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Retail is rotating back into bitcoin get ready
income investing is super cozy with reits
First for Israel
>futures
What if this is just a normal correction before resuming all time highs?
havent looked into my portfolio the past 2 weeks and I am going to keep it that way. it helps with the cope
i just checkedjewvidia earnings always resulted in a dumpits overmy money is burned away
we all know it will just pump back up again, it's too easy for it to be over right now
>>61346567I would like the future to be like this.
>>61346548>Inflation causes people to save more aggressively and stop spending>Deflation causes people to push porchases further into the future and stop spending Which one is it?
Oh wait I have enough to slurp an extra share LOL
>>61346570ofc it will. US won't lose to china ai arms race
>>61346579Inflation encourages spending wdym
>>61346582True, US has the human element on its side
>>61346579the jews say a deflationary spiral is way worse so i'm gonna go with whatever the money wizards say
>metals and minorshoping this correction is completed
How do I invest in Sandfall?
>>61346562retarded shitwhen ai is down, all the market is down including the dumb reitsinflation? higher fed rates? ooh, guess who is going downsomeone farted on x? down reits godown, down, down
>>61346582>AI arms raceHoly kekWe are still decades if not centuries away from true AIThe conflation of fancy autocomplete with "AI" is propping up to be one of the worst mistakes the market has ever made
>>61346602man I have to assume people like you are trolling because otherwise you're too stupid to be allowed to vote
>>61346570Its putting in lower highs and lower lows. The uptrend since April is over. Spy would have to go up like 5% this week to invalidate what is happening
There is nothing besides AI for big money to rotate into. Think about this.
>>61346597this is why pic relatedthe income growth from AMT is absolutely ludicrous
>>61346602you are a retard if you think it is a "fancy autocomplete". it is a game changer for productivity.
>>61346609So what's the roadmap to go from LLM to AGI? And don't tell me about how proompt engineering Claude Code has 100x your productivity or whatever canned bullshit they're paying you to contradict every single study on LLM productivity.
>>61346602An autocomplete being "AI' is the best lie Wall Street cooked up in decades. Imagine if they saif back then Siri or whatever was "AI". Everyone would laugh. Yet everyone got collectively dumber. But journalist going along with Scam Altman's lies are the worst. But hey, they get their little bill to publish a positive article no questions asked no bullshit pointed out.Everything is corruption of the worst kind at every level.
>>61346597Absolutely correct but then the dollar is increasingly not a safe haven.The FED can survive a depression, they cannot survive hyperinflation (their would be a revolution).So maybe the FED will crash the goyim easy money jobs to ensure their (the FED's) own long term survival.Meaning long US short term bonds is the counter trade that nobody expects.
>>61346562ya. you're objectively wrong about those darling. and a whole lot else too. hate to do that this morning but you're still not well. it's a really good time to fix your portfolio though, i think you should tilt to growth but at the very least you should get a standard allocation going. it's not gonna be a value run, the economy is geared towards ai and technology, not just because of it's promise but because of a security imperative. they aren't going to send all the plebs to disneyland anytime soon, we're in space race mode, this time for agi, and your portfolio should follow that trend, or at the very least just buy vti.
>>61346625Wow, it's a game changer huh? Too bad every actual study on productivity contradicts you. Guess they just didn't proompt well enough with Claude Code's latest models, right?
>>61346613lol
i am sooooooo fuckedi am soooo fuckedich am so fuckedAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI WAM FUCKEDDDDDDDDDDDHEEEEEEEEEEEEEELPI bought 5x nasdaq at 25100i am too scared to look at my account
treasurydirect.govearn yourself a nice 5% annualized return
>>61346647Poor anony
>>61346638>we're in space race mode, this time for agi, and your portfolio should follow that trendAnd people say we're still not in a bubbleLiteral magical thinking
I want to slurp but I'm a bit scared
>obvious bubble starts to pop>most overrated market in the world starts to very slowly correct itselfNo... It cannot be... noooo.... NOOO!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONow I'm a bit of an expert when it comes to financial matters and I have calculated that you gays are due for a -32.643% market correction.
>>61346562Income investing is for neurotypical peopleEnjoy your riches when you need viagra not only to get a boner but to pee
>>61346576>RAA>ROO>>61346661Scared money, believe it or not, don't make money. PUSSY BOY
>>61346641>experts sayi bet you took the coof vaxx aswell.but the real world looks different. instead of writing a email for half an hour i can do it in 5 minutes. with the other 25 minutes i can browse 4vhin or jack off. talk about productivity
>>61346548Stop trying to get rich quick.
my IREN doin a lil sum
>>61346666Scary getmost people don't know that it took 16 months for both the dot com crash and the financial crisis to go from it's peak to its low>>61346669that's not going to be a problem for me
>>61346644Yes big money will pour all its low interest rate capital into shiny rocks for reasons
>>61346625It's a very fancy autocomplete and data aggregator that businesses still haven't figured out how to efficiently use as a game changer for productivity. It's literally the "self-driving" cars of 2025.
>>61346636If the rates go, the bonds go down.So the play is short term bonds, let's say less than 6 months maturity, rolled over gradually into longer maturities
>>61346666It wasn't the gays it was the troons all along
>>61346676Our IRENsies :)
>>61346681The chinese will pour money into silver because they can't win a hot war and they are losing the trade war. Currency war is all they got. Prep your anus JP Morgan
>>61346673>shits out slop in 5 minutes so the recipient can either waste 30 minutes on back-and-forth with you trying to parse out what the fuck you're talking about (impossible so you yourself have no idea) or just throw your email into the trash and report to your boss you're cutting cornersYeah, massive productivity boost
>>61346529>I know that elephants may exist in other parts of the world, but right now that elephant is just as French as you could beso, never?
>>61346678t going to be a problem for melucky you, i can only get it off to rabbitgirl or catgirl themed hentai now :/
i really want to DCA into a short EURUSD position but also i could see some shit ruining the play
>>61346630AI is the ultimate grift, people believe it because they have to believe it. It's like religion (but the bible is actually useful unlike chatgpt).It's just insane the way people who are good bullshitters can run around in circles.>sir the patents>kya - know your agent>just like the banking protocol>>61346685Exactly although it seems like the FED isn't going to raise but just reaaaalllly slowly lower, slower than everyone wants. The other problem is the US debt needs low rates to survive, I kind of forgot about that when I made my original point. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I guess that's why the gold bugs exist.Will their be a shemitah and every country starts off with whatever gold they have and do it all again for another 100 years?>rolled over gradually into longer maturitiesI wonder if there's some formulaic way of nailing that or just guess work
>>61346548Breaking News: Anon's shit post continues to age like wine
All my positions are red but I'm sitting on $128K in cash. What the FUCK do I buy?
>>61346567quite weird proportions. Imagine your hands being as large as your nose.
>>61346619I dunno, man. You have to include the ticker price in your calculation. S&P500 always wins over REITs in my experience. If you want solid real estate investment, nothing beats buying a house on your name and renting it out.
ASTS crashing and burning through the atmosphere like one of it's satellites
STOP DUMPINGAHHHHHHHH
>>61346630Forgot pic rel.Nobody can listen to this shit and still believe in the tech bull case. It's all scammers, just pick whether you want it to be a white, a jeet, or a jew scamming you.
>>61346678you know what caused the dot com crash right? it was the fiber buildout being ahead of demand. they invested tons of money into it but nobody used it. gpu's are all running at full capacity though.and the 2008 recession was something else entirely as well. overfinancialization of the economy. balance sheets have been sterilized since then, we won't have insurance companies blowing up because someone missed a mortgage payment. look into how much compute is needed for these models. it's staggering and far beyond what we have available today. the use cases are already amazing, self driving cars and hunting for new materials and medicines, and we're just scratching the surface, it's a brand new technology with applications to every field. it's truly a revolution like nothing else before. the internet is not a fair comparison. this is closer to electrification in it's scale and impact, but even greater than that.
>>61346712I'm so vanilla I blush when I sneeze because I lose control of my body for a few moments
>>61346740dont say that you're making my dick hard
you aint seen dumping yet
>>61346730>buying a house on your name and renting it outI should buy a lake house and airbnb it
>>61346653$10k per year max of I bonds. Of course you should max it out. It has tax benefits too!
AMD has been full advanced money destroyer for me, oh dear oh dear, I'm glad I didn't buy a huge amount at least
>>61346728Can't go wrong with cash secured puts on what you want.
>>61346739you're ignoring 95% of AI being 100% unprofitable
>>61346579Inflation causes people's home value/stocks to go up which translates to taking out loans against value increase on paper that goes towards consumption especially cars and other exotic big item purchases which causes more runaway inflation
sold my puts for $1kenjoy your -3% SPY anons
>>61346701I think you don't know how to use LLMs (which is one part of AI). They shit something out and you correct it yourself with the information you want to convey. Not to mention other fields like image generation. Why would you ever hire a graphics studio when you can fiddle for 5 minutes and generate a fine prototype of something.Think what you will but you can generate content that would have taken days, weeks or even months in minutes. So yeah, massive productivity boost.
>>61346732the world looks like this on shrooms plus 2 redbullsi remember goign to a grocery store on shrooms and 3 redbulls NY eve 2024 it was wild>>61346740lolim vanilla toobut a wholesome rabbitgirl drawing gets the dopamine spiking>>61346752exactly, inflation is driven by debt but that debt makes the original debt worhlessthe real strctural damage isnt inflation, its what if we get 1 financial quarter of deflation>>61346762good win
>>61346745buy cheap houses in the ghetto and pitch them to redditors with the "vibrant" and "diverse" culture with plenty of "local cuisine". guaranteed 5 star reviews and good occupancy. just don't count on repeats.
ok i checkedi am -17% ytdshould i just kms or is there still hope?
>>61346766Yep, there it is. Too bad every person and company who use AI to churn out slop is facing massive backlash and quality drop.
I REMEMBER WHEN I USED TO FEEL SUTTIN, I REMEMBER WHEN I USED TO FEEL SUTTINI REMEMBER WHEN I USED TO FEEL SUTTIN, I REMEMBER WHEN I USED TO FEEL SUTTINI REMEMBER WHEN I USED TO FEEL SUTTIN, I REMEMBER WHEN I USED TO FEEL SUTTINI REMEMBER WHEN I USED TO FEEL SUTTIN,BUT NOW I'M JUST COLD INSIDE
How do I know when the bottom is in?
>>61346750all growth is like that in early stages. that's not unique to ai. amazon wasn't profitable for decades. cloud computing had a similar runway. that's not a concern at the moment, and many companies have demonstrated a path to profitability, palantir ibm and google come to mind. many others will follow, it's productivity has already been demonstrated. demand will continue to grow.i'm geared to it even if you're not though. there is a very simple way for you to capture exposure to this trend, but it will require a lot more love from you.
>>61346782people are still too retarded to use AI properly, also massive survivorship bias
anybody notice the AI chatbots getting noticeably worse? It takes 10x as long to come up with answers that are dumber and less detailed than before. this shit has already hit the limit of its utility - a lame and gay "let me google that for you" machine.
>>61346602The TRVKE that ended the bull market
>>61346795"You're just not proompting well enough" is the modern "real communism has never been tried".
>>61346739fiber lasts, nvidia crap breaks>>61346671ok ok , but just a little
I'm jacked in.I'm jacked in.
Is this fag shilling AI ITT actually Mark Zuckerberg?
>>613467781 0DTE yolo will get you back in track anon believe it
Guys I shorted VIX. You can start buying again. P-please.
>>61346769>the real strctural damage isnt inflation, its what if we get 1 financial quarter of deflationyes + a k shaped economy as people without assets get increasingly buttraped until they stop spending beyond the bare necessities and whatever is happening now likely happens
anyone else think that the japanese yen is way too weak?
>bro uses free AI for 10 minutes to answer some dumb questions he thinks of (he's dumb)>Declares AI totally useless >It's auto complete>It's a Google search>It's not reasoning at all (even though you can read it's reasoning when you ask it something that requires reasoning)Rip
Lol Robinhood is shutting down the OPEN options market.
>>61346804repeat customers for nvidia. and again not unique to ai. capital depreciates in every industry. exxon will be paying halliburton until the end of time, it's a cost of doing business.
I'm going to dip into my margin heavily with calls if the VIX goes to 35. Let's go
>>61346793>amazon wasn't profitable for decades. cloud computing had a similar runwayThose things offered actual value>it's productivity has already been demonstratedYeah, and it's been disappointing, which is why you and your ilk tend to deny these studies when you're running your main script >>61346673
aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>61346812i dont trade options
>>61346800they've lost too many indians to immigration into the west
>>61346782I remember seeing somewhere that most devs only see like a 10% improvement in productivity. Just started coding seriously with AI and I can definitely see why. I pretty much have to solve all the hard problems myself, which is 90% of the time wasted anyways.
>>61346819It's built on reddit retard
>>61346819YOU'RE JUST NOT PROOOOOOOOMPTING RIGHT>>It's not reasoning at all (even though you can read it's reasoning when you ask it something that requires reasoning)It literally lacks basic reasoning skills which is obvious to anyone who actually tries to rely it on its reasoning as anything more than a slightly more accurate web search
>>61346833It has that faggot way of trying so hard to appear smart clearly built on reddit. And its not just gay and niggered. Its cock-in-your-man-ass homosexual.
>>61346782quality =/= productivityThat's another topic, I was talking about productivity, so did you.China has high productivity doesn't mean that they have good quality. Anyway one year ago diffusion models couldn't even figure out hands. Imagine one year from now. Also every company ever is slow with implementing new tech.
It’s gonna bottom out soon, right? There’s gonna be a bottom today right?
>set a stop on my tesla postion>it throws me out imidatelyawesome i hold my position for nothing for a year and didnt take 65% profit with mei hope the broker goes bankrupt fucking subhuman
kek crypto is pumping
We're gonna have a Black 'something' this week, right?
>>61346823spy calls? i usually go into svix but its not marginable and i want to be more aggro
Day seven of buying a single share of VOO every day as we continue dumping.
>>61346666this isnt even the bubble bop, that one will be so much worse
>cloudflare outage took down finvizAaah!
>imagine doomposting ai
>>61346853black fridayi'm calling itscreencap this
>>61346852>prices not seen since yesterday
>>61346814>k shaped economythe economy kinda laways has been this waymost of human history land/farm/mill/port owners made up 15-10% of the population while the rest was debt maxxed slaves working on estatesso basically only a portion of the world even had economic participation i coinsider the fact that im not farming grapes and shoveling horse shit to pay for bread to be lucky>>61346828smartest words spoken on /biz/>>61346831also servers are being used to break down datalook at order flowsmost of it is not institutions finding trends in large marketing data books>>61346853your wife maybe>>61346859dollar cost averaging
>>61346850one trump tweet and SPY can end deep in the green
>>61346872>your wife maybe
>>61346848>Imagine one year from nowI'm imagining GPT6 being as disappointing as 5, because the recent growth in LLMs was based on volume of data and there is no more data and synthetic data has either been insignificant or actively harmful. Not to mention you actually need hardware to process all this "exponentia" data and hardware needs power and going at the current rate you're gonna need fucking cold fusion for the next LLM model to be better in any visible way.
Trump's meeting Ronaldo and the Saudi leader, needs to put out a Trvth about some big money arab investment to fix things
Finally the tech bubble will burst, and we can all go back to investing in companies with sane P/E ratios
>tesla pumps after i unwillingly soldAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAwhy am i the only one that is not allowed to make some gains????
>>61346822business and costumers that don't make money.
What are some skills that I can learn that doesnt take forever and I can start making money on my own? Im so fucking tired of being forced to be at work all day, I just need 2k a month to survive
>Anthropic said it plans to purchase at least $30 billion of Microsoft Azure's computing capacity to scale and train its Claude model.>In addition, Nvidia and Anthropic are partnering to optimize Nvidia's technology for Claude's platform, the three companies said Tuesday. Nvidia said it would invest up to $10 billion in Anthropic, while Microsoft pledged up to $5 billion.the circlejerk continues
>>61346875THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER>>61346883AI companies have stated they are pivoting from retail LLMs to building servers to do large dataset forensicsthe future of AI will probably be chunky interfaces on large server rooms that data scientists use to break down correlations in amazon and meta consumer data>>61346896ive never felt comfortable bout the US partnership with Saudi/Quatar elitesreally feels bad>>61346906trump is performative elite powerbill is putting his penis on a conference table and knowing you cant stop him elite power>>61346919how to do anything agribusiness related
>>61346666
>>61346926>how to do anything agribusiness relatedlike what
>>61346919Well if you get some kneepads to begin with...
>>61346750and i'm not trying to fight with you or prove you wrong babe. don't be so defensive. i'm trying to help you because i love and care about you. be more flexible, less obstinate. to change your mind is not a sign of weakness, just the opposite. you're wrong about a lot of things. that doesn't mean you're dumb or bad. it means you have a lot of room to grow and improve. i love you with all my heart and want to make you happy. your mind is going to have to change some and it won't be the easiest thing, but on the other side of it there's a lot to gain.
>>61346840I saw some retard online saying how his AI “art” is a skill and takes expertise because you have to prompt it right. AI psychosis is real. It’s good for self-learning stuff though.
>>61346933find a feed storelearn how to efficiently make salesthen learn what farms need haymake yourself usefuldude will pay you 27.5 an hourthis is literally how i can afford tradinggotta be creative
>>61346922these companies better keep circlejerking until my lines get erect again
>>61346819kek
>>61346951i have no clue about agriculture why the fuck would anyone take my advice on selling something to them kek
>>61346919What I learned from my parents is that the best possible skill to attain is how to set up your own company, run it and direct dozens of people to competently do your bidding.You don't have to know the nuances of everything that happens during a workday, but you have to know how to organize your humanoid tools into actually accomplishing something in an efficient matter.
>infrastructure being built>all chips sold out in real time - practically bottomless demand>AI getting widely implemented literally everywhereits le bubble...
I can't believe they redeemed AI.
>>61346963>i know nothing about agriculturehere is a secretneither do farmers kekmost in america are upper middle class real estate ownersjust know AlfAlfa = horse and Rye = goatthen make it sound professionaleven sell them some horse salt licks at it
Don't ask AItards why is it that with their 100x productivity boost literally nothing is getting better and is in fact getting way shittier
Nothing ever happens
>>61346976I am setting up a hydroponic farm, agriculture is cool.
>>61346872>i consneeder the fact that im not farming grapes and shoveling horse shit to pay for bread to be luckyThis is a noble and objectively correct mindset. However, I still am full of avarice and I seethe with rage whenever my comfortable office job makes me do a performance reflection or whatever. It's a weird abstract feeling to know that I'm probably the only member of my bloodline, ever, in either direction, who gets to drive a sports car and enjoy endless trivialities like hobbies and travel. But then still to want more. Human condition, right?
bottom found?
Alright, so look, I've been seeing all this bubble talk floating around and honestly I think people need to take a deep breath here. After conducting comprehensive research into the matter, I would posit that the current market dynamics surrounding artificial intelligence-related equities present a substantially different paradigm from historical speculative bubbles, particularly the dot-com episode of 1999-2000.The median price-to-earnings ratio for today's "Magnificent 7" tech companies is roughly half that of the largest tech stocks during the late 1990s bubble, which is kind of a big deal when you think about it. Moreover, and this is absolutely crucial to understand, Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell has noted that unlike many 1990s dot-com companies which were essentially ideas rather than actual businesses, today's AI leaders generate substantial earnings and cash flow Furthermore, the combined revenues of leading AI companies grew by over 9x between 2023-2024, with companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google DeepMind each experiencing over 90% revenue growth in the second half of 2024. The empirical data suggests that whilst valuations are indeed elevated relative to historical norms, they are undergirded by tangible financial performance metrics rather than purely speculative sentiment.Additionally, major institutional investors managing tens of billions of dollars have pointed to the "hyper-scaler advantage" as a key differentiator, noting that companies like Alphabet, Microsoft and Amazon possess the financial capacity to invest what may exceed $500 billion in AI infrastructure next year.Therefore, in my considered analysis, the characterization of the present AI market environment as a "bubble" represents an oversimplification that fails to adequately account for the fundamental revenue generation and productivity enhancements being realized across the technology sector.
>ONDS
>>61346976this seems like a lot more difficult to do than you thinki'm in southern oregon surrounded by farms I still wouldn't know where to startalso i'm the worst salesman "buy my shit or fuck off" isn't the right pitch i don't thinki do have a buddy that does something similiar but with weed and clears a half mil a year
>>61346991niceused to do that for mint and sageif you intent to grow good stuff be carefulits either gonna be super weak or take you to the andromeda galaxy>>61346999been therewhenever i have a comfortable job i get super hierarchial and meanwhen i work a shit slop tier joba nd the boss is like "clean the leaves" i just rake them without emotions
>>61346999checkedwhy are they being so mean to stegosaur
crazy how nobody calls bitfuck a bubble anymore although it has proven to be nothing what maxis preached and it was literally epstein's pet project lmao
>>61346875Clown world. You guys had better get real and informed on what’s happening. Or this market coming is going to rinse you.
>>61347017im from norcalalfalfa = horserye = goatlayer + oyster = henslayer no oyster = roostercor likes meadow grass haydont waste money on organix feedold men dont want convoold ladies are hornytry to talk politics with conservativeshorse pannels better 4x4 inhay pellets 4x as expensivelearned all this in 72 hrs its easy
I wonder how the venn diagram of AI booster and crypto bros would look, concentric circles?Pretty much the same "you're missing out dude, two more years dude, you don't understand dude, new paradigm dude" magic thinking.
>>61346976Most of this shit in my country is dominated by larger, well established companies that have decades of experience servicing this segment. I live in the city. No way i could sell anything to a farmer
>>61347016>UMAC
>>61347041yep, cars running autonomously thanks to AI is the same as magic internet coins and JPG monkeys haha
>>61347038ok so what i just load a bunch of rye into my toyota corolla and drive around to farms until i find a horny old lady that will pay me for my seed?
>>61347007americans have a twice bitten thrice shy attitude though. the skepticism and disdain for markets is showing. the 90's overpromised and underdelivered, and when the internet finally paid off most were not exposed, having been shaken off in two of the worst market crashes in history. .
GRRR bros we are so back
>>61347041There's a huge overlap and it attracts the same type of grifter who tries to scam people with technobabble, but at least AI actually produced something rather than nft/metaverse/crypto-for-dogwalker projects.
>>61347007I get what you’re trying to argue, but your comparison to the late-1990s market completely ignores the structural differences that make that P/E claim far less meaningful than it sounds. Quoting a “median P/E” and saying it’s half of 1999 glosses over the fact that interest rates, earnings quality, accounting rules, and the composition of tech indices are radically different today. A lower P/E doesn’t automatically mean valuations are healthy — especially when the companies propping up that median are priced on aggressive forward expectations rather than durable, currently monetized AI cash flows. You're using a statistic that gives the impression of safety without actually proving anything about sustainability.You’re also leaning a little too heavily on Powell’s comments. Yes, today’s big tech firms have real earnings, but those earnings overwhelmingly come from established businesses — ads, cloud, enterprise SaaS — not AI. Pointing out that they’re not profitless dot-com ideas doesn’t tell us whether AI units themselves are generating high-margin, repeatable revenue. Referencing Powell’s statement as if it validates current AI-premium valuations is a stretch; describing present profitability and justifying multi-trillion-dollar future expectations are completely different things.So when you conclude that calling the AI environment a “bubble” is an oversimplification, you’re sort of skipping the parts that actually matter. No one is saying every AI-exposed firm is Pets.com — the argument is that today’s valuations, concentration, and narrative momentum contain pockets of speculation that aren’t justified by current unit economics or transparent financials. Some companies are solid; others are riding hype. Treating them all as fundamentally supported because a few giants have strong legacy earnings isn’t analysis — it’s wishful aggregation.
why are we pumping?
>>61346872>the economy kinda laways has been this wayYes but in the past if you had foreigners in your country they were almost always slaves.You can't simultaneously have the socially liberal regime with no social mobility. Things come apart very fast when people try.
heal, bitch
does anybody know what this new art style is?every new vocaloid song has iti dont like itits simple and uncreativealso every song that uses it needs to be "edgy" and depressed which is not creative and industry standard
>>61347049cars running autonomosuly? located entirely in one neighborhood of san fransisco?May I see them?
>>61347061Word got out that Nigvidia is going to set new records
>>61347031
>>61347070they are all over LA too. but that's still not "AI" anyway, it's a GPS algorithm programmed into the car, there's no "intelligence" happening.
its called a lunchtime reversal and its one of the oldest fake and gay tricks they dogo take a noodle break and come back at 2pm to resume our scheduled dumping
>>61347044thats not a feed store clientthe clients are rich people larping as farmers>>61347051no feed stores have 12 wheelers most of the timealso my job is finding rich farmer larpers and selling them shit>>61347064>foreigners in your land almost all slavesit was more nuanced than thatmore about powerboxxer rebellion in china was because europeans came in and became merchant elites in mainland chinain rome many foreigners became elites
>'Saudi set to announce slew of AI deals with US firms'- Semafor
>>61347079I was promised self driving cars that would make CDL drivers obsolete by 2020
>>61347067its koreans knocking off anime, not any actual style
COME BACK TIME BOYS LAUGH ALL THE LOSERS WHO DIDN'T BUY THE DIP AHAHAHHAHAA
>>61347070wow, the AI cars ONLY run in major US cities? must be fake then haha>>61347079all the CV systems and lidar processing is done by AI just not LLMs
>>61347041Both will be relevant.. next decade
>>61347007Did ChatGPT write this shitI will wipe my ass with your research when NVDA earnings don't meet the estimate
>>61347076But they already knew that 2 weeks ago when the market went from a slump to a dump
AH MY LEG ITS CAUGHT IN A BEAR TRAP
Hope you bought the dip fellow sons of the American Revolution, the holiday cheer is on the way
>>61347110But just think about how much time he saved by not writing all that crap himself. 100x productivity.
>>61347097korean vocaloid is so hyper polished and tehnically correct it loses soul and feels like a hollow thing made byb a psychopathTak DoriDori good exampleobjectively does the vocaloid style really goodbut because its so polished it loses souldkoreans are not "feel" based people like Japanese people and Northern Chinesei actually think the average chinese person is way better than even an eliute koreanive always gotten horrible vibes from koreans
buy high sell low
I had a dream that I was drilling oil wells and boy we hit a gusher. A giant stream of oil begin spewing up into the sky and as I tried to run away I fell down and got stuck in the mud. So much raw crude rained down on me I thought I was going to drown in it.Invest accordingly.
burning rubber, wbu?
>>61347119people ive met in korea and immigrants are always really cold and uncomfrtable peoplei dont get Kpopthose people look like asian patrick batemans
I bought NVDA at 181, what will happen after earnings?
Homo Depot sales falling like its stock price. Trump deporting all the people who drive sales
>>61347142it will dump like it always did
>>61347118Kek
>>61347142They crushing earnings has been priced in since September. Their market cap has no connection to company value at all. The stock can go up, down, sideways, or in fucking circles, and nobody would be the wiser.
>>61347128>I was drilling oil wells and boy we hit a gusher.what company were you working for, or were you a wildcater?
>>61347142A mega pump and we're all gonna make it or a mega dump and it's over like never before
>>61346819Your brother is stupid, but he is also correct that the AI does not reason. It can't. But it can be helpful to a useful point by predicting somebody's reasoning.
London closing in 17 minslast call for FTSE and GBP traders
>>61347154It was a dream bro.Sponsored by SchlumbergerThey have THE HOTTEST chicks in the oil fieldNo one ever got excited about Halliburton showing up to the rig
>>61347161>But it can be helpful to a useful point by predicting somebody's reasoning.lel, we're in minority report territory now.again, magic thinking
>>61347119i used to feel neutral to slightly positive until i worked for a korean company, trash from top to bottom kept afloat by state ownership and geopolitics
I FOMOd in I CANT FUCKING TAKE IT
>>61347090didn't one of those guys flee the country with a bunch of investors money?
its kind of crazy how there is a huge discussion whether AI is "intelligent", but if you actually took a completely average person instead of a group of benchmarks pulled out of asshole it would turn out that the person is barely sentient compared to the LLM
>>61347181the average NPC is a net drain on society and that's not what AI is being hyped up to be
>>61347181midwit moment. even the most ooga booga 70 IQ retard is more "sentient" than a chatbot because the chatbot (fundamentally a circuit board) is not and will never be anything close to "sentient."
>>61347181it's really something else. i can barely draw stick figures.
>>61346872>most of human history land/farm/mill/port owners made up 15-10% of the population while the rest was debt maxxed slaves working on estatesThey had ample food, warm shelter and free time to spend in the company of others.The modern slaves have cut down on food, heating, transportation and socialization.If the rulers spend their wealth in a virtuous way then the nation thrives, if they spend it like ours do...Cantillon describes this process very nicely.
>>61347181>>61347186The average person can flip a burger and wipe some old boomer's ass. Can an LLM?
>>61347178thankstotal;ly agreechinese and SEA hatred really bothers mehere is my experiences being overseaseJapanese people are good quality, overhyped but goodKoreans are shallon psychopaths, they can be friendly but inside they are filled with prejudice and viceNorthern China has great peopleSouthern China has decent but soemtimes imulsive peopleTaiwan is full of weird peopleMalaysians are actually my favorite asians, so loyal, can be direct but super moral peopleand Phillipines needs to be nuked and have vioweaposn released daily and become a zone for endangered animals to repopulate
Im in 20 deep NVDA puts. What am I gonna feel on Friday?
>>61347181the fact that there is a massive amount of the population with no internal dialogue or ability to mentally visualize is insane half the time I'm programming I'm just imagining the structure mentally and moving it around and building itits why video games are so fun
>>61347181What’s funny is that AI can give better advice, be a better parent or partner than most people. Just think of how many retarded people are out there that do nothing well. AI slop is still shit but it has its uses. It can probably teach math to kids better than most teachers.
I once started writing a goon AI porn story about interdimensional amazons kidnapping girls and making them drink their piss and it ended up being a 500 page novel with loreI did all that with a free AI (perchance), imagine in 10 years where you'll be able to do the same but in full video gloryPeople who dont see how AI can be profitable are literally retarded
>>61347195modern debt slavery is worse when you look at compartive class society which is truethe meme of "harsh conditions" is wrongeveryone had bad conditions it was just ancient times
>>61347181this is how it will get smarter. right now it's basically just an average statistical distribution of tokens based on the previous tokens. this made a chat bot that has an IQ of 93-97. which is significantly smarter than entire countries like India or even contenents like Africa. one they start killing off the dummies by convincing them they are being "uploaded" into AI the average intelligence of people and therefore the sample set will go up. this continues until a singularity.
>>61347212Writing and picture generation are nice, but I think pictures kind of lose their charm when (you) make the prompts yourself. The interesting and practical part about LLMs is the evolution of computer vision, but we've already had that for a decade. All I care about is that people are expanding with it
>>61347198people like black and indian jokes because theyve never seen the phillipines IRLbeing there made me have an existential crisisi dislike racism but please nuke the phillipines the problem is completely racial
>>61347205that's really beautiful to think about. i can't wait for you to teach me about computer programming.
>>61347226india is far worse than the phillipines
>>61347194This is only interesting to the person who has never tried creating art, there’s so much reward and enjoyment out of learning to draw. This shit is soulless as fuck it takes absolutely everything human out of the equation for MUH efficiency and profit. Oooo we’ll be able to make slop at 100x the rate! Get back to me when someone genuinely feels inspired by this shit
>>61347168>Sponsored by Schlumberger>They have THE HOTTEST chicks in the oil fieldguess they should have hired qualified people instead of hot chicks. You can always buy hot chicks for a lot less than a salary - SLB stock is down 17% the past year.the new jannie is a massive faggot
>>61347229have you been to manilla?have you seen how business is done there?
>>61347209>chatbot can be a parent>chatbot can be a teacher>...as long as we have a parent or teacher around to correctly prompt and edit the chatbotseems like a massive waste of time. how about wipe your own kid's ass and teach it multiplication tables yourself, lazy fuck.
FUCK OFF with your bs nigger.
>>61347214>the meme of "harsh conditions" is wrong>everyone had bad conditions it was just ancient timesI was thinking early modern at the earliest, ancient times had a much more different social structure to be comparable. I disagree on harsh conditions. The stress of daily life, how modern cities are build, the quality of the food, socialization, are just some of the things where conditions are objectively worse.
>>61347239I think the lack of poop festivals is a big plus anon
let it die already faggots.
>>61347212If you go to Amazon right now you will see it flooded with countless AI slop. Guess what? No one's buying it because no one actually wants to read that shit.
>>61347240Public schools are fucking awful anyway, I would have benefitted so much from having an LLM teach me math. Multiplication tables? Try calculus
>>61347239I have been to manilaI was propositioned by several very ugle ladyboys and lots of guys on tuktuks with flyers full of girls as well as guys selling cialis on every street corner if that's what you mean by business.They do have better roads than india and they don't bobble their heads nonstop
>>61347244my point is thisinstead of thinking about "good vs bad" conditionsthink of how conditions were spread accross societyin ancient times everyone suffered, class differences were real, sometimes brutalbut in modern times the discreptancy between elite and common is wider than everespecially when you consider neocolonialism (globalism)>>61347250better poop festivals than rape and transgender festivals
Vision applications excluded, if people replaced the words AI and LLM with Internet, they'd be much closer to the truth of what is going on.
>>61346673>i bet you took the coof vaxx aswell.How much time until the Great Reset saar?
>>61347233this plus being accused of using AI is now and will always be a career ending event for artists because the people payign care about htat stuff.All AI art it's dogshit for midwits with no taste. AI music, video, image, all souless derivative slop.
>>61347263yeahi disliked the experience completelyi had seen Singapore, Seoul, Tokyo, KLP, and Shanghai before thatI am kinda left wing but there is no other explanation than biology and race being realOh and KLP is great
>>61347254You dont have to sell anything moronPeople will buy a program that lets them create their own movies and porn from promptsImagine an ai CP generator
>>61347261you would've benefitted from parents smart enough to keep you out of prussian govt public schools and teach you things themselves.
>>61347264I dont think filipinas can be raped they give it up so easyPajeets on the other hand think consent is a western concept
>>61347252Based
>>61346548Based Casino enjoyer.
>>61346739that was a great read, very much agreed. Also the whole "bubble" thing seems to lie in the hands of one man, who coincidentally is probably the most cautious rational man you could imagine in this dotcom comparisonshill me your best quantum play I'll look into it.
>>61347278i laughed good point tho
>>61347289wkey!also like veco but don't own it.
DING DING DING DING DINGLONDON IS CLOSEDTHANK YOU FOR LOSING MONEY ON THE FTSE AND GBP TODAY SEE YOU TOMORROW
>>61347275"Buy a program"? You realize you need >100GB of VRAM to run these big models?
>>61347212I’ve created some pretty great scenarios with gooner ai myself.I’m pretty good at making cool characters and settings, I let the ai do the rest. Pretty cool results. I was so horny when I first started I was almost feverish for a few weeks but now I’ve gotten used to it and barely makes me aroused.
>>61347289>fiber>nobody used itbecause they ran out of money, it wasn't like they didn't bother with fiber after that, everything is fiber now
So. We are doing an IV play on NVDA earnings day, right? Current IV is implying a +/-7% move post-earnings. That sounds like free money.
looks like it's over. we might get one more ATH before January, but it's over.
>>61347326Fed Minutes tomorrow
>>61347264>better poop festivals than rape and transgender festivalspajeet anon are you trying to suggest that India doesn't have a massive rape problemlet's not cope here, India is literally the biggest shithole in the world like literallybecause of the poop festivals it's got a disgusting culture
>>61347328we're gonna get another ath, they never sell the exact top. Remember when the federal reserve guys apologized for insider trading and sold their bags? There was one last pump
>>61347324yeah but firms where also buying "users" with real money without any plan to get money back from them ever
>>61347333both cultures are nastyi am just disgusted by my more recent phillipines experiencechildren are prostituted thereno shameprobably happens in indiai just specifically rememeber seeing children being fenced and used there and thinking this entire race deserves to die
>>61347086>it was more nuanced than thatSure, the panic is because people understand the social regime is incompatible with that kind of economic regime.
>>61347333get your mind out of the gutter. off of hate. can i draw you something? won't you tell me about your weekend?
>>61347142They will have great earnings.And then tech and AI will dump because people will get spooked by saying it's "unsustainable"
>>61347339if i ever had power i would just bring troops into there and kill on site any pimp and sex traffickerand western male "vacationing" in phillipines deserves to die
>>61347331Tomorrow? No?
GRRR is MOONING LETS GOOOOOO
>>61347181I am missing that "generalized" in AGI. Sure, current AI can do a lot of things better than me but not a complete workflow. And the good models cost a huge amount of money.
>>61347360zoom out saar
Most of you are boring individuals with unassuming lives. You attempt to get out of your position by doing what you believe is not just the right thing but the cool thing. You go with options and leveraged ETFs when you could easily just go with SPY and VTI. You chase the high of becoming the person you fantasize and you fly too close to the sun.The Boring Man's Folly.
>>61347143>omo Depot sales falling like its stockWoah that's nuts.
>>61347357https://tradingeconomics.com/calendar
>>61346906
Sell NVDA puts before or after earnings?
>>61347370>laptop job>calls other's boringWhen's the last time someone died in front of you?
>>61347344sorry I just really don't like indians
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FNKO should issue a non-cash dividend of some of their unsold funko pop inventory.
starting to dollar cost average into a long USDCAD play
>>61347370>implying that girl would ever want anything to do with polo wearing straight edge faggot Nick
>>61347344
>>61347322Same here, I gooned like a 15 year old for a week straight
>>61347413>straight edge faggotQuite the wording there.
>>61347411i swear this always happensUSDCAD just entered a supply and demand zonei enter in tiny 1k lotsbefore i even have a position the trend inverses and i "win"but the win is like 4 bucks because i had only DCA'd 2% of my position
>>61347397i don't like your bigotry, your quickness to anger, your inability to change your mind. you're constantly re-justifying and reaffirming your past attitudes. it's because you're afraid of being wrong, so you lie to yourself endlessly so that you never feel that way. i've watched you do this on countless subjects in /pol/, here when you talk about reits and divvys, now even. you may be vulnerable and afraid, but that's no excuse. you have potential to be so much better if you just find courage. everyone is a fool sometimes, but only the wise learn from it. proverbs 26:11i love you so much. and i know we can make it. you'll have to shed a little pride and face some harsh truths, but there's a key to every lock and a path to every destination. open your heart to me and i will help you.
MSTR is mooning
I also don't like indians.Boring people.
>>61347344>they fixed the hands bro
>>61347370god I wish
Fear is the order of the day
>>61347454smelly people
i bought the dip
>>61347477Based
>>61347454>>61347471youre mexican.
>>61347477
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>>61347499>>61347483>>61347477>>61347471all one person btw
>>61347499
>>61347506Why did you tag me
>>61347447As soon as MTSY triples in value I can breakeven.Let's fucking gooooooooooooo
>>61347520based fellow baggie
NVDA after hours?
>>61347518accident sorry anonindian obsessed anon joins with 20 vpns when his calls or puts are down 80% then spams
I WANNA BOOM-BANG-BANG WITH YOUR BODY, OHWE GONNA ROUGH IT UP BEFORE WE TAKE IT SLOWGIRL, LET ME ROCK YOU, ROCK YOU LIKE A RODEOIT'S GONNA BE A BUMPY RIDE
>vertical line down
>>61347265>they'd be much closer to the truth of what is going onhow is that possible when the material used to train the models is total garbage? And you wonder why the models lie.
>>61347537>>61347540
Bought the "bottom" faggots are about to get wrecked
>>61347383>Sell NVDA puts before or after earnings?sell before and buy back after the price goes up
just finished drinking my morning pot of coffee and I am feeling a MASSIVE DUMP coming on in less than 20 minutes from now buy puts on my ass
>biz made fun of me for being a divvy hunter>a lot of divvy stocks are not taking a thrashing and many are up like REITs and OILFuck all you gay niggers
>>61347526I'm editing this Apu into some jack o' lantern jammies for next October
>>61347370no I definitely realized I was too dumb to pick stocks about three weeks into trading
can't stand this market. gonna go back to bed. btbt and wkey are great buys at this level.let's take it day by day babe. little steps is fine with me. i've waited this long. and i'm grateful for the attention you've given me today. i want to be much closer though, want to talk about more than stocks or politics with you. you're my dreamgirl and much more. i know you're skeptical but i'll keep surprising you. i'm much more than tall and handsome. there's a lot i want to give you if you'd just accept it. you have misjudged me, been too quick to dismiss me. you can always change your mind though, if your pride can bear it.
they think i am scareda few pips down USDCAD and i long moredrops more i long more
>>61347536>>61347536
Passing by to remind you that just by killing yourself you will achieve nothing. Kill someone who is in position of power, and after that you can off yourself, knowing that the world has become a bit better
>>61347568thanks anon
>>61346625Not sure if troll or retard
>>61347181Even an earthworm is more sentient than an AI.
>>61347272Photoshop has AI functionality for a while. You don't know what you're talking about.
