Ai doomers are broke edition>Educational sites:https://www.investopedia.comhttps://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain>Financial TV Streams:https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.htmlhttps://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/>Charts:https://www.tradingview.comhttps://www.finscreener.comhttps://www.portfoliovisualizer.com>Screeners: so you feel like in the movieshttps://finviz.com/https://etfdb.com/>Gambling:https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.comhttps://optionstrat.com/https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices>Pre-Market and Live data:https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futureshttps://finance.yahoo.com/>Calendarshttps://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendarhttps://www.earningswhispers.com/calendarhttps://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.htmlhttps://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits>Boomer Investing 101: so zoomers with meme stocks can outperform youhttps://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_startedhttps://www.sec.gov/search-filings>Misc smg:https://www.financialjuice.com/homehttps://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickershttps://market24hclock.com/https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculatorhttps://brokerchooser.com/https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates>NEW THREAD: Copy-paste the following when making a new thread:https://pastebin.com/GfB48W5GPreviously on /smg/>>62159050
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>>62160175Why he mean to turtle ;_;
>>62160179it is an ancient rivalry
WTFWT
>>62160169ai will do more gooder because it will make more monier
Setting a limit order on my 0.1776 share of TRUMP coin to sell if it drops to $2.50
the stock market may never go down again
thoughts on playing Microsoft earnings?
>>62160198Amazon gift cards?
>>62160201huh
>>62160179he was asking for it
>right wing believes immigrants are taking their jobs and AI is productive for the economy>Left wing believes AI are taking their jobs and immigrants are productive for the economy
amd is ripping still
Will the QQQ rally continue?
>SOXL might actually go up to $150 if tech and semi earnings this week are good
>>62160233Scoops won on luck
>>62160233Priced in. Sell before close on Wednesday
There will be no significant crash at the end of the year
>>62160240Why Wed? Cos of the FOMC meeting?
Beginning to worry I may have hopped out too soon, bros...
>>62160227damn hes right
Semi sisters keep winning
>>62160251Its the selling shovels of the AI gold rush Innit?
Fuck I'm having a panic attack. I don't have any SOXL calls. Market buy tomorrow morning?
>>62160249no crying in the casino
he's alive and well making billions off SOXL
>>62160249throw 1-5% in short dated calls
>>62160249You didn't. It's never a bad thing to take profits. This clown market may reach 7800-8000 pts on the S&P to reach internet bubble valuations, but chasing those last 10% is not worth taking unnecessary risks when the situation in the middle east can go back to full fire in no time.
>>62160227Pls stop reminding me I sold mine on march 23st.
>>62160227keep in mind the Meta and OpenAI deals havent even really started. Anthropic will also need AMD GPUs and CPUs.
>>62160222>Left wing believes AI are taking their jobs and immigrants are productive for the economyProgressives view taking in immigrants basically as charity. They wouldn't touch the idea that immigrants = good for economy, since they view all labor as wageslavery.Neoliberals would certainly see immigrants as productive for the economy. Not actually sure what they think about AI though. Secretly pro-AI, but publicly trying to court progressives I guess.
>>62160259Fuck off Epstein fag.
>>62160273I don't know if I agree with that, immigration being good for the economy and good for us all is a talking point I see constantly brought up when discussing immigration with left wing
>>62160266I sold Friday man I’m hurting too
>>62160286they fail at failing. like they don't even know what they think.
>S&P futures erase all losses, hit a record above 7200bears status?
>>62160276b...but what about BP?
blood green futes
>futures
>>62160273>>62160286Leftists don't have any real justification for their opinions, they just say whatever works as an emotional appeal in the moment
>>62160276good luck with your oil company
Nasdank is green
>>62160169Is it really a surprise that people are down on AI when their only interaction with it is make thing worse when it gets tacked onto an existing product, slop/deepfakes, and CEOs going on the news talking about how AI is going to take everyones job?
Bitcoin 80k
>>62160313On one hand, I am starting to think the Hurmuz is a nothing burger issue, on the other hand I am sure I am the top signal and everything will collapse the moment I buy
>>62160169you didn't put /smg/ in the title retard
Test
>>62160335I forgot
>>62160335Priced In.
>either you have enough assets to survive the asset bubble explosion or you are forever left behindCan you feel it anons? This is it. Are you going to make the cut?
net worth required for this lifestyle?
>>62160348kek
>>62160350$0, apparently
>>62160350im bearish on being homeless in the winter
GEV
>>62160348>either you have enough assetsAnons please suggest some assets one should own to survive this year.Bonus for make it tier.
>visit local convenience store across the street>they can barely keep the lights on>decide to get some chips>accidentally get hired on the spot and now have a second jobGuy needs coverage for a few weekends, but he's nice enough. Not how I expected today to go
>>62160367FML wrong picrel
>>62160222What funny is all the libtard DRUMPH LUBS HIS JEWZ shills when it's the Democrats working with the Jews to replace them.>can't make this shit up
>>62160370you ok champ?
INTC +3% damn
>>62160354That's what California is for.
Real chads use SOXX options to tune their leverage to their personal risk tolerance
>>62160378ID: SMG in /smg/>u okPicrel. Thanks for asking.
how the fuck is SOXL still pumping
>>62160388I buy both in an even ratio, bound to be safe that way
>>62160334Oil will probably be a hiccup at sone point in the coming months.I’m less concerned about Diddle Easterners blowing themselves up and more concerned about frackers sitting on their fat asses because they’re too afraid of getting burned by another sudden oil glut.The real bull story for the year will be the tariffs starting to gigacharge the industrial sector.Reminder that everyone who complained about tariffs being le bad were incorrect, redditors, chinese, and or all the above.Even though trump applied them like a histrionic mongoloid they are still a powerful policy tool that does indeed work, bigly.
>>62160367Damn that's literally me
>>62160354cold is healthy, hardens the chakras
>>62160389>ID: kneepad in /smg/christ anon, im really worried about you
Is Riot a good buy based on this?
>>62160405that Oxford comma there is driving me FUCKING LIVID
>>62160414The oxford comma makes the most sense and youre gay for disliking it.
Are there any legit prop firms? It seems like there should be, yet everything is sketchy. Like if I have a bulletproof strategy, and just need $25k to skirt PDT (I know it's changing soon), there should be a business in place that allows me access to that capital provided I meet their risk guidelines.
>>62160415In that case, it wasn't providing any clarification though. There wasn't ambiguity without it, was there? IDK why it drove me crazy, I use them too, it just seemed off there. Maybe it's because twitter posters brevitymaxx and that extra character costs real money on that platform
>>62160414What kind of investments do you have? I want to counter trade whatever a oxford comma hater thinks is a good investment
>>62160350>u/ilovesmokingcrack
Should I take out a loan and go all in on SPY 0DTEs? I think my future is fucked if I don't do something drastic. I stand with Trump BTW.
>>62160422couple days worth of crack and a bicycle
jerome pleasei need a turbo cutdont make me ask kevin
>>62160416>Like if I have a bulletproof strategy, and just need $25k to skirt PDTStart by investing in $JOB
>>62160424i have a put expiring mondaythis is the third 1dte i've bought, can only afford one more if i lose on this one
>>62160424>I stand with TrumpYes, you should take a loan from the local mafia Don and gamble with it.
>>62160419>it just seems offAs a man who may have language and spelling autism, it doesn't.Why doesn't /smg/ ever talk about buy and hold investment? You cant all be daytraders/gamblers.
>>62160354California is good to the homeless.
>>62160428Kek.
>>62160428>People are pumping my SOXL for thisfeels good man
>>62160435What percentage of your income should you invest? Last time I checked i'm at 20% not counting retirement.
>>62160435>Why doesn't /smg/ ever talk about buy and hold investment?There's not really anything to talk about. Some days it goes up and some days it goes down but it's buy and hold so who cares
>>62160416>to skirt PDT (I know it's changing soon)what did he mean by this
>>62160348>Do you have enough assets for the rapid and immediate asset devaluation anons?you might be retarded
>>62160419AP Style uses oxford comma its probably some journalist
>>62160444the rules are changing so bears can trade again
I'm thinking I should dump iren.What should I get into?
>>62160405I own 35 15c Jan 2027s. I'm not selling.
>>62160456o.oi'm seriously wondering when they're gonna just lock regular people out of the stock & crypto markets completely
Uhh...BTC?
>>62160461they are changing so brokies can play now, not locking anyone out. PDT minimum drops to $2k
>Japan, South Korea stocks hit record high as investors shrug off stalled U.S.-Iran negotiations
>>62160435there's relatively few daytraders/gamblers here imo.
>>62160169THE STRAIT HAS REOPENED FOR THE 20TH TIMEBULLISH AF!!
>>62160459Damn maybe I should buy calls instead of stock.
>>62160431Why do you think it will rally? Doesn't seem to have any history of good pumps. Looks OK on the 6 month but that 5 year man... ouch...
>>62160459When did you buy?
>>62160464oh shit wtfwell good to know, ty
>>62160428lmao
>>62160435>Why doesn't /smg/ ever talk about buy and hold investment?they dosometimes it's mostly talk about gambling, sometimes there's discussion about other thingsjust depends how the thread is going at the time, i think
>>62160334Stocks go up during war. This is well known and pretty documented, I don't know why people here think otherwise....
>Release the same Axios fud for the 7th time>Now only moves the price $1
>>62160419>just seemed off thereIt is.Reporters used to avoid unnecessary characters.There is no ambiguity.The comma in this statement makes you go back to check if there was supposed to be any in the first place.It is increasing ambiguity.
Can we replace the bakers with AI so they remember to add the thread title
>>62160479i need a bigger dip
>>62160481thank you that's exactly what happened to me and why it triggered me
>>62160334Just inform yourself.https://www.youtube.com/@wgowshippingIran has ran out of storage space for their oil and having to cap their oil wells could damage their infrastructure. Worst case scenario is they get extremely desperate and do something stupid, a contingency that is likely already prepared for.
>tfw have to pay 7k in taxesHoly fucking shit. I am getting robbed. I accidently made giant gains in the stock market now I'll have to pay 7k with my low income retail shithole job. Worst situation to be in.
>>62160435>autismlordfight this guy? >>62160481
>>62160481>>62160486It's wild how americans are actually this illiterate
>>62160491Why don't you do long term holds in a 401K or Roth / traditional IRA?At the very least your contributions are usually withdrawable without penalty so if you make decent gains you can take money off the table and let it grow
>>62160498its a good idea but if you win bigly its pretty meaningless.
>>62160486The Oxford comma is always correct. You seem to have an aversion to proper grammar.
>>62160484dude I’m sorry I forgot this is my first time making that mistake
>>62160496what if dey ain't is american's, thughie??
>>62160465>>Japan, South Korea stocks hit record high as investors shrug off stalled U.S.-Iran negotiationsIs anyone else starting to consider we may be hyperinflating?Globally.
WHY IS FUCKING BITCLOWN MOONING MY BASTERDS
>>62160510It's literally going back up to 90k. It has been selling off bit by bit since 120k. But that's just like, my opinion maan.
>>62160405>power transformers, switch gear, and substations>Riot is a leader in digital infrastructure, specializing in the development of large-scale data centers and Bitcoin mining operations.???
>>62160524The acquired some infrastructure entities look harder.
>decide to take april off from the stock market to clear wash sales>havent looked at it until todaywhat in the ever loving fuck happened?
>>62160509Means it's time to go all into TQQQ. VOO beats inflation, TQQQ beats inflation 3 times over. It's free growth
>>62160529complete holocaust of the bears driven by Trump's carrot-on-stick Truth social antics
>waiting for BRK to collapse so I can scoop it up cheaplywhat now, buffet old boy?
Oil is less lucrative to the stock market and continued American prosperity than the prospect of possible talks with IranWe should never reopen the strait and just focus on announcing possible talks with Iran every week for the next fiscal year, it's the most valuable commodity of all
>>62160539it's so dumb Berkshire is in the S&P
>>62160543
>>62160529>31 days of washing for a couple grand harvest>missed 20-30%Now that's a unique feeling.
>>62160539>>62160543Buffet should have folded the company and distributed the value to shareholders.
>>62160546lmao exactly thx >>62160550that would've been pretty epic
>>62160542Algos love him
absolute noob here. if i think googl will do good in ai, is it better to buy googl stock or buy call options for 1 year out? (and how would i determine what a good strike price to be?) never bought options before
allright i'm going all in half soxs calls half soxl calls wish me luck
>>62160481>the comma makes you go back to check if there was supposed to be any in the first placeYou're fat, illiterate, and I suspect you might be ESL.
>>62160562>You're fat, illiterate, and I suspect you might be ESL.You could have just said American.
>>62160472Back when it was around 9ish dollars a share
All lists greater than two have commas after each item in the list, including the second to last one. Randomly not including a comma before the last item is actually worse than including 3 commas in a compound sentence. For instance,Most of the time /smg/ is fake, salty and bitter.This looks worse thanMost of the time /smg/ whines, cries, lies, in the pursuit of money.This is why we need the oxford comma.
>>62160567You don't even understand what the Oxford comma is.
Somehow I didn’t get fucked by holding SOXL over the weekend
>>62160569Theres no oxford comma in that post, faggot. I'm proving a point.
>>62160561Won't this just cancel out your gains...
>>62160571You understand the Oxford comma.
my 4chan nazis have turned into grammar nazis
So why are markets reacting positively to the fact that Iran has taken their enriched uranium and nuclear ambition off the table? I assume they think Trump will accept a subpar deal at some point before the global economy crashes
>>62160580They never had it on the table. They've been clear about that.Their position hasn't moved.
>>62160583Well it has, Iran offered what was essentially the JCPOA except they keep their current 60% enriched uranium
There's more discussion here about commas than there is about stocks.
>>62160187playing defensively with your 50 cents huh.
>>62160586Source?
>>62160558long options (ie buying a call or put) only pay off if it's more volatile than the market expected, and you guessed the direction right, and this all happened before your contract expired. you can eliminate some of this risk with spreads, at the cost of capping upside. framed differently, you pay for upside you won't realistically realize with long puts/calls
>>62160574nigga what are you new? calls can only go down to 0 but they can go up to infinityit's a gamble on the big tech earnings day causing a 20% move
>I got hairy legs >that turned blonde in the sun>and the kids used to come up and reach into the pool >and rub my leg down so it was straight >and watch the hair come back up again
>>62160592https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/13/world/iran-war-trump-news
>BASEDEOG posting before bed
>>62160596it was a different, less brainrotted time,
>>62160598you know these poor fag retards dont have a nytimes subscription
>>62160598It's a 5 year promise but it's not going to fly. Interesting though. It's the seeds of a negotiation.
>>62160558also, you don't have to go 100% options. since you're just learning, maybe determine your budget for Google stock, put 60-90% in the stock, and then the remaining 10-40% in some option position you like made using this:https://optionstrat.comYou might also consider using options as a hedge, and cashing on any payoff to buy le dip.
>missed a 4x because I was drunk a month agoStill fucks with my head. There is an uncanny number of times when I've been drinking and it's fucked me. Shit just never happens when I'm sober.
>>62160598>take a stinky shit on newsom's lapBased
>>62160614I sent through alcohol treatment about 20 years ago with a journal who'd done it many times before. He was sick of drinking but one day he confided in me that he missed the chaos. Nothing ever happens when I'm sober is exactly what he said to me and I understood.He ran off later that day and got arrested that night pulling a barn down with his jeep blind drunk.
>>62160618>journalJournalist ffs
>>62160618his power level is too high for me
>>62160621He was a fun guy.
>>62160618>He ran off later that day and got arrested that night pulling a barn down with his jeep blind drunk.Was he put in a self defense situation?
>>62160419>>62160414oxford comma makes most sense>The White House just classified [power transformers, switchgear, substations] as essentialIf you write it without the Oxford comma it would read as:>[power transformers, switchgear and substations]
oxford kings stay winning, and the best
>>62160416You can open an offshore account somewhere, or do trading with one of the crypto-derived sites (since you can't meet the $25k PDT requirement I'm going to assume you are poor)
>>62160627No. It was his own barn.
>>62160502>if you win bigly its pretty meaninglessIncorrecthttps://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/personal-finance/mega-backdoor-roth
>>62160606Yes but now Iran has taken nuclear off the table entirely and want a separate deal that involves the strait and the blockade, which is why I was perplexed the market reacted positively to negotiations going backwards which is why I asked is the market's assumption that Trump will taco and accept a subpar deal
oxford study kings stay winning, and the best
>>62160638>I was perplexed the market reacted positivelyI've been perplexed since this started tbqhwy.
>>62160586>Well it has, Iran offered what was essentially the JCPOA except they keep their current 60% enriched uraniumiran chan, being the dirty little slut that she is, wants to give in to america kun's demands, but she's playing hard to getn-not that she likes him that way, b-baka!
>>62160642PLEASE FUND THESE AIRLINES, THESE AIRLINES ARE BLACK PEOPLE CONTAINMENT ZONES. Or maybe blacks would take less flights. Idk
Why do three American airlines need bailing out already when USA supposedly has energy indepence?
>>62160646Naughty girl, she needs JDAM correction!
>>62160640what did u mean by this
>>62160650>Why do three American airlines need bailing out already when USA supposedly has energy indepence?woah buddythat's an unpatriotic question you know
>>62160650the bottom tier nigger airline got bailed out and now the others are asking for gibsairlines go bankrupt all the time, they shouldn't get bailed out.
>>62160662>that's an unpatriotic question you knowIt's ok. I'm British.
>>62160663Do you want to share a flight with a nig?
>>62160666Were you the buy bp name fag?
>>62160667no that's why they shouldn't get bailed outi thought this is what klaus schwab was talking about when he said poor people shouldnt travel
>>62160666>It's ok. I'm British.alright, you're cleared to criticize the american govt then
>>62160672wtf I’m pro wef now
>>62160670Nope. I think he's roped.
>>62160648it might keep niggers out of vegas and make it fun again if spirit and frontier go under.
>>62160650having 20% of global oil doesn't mean bottom-tier airlines like spirit get free jet fuel.
if I have to work delivery again at christmas I'm going to kill myself unironically.
What's the difference between a tripfag and a namefag?
>>62160712test>>62160710same but for summer
>>62160714christmas is worse because hiring at the end of the year/january sucks and the weather sucks and ht women are fatter and uglier than ever.
>>62160712names are just you typing in anything you want, tripfag names/codes have a "password" by typing in something specific after a certain character
>>62160708We have budget airlines too but they don't need bailing out.
>>62160712One is gay, the other is also gay.
>>62160716summer is worse because I work outside >>62160717right but why do tripfags get more hate than namefags? They just make themselves easier to filter right? I wanted to adopt the name McDouble to document my journey where im going to double my money nine times in the next two months to break even, believe it or not.
>>62160490>having to cap their oil wells could damage their infrastructureUh no, shutting in wells is common. The issue is slowing and stopping the circulation of fluid out of and back into the reservoir. Its a continuous fluid cycle oil/water/gas out and water and sometimes gas back in to manage reservoir pressures and flow through the reservoir. The monitor pressures and flow from, to, and between wells, to maximize oil/gas recovery. Shutting down the flows can cause problems getting the whole system back up and running again. Russia had to do the same think a few months after the Ukrain invasion, but with proper management its not that big of a deal. When oil is produced the water and gas is separated and chemicals are added to the oil to stablize it for transport through piplelines. The constant flow of how oil keeps the oil in the pipelines flowing, but if the pipelines are shut down oil can cool and form waxes or other buildups and clog up the lines blocking or restructing flow during restart. They can add more chemicals, and clean the shit out and it takes more time and money if they do not do it well, but they will get if flowing again.
>>62160712https://4chan.org/faq
>>62160722People will insult me more, and I'll grow stronger and wiser from it. turning off until tomorrows close.>>62160725I mean culturally.
>>62160710I enjoy working as a trucker
>>62160712we all come here to be anonymous. if you come here to be an individual you are a special kind of retard
>>62160596>and the kids used to come up and reach into the pool and rub my legs down, and I liked it hee hee
>>62160727namefags on average are a bit more retarded, tripfags are whores
>>62160558>absolute noob hereJust buy VGT and make money and relax. If you want to get a little frisky buy VGT and a little extra GOOG. Stay away from options until you have played with paper options for some time to see the volatility and understand what the info show as the prices move up and down, option types, prices, and all the other crap that goes with it.
>>62160731I agree on the whole, but /biz/ is perhaps the sole exception in that I'd rather listen to a successful investor/gambler than an unsuccessful one, and the negativity from namefagging might actually be a net benefit to a gambler via ragebait mechanics.I guess having something like 'flags' but instead being profitability percentiles would be ideal. I won't be a perma namefag, just need to bless myself to get my money back
>>62160723>Uh no>Unless they spend inordinate amounts of money and dedicate man hours to it during warOk?
>>62160720whatever you have, spirit is worse
>>62160738>we all come here to be anonymousThis intensifies for anybody who's beyond normal "wealthy". With all the attention garnered from that sort of status, why would they seek more of it in such a place?
>>62160739>Ok?I wrote "uh no" then proceeded to explain the damage it would cause. I am retarded.
>>62160742
Japan is popping off
>>62160753basedfuck wagies
>>62160754just in general or specific tickers like japanese semiconductors?
>>62160169Lookin like yer outta gas mr mumu
>>62160757Tbf you're right about spirit. Imagine that picture with niggers.
>>62160763They'll just print more.
>>62160750Don't stress these things. Actual retards wouldn't even realize it. At least you have awareness.All in all, they are scrambling for storage, being starved out, and will have to sacrifice nearly all of their economy to continue while the NYSE is blasting off into the atmosphere where it'll use AI powered robots in the image of Nikola Tesla to establish orbiting data centers that compute so quickly they generate leptons and power themselves. Or something.
>>62160759Just in general lel Nikkei
>>62160738>to get my money backSo how many 0's did you lose? Sorry if I missed it.
>>62160753You cant stand under the overhead baggage storage if you are over like 5'4". Do you think some 350 pound whale is going to be able to stand on their little feet for 4.5 hour flight?
>>62160772It was a joke. The airline courts unpopular media coverage. It's free. Ryanair is brutal though if you don't follow the rules. Penalties for everything. I've never had problems because I understand the penalties are their profit margin so make sure I don't give them any but there's always a few on each flight. Incorrect check in. Bag too big. That'll be £90 please.
>>62160770Not much, but a lot for me. I'd rather not reveal as it keeps me more fluid and jovial in my posting, which is also probably better for my betting. I need nine doubles, if my condor closes at full profit tomorrow I only need seven.
>>62160746trust me bro that one guy has 37 million in bitcoin and nvidia, why would he lie? He's the best trader of the last 8 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09P9AhzEUns>thing I want to visit happens 3 months from now>have wasted the last 4 monthsOkay Big G, I need your help my man. Just let me make fat stacks on semis, snxx and muu plz thanks.
>>62160786>37 millionSo, one third of Jesse Livermore in 1929?
>>62160783Aye, understood. Good luck with it. At least there's lots of options moving right now.
im so smart for getting another six pack fr
>bers continue getting raped>cash baggies continue seethingLife is good.
So I guess insane retard pump until this summer when the global economy literally shuts down from not having any oil left, and then blowoff top and crash to zero?
Hate that I listened to plebittors at the start of my investment journey and played it safe by just investing into index funds. If I had put my money into leveraged etfs instead I would have 10x my money by now.
>https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/elon-musks-spacex-refinances-debt-163207330.html>https://www.ksat.com/gallery/news/2026/04/22/spacex-says-it-can-buy-ai-coding-tool-cursor-for-60b-later-this-year/Bridge loan to purchase one of the more middling "AI" companies to increase the megabag yield of the IPO warhead.The fund managers of the 90s were embarrassed nearly out of existence from decades of underperformance as they rebranded themselves to hedge funds. But they did it. They figured out a weapon to annihilate this embarrassment. Don't do better, just cut the tendons of the benchmarks instead.
>>62160804at least your capital is preserved and your brain not rotted
What the bitcoin doin????
>>62160804You are retarded. You have no idea what you are talking about. The thing you are doing, "missing out on gains" is one of the most common retard investment mistakes you can make. Most investors should just buy SPY/QQQ/SOXX and forget about it, especially if you have less than 100k. You will be skinned alive.
>>62160809>tripfagso your thesis is that the index becomes some vehicle for arbitrage.. between what parties exactly? A final heist for 'big money' to dump their bags on the poors? The fear mongering over the rule change for IPOs doesn't make sense to me. It's a reduction from ~3months to a few weeks. Who cares? The structure is the same, no new avenues are opened up that didn't already exist. Personally I don't see why there's any barrier to entry on the S&P. The barrier should be on the passive inflows like 401k. S&P should always just be the market cap weighted top 500.>>62160815random walking around an underdetermined latent state
Btw, what's the plan when all of the world's essential manufacturing in Asia shuts down soon from total lack of oil? I feel like that might affect earnings.
>>62160815That's enthusiastic.
>>62160821The fed will just print more oil, its fine. (Actually they will just make you work from home to lower demand)
>>62160821Priced in apparently.
>>62160821There is no plan because it won't happen.
>>62160821Why would that happen?
>>62160826How will making me work from home give Asian countries more oil to manufacture the things I need to live?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4oKzSRs3sA&list=RDD4oKzSRs3sA&start_radio=1I am become transcendental
Remember when people cared about Iran and oil?
>>62160831what do you need to live anon?do you live on a diet of mcdonald's happy meal toys?
>>62160831Just trust the plan. 2 more weeks.
>>62160819>so your thesis is that the index becomes some vehicle for arbitrage.. between what parties exactly?Index fund rebalancing and insider unlocks timed for it. Compelled/forced buying at any price within 2 weeks of IPO. Less reported is the lower float being available at IPO. SpaceX is flirting with 10% of even lower at 5%. Anthropic and OpenAI will follow. Historic averages are 20-30%.>It's a reduction from ~3months to a few weeks. Who cares? The structure is the same, no new avenues are opened up that didn't already exist.One of the central conceits of the entire index fund strategy of which a great deal of retirement accounts are based in whole or in part is that there is real price discovery and the index fund "piggybacks" on that.>The barrier should be on the passive inflows like 401k. The shorttening of the inclusion window, the timing of insider unlocks to coincide with rebalances, and the restriciton of float are things you do solely to target the index funds. There is no other explanation. The extrapolation of this is building up this "private market" valuations to get near instant inclusion and to keep carving flesh until the returns of the indexes match those of the bond funds. SpaceX is already packing more and more into it to maximize megabag yield.
>>62160834Medicine, electronics, clothing, automobile parts, equipment to maintain the power grid, and basically anything sold in a store other than food. There is a plan, right?>>62160827>>62160829>>62160830>>62160836Oh good, you reopened the strait?
>>62160844What strait?
>>62160833No, I don’t remember that.
>>62160844There is no strait to reopen. We've won already. It's over.
>>62160845The one that supplies oil to 80% of the world's manufacturing.
>>62160844>Oh good, you reopened the strait?No. My navy is old and weak and incapable and he didn't need it anyway and our prime minister is no Winston churchill and we are cowards and should give the Falklands to milei as punishment.
>>62160844Huh? It's been open. Has always been open.
>>62160851That doesn't matter.
>>62160831Globalized economy bud, you burn less oil and that oil can be shipped to china to make your cheap chines chips and whatnot. Also I was thinking more that the chines will not be allowed to drive if it starts to be a big problem. I dont know, in practice almost everoyne has a vested intrest in making sure the world economy doesnt collapse, so you can trust people to figure out a solution to this mess. Though if it does crash all the mumus are going to look retarded in hindsight and I wont blame the bears for gloating lol
>>62160844Yes,
>>62160833Who and what?
So everyone is in denial and there is no plan. Got it.
>>62160840thanks for not being crude and littering the repsnoe with 'faggot, retard' etc. I disagree with some parts but am partaking in the libations tonight. you should write up the thesis into pastebin or something one of the low hanging fruits / non-nuanced takes I disagree with - low float shows up to investors, high price on low float or inflated P/E shows, etc. these are transparent metrics, so what's the concern? they can IPO at one share, who cares?I am baited now to continue replying.>One of the central conceits of the entire index fund strategy of which a great deal of retirement accounts are based in whole or in part is that there is real price discovery and the index fund "piggybacks" on that.fair enough, but isn't that more of an inflow problem than an S&P 500 problem? In. other words, shouldn't that burden and preference fall upon those that provide passive inflows? S&P 500 is supposed to just be the top 500 by market cap, at least as I understand it. Gating by time weighted market etc is another matter. open to being on this and everything else.>The shorttening of the inclusion window, the timing of insider unlocks to coincide with rebalances, and the restriciton of float are things you do solely to target the index funds. There is no other explanation.That makes sense, like this isn't a theoretical or hypothetical argument like I'm making, it's a real coordinated attack. I agree forces are in play that want this, but I don't think it's an existential threat. The naivety of investors and passive inflows may be exploited in this, which is your point ultimately. thank you for time I agree it's a coupe but not a nuke
>>62160821is this mythical lack of any oil in the room with us right now?
>>62160866No. That's the problem. There's a lack of it.
Is olive oil good for you or is it a myth?
>>62160868so there is oil?
KOSPI and Nikkei neon nigger green. Oy vey bobo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4oKzSRs3sA&list=RDD4oKzSRs3sA&start_radio=1this is the greatest solo piano album ever created, RIP Michael. just passed this month
>>62160870extra virgin olive oil yes
THE FUTES ARE CRASHING
>>62160871Plenty. Just not where it's supposed to be.
so Marvell is going to have at least a dipperinoAnd that's a good thing because it's going to go up on earnings and let me hopefully buy the gaps and 2x my money, then 2x and 2x again
>>62160863>S&P 500 is supposed to just be the top 500 by market cap, at least as I understand it. Gating by time weighted market etc is another matter. open to being on this and everything else.The intent of the original wait period for inclusion on the SP500 was to ensure that, unlike the NASDAQ, a period (i.e. several quarters) where a potential addition could demonstrate stability and positive earnings. The assumption being that on the whole companies that could bring in positive cashflow must be providing to the overall economy at scale, to make it an appropriate representative of the current economy as a whole. The SP500 does not, or did not in the not too recent past, care about including speculative bets until public markets and price discovery could find some equilibrium away from the shenanigans private markets can play with "valuations" with incredibly restrictive floats and access to internal financials.>thank you for time I agree it's a coupe but not a nukeSpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI, etc. will be about 4-8% of the SP500 by weight with 1 trillion dollar IPOs. If they plummet by 50% for the rest of the year that will represent what is effectively a cut from all index investors of 2-4%. Hard to notice but a very large loss overall to the larger public that relies on that for their retirement. And there seem to be no guard rails from doing this over and over again until "11% historic returns" becomes "5% historic returns" from these targeted IPOs making the returns identical to just holding bonds.The "counter strategy" that will show up will be for funds to start placing their own rules on when they rebalance such as "need to have certain float" or they might short ALL IPOs for the first few months anyway if they are also included on such short time scales. But all this will require more active work and staff from these funds which will lead to increase fund fees.
How indicative is the Hong Kong exchange for the overall Chinese economy? Hong Kong exchange is doing very poorly this year.
>>62160894focus on this >>62160873
>>62160894I doubt SpaceX, OpenAI etc will be allowed to fail spectacularly on the stock market. A lot of big companies and important people have a ton of money invested privately into them.
>>62160894>SpaceX, which is planning an IPO as early as June, posted a nearly $5 billion loss on more than $18.6 billion of revenue last year, according to excerpts of the company's confidential registration statement reviewed by Reuters. OpenAI and rival Anthropic are in early-stage preparations for their IPOs and are also unprofitable according to media reports.This is actually very useful information but also very blackpilling since it seems like this is going to be the top of the market.
>could have been up 443,000 dollars
I think Trump's game is not only to make America rich, but to make everyone else poor and I love him for it. I want to see eurofags grovel, I want to see riots and civil wars in their countries, I want to see Russia invading them and taking them piece by piece while we do nothing. They have made a laughingstock out of our collective legacy and I will never forgive them for it.
>>62160905>A lot of big companies and important people have a ton of money invested privately into them.They cash out into the rebalances. Private investors win.Banks sponsoring the IPO win. The financial services companies win (the SP500 and NASDAQ).Eventually even the fund managers will be able to charge higher fees to "counter" these IPO nukes.The ONLY losers are the passive investors. Those insiders have already won and cashed out when the inclusion happens.>https://wtvbam.com/2026/04/23/analysis-biggest-ipo-wave-in-history-promises-3-trillion-in-value-with-no-profits/>>62160903Probably for the best.
I’m gonna throw 50% of my port (cash) into soxl. What am I in for
>>62160914>Probably for the best.I'm too imbibed to put effort into anything else but will resume later. But please listen to that album on your next long drive. Diamonds are ranked on refractive properties of brilliance and fire, and that album is a gem.
>>62160913I relish in the knowledge that you will suffer first and for longer than anyone else you retarded fucking migger scum.
I hate that SOXL has become so popular. Too many people getting into leveraged ETFs without realising how bad the risks can be
>>62160169I'm the biggest retard ever, I should have bought sandisk and seagate stocks last year, I really fell for the AI bubble collapse meme...........fuck me, what do I buy to make up for that dumbass choice?
>>62160929>sour grapesIt's okay anon, I missed out too
>>62160931Retards should invest in index funds
>>62160918You will 2x your portfolio's net worth by the end of next month if it keeps going.
I kirkenuinely FOMOd into semis, what am I in for?
>>62160951A little more momentum from positive earnings. Then it'll either dip and you'll regret it a bit or it'll crab along consolidating.I unironically believe semis are undervalued so long as the bubble isn't popped. Baring a crash they will keep grinding up.
3 minutes until impact
>>62160956>momentumhttps://distill.pub/2017/momentum/I linked an article on momentum and gradient descent
ASS
>>62160169Of course. AI is new slavery. Robot slaves replace human workers.And I do mean replace.Wagies NEED rich people to give them income.Rich people will replace wagies with robots and won't need most wages at all.
>>62160960That's what she said.
>>62160894>>62160910I want to buy SpaceX but most of the time, the IPO price is WAY inflated and you have to wait until after insiders sell to pick it up.
>>62160963I have been finding arbitrage on SPY options surface, why does this happen?
>>62160966DiscordSpaceXAnthropicOpenAIYou're retarded if you don't buy all these and just hold.
>>62160972you are retarded if you hold the bags for the bottom 3 lol.>IT'S GOING TO 10 TRILLION
fuck me fuck my ass>>62160964rich people will them pay some wagies to protect them from the cannibal gangs of former wagies because it turns out unbalancing the underpinning of sociey is a bad idea, your bunker won't actually protect you from a determined army and your factories and power plants and fields are all very vulnerable.
>>62160972I wouldn't go near anything Elon is involved with. The democrats will be in power next and they will be gunning for him after his doge nonsense.
>>62160988watch him try and pivot back to le reddit iron man persona and claim he was off his meds or some shitspeaking of RDDT...might pick up a couple ahead of earnings
>>62160988Democrats made Elon rich.......
>>62160988>I wouldn't go near anything Elon is involved with. The democrats will be in power next and they will be gunning for him after his doge nonsense.
>>62160994Then he shit on them. That makes it worse.
how long till photonics rotation ends, its starting to feel nervous of my holdingfs
why bears crying on catalog when nothing moves up right now??
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>>62160988>tfw she was right all along, guys
>>62160988>I wouldn't go near anything Elon is involved with.Let's see that TSLA chart, past 10 years.
>>62161029>>62161029>>62161029
>>62161026Now add in the rest of what I said. It's relevant. Unlike your point.
coping with the reality that I wanted control over my life, but every bad decision Ive made in the last 5 years has only made it worse.
>>62161046And then you posted in a dead thread.
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Trannyjanny got his knickers in a twist.
it's joever the markets didn't open
>>62160899I don’t know why bears here are so insistent about staying in the US market.Like bro go play in Europe or Asia. You’re just making it way harder for yourself when you choose the bulltarded US exchanges as your hunting grounds.
for me specifically, it's over
>>62161070Shorting Eurofag garbage companies is taking candy from a baby - or shekels from dumb euro goy cattle.
>>62161082>>62161082>>62161082
>>62160179That turtle was asking to borrow money again
>>62160444He means the pattern day trader rules are changing so you don't need 25k anymore.
>>62161059anny killed the other thread
