Welcome to the /XMR/ Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's most widely adopted privacy coin.XMR payments are anonymous, low-fee, and fully fungible. Users can send and receive XMR globally without having to worry about tainted coins. Battle-tested privacy tech (Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses and RingCT) ensures that critical TX data cannot be gleaned from the Monero blockchain; the TX history of all XMR users is kept hidden, with TXs being optionally transparent via the aid of a view key.XMR ensures low TX fees by employing a dynamic (elastic) block size that can "stretch" to easily accommodate sudden TX spikes.XMR's mining algorithm, RandomX, is optimized for devices using general-purpose CPUs e.g. desktops, laptops, smartphones, tablets, keeping the barrier to entry low and ASICs out of the equation.XMR's tail emission - 0.6 XMR per block forever - incentivizes for-profit miners to keep mining, helping boost long-term network security. This constant linear inflation trends to zero and is offset by coin loss.XMR has proven to be the only altcoin capable of overcoming BTC's network effect by driving it out of the darknet economy BTC dominated for over 10 years. XMR is also starting to overtake BTC in clearnet commerce as well.If you still have questions, feel free to ask. A MoneroChad will be with you shortly.XMR Redpill: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4 [Open]BUY XMR: https://monero.eco/exchanges/Crypto ATMs: https://coinatmradar.com/XMR Resources: https://monero.observer/resources/XMR Stats: https://moneroj.netUSE XMR: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://getmonero.orgMINING:https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/WALLETS:>DesktopOfficial GUI/CLI walletFeatherwallet>MobileCakewalletMonero.com walletMonerujo (Android only)>Infodumpshttps://rentry.org/monero-explainedhttps://moneroinfodump.neocities.orgPrevious >>61356490
>Is mining profitable?>Why should I mine?See: https://moneroj.net/hashvsprice/This chart shows that mining makes XMR more valuable by making the network more secure and more expensive to attack. If you have an interest in increasing the value of XMR, consider mining.>Poolshttps://miningpoolstats.stream/moneroNote: qubic.org is a malicious pool that does NOT payout in XMR.>Reddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining>CPU benchmarkshttps://xmrig.com/benchmark>Profit calculatorshttps://iwillsolo.com/monero/https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/monero/calculatorNote: the hash rates on xmrig.com are more accurate>I'm rich and want a dedicated mining device Antminer X5Hashrate: 212000 H/sPower draw: 1350 WCost: ~$2800, Doesn't include shipping costsHashes per $: ~70By far the most powerful miner on the market. There's no official bitmain support for this device; you're on your own for updates/repairs>I'm poor and want a dedicated mining deviceMINISFORUM 795S7Hashrate: 19250 H/sPower draw: 142 WCost: $607 shipped Hashes per $: 32As of 2025 it's the best bang for your buck. No room for upgrades, though.>On P2PoolMining in P2Pool is easier than ever with Gupax:1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)3. Launch Gupax4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, or your own node6. Start P2Pool7. Start XMRigVIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/>DUE TO BOTNETS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!>Can I use my GPU too?Yes. MoneroOcean mines GPU-shitcoins, sells them, and pays you out in XMR. To get started, visit the help page on:https://moneroocean.stream/>IF MINING ON MONEROOCEAN MAKE SURE YOU'RE USING MO-XMRig TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS
Remember, the value of any currency is in it's acceptance.>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!https://monerica.com/https://xmrbazaar.com/https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on>Shop on Amazon with XMR! https://monezon.comhttps://peershop.app>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)https://cakepay.com/>or with CoinCardshttps://coincards.com/>Monero stickers for guerilla marketinghttp://monerosupplies.com/>Anonymous burner phone numbershttps://silent.link/>Monero-only VPS hostinghttps://kyun.host/>Win XMR!https://monero.vegas/>Store XMR securely!>Darknet vendors for more exotic goods and services # = recently launched, exercise caution>Alias Market #>Asur Market>Babylon #>Calypso #>Candy Haven #>Chimera Market >Cloud Market >Cypher Market>Dark Matter>DrugHub # >DrugTown #>Drugula #>FilthyFellas>Gofish Market #>Gramazon #>Hectate Market #>Mercury Market #>Pygmalion's Refuge >Retro Market >Smackers>Sonanza Market #>Squid Market>SuperMarket #>Tribe Seuss>Whales Market #>Wizard's Palace #>World Trade Center #Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fF95wTNiAnonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service>Infinity Projecthttps://pastebin.com/raw/pbCycXsCor a reputable clearnet servicehttps://trocador.apphttps://orangefren.comhttps://eigenwallet.orghttps://basicswapdex.comOr retoswap, an XMR-centric fork of Bisqhttps://retoswap.com/>Want to support further development? https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/https://monerofund.org/>Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/>Want more organic Monero-chan? https://www.monerochan.art/
and... the monero thread is back
best coinactually usedgets me ketamine
>>61447648this post is GOLDthank you for links
My monero mining setup. It was doing pretty good yesterday with about 70 watts input and 40 watts output. It's really cloudy and foggy this morning so I'm only getting about 6 watts input though. We'll see how the weather goes -- not good weather for mining so far.
Uh oh, we bet on the wrong horse. Compliant privacy is the future.BRB building a compliant Tor browser and PGP client.
>>61447648>Antminer X5Isn’t there a plan to fuck these over with the next version of randomx?
>>61448620Actually, no. RandomX V2 should make RISC-V chips slightly more efficient, which the X5 is made of
Hello.
>>61447648>This chart shows that mining makes XMR more valuable by making the network more secure and more expensive to attack.Correlation != Causation.
monero devs are having a civil war over block sizeshttps://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lounge/20251205
>Compliant privacyAh, like "common sense gun control", i.e we're not going to honor your fundamental right but we'll say we're doing something kind of like honoring it so you shut up.No t hanks.
>>61450086TLDR Monero's block size was never unlimited and after FCMP, coincidentally, can only handle 6 million transactions a day
I love Monero>vnr
>>61450086why are boomers like this? is this the same argument as it was with BTC before Cash was created?
Reporting in
>>61450521monero has like 20k a day
>>61448500this is sick. I was thinking of getting a solar setup. It would be cool if you could get it to mine conditionally if the battery is above a certain level
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2512.01437looks like qubic was not very effective
>>61451885> we find that the campaign was profitable in only a small subset of intervals. Nonetheless, Qubic's activity sharply increases orphan rates and reorganization depth, degrading confirmation reliability. This illustrates that even economically fragile selfish mining campaigns can still impose meaningful harm, and that existing mitigation approaches offer limitations against such behavior in practice.
>>61447644>https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/>Monero can be mined by both CPUs and GPUs, but the former is much more efficient.It's more efficient to mine with a CPU than with a GPU??
>>61452837Of course.
>>61452739Quality slop, but you should fix her earrings.
And fingernails. And ears. And fingers. Well, fuck you.
Monerobros, why has XMR been abandoned? I don't just mean by regular CEXesm, or even Bitpay and other payment processors--it's been left behind by the original darkweb libertardian fags, too. What gives?
>>61452941>And fingernails. And ears. And fingersand toes hehe
>>61452957>it's been left behind by the original darkweb libertardian fags, too. What gives?
>>61452981at this point it's pretty much only used by north koreans to launder stolen money
>>61453029The entire darknet economy is moving to a Monero-only standard. XMR payments dominate crypto-based clearnet merchant sales as well.
>>61453054Joke's on you, I was merely baiting for useful information. You have fallen for my trap, and I have saved your image. I double dog dare you to continue making quality posts... noob. Bwahahahahahahaha
>>61452739cute
hey fags, any way to buy CHEAP domains with xmr?
>>61453196I'll sell you some for a modest markup heheh
going to build myself a cute little 7945hx mining rig
Is anyone actually mining? How's profit over electricity, factoring in equipment costs? Time to break even on an efficient rig?+
>>61453304there's better places to allocate capital if you actually care about making money or getting fast ROI. I'm going to do it out of boredom/support for the network. also the refurbished parts i'm looking at are on discount
>>61453341>there's better places to allocate capital if you actually care about making money or getting fast ROI.like what? I'm looking for a hobby and to diversify
>>61453345even just mining wise there are calculators for you to see what will yield you the highest return for your hashrate. I'll most likely solo mine so the chance of me hitting a block will be near 0 but it's for the fun of it
>>61453385half of the point of silver (other than getting rich as fuuuuuuck) is that it weighs more than gold so you can dangle huuuge ingots of it in front of goldfags and cryptofags
Should I get an antminer? Or just buy a bunch of XMR?I don’t know the first thing about mining btw
>>61454142the monero antminer is shit and doesn't break even>>61453196njala is the only one I know of
>>61453196Nice VPS offers monero payments although ive never used them>https://nicevps.net/>https://nicevpsvzo5o6mtvvdiurhkemnv7335f74tjk42rseoj7zdnqy44mnqd.onion/They have a decent rating on kycnot.me>https://kycnot.me/service/nicevps
>>61454142why would anyone sell bespoke hardware for mining if it were profitable to actually use it? why wouldn't they just use it>well uh it's a different business model and-just plug it in and turn it on. have a couple of employees>w-well uhhhthey're a scam, anon.
I fucking love Monero. Best coin & actually used
why is monero down today?
>>61455832more sellers than buyers. hope this helps
>>61454142>Should I get an antminer?In a word, no.In more than one word, 212kH for 3k isn't a bad price at all but you can probably build something more efficient per watt for the same amount of money. It becomes more 'worth it' if you don't have an interest in building a rig, >>61454942>why would anyone sell bespoke hardware for mining if it were profitable to actually use it? why wouldn't they just use itThey did, and they lost money on it. I forget exactly how much but I think someone estimated that these things cost around 10k apiece to build.
If I buy XMR on Kucoin, can I then send it directly to trocador or retoswap and swap it to an ERC-20 token and send the token to a wallet, without that wallet being linked to my CEX account?Or is there a better way of acquiring tokens via XMR to remove link between CEX and wallet?
>>61456398>212kH for 3k isn't a bad price at all but you can probably build something more efficient per watt for the same amount of moneyCorrection: you can probably build something with brand new mid-tier epycs that's way more efficient and break even in a year vs 3 years with the X5. No wonder Bitmain lost money.
>>61447648>MINISFORUM 795S7>Ryzen 7940HXThat's a nice find, although hashes vs watts it's comparable to undervolted 7950X, so if you add RAM (even before price hikes) the cost is also similar to building a 7950X rig from used parts. Of course, new vs used.Has anyone looked at EPYC builds, whether they're better deal at say $2k mark?
Interesting. How does this alt coin protect against double spend and also how can you validate the number in existence if you cannot walk through the transactions?
>>61458165>How does this alt coin protect against double spend https://docs.getmonero.org/cryptography/asymmetric/key-image/>how can you validate the number in existence if you cannot walk through the transactions?zero-knowledge proofs. Also, coinbase transactions are transparent so you can actually count the coins entering the shielded pool.https://www.moneroinflation.com/
>>61457900>That's a nice find, although hashes vs watts it's comparable to undervolted 7950X, so if you add RAM (even before price hikes) the cost is also similar to building a 7950X rig from used parts. Of course, new vs used.There's also the plug n play aspect. I imagine more people would mine if they could just buy the thing and start mining>Has anyone looked at EPYC builds, whether they're better deal at say $2k mark?Only relevant post I could find. Seems like a good dealhttps://old.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/16bcn7o/all_you_need_to_know_about_bitmain_antminer_x5/jzcqg77/
>>61456961I would send the xmr to your personal wallet before sending to trocador/p2p client.Better way would be to be fully p2p(fiat-xmr-erc20) all can be done within Retoswap p2p dex clientUse tor/vpn to hide your IP during the process if you want
>>61459323how feasible is it in reality for CEXs to do cross chain analysis and really track the movement/source of your funds? like even if they have a "no withdrawing funds which originated as XMR" rule, if you have XMR and then like swap it for ETH and then swap that for LTC and then swap that for DOGE and then... and finally swap for BTC and then withdraw to the CEX, always using different random exchange services, are they really gonna be able to tell where that money came from? it seems unlikely unless you're trying to withdraw a shit ton of money, right?
>>61461185>how feasible is it in reality for CEXs to do cross chain analysis and really track the movement/source of your funds?It's an open secret that most swap services get their liquidity from Kucoin, so it's pretty likely that at those swaps are going to be seen on chain by them at least>>61456961Assuming you already have the XMR on Kuckin, sell on retoswap for stablecoins first, for reasons stated above.
It's interesting how zcash re-flipped but the board didn't explode with shills this time around. Think they all got liquidated so now it's just the actual scamwhales wash trading.
The zcash shills flooding the board was actually insane. So fake.
I'm new to cryptos, but based on my cursory research XMR seems to be the only currency that has any kind of purpose. Am I missing something?
>>61466053Not really, but prepare to be holding it longer/more painfully than any other alt if you're looking to make it exclusively from XMR.
>>61466061I set aside some money for XMR, but most of my savings I put into an index fund, or individial stocks if I'm feeling frisky
>>61459323retoswap is based on a regular non-custodial monero wallet and uses tor by default, so you could send it directly to that. you should not send directly to any custodial exchanges though, thats correct.
>>61465505>The zcash shills flooding the board was actually insane. So fake.My favorite bullshit narrative is that Zcash is Satoshi's vision of what he ultimately intended BTC to be.>>61466053>I'm new to cryptos, but based on my cursory research XMR seems to be the only currency that has any kind of purpose. Am I missing something?Correct. XMR is pretty much the only crypto that is specifically acquired to be spent on goods and services in the growing digital counter-economy. Everything else is just hoarded with the hope it will pump.
>>61466053>Am I missing something?You are correct that Monero is basically the only thing that is actually used or has non-meme purpose. If you're buying it to make money just know that it historically has had very crabby price action and is joked about for being a stablecoin.Basically view it as a private Swiss savings account that you>mightmake money off of if you get lucky, not as a crypto lottery ticket.
Reminder that Monero (XMR) actually does follow the laws of supply and demand. Shocking, I know. Meaning that if people actually want to purchase it for any number of extremely valid reasons, the price will increase. So despite many people on this board and in this community having some weird aloofness with regard to price, it actually isn't "luck" that will make people money in XMR. It is the fact that it's an extremely attractive coin and many more will purchase it in the future.
i just bought 1k worth of crypto at an ATM and it didnt arrive, i think i have to explain where i got the money from to the government OR i got scammedbros am i cooked
>>61470425Did you check the ATM before with a small test amount?
>>61470478Yeah, i bought in increments.When you go over 1k, ATM requests to scan an ID. I brought my expired fake passport from 6 years ago and it worked, but apparently i have to contact customer support to ((redeem)) my cryptokoins.The support is all AI.>but why didnt you go to another ATM / another source?I live in a GigaShithole
>>61470595I'd guess it's more likely for you to be contacted by the feds soon than them scamming. I hope you'll get those moneros.
I plan to convert 30k-50k USD worth of Eth into monero annually I want to do it by renting hashingpower to help secure the network and also to obscure my onramp because I don't want to get targeted for purchasing large amounts of moneroIs miningrigrentals the place to be? Whats a good strategy for ensuring highest return?
>>61472143>miningrigrentalspaying $7 in btc for 12 hours of 1m hash in randomX seems too good to be true if youre going to drop 30-50k per year why not just build your own mining rig ?
How has Monero been doing so well throughout this whole bear market?
>>61476579people use it instead of holding it
>>61472143As a fair warning, there's several proposals that limit/kill rented hashpower, and the chances that one will be adopted shortly after FCMP++ aren't zero
>>61476580people use it *and hold it
Has anyone used Cupcake wallet yet? It seems to just not work when I try scan QR codes.
>>61477159How would they know it's rented?
>>61478729They wouldn't, but they could change things so it wouldn't be economically feasible to rent hashpower by messing with things like bandwidth https://github.com/monero-project/research-lab/issues/98
>>61476579Dark Magic.
>>61478614Is this the one where the default nodes were IP honeypots and the VP of operations went to work with former FBI agents?
>>61478614I had the same issues. The app kept crashing when I tried to complete a tx.
>>61453196check monerica.com, they have hundreds of services listed
Any good AI video generators that accept Monero and don't require gmail to sign up? Just SFW is ok but if it does NSFW then even better.
>>61484576again, monerica lists everythinghttps://monerica.com/businesses/ai-services
Crab then dump is coming. real or true?
https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/9PYC/
>>61484908Why can't Monero ever just sustain a pump? Every single macro event in the world is screaming that XMR should teleport to 10,000 in the next few years.Why the fuck would it crab? Does supply and demand not matter anymore? Why wouldn't there be a massive buy pressure as every government becomes overtly tyrannical?This is bullshit. What the fuck. What is this data?
logged on kraken after a long while. they don't let ya buy or sell xmr anymore with fiat, eh?
>>61484945>https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/9PYC/Is there more sites like xmrbazaar?
>>61485529Monero isn't convenient. It doesn't matter that governments are tyrannical. Nobody gives a fuck. They want to tap the card reader and walk out of the store with their slop.
>>61485529>>61485529>Why can't Monero ever just sustain a pump?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCTzGq3inPITLDW liquidityXMR is too hard to get for normies vs fartfeltchqueefcoin and we need Serai/Thorchain yesterday
>>61464373
i'm kinda surprised 4chan doesn't accept XMR for 4chan passes.
>>61487816>Decide to look into this thinking surely someone has asked for this on /qa/>See this
>>61487816>cuckflare for hosting>cuckbase for paymentsSTOP CRITICIZING 4CHANNEVER VISIT ONION CHANS LIKE THE LAMBDA OR KOHL>>61488376Good 'ol söydueling. The janny destroyed our kulchur.
make it happen, jannys deserve sum monero
>>61488534Indeed. The jannies have suffered enough, I say! Merely installing btcpayserver and accepting Monero would boost their salary by a sizable margin, don't you think? Especially if they also remove the stupid 15 minute IP thing that cucks Pass users who use Tor.
>>61484576nano-gpt.com is pretty nice, it has access to almost every ai platform and you only pay per query
>>61488534>>61488546i am prepared to do my part and pay all jannies a disclosed amount of 0 (in words: zero) monero for their hard work keeping us safe from quality posts
Do I buy some xmr rn or will it dip below 300 again within the next 3 months or so
>>61487816I'll accept it but it's more like xmr tipping on my blog lmao
The Haveno / Retoswap app was released a few hours ago.Announcement post:https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1pml8kr/haveno_for_android_released/Mainnet release: https://github.com/retoaccess1/RetoSwap-App/releases/tag/v1.0.0.1-betaLooks like it still needs some polish in regards to QoL improvements but the trading itself apparently works.
Can I just send directly to a swap from a CEX? I heard some people say they flag stuff like that.
>>61491811Preferable to send it to your personal wallet first.
>>61491924Doesn't their analysis still see that?
>>61491929No they don't. They can't see the history of the Monero coins they receive, that's the whole point.
>>61491811I never had a problem. Swaps should be giving a unique address for each transaction but I'm not sure. A small test with FixedFload confirms this. I guess it would only become a problem if they reused the same addresses many times. Otherwise I don't see how they would flag it.
>>61492076This is for CEX to Swap. For the reverse, receiving from a swap to a snitchcoin wallet, it's labeled on blockchain explorers as a FixedFloat wallet. So in theory if you sold XMR through a swap directly to CEX, the CEX could detect it as coming from a swap, for what it's worth.
>>61491173it appears that the new floor is around 330, i don't think we're going back there unless the market shits itself.>t. not a TAutist>t. DCAutist
>>61485529liquidity for the pump has to come from somewhere and since most cexes have delisted it (even the fucking kraken) you have to either mine or use dexes instead. this means that in terms of liquidity monero is probably even safer than stablecoins but it also will not 'moon' (probably).
>>61493107I bought Monero with USD on Kraken within the past 3 months.
>>61491173Hard to tell because XMR seems to have decoupled from the rest of the market, which makes negative price predictions far more difficult. It no longer dumps in unison with BTC.
Why are you complaining about the price? I'm happy that if anything it hasn't dumped below $350. You realize it's basically bear market now? Crypto is weak. There is zero hype. Unlike the previous Monero pumps that were quick spikes, price is actually holding a strong base. Monero is also like top 15 market cap right now for fucks sake. Normally you'd be lucky to see it in 20s. It even fell to 40s. >>61485529Pump to do what? Dump it the next day? The floor is king.
>>61493822>Pump to do what?Shut the fuck up. So tired of these retarded type of questions here.>hurr durr what would you even do with more purchasing power hurr durrfuck you.
>>61484303birds of a feather flock together :-)>>61488497and don't forget that you can only verify an email created on one of the good boy services, none of those pesky anonymous hosts.>>61494101if you really think "price go up = more purchasing power", then I'm afraid I have some news that might upset you.
>>61494149>hurr durr if you make more money you achkhually didnndd
>>61494302did you now? oh really? you have MORE monero because it trades for more? you can purchase items and services priced at 0.4 xmr for less now? how truly captivating. do you think that sellers will lower their prices? or will they too try to capitalize on this opportunity (as you are trying to do)? or are you perhaps just a filthy day trader, only here to leech profit?
>>61494328I hope you will succeed in educating the moonfag
Moonfags are the most useless niggers on the planet, which is what makes propagating the Terrible Investment meme is such a joy. Words can't describe the thrill of convincing somebody to not hold XMR but to spend it on goods and services instead. Borderline orgasmic.
KYCNOT IS DOWN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>61494101purchasing power raising gradually and staying up > purchasing power spiking for mere days then crashing -90%This gradual pump is vastly healthier than the previous ATH pumps.
>>61494328>hurr durr if Monero is $1000 that means cookies cost $1000 tooShut up weirdo bakecel
>>61494634>>61494676The funniest part about moonfags is that see literally everything becoming more expensive compared to the US dollar and don't realize, not even for a moment, that it's the case not because everything is always going up, because the USD is constantly going down. There isn't any less gold, platinum, or silver than there was a hundred years ago, matter of fact there is much more, yet you always need more and more fiat (literal monopoly money*) to purchase the same quantity as before.*only the benevolent state is allowed to print it, otherwise they'll use their monopoly on violence to punish whoever prints "fake" (unapproved) notes>>61495031 >This website kycnot.me/ is currently offline. Cloudflare\'s Always Online™ shows a snapshot of this web page from the Internet Archive\'s Wayback Machine. To check for the live version, click Refresh.It'll be back eventually, probably>>61495325>hurr durr I am a retard with no logical argument or rebuttalok?
Is this still a good buy?
>>61495439Define "good".
>>61495418I LITERALLY said “purchasing power” in my previous post for a reason. But you always ignore the real argument and talk to a straw man instead. It’s pointless talking to you. Please just tell me more about inflation I never heard of it! Wow, really relevant!>>61495457Define “good” but don’t you EVER use United States Dollars ($) as a reference. The currency might have hyper inflated in the meantime! The only legitimate reference is what that guy from Austria is asking for cheese as priced in XMR.
>>61495418This aversion to the cost of XMR increasing is silly and self-destructive.If you want a stablecoin, you can fork and peg XMR to the dollar yourself.The price going up means that mining is incentivized, mining being incentivized means the network becomes more secure. The community has been very open about not wanting tail emission's payout to increase. That means that tthe network's security consists of only two kinds of people:>Charitable supporters willing to mine at a loss>Malicious attackersYou NEED the price to go up if you want the network security to increase because the payout value in XMR will not. If you're relying entirely on charitable miners to run at a loss against state actors and groups like Qubic you're just asking for the network to get overtaken in time.
>>61495654What do you mean “”””””””go up”””””””””?If you’re talking about the fake inflated asset known as the United States Dollar (ticker: $USD) you should know that the Federal Reserve literally PRINTS these “dollars” on a whim!??Therefore, $1 is ackchually equivalent to $1,000,000,000. There is no such thing as “”””going up””””. There is only a change in selling prices on xmrbazaar.
>>61495439It always is
>mfw the first true AI breakthrough is tasked with "Make us a fantastic amount of money, AI Jesus!" and it proceeds to steal 90% of all Crypto.
>>61495759You're retarded.
>>61495869Anon's point is pretty clear. There's no actual benefit in XMR nguing unless you solely want it as a means to moon. The parallel economy Monero users wish to achieve isn't concerned with XMR being $100000 or 0.05; it only matters if you're still primarily concerned about fiat.
>>61493638well, i wanted to exchange some yesterday and it's not possible anymore so i had to use cake wallet instead. i guess it's still using a centralized exchange but yeah - in yurope they're starting to delist it so it's a good time to learn to use dexes.
>>61495654>You NEED the price to go up if you want the network security to increase because the payout value in XMR will not.Sure, but how ngu happens matters. Fuck taking shortcuts, this is about more than just pumping your heavy bags. I want my parallel economy so I can troll the IRS.
>>61495869>>61495908I’m amazed neither of you detected the sarcasm
>>61495940There's a reason moonfags never tell you to mine>>61495970He who echoes bad ideas while veiling himself behind supposed sarcasm will be made an example of.
>>61495976You’re a faggot
>>61495970I've been interacting with too many zcash shills.>>61495908Monero will not achieve a perfectly circular economy without the price going up because you'll still need the necessary liquidity for a significant portion of real-world value (with or without precise fiat terms) to be tradeable.
Can Monero really flip Chainlink within the next year?
>>61497247>Can Monero really flip {INSERT RANDOM ERC20 RUGPULL HERE} within the next year?Are you retarded?
>>61447644>>61447687someone send me the fucking picture of pepe pissing on the guy as he gets out of his limo and I will ape a weeks wage into this coin
>>61497527>ape
>>61497566jokes on you i already bought because ts the real deal
>>61497522It sure hasnt in the past 10 years
>>61497833To be frank, idk what chainlink is and I couldn't care less. All I did was perform the classic scam test known as googling "is xyz an erc20 token"
>resyncing node that was a few months out of date>gets to about ~1 month behind>starts printing "Host blocked" messages for a couple of dozen IPs>sync completely stalls and just hangs forever nowThe fuck happened? Every few minutes I get a new block detected message, "SYNCHRONIZATION STARTED" to the new height, and absolutely nothing. It's not actually syncing a single block now.Actually not absolutely nothing, it just blocked a couple more IPs.Is the network under attack or is my node fucked somehow? I'd rather not take a week resyncing an entirely new node from scratch, but it's really not clear to me what's happened to mine. Should I try to force reset the blocklist by passing an empty one? I don't have a bitmonero.conf so I'm actually not sure if it's even persisting the blocks across restarts or if it's just fucking stalled.
>>61496424You a golem, that's way worse because even if you have kids they'll be so cucked that your lineage will die with them unless they adopt some poor asian boy they can groom. >>61496547>Monero will not achieve a perfectly circular economy without the price going up because you'll still need the necessary liquidity for a significant portion of real-world value (with or without precise fiat terms) to be tradeable.I believe you're basing it still on valuations found in the fiat markets. This assumes the existing tradfi markets were already perfectly rational but I think we can both disagree with that.
>>61497877nvm figured it out
>>61495933Kraken in the US still has xmr, idk about Canada anymore. Elsewhere it is not listed on the exchange.
Are you retards still yelling over each others about the false dichotomy of store of value and medium of exchange? Monero will always be useful for both secret store of wealth and private medium of exchange. Both sides keep seething. >>61497247It did already a few time so why not?
>>61498253>Are you retards still yelling over each others about the false dichotomy of store of value and medium of exchange?I've tried to explain it to both sides and have come to the conclusion that they don't want to understand; moonfag bad bakecel bad
https://xcancel.com/XMRVoid/status/2000953239873970199
I finally installed an app to check Monero prices. I was tired of checking for dips
>>61499297>I finally installed an appYou are what's wrong with the current state of the tech industry and the world at large.
>>61499445It's literally about convenience. Good luck checking the price everyday
>>61499467>It's literally about convenienceChances are the "app" you installed is literally just a web browser without the address bar. How is this more convenient?
>>61499502>notifications
>>61499564You should look into progressive web apps, they can also do notifications and give the app creator less control over your device
>>61499467>It's literally about convenience.Yes, we've already established you are the problem, no need to drive the point further>Good luck checking the price everydayAre too brain damaged to bookmark https://search.brave.com/search?q=xmr+usd
OP forgot to post the P2pool pasta. shame on them. Also p2pool nano hasn't found a block in NINE FUCKING DAYS. I'm gonna kms not even kidding
>>61499693>braveI wish to take my post back, I'm now siding with app-anon
>>61499693I just keep monero.how in a tab I never close next to the xmr general tab I never close.
>>61499693Idk why brave didn't do it with eur! Literally didn't trigger the instant price answer.
>>61497879While fiat is the most available ruler by which to quantify a value (even if fiat itself loses value) the sentiment works independent of it. Even if you used say, gold as the metric for XMR's value and liquidity, you would still hit the conclusion that you need XMR to be worth more gold, nominally if it is to consume a significant portion of the real-world economy into its circular ecosystem, because that portion of the economy is worth a certain amount of gold and the entire XMR network is not yet.
>>61499791What? Duckduckgo si shit and google is google. Cry all you like, but brave search on firefox is the superior choice.
>>61500144Just use searx.>>61499953I get your point but I think the prices of most goods currently don't reflect their actual value.
>>61500409>searxThanks for telling me about it
to the moon
>>61498895I don't follow shitcoins. What does this mean? XMR is on some kind of ETH dex?
>>61502846decentralized perpetual futures market trading app, it goes across multiple blockchains not just eth
>>61502931So... what's the advantage over haveno?
>>61502948absolutely none if you just want to buythis is for long/shorts betting
>>61502948but historically, monero is the most shorted coin overall. so this could be another attack vector by bad actors.this link shows data from bitfinex futures market>https://datamish.com/xmrusd/360d
Welp. I tried p2pool folks. Unfortunately it's just not for me. It doesn't find a block often enough and the opportunity cost is too high. I'm switching back to Hashvault.
>>61502977Interresting. So we could use shorts as an early warning for an incoming financial attack
>>61502977>historically, monero is the most shorted coin overall.Imagine shorting the only crypto that's actually used.
>>61499753Yeah, sadly p2pool-nano got some bad luck lately. Switched to p2pool-mini and it's pretty gud.
>>61503020Which sidechain are you using? Mini gets a block every 9 hours on average, and it's not too competitive.
it's over
>>61506174>-3%>it's overBullish
>>61500144>>61500409how about 4get
>>61506504The guy who made it completely derailed psg on /g/ to the point that it had to be combined with the cyberpunk general. Also he never could tell me why he hated searx.
>monero jumps up 90909999%>cant buy because turd wold shithole>cant exchange because no one uses it in my shitholeWhy cant i live with atleast normally levels of retarded people? Whyd God have to put me in the most retarded niggertard place? Anyway bros, can you break even with mining? i dont really care about earning a profit, i just wanna contribute.
>>61507368Are you unable to at least buy btc in your location? You can then exchange it with xmr on any of the crypto to crypto exchanges, which are not limited by location
>>61498253I resent the SoViets, they killed bitcoin
>>61498245it's almost as if they want me to use shady unregulated services to buy/sell monero. their loss as i will not stop using it lmao. but yeah if i was a burger i would stock up on xmr through a cex so if i were to sell it i'd have something to show to the taxman.
Wtf is this shitcoin doing?t. maybe a holder maybe not
>>61508396>have something to show to the taxman.Dumb cuck, just say it was a gift/donation. Better yet, spend it without converting to fiat. Buy gold, buy silver, buy a used fucking cumsock, fucking anything is better than paper money at this point
>>61508628cash money isn't going away in our lifetimes. i'm not going to kneecap myself because of my policies.
>>61508963>cash money isn't going away in our lifetimesI didn't say it'd go away, but good luck getting a haircut in three years for less than a quarter of your current monthly salary
My TA says we could reach as high as ~$585 before brutally crashing back down to the $200-300 range.
>>61509734Fuck you not nearly bullish enough
bump
I bought 11.3 moneroids today, wish me luck. I'm feeling vaguely bullish
my dream is to have 20 monero but I'm a third worlder and have only made 0.2 working full time.
>>61511944
>>61512027lol I wish
>>61511944Don't worry, you'll still be able to afford a couple plantations with that sort of money in a couple years
>They're scam pumping zec again to try to draw liquidity away from $500 xmrThey're billionaires, how much could the government even pay them for it to be worth the hassle?
>>61513732Just short them in junction with the 10am dump, then use the profit to buy more xmr, free money, free liquidity extraction
>>61508401Accumulating upwards before mooning
it's over again
>>61513921Wake me up when were under 200
>>61498895https://x.com/PerpetualCow/status/2001718984945602750
>>61514665Introducing HyperWagyu: A Trustless Hyperliquid <> Monero BridgeUser ExperienceYou give us your XMR addressWe give you a Hyperliquid deposit addressYou send fundsYou receive XMRExtremely simple and no risk of getting your funds stolen.Insurance & CommitmentAll transactions are insured for up to $100k, in case of any issues arising from our end.Try It OutHyperWagyu.xyzTrade XMR1/USDC on Hyperliquid
>>61514665why not post the link tot he article? >https://x.com/PerpetualCow/article/2001718984945602750>no github link, just blind trust
>>61514088Checked. Those days are gone
>>61515610>>61514674Pic related Hyperliquid is not open source, but the developer seems like a pretty cool guy
>>61516612>push the whole liquidity issue to a shit coin with no backingatomic swaps soon™wont catch ne buying xmr through these promises>DevSeemsCool.PNGNot gonna cut it here
>>61517537Atomic swaps have been out for months, theres been some person on Retoswap making 250k USD atomic swaps every few days for weeks
>>61517545yes theyve been out. why would i trust some person who made a ui for xmr swaps and not a true trustless atomic swap is what im getting at
>>61514674>All transactions are insured for up to $100k, in case of any issues arising from our end.how are they doing thismonero is decentralized
>>61514674>Trade XMR1/USDC on Hyperliquidthis is fucking amazing
>>61518022Yeah, but how trustless is it?
I think price discovery for XMR will be really interesting. I’m convinced there’s no way to really know where the price will go. Like there’s no reference point at all. It’s the first and only coin that actually fulfills the properties of money. Everything else has either been hijacked and financialized or never had any demand outside market makers in the first place. Like I have no idea how to value a real cryptocurrency it’s the first one
>>61518273>Like I have no idea how to value a real cryptocurrencyThe most realistic metric would be real-world economic activity, namely the demand from actual users rather than profit seekers. Crypto runs on hype and manipulation and when you take those out of the equation, what you have left is what's real.
tx volume hasn't really gone up. Little weird, but perhaps its just a few whales moving in for now. Will be interesting to see if this picks up
Will tptb let xmr go into price discovery without suppression or will they try removing it from the few exchanges it remains on?
>>61516612>developer seems like a pretty cool guy
Youtuber Louis Rossman has started a cell phone company that takes no information to sign up and accepts Monero!!!!>https://www.phreeli.com/>announcement video>https://youtu.be/e8SnNNq6MaI?t=247
>keeps pumping>no legal way to cash it out
>Got blackpilled and sold 90% of my stack 6 months agoI did not believe in this crab coin and still don't
>>61519225you can always buy back in when you want to buy something privately, anon
I know a daily chart means little for price discovery but congrats on this.
wtf happen
why is it 400 somethingwasn't it 200 a month agostop making the coins more expensive, you literally halved my monthly buys
New ATH incoming
Do I need a perfect internet connection to finish daemon synch on the gui wallet? I keep having it reset on me cause of connection issues I assume?
>>61519550check the log to see
>>61519168>cash outKeep buying fartcoin!
Are we going to flip Link's market cap?
>>61519168I think your best bet now are giftcards.
>>61520013No, no, no. It's fapcoin now according to keikaku.
>>61518273>I’m convinced there’s no way to really know where the price will go. Like there’s no reference point at allWell, it's at least 1BTC
been away for a while. is xmr still the only crypto worth holding? why are we pumping so much?
>>61521985> only cryptoyes>pumping ztrash privacy campaign is making monero popular
>>61521985>is xmr still the only crypto worth holding? Yes>why are we pumping so much?Same as it ever was: liquidity from questionable sources.New hyperliquid bridge (experimental, don't actually hold funds here like a retard, pic related)>>61514674>>61514665>>61515610And a new no-kyc cell service>>61519149
>>61522543Saar please tell hello to your CEO. Cow is most holy god
>>61522543allegedly $1.2mill in 24hr volume
I had a vivid dream yesterday night that I solo mined a Monero block. I had booted up xmrig with the official gui wallet on my Windows PC as I sometimes do irl to keep my feet warm from the exhaust coming out of the bottom of my PC which is on the floor. For some reason in the dream, I had booted two instances of xmrig and used Process Explorer to set the CPU affinity so that each process ran using half the available CPUs (no idea why I would want to do that but it was a dream so hey). After looking at the output for a few seconds I suddenly saw the "Accepted" message, I glanced to see if it was in a donation cycle but it wasn't, and I was like wtf? Did I just mine a block? and then I saw my mining wallet balance jump 1.763... something monero. I was so excited I ran into the living room and told my wife. Then I woke up. It felt so real Anons, it felt so real...
>>61524553Don't let your dreams be dreams Anon. I solo mined a monero block the first day I downloaded the client and bought/held an undisclosed amount from then on
>>61524553>my wifethat's how you know it was a dream
Zcash will enter its next cycle of shilling in 2025, right before FCMP++ drops and then, dominate the market cap in privacy coins space.
>>61525050>asked me why I have so much USDC arounddon't answer, because it's none of their business? what a retarded fucking question, it's like asking why do you have so much money in your bank accountwhat are the odds that's a 20 year old brat
>>61525050>Checks ID>See he's supporting chainlink and zcrash over XMR. Makes me think...
>>61525050>privacy is a human right >as long as daddy government tells me it isnice token you have there
the hold is extra comfy this winter season
>>61525050Shit like this is the kiss of death for actual adoption, "compliant privacy" + corporate sponsorship guarantees zero endorsement by reputable Opsec gurus.Its just a question of how long the unfounded hype can be maintained, "wait, nobody actually uses Zcash" is the Emperor Has No Clothes moment.
>>61525975>>61525050>>61525975>Shit like this is the kiss of death for actual adoption, "compliant privacy" + corporate sponsorship guarantees zero endorsement by reputable Opsec gurus.Don't forget deFi and smart contracts and a gorillion txs/sec. All while maintaining top notch privacy.I forget who said it (spirobel?) but this is zcash's real problem: it doesn't know what it wants to be when it grows up. The sniff test says it's smells like a pre-2018 shitcoin
>>61526796It hasn't even started yet.
should I swap $100 of BTC into XMR now or wait until the exchange rate is better? I am going to do it eventually but it seems way too high right now.
>>61527156IMO you have more to lose by waiting than you do to gain. I would make the switch now
>>61526850Go for it. If XMR falls to $250 (the qubic bottom), you'll lose $50 but still have $50 worth of XMR
>>61515610wanted to try thislol wtf?is this the entire US?
last time I was here monero was a $150 stable coin. happy for you guys. and wireyboi >>61451131
>>61528490>monero was a $150 stable coin>A 2.5xCongratulations?
>>61528103yeah hyperliquid says no us users but they literally do not care if you use a vpn
Someone sold the bag
>>61529024
Jeet here! I'm new to crypto and thinking of buying small amount of xmr to experiment. How do I buy monero safely and anonymously in india. Please suggest any non KYC methods that doesn't freeze my bank account. Fellow jeets or anyone know better please help!
>>61529024Good I need it to tap 360 again so I can open another leverage play.
>>61529905how do i acquire a suicide stack of izzat sir
>>61529905>retoswap.com for fiat-xmr, check picrel for current offers by currency>Trocador.app quick easy crypto-xmr swap site that doesnt collect data, refunds available too>kycnot.meif the other 2 options cant help you, maybe something in here can
>>61530702forgot the picrel
>>61530702thanks will check it out.
>>61531149
uhhhh bros? i overheard some finance bros talking about investing in monero on the train today…
>>61533431top signal
>>615299051. Get a hardware wallet. Desi Cypherock X1 is surprisingly good but doesn't support XMR - I bought it before deciding to go XMR. Ledger / Trezor are good for starting out. If you buy Ledger wallets, you get a small amount of starter BTC. 2. Be patient and buy any crypto for cash from a known / recommended 3rd party. I was able to find a seller within a week of starting to look. 3. Set up wallets and experiment with seed phrase safekeeping, protocols, etc and swap the BTC to XMR. optional: download a node on your computer (hope you have an SSD with ~300gb of space if you want a full node). Run p2pool and xmrig so you can get excited about mining small amounts of currency, it's fun.Don't be too scared to swap currency around, the fees are low, I paid something like ₹5
>>61533431impossible, everybody knows that monero is a pedo coin that will go absolutely nowhere
>>61535260but pedos run the country and are all billionaires?
>>61535268
What is the current state of buying xmr in EU legally.Cash-XMR?Crypto-XMR?if less than 1000€ is non kyc ?Is cake wallet swap ok in EU?
That fireice faggot is hitting desperation levels that shouldn't even be possible.https://www.reddit.com/r/monerouncensored/
>>61535297See>>61530702
it's fucking over merry christmas
Is there a way to earn XMR without mining? Like a job board or something?I'm tired of swapping.
>>61536770Xmrbazaar
>>61536770malware campaign targeting xmr users
>>61536770Selling goods and services for XMR is the most based mode of acquisition.
>>61536864This. A couple of weeks ago I sold several 1oz gold coins in person for XMR
>longed the xmr top to support FREEDOM and you baggies dumped on me
>>61537116i shorted on hyperliquidez
>>61536864>Selling goods and services for XMR is the most based mode of acquisition.I respect that opinion, however, I feel mining is more based because you're basically supporting all of the transactions of the coin. Honestly, we both know it needs both actual trades for non-crypto offerings and miners.
>>61536770There's a new job board yeah. Revuo mentioned it. monero.jobs
>>61447644This is totally excessive. Go here:>>61537539>>61537539>>61537539
We are merging all crypto generalsYou guys understand>>61537539
>>61537624>>61537627Fuck offMonero is unique. Don't confuse it for all the crypto shit bandwagon.
>>61535234Ledger is closed source and complete dogshit. Buy Trezor instead if you need a hardware wallet.
>>61537945Please sage next time anonGoes in the option field, all lower caps.Makes it so the thread doesn’t bump.
>>61537627No, we are not
>>61537957It’s time man, don’t make it harder than it has to be. Crypto is dead.
>>61537967>>61537967>Crypto is dead.>What are the bitcoin-obituaries
>>61538070You forgot to sage
>>61538083I didn't forget
>>61537524This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
Attempting to bake new bread
>>61538235New bread >>61538235New bread >>61538235New bread
Guys my based mom got me th Monero t-shirt
Monerochan Christmas edition pls :(
