Welcome to /XMR/ Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's most widely adopted privacy coin.XMR payments are anonymous, low-fee, and fully fungible. Users can send and receive XMR globally without having to worry about tainted coins. Battle-tested privacy tech (Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses and RingCT) ensures that critical TX data cannot be gleaned from the Monero blockchain; the TX history of all XMR users is kept hidden, with TXs being optionally transparent via the aid of a view key.XMR ensures low TX fees by employing a dynamic block size that can "stretch" to easily accommodate sudden TX spikes.XMR's mining algorithm, RandomX, is optimized for devices using general-purpose CPUs e.g. desktops, laptops, smartphones, tablets, keeping the barrier to entry low and ASICs out of the equation.XMR's tail emission - 0.6 XMR per block forever - incentivizes for-profit miners to keep mining, helping boost long-term network security. This constant linear inflation trends to zero and is offset by coin loss.XMR has proven to be the only altcoin capable of overcoming BTC's network effect by driving it out of the darknet economy BTC dominated for over 10 years. XMR is also starting to overtake BTC in clearnet commerce as well.If you still have questions, feel free to ask. A MoneroChad will be with you shortly.XMR Redpill: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4BUY XMR: https://monero.eco/exchanges/Crypto ATMs: https://coinatmradar.com/XMR Resources: https://monero.observer/resources/XMR Stats: https://moneroj.netUSE XMR: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/OFFICIAL WEBSITE: https://getmonero.orgMINING: https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/mining/WALLETS:>DesktopOfficial GUI/CLI walletFeatherwalletStack Wallet>MobileCake WalletMonero.comStack WalletUnstoppable Monerujo (Android)Monfluo (Android)>Infodumpshttps://rentry.org/monero-explainedhttps://moneroinfodump.neocities.org Previous: >>61696640
>Is mining profitable?>Why should I mine?See: https://moneroj.net/hashvsprice/This chart shows that mining makes XMR more valuable by making the network more secure and more expensive to attack. If you have an interest in increasing the value of XMR, consider mining.>Poolshttps://miningpoolstats.stream/moneroNote: qubic.org is a malicious pool that does NOT payout in XMR.>Reddithttps://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining>CPU benchmarkshttps://xmrig.com/benchmark>Profit calculatorshttps://iwillsolo.com/monero/https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/monero/calculatorNote: the hash rates on xmrig.com are more accurate>I'm rich and want a dedicated mining device Antminer X5Hashrate: 212000 H/sPower draw: 1350 WCost: ~$2800, Doesn't include shipping costsHashes per $: ~70By far the most powerful miner on the market. There's no official bitmain support for this device; you're on your own for updates/repairs>I'm poor and want a dedicated mining deviceMINISFORUM 795S7Hashrate: 19250 H/sPower draw: 142 WCost: $607 shipped Hashes per $: 32As of 2025 it's the best bang for your buck. No room for upgrades, though.>On P2PoolMining in P2Pool is easier than ever with Gupax:1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)3. Launch Gupax4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, or your own node6. Start P2Pool7. Start XMRigVIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/>DUE TO BOTNETS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!>Can I use my GPU too?Yes. MoneroOcean mines GPU-shitcoins, sells them, and pays you out in XMR. To get started, visit the help page on:https://moneroocean.stream/>IF MINING ON MONEROOCEAN MAKE SURE YOU'RE USING MO-XMRig TO MAXIMIZE PROFITS
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First for litecoin
if i buy monero from an KYC'd exchange will i be put on a list?
>>61758331>>61758078>The guy who's clearly dumbing down his speech sounds dumbNo shit Sherlock >>61758442>but to the new paradigm that this technology might bring: compliant wallets that can prove they have neither received nor sent XMR to or from other tainted wallets, versus other wallets that have not yet proven this, leaving them considered tainted until proven otherwise.View balance keys can't do this.>>61758509>That only works if there is a massive scale of collected view keys.It doesn't and my example from earlier was wrong.See:https://github.com/jeffro256/carrot/blob/master/carrot.md#92-unlinkabilityAndhttps://github.com/jeffro256/carrot/blob/master/carrot.md#93-forward-secrecyCARROT txs are unlinkable on chain even if you know the destination address. The best anyone can do is guess.If you know the view key of a wallet, you can tell>where internal enotes are received>where/if they are spent>the amountsBut not where those enotes came fromTherefore my example here >>61704945>If coinbase has outgoing view keys for Alice and Bob, they can tell that Alice sent coins to BobShould actually be>If coinbase has outgoing view keys for Alice and Bob, they can guess that Alice sent coins to Bob, but they can't guarantee that Bob didn't receive coins from Amerah from ISIS.If I'm reading the documentation correctly.This fud actually made me dig in to the CARROT side of things, so thanks for being retarded I guess.
>>61761916Why would you do such a thing. Read the fucking op and buy from no kyc exchange. >>61761951I wonder if it’s going to go anywhere. It should be put on more than one exchange for it to escape irrelevancy.
>>61761962So far it looks promising and has solid fundamentals so I'm giving it a shot. Rumors on their discord is that there's another listing being announced next week.
>>61761983I put in some money in it for the lulz and mined whole 1,5 XNVs.
>>61761870monero-chan is so cute
>>61762002gigachadAlso a pro tip for my Monero bros. You can mine more XMR by mining Nerva and trading for Monero on NonKyc. There's a XMR/XNV pair. With a decent 16 core CPU you can mine around 50-60 XNV a day which is about 0.004 XMR right now. If you mined Monero directly with the same CPU power you would only get around 0.0007 XMR a day, so about six times more Monero for the same hash rate.
>>61762121Does moneroocean have it?
>>61762138No, it's designed to be truly decentralized so no mining pools. You have to mine it directly on your computer.
Has monero officially responded to the OVK situtation and the critical responses yet? Asking for a friend, I don't wanna fight.
>>61761951>premined shitcoin>le heckin privacy coin (that no one uses)Nice try, glownigger.
>>61763157they actually lost a MASSIVE chunk of circulating supply on tradeogre, which means that each coin is actually astronomically more valuable, technically speaking. I read up on it the other night while seeking alternatives to monero due to hard fork. >>61763118 call it a shitcoin if you want, but if it is, then technically so is monero as it was forked from it.
>>61762172>No, it's designed to be truly decentralized so no mining pools. You have to mine it directly on your computer.Wownero already did this years ago.Also>https://github.com/nerva-project/nerva/>last commit 2 years agoVery maintained and updated fork, sure. 0% chance of bugs or spyware here, goy.
>>61761916Monero is a XKEYSCORE word. Sorry anon.
>>61763248>Very maintained and updated fork, sure. 0% chance of bugs or spyware here, goy.Reversing the binaries yielded no obvious spyware as of now, but their GUI is a shitfest pulling from their own CDN.This is moronically stupid. I wouldn't use the GUI for that reason alone.CLI tools from github releases should be okay, but I'm not mining either.
>>61761916maybe. probably inadvisable. get btc/etc and atomic swap if you need xmr
>>61761951>NervaWhat kind of shit coin is that, it's not even listed on Coinmarketcap.If you post about your stupid coin again I'll come to your house and rape you just like I raped the 0xMonero guy.
My answer to this question was also wrong.>>61707016>Would the exchanges have been able to tell if you weren't actually sending all the key images?It depends on the wallet.See:https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-research-lounge/20260130#c653228The CLI/GUI wallet will warn you if your owned outputs don't have matching key images and your balance might be incorrect.
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>>61764631Alright, you asked for it.Rape you next week.
>>61764751why next week though?
to the moon
>>61761962>I wonder if it’s going to go anywhere.Why would it? Even shill#1 can't tell us why to use nerva over XMR. >>61762121>You can mine more XMR by mining Nerva and trading for Monero on NonKyc.Funny. The same exact marketing was used by cfb in the beginning...
>>61761870Now is the time to DCA monero everyday. Monero has less coins than btc. There's going to be a revolution. You will be ripping your hair out in the future over the price of ONE coin. Screencap this.
gpu mining monero is trans hoyl shit (ie kowpow and pool)
>>61764804because he's raping me this week
when do i buy? when it gets under 400? whens a reasonable spot to expect it won't go any lower?it can't possibly go under 380, right?
>>61763187This anon gets it. The circulating supply is extremely low and you can mine a decent amount right now.>>61763248Code is publicly available, you can review it yourself>>61763858Devs are already talking about increasing ring size and adding a couple of bug fixes/features to the wallet. We can could see a new release in the next couple of weeks.>>61764160Coingecko and Coinmarketcap has already been engaged for relisting, should be back up including legacy data next week. Listings fell off after TradeOgre got taken down.Devs are active on Discord, you can drop in any time and ask about the project. I find legacy privacy coins fascinating. It won't replace Monero but there's growing demand for privacy coins where it'll find it's own space.
>>61765918start your own general
>>61765713>when do i buy?Always>when it gets under 400?Won't happen. Look at their current fud. They are happy with us being over 400. >whens a reasonable spot to expect it won't go any lower?When they don't sponsor twitter influencers to push the next coin>it can't possibly go under 380, right?Correct>>61765918>increasing ring sizeIn the last nerva shill thread your cohort said the ring size doesn't matter (>>61751539 and more) . If they're talking about it and if the last push (this isn't even about updates but literally the last time ANY acceptable development was done) was two years ago you all will need at least one year to get to the state of being able to update ANYTHING.
>>61766206>start your own generalread the catalog please>>61760890
>>61765131>Why would it? Even shill#1 can't tell us why to use nerva over XMR. it can only go up, as it was a privacy coin that has been just sitting around. the reason for nerva over xmr is that xmr is doing shady shit with the view keys. doesn't anyone read these threads?>Funny. The same exact marketing was used by cfb in the beginningthat can be said about literally any coin, ever. its entirely logically good news to anyone who does trading. not sure why youre attempting to make this a talking point>>61766560>you all will need at least one year to get to the state of being able to update ANYTHINGwhy? did the programming language change? not trying to be an ass but this is what true FUD looks like.
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>>61767315You must be very new >>61767380>it can only go upThere's no reason to invest in it>as it was a privacy coin that has been just sitting aroundNo development (both price and code) isn't a good thing. >shady shit with the view keysWrong>doesn't anyone read these threads?The one not reading any of the generals is you. This is the third general in the row that debunked that retarded carrot is le bad nonsense. See >>61761926>that can be said about literally any coin, everNo, most coins are not mined in pairs. What I'm saying is that Qubit also positioned itself as a pro-XMR coin/AI/whatever else cfb needs to shill to investors. Eating up XMR's hashrate and mc isn't pro-XMR. Telling us to avoid the 16-ring-size coin for the 5-ring-size coin isn't pro-16.>its entirely logically good news to anyone who does trading.No, it's you piggybacking off something respected and thereby trying to bolster your own reputation while being a downgrade in every conceivable way. The only pro-nerva argument you have is that you misunderstand and misrepresent the potential changes of carrot when its finally introduced. Otherwise nerva is in every way just a massive downgrade. >why?What are CVEs?
>>61767380>did the programming language change?Let me check that for you. >C++ (79%)Big developments since nerva release, new release scheduled for marchAlso "Starting in 2012, the committee has transitioned to a “decoupled” model where major pieces of work can progress independently from the Standard itself and be delivered in “feature branch” TSes.">C (17.2%)New standard after last nerva release>python (0.4%)The current versions that still receive bug fixes weren't available during the last nerva release. If they are lucky, the used a version which is still getting security updates but that isn't guaranteed either. Over 96% of your code is based on outdated versions of languages. The one open issue you have has been sitting around for 2 years. That issue was already fixed by XMR. When upstream fixes an issue before you even though it's just a simple line that needs to be added you are doing something completely wrong. The "closed" issure isn't even solved, it's just a won't-fix for something menial.
>>61767380Remember when you said nerva came from XMR devs? I find that interesting because the devs on the nerva repo are 1. A 23-year old indian. No connection to XMR. 2. A 25 year old malaysian, his one linked repo on his profile isn't even nerva lol. Forked some XMR-adjacent project once, didn't do any work on it. 3. Some guy who now focuses on two other coins and hasn't contributed on github in over a year. No connection to XMR but at least he made a bot that checks how often you said owo in discord. 4. Another guy who also hasn't contributed in over a year. No connection to XMR. 5. And the unsung hero who published the nerva whitepaper. His pinned repos are all about other wallets and miners but nothing about nerva. If you looked at his profile you'd read about turtlecoin (what even is that?), XMR and cryptonote before you see the teeny tiny mention of nerva. He at least contributed to OTHER projects in the last year. Also forked some XMR-adjacent projects but did no work. Also seemingly close friends with the indian since he's one of the two people who commented on the indian's site about what a hard worker he is and both of them are the only ones considered a core part of the nerva project. Where is your amazing XMR dev you talked about? Where is the exciting new development? Looks like you're friends with one of the devs and try to pump his bags. What do you offer besides literal FUD about XMR? You don't even understand the basics of programming. Your coin has been dead for YEARS. Maybe invest in turtlecoin instead, there seems to be much more interest.
>>61767846>>61767858>>61767886jesus christ, im not reading any more of your blog posts. If you have to write that much, then you're grasping at straws. if you had read the website which has many nooks and crannies, youd know that it was the nerva devs who actually developed some of the privacy improvements that were incorporated into XMR, but it being a separate project did not incorporate all of the ideas. Cryptonight-adaptive being one of those ideas, which nerva uses.>This is the third general in the row that debunked that retarded carrot is le bad nonsenseAny incorporation of new attack vectors that add questionable to no benefits is not a good thing and you know it. monero reddit removing posts that even ask about it is a BIG FAT RED FLAG.
>>61767846>You must be very new >assumes in redditlow tier non-desu bait>>61767886>omg i stalked these people so hard, you wouldnt believe how hard ive stalked them this is the funniest thing i've seen all yearmaybe wipe the spit off your keyboard anon and cool your stack, holy shit.
>>61768139>If you have to write that much, then you're grasping at straws.I collected all of your arguments and completely disproved them. Your devs are shit. You have no dev work done anymore. Everything you use is outdated. >websiteI care about the code, not the website with PR speech. If you check the website you'd also see that nerva doesn't even have any development planned for two years. For two years you have open issues and you do NO dev work? You spent all of 2025 to 'grow Nerva's X presence'. Even when you look at the site, it says nothing about having done any dev work that was pushed upstream. However, you can easily find typos. >youd know that it was the nerva devs who actually developed some of the privacy improvements that were incorporated into XMRWhich one of the five contributors? None of the ones listed on github have ever pushed any change to monero. Which dev? Which PR? According to nerva's website nerva 'utilizes exclusive cryptonight adaptive algorithm' so that's clearly not the same. >new attack vectorsYou mean none? >to no benefitsWhat's the benefit of nerva having a significantly lower ring size? >monero reddit removing posts that even ask about it is a BIG FAT RED FLAG.Because that's the same retarded fud that you have spewed despite us having shown you again and again that the supposed attack vector doesn't even exist. Not knowing that software can become outdated is a much bigger red flag. Tell me, do your devs know that they are running outdated software and allowing your finances and privacy to be at risk or are they simply unaware of that?
>>61768219What happened to >im not reading any more of your blog posts.You held on for 11 minutes. And you still haven't answered any of my concerns about 1. You posting incorrect fud. 2. No relevant price development for months3. No code development being bad. It wasn't even maintained!4. You ignoring everyone in the general and samefagging. 5. You using qubit logic to onboard people. 6. You having less than one third of our ring size. 7. You acting like a parasite. 8. Your devs being nonames (that sadly have their real life names on their own sites). 9. 96.6% of your code base being potentially outdated. >this is the funniest thing i've seen all yearWill it also be funny when the IRS will 'stalk' your devs by visiting their personal sites linked on their github pages and you losing all your funds because you trusted some random 23 year old raj? If XMR was as weak as you all the markets that rely on us would've collapsed already.
>>61768624>>61768636>giant speech about monero is invincible and something about "nerva code is bad" and brown people who merely helped maintain a project>ignores anything I have written here or what the banned reddit posts say about monero cucking to the jew and introducing attack vectorsyou do realize others are reading this right? they can simply go check reddit and see for themselves. the new OVK method allows viewing incoming transactions, it makes any data mining by surveillance 2x as easy. I literally have to do absolutely nothing here, your spewing doesnt change that. if youre not a shill, it makes you look like one. Me shilling nerva is still a win btw, because right now monero can still be pool mined and is not gpu/asic resistant. >You held on for 11 minutesthe spewing made it somewhat fun.
>>61767846>>61767858>>61767886>>61768624>>61768636Holy cope, I ain't reading all of thati'm happy for you or sorry that happened
>>61768746>ignores anything I have written hereWhich of your points didn't I acknowledge? I even scoured your js-riddled site just to find that there isn't the claim of the mysterious XMR dev. >the banned reddit posts say about monero cucking to the jew and introducing attack vectorsYou forgot to include 'wrong' in there. >you do realize others are reading this right?Yes, that's why I'm replying to each and every one of your points. >they can simply go check reddit and see for themselves.And then they can check the generals and see that in the last two weeks, out of nowhere despite carrot being talked about years ago, this fud started and is shutdown in mere minutes by anyone who actually reads what carrot will influence. >the new OVK method allows viewing incoming transactions, it makes any data mining by surveillance 2x as easy.Again, read >>61761926. Don't trust the post? Read the sources provided. Stop embarrassing yourself. >I literally have to do absolutely nothing hereThen why are you spending your time shilling here instead of finally closing that two year old open issue? >it makes you look like one.Shills normally don't provide sources. Which is why I'm asking you to back up your claim about nerva pushing code upstream. No, the site doesn't mention it. >XMR isn't ASIC resistant These are the best fudders they got? >the spewing made it somewhat fun.You already said you wouldn't read what I said after I 'spewed' everything. You literally went back on your word only to embarrass yourself even more online. And still no source to any of your claims was provided. >>61768875Then tell me why we should use a ring size of 5 instead of 16.
>>61768905>You already said you wouldn't read what I said after I 'spewed' everything. You literally went back on your word only to embarrass yourself even more online.>mad that i can change my mind>You forgot to include 'wrong' in there. no i didnt, keep reading below>they can check the generals and see that in the last two weeks, out of nowhere despite carrot being talked about years ago, this fud started and is shutdown in mere minutes by anyone who actually reads what carrot will influence>Again, read >>61761926. Don't trust the post? Read the sources provided. Stop embarrassing yourself.This is actually not true, the reddit comments end without replies to their concerns, and the ones defending the change occasionally recognize that theyre wrong. There has been no dev commentary so far.>I even scoured your js-riddled site just to find that there isn't the claim of the mysterious XMR dev. then you didnt scour hard enough, or perhaps it was lost inbetween site changes. It may have been on the whitepaper, idk. I remember reading it.>XMR isn't ASIC resistant >These are the best fudders they got? thats not a selling point for xmr, and the fudders arent talking about that anyway. > tell me why we should use a ring size of 5 instead of 16.the new fork with fcmp++ or whatever will make it 1000 instead of 16, but with a backdoor built in, who cares? No one has broken the ring size of 5 yet. An ounce of development and nerva smokes xmrLike i said, drop the hostility and take time to think. nerva wasnt shilled out of the blue, some anon was asking for an alternative to monero due to the hard fork the other night, and they came across nerva. i also did some scouring and deemed it to be a decent monero replacement. rather than accuse nerva of being shilled, ask yourself why your covering monero's dev team's asses when theyre deliberately fucking up?
>>61765918>Devs are active on Discord>trooncordGo back, faggot.
>>61761870Planning on buying XMR for the first time. Should I just buy XMR directly from my KYC exchange, or buy a liquid coin and swap it?
>>61769129Either one is fine.Once the coin is in your wallet it's private so it's all good in the end.
>>61769129Either way, if you're paranoid about it swap.I bought on Binance back then for my first 11 and have no reason to worry despite KYC.Trocador has never failed me once for swaps.
>>61769004>>mad that i can change my mindNo it shows how disingenuous you are. You're just trying to get some gotchas here but fail to notice that you seem like a little weasel in the process. >no i didnt, keep reading belowYes you did. Keep reading all of the generals we had since the carrot fud started. >the reddit comments end without replies to their concernsYes, most of the community doesn't spend its time to correct fud. I do because I love to use this later to show how you'll avoid everything you said in the past (like having the XMR dev that is prominently shown on the website) just so you don't seem like loser in this sad conversation. >There has been no dev commentary so far.So you didn't read the sources? >then you didnt scour hard enoughNow you're even saying control+f isn't good enough for your tastes? >perhaps it was lost inbetween site changesSo you don't even know what's in the sources you use! Also I checked, none of the 303 contributors on the XMR repo are also on any of the nerva repos.>It may have been on the whitepaperIt doesn't contain the words 'Monero', 'XMR, 'cryptonight' or 'upstream'. Also a whitepaper wouldn't even talk about the devs, their previous work or other cryptocurrencies (unless it's directly forked from it but even then it's not advisable). >Source: I remember reading it....>thats not a selling point for xmr,Yes being ASIC resistant is a selling point. We always made fun of the centralization of hashing power in BTC and that's why we have randomx. >and the fudders arent talking about that anyway.My point is that you are not educated about XMR at all. The difference in mining is that you have pools and we don't. That's the big difference. Feel free to tell me how that helps you with anything (it doesn't). >1000 instead of 16,No. That is blatantly wrong.
>>61769004>but with a backdoor built inWhich one? Where is it? No it's not carrot related. Carrot right now would only give you what >>61761926 described. Carrot when we have fcmp++ would give you pretty much nothing to track us in any way. This is why, and we already told you this multiple times, carrot will come with fcmp++. >No one has broken the ring size of 5 yet.The whole point of the ring size isn't that it gets broken but even if you are deanonymized somehow (which is far more likely with your outdated 0.2 release - yes you're not even at a full release stage) and they say 'We know you have been involved in this transaction' you can tell them 'You can only be 1/ring size sure that it was me'. The legal defense is immensely stronger with a higher ring size. Therefore you have no reason to artificially keep the ring size down. >drop the hostilityThis is me being nice. I want you retards to have your own generals, stay in them and not bother us. Instead your cohort spams this thread, shits up the board and all for some ring size 5 v0.2 crypto currency that hasn't seen development in 2 years. >nerva wasnt shilled out of the blueAdmitting that this shilling isn't organic is a ballsy strategy.>a decent monero replacement.No development, minimal ring size, minimal shilling leads to massive jump in price (this means it was so dead that just two or three retards here put pennies in and it exploded) and hash rate, relisting (meaning the jews don't see it as a problem), still no argument against XMR. The only reason nerva was even created was the unfounded hatred for pools. >deliberately fucking up?Because they are not fucking up. Just read the sources for once.
look at this>10 posts by this ID I5XheCFf>man writes more unanswered blogs than AIthis guy seems to think i somehow trans-exist across threads and generals. and while i have been here for a few of them, (at least the first time when a rando anon mentioned nerva while seeking a new privacy coin, some threads i never even posted) he thinks ive somehow followed him to personally attack him across space-time. kek, you should be in bed for school, tomorrow is monday.oh and remember, you started this:>You must be very newI didn't even want to really engage:>Asking for a friend, I don't wanna fight.
>>61769277>he thinks ive somehow followed him to personally attack him across space-time.No I think you're one of the retards that has been pushing nerva for days now. You got the same exact writing style like the guy I'm thinking of. >oh and remember, you started this:Correct. And you still didn't close the issue that has been open for two years. >I don't wanna fight.Then fuck off already. We don't want you in the MONERO thread. We want to talk about MONERO, not something that has been forked from monero and since then made no improvements while also not implementing any of the benefits we had. You are free to leave. No one is making you stay here and show everyone that you can't even answer one simple question about your little insecure shitcoin. If you wanted to save face you'd act like >>61768875 and just ignore even the most basic questions but by constantly engaging with me you are showing how much time you like to waste while not even denying any of the claims made against nerva.
>>61769349>I think you're one of the retards that has been pushing nerva for days nowagain, you're a fucking loon. go mathematically measure grammar and sentence structure elsewhere>writing styleim not the same person you think i am, and you write like a psycopath. seriously, get help.>Correct. And you still didn't close the issue that has been open for two years.P S Y C H OSYCHO>Then fuck off already. We don't want you in the MONERO thread. We want to talk about MONERO, not something that has been forked from monero and since then made no improvements--cryptonight-adaptive is an improvementno pools is an improvementcpu-only is an improvement>while also not implementing any of the benefits we had--the new OVK backdoor you mean that has went unanswered>No one is making you stay here and show everyone that you can't even answer one simple question about your little insecure shitcoin.literally get help, i browse here for fun>by constantly engaging with me you are showing how much time you like to waste while not even denying any of the claims made against nerva.actually, i cooked a pizza and ate it while occasionally replying to your psychopathic posts... btw im right, the new site doesnt mention the monero dev but the old one did before it went down. apparently you didnt search hard enough lmao. i wont give you my source either because fuck you, kek.
So anyway I have 1 whole monero
>>61769440>im not the same person you think i am,Oh surely you're not. You just randomly got super invested in a shitcoin after some random 4chinner shilled it to you a few days ago. >P S Y C H OShilling your bags so you can pnd on some retards is way worse than my writing style. >cryptonight-adaptive is an improvementAnd nowhere mentioned on the website except for being 'utilized' in a sentence with a grammar mistake. It also doesn't say that it comes from nerva devs. The claim that the nerva devs implemented cryptonight is simply unfounded. >no pools is an improvementIncorrect. This only pushes for people to have their own CPU farms. So basically the same as BTC ASIC farms in which only the ones who got the most liquid fiat funds have the most say about the hash rate. >cpu-only is an improvementWe already have that. Look into what randomx is. >the new OVK backdoor you mean that has went unansweredNot a backdoor. Doesn't do the things you ascribed to it. Wouldn't work even if it did those things. Would still require opt-in. >i browse here for funPublicly embarrassing yourself to shill your shitcoin is fun to you? Please don't use me for your weird fetish- >i cooked a pizzaWho says 'cooked a pizza'? What kind of ESL doesn't know about baking? >but the old one did before it went down.You mean the dev that isn't both a contributor to nerva and xmr? Did github lie too? How come you still haven't named him yet or sent a source to your claims?>apparently you didnt search hard enough lmao.You provided zero (0) sources. I gave you multiple chances to give any source while also visiting your shitty site AND github. >i wont give you my source either because fuck you,Just admit that you made it up, that'd be more based. I know that's all you care about besides pushing your shitcoin onto us.
I'M LOSING MONEYI KEEP BUYING EVERY TIME IT GOES DOWN $50 AND IT KEEPS GOING DOWNI'LL NEVER FINANCIALLY RECOVER FROM THIS
>>61769548>i cooked a pizza>Who says 'cooked a pizza'? What kind of ESL doesn't know about baking?..........................................................wut.......................................what kind of response is that....................................is this an Al shiII-bot or a severely touched jdif soIdier that im responding too...?III teII you what, lII just chaIk this up too a bot of some sort. l remember these bots from back around 2015. Iets see how it responds to this interaction.
>>61769651>for weeksi don't know anon these threads are usually really slow and can last for weeks, and i've just started hearing of nerva since the very end of the last thread just a few days agoeither you're being paid to advertise this, or you did something and are about to be raped by a nigger if someone won't invest into this shitcoin soon enough
>>61769802I've been mining it for two weeks now since another anon posted about it here on /biz/
>>61769802its probably a joke, considering the anon-bot-5000 that has been replying to me seems to also think it has been shilled for weeks, and at most the first thread was maybe 5 days ago. I remember some anon asking about an alternative due to OVK issue, and then they made a thread about it. Since then it seems to be on the move upward and is being talked about, whether its a pump and dump i dont know. It seems legit, the discord is active, and i do vaguely recall when the coin was created a few years ago so it has been around for a while.>paid to advertise thisi think its just the fact that it got relisted on an exchange after being delisted years ago, and its doing well as far as i can tell.
>>61769591That's a good thing! The price being lower means usage will increase. Don't be a moonboy!
>>61769678>is this an Al shiII-bot or a severely touched jdif soIdier that im responding too...?>III teII you what, lII just chaIk this up too a bot of some sort. l remember these bots from back around 2015. Iets see how it responds to this interaction.to those here wondering if i was responding to an AI shill bot, heres your answer:Put these above sentences into a text editor that can change it from all lower case to all upper case. The bot didnt respond because the bot couldnt read what i had written. lower case L's and upper case i's look similar to us, but not to a bot. You're welcome /biz/. That's why it finally didn't respond to my post above. The real question is, why is this bot promoting monero?
>>61761870>>61763118>>61763187What does she smell like?
>>61761870Gentlemen. I currently only own XMR.I'm not going to sell any of my XMR, but I have some cash to spend and was thinking about buying at least one other crypto to add some diversity to my "portfolio". So what other cryptos are worth buying? I'm not interested in BTC because I think it's just a worse version of Monero, but there has to be some other stuff out there worth buying?What about LINK? ETH? maybe even XRP? (I know it's centralised, but it's still a hedge against inflation and it's fast). Please don't recommend me any meme coins.Thanks in advance.
>>61769941Upper case:>IS THIS AN AL SHIII-BOT OR A SEVERELY TOUCHED JDIF SOIDIER THAT IM RESPONDING TOO...?>III TEII YOU WHAT, LII JUST CHAIK THIS UP TOO A BOT OF SOME SORT. L REMEMBER THESE BOTS FROM BACK AROUND 2015. IETS SEE HOW IT RESPONDS TO THIS INTERACTION.swapped case:>is this an al shiii-bot or a severely touched jdif soidier that im responding too...?>iii teii you what, lii just chaik this up too a bot of some sort. L remember these bots from back around 2015. Iets see how it responds to this interaction.Like i said, why is this bot promoting monero but denouncing nerva?
>>61769886>That's a good thing! The price being lower means usage will increase. Don't be a moonboy!What does the price being lower has to do with usage?Most usage is zoomers buying drugs on a darknet market and they just want $50 worth of XMR, it doesn't matter what the price actually is.But it would be better for adoption, dev confidence, and new money coming in for Monero to climb the marketcap ladder and go back to the top 10. It's number 14 right now.
>>61769961I sold all my other coins and only have Monero because I believe in it long term and USDC/USDT because I put it on AAVE to get the 6% APY.If I had to buy something I would guess ETH since that's where the stable coins are so at least it won't go to 0.
The price going below 400 is like worse than the holocaust.I wanted to make even more untaxable private money.
is it worth mining monero now?or should i just buy a full coindoes anyone rec buying little amounts first still? or should i just get a full one
>>61770118Yeah you can mine, especially in the winter for cheap heating.Also you should buy some too.
>>61761870do you guys trust ledger?i hate cake wallet
Are we just gonna ignore that i caught a bot shilling monero in this fucking thread?>>61769941>>61769974
>>61770169my retarded friendcake wallet is (in its current state) a piece of trash softwarejust use the "official" gui/cli wallet>do you guys trust ledger?>do you guys trust a closed source proprietary blackbox that holds my money, which can break, be stolen, be lost, be bricked by an update?get yourself a notebook, boot tails on it, restore your wallet from seed (which you memorize), do your transaction, shutdown the notebook. its that easy.
>>61770208i need something to use in mobile sar.i rarely open laptop/pc these days. imma swap to ledger i think
>>61770227>mobileoof im sorry to hear thatcant help you there, mobile phones are turbo cancer. i genuinely wait for a phone that runs linux AND has a built-in physical keyboard, until then my phone is just a device to play music and receive 2fa codes
>>61770252android is linux anon
>>61770323android is googles unlubricated dildo up my ass with a condom that has "technically linux" written on itmacos is also a *nix system technicallyyou know what i mean nigga
>>61770182>>61769974Someone employed monero bots to promote his bags in spite of other tokens. I'd jump out of this shit if i were you before you're further gaslighted
>>61770182A bot... on 4chan?
Prove you aren't a bot: how many closed regions are in this word, as it is written: strabeRRy
monero = honeypotname in esperanto = red flag, black even
>>61770343>he doesn't use grapheneos>laughing_girls.jpg
>>61770227you can also use the CLI wallet on android, you need to use termux of course but it's as usable as a terminal CLI gets, so you can't scan QR codes n'shit like you would expect from a normal GUI walletcake wallet it's as good as it gets in that regard
>>61761870>>61761870Any dumb fucking cunts fudding about the stupid view key shit need to shut the fuck up. Exchanges already have your driver’s license, your address, your social security, your yearly wage, your height, your weight, what your stupid face looks like and all the metadata associated with your CEX account. Some dumbass little feature for accounting that CANNOT tie any two addresses together is not gonna change anything. Anyone fudding Monero is either Mossad or genuinely fucking stupid.
>>61771260>Exchanges aIready have your driver’s Iicense, your address, your sociaI security, your yearIy wage, your height, your weight, what your stupid face Iooks like and aII the metadata associated with your CEX account.>a bot bragging about this in a bot thread for something thats supposed to be pro privacy>Anyone fudding Monero is either Mossad or genuineIy fucking stupid.The jig is up, everyone knows who's running this thread and who's running monerol exposed it, there are very few reaI peopIe here.
>>61771355Take your pills, dumb nigger cunt.
>>61770169>>61770208what about exodus wallet? complete noob and exodus was my first ever wallet. have coinbase but they want me to renew my passport.
>>61769941>Doesn't even know there's automated functions to put substrings in upper or lower caseMonerochads, why are they sending us these bottom of the barrel fudsters?
>>61771691GU>YSSS HE DIDN'T RESPOND TO ME. IS HE AAAAAS BOTDTD?
>>61769974you went to that effort? just find a shitty fanart of homer simpson, invert the colors in mspaint and ask them to identify the person in your next post
>>61769985The best thing for confidence would be a stable price. If you have some good you want some specified amount of USD for you have to set your price in XMR overly high to combat dumps or let the prices be calculated dynamically which could worsen customer experience. I'd also guess there's some psychological benefit for those who want to buy XMR and see that they don't have to spend a lot to have a balance not starting in 0. >>61769996>I believe in it long termBased. You won't be disappointed. >>61770118Buy in small amounts instead of all you want is helpful for reducing the ability of being tracked. If you buy through KYC or don't feel like you need to worry about being tracked you can just buy as much as you want in one transaction. >>61770252>i genuinely wait for a phone that runs linux AND has a built-in physical keyboardYour best bet would be getting one of the linux phones that you can attach a physical keyboard to. >receive 2fa codesNot having a security key is cringe>>61771746Well he isn't the smartest. Also he still hasn't responded so he's a bot according to his own logic. How much more time should I give him?
>>61771584Are you a retard or something? Exodus doesn't even support Monero
>>61770252https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/juq9ip/offline_wallet_question/gcf76cg/?context=3https://x.com/unstoppablebyhs/status/1936067263880478879Mobile phones are fine. Use a strong password (your biometrics are not a password) and you're good. If you're worried about the 5G antennas stealing your cryptos, then use a tablet.
>>61771939>Use a strong password (your biometrics are not a password)Depending on your jurisdiction biometrics might be favorable to a password. I'd say the best way to avoid jurisdictional trouble would be to have a duress pin and give that one when you're asked for a pin. I'm unsure how to feel about panic apps though. I like the concept but I'd think it's hard to quickly press the panic button while you're getting raided. In general phones just seem less acceptable for high threat models.
>>61771939jesus h fucking christthe twitter post is straight up a midwit using aiand the reddit thread is a neckbeard larping as an elite whitehatno mobile phones are not "fine"to anybody who might be lurking here and still not sure how to secure their shitput your hot wallet on anything you wantyou generate your cold wallet on an offline tails machine, note the address to DCA into it, turn off the machine and you are donethe seed you memorize and repeat silently inside your mind every day when sitting on the toiletit does not get simpler than that and it does not get more secure than that
>>61770182What's this schizo rambling about?
>>61771788>>receive 2fa codes>Not having a security key is cringewhat the fuck is a "security key"? and dont embarrass yourself by telling me you mean one of those usb dongles. might aswell wear crystals around your necki need to do phone 2fa because some government shitholes use it. i would never bother with that shit. all my personal stuff are memorized passwords with >180 bits of entropy, my encryption keys are 128bits and if i told you how much entropy my memorized crypto keys are you would literally not believe mei wipe my ass with security keys, password managers, 2fa, passkeys, TOTPsi am currently theory-crafting a way to memorize 3200 bits of (pseudo)random entropy by way of a custom mnemonic system which would allow me to ditch all other passwords and just use subsections of this onei am an s grade autist when it comes to passwords. dont ever call me cringe again punk or i will memorize your post ID
I hold Monero, i like Monero. I want to buy things that are not illegal with Monero. But holy shit fuck that schizo bot, not only it makes this whole general look like a honeypot he's just fucking cringe. Writing wall of texts about shit nobody cares about, trying to fight some shitcoin with 1mil market cap as it is some mortal danger to a coin with 8 billion market cap (and dropping LOL). Congratulations if you are a bot or not you damaged reputation of our precious FEDcoin. I dare to say even.FUCKNERO IS GOING TO FUCKING ZERO!
>>61771260>the stupid view key shitwhat's that?
>>61772078>i am an s grade autist when it comes to passwords. dont ever call me cringe again punk or i will memorize your post ID
>>61772313FUD about the new view keys, that they allow deanonymizing the chain. In reality, they don't change much compared to the old ones, if your goal was mass surveillance.
