silver.

Having a unified system would be ideal, but the laws of nature and the free market make a fixed GSR impossible. Given a choice, I would make the currency silver, and let gold float, simply because day to day commerce is much more amenable to the smaller values that are more appropriate for silver sized coinage. As I've mentioned before, Goldbacks offer a potential alternative to small denomination spendable gold as currency, but it's a proprietary solution with a high seigniorage.

I would happily live with it however. Gold coins however, aren't suitable for everyday commerce as they are both too valuable for average purchases, and too small in my opinion, which makes risk of loss very high when handling.
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>>60938545
> buses
wouldn't you just shoot those? like, find a bus on a highway, speed pass, pull over, get out, unload the frt rifle into bus, do it again, and again, get back in car, drive away
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>>60939473
Good job, work your way up to 140,000 ounces of silver to finally make it... keep waging for Peter Schiff!
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>>60939458
Nah we like fiat, rocks are for losers
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>>60939500
or even, if we're talking rural, wouldn't you just basically be able to trap all those buses in kill zones? probably have a buddy that can tow stuff, right? and rural roads are how many lanes typically? block road ahead of bus, light bus us, done
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>>60939507
>we like fiat
Imagine being retarded, on purpose.
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>>60939473
I think a critical point for anyone with cash reserves in a bank, or even under the Mattress, or money in certain stocks,...
A real crash in dollar value of stock values can very well wipeout a person's wealth.
So what if I have $million dollars in the bank if they turn in to Zimbabwe dollars.
Or if the banks or govt freezes or sizes my deposits for whatever trumped up reason.

Better to have majority of your wealth placed in some real physical tangible asset like gold, silver, real estate, something
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>>60939515
I used my fiat to make 1200% since Jan 2024. Lmao you are trapped in rocks,,,I win you lose

>Bbbbbut 1792
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>>60939525
>tangible

Lmao peter Schiff conned you, ngmi
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>>60938529
>. We have natural gas, coal, potash, uranium, helium and water,
Not to mention the vast reserves of maple syrup deposits
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>>60939536
You always have Peter schiff on your mind and in your mouth, gayboi
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>>60939473
>Extracting my wealth from that system
wealth cannot be extracted
the money you spent on PMs will be used by someone who sold you PMs, and it will likely end up in the markets or treasuries, helping the system
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>>60939525
The chairman of the federal reserve said it himself that the system depends on being able to steal your value. The banks can probably play games and kick the can for a long time if they have international cooperation to ease the pain. Even though our contributions to the economy may seem small, the banks can't play their games if we don't participate. Some of our contributions are compulsory such as social security, and much of it comes under threat from the healthcare system. But the rest we are willingly buying in. Stocks, 401ks etc are all opportunities for them to recycle their toxic IOUs. Remember, Wallstreet can't just be the only players. The economy doesn't work if it is just Blackrock. We are the fuel that they eat. And by buying silver we are effectively "drawing down" against the ponzi scheme. They lose the momentum they need to keep the grift going. And they don't actually magically demand that silver is $20-40. Once enough of the plebs starts walking away they will be FORCED to throw the ponzi in the trash. Because the system allows them to CONSUME your time and labor and capital. Once you start taking it off the table and stop participating they no longer have the momentum. Once the paper-ponzi runs out of steam they'll go into musical chairs mode and wait a generation to start the next debt-fueled mania in the East. (Hopefully the Chinese are smart enough to not allow the tribe to get a foothold)
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>>60939536
Peter Schiff wasn't wrong, just early.
>tangible is a trigger word for the bot
That's right. Selling your credit IOUs for the real deal is not physically possible by everyone on the planet. That's why it is such a threat. Paper millionaires can easily have their wealth stolen because they still see the credit-assets earning them interest and dividends. Banks can't print physical silver and hence why it is a danger as people become aware of the escape hatch. This is why you never stop stacking.
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>>60939617
>>60939607
Word salad from brokies
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>>60939639
You are such a faggot
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>>60939662
It's a pajeet-bot
It can't refute anything so it is just dismissive. Very lazy 3rd world coding.
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>>60939666>>60939662

How much yall lost on garbage rocks?
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It's funny that after ten years of pmg they are still incel, still broke but more bitter
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>>60939684
>still seething
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>>60939219
I did a trade at 100/1 on silver and 3/1 on platinum.
I'm not hating my trade.
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I got rich buying silver
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>>60939678
Someone is really assmad about you buying silver. What a grump!
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>>60939699
Yep pmg baggies can't stop seething>>60939734
Lmao, waging for rocks they buy f5om their enemies
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>>60939512
>if we're talking rural, wouldn't you just basically be able to trap all those buses in kill zones?
Yes. in times of collapse, we set up roadblocks/checkpoints with spikebelts (chains with sharpened rebar welded crosswise every few links) on roads leading into the village/town. The guard post has radio/hardwire field telephone communications with the community. If shooting starts, sniper posts get activated and nobody unauthorized comes within 400 meters of the community.

The procedures (TTPs) are well documented and rehearsed.
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>>60939746
You should thank him, you claimed (lied) for 10 years that you bought because he proved silver was a scam
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>>60939515
With all his success, he was able to find a lovely wife.
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>>60939781
Are those his werewolf sisters? No wonder he hates silver.
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>>60939781
Yep stackturds are mad IQ is a 2 meter tall Swiss chad
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>>60939804
>Swiss
Post passport. You won't because you're not swiss.
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>iqdalit is swiss

Water is dry
And ice is hot
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>>60939817
Post proof you own 140,000 ounces of silver,,,,,lmao you cant
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>>60939558
>Not to mention the vast reserves of maple syrup deposits
Sorry, not in Alberta or Saskatchewn fren. Sugar maples are an Eastern/Central Canada thing. Most of our trees are coniferous. Maples don't really do too well here. Alberta is the only rat free inhabited region in the world.
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>>60939604
>the money you spent on PMs will be used by someone who sold you PMs, and it will likely end up in the markets or treasuries, helping the system
You are ignoring VELOCITY. PMs going into your stack are a dead end for that money. Buying and stacking silver can literally help end the current fiat system.
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>>60939825
>proof you own 1,400 ounces of silver
1,400 ounces. Exactly what you asked for.
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>>60938461
>complete anarchy with raiders killing everyone and eating babies.
It's weird that following a collapse we have more documented cases of baby eating than we do raiders killing everyone.
I feel like that order should be reversed. Baby eating shouldn't be a collapse signal.
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>>60939842
>Buying and stacking silver can literally help end your bloodline
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>>60939617
>Selling your credit IOUs for the real deal is not physically possible by everyone on the planet. That's why it is such a threat.
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>>60939844
Post proof you own 140,000 ounces of silver,,,,,lmao you cant
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>>60939825
You only need 60 ounces to be in the top 20% physical silver holders and 365 to be in the top 1%. Almost all value is stored in toxic credit assets and the "glut" of silver is instantly bought if everyone simply spends $100 at their local LCS. It evaporates instantaneously. No wonder they hire poobots to fud silver. It's the greatest asset on the planet.
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>>60939706
>I did a trade at 100/1 on silver and 3/1 on platinum.
Platinum is a sleeper. For nearly my entire life it was pricier than gold, It will resume it's rightful place above gold when the time is right. Here's our baby.
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>>60939853
>Post proof you own 1,400 ounces
I did, right here >>60939844
I know you're stupid but are you blind in addition to being a total retard?
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>>60939797
>Are those his werewolf sisters? No wonder he hates silver.
Of course, holy fuck, now it makes complete sense. You're right.
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>>60939856
You only need 140,000 ounces to make it as physical silver holder
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>>60939873
Incel vibes
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>>60939858
What year is that? Came across a 1988 recently. Might slurp it.
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>>60938360
Anon, why would Natalie Mars bring your gf drastically increase the storage capacity of your prison pocket?
I am both disturbed and intrigued by your potential answer.
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>60939847
>bloodline
His bloodline....
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>>60939882
>Anon, why would Natalie Mars bring your gf drastically increase the storage capacity of your prison pocket?
Natalie brings her own carrying capacity, and quantity has a quality all of it's own.
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>>60939893
Incel vibes
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>>60939876
>You only need SIX MILLION ounces of silva?
Oooooooy Veeeeeeeeey
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BGM giving us hope for one more cheapie run after rate cuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3rBz0rO8uY
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>>60939881
>What year is that? Came across a 1988 recently. Might slurp it.
You would not believe me if I told you.
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>60939899
>>60939893
Her garage is too big for my car
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Better give up hope everyone. Back in Weimar Germany you could buy an entire city block for one ounce of gold. But sadly, it now costs six million ounces to buy even a single loaf of bread. What have we done???
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>>60939936
The universe works in mysterious ways. I'll take it as a sign to put through the order. Thanks for that.
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>>60939952
>Back in Weimar Germany you could buy an entire city block for one ounce of gold.
Slight exageration, but you are not wrong.
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>>60939963
Apparently 1988 was the first year of production.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Platinum_Maple_Leaf

They are exactly the same diameter as gold, but ever so slightly thinner.
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>>60938121
thats pretty badass
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>>60939973
Yes. That's why I want one. I'm finding it difficult to source info on which year has the least amount minted though. Any idea?
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>>60938064
>I'll stop stacking when it's time to cash in (unobtanium or 1,000 an ounce (in order to stack more when it dips)), but I'm not stopping a second before then.
You will know it's time to stop stacking when things crash such that stacking becomes impossible. THAT is when your stack value goes up in value (not price) an order of magnitude or more. You will be in the rare situation where you may be literally the only person in your community with liquidity.
-Stock market: Crashed
-Real estate: Crashed
-Bank accounts: Frozen or worthless
-Pension funds: LOL

When money dies, there is a brief period when people who have physical gold and silver become the wealthiest people in their area. Formerly well to do estates have land, but cannot afford fuel. Land is highly illiquid during a currency failure. The best you can expect from a land owner is a future promise to pay.

Land rich, cash poor.
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>>60939997
>I'm finding it difficult to source info on which year has the least amount minted though. Any idea?
Here you go:
https://www.free-bullion-investment-guide.com/platinum_maple_leaf.html
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>>60939258
Nobody's selling bars for less than spot + VAT in the private market. Selling to dealers is retard shit
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Any other scrap/sterling anons out there? I’m trying to figure out if it makes more sense to retain things as “stuff,” (silverware, plates/goblets, sundry items), or take a hit on total weight by having it melted, purified, and bullion’d.
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>>60939004
I really like the card sized 1oz gold coin holder of that CGM coin. I have a similar one and it fits snugly in my wallet like any other ccard.
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>>60940027
>I really like the card sized 1oz gold coin holder of that CGM coin. I have a similar one and it fits snugly in my wallet like any other ccard.
Cool idea.
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>>60940020
>Nobody's selling bars for less than spot + VAT in the private market.
Is there much investment demand for taxable bars in the EU when you can get coins without VAT?

We bought bars because they were the cheapest. In Europe we would buy coins for the same reason.

The only real customers for bars would be fabricators using the metal for manufacturing.
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Someone who's not a spaz make a new thread. I just tried like six times in a row and screwed up each time.
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>>60939856
Cute Moondrop mascot.
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>>60940058
lol spaz
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>>60939458
>>60939495
The interesting thing about envisioning a modern gold/silver system of trade is that we have the capability to change prices on the fly thanks to e-ink tags.
Modern computer based commerce systems are well equipped to handle very dynamic pricing based on gold/silver rates. The next difficulty would be making small enough pieces of silver to be able to make small enough adjustments. Laws could account for rounding to the nearest full value, either up or down, to keep things sane.
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https://youtu.be/XXvYyad_LIs
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>>60940076
>The next difficulty would be making small enough pieces of silver to be able to make small enough adjustments.
The make a silver version of the Goldback, not surprisingly called silverback. I can't attach an image but you can google "silverback currency" and find images. They seem to be doing collectors items, but they would make feasible specie money for very small denominations in silver.
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>>60940076
>Laws could account for rounding to the nearest full value, either up or down, to keep things sane.
If we could do that, we'd have gotten rid of pennies by now.
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New thread >>60940122
New thread >>60940122
New thread >>60940122
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>>60939842
>You are ignoring VELOCITY. PMs going into your stack are a dead end for that money
for you, but you have no control over what the seller will do with that money, and in the end it all sinks into taxes/treasuries/stocks because it's a closed system
e.g. a boomer sells you 500 toz of silver, buys a boat
boat manufacturer gets the money, pays salaries
salaries end up in necessities, other boats, investments
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>>60938437
>>60937255
I have a very good friend who is an older european billionaire. Industrial business.
He trusts me, likes my advice etc.
No desire to buy gold or silver, or even invest in mining.
The vast, vast majority of major players out there do not know anything about what is happening at the moment.
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>>60938449
I agree with this, but there is the notion of whether you are able to actually keep your stocks in crisis. Very, very, very few banks and institutions will honor your IOU on a stock and give it to you. They can legally use whatever you put your money into to save their own ass. It is deceitful and it is intended as such
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>>60940670
We're not there yet.
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>>60940670
>Very, very, very few banks and institutions will honor your IOU on a stock and give it to you.
Here's your 1/1000 interest in this company, how would you like that paid? Paper or digts...
Kek



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