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hispano-polish edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://etfdb.com/

>Gambling
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started
https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

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i thought spaniards were lazy
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These guys walk into your bar in 1899, what do?
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>>60947552
Based and factual.
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>>60947566
Wonder how I became a property owner 101 years before I was born
/thread
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So what happens if there's no rate cut? Will we crash or will the market stay delusional and pump because no rate cut means the US economy is doing well and that's bullish?
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NO RATE CUTS BABY

WE'RE GONNA VOTE FOR RATE HIKES
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What's a good gamble rn
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there's always such absurd overreaction in the first half hour
then we crab for the rest of the day barring huge news

you should be buying dips and selling highs around 10am EST and then just zone out desu
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>>60947566
courteously offer these fine chinamen my best opium
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>>60947566
kick them out of my bar and send an angry telegram to the railroad to tell them to not let their chinks out of the yard. My bar is a child friendly establishment we can't have godless gooks running around here
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>>60947580
Craps and Dollar General.
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>>60947581
The first 1hr of the market is always fake and gay.
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Is slavishly buying into massively overvalued momentum hype stocks the only way forward?
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The Fed are retards that are responsible for half the inflation with their bullshit speeches.
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>>60947521
dont ever mention snap again you fucking nigger
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>my stock that's up 39% this month is down 4% today

dump eet?
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>>60947592
Yes. If you want to be a boomer there are momentum factor ETFs
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holy fucking guacamole we're so BACK
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>>60947552
recc me some polish stocks
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>>60947609
No such thing. The entire polish economy is just German companies outsourcing
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>>60947601
where's that guy that drew the shitty trend line for copium?
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>>60947593
Actually banks are responsible for inflation, by definition, with their loans injecting new money into the system
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>>60947621
Woah woah woah woah
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Pasting here anon, didn’t realize we moved threads:
>>60947509 #
My understanding is that physical bills are kind of a “separate” currency in the sense that banks need to buy them from the Fed, they reduce their accounts at the Fed and in return get cash notes, which the Fed then puts down as an outstanding liability for them. So money = reserves, cash = purchase with reserves
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>>60947621
Me on the right slurping a tasty dip
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>>60947618
From where do the banks get their money?
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How long until the fed fucks everything up? I want to buy the dip.
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>>60947630
they make an entry in their spreadsheet
0% reserve baby
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>>60947621
definitely would
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>>60947519
We’re not really on 0 reserves, we have moved to an era of “High quality asset reserves” so your requirement is technically 0 reserve for cash, but you’re required to hold Basel tier A capital of varying degrees, so government bonds and such. This is because the Fed is now willing to open market operations as far as they need to go, so there’s never any worry you won’t find liquidity for your treasuries
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>check brokerage
>suddenly my BIDU and Tencent are up a good amount
haven't been keeping up with the news, why are CHYNA stocks pumping?
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>>60947643
Sentiment improved. Plus they are having a meme stock craze in China right now.
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>>60947636
I meant metaphorically, not literally, lol
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>TREASURY SECRETARY BESSENT SAYS 25 BPS RATE CUT IS CONFIRMED

lmao???
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>>60947621
Got a boner from this desu
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>>60947658
GAAAAAAAAAAYYY
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>Bloomberg switches to seething about Epstein
Well that's it for the markets today.
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>>60947636
See
>>60947642

>>60947630
Banks are subject to capital requirements as outlined by the federal reserve and the office of the comptroller of the currency. Credit is money essentially is the end result of digging on how money is created, high credit ratings begot a higher ability to create new currency into existence. The ultimate end goal of this system in my mind is privatizing money creation, why shouldn’t AA corporations begot the same power of sound money creation as a nation?
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GEMI down 6% ahahahaha, i can't for this stupid exchange to die, they have yet to turn a profit, anyone who expects them to compete with coinbase, binance, and robinhood is a retard
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>SPY down
>GLD up
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why is silver nose-diving?
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>>60947566
Tell them no gooks allowed and kick 'em out of my saloon. I'd also shoot at their feet as they're making their way out while yelling "Now git! And don't come back!"
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>>60947677
israel announced its vaccinating it's citizens against the posionous effects of silver
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>>60947677
$42.57, -0.11%. Very strong retardation indeed
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>>60947580

unironically GME
or BigBearAI if you want something new
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>>60947580
Fanny May
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>>60947691
it's an unexpectedly sharp drop is all
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>>60947677
I sold all my silver and caused the dump
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>>60947670
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>>60947670
pure bag dump IPO.
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>>60947338
>im surprised how hard it is to find a proper understandable explanation of where all the money came from
When the media/people talk about money printing, they usually mean when a central bank loads up on a shitload of both t-bills and actually long bonds as well as MBS and other securities during quantitative easing.
You might hear the terms Open market operations and LSAPs.
These they mostly buy from regular banks in the secondary market IIRC.
The effect of this is that in the span of 4-5 months the reserves of regular banks go up by a whole lot.
But this is just a starting point and not the sole reason money in circulation goes tits up. Every time the Fed cuts rates regularly and/or ends up reaching near-zero and QE, it means a bank has less incentive to hold reserves with the Fed (lower bound) and more reason to hand out loans or invest it. It can also borrow from the Fed at a lower rate (upper bound). Thus the money multiplier effect goes into work and more aggressively to boot.
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>>60947699
Dude it's a tenth of a percent. Zoom out
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>>60947609
polish stocks are a joke
maybe get some cdproject and call it a day
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hate to say it, but Zuck cucked the Harvard crew chad twins by becoming a real billionaire, Winklevoss twins have been trying to cope for two decades, sure they're still rich but nowhere near as influential or successful as the Zuck
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>>60947580
RZLV.
Retail SaaS. Up more than 300% since June, but still small. Earnings report on Oct 1st.
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WTFFFF BIG BEAR (BBAI) BROS????
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Is gold still worth a buy? I'm looking at ZGD right now. It's the top performing ETF on the TSX.
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GDXJ
SILJ
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>>60947723
Calm down moshe
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I'm selling a little bit of my portfolio because I'm green and September has been unusually good so far
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Why is the dollar gigadumping? Did the orange man say something?
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Im staying out till tommorow.
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>>60947746
Pricing in rate cuts.
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>>60947746
Absolutely brutal, I’m so confused what the market is seeing as ultra inflationary in the U.S. economy, can someone clue me in? We’ve been holding rates steady, inflation is only near 3%, what exactly is killing the dollar? Is it just JPY tightening?
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>>60947727

see you in valhalla. i have no idea what this company does I just liked the name
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Sorry for the confusion last thread. I bought puts on cracker barrel yesterday and sold them today when the price dropped. I didn't just sell them.
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Boring morning so far.
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My europoor broker now offers private equity investments via ELTIFs.
Most europoor finance dudes on youtube and in forums advice against investing into these ELTIFs, because of bad liquidity and lack of transparency. My broker is also trying to hide/downplay to costs of these financial products.

Do any burgeranons have experience with private equity? What's it like, are the returns worth the risk?
Personally, I have the feeling that the current financial environment - especially here in europe - isn't quite friendly towards smaller businesses.
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>>60947746
Yes please, continue to go down. Back to good old days of 6 SEK being 1 dollar.
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HOW ABOUT YOU DUMP; HUH, HOW ABOUT THAT
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>>60947762
kek trade republic, i saw the email today.
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>>60947756
biggest driver is rate cuts, they expect the fed to print more (out of nothing) because institutions will borrow more at the lower rate, thus more dollars in circulation = lower value, bank of england decided not to cut rates, japan increased rates, everyone is betting on weak dollar and they are making country/national bank level plays on the weak dollar... which further fuels hysteria over weak dollar

now add in tariffman's Biff style plays
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>>60947763
>SEK
>implying that memecoin will ever recover
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>>60947760
i sold puts because of your post
you owe me money
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>>60947767
yeah, before I'm dumping any money into this I'll ask anyone who has had experience with this.
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>>60947761
That's someone's son
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>>60947770
Fair, I guess I didn’t really truly think that countries would dump dollars so heavily over the tariffs, I expected them to play ball at least a little bit and expected some deflationary pressure for them, but I guess everyone must be dumping dollars at break neck speeds holy shit. Fucking insane.
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Energy gows bonkers
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>>60947782

the only reason they're opening up PE to retail is so they can dump on you. Due to the illiquid nature of the investments a lot of this stuff has has a book value that is now miles out of whack with what it would actually be worth in a sale. They're gonna try and dump this steaming turd on retail before they have to make massive writedowns.
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>>60947756
>Rate cuts while consumer spending is actually beating expectations and under tariff pressures
As shrimple as that.
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GEMI down 9% now
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What happened to LPSN?
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if jpow cuts buy spy calls
if he doesnt buy spy puts
trend reversal on friday, tuesday at the latest
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>>60947801
k keep me posted
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>>60947793
who says the market is irrational?
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>>60947804
Yes, Ser.
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>>60947758
I LOVE JESUS CHRIST BUT GOT YOU COVERED
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>>60947804
hit the like and subscribe button so you dont miss an update
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THIS IS THE WORST DAY SINCE LAST RED DAY
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>>60947717
>m surprised how hard it is to find a proper understandable explanation of where all the money came from
fiat currency is fake and gay, its just made up, the "process" is just an illusion to give the retarded masses the belief there is some official process. Bernanke was interviewed on 60 minutes and admits the fed just enters some numbers on a key boad to create more fiat curreny out of thin air.
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>>60947727
>WTFFFF BIG BEAR (BBAI) BROS????
Congress members buying PLTR not BBAI, that is all you need to know.
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>red day
oh, you mean dip buy day?
grow up you bloody women
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Donald J Trump make the markets great and green
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>>60947810
lmao
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GOOD GOD WE'RE SEEING LOWS NOT SEEN SINCE MONDAY.

CUT THE FUCKING RATES J POW

WE'RE DYING OVER HERE

(Buy MDA)
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So what happens Tomorrow when they cut the rates? Bull or bear?
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Stocks are such an absolutely motherfucking garbage asset class holy shit. Being outperformed by literally every asset in existence, and the only reason stocks are up YTD at all is because the fucking dollar is constantly shitting the bed
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I've never held one of those tickers that end up being +462% up ytd.
I bet holding $2k of them feels better than being up 20% ytd on a regular $40k port.
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>>60947842
three scenarios:
25bp cut, 1-3% SPY rally
50bp cut, 5% SPY rally
no cut, 5-7% SPY dump (will be interpreted as pessimistic outlook on all economy)
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Jane Powell needs to do something.
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>Started the day up 1%
>Now only up 0.3%
IT'S FUCKING OVER I WENT FROM GREEN TO STILL GREEN BUT A LITTLE LESS, GOD HAVE MERCY ON OUR SOULS
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>>60947842
That's what you get for trying to silently print
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>>60947850
>no cut means a pessimistic outlook on the economy.
Uhhhh what?
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>>60947845
we can't afford real estate
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>>60947854
First day?
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all my gains from yesterday are already erased, how am I supposed to grow my account like this
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9/10 posts on X are saying it will be a sell the news event. Are you thinking what I am thinking?
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Okay that's it I'm dumping AGQ
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>>60947856
Lmao du kleiner bastard :D
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What if the Fed chairman looked like this?
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>>60947847
Hold gold or literally anything else that has actual value. America is a shithole, american dollars get you nothing except shitty products and shitty services made in this shit hole, and american companies produce nothing but american dollars and don't even pay dividends, because the average P/E is 17,000
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>>60947859
no cut means rates need to stay higher, which implies that inflation is not slowing down, inflation = bad, therefore stocks go down, we've seen this before when fed signalled that it would reduce the number of future cuts in dec 2024
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>>60947866
We are expecting a pump but i am feeling because of that it will dump
Its too obvious
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>>60947781
Personal responsibility, but sorry.
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Someone get the stocks on the phone
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>>60947868
:D :D :D
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>>60947870
How long we holding gold? I am thinl of selling when it reaches 4000
I have no analys on gold what the top could be before correction but it performed better than ever the last 12 months
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Im so excited for SPY to rocket to 700 once rates go down, everyone is going to be rich, EVERYONE
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how much investing is too much?
i throw about $1500-2k a month into various investments.
i go mostly towards dividend stocks and like seeing big numbers in the future. but then i look at things and wonder if what im doing even makes sense. do i really need hundreds of thousands, if not millions when i'm 80?
my grand mother is 80 and she's damn near locked in her house with a bunch of money.
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The absolute state
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God please let there be a 40% crash just to fuck with all the bulls. I'd lose money but I don't care as long as these delusional retards are fucked.
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>TURB up ~80% since I sold it
I only made $2500 today. I could have made $9000.
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>>60947887
>stock market goes up 25% every year guaranteed
>leverage no longer carries any risk
>suddenly possible to retire with like $80k of capital
>all the most skilled working age people stop working
>nothing of value getting produced anymore
>prices for everything skyrocket
>everybody poor
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>>60947842

prob sell the news if 25 point cut, more poompa if 50
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>10 minutes ago one of my stocks jumped from 0.5% in the red to 7% in the green for absolutely no reason
tell me this shit isnt just gambling there has been no news and literally no reason for this to be happening
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>>60947888
>how much investing is too much?
I am like 95% in
Get Rich or die trying baybay
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>>60947888
anon there is nothing worse than being poor when you are old, agree that you don't need tens of millions if you have sensible lifestyle habits but being dirt poor when you have no ability to earn is awful
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>>60947898
that's what the robots are for
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Market is going just about the way I thought. Some profit taking from yesterday and starting the Wednesday crab before the rate cut. People expecting an afternoon rally. I'm not so sure. But I do want to slurp today with the right deal.
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>>60947574
is a OP a Pollack
the pimple on the arse of Europe?
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>>60947899
No one believes in 50 right? Is it like 5% probability?
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>>60947888
why are you buying income stocks instead of growth stocks
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>>60947887
WTF THIS IS COMMUNISM HOW IS THIS ALLOWED HOW COULD THAT EVEN BE I DIDN'T VOTE FOR THIS
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>>60947883
I'm seeing a lot of very active mainstream shilling of gold suddenly, as well as assurances that "it's not a bubble," which means the time to get out is probably soon
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>>60947901
Which one
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>>60947901
>muh news
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>>60947888
You can always just blow your brains out when you are 70.
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>Held oil for months bought in after the Israel-Iran truffle bought in at seemingly the best time yet oil didn't move at all fuck it dipped somehow with the straight of hormuz threatened etc completely deflated I bag held
>held on got some divvies held on and oil finally crept up the Qatar strikes gave it a bit of a boost and finally I sold
>now oil is pumping like no tomorrow and I sold 5 days ago

I literally sell AT THE WRONG TIME EVERY FUCKING TIME. Jesus Christ I am getting tired of this, I sold my oil and bought back into VOO/VFV to play it safe and now that's dumping. Can't win.
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>>60947912
i liked the idea of compound interest and think it's less risky.
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>>60947919
PLUG
>>60947922
unfortunately for me i have no insider info about anything or i wouldnt be here
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I just know we're going to have some kind of crash within the next six months.. You have a madman president in office and an economy that is only showing growth because nominal figures are literally inflated. This isn't going to end well.
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>Retail sales beat
>import prices beat, higher
>export prices beat higher
>yields sleep
ok, completely fake
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>>60947888
Invest within your means and with money you do not plan to use is always the general advice, especially if you're doing long term investing. Mixing of growth for capital gains over time and income stocks to take advantage of time value of money with DRIP. There are some ETF's that will allow you to make income for reinvestment while also getting some growth.
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>>60947928
Growth stocks also compound, anon.
You are right that dividend stocks are usually less risky, but buying VOO isn't going to get your portfolio nuked and you'll probably end up with more gains over the long term. You also do get a small dividend from it if you just like getting those quarterly payments.
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>>60947917
But aren’t like government buying right now? Problem is golds market capitalization is already bay far the biggest asset. I cant see it doing another 2x
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Anon who was shilling CXAI, why?
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>>60947927
Because you are retarded and trade on guts feeling
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>>60947872
Cuts imply the fed thinks the economy/ employment is in worse shape than inflation.
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Unrelated, but the market is boring me. Anyone get the iOS update? I'm liking it.
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the recent jobs revision with over 900k revised downwards shows the economy is actually much stronger than appears to be. fewer economic participants generating this much gdp. there is no reason to cut rates, especially with todays data
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>>60947951
agreed, there are contradictory ways to interpret fed moves
>>60947957
i'll try it
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>>60947944
Central banks have been slurping it for years, yes. Now, years later, you're seeing lots of headlines and tweets about that fact, and how gold is a good investment etc. They're drumming up the normie cattle to serve as exit liquidity in the short term. Long term it will hold its value though. It will do a 2x eventually even if it's just because the dollar does a 0.5x
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>>60947756
my attempt at a rundown:
they're seeing picrel and realizing the federal government is ran by boomer retards who will deficit spend the country into oblivion to keep their assets inflated - so much so that the fed will be unable to fulfill all 3 of their mandates, aka fiscal dominance. thus a demand for higher yields

initially the narrative was that inflation was falling sufficiently to justify small cuts making conditions less restrictive
but the effect of tariffs is still manifesting and consumers beat spending expectations, so that's kinda bogus
really the only thing that could justify a cut right now is the risk of unemployment rising heavily and a recession arriving (especially after it was determined that jobs were massively overestimated the past 2 or so years)

if (when) the fed cuts, watch bond yields. if the 10yr and 30yr move up, it means the fed has lost the plot and markets don't think they have inflation under control and are cutting prematurely
if long yields move down, then it means we're probably headed into a recession (likely taking the world with us), and possibly driving a flight back to safety (treasuries/dollars)
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>>60947957
Ew looks like liquid shit
Thx for making me not to download
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>>60947962
They'll cut rates anyway. Rate cuts and stocks are just part of bread and circus for the goyim at this point, nobody gives a shit about the economy
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>>60947962
gdp is completely fucked thanks to import and export and investment based on legal changes (taxes) and trump coercing everybody
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>>60947929
As a fellow PLUG-owner that's just par for the course with PLUG, this shit is fucking weird.
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>>60947756
>"Inflation is only 3%"
>only
The mere fact that sentence occurred in your brain should clue you in on what the fucking problem is. The new normal we live in is not a good one.
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>>60947966
Should i dump my physical gold then? I dont trust /pmg/. They delusional degenerates
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>>60947943
i have about 20k in VOO right now.
investing about $120 a month into it until ????? whenever i feel like retiring.
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The fuck is going on?
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>>60947613
also polish government spending EU (German) gibs
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I've had aizens theme from bleach playing on loop in my brain for like 3 weeks now
This is bearish for the market
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>>60947643
I would love to teach little Anzu about trading (in terms of way) while she sits with me munching on potato chips
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>>60947966
only retard euro central banks sell their gold
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No one's talking about HGRAF anymore but its up 10% whereas everything else i have is down, at most -2%

Free thinkers have all died
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>>60947988
Completely depends on your cost basis. If you got in a month ago, I would dump. But if your cost basis is under 3k or something, you shouldn't feel much pressure either way IMO. It doesn't have to be all or nothing either
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Oy vey, not liking this dollar action as a europoor.
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>>60948008
touching anything even tangentially related to helping the environment when Republicans are in charge is foolish
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Why aren't you getting on MDA anon?

Its free money they selling dollars for 66 cents.
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>>60948022
>Hydrograph Clean Power
>clean = bad
>therefore bad

You skip right on over the Power part. Nonetheless, they're not power generators, they're developing graphene for its wide uses which aren't even Power uses and aren't clean

Name is a lie
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>>60948034
Soot thot company.
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>>60947979
its not like im gonna sell even if it goes 10 or even 15% in the green i have strong conviction its going beyond 2.50 it just moves so weirdly pisses me off
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>>60948034
fuck graphite we're putting lead back in pencils
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>>60948034
they shill their tech as an industrial waste treatment do they not?

Trump EPA keeps letting more mercury and shit into drinking water, hence my skepticism.
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>>60948034
They'll like it as soon as it somehow gets tied up in the AI trade
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Go all in on Nicola mining or 1911 Gold? I only have 50k to my name, wage slaving a crappy job. I need a moon shot to make it bros
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>>60947826
But congress is buying BBAI too!!
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>>60948045
Lmao
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>>60948024
I just bought and I'm already second guessing my decision because of this shill posting
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>>60948058
you bought a Canadian space stock I really don't know what to tell you.
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Freeport McMoRan's Indonesia mine has been mostly closed since last Wednesday while they conduct rescue for 7 miners trapped in mudslide

Theyre still working rescue efforts.

Its been nearing a week those people will be dead

Further, earning report Oct 20 I think so that'll likely suffer too
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>>60948071
Sorry, FCX is the ticker
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Antimony is the future. That's why I invest in UAMY.
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>>60947987
The fed have changed their methodology, 3% inflation now to make up for years of 1% inflation post 2008, I think it’s a fine move and doesn’t explain hemorrhaging 12% to EUR/JPY
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Thats bullshit but I believe it
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>>60948039
It's by far the most volatile stock in my portfolio and I'm significantly down on it, but I feel like the medium-term prospects are just too good. Basically just needs to survive another year or two and it should be solid gold, in the meantime it's flipping all over the fucking place like a shitcoin but eh I'm not in it for a short ride.
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>>60947910
What's the median salary though?
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>>60948071
Im heavy in FCX
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>>60948008
>HGRAF
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hydrograph-oxygenated-graphene-coating-offers-120000138.html

It's going into all of the datacenters.
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How do you guys invest? What apps/means do you use?
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Best construction/house building ETFs?
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Am I a bad person for hoping that the federal reserve hykes interest rates?
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>>60948107
Normally, no. But this is clown world
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>>60948103
i make the daily commute to lower manhattan and stand on the floor screaming my trades at the other jews like a real man
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>exited NVDA at $160, made a tidy profit, figuring shit will go down soon
>it's well over $170 and Wall Street is still partying

Fucking hell
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>US opens probe into 174,000 Tesla Model Y cars over door handle failures http://reut.rs/4prQzcE

bullish
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I bought 100 shares of a 3X ETF that tracks GOOG today at market start, and an hour in when I saw that GOOG is bear'ing I sold that bitch quick.
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>>60948112
I don't know man, everything seems pumped at this time of the year, doesn't seem like anyone is thinking that much about the stuff they're buying, there is lingering inflation. Looks like this is going to be it.
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>>60948103
brokerage: fidelity
charting: godel, yahoo finance unironically, also fidelity
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>>60947917
>>60947966
yeah the gold shilling has become increasingly blatant lately
gold holders probably trying to offload some near the local top
just looking at the trend of the past 50+ years since private ownership was re-allowed in '75, seems like there's only so much room for it to run from here
gold as a portion of M2 is also approaching most prior highs outside the 1980 blow off top

sure the gov+fed are retarded with the dollar, but I'm really not convinced this is the end of the dollar and that gold won't swing down again over the next 10-20 years
good for the short and very long term, questionable for the mid term

>>60948085
lol that's probably the argument they'll use despite clarifying some months ago that intentionally undershooting inflation to make up for the time spent above 2% would be "inappropriate"
they've averaged 4% since 1971 too, and that's just what the gov admits to via CPI
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>>60947927
Anon be glad, oil is a widow maker
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>>60948107
It'd be pretty fucking funny if they did
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>>60948099
Do you as well anticipate a dip when news of death is released?

If so, why didnt you sell in anticipation?
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>>60948103
roth ira with fidelity that my dad set-up for me when i was a kid.
I really need to restructure mt finances.
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>>60948136
No, I anticipate it going up.
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>>60948123
The real effect is more in housing as apr drop can make purchases happen. I don't think most retail in the market even know how the fed works or why it causes market movement, they just reflex to the larger players

>>60948125
I have 20 $337 calls on GLD I bought last week, I plan on holding them until Nov
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>>60948140
As the mine will reopen?

How about given the additional fact that the Indonesian government wants a greater share of the mine?
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Will cutie jenna be there today?
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>>60948142
Priced in. I believe the charts say we're going higher from here.
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>>60948144
no she is at my house today
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>>60948107
No, you just enjoy comedy
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>>60948051
Oof, I wouldn't do that... picking a 10 bagger is very tough, better to diversify imho.
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>>60948148
I'm not so sure fren
We will see when news appears, I'll be around then to let you know im left watching the gains from the outside lol

I have 6 shares from July, but still
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I really fell for the "go all cash during september bro, its gonna dip" meme
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>>60948125
It was my understanding that they changed the framework to inflation average targeting in the first place to again make up for low inflation post GFC, so I think saying under targeting inflation going forward and that high inflation currently is averaging it out per their policy are both statements that can coexist.
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Hecla still a good medium term buy or has it already finished popping off?
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>>60948058
be prepared for company communiques also being disseminated in Hindi and Punjabi
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>>60948153
but she's my wife
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>>60948165
Well, if you're hesitant, then it's the right thing to do to reduce your exposure. I am holding over 20 leaps on FCX, but I am bullish on the ticker and the industry in general.
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>>60948166
Today is a bear bro, it ate half of my gains I made yesterday. Not sure how much that soothes your butt burn.
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>>60948166
We're plateauing to shrinking today, so maybe it's about to start
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>>60948174
dont worry we only do anal
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>>60948107
nah you're just retarded and don't understand that its not going to happen. 0% chance.
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>>60948166
Keep holding until tomorrow, there are sure to be some fire sales
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>>60948144
she has been off the fed beat for nearly 9 months now. she does ecb now.
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>>60948183
hoping doesn't mean im beting on it
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is HGRAF still going to 1000x from here like the shill was saying
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>>60948047
>more mercury and shit into drinking water
if mercury is good enough for tooth fillings its good enough for water drinking.
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>>60948167
if we're only considering post-08, then they're still sitting at ~2.4% average inflation right now, so would still need some years of <2% to get back to 2%
but if 3% is the new target, then yeah they're more on track
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Is SPY forming a yuge cup and handle?
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>>60948166
could be worse, i bought puts
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>>60948071
>those people will be dead
that's called a disruption. Noone cares about the minors
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>>60948209
Look at IWM, it formed a 4-year cup and handle.
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>>60948207
Ah, I didn’t realize that, good to know thank you. Yes they should probably be fighting inflation harder than they are then, very interesting.
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>>60948204
Not a shill, up to 80,000 shares now and the moment we get news about acetylene agreement, production facility or EPA, it's going to fly.
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>>60948209
I doubt it
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>>60948232
>Not a shill
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>>60947756
some economist i watched months ago explained that tariffs will reduce the strength of the dollar vs other currencies
I can't remember exactly why, but it was before the tariffs happened so he seemed to be correct.
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Feel like we're heading for a bloodbath.
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>>60947552
China is growing way faster then Poland and Spain this year. Somebody watched still too much jewish Neocon propaganda. Also germany is in a recession since 3 years, belongs 1 down
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>>60948207
>if we're only considering post-08, then they're still sitting at ~2.4% average inflation right now,
things cost double or triple since 2008. i don't think you understand actual real inflation
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Let's go RDDT, let's go!
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>>60948241
probably something to do with the american petrodollar being the world-reserve currency, the money that every country is happy to process. Tariffs reduce foreign trade in theory, so they would lose 'strength'.

The problem is, the USA was maxxing out that stat for the last 50 years, and the price wasn't worth it in the long-run, petrodollar supremacy + globalism and selling out your middle-class is a bad deal.
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>>60948285
>petrodollar
this ended in 2024 (at least on paper) no?
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>>60948269
CPI since 2009 agrees with his analysis, about 50% increase in prices over 16 years.
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>>60948269
I'm going off official CPI data
2.4% is the annualized average from '09 to today which means about a ~50% cumulative increase
it's obvious to anyone with a brain that CPI undershoots the real numbers, but the fed justifies their decisions based on the cooked numbers
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>>60948232
What kind of power does hydrograph clean power generate?
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>>60948300
Petrodollar has colloquially come to mean currency pricing of commodity markets, is my understanding
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just recover on 1/2 of the volume bro
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>>60948285
That was my takeaway too, I just didn’t consider it was actually happening. I guess hedging against a narrative of de-dollarization is as strong as an actual shift.
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>>60948209
It's forming a twig and berries
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>>60948312
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I think (((they))) are trying to calmly exit the markets before #TheBigOne boss.
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SPY should be 15% lower given how much tariffs are wrecking the economy and have already shaved off a not insignificant portion of GDP growth this year..
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>>60948339
If you account for currency devaluation it is only like 2-3% up.
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>BREAKING: Searches for "help with mortgage" surpass 2008 housing crisis
This is probably fine, right
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>>60948352
>he thinks the line will ever go down
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>>60948352
more people are internet-savvy enough to ask questions like that now. i wouldnt worry about it too much, america has like 50+million more people now than in 2008
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>>60948352
that's bullish (more rate cuts)
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>Twitch has launched an age verification system that requires some users to scan their faces to verify their age

LOL
LMAO
KEK
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>>60948373
Are you the autist who has been shorting AMZN because of Twitch being shit?
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>>60948352
GFC in 2026, BET
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>>60948373
doesn't nearly every website do that now thanks to the UK?
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>>60948376
No but I thought that its funny some website that's already dying from botting fraud to streamers leaving over ads spam is going to scan people now. That shithole will die by 2026.
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This market wants to crash out.
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>>60948390
It desperately wants to pull back, and yet somehow I'm still green
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>>60948352

Want your mind blown. Watch this.

https://youtu.be/s-tY7Qv9yjg?si=Mb9Hi39b6vRruj4u
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China stock bros. It's finally happening.
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180 call on Nvidia for like January? Should I?
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>>60948358
google trends charts the relative interest vs. all searches, not an absolute # of searches
this is suggesting a similar overall level of interest in that topic as 2008

>>60948361
even if mortgage rates fell back to 3%, I still wouldn't expect that much home price increase vs. today (at least in real terms)
real prices should be much lower at these rates, but the housing market is frozen because no one wants to ditch their existing low % mortgage, so they've just slowly crept down the past 2-3 years
low rate mortgages would open up both supply and demand, but the price juice from low % mortgages has already been squeezed over the past 40 years
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>>60948401
It's been happening for like a year now. My China ETF is up 55%.
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>>60948352
Nuclear Armageddon level pump signal. SOXL 70 by Christmas, 95 by April of next year.
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>>60948258
China's government is fudging their numbers. The real estate market is the biggest indicator for the health of the economy and Evergrande's collapse should tell you it's bad.
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>>60948400
>watch the slop
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>>60948436
This is cope. Even the US government has concluded that Chinas GDP numbers are accurate. Exports are up, non-real estate investment is up, consumption is up. China's economy is doing fine right now.
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>Auto loan defaults are nearing crisis-era highs. Balances exceed $1.66T and repossessions are up 40%+ since 2022

Bullish
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>>60947563
We are.
But Germs and Ingerlanders insist on propping up our economy for some reason, thank you my Pancrustacea-skinned overlords.
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>>60948352
>giant cup and handle on mortgage assistance searches
BULISH
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>>60948455
>Pancrustacea
kek, I like to call them lobsters too
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Are you buying the generational dip at 660?
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>>60948451
All of this shit about defaults and yield rates and interest rates and it still won't fucking crash
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what should i slurp now? eurowaffen? semiconductors? banks? miners?
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>>60948166
It's supposed to dip, but for some reason literally everyone decided that they were going to make big moves to the point where buying and holding is becoming meta.
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I'm getting fucked by leveraged Nigvidya
And not in a good way
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Guys please tell me if I should get solar panels. My electric company raised rates like 14%, I live in arizona where it's going to get apocolyptically hot, the money I take out of stocks to pay for them will be safe because I'm afraid of a market dip, the tax credit for solar panels disappears this year, and the Big Beautiful Bill is going to kill all green energy, raising the price even more for traditional electric companies.

I'm so nervous though, I hear so many horror stories
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>>60948484
BUDDY
we told you not to get involved with that
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>>60948449
No it's not. Their growth was fueled through debt and subsidies to the point of oversaturation. The only major private sector growth of any note recently was Deepsink.
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>>60948487
I have no idea. It sounds cool asf though. Expensive but you do save money and can even get a credit if you generate more than you use but I am a lowly rentoid so i havent looked into it that much
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>>60948487
Lots of horror stories about solar. My sister has solar installed and one of the workers was a black fellow. Horrific. I can't believe they let those things walk around freely
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>>60948487
Totally worth it if you have an electric car.
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i think marty skrillex is on to something
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>>60948487
Solar can help offset costs, but it takes decades to recoup the cost on them. Then there's maintenance and upkeep, which you're actually going to have to do a lot due to haboobs and smaller dust storms.
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>>60948501
Is he ever gonna learn to not short meme stocks? Didn't he get raped by shorting quantum stocks?
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>>60948487
they pay off in 15-20 years max, and after that you have free electricity forever, they barely degrade after 80% efficiency
the only reason not to get solar is if you live in an area with deadly hail that will fuck up your solar farm, but in Arizona it's free money forever
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>>60948487
you can buy battery banks and arbitrage the hourly rates.
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>>60948487
The thing about solar panels is that you should only put them on a new roof because if you have to replace the roof then you have to rip out the panels too
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>>60948487
My neighbor installed solar panels a couple of years ago but we don't talk enough for me to know how much they cost him. I've read $25k or so in Texas where I live but I haven't looked at prices in a while. My main concern would be upkeep and how long they take to pay for themselves. Our electricity bill last year was about $3100.
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>>60948438

Since youre lazy.

Summary of Conversation (1800 characters)
The conversation reveals systemic fraud in the U.S. property tax and bond systems, endangering property owners and financial stability. Property valuation fraud, enabled by ignored appraisal standards, inflates values, hiking taxes and eroding homeowners’ equity. Described as a Ponzi scheme, this fraud affects all citizens, with real estate taxes embedded in daily costs like fuel and coffee. School district bonds, totaling $5.1 trillion nationally ($606 billion in Texas), are often fraudulent, with banks holding 60% of reserves in these risky bonds, raising default fears, as 600 banks are on watchlists. This creates a “silent second mortgage,” with 23% of homes in some areas tax-delinquent, risking foreclosures and a real estate collapse. Unlike cash or gold, which are simple and trusted, these complex instruments hide risks. The stock market’s strength masks real estate’s fragility, driven by overinflated valuations and ballooning bond debt, where interest outstrips principal, making repayment impossible. A Texas proposal suggests replacing property taxes with a state sales tax (15% initially, dropping to 11%) for transparency. The discussion warns of a financial system collapse if unaddressed, urging SEC complaints, criminal charges against fraudsters, and public action via amicus briefs or letters. It advises against printing money to save the dollar’s credibility and suggests precious metals for security, given bond risks. Homeowner associations are warned against speculative metals, favoring bonds despite issues. Experts like Mitch Vexler emphasize urgency, offering tools like spreadsheets to calculate tax burdens and bond debt, highlighting the need to tackle this $5.1 trillion debt to avert a catastrophic financial breakdown.
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>>60948529
so how are you positioned to take advantage of this situation
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>>60948523

Good hedge against rising energy prices. How much has it risen in the last 5 years. They're typically good for about 15-20 years depending on how well you take care of them.
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>>60948484
thanks for playing
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24 hours and all the money I lost today comes back
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>>60948407
>low rate mortgages would open up both supply and demand
People keep saying this but the demand will outgrow supply. Of people are sitting on houses because they don't want to refinance into another mortgage then once they can refinance into a higher mortgage they will just be trading one house for another so in real terms supply won't increase because of that.
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what do we think bruhs
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I haven't watched the video yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gk61ginOqo

but look at the recent years stock performance of some top shipbuilders:
Hyundai Heavy
Hanwha Ocean
Samsung Heavy
Yangzijiang Shipbuilding

They are literally money printers when the boom times come.
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>>60948451
Exactly, all those people getting repo'd are going to need to buy a car somehow
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>>60948501
So... shall I long OPEN??
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>>60948487
Don't buy from a solar company. Buy the components and diy to save like 70% even if you fuck something up and need to repair it
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>>60948600
Checked
$2800 in 2019. Incidentally I had to put in a new AC in 2021 but haven't noticed a big difference in energy usage in terms of cost (probably prices going up have offset whatever benefit I'm getting from a newer, more efficient unit)
>>60948608
Yeah, and the bulk of the new development seems to be apartments. Apartments and storage facilities are popping up everywhere where I live and have been for a while now.
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>>60948610

BBAI Been doin a lil summin summin

Even though they had the worst earnings miss I have ever seen

But congress is buying and US Gov is their biggest client

So what the fuck do I know?

BUY MDA
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>>60948642
>>60948642
>>60948642
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>>60948487
The horror stories I've heard about solar are all people who are still hooked to the grid and get charged for the energy they produce, but I live in the Socialdemocratic German Soviet Republics, Spain Oblast.
We're off-grid for energy (and water) and it's fine, I should take a look at the expenses since I haven't managed that money before but I don't think our setup is particularly expensive.
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>>60948487
no, on its own its not worth it, its great in the summer, but unless you get some eolic so that you have power all year long, it breaks easily, chances are the lifespan of the product will be heavily downgraded because the people instaling it dont give a fuck about their jobs. a product that was supposed to last a decade will last half as much because the material was misshandled, you will not have full propriety but you will have the full expenditure

>t. worked in solar panels
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It's Oracle
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>>60948666
>dumps as soon as you post that
Well I hope you're happy
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>>60948119
ah finally some news explaining the rally
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>>60948352
its ok rate cuts will definitely save all the ordinary people and not just be a donation to private equity firms and blackrock
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>>60948400
oh noes, buy my gold I am selling.
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>>60948664
Maybe you can play devil's advocate and say some nice and positive things about solar panels?

(the company is advertising 25-30 year warranty. Does that save my ass, or do they pull out some fine print to fuck you over?)
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>>60948755
there is no magical wand solution to anything. solar panel would be amazing if... a lot of things.
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>>60948417
>>60948401
fuark I wanna go to sleep, but I just need to add one more ETF to my folio, one more ETF bro
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>>60948557

4 Gold
2 Silver
2 Commodities
Bot in leveraged ETFs and crypto
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>>60948664
why not install it yourself instead of getting ripped off? you can also then make sure you have the right amount of panels, batteries and inverter and such
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>>60948487
Price of electricity is going to increase because ofdatacenters, so if you can get a tax credit why not. They have improved a lot in the last decade both in efficiency and reliability.



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