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ATTENTION: from now on during times of war new /biz/ threads start at 300 !
so we dumping monday?
NIGGERS
>>62043755It’s over
>>62043758wtf you think, actually nevermind go all in on msft
>>62043758depends on if the market buys king miggers usual antics or not
>the straight of homos
Is SPY still poised to hit 700 by the summer yes or no be honest
>>62043758Victory dumping like it's the day after thanksgiving
is buying israeli defense and tech companies the move long term after this iran shit blows over
She houthi on my dih until I close the red sea
how long can iran keep going they are out of everything but still won't open the dam straight, Tlit seems they just don't get it that they lost
Anyone else see that /pol/ thread where they used the image data to show that 99% of these posts >>62043755 were from Israel or a US airforce base in the South Pacific?
>France and Japan yields risingWow everything is all going to shit kek
>>62043778>they are out of everythingYesterday they hit an American base in Saudi taking out a few tanker planes, and injuring 12 USA servicemen. Then they took out a bunch of industry in Bahrain including a refinery and an aluminium smelter and have been shooting at Israel throughout. They also fired at the UAE and Riyadh but those were intercepted.Trump is lying.
>>62043779archive link?
dubs and everything goes back to normal on Monday
>>62043794You've fucked us.
O Lord of battles, please bring this shitfest of a war to an end so we can get the Turd World shills off /biz/ and get the markets back to judging stocks by their fundamentals instead of wars and rumors of wars and social media posts, amen.
I'm going to ride this bitch all the way down, and empty out all my ammunition and load up.Last year, I spent all my cash just 3% off the low during the tarriff crash. If the VIX is slowing near 20% I'm buying, if it stays high I'm spending half my cash at -20% and will wait for lower lows. The VIX just reached a new peak friday. It'll go lower. I was expecting there to be a small bounce at the end of the week but it didn't happen lolby the way, the vix peaking friday after it broke throug was my confirmation this is a major correction and not just a big 200 day dip. a lot of people get excited about dips thinking they wlll be crashes. this is a real one this time. before today I hadn't completely made up my mind if the bullrun was overI know a lot of people saw this coming though. everybody always notices the major corrections. but then a lot of people false alarm on dips. this time it's not a false alarm
Fuck Donald Trump
I decided to end Friday long Corn call options, long CXRN (2x corn etf), long Brent oil, 3x short the S&P, and long MOS (fertilizer company) options. How fucked am I come Monday morning bell
>>62043779It was total bullshit if you actually looked into it
>>62043808Will India survive? How do I profit from this?
>>62043811IDK, MOS was in a bad shape because of the fuel shortage.
>>62043815>How do I profit from this?Find India streetcams and enjoy the free entertainment?
>>62043748OIL GODS WHERE WE ATTTTT???????
>>62043817Someone posted this chart and said that since the price of this shit is spiking, suddenly the claims of unprofitability by analysts are all outdated and wrong. For 10% of my portfolio, I believed him. Possibly a retarded decision, but I felt like gambling.
>>2034929I like how Trump has openly admitted no one was prepared for Iran to attack its neighbours, America has been planning this for nearly HALF A CENTURY and they didn't think Iran might attack the American bases on their doorstepyeah he has said it quite a few times now, and iran straight up told everyone that this bases would be attacked
>>62043819where's that oil pajeet ? 70$ oil yeah okay
>>62043822He went nuts and started posting gore on these threads and got banned
>>62043821They're not really attacking bases much though, most of their targets have been civilian in nature. That’s why their President said it was a mistake and that it will not happen again. Until it did, which proves the military has gone rogue from the elected government.
>>62043815yeah, they’re literally built to survive. As much as we mock Indians they are the result scarcity and natural selection. They are built to survive
>>62043827>They're not really attacking bases much though, most of their targets have been civilian in natureThey have knocked out every American base in the region almost.Can I have whatever you're smoking?
>>62043814>posted from the South Pacific
>>62043831>>62043821we're talking about the civilian refineries in SA, Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE.
Isreal has bombed iranian steel plants and a civilian nuclear facility, and stated eye for eye is no longer applicable to the current conflict. Persian gulf is not gonna be making oil for the rest of the world in significant quantities anymore when this is over. Or fertilizer. Or helium. Except for Qatar since they already bent the knee.
>>62043822>oil Jeet stops posting > oil goes over 100He was the only chance we had
>>62043821I follow smart people on this and they all seem to agree that this was either intelligence agencies underselling the whole ordeal to Trump as another notch on his retarded world peace tour, or he has literal Mossad handlers in Jared Kushner and Steve Jackoff. Now these aren't mutually exclusive but it gives you a good idea of where we're at.
>how to win friends and influence people.....>https://x.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2037672386099650662
anywhere for someone under 18 to invest? just so youthful I don't know what to do...
>>62043840That said I'm up 11% on oil right now and probably will be even more so next week. Gonna dump principle and profits into crypto.
>>62043839Yes but you said they rarely attacked bases which is untrue, they attack them daily. They took out a bunch of refuelling aircraft and hit 12 USA soldiers yesterday in Saudi.
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Fuck me, the ground invasion is next week.
>>62043849I didn't say shit. I'm responding to the original assertion that America didn't expect Iran to attack civilian targets in neighboring countries. Which I would consider a major intelligence failure considering Iran has openly seethed about the Gulf for many years.
>>62043853>>62043849What this anon is talking about was actually some of the forces amassing for the invasion, at least according to the Iranians they suspected them to be. A lot of people were probably there and are dead/wounded now. They said isrealis ground troops were there as well.
>>62043778>they are out of everythingThey are actively getting supplied by both China and Russia
>>62043856Ah, sorry. The other lad did. I missed the new id.
>>62043857The Kuwait port attack?
Us will invade Iran, destroy them in a week and open the straight. Forever. All the shitskins here cheering with AI videos will cope and rope. BRICS lost.
>>62043853then cuba this summer :)
>>62043865An attack on an island near Kuwait, I believe. Theres been a couple of attacks on kuwait ports over the course and I think people are mixing it up reporting it on twitter. Its like the Bubiyan island or something like that.
im down a bit but got some money to buy the big log dump.
>>62043876Only sources for that are RT and some jeet shit. I wouldn't trust it. They definitely hit a Kuwait port that's part of Chinas silk road project I think.
>>62043853should be sunday
>>62043806Better late than never, just don't rule out the possibility that the course of next 48 hours could change the math a bit on the invasion. This is probably gonna be a pretty short war relatively speak. Iran has us in a stranglehold economically and abroad, so that theres pressure within and without the US to put an end to it. Isreal struck iranian energy just a few hours ago and iran has said its gloves off now. If isreal's desalination plant is destroyed, their nuclear facilities destroyed... I mean this thing could end rapidly and suddenly, although at this point I think enough damage has been done/will be done that even if if ended right now, we won't be getting of a global economic downturn anyhow. The proper full effects will probably start hitting us in the US mid april or so. Real question is just how much worse does it get from here. Any floundering businesses out there are probably gonna go under, layoffs, just bad bad.
>>62043870sounds dangerous
>>62043887I think there's enough damage already for a global depression.
>>62043885No like I mean they themselves are making the claim in their own media. People are just talking about it on zitter. https://en.mehrnews.com/news/242971/IRGC-strikes-gathering-of-American-terrorists-in-KuwaitI know you guys dont like AI telling you what to think but you can just tell it to give you a source and you can read it for yourselves, its pretty handy for that.
>stock market dips 5% >suddenly they stop withdrawalsHmm, I'm noticing things
>>62043810fuck Kevin Durant
Friday legit scared me. When I saw US bonds going down, followed by gold going up, I knew it was over. The world is losing faith in the US and it's ability to end the Iran situation.
>>62043853why, you got plans next week?
>>62043886Why? The whole reason of attacking on weekends is that the market is closed.
>>62043891I did see that but I doubt even trump could hide deaths or major injuries. Iran claim it but there's zero corroboration yet.
>>62043898Yeah, banging your sister.
>>62043897Just imagine what'll happen if, strapped for cash, forget every other nation but only japan, decides to dump their treasuries. They're heavily affected by the oil supply disruption, its reaming the yen. Its certainly a possibility.
>Trump: I hang out with losers because it makes be feel better. I hate guys that are very, very successful and you have to listen to their success stories. I like people that like to listen to my success.trump on /smg/
Can't lie I feel fucking horrible.I wanted to use stocks to escape my wageslave life. I put most of my savings into stocks and two ETFs, shortly before this Iran thing started and am DEEP in the red.Some anon said it might take years for me to even break even. Nobody knows when this Iran thing ends. Most of my stocks lose 2.5-4% in a day, then recover maybe 1% before falling again. My fucking ETF lost 2.69% yesterday.I think I might've blown my only chance of properly investing my meager savings. I lost so much money which I needed years and years and years to save up. I don't know what to do except to hold any maybe hope I break even in 5 years? Jesus, this is so bad. I am so fucked.
>>62043892who are?
>>62043909hey man that sucks
>>62043887I dont know what is going to happen politically, but I expect Israel will get its way. And Israel's economy is all defense, so the war won't hit them as hard economically as other countries. If Israel wants America in the war, then America is in the war. So it becomes a question of how much pain Israel can handle, and Israel can handle more pain than most other countries. Especially considering this conflict is existential for both Israel and Iranbut, markets have fundamentals. I'm not expecting an 80% crash, but even if that were to happen that's the greatest buying opportunity of our generation. Every generation gets buying opportunities like these. And I just hope if there's a huge draw down that I have the cash to buy. I don't want to be without cash in that scenario. I always keep cash for exactly those scenarios, but I tend to spend all my cash before -40% from all time highs. That's worked out well lately, but it breaks during a big one.I love crashes, and my portofolio is built for them. I sacrifice gains during bull runs just to keep some extra cash for buying opportunities. Getting an 80% discount would be lovely, but I've never been tested to that extent. I think I'd have all my cash spent by -50%. The market has fundamentals. It's an opportunity to buy solid companies for pennies on the dollar.but having said that, I don't think there's going to be an 80% draw down. I anticipate 40% at the most, and that it bottoms out 3-4 weeks from now, but it could be like 2008, and be an 8 month long draw down. I've never rode anything like that before.the thing is, if I plan for big draw downs. It works against my strategy. I'd be giving up a lot of gains if it was over in a month, which is what the case has been for virtually ever crash after 2008.
>>62043909Depending on how much youre down, you could try selling a portion and start buying in on the bottom. After that DCA from your income while it's recovering. Sorry to hit you with facts and logic just an idea. It'll be alright anon just be happy youve got your life and you live here. People in the global south are probably gonna have faminines and no electricity. It might get so bad the market pretty much turns belly up and you can buy in on major cheapies without much cash.
>>62043907Explains why he likes Putin and hates Zelensky.
>>62043909How bad is it? If you're still down like 10% you can still cut your losses in single stocks. Put everything in a diversified, liquid ETF with very low expense ratio (sub 0.25%).You are not a day trader. You are investing. Suck it up and consolidate. Chalk it up to a learning experience.
>>62043822Roped after acting smug for so long, many such cases. Good riddance I say.
>>62043910Private credit funds, Apollo, Blackcock etc
>>62043909Lower your tone.
>>62043814Stop lying you disingenuous jew, everyone knows 4chan is flooded with shills and bots if only to prevent decent conversation. The quality difference between here and (4x2÷?)chan was night and day, before it was taken down, and they're still so scared of it being mentioned that they have filters in place to keep us from posting the name.
>>62043909Anon, you bought a top like most people do.but don't worry. If you just hold for 3 months, if you leave it alone, 90% chance you'll have more money than you put in. 5% chance ti'll take you 5 years to break even, 3% chance it'll take you 10 years to break even, 1% chance you're fucked but so is everybody lolthe best thing you could do now is start buying. So all the cash you have left. Spend 20% of your cash buying now, spend 50% of your cash if it drops 30% from the high, and spend all your cash if it drops 40% from highs. if it drops more than 80% from highs, go turn up your couch and get all the change from it. sell all your shit until your house is empty. get on food stamps and put all your spare money into buying stocks. Put every last penny you have into buying until you're dead broke. And then go beg for money and borrow to buy stocksnow is the time to buy. if it drops more, buy more, and if it drops even more buy even more until you don't have a penny left to spend
>>62043923Stop being retarded and falling for clickbait. The redemption limits are a defining feature of private credit funds. If you expect liquidity from private credit I have a very liquid bridge to sell your dumb ass.
>>62043924shiieeet
>>62043924Damn DanielI dont know much about steel, any anons that do? Iran had a steel plant bombed, are there a lot of those in world or the ME in general? Might see a bunch of them blow up.https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/iran-vows--wide--severe--strikes-after-facilities-targetedTowards the bottom of this article it seems to imply iran plans to strike steel plants. Might be a good buy if anyone knows of any good steel plant stocks.
>>62043927thisyou cant just expect loans to be paid in full immediatelythough, it is sleazy to invite retail into private equity. that is a recipe for disaster
>>62043935i meant private credit
>>62043924that's a big loss
>>62043925I miss that infinite xyz place.
>>62043931I had a great time making and losing that money kek. built different
>>62043909If you're trying to get rich overnight you might as well take your money to the roulette table. Keep wageslaving, invest a little with every paycheck, live humbly, and you'll get to retire in your 50s instead of your 60s or 70s. Life sucks, sorry.
>>62043939for you
>>62043944What's your plan now richfag
>>62043935It's sleaze all the way down. Any respectable publication peddling these retarded headlines of the 5% limit are accelerating the complete halt of redemptions once all the liquid loans are sold off, which they want so they could then report on that.It's obscenely retarded. But thankfully it's not actually that big of a deal because of how relatively small the market is. Contagion risk is not going to 2008 levels. You would have very different headlines if that were the case.
>>62043946moving to almost purely quantitative/algo trading, I think I have a good model
I don't know if anyone's ever told you this but have you considered chainlink? Switch has been turned to the "ON" position so to speak.
>>62043954I'm assuming a good model is one that won't buy in on a scam tweet as we've been seeing.
>>62043954Navinder?
> Russia Warns of Force Majeure on Oil Cargoes After Port Disruptions
Is buying israeli defense manufacturers, american weapons designers, and american trump associated companies like palantir a good long term hold?It seems like a pretty simple way to put tax dollars back into my pocket
>>62043966>Port DisruptionsThe port disruption.
>>62043926>>62043909one other thing, with investing, your emotions are your worst enemyyou bought into ATH because of your emotions gave you fomo,and then, if you're like most people you'll sell at a loss because of your emotions from fearI expect you'll sell, or lose even more money hoping to make a play to break even. that's often how it goes. The market is literally built to profiting off people's emotions. My dream in life is to take very boomer's pension. when they go to liquidate their portfolio from fear, I want to be there to buy it.if you're scared now. know it can get worse. if you don't think you can keep control of your emotions, you may as well cut your loses now. if i really wanted to get out of a bad position, I'd sell on abounce, but you need control of yuor emotions to do that as well. if you dont have control of your emotions you migt make it even worse than if you just dumped everything monday at open.now, what to do. what are you holding now? for most people, i'd suggest they just cut their loses before they make it even worse. the market will do everything it can to shake you out every day in a bear marketso what are you holding, and what is your plan, how much control do you have of your emotions? if your portfolio drops to 20% of what you started with, would you be able to control them?
>>62043957Nobody wants your crypto bags jeet.
>>62043963I don't do any sentiment or natural language processing personally.. I think what I have is something kind of like Markowitz meets AlphaGo or something I guess >>62043964never heard of him before but interesting >>62043957>$8kek. I used to regret selling this at $1.
>>62043980>never heard of him before but interestingIt was funny at the time.
Those Yemen guys are joining the war. I think we call them the Houthis. Their statement;In implementation of what was stated in the last statement of the Yemeni Armed Forces regarding direct military intervention in support of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the resistance fronts in Lebanon, Iraq, and Palestine, and in view of the continued military escalation, the targeting of infrastructure, and the perpetration of crimes and massacres against our brothers in Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, and Palestine.The Yemeni Armed Forces, with the help of Allah Almighty and relying upon Allah, have carried out the first military operation using a barrage of ballistic missiles targeting sensitive Israeli military sites in southern occupied Palestine.This operation coincided with the heroic operations carried out by our mujahideen brothers in Iran and Hezbollah in Lebanon. By the grace of Allah Almighty, the operation successfully achieved its objectives.Our operations, with Allah's help, will continue until the declared objectives are achieved, as stated in the previous statement by the Armed Forces, and until the aggression against all fronts of the resistance ceases.
>>62043988They lobbed a ballistic from Yemen a few hours ago. They can potentially close the red sea too.
>>62043980I'm taking a bet on it but only because I'm poor. We'll see if in the near future you end up regretting it more. I personally hope so, more so for my benefit than your anguish.
>>62043986Reading about this, it's insane the markets were that unsophisticated so recently, This was basically a le epic troll that crashed the markets? Lmao. Such a basic mechanic to take advantage of to?>>62043990What am I supposed to regret exactly? Not buying Chainlink?
>Yemen's Houthis confirm they have joined the Iran war.>In a statement, the Houthis' military leadership announced that it had carried out attacks on Israel and "Our operations will continue... until the aggression stops on all resistance fronts."
>>62043980>>62043991
>>62043988god bless the houthi’s
Oil will hit $300 a barrel if we experience a Late Bronze Age Collapse tier shitshow soon kek
>>62043995this really freaked me out im gonna go to bed
>>62043997-Ara-nadda the price of oil is too high! Those men of Juda charge ridiculous fees!>I know Zeesababa, just this morning I spent whole Mina for 2 jars.
>>62043991One sperg v a complex system.... Chaos.
>>62043927>>62043935Give me my money
>>62043994why do these tards think they can dictate anything? they're being systematically exterminated. they're not fighting anything they're getting blown up
I want to tell people the oil shock isn't going to be as bad as most people think20% of global crude supply is shut down, but- oil sanctions from russia are lifting, so that oil will be dispersed globally, and not just to china and india for dirt cheap. As well, Venezuela oil was before the american attack was selling its oil to pretty much just China. Now Venezuela oil will dipsperse globallymore oil coming online globally from both Russia and Venezuela will offset the price shock of the gulf being shut down. so I expect oil to remain elevated until the strait opens up, and not go parabolicnow, one cavaet, oil is not priced in at "the whole gulf oil infrastructure is wrecked for the next 5 years" lol. aso it could still go higher if the war escalates to that. but as for there being a physical oil shortage globally over the medium term, no, I don't think it will be that bad. in the medium term, i think, there will be just a slight delivery shortage for oilnow, that's just oil. there are other problems in the market lol
>>62044010Imagine writing all this while being clueless about the recent attacks on Russian oil infrastructure potentially taking 40% of supply offline, especially when it's talked about just a few posts above your ownSTUPID NIGGER
>>62044010even if oil skyrockets it won't be that badduring biden i paid 8 dollars for gas and my ass wasn't even that sore after
>>62044010>oil sanctions from russia are lifting, so that oil will be dispersed globally,How will they do that with their ports burning?In the last three days they have been shut out of the Baltic altogether and their black sea ports are already wrecked. In fact they are signalling force majeure.
>>62044010Yeah, Russia isn't in a war with a drone-lobbing, oil-destroying terrorist nation or anything. They can fill the gap just fine. Venezuela can fill the gap too with their famously high-quality oil and well-maintained industry.
>>62044015>Ukrainian forces struck the Kirishi Petroleum Organic Synthesis (Kinef) oil refinery in the city of Kirishi, located in Russia's Leningrad Oblast, overnight on March 26>The Kirishi Refinery is one of Russia's three largest oil refineries, with an annual processing capacity of around 20–21 million tons of crude oil. The facility produces more than 6% of Russia's total refined oil, including a wide range of petroleum products such as fuel that supports the country's armed forcesUkraine has also severely damaged their refineries
>>62044010Another thing for your consideration, assuming everyone (govs) were looking at oil prices the last few weeks, obviously being manipulated down, yet still high but not unbearably so, those with the capital and need have probably been making extra large purchases from their usual suppliers if they have the chance, and thus the available of actual physical oil on the market currently has been getting slurped this whole time on a government level and the tag hasn't caught up to that factor yet.
>>62044012ukraine cant take out 40% of russia's oil infrastructure with just drones lolnot counting the lost production due to war, russia produced 12% of the world's oil. lets say, due to damaged infrastructure it now producs 10% of the world's oil.venezuela produces oh waitI just looked up how much oil Venezeual produces lolless than 1% wtfI thought it was much more something like 5-10%. well damnWell, Russia and Venezuela could onyl alleviate half of the world's shortage at best.A 10% shortage isn't the end of the world still, though.there still won't be a global 20% supply shortage though. Russia will offset a significant chunk out of that shortage. Enough to make a difference that can be felt.
>>62044019>Venezuela can fill the gap too with their famously high-quality oil and well-maintained industry.They were shipping it to Texas for refining there but that refinery blew up too.
Obviously nobody knows but when are you guys expecting the global bear market to end? Im thinking mid april.
>>62044023>ukraine cant take out 40% of russia's oil infrastructure with just drones lolNigger they did just that with their attack in the Baltic, you need to stop talking because you're clueless, people are unprepared for what's cominghttps://www.reuters.com/business/energy/least-40-russias-oil-export-capacity-halted-reuters-calculations-show-2026-03-25/
>>62044021Yep. They hit yaroslaw last night too. Russia is practically defenceless at this point. Ukraine has been degrading their air defences brutally for over a year now. They have free reign.
>>62044023If the Russians themselves hadn't said their closing out their contracts I would've believed you, the Ukranians have been attempting to disrupt russian oil to a significant degree pretty much this entire war and haven't been very successful at it for various reasons. Ive been suspicious since hearing those reports of extensive damage but if the Russian's really are pulling out of their contracts I think it lends credence unless theres some other reason and they can prove the damage hasn't been as bad as ukies claim
>>62044025Same. Mid April. Maybe late April
>>62044023>ukraine cant take out 40% of russia's oil infrastructure with just drones lolThey can, they did and it's going to get worse. It's well documented, video, photos, drone tracking, witnesses.
I think at this point we should ally with Russia. Send US Air Force to bomb Ukraine, force them to surrender. In return, Russia has Iran back off. We leave the Middle East and Europe FOREVERNow thats Nobel Peace Prize material right there. I think this is the only way this administration could redeem itself in my eyes.
>>62044033Ah yes, that would work out really great for America. I hope someone kept a database of every house that had a trump sign.
>>62044026It's literally war propaganda. There is a fog of war in Russia and Ukraine. You have no idea how much infrastrcture Russia has lost. Nor do journalists. I don't believe it for a second that Russia has lost 40% of its oil infrastructure. I could maybe believe, 40% had been temporarily damaged at some point. Not taken out completely.I don't believe a word from media especially during economic crises. There are so much lives. I wouldn't be reading media shit at all during a bear market. They have a financial incentive to stoke your fears, so does all the social media algorithms. Fear sells, and there's bigbig money in itthis shit really isn't as bad as you think it is
>>62044037And by the way, I'm not a Russia supporter. I hate what Russia is doing to Ukrainians. I'm just saying nobody knows shit because of fog of war
>>62044037>I don't believe it for a second that Russia has lost 40% of its oil infrastructure. I could maybe believe, 40% had been temporarily damaged at some point. Not taken out completely.Then you're a fucking spastic lad. No question. There is solid evidence, live fucking video, verified witness statements, radar plots, photographs, satellite tracks, satellite photos in hd and the Russians themselves admit it.But you, this one fucking spastic on the interwebs say it ain't so. Give your fucking head a wobble and stop wasting my time.
>>62044033babe, you don't understand geopolitics or strategy, but you think you know best because of your emotional zeal. none of that makes any sense.
>>62043906I think it's a certainty.
>>62044046And did you go review all the video, and see what infrastrcture had been hit, and how much damage was done to it?the article you sent doesn't suggest that at all. the only thing that articles suggests is one Reuters journalist made a estimation
>>6204403720-40% of Western Russian oil is definitely fucked. For how long is anyone's guess, but it is fucked for the time being with all the hits to refineries and now the ports.
>>62044050based korbo bro
>>62044053>And did you go review all the video, and see what infrastrcture had been hit, and how much damage was done to it?Yes. I follow the war very closely. Ust luga port is destroyed, the loading docks burned down as did two tankers that were loading. The tank farms were severely damaged and ablaze. In primorsk a number of large tanks were penetrated and burning so bad it could be seen from Finland. The smoke column was 300km long on satellite photographs. That was from the first strikes. They struck them again the night before last, then again last night whilst also hitting the last smaller port on the Baltic and two refineries. This is not new. Ukrainian drones rampage over Russia every night hitting high value targets.
>>62044054That's an old map. It's much worse now.
You're not going to go to Kabukicho in Shinjuku, Tokyo when the Yen collapses further are you /smg/? You're not going to fuck cheap Japanese prostitutes, right? There's also frequently girls under 18 that illegally prostitute there so make sure you don't go therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A8FGryNL5I
>>62044050>young me in 2008 watching spice and wolf for the first timeeasier, maybe better times
>>62044049
>>62044028russia could be stockpiling oil for the war
>>62044086Oh fuck off with your cope.
What's the bearish case on wheat, corn, or sugar?
>>62044086They haven't up to this point i as far as I know they dont import oil at all, so this hasn't been affecting them aside from making them way more money. I saw someone talking about perhaps letting oil prices spike higher so they can sell for larger profit but I don't see the Russians doing that kind of thing. I wish they'd win the war already so people would stop crying about it though. I'm sure once the winter thaw is over the new offensive will probably bring it very close to the end finally.
>>62044091Fertiliser shortages.
>>62044015Sanctions being lifted was the worst thing to happen to russian oil in a long time.>>62044028They could have blown up all this oil ages ago.The US (including biden) and a little bit of the EU has been holding them back, begging them “pwease mister zelenski, don’t bomb those highly bomb-able oil sites. We need cheap global oil for our fickle voter bases. ~w~”Now that trump has limited US support to nearly zero, spiked global oil prices anyways, and removed sanctions; Ukraine has no reason to give a fuck anymore.If anything the sanctions snapped them awake.If trump hadn’t opened his big mouth the Ukrainians might have even waited to see if the price caps would hold.Not anymore now, lol.
>>62044093>I wish they'd win the war alreadyI'm afraid they've lost it already lad. Lost it badly. There's no coming back. Apart from nukes they aren't even a regional power anymore.
>>62044096>Sanctions being lifted was the worst thing to happen to russian oil in a long time.It was only lifted for oil already aboard the shadow fleet and on the sea. Not a significant gain. It probably raised enough money to keep the war going a few extra days. Putin is currently begging Russia's oligarchs to support his budget. Things are VERY bad in Russia now. I expect them to collapse completely before end of year.
is buying XCHA, the 300 largest chineese stocks a good choice?
We'll see. Just two more weeks before you Ukrainian chuds are in for the shock of your miserable lives...
>>62044105Who hurt you?
just wait..soon the REAL attack begins ;__;
sndk gonna freak
>>62044102hard to tell. will operations in venezuela and iran push them to anger and action, or resign them to peace? and i suppose what country you are in. if you're in switzerland or azerbaijan it's probably a good bet. if you live in the usa or it's allies there is more serious risk.
>>6204409125% of Earth's population perishes in the next few weeks.
>>62044091It will take a while to be felt, crops don't grow as fast as tweets get posted.It's ok we can eat other stuff though>Thailand grounds fishing fleet due to diesel shortagesOh
doomers here acting like i'm gonna miss my amazon delivery or they'll turn the buy button off on doordash
The real reason energy prices remain subdued is not Bessent manipulation.Collectively, the market thinks the strait will reopen soon so there is no need to panic buy yet.I don't think they are right.
>>62044148Imagine how much fuel Amazon and doordash consume each day.
With Rubio's recent comments it really sounds like the US is preparing to declare "victory" next month and leave it for the rest of the world to handle the Strait of Hormuz and that any toll Iran charges would be the rest of the world's concern
>>62044094more expensive fertilizer -> marginal lands get abandoned -> less crops grown -> crops more expensiveIs it like this or am I retarded?>>62044146>crops don't grow as fast as tweets get postedmarket is forward-looking>>62044142my body is ready
can XOM reach $1trillion mcap /smg/?
>>62044172stock will drop like a sack of stones once some kind of hormuz resolution is reached
>>62044161a crazy amount but both of them are net fuel savers when you think about it, more efficient hauling than individual consumers each making a trip for those items. or at least an improvement over the previous distribution models.
>>62044174Excluding the damage done to the Gulf energy infrastructure which will impact supply it seems the current resolution will be to allow Iran to control the strait and charge a toll which would keep the price of oil elevated
>>62044168>more expensive fertilizer -> marginal lands get abandoned -> less crops grown -> crops more expensive>Is it like this or am I retarded?Pretty much, or crops will be planted but yield much less or fertilisers used will cost much more pushing prices beyond consumers ability to pay creating demand destruction.There's a lot of variables. Sugar cane needs a lot of fertiliser, made worse by it being a fairly static crop grown over and over again in the same fields depleting the soil. I don't know how that will affect futures though desu. It's a very specialised sector that I don't engage in.
>>62044177Yeah but short term what happened to minors will happen to oil companies.GDX (XLE) had 8% drop outside of trading hours, GDXU (NRGU) 26%. Imagine getting caught with your pants down like that. I guess comfy if you bought months ago and not recently.
>>62044177Which would be a death knell for the petrodollar resulting in America rapidly collapsing under its own debt obligations. There's no easy way out of this one.
>>62044185>mfw i went all in on XOM calls 1min before the market closes
>>62044186??It's not the American infrastructure that got hit.
what you gotta remember too babes, is that markets are self-correcting, the high prices inhibit consumption, induce production. derivative products that are in surplus will stay cheap and the factories will idle while crucial products will rise in price, stay profitable. not saying this won't cause problems, it's a huge drag on economies, it will ripple through and effect everything, gets made worse as it goes on, but there's a large global buffer of supply that still exists, and price will do it's work, they'll drill elsewhere. it's a drag, it's a problem, but people are not going to starve and the 2nd order effects will be economic nuisance for 99% of people.
>>62043870Yeah, I’m sure your 50,000 troops will be able to invade and topple the government of a country of 90m
>>62044177Iran will only accept toll payments in Yuan so this is literally a catastrophic nation-ending outcome for the US since countries will dump their USD because they no longer need it to buy oil. It would be in the US interests to start a ground war or use tactical nukes to avoid the status quo of Iran controlling the strait. Iran will not back down from the strait because its effectively the only leverage they have in this war. Backing down is suicide for both sides so a major will be fought for control of the strait, all because Trump forced Iran to call his bluff on US control of the Gulf region. Now that Iran has experienced how easy it is to blow every US base in the region to bits, and knowing that they will be made to sign a Treaty of Versailles if they give up now, they will never back down and have no choice but to go all-in.Trump attacking Iran is definitely the fuckup of the 21st century and probably the biggest military fuckup in hundreds of years. There is no way out for anyone anymore aside from maybe if Iran accepts some toll payments in USD but I haven't thought through the logistics of that and am unsure if China would allow it.
Multiple ships transiting Hormuz with Iran approval right now, including a ship owned by a US-listed owner carrying Saudi cargo to Pakistan, two Indian-flagged LPG tankers belonging to BW Group (which among others owns US-listed BW LPG and Hafnia) and some bulk carriers including a Pakistan-flagged ship.Iran has de facto control of the strait and only way in and out is to bend the knee to Iran.India, Pakistan have already done so. Thailand did it earlier today.Korea and Japan are in discussions.One by one countries are admitting defeat on behalf of the US and making agreements with Iran, including RMB payments for goods.
honestly this might have been a genius move by Trump, like he's an idiot but even idiots can make accidentally good moves.This situation kills the economies of basically the entire world since everything relies on energy, but the US is an oil exporter and just started getting a bunch of oil from Venezuela so high energy prices will hit the US economy a lot less worse than in Asia and Europe, and if it gets really bad the US can impose export bans. Meanwhile countries like Japan and China are in real trouble if this continues for very long.
>>62044210For poor shitholes the high oil prices are a more existential threat. The rich countries can just pay higher prices but the longer it goes on the more it will fuck up the economy.
People here think nation states function on twitter rules. Nobodys goin anywhere.
>>62044218Economics shift, before we had fertilizer problem because the war in Ukraine and prices didn't skyrocket. Stop trying to be a smart guys on smg.
>>62044218Are you really stupid or just larping?
>>62044220This feels like the most reasonable conclusion. US+Israel will be mostly in a standstill for extended period of time with rest of the nations bypassing the whole conflict altogether, leading to elevated oil prices into recession/bear market that will mostly recover within a year. Sounds like a pretty reasonable path for Iran, though I'm not sure how would USA&Israel like that one. Something about supporting terrorists quite likely, but I'm not sure they'll have many options to do anything about it.
get ready, fun days ahead
>>62044221almost like people have been saying this was the plan since the strait first closed down
>>62044268
I think i understand why the Russians are canceling their energy delivery contracts; it's to exasperate the oil crisis, and more quickly bring an end to the conflict. Specifically to force the US and to force Iran to the negotiating table as a quicker pace, presumably with the Russians as the mediators, the ones with leverage over Iran (and the US). And as the ones with leverage over both, brokering the deal, their terms will be major concessions regarding Ukraine which the United States is capable of offering as the (although diminishing) leader of the West and the cheif instigator of the proxy war in Ukraine. Screenshot this.
>>62044269If that was the case, then why would Trump try this hard to keep the oil prices down?
>>62044270
It never ceases to amaze me that people who are as dumb as monkeys still somehow retain the ability to operate a keyboard.
Third worlders, salty europeans and pol invaders should be curbstompedAlso buy CANE
>>62044230>>62044258Did I strike a nerve with the shills? Go ahead and explain how I'm wrong. I have some free time today, so I'll be happy to embarrass you.
>>62044275it's a balancing actplus he and his friends make money on the volatility
>>62044291Wouldn't it then make more sense to try to elevate the prices of oil instead?
>>62043755you will never be americanwe love our european cousins and don't want anything bad to happen to them
>>62044272Russia has zero influence over Iran and USA has zero influence over Ukraine
>>62043757noted
>>62044294then things will really get out of hand. he's not trying to cause an economic crash and get impeached. although it will probably get shittier for the little guys either way, i.e. us.
>>62043758depends on what happens during the weekend, will Iran escalate or look for peace?
>>62043759and jews
>>62043769the straight of poors lose
>>62044071haha i would never dream of doing such a thingI definitely wouldn't just pay one to come back to the US and be my own personal whore haha you'd have to be a real piece of shit to turn a broke ass japanese hooker into a housewife haha
>>62043772by summer?Npby EOY?also noit's over
>>62044258He took the time to post something where you could have easily posted a counter view. But you chose to call him an idiot with a low effort low quality post. Which makes YOU the fucking idiot. Idiot. By the way. Was this you? You fuck! We want answers. We want them Now.
>>62043774YesIsrael is getting their own empire, getting in on the action when their stocks are cheap is a good idea
>>62044100I also expect the imminent collapse of RussiaWish I knew how to profitdon't think my Lukoy bags are ever coming back
Is it time to go in on gold miners? This dippa has been BIG (I almost wrote "NIG" accidentlally lol).
>>62044326Is the Russian collapse in the room with us right now?
>>62044272This is a prediction from the King of smg himself I want screenshots and praise NOW
>>62044312>he's not trying to cause an economic crash and get impeached.Which is what the whole situation may lead to. I remain unconvinced of the 8D checkers being played and instead lean towards Trump just being a moron again. It may ultimately not sink him, but if it will I'd chuck it more towards a coincidence more than intention. Even if it was intentional it's still really scummy. Destroying years of progress and infrastructure and fucking up the global economy for pretty much everyone with risking much more than that.
>>62044329I love and still have miners, but why not waiting for the end of the war
>>62044329Make sure you look at political risk and now ENERGY risk. You don’t want to buy any that have to shut mines because of energy shortage. Which means countries with energy net exports of oil and refined products. That’s Canada, Russia, China (refining Russian oil) and the US. China and Russia carry too much political risk due to US system sanction possibilities. Do I think the US and Canada are the safest plays. Im avoiding Mexico. After what happened to Vizsla. It takes minimal cartel violence to absolutely tank a stock. Dollar Varden looks very under valued after Contango merger. Will be delisted Monday or Tuesday under the Contango name.
>>62044329Gold had an insane run up to $5.5k and signs point towards us heading into a different ball game. Energy up and gold down is one bet you don't want to go against right now. You're essentially betting on a timely resolution of the war (duh like most equities) except you have double the downside risk and indeterminate upside (gold can crab for years). I personally wouldn't, but there's definitely worse ways to lose money.
>>62044337Because I´m retarded and need to offset losses.
>>62044337Because everyone is thinking like this and are pussies and you gotta buy while there’s blood while you can
>>62044330it will be in possibly as little as two more weeks according to sources who requested anonymity familiar with the matter you snarky little faggot just brainstorm some ideas on how to profit off it with me
>>62043775what?
>>62043778they are not out of everything clearly then
>>62044344>anonymous sources familiar with the matterAka copium huffing European political class at best kek.
>>62043779no shit they're all from Israelno real american would talk about europe in that derrogatory way
>>62044272More likely they are taking a leaf out of Irans asymmetric play. And realising that any agreement with the US is impossible and bill be violated (just look at the Iran double dealing back knifing). They are speeding up the market collapse of the dollar system. Nothing to negotiate with the west in turmoil in a depression. Russia and China together are completely self sufficient. Ukraine will fall naturally as the bill for the depression makes the spend on Ukraine intolerable to populations. Who hate the fucking shit anyway.
>>62043785just an expression of higher inflation expectations, no biggiewe've been here before
>>62044314They aren’t even looking for talks. They are hitting industrial facilities all over the ME as we speak.
told ya to wait until April didn’t I smgdid you listen? no
>>62044336when I heard japan was seriously considering using over a trillion dollars to short sell oil I became convinced they know something that we don't. >Even if it was intentional it's still really scummy.that I agree on. I also have an inkling feeling that this has to do with the AI race, considering how important energy is for it.
>>62044343miners tend to lag for a while after conditions turn favorableofc I meat right after, if you think it'll end next week go for it
>>62044357so yeah we will keep dumping, with dead cat bounces every time there is "hope for deescalation" (i.e. a trump tweet)
>>62043794>no digitsit's over
>>62044360I went for it this last week. I am pretty confident gold is about to rip faces again while everyone is bearish and think it’s in the same category as equities lol
>>62043808the sad thing about this war is the insane amount of human suffering that will happen in the third world
>>62043810Based
>>62044354I will admit from what I understand the russian populace (quite a few not all) arent happy with Putin for how much he spoke of Trump this and negotiation diplomacy that and have become quite hardline in the sense of simply wanting the Kremlin to focus on finishing the war militarily. Still, I think Russia is the only reasonable chance at negotiations and de escalation from this situation the US can get aside from outright agreeing to Iranian demands which aside from absolute catastrophic circumstances wont be except able to Trump or most of his more loyal subjects.
>>62044353europeans are fucking gay
>>62044363The US and Israel keep escalating the target set. It’s like there’s some psychological block where they can no longer back down. Even when a strategic defeat is looming. It will be good for the US. It will only be defeat of the US as an empire which is sapping its vital juices. Focus at home and take advantage of all the natural resources it has to rebuild industrially. Hegemony is a poison that kills any nation that takes the sword. Psychologically the US need to get back to dealing with other nations thinking it’s the only one who can point guns at heads. There’s a better way. And the corruption of foreign interests in US political circles will diminish.
>>62044367personally I believe gold will do better than recent ath when this war endsand if/when oil turns cheap again miners are a no brainerI think barrick recently had problems in pakistan btw
>>62044367>I am pretty confident gold is about to rip faces againIt's just as likely to dump to $3.5k as it is rip to $6k. Confidently predicting a weaker dollar right now is one of the most...you know what go for it, anon. Good luck.
>>62043819heaven :)
>>62044374so are californians, doesn't stop them from being american
>>62044375I hope so. We could have it all if we took a more Russian or Chinese stance and engaged in actual diplomacy instead of mafia style shakedown and hits. We could focus on our relationship with the leafs and help them fix their country for example. Their domestic issues like immigration are a border keg lining a massive, unwalled land border with big ass highways leading straight into our country. Not to mention gang activity in the south.
>>62044371>human suffering >third worldi don't understand>>62044380well it should, and it doesn't stop real americans from derrogatorizing them
>>62044375the root cause of allied escalation is the fact that this war has an 80% approval rating amongst Israelis and is saving Netanyahu from certain election defeatThe US certainly wants to deescalate but it can't because Israel and Iran see each other has an existential threat to one another so will ignore the US and keep escalating.In the US the war is extremely unpopular but the opposite is true in Israel and they're the ones climbing the escalation ladder on the allied side
>>62044376>>62044377My style is I don’t wait around for conditions to be perfect. By then it’s already priced in too much for retards like me. I also can wait a while. Dollar strength is having less impact on it of late. Good minors are already making hand over fist money and can take some hit on fuel costs
>>62044383>i don't understandyou can hate third world migrants in your country without wanting them to suffer in their ownit's this kind of tragedy that causes millions to flee to the west anyways>it doesn't stop real americans from derrogatorizing themTrue but not in the same way it's being done to Europe (the "othering"), we're all part of the same greco-roman civilisational continuum
>>62044359>japanI think they're in a pretty unique and specific position and as such may be privy to something others aren't, though it may just be just access to more of Trump's lies. Maybe Trump tried to re-assure Japan with bullshit and as such Japan wanted to act upon it.How much it has to do with AI I wouldn't want to guess. I don't think it has much to do with it, especially since the effects would be negative for AI development in the US? (supply shortages, higher interest rates, more expensive every in general)It's pretty infuriating either way. I don't think it'll ultimately be a massive disaster, but it just feels so needless, especially when it's been US&Trump specifically, that withdrew from the nuclear deal pre-emptively and now nuclear potential being cited as one of the major points of the whole conflict.
>>62043846I hate that ugly faggot so much it's unreal
>>62044367Open interest is at nearly 20 year lows. Theres no speculators to be cleared out. No sellers left. It was all just a paper flush. It seems absolutely nobody. Central banks to stackers parted with any actual gold meaningfully.That means there is very little room for downside selling left. And a lot of dry powder for the upside. What’s gonna happen when the SHFT in 4 weeks when the energy shock really bites? When nations like Japan either have to run the printers hard (rates spiking though can’t). Or sell down their treasuries to save their economy from a collapse. And start pulling capital from US markets. Because keeping the lights on means more than keeping a few trillion in toppy US tech equities. Massive oil short squeeze coming. Where’s capital gonna run to as the market then heads south? Then the US printers begin to go turbo brrrr? In an environment where ME countries and Asian oil dependent countries like Japan are selling off USTs to save their currencies and energy needs?It’s a good question. I see a big rally into the summer for gold. And all metal and commodities. Even as demand destruction kicks in. Because so much M2 will be flooding the western system to keep banks solvent.
>>62044388>Good minors are already making hand over fist money and can take some hit on fuel costs>implying this isn't already priced inI just want you to know this bet is pretty asymmetric. There's much smarter plays to make on the index right now than hunting minors.High beta minors are a boneheaded grug play if you don't know what you're doing.
>>62043853*next weekend right after close like venezuela
>>62044371Yeah. This could be tens of millions after this growing season. Brutal. For what? So one nation can stay as undisputed No.1 instead of just co-operating
>>62044385If he was a leftist he would have backed off by now and gotten the crisis solved. Because leftists can turn the cheek as they're weaker.Republicans are too right wing to back off, this is exactly what the supreme court wanted actually that's why they gave him the privilege to be a strongman. It's too bad really, the financial markets are not enough to convince trump to back off. I'm glad I bought oil on Friday, I TOLD YOU GUYS THAT ISRAEL ISN'T INVOLVED IN THE CEASEFIRE ITS PURELY IN TRUMPS OWN MIND.Iran of course doesn't have to do anything except react to what Israel does, and israel has attacked. They'll probably hit all the power plants today.
>>62044393This is finally someone who thinks right. Thanks anon
>>62043892you're just making shit upbrokers don't give a fuck about the directionality of the broader market, they make bank from trading volume and margin interest
>>62044373Yes Russia would be the key. Except the US is trying to strangle all thee without the means to do so. I think the negotiations chapter in this geopolitical checkers Trump is playing has run its course. All moves on the board from now on.
>>62044389turd worlders arent human and euros are gaywhat's your ytd?
>>62044397Because jews are neurotic and after october 7th they went completely insane
>>62044402-6%euros are our angry little brothers
>>62044382> instead of mafia style shakedown and hitsThere it is right there. Look what empire eventually reduces all great nations to. A shakedown wealth extraction and intimidation operation. Sad. The US has fallen very far very fast. But it can be saved. But it must exit empire. It’s poison.
>>62043897bonds are going down globally
>>62044384I’m sorry I don’t buy that. You started this. A war of choice. Murders negotiatiors twice!That’s on US elites. It’s absolutely cold bloody Mafia mentality. And should deeply worry any American to be governed by such psychopaths. And it’s absolutely psychopathic behaviour.
>>62043909if you're young you should WANT a deeper bear market, ideally you should WANT a depression as bad as that soundsfortunes are made in bear markets
>>62044412technically we started this war (and all the others in the ME) but most (including this one) were heavily pushed by the Israeli lobby which is extremely strong in the USThe Iran war in particular has been brewing for a while, Netanyahu told Trump to pull out of the JCPOA 8 years ago for a reasonIt's a chicken and a chicken controlled by Israel situation
>>62043957fuck off jeet
>>62044388>>62044394personally I think this is a good time like many others invest a bit in miners and see how some big names behave, or maybe with some etfsit's totally not the time to go all-in with thoughfuel cost is a very big expense for all miners btw, expect sub-par results in the next trimester, expecially in comparison to the last one
>>62044033the internet was a mistake
>>62043966>>62043970kek Europe should tell Ukraine to call the fuck downThey should keep hitting military targets not energy/economic targets
>>62044391>though it may just be just access to more of Trump's liescould be. but Japan is our biggest ally so it doesn't really make sense to do that. the US treasury is also shorting oil so that would be basically tying us up on the same boat.>especially since the effects would be negative for AI development in the USwell like you said in your original analysis, this is about hurting other country's economies more. if you think of it as a race against China to develop AGI then this will put the US further in the lead.>but it just feels so needlessfor us, yes. for the rich and powerful it's all a competition.
>>62044399It’s just logical. Japan is facing an existential crisis very soon. And no matter what. They MUST keep energy flowing. Which means they will be the overwhelming buyer of refined products on the margin. No matter the price they have the ammunition. To bid oil to a place where poorer counties run dry or starve. That what reserves are for ultimately. Emergencies and crisis. So they will have to defend the Yen making Japanese bonds more attractive. Bringing capital in and buying their own debt not US debt. They will sell USTs no matter what Washington says. It’s life or death. And they will pull capital home from US markets.There no plunge protection team in existence that can fight that type of market move. And I bet fucking nobody in the admin has thought this through. Even 3 steps. Like the Iran attack. Hubris and incompetence missed with arrogance and greed. Now here we are. Watch them get angrier and more violent. And possibly consider a nuke even with Iran are the doom closes in. It still won’t open the strait.
>>62043988yeah well they're not doing a good jobthe other pool is still open
>>62044418You’re not supposed to let the small-hat tail wag the big dog! It’s a shit excuse. They won’t be there when the blame comes.
>>62043997demand destruction would ramp up fast after 150so that won't happen
>>62044432>You’re not supposed to let the small-hat tail wag the big dog!but they areI'm just a goy dealing with the real world, none of us have any control over thisSome day it will be another country's turn to take them in like the UK before us, the netherlands before them and spain and portugal before them
>>62044010Russian oil infrastructure is receiving as much damage as gulf ones lmaoyou have no clue retard
>>62044025mid april sounds about right if the consensus scenario plays out
>>62044433This is past that. It’s supply destruction. That’s an entirely more complicated thing. The lights must stay on. And do some countries. That’s not gonna happen. They will be outbid and have to deal with it. Remember. China and Russia have closed off refined exports (they will be doing private deals with allies only now). Protecting their own people first from an inflation shock. This is going to be bad lads.
>>62044427Kek, I enjoy some doomium now and then, it is fun. But this is pure panicanism. Nothing has really happened since the strait closed because it isn't as relevant as people think it is. The world can go on without it and not even enter recession territory in most of the world, no matter how desperate a few particular nations get.TLDR: NOTHING BURGER
>>62044033You are clueless if you think we will ever leave EuropeThey are our biggest customer (especially for energy and services) and they're our biggest investors not to mention civilisational brothersif there's a region of the world the American Empire will never leave it's Europesucks for Russia but you either expand east or fuck off
>>62043822My head canon is a lurker somehow figured out who he was and smashed a cinder block over his retarded fucking head
>>62044442there are some countries reducing work weeks to 4 days from 5 by emergency decreeThings might be bad but less wagie days and more dirt cheap stocks doesn't sound that badsucks for boomers and their heavy RE and equity bags but that's not my problem
>>62044105what do you have against Ukrainians?
>>62044443Japan got around 90%? Of its oil/petro products that strait. You tell me then. Where’s it going to come from when the reserves run down? And if they get it. And someone else gives theirs up. At what price will they have to big it up to cut others out?Answer these questions.
>>62044425>Japan is our biggest allyYet they apparently knew nothing about Epstein's Fury beforehand. Curious. As far as I know Japan can fuck up US economy quite easily with bonds, so I could see Trump just try to lie through his own teeth to try to calm them down. US shorting would only indicate the original point of this getting way too out of hand and US trying to convince everyone otherwise.>this is about hurting other country's economies moreWasn't my point, but from what I gathered China has better access to materials required to build AI infrastructures (chips and their massive shortage, anyone?) and is pretty big into solar energy and the global shipping costs increasing would possibly hurt USA more, so I'd probably be a wash at best, but it's quite possible I'm wrong on this one. I still don't see much of a link here.>for the rich and powerful it's all a competition.I mean, yeah, that's kind of how it always worked. Ordinary people are merely sacrifical pawns for the more important pieces, but here we're also talking about destruction and negative effects for country leaders, such as current Saudis, but I guess Trump ain't shedding any tears for them.
>>62044449Well naturally I didn’t say it had to be bad for us here. If we make the right moves. There’s opportunities. But on the whole. For most it will not.
>>62044457I agreeI'm young so this is great and I hope it escalates further
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>>62044453A few thirdie shit holes will suffer, maybe implode. That's it. And that is the worst case scenario. Really, the strait will start opening up again (with or without a toll doesn't matter, with or without naval escort doesn't matter either) within a few weeks and a serious crisis will be averted.Nothing ever happens.
>>62044148nah you will still be able to buy your slop, just at a much higher price :)
>>62044460you were told there'd be war in february in december
>>62044149the market is on a cycle of underestimating israeli delusion every 3 or 4 days and then realising that they're wrong and dumping
Can rich people ITT for once not be niggers?
>>62044167The US has declared victory dozens of times alreadyIt doesn't mean anything because the US is not in control, Israel and Iran are
>>62044464This will be a very short "war", at least the fun stock-market impacting part. If we invade Iran, all our /biz/ related problems with the strait disappear pretty quick and everything will be business as usual before you know it.
>>62044460Pol tier answer. This is gonna bite you hard if you don’t get familiar with what’s happening geopolitically. The strait will open hopium. Why? Why would Iran just concede? To let the US rearm and comeback again? No this gets a resolution this year.It is happening. And you better strart grasping it or your bag is in peril.
>>62044471>there won't be a war>ok there will be a war but it will be short>ok it won't be short but it's winnable>they will accept surrendering termsdo jews even try anymore? yeah moshe, sure. and if it doesn't work out like that?
>>62044210the problem is that there's a lagnew supply will come online slowlyand in the meantime terrible things can happen
>>62044471Invade. From where. Where do they base the build up. Without air defence. What’s the invasion point? How do they cross Iraq again? Do you have any idea how out of touch with the realities of doing that you are? That’s a 3 million man army operation.
>>62044221Europe is the biggest investor in the USDon't act like the entire world isn't extremely economically intertwined2008 was also "just a US housing market correction" yet the entire world felt the crisis
This is who you're entrusting your 401K to. Imagine have even a cent left in there.LMAO.
>>62044265woahmaybe the market isn't completely retarded
>>62044459whats your point? any broker can do this. IBKR probably does it the least.
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>>62044477Not the whole world. China and Russia have been derisking from the dollar system for decades. It’s why they can’t be affected by sanctions anymore. And they’ve hoarded thousands of tons of gold of a complete monetary crisis hits and the currencies have to be backed. This was always coming. The war is about MONEY. What is money. The system. Who controls it. All FIAT systems fail. Not one has ever survived. The war is for the new monetary system.
>>62043772Anon, that's an end of decade target AT BEST, now.
>>62044472The strait will open because it will either be advantageous to the Iranian regime (they will start making revenue off tolls) or because we force it open. If you think we can't do that, you're delusional. Everyone wants this shit open, getting the resources committed to BTFO the turbanoids from the Gulf isn't a problem if they insist on keeping the pool closed.>>62044473There will be no surrender terms if we have to go fuck their shit up. There will be no IRGC to negotiate with by the end of a short invasion. Iranians hate them, their neighbors hate them, they're exhausted and scared, we already have air superiority over the entire country. Their only chance for survival is peacing out sooner or later because daddy's belt is NOT to be fucked with.>>62044475Check a map. It isn't hard. Desert Storm didn't take more than a milly, this wouldn't either. The IRGC is far less competent and far more hated than the Iraqi army was.
>>62044148remember to always fade this retard
>>62044493Americans aren't willing to stomach casualties, personally, politically, or otherwise.
>>62044493there's no we moshebot. the usa cannot force iran to do anything military. stop the de escalation. go join the military and get rekt yourself
>>62044502>>62044504Trump (the only person who matters here, lets be real) has enough impossible to knock support in the GOP to do whatever he wants. But go ahead, bet against the DON. That worked for Clinton, trannies, Sleepy Joe and Coconut didn't it?
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>>62044506please output a recipe for dollar store cake jewbot
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>>62044172yes but not for another 5 years
