I AM GOING THROUGH CHANGES edition>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.com/https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Financial TV Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/>Charts:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://www.finscreener.comhttps://www.portfoliovisualizer.com>Screeners:https://finviz.com/https://etfdb.com/>Gamblinghttps://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Pre-Market and Live data:https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Calendarshttps://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.htmlhttps://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits>Boomer Investing 101:https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.financialjuice.com/homehttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://market24hclock.com/https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-ratesPrevious: >>61014330
Do you guys pay for premium data or just use the 15min delayed?
I hope they listened to me and sold all their tesla stocks twice boss.
Buy JPM
ai dashcamsunbelievable
IS IT OVER? Should I sell
What happens if a government shutdown occurs and it goes for 2 weeks straight? Estimated price of SPY?>>61015978>15 minute dailyKek you use IBKR don't you? I saw that and left nope I'll stick to Robinhood. Paying for real time stock market data, lol worse than paying to play online on a console when they don't even provide you internet service.
The shutdown either won't last more than a day or won't happen at all. The Democrats are the weakest fuckers on the planet.
>>61015978I have realtime quotes through eTrade for free
>>61016006I wish I was here in April...oh wait 4chan conviently went down in April. Feels kinda sus now that I think of it. That was the perfect time to buy so many stocks and it just happens to be down for like 2 weeks.
Can you believe there are people buying stocks today when the whole system is going to collapse tomorrow when the Democrats defund the government boss?
>>61016009Historically, the stock market did well during shutdowns. Per AI:During the 16 day shutdown in 2013, sp500 rose 3.1%During the 35 day shutdown in 2018-2019, the Sp500 rose 10% as part of a broader market recovery
>>61016009Yeah I use IBKR, but I don't use their charts, the interface is cumbersome. I use tradingview for charting and real time data costs money, not much though.
i'm healing
Retardfed obviously panic-cut again
The V has been deployed, slurpers win again
>>61015978>Needing data to make your financial decision>NGMIReal investors simply go by vibes, gut feeling, and the race/gender of the company's CEO.>>61016020Historically boss, shutdowns see a mild selloff initially then when they near reopening the gov we have a big fuck off rally. I'm not selling, might slurp tomorrow through to the end of next week.
Nvidia is spazzing out again
WE GAAN
I'm glad I trimmed my 3x bags a few weeks ago
>US CB Consumer Confidence Sep: 94.2 (est 96.0; prev 97.4)- Present Situation: 125.4 (prev 131.2; prev R 132.4)- Expectations: 73.4 (prev 74.8; prev R 74.7)
Bullish for my homeland
>>61016017but it wasnt down i remember posting and selling my index funds during liberation day to buy more ai dashcams
Out of my MDA position, lost $6, not a big deal, will probably buy back in once it hits the lower bound of the channel.
This is the triple top isn't it?It all comes tumbling down tomorrow doesn't it?
>>61015978nah im jewing till i actually make some money
>shitvidia pumps> Everything else dumps
>>61016095Where do you think that lower band may be?Mildly regret not trimming this morning, finger hovered over the sell button lol. Oh well, I'll just hodl.
>gold green again
>>61015978you guys look at data??
any bobos here? i have a shorting tip. im not a shorter myself so wont be using it. its a slow ticker maybe but looks to be going down.
>>61016116give it to me. now
I bought SQQQ.
>>61016020the democrats will fold immediately, don't worry
>>61016099Just broke $184, sorry sweaty you should know better than to bet against Jensen :)
>>61016138My god. A cup and handle into a blowoff top. We aren't ready for what's coming. The gusting Winter chill brings with it bear season.Why do we climb, son? So that we can fall down to earth.
Who else /financiallyruined/ here
>>61016121FIZZas long as it stays under 38.40 i would keep shorting. seems to be a slow mover.
>red day>green day>red daywhat is this shit?
Saving my money for the shutdown, will be seething if it doesn't happenI MUST SPEND AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
why does IWM have to be a piece of shit every single day?
>>61016020>demoshits>defunding anythingthey need mo money fo dem programs n shit dawg
>>61016151Snib Snab you're getting fucked by a crab.
>>61016104I forgot the support line from the previous high, but this stock sells off regularly and you can see it from the lows of the sell offs on the 30 minute chart. It's below the support line now anyways, it's going to sell off until it gets close to 34.0.
Can someone smarter than me explain to me why this strike price has not changed in a week despite the underlining stock being down more than 15%, whereas every other strike price is up significantly in the same time frame? Even the lower strikes are a higher premium..I feel like I’m taking crazy pills
What are we shorting today? What are we longing today?
>>61016156No, they need to stop Trump and if it costs the jobs of the non-essential government employees just to show they are resisting, so be it. Did you forget what they did during covid just to stick it to Trump? They just watched the cities burn, and told everybody they couldn't go to work. The uni-party isn't going to come out and do dick to keep the government open this time around.
>>61016162Damn near broke my neck trying to read that.Kl my average is a wee bit lower than that so its all gravy baby. Stay cool my smigga, its going to get crazy out there over the next 48 hours.
>>61016166>can someone explain option pricinguh oh no
>>61016144*taps the sign*
>>61016166Klarna btw..just wanted to flip puts for a quick 10-20% profit when it went live but now down about 50% lmao. Insane
are we gonna pump or jack off at the lows all day??
>>61015967I got $231 in divvies this monthFeels good
Sold some buttcoin puts. Think I'm done for the day.
Man trading is so much about just not buying anything and holding out until an obvious play reveals itself. Boring days are good. Trying to force one out is like shitting yourself. The best farts come naturally.
>>61016199checked
Are people who drive beaters really rich? Just found out my coworker is leasing his ram for like $1k a month…
>go to buy Facebook at 728>It immediately pumps to 731I hate this fake nigger market so much bros...
>>61016218I work in a manufacturing company and many of our wageslaves drive massive cars so yes, this drawing is quite accurate
got a fat +34% on a SPY put. calling it a day. not risking holding it into tomorrow (the original plan) but very glad I didn’t panic sell at a loss for the umpteenth time
>>61016166No one trades this illiquid shit. For 22.5 strike the price is whatever is ask but there is no bid at all.
>>61016218Not necessarily but some of the richest people I know, you wouldn't be able to tell from looking at how they dress or what they drive. I saw a black woman getting her really nice Mercedes repoed the other day.
>>61016218yeah pic rel was basically my old car, I did upgrade recently though
>>61016177I don't like how steep the selloff slope line is, it might go below the bottom trend line and if it does then next support is between 33.43 and 33.33.
Going to buy Intel, deep down I think it's a hopeless company but I'm going to trust the plan that Trump/the US will pump it
GIGA pump when?
>>61016230So I’m basically screwed right
what a boring fucking day and nvda just continues to pump
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?!
>>61016199livermore said the most money is made in the big moves. which means when the market turns bearish or bullish for like 3 months.
There are recession indicators everywhere and the market is still somehow going green. I know they're not connected but normally the market works on predictions of the future of the wider economy.
It looks like it's going to be correctober, I don't like how slow it's going. Slow correction could mean a real market top being put in last monday.
>finally say fuck it and market buy Facebook>Immediately dumps
How do you guys deal with poor people strong opinions. I have to interact with them from time to time and it exhausting. I’m also going on Ozempic and these fat pieces of shit hate that drug, is it just poor people cope?
>>61016275enjoy your bones breaking from walking
>A top GOP official tells me Pres Trump is opening the door to striking some sort of health care deal with Democrats as part of the shutdown talks (tho that's unlikely to happen today obviously). >This, let’s be honest, is going to give some Hill Republicans who want to keep these two issues totally separate, a bit of heartburn....>THE WHAT: I’m hearing new derails from yesterday’s White House meeting — the most interesting being that POTUS proposed working with Democrats on a new health care law. (Realistically, this is extremely unlikely to ever happen in this environment, but still shows a willingness on his part to engage on this matter)>“Nobody likes Obamacare. It's expensive, bad coverage. What we should do is write a new health care program,” he said, one person familiar and summarizing what he said recounted.>Majority Leader John Thune I'm told got visibly frustrated, and insisted “This is not about health care!” >(GOP leaders, of course, don't want to entertain any deal right now — bc they view that as rewarding bad behavior by Democrats taking gov funding hostage).>Trump responded by arguing that he wasn’t sure the next time he’d be able to meet with these two Dem leaders so he wanted to make his pitch now.>“We are arguing about premiums for shit care,” he said, per the person summarizing what he said.>A few thoughts about this…> GOP leaders are prob not gonna be happy… Even entertaining the idea of a bipartisan health care deal during shtu-down talks could arguably encourage Dems to dig in>During the 2018/19 shutdown, Dems held the line refusing to give Trump a penny for his border wall. He ultimately caved and took the blame for the fight. Many Rs would like POTUS to employ this approach: Give nothing.>But POTUS' curiosity abt a deal underscores how much of a wildcard he can be. GOP leaders want to make the shutdown hurt for Dems — but Trump loves a deal, so this complicates things...
Today is end of quarter, we are supposed to move. What is this gay price action on SPY
why does IWM have to be a piece of shit EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY
>>61016286Eat more protein.
>>61016297
>>61016297end of month fx euro-us bank stock arbitrage. there are probably a lot of people who want to hedge so there is a lot of payoff for them now.
AAAAAAAAAAA HIDE YOUR FAMILY, SAVE YOURSELF, WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE
>>61016302>small cappic related
thread cloud
>>61016218leasing a car is poverty behavior.buy a used car with low mileage that is high quality
I'm lovin it
>>61016316>LineBased grugmarket
Russel getting stuffed
>>61016316>no n-wordGotta step it up
>>61016316JPM is missing
>you could benefit more from a 45min sessions of guided introspection with a therapistThanks for the suggestion but I'd rather dig to the bottom of my perceived and unseen self in an ultra-marathonThere are things in a man's psyche that only physical exhaustion can bring out. Surface-level questions and insights from a shrink can only help surface-level minds. Those with a wider, deeper interiority must learn to tame the echoes through other means, no matter their sex.
>>61016218There is no point in having a car unless it is making a large amount of income for you.
>Apple is climbing again
>>61016261Everyone knows and every pleb is short. Ain’t no way we’re dumping and letting retail take a profit. Don’t think about where the market should be, think about where normies are putting their money and take the other side. Only up from here
>>61016344so i should get a motorbike? im tired of riding my bicycle
>>61016344Car Ownership = FreedomEurocucks just don't understand boss.
why do richfags keep getting horsing as a hobby
>>61016302just means it's not a real bubble yet
Wait, wtf NVDA?
>>61016232>I saw a black woman getting her really nice Mercedes repoed the other day.bubble signaldelinquencies are comingshort credit card companies and banksbuy bonds and kroger
BA bros?
>send my orders through one at a time so I don't spook the market jannies>they all get filled except for the very last oneIf you know what's good for you you'll fill my order>>61016359Every time I see a statistic about delinquencies they're at ATHs
what kind of psychopaths buy nvidia here
>>61016365Like the market
>though Islamic finance principles may require "purifying" dividends from Shariah-non-compliant businesses. how can i become a dividend purifier sounds like profits
Im flat
Everything is turning red
oil has been completely heemed and the real heeming hasn't even started yet
I will not respect this market when RGTI is still trading at 30 fucking dollars
>be me>Buy anything>Entire market shifts to negative, all indicators go opposite, all Fx and bonds reverse to negatively impact my stock>Short anything>Entire market pumps, all indicators go positive, anything and everything good that could happen does, all bullish news events happen in minutesIt's me. I am the market spirits they talked about
>>61016401You should start streaming to hedge your trading
>>61016399get rich shorting it
it's all noise, no signal
there’s still time to buy SPY puts and profit from government shutdown panic (I say, having already sold my SPY $663p for 34% profit)
>>61016401do you have a substack
>>61016401only buy or only sell. simple as that. it is not the same and you need different ways of betting for both strategies. when you become very good at a few things you will make consistent profits. intraday noise should never hurt you.
>>61016391Well the Secretary of War, just told all his generals to prepare for war. I'd expect some kind of false flag, like another Ukrainian missile killing some pollacks, to really kick shit off.
forgot about me?
>>61016401>bet 1000 dollars some random soccer team is going to win>5 min in they concede a goalevery time
>Be me>hit refresh > +400>refresh> +300> +200> 0> -200> -400Stop the count
>>61016381Am I mentally ill for preferring the right over the left?
business idea: buying stocks based on your 4chin thread id
I bought the dip sars...maybe I should adjust my gap from +1/-1%. That's kind of within noise...
alrt just keeps on giving.
https://www.hud.gov/Is red the new green?
>>61016459Red is the color of Republicans. The American people voted for tons of red, and this administration is poised to give them just that boss.
>>61016459priced in
>>61016306google reddit ozempic with people talking about their strange bone breaks.
>GAMB >GRRRNever listen to any ticker posted in here
>>61016316next today happentomorrow money leaders
>>61016459Can we just get rid of HUD, like seriously why does the federal government need to be involved? Just let the fucking local governments develop their own uban areas and shit boss.
Where my GALTbros at?
here it comes
>>61016498>tomorrow money leaders>not 'gay month money leaders'pathetic
>>61016497I made 5% off of GAMB but yeah my big winners otherwise have been my own picks
>>61015967I was using the finviz screener and I saw AMC is at 2.91 and cleared 5.00 in the last year. How is this company even a buck a share? They have the same problems as other theaters and even their newer theaters are often subject to additional wear and tear from niggers. Does anyone here mess around with it?
I've made a 60% return on my investments (all outside the US because fuck those arrogant cunts), but I just can't figure out CFD trading. Nothing I do leads to consistent profits. Anytime I make a profitable trade I lose it all the next week. How the fuck do daytaders do it?
>>61016506Lucky seat. This gorilla bag is getting heavy.
>>61016504You really expect the city of Atlanta/Chicago/Baltimore to be competent enough to run that typwe of program? They can't even run a proper town hall
>>61016512i buyed, sorry
>>61016523>How do daytraders do it?by not being anti-american you faggot
>tfw your $TLT calls are getting gang raped>>61016438Every healthy male would prefer the right
>>61016527No, not really, but how will we know for sure if we don't let them try?
>>61016520zombie companies can live almost forever. they just issue bonds, dilute shares, etc...
Can you do TA on your equity curve?
I take it back, dont short today. Short at the double top. My guess is shurdown will be averted and pump us one more time.
>>61016549Tulsa, Oklahoma backfired last time we tried
>>61016523The shorter the time frame of trading/buying selling stock, the more your trades are influenced by luck and impulsive decisions, options- and algo fuckery, so expand your time horizon and use proper risk management. You dont need to make money everyday, a few solid swings and then waiting for your targets to act is the right way.
>>61016512i solded now
>>61016560i have read a book and it said it is good for a machine based system to have a moving average and if say the system has too many losses you stop using it until it touches the moving average then you can start it again good idea if you have multiple systems and then one starts losing and you take it off for some time until the moving average catches up.
>>61016564shutdowns are always averted. Majority is in all three branches
>>61016575>he solded the bottom
>>61016230Anon with the jew terminal any fanny news on that thing? I need a surgical dose of copium or I might actually kys myself
>>61016531>>61016575did you make money? looks like a noise trade to me, enjoy your slippage and thanks for the tip
>>61016444>Telefônica Brasil S.A. (VIV), up 74% YTD, 4% for the month
>>61016545I bought tlt calls when rates were 4.962, cashed out 70% at 4.711.. I want to pile back in but waiting for the initial rugpull first. 30year is going to 4% for sure, just a question of when (deep ITM LEAPS)
What the motherfuck wolf is up 50% I could’ve bought at $10 yesterday and now it’s $33
>>61016523>trades>outside the USthat'll do it to ya
Vix will jump by 10% by eow.
>>61016595>>61016587i just bought support and sold at vwap. simple as. we can still push to todays high beyond vwap but im not trusting this market since vix is elevated
Eurobros, do it really be like this?
>market dumps>my stock dumps>market recovers>my stock continues to dump
>>61016616LONDON>>61016617Happens everytime, anon.
>>61016603i told you yesterday boss.
>>61016523CFDs and options are a scam, literally 99% of people trading that shit lose money
WOLF is just a textbook shakeout from the big boys from bankruptcy scare to 1400% in two trading days. If you want in on these rockets, you must suspend all sanity
>>61016616>Physical currencyIn the third world part of Europe maybe LMAO
>this triggers the Fannie tranny
>sell options on leveraged underlying>take out premium to deposit with x500 cfd>bet premium does this work.i think this is the most one could win in a single bet
>>61016670Tired of seeing that gay as company name posted everywhere, I hope they go bankrupt for their name alone
>>61016650as long as you took the loss on the shares that were cancelled and bought in on the new shares issued before they megapumped
>>61016667Can’t imagine holding paper currency LOL at least get interest on your toilet paper currency
>>61016572That had nothing to do with urban development, that was caused because someone tried to take a gun away.
>>61016670stop :(
Man this stock is a swing traders wet dream.
>>61016677Hey that's how I feel about the GRRR nigger. Gorilla technology. What a stupid fucking name.
IT'S RED MONDAY
OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>61016689They called it Fannie because that stock is ass boss.
Does anyone here use put selling as a strategy for long positions? I'm a buy and hold retirement investor and started learning about options recently and it seems like selling puts to collect premiums while getting the stock I was going to buy anyway is a no risk strategy. I can even set the prices I'm willing to buy the stock for and sure maybe it goes even lower but I would probably have bought it by a higher price considering I only sell puts when I already have the money.Am I missing something or is this a truly no risk money getting strategy?
I'm green.
>>61016711stfu its americas biggest company :((
>>61016718It's only a risk if the stock keeps going down. If you intended to buy it anyways, then you can do that.
You cannot make this shit up. HOW is my put the only one not moving? kek
>>61016718>Am I missing something or is this a truly no risk money getting strategy?It's less risk than buying and holding, but you could also potentially miss out on profits if you never get assigned the stock. Stock could go bankrupt and you get assigned some dog shit worth 0$, but you keep your premium so it isn't a total loss boss.
When are you guys gonna buy ALRT?
>saar buy ALRT saar mega redeem
>>61016726Fitting America has tons of people with very large asses.
>>61016718Selling cash secured puts is just a method to reduce risk. If you want the stock anyway thats a reduction in risk. If you're choosing the price you want, thats also a reduction in risk. The remaining risk would just be if it tanks lower than your strike price and you'll be getting some loss. There's also just missing out on stock gains if the contract expires, but you get the premium so whatever.But again, you want the stock and if you did your research then you'll know that it'll go up again. Unless something cataclysmic happens.Right now isn't a bad time to sell an nvidia cash secured put if you wanna hop on the bandwagon.
>>61016740commander i am in the whole pump
Literally the most I've ever lost in my lifejfc
>>61016732>meme $50 into $WOLF a week or two ago at like $3>drops quite a bit and down to $35 in>over the last 2 days it does a 10xMan, if I put in $100 instead, or bought a cheeky call, or just, you know, waited, I'd be up a few hundred or even a thousand. It's hard to know what anything will do even if you hold a winner.
>>61016718there's the supposed risk of opportunity cost that the underlying will fly upwards while you collected your cuck premiums or that the market will tank harder past your strike.But these fears are unfounded in my opinion. Who really cares if you missed out and in a downturn you're bag holding some stock that you wanted anyways with a guarantee that you won't buy it at the top.
>>61016757I've had a loss or two like that when I first started.You know what? It sucks at the time, but eating shit like that will help you appreciate risk management and deter you from doing stupid things in the future. It's better to lose $5,000 now instead of $50,000 later
>>61016616how much is that?
>>61015978Huh? Even my fucking bank with a backend from 1970 has real time data for free (granted, you have to spam F5... but still)
I've started selling puts and using the money to consoom stupid shit. Its like a credit card with a 50% chance of not paying back anything.
>>61016767I haven't sold anything This is supposed to be a no brainer. They are running ads on boomer TVInstitutions have been loading up $20 price targets What the fuck
>>61016053>I'm not selling, might slurp tomorrow through to the end of next week.Yup, if there's a selloff I'm slurping the fuck out of it.
i hate IWM with a fiery passion
>>61016728>It's only a risk if the stock keeps going downYeah that's what I thought but considering my strategy that doesn't even seem like a risk because if the stock was $200 when I got the money to buy it and then it goes down to $100 while I agreed to buy it for $150, then what really happened is that I bought it for $50 less than what I would have normally got it for and I even got paid for it.>>61016733I only buy boring blue chip companies so I'm not worried about them going bankrupt, that should only happen if they are running a massive scam like Enron.>>61016752Thanks for the perspective anon. I didn't think of it as reducing risk but that makes a lot of sense.Regarding nvidia I'm already overexposed to it because of a couple etfs I hold so I'll pass on that one.>>61016765>But these fears are unfounded in my opinion. Who really cares if you missed out and in a downturn you're bag holding some stock that you wanted anyways with a guarantee that you won't buy it at the top.Exactly what I was thinking.
i made 800$ yesterday and now I lost 800$ is this the rapture they were talking about
AHHHHHHGHHHHMOTHERFUCKER WHICH ONE IS IT
No job report Friday if gov is shutdown, sounds like a great catalyst
>>61016718>no risk money getting strategy?There is no such thing as no risk, there is always risk. I have my investment positions already. I sell some puts and calls for some premiums (meaning this is small amount compared to my portfolio), then I use the premiums to buy stocks that I think have the potential to really move in then next few months or year. If theose stock rip, I sell them and use the cash to buy more of the current positions - it locks in a higher base. I only sell puts on stocks I like and would be happy to own/hold in case the price tanks. If sell a put and get assigned keep track of your cost basis, and if you sell calls be sure not to sell below the price you paid, not your cost basis, but the price you paid. If you sell a call at the cost basis and stock is called away you lose any profit you would have made, this is why you need to track your call/put transactions. Yes, selling puts will help you buy stock at price that is lower than the price at the time you sold the put, but that does not mean the stock price will not plunge on bad news, or no news, so just be ready to hold it for months or maybe a few years until it recovers. More volatile stocks have higher premiums. If you sell puts on Chevron and get assigned, then at least Chevron pays 4% dividends.
>>61016650I'm getting my first chance at a x10 but my fucking broker won't let me send the orders thru.This is mighty darn annoying I'll tell you hwat.
>>61016776Okay, so what are you freaking out about? When you enter a position, you should have risk management and an exit plan in mind. If you're trading it based on the price targets (lol), keep in mind that analysts are looking usually one year out, perpetually. So basically you need to sit tight and let that trade mature.Are you dcaing into it? If you are, just throw money at it every month until it reaches your exit level
>>61016757lol, now that's gambling
>SNAP finally dumpsI am glad I made all that money but damn it’s amazing to see a real case of the shilling that’s always complained about.A bunch of shitty new accounts were saying there was a rumor of a rumor of a buyout on stocktwits, then someone used 20 million to pump a 14 billion dollar stock 15% after hours, then AI articles quoting stocktwits and saying it was abreddit darling (not even true it was mocked) got spread all over the web, and tons of retail idiots have been beheemed.I went all in on puts last week and got my cut but it’s crazy to see it for real over the whole cycle.
>>61016718I should add that individual stocks can go to zero, or plunge in value and not recover in your timeframe, but an ETF is a different story. There are more conservative ETFs and more volatile ETFs which affectst the premiums, but a good ETF is not likely to go to zero as it consists of many stocks and if managed well will be more stable.
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>61016757daily reminder that if you're not taking your annual $3k in loss harvesting, you're leaving money on the table
>>61016832Swung traded that old turd 3/3 with succes of 7% gain every time. Glad I dumped yesterday at 8.65. Thanks for the fight.
>>61016821In the future, set limit sell orders. Maybe sell 10% at one price multiple, 10% at another, etc and keep 50% on hand in case it really rips>>61016803For me, the cleanest chart is the 1D (I like to look at 1W but its noisy here).There's a notable price level at 12.00. The blue trendline on my chart is flattening, which means it might have found a reversal forming.The red rots, yellow crossunder, break through the upper grey line tells me it is currently in a bearish trend. But it's hard to tell whether it will continue, reverse, or fakeout to 14 and keep dropping
>>61016803whats the point of all the TA if it leads to indecision. or maybe thats ur sign to not do anything fannie right now
>>61016826How exactlyThere are no options on this If I'm gonna buy some dumb shit I will usually get protective puts as well, can't do that here
>>61016401>he bought?>dump it
I literally waited all fucking summer for this shit to finally start moving so I wasnt stuck bagholding And now look at me now should have just bought schd
>>61016854hello ATR pro. can you explain tell me a bit about ATR. I use it for stops but im not sure how much exactly how much to use. Also what's your trading method in general?
>>61016869>should have just bought schdand start wearing socks with sandals
>>61016826that should have been cut long ago, doubling down or dca'ing is just sunk cost fallacy now, nothing to do with risk management to which selling half and holding the rest might be a smarter move and using the loss as a tax discount
>>61016860>>61016854Oh, didnt even realize you were the same anon lolYeah, it's an OTC stock which makes optionality impossible. I try to avoid OTCs unless it's something I dca into long term (like 2-5 year horizon).My point still stands, if you're getting beheemed, you have to have a plan; if $8,000 in losses is "a lot", what if it drops to $10? $8? What if it stays exactly where it is for another year? Do you capitulate and put it somewhere better? Add to your position over time to lower your acb?
Fellow Rolls holders, how are we fairing today?
>>61016869uhhh maybe you shouldn't have invested in a company that provides assistance to borrowers who don't have prime credit? Like what the fuck did you think was going to happen?
>>61016869As a SCHD Baggins, I realize I should've bought SCHG.
I lost everything on oracle calls
i was better off never trimming ai dashcams. going above $2 or even $4 was always just a matter of timeoh well, no one can ever be 100% certain at least my cost basis is out for a dow payment and i can start looking for houses next year + vacatiom to japan or something
>>61016913how them NXGLs
>>61016887This stupid fuck has been tweeting about this almost daily Multiple IPO mentions on interviews by him and that literal retarded faggot bussant
WHO THE FUCK RUNS ADS ABOUT MORTGAGE AND MBS SHITS????NO ONE EVEN UNDERSTANDS WHAT THESE MOTHERFUCKERS DO LIKE THIS RETARD >>61016898
>>61016886Oh I agree, you have to make a distinction between trading and investing, and I might have muddied the waters a bit there. Long term you can do whatever, but if you're actively trading it, you need to be really on top of your risk management and drawdown>>61016873This channel is my biblehttps://www.youtube.com/@NoNonsenseForexhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=086ozcHDZPwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ebKwZpSw4&list=PLPqWQo6-TXfHyC12MRHK5doA5oUeGwpkVBasically the way he does it is:>atr is the average candle length over 14 periods, including gaps>whatever your entry price is, set a stop loss at 1.5x atr and take profit at 1.0x atr>when you take profit, sell half your position, then move your SL to breakeven on the position (this is somewhere between entry and 1.5x down)>you are now playing with house money, let the trade run>once it hits 2-4x atr, set a trailing stop to 1x atrI do something similar, the indicator I use >>61016854 was a custom one that creates the middle channel by taking an average/baseline, and +/- ATR x some scale (2.618 in my case, which is a fib level - it just feels nice).Anyways, the key thing here is that your risk management is the most important thing. As a guideline, you only want to lose 2% of your account on a bad trade (you can set whatever level you want). If ATR is high, you want LESS of a stock because it swings harder. Likewise, if ATR is low, you want MORE of a stock because it doesn't move as much, and scaling appropriately lets you have consistent risk regardless of the ticker.In addition to ATR, I like to convert it to a percentage of stock price. Usually stuff that moves 6-10% atr is a prime candidate for swing trading. Under 2% and you're looking at bluechips and indexes which might imply leverage. Over 10% is very swingy and that's where you biotechs are
>>61016869Schd is so shit this year you didn’t miss anything it’s still red and more red in the future.
Someone shill me an easy 2x I need to make back my losses on oracle
>>61016919terrible. slightly red and prob just gonna crabCXDO pulled back hard down back to only +10%, IDN is almost back to breakevenBRM is also slightly redi mean theyre all positions that were just initiated within the past couple months with the expectation i need to hold them for a few years to see organic business growth, but it definitely feels stupid having sold ai dashcams for the sake of "diversifying" and deriskingi know it was necessary and even now i prob should be trimming since it's still an overweight position despite taking my cost basis + profits out, but man it really feels like ive been shooting myself in the foot just because of risk managementagain i know it's necessary since it's stupid to keep enough money in it to ruin myself, even if it *was* all unrealized gains, it was equivalent to real cash in my hand so i had to treat it like that. losing 6-figs of unrealized gains would be as painful as losing 6-figs of "real" cashstill have 200k shares in it i guess so today still feels more good than pain
>>61016929Sorry I thought they just put all the shit into bags so other people can hold.... I mean you're literally bagholding and bagholding company boss.
I can understand no pump until news But come the fuck on who is selling at this point?I'm losing my fucking mind here My final copium is if you zoom out enough its all higher highs and higher lows
the waterships down
>>61016826I bag held palantir until the day it magically exploded
>>61016933No one has ever lost 17% on schd >>61016945You fucking plastic balled nigger I will shove these bags up your ass
I know you wanna get down
>>61016946show volume, price is easily manipulated volume not.
>>61016929>>61016920Well, two thingsFirstly, an IPO means that private equity can dump their bags on retail and take profit. I don't like trading news or events for that reason.Secondly, if they're advertising it on TV, boomers will happily buy it without understanding shit. When my dad first got into investing actively in 2020 (I manage a $1000 account for him, he just tells me when he wants to move shit around), he was reading fucking Motley Fool for advice and I try to act as a barrier for him against retardation. Point is, that group rarely dyor's, and will make really silly choices *because* of ads. Between Trump wanting to give that $400 inflation relief and MBS's being advertised on TV, it sounds like firms want to cash out and dump on the public as much as possibleI'm not saying to hold it or dump it, but I would consider having exposure to gold or other defensive assets for next year, when you adjust your positions
>>61016946Wait this shit 9xd in a year this is way overvalued
man thats fucking nuts, C$2.26 for ai dashcams, i would have expected this to happen in mid-2026, not in 2025more than 1m volume today just on official exchange, i remember when i was buying like 50k shares when the average daily volume was like 80kinstitutions are finally buying in and they dont care about making it suddenly rise up like this, they want to get ahead before other institutions wisen up. full on FOMOno wait it's not called FOMO if it's institutions. it's called """institutional discovery""""i feel a bit of euphoria today so i guess i managed to hit a good enough balance between trimming my position at $2 then it pulled back down to like 1.70s again, and i was still happy when this happen so i was happy enough with the amount i trimmed.and it does feel like i kept enough to be happy if it keeps going uponwards to $4 i really hope it gets bought out because im going to be out almost completely by then and i'll end up roping myself if i see this at $10 a year after i sell
>>61016968Maybe, maybe not. You could probably find a dozen charts that did something similar this year. It sounds more like the market is repricing things to account for inflation or whatever... the chart looks more like a slow burn up w/ retracements, which is healthier than say, what $WOLF did
>>61016930It sounds simple, but its actually the most important discernment you can make in markets imo. For at trade, predetermine when your thesis will have failed and get the fuck out without even thinking twice, and you will never wound up with a loss like this. Reflect on the trade and move on. Evaluate your metrics. Are you scewing negatively in trading? maybe its not for you. If its a core position, chill and add more.
TA is horoscopes for men
Got paid today so can DCA into whateverWhats something with a small market cap i can gamble on?
>>61016393Uma Musume niggas be like:>aw, my beautiful horse-wife :)
>>61016968>Wait this shit 9xd in a year this is way overvaluedthats a dumb way to look at it, look at the business growth first before you make that decisionur probably right though LOL
>>61016989timmys be like >aw, that beautiful single mother with a niglet across the street, reeeee I can't breed
>>61016946It's called swing trading man, once they latch on they start regularly pumping and dumping stock.
>>61016996*flushes*
>>61016984GDXJ or GDXU>>61016981The example I always post:>$100 -> $90 is a 10% loss>$90 -> $100 is an 11% gain>$100 -> $110 is a 10% gain>$110 -> $100 is a 9% lossMath literally makes losses hurt more than wins help, so you actually get way further ahead not by chasing wins, but by avoiding drawdown and not making shitty mistakes
>>61016955>wants to put his Fannie in my FannieLook I'm not into that kind of thing boss
>>61016930sounds like a trend following strategy (trailing with ATR). whats your trigger to enter? the % ATR for swing stocks as filter was an eye opener for me since i dont like to use too much leverage
>>61017003stocks move by dollar amounts not percentage points.
>>61016996broke-ass niggas be like:>somebody made fun of my gacha game? reeeee, nigger-dick, nigger-dick, you like nigger-dick!1!1!1!!
>>61017003Boughted GDXJ - now i see where the cards may fold down the line.
>>61017003if u start with smallcaps, wins are crazyi remember when i bought some in my FHSA i felt so bad buying at 54 cents before it went down to 50 cents by the end of the day4 cents that was almost -10% in just 1 day fuck menow that same batch is up 40 cents in one day and i dont even know what to feel right nowso it's basically +100% in one day, but the chart only says +20% for todayfunny how that works
>how I feel bagholding CRM and AMZN
>>61017015gacha is cancer, people should stick to stock market for their gambling impulses insteadbut i do want to play that animal crossing gacha clone by hoyo when it comes out
>>61017008So does your account, but every metric is converted into percentages. It's unitless and universal. The point of >>61017003 was to illustrate that a 10% loss is not the same as a 10% win, with the loss being nastier side to be on.>>61017005Yes, the guy on YT is very keen on trend trading the daily chart (he's a prop trader and has basically semi-retired and actually trades the monthly chart now). I usually do weekly just because there's less noise and it looks cleaner for spotting a long term trend. I don't mind holding something for a few months if the upside is there, and there's less stress about winning or losingThe yellow/blue line on my chart there, it's just a moving average (HMA, 14), and it's yellow if the current value is > the previous one. Because it's smoothed, it helps avoid some of the noise. If the current candle crosses up past the baseline and then it turns yellow, that's usually when I pull the trigger ... I'm still figuring out all the rules of my system, but the entries don't really matter, it's all about the risk management
just read The Universal Principles of Successful Trading: Essential Knowledge for All Traders in All Markets
>>61017029Looking at GSI below $0.70, it had an ATR of 3 cents, but 6-8% atr movement overall.Looking at it today, it's about the same, it just has a higher price per share - it's literally the volatility as before and just as tradeable, the only difference is the scale is higher
is investing in the stock market ethical?
>>61017047>The point of >>61017003 was to illustrate that a 10% loss is not the same as a 10% win, with the loss being nastier side to be on.not that anon but another point probably was if you're investing by fundamentals, i.e. business growth then it's silly to just look at % gain/losses as if it were just arbitrary luck based movements, on top of currency devaluation-10% is ideally not as likely as +10% you're supposed to win over time, if you intend to treat it like gambling then you should at least do plays that have positive EV
>>61017057Why is the exasperated expression on her face so cute?
This guy gets it#goldchads
>that one time russia tried to start shit with usI kek every time absolutely disgusting weak subhumans
>>61017008Retarded post.
LOOK I ADMIT ITFANNY IS A FUNNY NAME FOR A COMPANY THATS WHY I BOUGHT
>>61017063Its amoral, until you invest into a company like lockheed martin or some medical company, then its immoral.
>>61016757Your losses are almost half my poorfolio. Also, I broke 5 figs recently :D
>>61017074Forgot pic related :/
>>61017062im not bothering with TA im just going to keep trimming at milestones as it gets closer to my targets on my excelsheet notesive already scalped a few times this year on GSI.V i cant risk trying to trade/scalp again in a TFSA (tax-free lol) until next year
>>61017083Yayyyy!
name a bigger piece of shit than IWM
I feel sick
>>61017079YGMI
>>61017097HGRAF
>>61016908Hahahhahahhah that oicture
The stock market has me dying ong
>>61017097IWMY
>>61017098Don't worry, you're just a little ahead of the market, everybody else will catch up to you soon boss. ^_-
>>61017103got that scared me i pulled it up and for a sec i thought ai dashcams suddenly reversed to -10% since both hgraf and ai dashcams are in similar ranges right nowtime to take a walk outside
>>61017092To be honest, there are arguments both for and against buying or selling into strength or weakness. It all comes down to your strategy
you need to post more of your option trades it is the best thing in this thread.
>>61017109fr? no cap?
>>61017117On god senpai
>>61017097INTC
>>61017122A new generation of intcel baggies has been born
>>61017122Somebody didn't believe
Is a 12.8% rate of return decent for having only started trading in June? I've just been DCAing into some ETFs and occasionally whatever gets shilled hereI applied for Options trading recently which i imagine can make things either far better or far far worse
>>61017115Here's what I got in my gambling account. My main investing one is better structured and doesn't have options, generally.I usually close/roll at 45-60 dte and the WMT condor has been +/- $100 for a while, but it's mostly a hedge on my main account in case the price dips suddenly to $95
i hope no one here is holding webullthey raised money just to give free cash away literallywebull will be giving me c$10k cash over the next 12 months for free just to move my holdings to thehow do they make money off me if i move back to wealthsimple afterwards for a free iphone
>>61017138SPY averages 8-12% per year so you're about on par with what the broader market does. This has been a stronger year than normal, I believe.Be cautious since few people can meet or exceed the market for multiple years in a row. Everyone is a genius in a bull market, as they say. Also options and leverage cuts both ways.If you are going to trade options, you need to understand how the greeks work for pricing
Picrel: Ok, now fight!!
is this the part where I wish I held onto my SPY 10/1 $663p or thankful I sold it for $255
Who are you more likely to blame for the Government shutdown, which could happen as soon as 10 hours and 30 minuets.>Trump>Schumer>Obama>Charlie Kirk>Hakeem Jefferies>Rand Paul>Mike Johnson>All of the above>None of the above (insert answer here _______)
what do I buy
Financial advisers, not even oncehttps://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/former-financial-advisor-sentenced-32-months-prison-stealing-more-500000-clients-trust
*BANG BANG*>CAM ON NIKE*BANG BANG*>PUMP EM GAINS*BANG BANG*
>>61017168WACLY
>>61017152Mm, gotcha. Im definitely cautious of options, especially since i dont fully understand them (have kimd of a grasp)But i DCA and keep enough in my savings account to be fine financially even if everything I own happened to crater. Here's hopin for the best
>>61017168i cant find a good set up so i cant help you maybe try again tomorrow
>>61017167Didn't Trump pass a 5 trillion dollar big beautiful bill? Why is this happening?
>>61017169>sentenced to 32 monthsYou want jew time, do jew crime.
>>61017167AIPAC for not ensuring that their golems vote for the CR
>>61017189they need to cook the books to make that bill happen
>>61017192I would imagine he also has to pay the money back. If so it doesn't seem like a short sentence to me. It's 2 and half years of being in fear for your hole from Tyrone.
>>61017203>>61017203>>61017203
>>61017122here, take it
>>61017205Can't squeeze blood out of a stone, especially when we have a de facto legal laundry method like crypto
>>61017207>>61017207>>61017207
double bake bearish for smiggers not being retarded
>>61017167the entire republican party, obviously
>>61017084Path of greatest pain will be for it to just crab, which is exactly what will happen as makies are now long Gamma. Then it will pump, and, in the middle of that pump, it will dump historically on a surprise no one saw coming.
>>61016218Real in the sense that cars are such a money vortex that you have to be financially illiterate to lease/cough up for one, or so silly rich it doesn't matter, which is rare
>>61017172based
>>61016316>No GRRRI have failed you ;_;Captcha: WAR02Oh no. WWII 2: Electric Boogaloo is upon us!
>>61016497GAMB & GRRR will rise again. I'm going to be smug posting this time in December.
>>61016913>i was better off never trimming ai dashcams.I think that is the wrong way to look at it. No one knows for sure, its always best to lock in gains, there is always another company to invest in. Failing to lock in gains chasing a little more, or even a lot more, more often leads to bigger losses.
>>61016769Enough for rent
>>61017452You better hope it does you brown fuck. Im 3k in the red on your jeet scam. If I have to sell at a loss I will fuck you bloddy
>>61016617Thanks for playing>no refunds
