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Hello fellow chads
ALL TIME FUCKING HIGH
why doesn't it stop
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Feels good
Can someone please guide me to the easiest way to slurp some monero non KYC? I’m assuming I shouldn’t use the Bitcoin on my trezor from Coinbase? Unless I just say I lost some? Do I do the Amazon gift card method? Thanks anons I been meaning to slurp a few
>>61621162Easiest way is buy ltc/bch (cheap tx fee) and swap on dex like trocador.
So... how high are we going?
>>61621200So I can just use my previous bitcoin bought through goybase that’s been on my trezor for a year and send it to a cycler or whatever? Say I just “lost it”? Or could just say I realized a loss or gain on a lot and I convert that portion to monero?
>>61621256Around $2000. It'll fall back but in the interim you'll get a big announcement of it being listed, a little bit of a bump but once it's listed capital will pour in and then you've got an easy 10x in a year.
Presumably this has something to do with Zcash nosediving and people betting on Monero instead
>>61621266Extremely unlikely.
>>61621266>listedCope
>>61621261You could send it to a new address not tied to the trezor, as a "gift"From that address you could swap to xmr on trocador/retoswap/ect
>>61621363What about the gift card method people speak of? I Jsut want the simplest way it doesn’t necessarily have to be the Bitcoin I already own from KYC CEX
>>61621371Or what if I just fucking bought it on kraken and sent it to something to disconnect me from the purchase then from there send to monero wallet? Or just fucking say “ I lost it bro”
>>61621013I'm Canadian and I'm no longer allowed to buy Monero.This means that Monero is the real bitcoin.Monero is the real cryptocurrency.Fuck the gay ass violent piece of shit government.This is the currency they are really afraid of because it will set you free.Monero will set you free from the violent and abusive pieces of shit violent thieves in the government.Monero will set you free.You can trade with whoever you want and the government will have no idea about it.The government doesn't know how much you have.The disgusting goblins of the government can fuck off and die.Buy Monero.
My prediction is we hit $585-590 then dump like crazy next time BTC takes a shit.
>>61621380you can trade a prepaid card for xmr on p2p swaps(retoswap, hodlhodl)>bought it on kraken and sent it to somethingcould just send it to your own wallet and say you bought something on xmrbazaar with it. if thats the case. Selling immediately for the the same price you paid doesnt trigger a tax situationAssuming youre going to "use those coins" as soon as you bought them
>>61621287Yeah that's what they said about Bitcoin reaching $5
I took a nap and woke up to $545 XMR and $378 ZEC, and also we passed link idiots on in market cap. WTF happened?>>61621422Yeah I am hoping this is the case
>>61621266>Around $2000.moonfags sure say the darndest things. Why not $10.000 while we're at it? Hell, why not $100k? $600 - $700 is more likely and then it'll crash back down, there simply isn't enough sustained organic demand for a higher price. Yet. But long term and assuming a growing economy drawing in and locking up more and more XMR for circulation, it'll appreciate nicely.
reminder that monero at around $500 is a top signal.
anti-moonboy monerobros, our love of privacy has been rewarded with an increase in USD value that doesn't affect our use of monero (besides making everything cheaper)
>>61621642why?Even if you think future prices can be predicted from past prices, historically every monero top has set a new price floor.>>61621718I think we have seen a change of heart on this board after the hashrate crisis. After the last attack by cubic we all realized that an increase in moonfagging could result in an increase in price, and thus an increase in honest miner revenue.
>>61621642Monero always pumps right before a bull run. Then crashes when everything else pumps.
>>61621731>increase in moonfagging could result in an increase in priceThis is unsustainable. You can only spam "10k soon!" on social media so many times before a critical mass of onlookers realize you're trying to bamboozle them for exit liquidity. Not to mention all that volatility is bad for business.
>>61621162>I’m assuming I shouldn’t use the Bitcoin on my trezor from Coinbase? Unless I just say I lost some?If you never reported your bitcoins to the taxman then I wouldn't worry about it. If you're still worried about it use lightning to swap on robosats or trocador (make sure you select a swap provider that accepts BTC-LN) as lightning is cheaper with better privacy
All time high and nobody is freaking out.
>>61621642Counterpoint: Third time's the charm. See you at 850 before we return to a 500 floor.
Haveno price doesn't jive with coingecko.
>>61621917B-B-BUT, IT WAS BITCOIN'S TURN
>>61621784you might be right about this
>>61622075chance for arbitrage?
Will we hear news about some major ransomware attack or bitcoin theft soon?
We are going to see $600 before we barely got to know $500.
WHERE THE FUCK DO I BUY THIS FROM IN EUROPE???
>>61622448buy bitcoin then use crypto exchanger like changeNOW
>>61622448Why tf would you buy NOW?!
>>61622465Because its going to $1400.
>>61622458Why not Trocador?
>>61622448in case of emergency, buy future contract
>>61622485I need more before that happens, i hope it drops back down cause i want more. Like the demon jew that i am.
$500 Monero is now worth more than $250 bitcoin when it was $250. Let that sink in.
>>61621572My theory is that Monero has finally been accepted globally as "not going away" by leaders. It's the best currency to use to get around USD based sanctions, it's lightweight blah blah blah. I think big actors around the world are getting in while they can. Funny enough North Korea will be one of the biggest holders out there unless the USA mega dumped in..I mean there is already whole cities using Monero as currency because their national currency sucks so fucking much.Generally it's happening everywhere. Citizens are trying to flee inflation any way they can. Don't forget about Wownero btw. It's about 1.8m marketcap and is essentially a different version of Monero. There's a maddening amount of profit to be made once it takes off. I can easily see a 1 billion dollar marketcap for it in the future. They actually release updates BEFORE monero does lol.
>>61622586>I think big actors around the world are getting in while they can.Not saying you're wrong, but can this be looked up somewhere? Some exchange trade stats or so? No matter if DEX or CEX.Normally the inflow of huge amounts of capital would be measurable. Since the curve is relatively steep, there must be something.
Monero's market cap has pulled ahead of Link.
Oh... so NOW you're suddenly interested in privacy and cypherpunk shit you FUCKING FAGGOTS?Kneel.
>>61621412This leaf is correct
>>61622465You should always buy XMR
>>61621159you have $10.3 M in XMR?
Betting on XMR is fighting against western power itself.Global transparency is not a tool against laundering, it's a weapon to commit financial war via sanctions. That's why the US fucked all privacy providers like those swiss banks. Betting on XMR you either go poof, or the jews lose to other states and monero rises
>>61621786Volatility is bad for business, but it is temporary. The current state of miners is unsustainable in the long run unless we figure out some higher emission scheme or a more resistant difficulty selection -- or just pump the price lmao. Bitmain is claiming they have an ASIC that will gives 1MH for 2500 watts. What happens when some big player realizes they can out amazon an and 51% the coin? Look how far the qubic retards got.
>>61623450>or just pump the price lmaoHappening as we speak
so picrel is the rumour
>>61622812>Monero's market cap has pulled ahead of Link.monerochads.........
>>61624202lmao monero would be not only 51% attacked but 100% attacked immediately if that happened
even if monero goes 10x btc market cap the cucked exchanges have literally signed law agreements that prevent them from listing it so HOW CAN WE WIN
>>61624311What happens if Monero gets 100% attacked?
>>61624616By doing nothing. Dexs will pick up the slack. Thorchain and Serai are on the way. Once payment channels are figured out a robosats-esqe platform will likely spring up. For sake of argument, we can also assume that the hyperliquid thing will be made 100% trustless.>>61624630>>61624311Then the devs will likely implement one of the many proposals meant to deal with that exact scenario.
>>61624747>By doing nothing.Thank you glowies for accelerating the anti-fragile timeline :D
>>61623368Lol thats trading volume on kraken, I wouldnt disclose my stack like that
>>61622265>>61622469why tf jannies deleting my posts about retoswap offers
>>61624765>599.9...why?
Feels good to realise, that having bought a car with XMR in 2023, now got more than compensated by the price hike in relation to the EUR or USD.
Kek , now the ztrash tards have one less fud to spout out about how long since ath
god when I think about all the xmr I've spent over the years I feel stupid. look at the price now
>>61625659always spend and rebuy
So how's the funding for chain security with price actions? And what happened to the anti moon tranny OP?
>>616257580.6xmr(minimum) block reward, ~720 blocks a day432xmr created per day, at $560 is $241,900 of network security payouts
>>61625758We hated moonboys for only wanting ngu
I’ve yet to hear a single explanation of Naxo Labs that satisfactorily minimizes their threat. All I’ve ever seen in response is anger without any substance behind any response. They call Monero out by name in multiple locations on their site.
>>61625841They haven't provided any proof and the bounty by the IRS is still unclaimed.
>>61625841>Naxo LabsThe guy you're spreading FUD about is named Justin Ehrenhofer. He's the guy that made Breaking Monero. A lot of the OpSec you know is because of this guy.
>>61625906They can make more over time without claiming the bounty. As soon as the bounty is claimed, naxo’s targets jump ship and they’ll have to do more work to get them.>>61625985not spreading fud, just want logical, emotion free answers. I’m autistic, not malicious.
>this downwards crabbros I thought this was the moon shot. Are we really just going to stall under $600 AGAIN?
>>61626012So? By then they still could've deanonymized everyone. So they could deanonymize everyone, sell that to the FBI, interpol etc and claim the bounty without having any drawbacks. If they were actually worried about XMR users switching to something else, they wouldn't claim to be able to track us in the first place. >>61626031Did you think it'd just go up? LOL. Us pumping will lead to more eyes on us and everyone knows that XMR always performs better under pressure.
>>61626044That’s assuming they don’t have clients. Steady payments are far superior to one lump payment for a business. In addition, if you want to go down the europol/interpol talk it’s going to get uncomfortable. Just a warning.
>>61626085>That’s assuming they don’t have clients.Wrong, I literally just told you who their clients would be. Also there isn't much reason for any non-state actor to deanonymize XMR users unless they just resell it. >Steady paymentsWhich they would still get. The IRS bounty would just be a bonus. >In addition, if you want to go down the europol/interpol talk it’s going to get uncomfortable. Just a warning.Won't change a thing about it not making sense for them to leave a few millions off the table
>>61626106Assuming you’re correct (doubtful,) then what about FluffyPony working with interpol back in 2021 to avoid jail time? They STILL haven’t said what he helped them with. Even if you’re safe on a mathematical side, you forget the human part. https://protos.com/spagni-fluffypony-monero-interpol-court-doc-bail/
>>61625906>bounty by the IRS is still unclaimedThis is not true. FOIA request on the bounty shows that it was for breaking lightening network channels OR monero transactions. It was claimed on the LN side. >https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/z9j62d/the_irs_bounty_the_full_story>https://blog.chainalysis.com/reports/lightning-network-support/
>>61626161probably explained how the chain works to lawyers
>>61626223Come on, now. You can’t really believe that, especially since they would have admitted it if that were the case.
>>61626275Admitting "we didn't get it and had this dude explain to us" would be too embarrassing.
>>61625841>minimizes their threatWhat threat? Having a website that says something vague about “””investigating””” Monero?If you don’t have specific claims you won’t get specific answers.
>>61621159We should thank Vlad Costa.
>>61626316I envy your innocence.
>>61626402This is the first actual counter point. XMR has the same backdoor access level as Zec, where only the FUD claims it exists and provides no evidence. Side note, I think what’s more threatening wouldn’t be showing interpol the non-existing backdoor, but giving away view key access. Also, you’re avoiding the other uncomfortable part. Fluffy was brought in on financial fraud and that’s the quality of man you’ve trusted with your money.
>>61626161Ok, can you show me how they used that to actually catch someone? Imagine them taking down every DNM at the same time and even other important DN resources. Complete and utter domination. So far we've seen 0 usage of whatever FP did there. >>61626214Those cheapskates couldn't even give out two separate bounties? >>61626442>Found just one year later>Back when FOSS was way smaller>With less of a financial incentive to care about it>>61626454We trust code, not devs.
>>61626402He wasn't even a dev, just a maintainer.
>>61626454>financial fraudYeah pretty based
>>61626475If they can’t admit what he helped them on, how could anyone point out that it was from that method? You’re asking me for insider information, I don’t work for Interpol. Code is good to trust, but only those who understand code can give any trust of any value. If you don’t know code and you scream “trust the code!” It’s akin to being a peasant in the Middle Ages going along with the church’s inquisition: you don’t know what you’re yelling about but someone sounds like they do so it must be right. Do you code? Or are you trying to quote scripture?
>>61626454>Side note, I think what’s more threatening wouldn’t be showing interpol the non-existing backdoor, but giving away view key access.There isn't one global view key. Every wallet has its own view key. Or do you mean fluffypony giving away the view key to his own wallets would be threatening?
>>61625758>And what happened to the anti moon tranny OP?Officially: pining for the Fjords, went the way of the dodo, etc.Unofficially: he (or someone that posts exactly like him) lurks here from time to time. >>61626012The answer is that pentesting Monero was always his thing, and no one said anything until he got a bag for selling his company to Naxo.
>>61626577>You’re asking me for insider information,Well then don't use random information to construe some case that likely doesn't exist.>but only those who understand code can give any trust of any valueUnless you got some party you trust like pentesters. >If you don’t know code and you scream “trust the code!”Thankfully I do. That's why it's on you to produce the supposed vulnerability. So far all you've got is that some random company claims they got us while they provide zero proof.
>>61625659Crypto winter eoy.
the all time monero chart looks like monero-chan's titties, except way jaggier
>>61626690Okay. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666281725001283#:~:text=Abstract,identifying%20key%2Drelated%20data%20structures.
>>61626743wtf when i run malware it can extract the keys from my wallet while i have it unlocked??
I've been meaning to buy since it was like $400 but it seems so complicated to buy it.. Do you usually swap btc or eth or usdt?
>>61626743>7. Conclusion and future directions>Trust me bro, we're working on it. Two more weeks, surely! Here comes some more "in-depth analysis"!
>>61626743>When we hack you, we can attack what you do with your PCOh fuck
>>61626818whoa.
>>61626841I do ltc personally and I go through uniswap but idc much about optimizing or w/e
>>61626743 Homomorphic encryption solves this
>>61627177Homoerotic encryption is just something academics use to publish papers. It's not real, except for some tiny ass specific scenarios nobody cares about.
When should I open my short?
What is price discovery?
>>61627534>600we didn't even get to know her
I wonder what was keeping it around $350 for so long?
>>61627553me, it was me
Why isn't the haveno price tracking?
>>61627611it seems to update once a day
>>61627686They used to print newspapers more often than that.
>>61627611>>61627686real time price can be found in the actual app
>>61621784>Monero always pumps right before a bull run. Then crashes when everything else pumpsIt was always before the global market crash
Why does RetoSwap require an XMR deposit, before being able to BUY XMR (using any fiat method)...?
Monero is about to flip a few more coins and get closer to the top 10.
>>61628045>require an XMR depositused to stop scammers and protect sellers doing lords workselect no deposit, if you dont see a pairing that works for you just swap some other crypto for xmr on trocador to get started.>simpleX chatat the bottom of the retoswap homepage, there is a link to join the simpleX chatroom.People on the Monero subreddit have said that they go to the chat to find a seller who will make a no deposit order for their first purchase, personally ive never done that. theres about 500 members in the group consisting of devs and users
>>61628249So it's only a 1-time deposit for all of trading? Or for every single tradeThank you vro
>>61628735if you already have a wallet, you could import your seed and use that in the client. but overall, both the seller AND buyer must put down a deposit, which is set by the buyer.usually 15% is what most use. so if you want to buy 1.0 xmr, you should have 0.15 xmr in your client wallet.hope this helps
>>61628793actually just found out that there is also a minimum absolute deposit of 0.1 XMR per partyso for smaller trades where 15% falls below that, the deposit defaults to 0.1 XMR
>>61628066Once XMR hits 40,000 I'll escape 8 digit hell
>>61628793This doesn't make a lot of sense to meGod I miss TradeOgre...
https://x.com/PerpetualCow/status/2010820707991650542>claims he's responsible for the 600$ priceLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>61629014At 10% fee broThat's 60,- USD fee to buy 1 XMR (600,-)
>do weekly check-in of my comfy crab coin>mfwit went up $5 since I started typing this post
POOMPA
Monero's market cap just flipped WBTC.
T H E F L I P P E N I N G
>>61621642Thanks for the dip signal. Bought more.
“Coin” in Esperanto = Monero. The answer was hidden in plain sight.
$630 stablecoin
Lol, I went all-in to this darktocurrency once Binance delisted it, lmao. Thanks suckers.
Monerochads, I have my money in bitcoins, but I've been reconsidering converting it to monero by security reasons. So I went ahead and installed everything, the wallet took a day to sync, and when I want to buy, wtf, the price has gone up like crazy. Should I buy or will it drop? Wait or buy?
>>61629712It ain't gonna get much cheaper than this imo (in my opinion).
>>61629722What the hell happened? Why did the price shoot up all of a sudden? The day before yesterday when I installed the wallet, it was around 400 and something, and now it's at 600... What happens here? Iran buying ammo to Hezbollah
>>61629712Short term it'll likely drop. That growth isn't sustainable unless there's some well-known and obvious reason behind it, we are not aware of such a reason currently. When it will drop and by how much I can't tell but I doubt it'll go below 500 (I'd even guess 530) unless the feds got some hyperfud they are looking to rollout. If you don't really need your BTC money, I'd just buy now and be patient. We will break any ceiling we'll create shortly.
>>61629712Ask yourself this: is this Monero hype way too big at the moment, or just the beginning. You can compare it to the zcash bullrun, for example. Not saying zcash pump is similar to Monero pump, but if you consider the hype part about it to be similar time-wise.Remember this though: inflation is always 7 % in a year, and 2021 spike it was 530. So 530*1.07^5 = 743, and this spike should be higher than the previous ATH because the coin didn't die, quite the opposite.
>>61629732Who knows, I don't read the news. I go by feels
>>61629760>inflation is always 7 % in a yearHey look it's a retard
>>61629760>inflation is always 7 % in a year,Lord have mercy
I used to have 3 digits, now I have 0
I almost sold at $400 but I can't be bothered to sync my wallet.
I think the real question we should be asking now that we are pumping is: are we going to be getting more nice monerochan artwork?
>>61629833i'm going to be honest that i'm mostly in it for the money. have been holding since the covid 2020 crash and been thinking of selling but it's just too bothersome at this point, especially being in eu + it'll probably take many hours to sync my 6 yo wallet. i'll just enjoy the ride now and in the foreseeable future.
Leaf here, how do I cash out? Exchange I used no longer deals with xmr.
>>61629945How much are you holding and what price did you buy at? I bought at 430 for 11 monero a month ago, feels good but I barely missed some really cheap prices
>>61629948you cannot cash out, you are here forever
Anti-moonboys in shambles
>>61629952like ~100@$60-$70 something
>>61630043Ay lemme hold summa dat
>>61629978>Cash out? Why would I lmao
>>61629688I traded half of my remaining pre-kyc BTC when XMR hit $100 after the Binance delisting. Never fucking selling.
>>61629948trade for a stablecoin on retoswap>>61630029being an antimoonboy doesnt mean you don't want number to go up
>>61621633Screencap this
>>61630102>being an antimoonboy doesnt mean you don't want number to go upmoonfags are incapable of comprehending this.
>>61629634>>61629634>Esperanto
Up or down, holding regardless, only coin that has any use after BTC sold out and got kiked to sht
>>61629712Look at this chart and make up your own mind.
Based on the cup and handle that formed on the week chart, my TA says that we should hit $740. Then we'll probably see a massive dump (maybe).
>>61630240This one is moving different.
>>61630092Well played. I will only sell for real-life goodies, not for fiat-money.
>>61630320It is different this time because of how difficult it is for people to sell their stacks, but i'd still expect a pullback at some point.
>>61629712In a similar position myself, I was planning on dumping a large sum from btc into monero and didn't do it last week simply because something random came up irl and I didn't have time, damn I feel shitty now.
$1k eom screenshot thisfuck jannies
>>61629712imagine asking this of bitcoiners 10 years ago
>>61630390How DO you sell? I know kraken but that’s KYC
>>61630462Retoswap, coincards, cakepay, xmrbazaar, daunt
>>61630462Swap to BTC, Swap to USD.Or just NEVER sell (that's what I'm going to do)
>>61630462>>61630484Are any of these on tor? What happens when you need to scan your iris to access the internet?
>>61630425Here's some older screen cap this pic.
CAKE PAY SOLD OUT OF GIFT CARDS
Holding and mining for years
>>61626161What is there to help them. Every participant and every sender generates their own keys.Unlike ZCash there is no centralized private key ritual held by a cabal of founders to reveal all private balances
He tried to warn you 8 years ago
>massive upward move>noone knows why
The market cap just flipped bitcoin cash.
Now it just flipped wrapped ETH.
Another $100 and it will flip Cardano.
>>61631377I will buy some booze to celebrate if we return to the top 10.
Honestly really annoyed by this, I'm sitting on money I was planning to dump into XMR since last week but I don't want to buy at this ATH and have it immediately drop back down a few hundred bucks and then crab for another 5 years or whatever.
>>61631382Same here. Was literally planning on buying it for the past month, after silver pumped too much for me to put more money in. It just seems to be a pain in the ass, I would have to take cash out of the bank, go to a btc atm and swap it on one of those sites. I dont even get how these big pumps are possible if its delisted from everywhere
I wasn't planning on buying or selling. I put all my XMR into into an offline wallet maybe six years ago and forgot about it until now. I don't even know how much I've got kek
>>61631345>>massive upward move>>noone knows whycould this be the reason? anyone else heard about this>>>61631375
Boat accidents ATH eoy
Fuck, I swapped half my stack into stables at $600, but it’s still going up.
NeptuneSaturnAries
selling now, I'll buy back when it corrects
i am become moonboy700 soon
guys help me sort my thoughts. i am way to biased in favor of monero and everything schizo that comes with iti am not one to degen gamble on investments. all my money is DCAing into btc eth xmr sol jlp. the closest thing to chasing quick profits is my "funfolio" with $100 in which i am 3x leveraged long into btc.and yet this pump has me itching to take some profit - cash out and put it somewhere safe.if anything else were to pump like this, i would have sold already and spread it around my portfolio... but since it is xmr that is pumping, where do i cash out to?to the extent that i am representative of other xmr schizos out thereto that extend i believe there are people coming to the same conclusion, be it consciously or subconsciously"this is it"there is nowhere to cash out toxmr is (as of right now) the best place to have your moneythat is why nobody is sellingobviously, statistically speaking, there has to be a correction. but i dont think xmr will ever truly dump unless the global financial system were to suddenly become un-fucked and un-fuckable (not likely) or xmr "abandons" its vision.from the little i know about investing:one should have a solid strategy, not let emotions guide you, and above all else never delude yourself into thinking you "know" or "understand" the market... but this conclusion i am drawing makes me believe i am seeing the fucking matrix.somebody please call me a retard quicki am scare
>>61631698You’re a retard, but not for the reasons you think. Mainly because you DCA into solana. And you also own no Linkies
This chart (cup and handle)
looks a lot like this chart
So, guess what happens next...
Is it just me or do the previous two XMR massive spike tops coincide with a massive bitcoin dump shortly after? Did a Quick Look and comparison
>>61631745This time it's different
>>61631825A visualization of >>61626729, but you can barely see it on the thumbnail.
>>61631745Because the other xmr pumps correlated with BTC/general crypto bull markets and market wide dumps. This will dump but not because of btc
I have some XMR. Just came back years later to see it's mooning. Why? Iran is buying it in exchange of equipment for the upcoming war?
just liquidated all but 1 XMRcrash down to 300 now so I can buy again
wtf i made a REALLY funny post about how its not some bank run in iran that is causing the pump, but that xmr had a soft fork to algorithmically peg its price to the body weight of this anons >>61631930 mombut my post didnt get through twice now =(
>>61631971kek.
>>61631698Retard because you write too much.
>>61631955>he soldhehe
>>61631825Cute
Which one?Silver?
>>61632098Neon?
>>61632099Or original?Binary: 0110110001101001011101100110010100100000011001100111001001100101011001010010000001101111011100100010000001100100011010010110010100101110(Live free or die)
Source SVG if anyone wants ithttps://filebin.net/uco19njc42l0slqb
>>61630730>What happens when you need to scan your iris to access the internet?That's why we have alternative networks. Tor won't save you from this though.
>>61632224I hope we find a solution/alternative to traditional TCP/IP wifi bedore they start doing this shit with captive portals too
>my old tried-and-true method of swapping XMR on Exodus wallet stopped being a thing last yearwow I really am here forever
>>61632278We already have, look into meshnets
>born too late to enjoy slavery>born too early to explore the stars>born just in time to watch zcashies kill themselves
>>61631955
>buy Monero 5 years ago>does absolutely fucking nothing the entire time >even checking the thread every day made me feel like I'm coping >finally sell everything some 4-5 months ago at a slight loss before BTC crashed massively >never come here again, enjoying my life >friend sends me message 5 minutes ago>"bro check out monero price" >look it up >come to this thread >cry
>>61632466Bro, stop.
>>61630730You buy a new iris with xmr
>>61631629>selling now, I'll buy back when it correctsRope incoming
bro how do I prepare for the IRS and police interview in 2030 when I try to cash out
There is a retard with the name of monero-xmr on hackernews that should kill himself. Stop giving monero a bad name you fucking mongoloid
God has rewarded me with a couple hundred. Now i understand that gold, silver, normalcoins, theryre all for goycattle. XMR won
>>61632103Original of course the orange is goated
>>61633226There will be no cashing out
>>61632802>Buy monero 12 years ago>Goes up 20x, collapses back>"Eh, well you know what, I like it. It's fundamentally offering something better than meme coins and Bitcoin clones. I'm going to let it ride.">Write down private key on a shopping list and put it in my safe deposit box>About a year take it out>"Dang this probably is worth really preserving">stamp full private key into steel, put back>"Oh hey that's up now"*Sips*, guess I'm turning $12k into a million soon
>>61632802You could be like me. I kept buying into Truebit over the past few years because I thought it would at least 2 or 3x and that was more than Monero was doing. My plan was to cashout when that happened and buy more xmr than I would otherwise. Then it got hacked and I lost 10 grand and have nothing to invest. Even thought about selling half of it last week to buy xmr but I didn't. Fuck my life, I'm just washing this happen and getting fomo but I have no money to invest and frankly I'm scared to after just losing 10 grand
>>61633313WHAT THE FUCK I PUT $2,000 INTO THIS 7 YEARS AGOTHANK YOU ALLI LOVE YOU GUYS
>>61633283There is no cash at the citadel.
do i sell now? i need to go drinking and im worried itll dip to like 500 or some shitalbeit we're swapping bitcoin this week
>>61634063ive been awake 22 hours and i am afraid i cant go to bed anytime soonif i were you, i would slowly DCA out. there is no chance you are going to time the top right, might aswell save yourself the worry and just continuously pull out bit by bit
so close
Looks like it's cooling off for now.
>>61633313hey man you have probably missed the xmr boat. the market cap is too high to get better than a 2x or 3x. i posted this in your original thread. please look into SALVIUM. its market cap is only 1.5m with a rank of 3338 on coingecko. it is a fork of xmr with features that make it regulatory legal without privacy compromise. this will allow it to be listed on exchanges without issues. some xmr coders have worked on it a little too.a 100x only requires a cap of 150m
>>61634079yolo
>>61634149first of all, market cap has no bearing on price actionsecond of all, being decoupled from "the market" by virtue of not conforming to regulations is precisely what makes xmr strongthis is embarrassing dude
>>61634206i just told you the privacy hasnt conformed. as for mcap, the coin has only been out a year max and was set back by the tradeogre seizure. im trying to help the guy. he can wait for xmr to 2x by adding 12billion in market cap or he can get his 2x with only 1.5m in additional mcap. what do you think happens faster?
im drinking rn and it's still mooning kek
Some anons ITT were wondering if XMR's price rise is due to Iran's fall, IDK...but I found what I just read interesting: Iran's currency has collapsed.https://x.com/_The_Prophet__/status/2010904125442310619>1. The currency has entered full reflexive death spiral>•Domestic trust is zero>•International convertibility is zero>•Sovereign backing capacity is zero>2. Structural implications:>•All imports halt immediately (fuel, food, medicine)>•Black market becomes the only functioning economy>•The regime loses control over prices, payrolls, logistics, and loyalty...>No currency = no supply chain = no governance = no controlInteresting glimpse into currency collapse. Black markets are still functioning apparently.
bitcoin does NOT solve this because the government can track every penny you ownmeanwhile iraniggas holding monero are chillin right now
>>61634337isnt there no internet in iran right now?
>>61634378all i'm saying is high iq individuals, especially those ruled by tranny tyrants, convert their fiat into the most private currency
>>61634404I read an article saying Starlink is being provided to them for free right now.
>>61634404>isnt there no internet in iran right now?The blockcains/internet doesnt work when you turn off your pc. Just like the world dies when tou go to sleep.Sub animal IQ
When is monero observer coming back?
anyone here actually used XMR to buy anything (other than drugs)? If so, what and where? was looking at the different platforms on cryptwerk but 99% of them look dubious at best
>>61634628Nope. Only (d)rugs personally.
>>61634628>anyone here actually used XMR to buy anythingMullvad VPN (the best way to get a vpn) short of using tor for free.You can exchange XMR for debit/store credit on cakepay. The fact that xmr can be used for net candy by degens is enaugh that it proves its use case. Even if you can directly buy at most mom and pap stores. It major secondary use case for based normies is a store of value
Peaked? struggling to hit 700 and now struggling at 660is the runup over ???
>>61634628I bought a weezer album in 2017… it was 40 USD… but “today” it’s cost me $400
>>61634767>how do you buy and send it to your wallet and buy stuff with it when the internet is down, riddle me thatYou w8 it out until it returns back or go somewhere where there is internet. You could trade cold storage seeds offline (there was a solution for og btc, before they shut down production). Turning it i to a silver/gold like medalion which can redeemed. You still get monero payments to your adress even if you cant see them.etc
>>61621281where do people even buy this shitcoin? it's delisted everywhere (probably why it pumped)
>>61634614no shit, but how do you buy, withdraw and spend with no internet?
>>61634962https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BCmint_Physical_BitcoinT.you
Has price discovery settled on about $650?
>>61634628>anyone here actually used XMR to buy anything (other than drugs)?I used XMR for kyun.host and physical >>>/global/rules/15/
What's the actual future of XMR? Will it always be that one intermediate thing that hides a remote fiat transaction? Will we ever see XMR being a principal unit of exchange?
>>61633313The Monerochan token might be a reasonable bet considering it rides XMR's coattails.>>61635154>Will we ever see XMR being a principal unit of exchange?Only if people actually use it to buy goods and services.
>>61634628https://addy.io/
>>61634628Sure, lots of shit. Everything from sunglasses to my vpn and a 3d printer
Ok, I did it, monerobros. I bought Monero with Bitcoin now that Bitcoin finally reached the price I entered at... The question is, will Monero grow or was this a bad decision? Monero-chan, please don't dump.
>>61634294there are many similar projects with similar promises. i aint buying any of those. all-in monero. fuck the rest, the original cryptoc... privacy coin.
>>61634337I find the Chinese DNM narrative more plausible.
>>61634628VPN, VPS, domains, lots of steam wallet gift cards, nano-gpt, some other random shit... For most of those I go through a swapper and LTC though.
>>61635564I agree with this one, it makes the most sense, but of course no great information. Just some freezing of tether funds for some $200M USDT in january 11.
>>61635461>please don't dumpIt will.
>>616356951k EOW
>>61635461>he BOUGHT monero at 700Its still gonna grow, i havent sold either.
Was gonna swap btc for xmr 20 hours ago but i forgot to slide on cake wallet and it went up like 50 dollars before i realized i forgot to exchange and corrected my slackness 16 hours ago, oh well, had around 2.98 before that and xmr has a very bright future with privacy becoming increasingly valued
Being an xmr wholecoiner in the future will be like being a btc wholecoiner is today
how come nobody posted this image yet?
>>61636031where chainlink
>>61636623in india (not pictured)
>>61634628Local mom and pop business was complaining about exorbitant payment processing fees and was asking everyone to pay patch. I asked them if they'd tried crypto for e-payments. They said that the KYC and fee bullshit made it worse than a normal payment processor and that they didn't trust crypto at all. I walked them through installing the Monero wallet on their PC and putting the seed in their safe and now they have a Monero QR code by the register. They say that, aside from me, a few of their older silver-bug and cash-only friends have gotten into paying with it, too.The best part about this currency is that it's so hostile to crypto crap that it can be pitched to people who actually make stuff and provide services without scaring them off, and those are the people who genuinely back any currency.
OOOOOOOO
700 in 3...2...1...
If we break resistance at 700 are we teleporting to 777 and flipping Cardano for top 10 tonight?
>>61637077Well we'll see. If it hits top 10 major news wave will spur buying
700 BUCKS!!
we made it to 700 boys
If Zyzz was alive in the age of cryptos, I bet he would have promoted Bitcoin back in the day like crazy, and today Monero, the only goddamn cryptocurrency.Here some background music while looking at the charts, you sick cunts. We gonna make it, brahs!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Ls-2-XkkE
why does everyone look at the XMR/USD price and not the XMR/BTC price? the latter seems much more meaningful.
>>61637155Rich piana would be all in on monero
>>61637160Gooood fucking morning!
Feels shitty that I was not able to ever accumulate enough to seriously make it. I did try and stack up for the 21 club, but even that is so pitifully low an amount what’s the point. Still doomed to forever be a wagie. Totally fucked life up on this run. Had been aware of bitcoin around the 600$ ish number and did fuck all to buy in until only ever see to have timed the top. XMR I’ve believed in forever but really just mined and the odd time when was available bought some. But never enough.. feels good to see it finally start getting momentum, but if only I was one of these hundred XMR plus holders could I really ever try be happy
>>61637158Who cares about Bitcoin?
>>61637293You reek of envy.Buy what you can and rake in the gains. There will always be more wealthy than you and if you can't let go of that you'll never be content.
>>61637303who cares about USD?
>>61637293Nigga who cares if you have 20 xmr or 100+ xmr. It's not like you aren't winning if you make 100k. Even though you aren't set for life it's still a huge chunk of cash you didn't have before. I only have 11 xmr but every bit is a blessing
>>61637322I do because my food, rent, clothes, bills are priced in USD.I don't know how much food 1 monero can buy me, I know how much food 700 dollars can buy me.
Monero will never pump to any meaningful degree because it's actually good. That's just how it is.And a "true cypherpunk" wouldn't care about this fact at all. It's not about the price. If you want to make money, go invest in pyramid schemes.
>>61637377Doing a 7x in less than 4 years is already a meaningful pump, so you're incorrect.Also the price matters. It's money, the value of it matters. No need to try and be a cringe theorist purist, the tech is worthless if the coin is worthless or keeps going down.
Congrats from /pmg/ privacy schizos. Wish I had bought some but we are both winning so it’s cool.
>>61637419Thanks silverbug, godspeed.
>>61637419/pmg/ and /XMR/ have always been friends.Different approach, same goal.
>>61637404Worthless, yeah, but as long as it has some amount of value it still functions, and it always will have valueAnd yeah $150 to $700 is cool, but Bitcoin did $100 to $1100 in 2013. So, you know
>>61637432>something else did a 13x therefore a 7x doesn't matterYour sense of scale is skewed, 7x is life-changing and qualifies as a meaningful pump in every way.
>>61636623Kek baggy
>>61637377A true cypherpunk would know that Monero's utility is only as good as its security. And its security is directly tied to its hashrate, which is directly tied to its price. I.e. how many miners are financially incentivized to secure the network? And what's the monetary cost to mount a 51% attack?
$700 OOOOOOOOOO
Uhh guys, is the price gonna crash again within the year? I had a couple grand I bought for around $200ish I was holding for my parents but I've spent it all on drugs over the past year. Am I gonna have to rope to get out of this?
>>61621013>doesnt move for decades>start relentlessly pumping for no reasonwtf is this coins problem ?
>>61638079Monero-chan love drug users.It's thanks to you that the currency is used and valuable.
>>61638079assuming the patterns it should crash in a few weeks or monthshowever it's breaking ATHs as we speak so in part it's not looking good for you
>>61638079>>61638184XMR is the the new currency for the dark web, which makes it the new BTC. BTC isn't really used anymore on the DW. So expect XMR to gradually rise in value over time too.
don't worry guys, I top blasted the money I was holding for XMR just now, it will now dump a bit so the rest of you can buy in
>>61638295New bread >>61638295New bread
>>61638312>page 2
Wasn't there some post every thread some time ago, that calculated something about comparative BTC and XMR inflation rates and predicted a timeframe where XMR will play catch up?
>>61638079Spent 2000 Monero on drugs. Legend
>>61638410Yeah like 2040 XMR supply will exceed Bitcoin.But XMR is just generated at a fixed rate at like 158,000 a year. So that's under 1% inflation a year now, it'll gradually go lower as the supply increases. For comparison gold increases at around 1.4%.In any event Monero inflation is trivial and probably negative or nearly negative at this point when you consider burned coins, lost wallets etc. It's not a meaningful distinction either way really.
>>61621633Put me in the screencap
