Welcome to /XMR/ Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's most widely adopted privacy coin.XMR payments are anonymous, low-fee, and fully fungible. Users can send and receive XMR globally without having to worry about tainted coins. Battle-tested privacy tech (Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses and RingCT) ensures that critical TX data cannot be gleaned from the Monero blockchain; the TX history of all XMR users is kept hidden, with TXs being optionally transparent via the aid of a view key.XMR ensures low TX fees by employing a dynamic block size that can "stretch" to easily accommodate sudden TX spikes.XMR's mining algorithm, RandomX, is optimized for devices using general-purpose CPUs e.g. desktops, laptops, smartphones, tablets, keeping the barrier to entry low and ASICs out of the equation.XMR's tail emission - 0.6 XMR per block forever - incentivizes for-profit miners to keep mining, helping boost long-term network security. This constant linear inflation trends to zero and is offset by coin loss.XMR has proven to be the only altcoin capable of overcoming BTC's network effect by driving it out of the darknet economy BTC dominated for over 10 years. XMR is also starting to overtake BTC in clearnet commerce as well.If you still have questions, feel free to ask. A MoneroChad will be with you shortly.XMR Redpill: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4BUY XMR: https://monero.eco/exchanges/Crypto ATMs: https://coinatmradar.com/XMR Resources: https://monero.observer/resources/XMR Stats: https://moneroj.netUSE XMR: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://getmonero.orgMINING: https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/WALLETS:>DesktopOfficial GUI/CLI walletFeatherwalletStack Wallet>MobileCake WalletMonero.comStack WalletUnstoppable Monerujo (Android)Monfluo (Android)>Infodumpshttps://rentry.org/monero-explainedhttps://moneroinfodump.neocities.org Previous: >>61447644
>Is mining profitable?>Why should I mine?See: https://moneroj.net/hashvsprice/This chart shows that mining makes XMR more valuable by making the network more secure and more expensive to attack. If you have an interest in increasing the value of XMR, consider mining.>Poolshttps://miningpoolstats.stream/moneroNote: qubic.org is a malicious pool that does NOT payout in XMR.>Reddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining>CPU benchmarkshttps://xmrig.com/benchmark>Profit calculatorshttps://iwillsolo.com/monero/https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/monero/calculatorNote: the hash rates on xmrig.com are more accurate>I'm rich and want a dedicated mining device Antminer X5Hashrate: 212000 H/sPower draw: 1350 WCost: ~$2800, Doesn't include shipping costsHashes per $: ~70By far the most powerful miner on the market. There's no official bitmain support for this device; you're on your own for updates/repairs>I'm poor and want a dedicated mining deviceMINISFORUM 795S7Hashrate: 19250 H/sPower draw: 142 WCost: $607 shipped Hashes per $: 32As of 2025 it's the best bang for your buck. No room for upgrades, though.>On P2PoolMining in P2Pool is easier than ever with Gupax:1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)3. Launch Gupax4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, or your own node6. Start P2Pool7. Start XMRigVIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/>DUE TO BOTNETS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!>Can I use my GPU too?Yes. MoneroOcean mines GPU-shitcoins, sells them, and pays you out in XMR. To get started, visit the help page on:https://moneroocean.stream/>IF MINING ON MONEROOCEAN MAKE SURE YOU'RE USING MO-XMRig TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS
Remember, the value of any currency is in it's acceptance.>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!https://monerica.com/https://xmrbazaar.com/https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on>Shop on Amazon with XMR! https://monezon.comhttps://peershop.app>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)https://cakepay.com/>or with CoinCardshttps://coincards.com/>Monero stickers for guerilla marketinghttp://monerosupplies.com/>Anonymous burner phone numbershttps://silent.link/>Monero-only VPS hostinghttps://kyun.host/>Win XMR!https://monero.vegas/>Darknet vendors for more exotic goods and services # = recently launched, exercise caution>Alias Market #>Asur Market>Babylon #>Calypso #>Candy Haven #>Chimera Market >Cloud Market >Cypher Market>Dark Matter>DrugHub # >DrugTown #>Drugula #>FilthyFellas>Gofish Market #>Gramazon #>Hectate Market #>Mercury Market #>Pygmalion's Refuge >Retro Market >Smackers>Sonanza Market #>Squid Market>SuperMarket #>Tribe Seuss>Whales Market #>Wizard's Palace #>World Trade Center #Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fF95wTNiAnonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service>Infinity Projecthttps://pastebin.com/raw/pbCycXsCor a reputable clearnet servicehttps://trocador.apphttps://orangefren.comhttps://eigenwallet.orghttps://basicswapdex.comOr retoswap, an XMR-centric fork of Bisqhttps://retoswap.com/>Want to support further development? https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/https://monerofund.org/>Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/https://monero.jobs/>Want more organic Monero-chan? https://www.monerochan.art/
>>61538241>Get this shit off my board Impersonating Hiro is a bannable offense >and go to the crypto general
>>61538316And these threads aren't?>>61537712>>61507743>>61536305>>61537791>>61537744>>61522782Why aren't you trying to clean up these threads?
>>61538254Any cool stuff you have bought with it?
>>61538239I have an old RPI 3 model b laying around. can i use it as miner? i wont be able to earn enough obviously, but sounds like a fun project.
Isn't it dumb to buy now? The value is close to the ATH.
>>61538425I pay for my addy.io subscription with XMR>>61538435>have an old RPI 3 model b laying around. can i use it as miner? i wont be able to earn enough obviously, but sounds like a fun project.Yeshttps://pi-apps.io/install-app/install-xmrig-on-raspberry-pi/
>>61538466you mean -20% ath?
>>61538494Yes, 20% is close. If it dumps back to 200-300 then buying now would not be a good idea.
Minero is the greatest psyop ever devised by our glow jew niggers. Anonimity? Lol you're going to a special list ready for your criptoes to get seized at any moment
Guys we are suppose to be in the containment thread
reminder to mine on p2pool and not supportxmr for decentralization.
>>61538316Haven't been here for over a year, but a crypto general is the dumbest thing imaginable.Why should real Monero-Bros fall for this?
Monerry Christmas!
>>61539749It's literally just one retard, ignore him./biz/ was literally made to be the crypto containment board so BTC wasn't discussed on /g/ but he's too much of a newfag to know that.
>>61539616Based mom
>>61538389Good point, we'll have to work harder to inform everyone. Thanks for compiling all the spam threads.
Holy based>Boston, Massachusetts, USA (Wednesday, December 24, 2025) -- The Free Software Foundation (FSF) today announced it received two major contributions totaling around $900,000 USD.>These extraordinary donations, both made to the FSF in the cryptocurrency Monero, are among some of the largest private gifts ever made to the organization. The donors wish to remain anonymous.https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-receives-historic-private-donationshttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46382134
>>61539825>>61539845>>61539810lmao
>let's spin the idea that the precious metals chads want the death of /XMR/ general Who's dumb idea was this?
>>61539771I see, maybe the same tard that wanted to push Z-Trash into oblivion here. lolFeds never stop trying until dying.
>>61539898We do. At the end of day it is fiat with extra steps.
>>61539898I have a lot of precious metals as well as XMR and BTC.Don't see a reason why one should fight the other.To diversify is always a good idea.XMR is used by me to buy and sell stuff and servicesPrecious metals are used to store value long termBTC is used for speculation so i can exchange the earnings to either precious metals or XMR.For me these all are a complimentation to each other.
>>61539934I see my fellow white man. Thank for this insight. What would be fastest way to sell all of my xmr for bitconnect
>>61539974If you want, i ran reopen an entirely new shitcoin like Bitconnect was and set a value for it myself and make you an offer for your XMR's.Another option would be for you to stop trolling.
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Literally the best case scenario for precious metals is a 10x from here, something that won’t be achieved for many years and still wouldn’t even constitute a make it trade for most people.There is no hidden alpha in metals. Maybe silver has some relatively unknown industrial use case, great. Everyone knows about them and there is only marginal gains to be made at best.All metals are is a hedge against inflation. Your “investment” “going up” just means the money supply grew and you didn’t get inflated away. When I think of a metals investor I see a 95 IQ guy rubbing his few brain cells together to find an opportunity. No ingenuity, no vision, just a safe well known trade with minimal upside and very little risk.When I think of a Monero investor it is a 130 IQ schizo who understands that privacy, especially in finance, is about to be a luxurious commodity and that XMR is literally the only coin offering it. The tokenomics and mining of the coin ensure that it will be extremely low supply and highly valuable as virtually the only way to hide wealth in a totalitarian surveillance system. Virtually nobody (normies included) knows about Monero and definitely doesn’t know how to acquire it. The combination of massive commodity value and obscurity makes Monero highly attractive as an investment despite its high risk. The investment requires vision, discrimination, and risk tolerance. A 150x is possible over the horizon.We are not the same.
>>61539934BTC is* used to store value long term
>>61540014I'm invested in BTC since late 2008, when i started mining and also bought coins for literal pennies.Most of it, i have still in my wallets. So in this regard, you're right. The problem is just as soon as one can connect your wallet/s to your ID (pretty easily done) you are in their focus.That's the main reason i went over to XMR to store my assetts there.I'd never pay for stuff with BTC, not even via Lightning. I pretty much only speculate and store with BTC. It's a pump and dump game you follow.Precious metals i began stockpiling already in the late eighties and never sold some of it.But it's easily 10 years ago i bought my last ounces.
Monero uses Pedo Commitments which are bad for your privacy https://techleaks24.substack.com/p/why-pedersen-commitments-are-obsolete
You guys are listening to the anti-moonboy podcast right? Hosted by one of us?
>>61540014>BTC is* used to store value long termkek BTC is too useless to retain value without an army of baggies promising le generational wealth to anybody still willing to listen. Monero has value, whatever that amount is, because it is genuinely useful even for those with no interest in investing/speculating in it. BTC is all hype and no substance.
>>61540345Monero utility>transactional privacy for goods and services >privacy in storage of wealth away from surveillance, taxation or other deductions/impositions on assetsBitcoin utility>the original 21M capped NFT.>because it is ASIC there is a Potemkin village industry for mining it that scales with the difficulty level so long as the Ponzi continues.
>>61539749it's an unc having a gloat cause they had a YTD higher than SPX he's literally euphoric, almost having a stroke from excitement cause he never saw a double digit YTD before
>>61538235ok but if you wanna sell for fiat you still have to go to an exchange and do a kyclmao
>>61539813membering when someone did this with btc and it lost most of it's value before they could cash outkek
>>61540413>0.8tps vs>7tps
>>61540539Not sure you read through >>61538254 , but you really should.
I think privacy is a date antisocial concept. Zoomers and the elite aren't into privacy.
>>61540694>eliteThis class of people are so private you literally cannot comprehend the mechanisms they have used to achieve privacy. Endless mazes of legal entities with registered “founders” that are themselves legal entities that own trusts in other names with PMB registered addresses. Bank accounts in foreign jurisdictions selected for the secrecy they allow for their clients, tax havens to pay as little as possible. Physical security to maintain their distance from the common people and the only way their private jets are allowed to be tracked is because of mandatory federal aviation laws.If you picked just one elite person at random and tried to research 100% of their assets with proof you probably would fail to find even 1% of what they own.Also zoomers love Monero.
>>61540694>is a dateretard esl
>>61538491>addy.iothat's pretty cool, anons should suggest stuff like this more often in the general
>>61540735Exactly. Tax havens, trusts, foundations and companies driven by strawmen and stuff are used by those who have the money to build up such infra structures.All the international agreements that are about providing financial informations about customers and bank account holders from a variety of countries is just made to prevent the avera wagecuck being able to hide and protect his FIAT-Money.Pic related: Countries that are not part of the OECD CRS treaty. So they won't give out infos about you and your bank accounts if you have one in their country.
>>61540615>bro just pay off your mortgage and insurances in xmr
>>61538913they cant seized from me if i send them immediately to someone else. >>61539813wonder if this was that big sell off the other day, dont crypto donations needs to be swapped to fiat for legality?>>61540539you guys really come in here to shit talk and dont know a damn thing>>61540910how did it go from "cashing out" to paying off "mortgage and insurances"? pick a goalpost. You can easily cash out large amounts non kyc and inform the government on your tax forms if you want.
>>61540910Are you just trolling?Changing the subject of your question/requirement does not make a good conversation easy.If you so will, you can cash out xmr via coincards by buying prepaid debit cards with it and pay your rent or mortgage or insurance with it.Or you cash out via haveno and get the money directly on your bank account / PayPal to pay off said things.The thing is, you can either buy goods and services with XMR directly or you cash out via different methods and pay shops or other stuff that don't provide you with crypto payments. You can even go on a shopping tour on Amazon via monezon or peershop or you buy redeem cards via coincards.There are a ton of options available for all kinds of usecases.
>>61540610Current transactions per second has nothing to do with block size limits, idiot
>>61538235Why’s the differences between XMR, railgun and tornado?Why would XMR be superior?
>>61539766A very Monerry Christmas indeed!
>>61541668Nobody uses railgun so there's no documentation on attack vectors or opsec. Maybe it works as well as XMR? Who knows.Tornado has the musical chair problem: your funds can be locked in the contract if there's not enough liquidity. It also has the zcash problem: people can tell if you used tornado even if they can't tell where your funds pre-tornado came from XMR has neither of these issues
>>61542011nice vid but the audio is loud af, blasted my ears
Threads that encourage the death of crypto deserve their own thread, all other discussion belong in the containment general.>>61537539
>>61539898Recently I saw some pmg residents on this board complain about crypto. I think this is just some meme war they'll quickly lose. >>61540325We shouldn't give them any more attention. The false dichotomy between bakecels and moonfags is just another psyop just like the dysfunctional and immediately dismantled chainanalysis fud from the last general. >>61540345BTC has some historic value. It's a cool collector's piece and is currently used as a stand-in for all crypto but there's no inherent value anymore. >>61540694Considering zoomers are the ones returning to piracy they necessarily are interested in both privacy and anonymity. Acceptable bait though.
which one of those retards put a cypto miner on my server on christmas 2 weeks agop.s. you're french or stupid or both (both)
>>61543006it's not a very impressive introduction to be clear
>>61543048Monero?
>>61543017Are you running a Windows XP server? You generally need to do something pretty stupid to have a botnet installed on a modern server.
>>61542234Great answer. Thank you anon.>>61539898Don’t feed the tourists.
Monero will forever be based and blessed.
Threads encouraging the death of crypto deserve their own thread.I know there is a lot of resistance to this new change.Just the state of the world. PMs won.Can’t wait for the containment general to mandatory and all cryptofags forced to stay there.Need jeets to be contained, as this is precious metals board.Bitcoin is dead anon your 1 and 0 psyop fake internet monopoly money is not going anywhere Get over it. Future is bright anon, can't wait for cryptofags scammer bags go to zero and all pro/neutral crypto discussion contained away from precious metals board mandatory permanently.Tldr move crapto discussion to the containment general>>61537539
>>61541148Why would you suggest haveno to bank or paypal as a genuine option unless someone is ok with receiving stolen funds and getting accounts locked off with no recourseCash by mail is the only reasonable option but please convince me otherwise
>>61545333XMR to Paypal was never a problem for me to ramp out or in with.Although i prefer buying prepaid debit cards or Amazon Redeem gift cards.
>>61541632it has to do with verification times that both chains havethey maintain a cap on how much goes into a block because all participants must validate new blocks and also be able to sync from genesisnever fucking reply to me again
>>61542234>people can tell if you used tornado even if they can't tell where your funds pre-tornado came fromthis is the case for every fucking KYC accountxmr or notyes, if your XMR is kyc'ed, it doesn't matter that they can't trace itthe only thing needed is the initial amount
>>61539898it's a couple of shitposters
>>61543006>there's no inherent value anymorethe idiots who say shit like this have absolutely no technical knowledge of what's going on it's specially grim seeing this type of nigger opinion on a general about one of the best crypto projects that exist
>>61546735I was talking about BTC. The existence of XMR made it useless.
>>61539766this is great
You can't make this shit up.>Zcash also accepts community proposals through Zcash Improvement Proposals (ZIPs), but the network follows a coordinated model led by the Electric Coin Company (ECC) and the Zcash Foundation (ZF). >The ZIP Editor board is not democratically elected by the public or coin-holders. Instead, it operates as a self-selecting body. New editors are appointed by consensus among the current editors, provided the candidate consents to the role. To ensure a balance of power, ZIP 0 mandates that the board must always include at least one representative from the Electric Coin Company and one from the Zcash Foundation.>The Zcash Foundation, a separate nonprofit created in 2017 by ECC and governed by its own independent board of directors, supports public goods, core infrastructure, and community governance. The Foundation is currently led by Alex Bornstein, who serves as Executive Director. Notable investors in the ECC include Pantera Capital, Winklevoss Capital, and Digital Currency Group. https://messari.io/report/understanding-zcash-a-comprehensive-overview
>>61548261>self-selecting body.>must always include at least one representative from the Electric Coin Company and one from the Zcash Foundation.What a find. I'd bet all my ZEC (0) that the ECC and ZF reps got full voting and talking rights. Fuck it, give them a veto at this point. If they were any bolder they would've made the amount of ECC and ZF reps relative to the size of the board and demand they are present for all votes.
>>61548261They're basically telling us they made Z-Trash even more shitty than it already was....berg, ...witz, ...stein every single fucking time.What's Z-trashs acronym on the exchanges? ADL or AIPAC?
Crypto is a post industrial scam and money should be used to develop technologies of real value like semiconductors, batteries or materials.
>>61548550>>61548261fucking lol. This reminds me of when I tried to learn about zcash's tech, so I tried to find some sort of public dev IRC do discuss, but there literally is none. I even tracked down devs' emails from their github/pgp, no response.Their website direct you to a zcash shill discord full of literal retarded 3rd worlders and indians who would just post "gm/gn" and "when moon" and emojis 24/7 (you guys were literally right about them).Same with firo, except with firo there is at least a minority on the forum that discusses tokenomics and such.
Where the fuck do i get Monero? Im a eurofag and Kraken and Coinmotion just say get fucked
>>61549171I found rocketx to be pretty painless and the premium was bearable, like 0.3% or so. It sends your deposit to a cex account which transacts on your behalf, then withdraws to your xmr address. It takes several minutes and can be a little scary while you wait but I've never personally had an issue with it. I'd say transact in small quantities just to be safe.
>>61548261This needs more visibility Literally everyone in crypto should know this
We need every single retard in crypto who's in it for the bag to get the fuck out before we can go anywhere
>>61549205>I'm totally one of the good guys because I hate zec>But I also try to bait you into supporting the false moonfag-bakecel-dichotomy
>>61549192Link? Google shows three separate pages; .exchange, .io and .group
>>61542234people can also tell if you used XMR if you insist on using it to pay for stuff.>>61549084sounds like you are only now starting to research zcash (you could try harder btw) and panicking. The point is frankly that the average "investor" or "community" has no clue and is not qualified to make judgement calls on crypto research. Why should there be discussion forums?Even BTC was basically developed by a bunch of guys around satosh, the rest of the 'discussion' was just pointless tourists trying to grasp what was going on. research and development has nothing to do with community, it's just investors stroking their ego
>>61549218Why are you here?
>>61539898
>>61549622Don't forget about Wownero. Grab 10k of it and let it sit. We are going to prove to the banker jews that you can't delist us to death. We only grow stronger.
>>61546667Why the fuck would you use Monero on a kyc account? If people only want exposure to price action and don’t care about tax okay. But if you want privacy you shouldn’t use Kraken or any other kyc cex.>>61546735>if the Potemkin village ASIC mining industry of bitcoin is using a lot of power and if Saylor is creating 50,000 legal entities to confuse people about the value of his bitcoin then that means there’s inherent value.
>>61549204>>61548261none of this matters. I say give them the rights, they're doing a good job. If they try to pass something weird/dumb, miners can just fork them out and start their own. The beauty of blockchain, if anyone tries to start a FED equivalent, fork 'em out.But thinking research and proposals need to be inclusive of every average Joe is just so dumb.
I've seen a lot of coomers crying about the card companies ruining their fav porn creators, why dont they use XMR instead if that's the case? is it really that difficult to use it for them? I hoped they were more tech literate enough to make a digital XMR content store or Patreon lookalike
Looks like the Zookster has officially sold out.
>>61549610To support the best currency we have
Monero is my largest financial asset.
>>61550125>I hoped they were more tech literate enough to make a digital XMR content store or Patreon lookalikeWorking on it.
>>61551408big if true. Good luck m8
>>61550630ZKP's are the way forward for onchain finance. Ring Sigs aren't gonna be anything besides a footnote in history. I'm almost sorry for you guys but you're a bunch of assholes so get fucked.
best youtube video for an xmr noob?can i go link to xmr then bitcoin?
>>61551856FCMP++ is a type of zero knowledge proof, my jeet friend apologize on the thread or your mother dies in her sleep tonight
>>61549994>Why the fuck would you use Monero on a kyc account?why the fuck would you use ANYTHING on a kyc account?I'm saying that using anything KYC is the catch all, monero or not>inherent valuethis is an OXYMORON because value cannot be independent from external factorsvalue is always dynamic, any other classification of value is pure kaynesian dogmatic faggorty made by demagogues and jews the moment someone utters the phrase "inherent value", that person just ousted himself as a total drooling monkey nigger
>>615519952 more weeks for the community to roll out the upgrade!
>>61546795>The existence of XMR made it useless.it did notthat's bagholder talk by CEXbros and speculative niggersif a "bitcoiner" can't see the value of XMR, they're an idiotif a "moneroer" can't see the value of BTC, they're also an idiotplain and fucking simple
>>61548261this does not invalidate halo2 but it does invalidate zcash as a currency altogether
>>61552011LMK when Zcash isn't under a 51% control and I'll get some.So far that's been never but maybe one day soon.
>>615520232 more weeks!
>>61552044I guess my first transaction, on the web chart in the op, is there one that is the easiest to use?Also can I send link to the monero wallet app, and then use that link to buy monero?
>>61552044checked, looks like I want to use bisq to do this
>>61552783trocador looks good thanks
broo today i saw that you can't buy xmr on binance or on another exchange that I use. fuuuk
>>61553117fuck binance, you probs would have been able to withdraw anyway if you did buy theresee >>61552783
>>61553127wouldn't have*
>>61553117Here's your privacy, bro
Reminder for EU bros: you have 3 days to buy crypto on CEX until it's over
>>61552783>OpenMonero.comI've never used it, but a quick search through twigger shows 2 red flags>Openmonero has been hacked before, though they paid every one back>Openmonero is largely behind the retoswap fud (a malicious arbitrator can rug pull the whole order book. This only applies to retoswap and not other similar p2p platforms like bisq or hodlhodl with multisig escrow because....well it just doesn't ok?)Use with caution
Looking at getting the Minisforum 795S7 recommended by OP to start mining. Unfortunately its out of stock most places and ram is fucked. I found that my local microcenter actually has both the ramless barebones version for 530 bucks and also one with a 4060, 1tb ssd and 32gb of ram for $1080. Doesnt tell me timings or speed but I'm sure they're probably on the worse end. Does the put together one sound like a decent enough deal?
>>61553757Not really. The cheapest route now might be to buy the ram and ssd separately. The 4060 isn't worth it since gpu mining is dead anyways
>>61552014>Singular they>>61553641How is that related to XMR? Aren't we off all CEXes by now anyway?
>>61549918Wtf happened to wownero? Looks like it was nuked off all crypto websites.
>>61554217Fug. Ram gets it up to like $700. Electricity is fucked here anyway so I guess I might as well just start averaging in with each paycheck instead. It would probably take like 3 years to break even.
>>61549554niceu
Lets say I have some money on an exchange that explicityly doesn't support XMR for "political reasons". I can buy BTC and some other shitcoins though. I've got an offline wallet for Monero on tails. Is there somewhere I can buy XMR with BTC without going through another KYC exchange?
>>61554930>Is there somewhere I can buy XMR with BTC without going through another KYC exchange?https://trocador.app/en/
how to buy 4chan pass with XMR? I want to get banned from /vip/ for posting ponies
>>61556614Sell it for a coin they do accept
>>61558341there's also some coinbase bullshit I don't really want to figure out myselfiirc someone made a XMR-centric guide for dummies that was posted in /xmr/ a couple of times
>>61556614Use trocador, make the swap in payment mode
>https://github.com/btcpay-monero/btcpayserver-monero-pluginHas anyone tried this?
>>61554506>How is that related to XMR? Aren't we off all CEXes by now anyway?CEX is the only way to convert fiat to crypto without meeting in shady places like a criminal, sending cash in an envelope (LMAO) or doing a bank transfer to an individual (immediately marked for investigation)
>>61559719I think it's terrible we live in times where private transfers are deemed shady or suspicious.For me, this is rather an argument pro Monero than against it.And the fact that they make it as hard as possible for people to get Monero, should send warning signs to all self thinking people.
>>61559719>No argument against cash-by-mail >Thinking bank transfers are inherently suspicious
>>61538235Is it legal to buy monero for cash/crypto over trocador/cakepay in the EU? Goy answers only.Also for non goys, now that canada ragebanned tradeogre. What is the play in this domain.
>>61552014>if a "moneroer" can't see the value of BTC, they're also an idiotI would really like you to articulate the value of Bitcoin to a moneroer.Also>moneroer What should be the demonym for the people of Monero?
>>61561618Use retoswap>>61561665>demonymMoneroChad
Reminder that you're all virgins playing with 1s and 0s while adults made it from PM
>>61562042Monerochads are not your enemies PM-broSee >>61549622
>>61541148Monezon.com doesn't appear to exist
>>61561665>I would really like you to articulate the value of Bitcoin to a moneroer.It was the first ever cryptocurrency. Which obviously makes it worth $1 million per coin.
Is it true you need to run your own node to transact privately?
>>61563001Yes. If connections to a node are logged, a transaction could be traced.
>>61562141Then use coincards and buy Amazon Redeeem and pay with Monero.
>>61562101what's "PM". genuinely asking>>61552014>if a "bitcoiner" can't see the value of XMR, they're an idiot>if a "moneroer" can't see the value of BTC, they're also an idiotboth are worth at least as much as the electricity that was used to create them. monero is usable as currency. other than speculation, why should anyone use bitcoin?
>>61562007Is retoswap legal to use in the EU (goy answer only. Also is it legal sell samll ammounts on things like craigslist (I assume that boat sailed a long time ago).
>>61554713>>61553757>>61554217You will never break even. Please find something better to pad this gay general with than larping about mining.>>61553641What's this about?
>>61554660Once TO went down it had to switch to new exchanges which do not have enough volume for coingecko or coin market cap to watch. But it's not dead by far and still moving.
>>61564120>Please find something better to pad this gay general with than larping about mining.If you don't then fhe the bleeding heart altruists will come out of the woodwoork and larp about mining anyway.
>>61563832I think it's legal. But I haven't bothered to check the legal code of each country for you. I boughteded substantial amounts over the holidays via Revolut and so far no one has busted down my door yet. Even if they do, I have my seedphrase memorized, so they won't be able to do anything about it other than gargle on my nuts.I think if you SELL large amounts very quickly, if you put the money in a KYC-ed account like the bank or Revolut, they might come after you with some questions of where the money came from.If you want to buy some to escape the fake and gay fiat system, just buy and don't be a pussy. If it's for your crippling pathetic drag addiction, then yes it's highly illegal, better go to rehab. Also why would you try to sell on craigslist you retard, you can sell small amounts on retoswap instead. On craigslist most normies won't know what you're selling, and you risk getting scammed or getting your account banned.
>>61565363>I have my seedphrase memorizedAnon admitted, publicly, using his own IP
>>61565386I am sure you will track me down to torture me and get a couple thousand eurobucks. retard
>>61565404I shouldn't be part of your threat model but if you're concerned about legal issues LE should be.
>>61565446What legal issues could there be for using my already-taxed savings to buy some internet coin? If I wanted to, I should be able to take the money out of the bank and set it on fire instead. Monero is not illegal in the EU. It's only been delisted in CEXs because they can't track it down for tax purposes.
>>61565458>What legal issues could there be for using my already-taxed savings to buy some internet coin?Well I hoped you'd know considering you thought about it. However, in many countries there'll be a second tax on your gains after you cash out.
>>61565472>cash outEveryone is thinking about how they are going to sell their crypto for fiat money to make a profit, not about actually using it as a currency. I didn't buy thinking about "cashing out", but about having access to an alternate form of currency that is not under the control of the antichrist (central banking). This is the reason why crypto is failing; because it is used as a speculation asset, not as an actual currency.Yes I know that there is a second tax. If I ever decide to "cash out", I'll just pay the tax like a good goy, or move to Cambodia.
>>61565488I agree with your opinions regarding XMR and using it as a currency. I see no reason to argue.
>>61564120>What's this about?DAC8
can we just get rich already?
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>>61565488It will never happen at any significant scale and you know it. No ((government)) would ever allow it.
>>61568286not to you though they allow it to settle payments between themselves
>>61568286It makes sense since the objective of cryptocurrency is to make the centralised bureaucratic apparatus obsolete.
>>61568459there'd have been more to what could be done with them before those outcomes would have become problems
