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Alternate title: "Eager for a New Thread After a Full Month at Bump Limit Edition"

Keep it /cgl/-related! Cosplay or J-fashion like Lolita/Brolita, Aristocrat, Kimono, Nanchatte, etc.!

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ITT you may post:
- Useful guides that can be applied to crossplaying/crossdressing
- Questions, help, sharing advice to improve your appearance to pass temporary as the opposite gender (Male -> Female, Female -> Male)
- pictures of crossplay/crossdressing coords, selfposts
- personal experience/stories regarding crossplay/crossdressing

NOT allowed:
- Anything in sexual context/fetish stuff
- Anything related to gender transition like hormones, operation etc.; >>>/lgbt/ might be the better place for this
- Casual crossdressing without any /cgl/-context
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Link collection:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K_dKpZOqzVkbN2MtmiU9yTn4LDIfxIhLQAuc8L9xX1k/edit#gid=0

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>>10907268
why you cryin
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No activity yet
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I mean. Summer is still some distsnce away
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hi other thread died but i crossplayed scarlet witch again
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I'll share my latest crossplay, OP! I did Madoka.
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Gonna crossplay again for the first time in 3 years this summer. cant wait.

Shame itll probably be scorching and glisten my makeup
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>>10907562
Very cute! If you don't mind me asking, what was your budget?
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>>10907099
would unironically suck his dick
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>>10907565
I’ve got one planned for end of April, and I’m beyond afraid for my makeup at anything above room temperature
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>>10907590
Room temperature? Da Fuq.

Anything past 25c and Im bailing. The convention centre really isnt sir conditioned and all the heat radiating from these people will murder me when Im wearing my getup.

Might have to strip down some parts
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New to this whole thing.

What you guys think about making vs buying cosplay costumes? I feel like maybe if you buy them people think it’s cheap or lazy or whatever.

Although for me I wanna do Anna Williams for Tekken as my first one and there aren’t many vendors

Either way would this be too hard to make? I am decent at art/painting but I have no experience sewing and I don’t wanna use a sewing machine as I live with my parents and it would be kinda secret what I’m doing

Pic rel
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Hello, Chisato crossplayer on the thread here. This is my first time on 4chan, my friend found it and showed me...

How did my pic end up here :'>
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>>10907694
Are you Asian or white I can’t tell
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>>10907683
You will be making dogshit below some of the "good" chinese premades for at least 2 years.

After that youll probably be making pretty good pieces but it will take plenty of man hours to craft. Only do your own cosplays if youre like super passionate and autistic about arts and crafts
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>>10907566
Budget ended up being about $120? The dress and accessories was bought off taobao for $70-ish dollars, and then the wig and shoes (which I styled and made myself using leftover ribbon) were another $40. Everything else I had at the ready.
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>>10907099
Past threads in earlier years used to have a few lolita anons roaming around. Do they still exist or is it just cosplay anons nowadays?
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>>10907683
Most people buy from what I hear.

That dress isn't too hard to make- I made a similar one for my second ever costume. But without a sewing machine it would take forever and be very difficult.
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>>10907694
You're cute af
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I have a year to achieve this as a 6'0 male. What should I be focusing on in the gym?

My current routine is just pushups/rows/glute thrusts. Keep the course? My legs/calves are bulkier than I'd like due to running for my cardio, but I don't know an alternative that places more emphasis elsewhere.
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>>10903155
finally tried to do some substantial makeup. Hope i did good, the photos really don't do it justice it looks so real irl.
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>>10908028
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>>10908030
idk about the red-black lipstick thing, Very good start tho
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>>10908028
also i hate phone logic
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>>10908028
Good start. Keep practicing.
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>>10908016
why would bulk out your frame even further if you want to crossplay lol.

Stick to thigh and butt exercises, leave all the shoulder, bicep, chest and "abs" alone.
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>>10908139
What targets the thighs/butts but not the calves?
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>>10908167
Youre not gonna grow big calves no matter what you do lol. Just do your leg exercises and climb up stairs.
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>>10908190
I wish I could get juicy (fat, not muscle) calves
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>>10908263
only asians and half asians can have big calves for some reason.
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>>10908190
I'd argue my calves are disproportionately muscular compared to anything else I have, it makes me worried to continue with running as my cardio.
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>>10908286
no one will notice or care.

calve sizes are not gendered.
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>>10908032
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>>10908030
>>10908028
Quite gewd ;)
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>>10908286
why are you half naked...
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high heels question.
These are the heels i am using
they are exactly my shoe size (EU 39), they feel fitting, but if i walk for a few moments they feel like they are slipping.
issue is mostly solved by wearing thick or multiple layers of socks.

My heel feels like it is too far infront of the shoe heel, but when i check my heel is bumped right against the back of the shoe.
Is this how it's supposed to be? am i missing something? i am walking like how the tutorials say, on the outside it looks great and nothing is being damaged, atleast i think, feels very wrong to shift all my weight onto one heel. Any tips, could the heel simply be damaged? there's no noticable difference between left and right so idk, would be crazy if they are both damaged in the same subtle way.
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>>10908384
presently i tied them with really strong ropes so the heels hold level and i have added a really strong glue to the rim which i hope will do well enough.
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>>10908384
Shoe size varies from brand to brand. These probably run a bit large.

Wear the socks. You'll be more comfortable and no one will know. I always wear socks with boots.
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>>10908367
I don't have any tight fitting clothes to point out my musculature so I'm just wearing boxers.
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1) the slightest amount of stubble or facial hair makes people view you as male. for turning into a guy, use artificial facial hair, maybe sideburns, waterproof eyebrow pencils. you can dye what body hair you have dark brown or black, which makes it more visible.

for guys becoming girls, use hair removal cream meant for men's faces (most males have hair that is harder to dissolve than female hair).

for wigs, there are "guy" and "gal" versions of the same hairstyle, pay good attention because a tiny difference in the sideburn area or the shape of the back of the head easily turns a male into a female and most wigs are "female" hair. if your head shape is fucked up making you look the wrong gender, try padding the inside of the wig or adjusting the hair shape with clip-on wefts.

2) you can change your voice to sound like almost anything, including another gender, mother tongue or ethnicity (look up "vocal formants" and lessons for actors and stuff). you can literally make yourself sound like a 16 year old japanese girl or some badass super manly guy. but the hard part is remembering to do it every time you speak.

3) if you need a male crotch, most of the time you can just roll up and safety pin a sock to the inside of your underwear. this would work with a swimsuit cosplay for example (even if you're swimming - no one looks that close). for some costumes, a few forms of sports cups would work. if you're paranoid about the sock falling out or want to go all the way, instead of buying some kind of stick-on dick (which will generally just be a pain in the ass), you can buy a piece of silicone underwear with a flaccid or bendable dick attached, they come in both solid shaft and hollow types for $30-50.

4) shoulder pads, super important for girls becoming guys, nowadays there are self-adhesive silicone ones.

5) don't do stuff like use a female t-shirt to cosplay a male character, the cut of the shirt is different
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>>10907683
if you can buy one that looks great, or that would look great with some minor adjustments you can do yourself, then i would say just buy. anyone who is a busy adult fully understands the fact that not all of us have the free time and patience to make something from scratch.

if you can't find anything for your character or everything is shit, buckle down and try to make it. if you need to be silent, you can use heavy duty fabric glue and hand sew.

the bigger problem with a costume like your pic is that this kind of "chinese dress" fabric is VERY unforgiving to uneven sewing or sewing mistakes. so you gotta be prepared to fail
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>>10908499

> for guys becoming girls, use hair removal cream meant for men's faces (most males have hair that is harder to dissolve than female hair).

Please dont fucking do this unless you wanna end up with chemical burns

Shave and use color corrector when doing makeup
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>>10907099
boring thread
I wanted to see more cute sexy women trying to cosplay male characters but this is all men in women's outfits?
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>>10908968
I believe you're looking for >>10859759
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>>10908499
>you can change your voice to sound like almost anything, including another gender, mother tongue or ethnicity (look up "vocal formants" and lessons for actors and stuff). you can literally make yourself sound like a 16 year old japanese girl or some badass super manly guy. but the hard part is remembering to do it every time you speak.
I have tried, but trying to speak male for more than a sentence or two makes me cough uncontrollable.
Record low was ~130 Hz average
Also let me add:
>hide your chest efficiently
Binders are a thing, but they are fairly restrictive and you will sweat like crazy.
I prefer taping my chest with kinesiology tape (do not ever use duct tape)
It's just as effective, less hot and if you're brave enough you can wear an unbuttoned shirt
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Is it possible to widen my hips/thighs as a male?
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>>10909022
Foam padding could help you there
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>>10909022
Uhh, not without taking meds or surgery.

You can use pads or articles of clothing that poof it up. Works great
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>>10908985
For the love of god stop measuring how male/female a voice sounds through its pitch.

Resonance is far more important, you can sound like a woman even at 110hz and a man at 240hz. Dont go around trying to talk like minnie mouse or a chick trying to use the "deep dude voice".
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>>10909079
literally this. If you are under 30 you can sound like some girl who smoked too much as a teenager if you just talk like a fag from wherever you are from, since they just emulate female musicality, ofc not exactly but it's a good start.
Having a girl/boy voice is nice tho i wish i could pull something like that without castrating myself.
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>>10909022
use pads like i did
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>>10908030
it works really well especially if you are wearing something a bit loose over them.
Under the jersey sweatpants i am wearing a pair of tight sweatpants and under that a pair of tights to hold the pads i made from memory foam. There are plenty of tutorials online for the shape, mostly just cut two africa shaped pieces at your desired size (depends on (you)), mostly look up female hip-to-wait ratios and figure out how much more you need thru basic maths and measuring.
also chest ratio really important, the bigger your tits the less obvious your wide shoulders, and your ass is more accented, ofc all this to a point do not go full cartoony unrealistic.
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painting heels idk if this is it.
it's currently just painted electrical tape i don't want to fuck something up.
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>>10909080
I (AFAB) can do that a bit, but my boy-voice isn't that great.
It's good enough to trick people on the phone though.
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>>10909085
what are you going for anon?
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>>10909022
Leg exercises can give you larger thighs but you'll also gain definition, which will make you look less feminine. There's nothing you can do to widen your hips.

Your best bet is to use hip pads, like other anons have suggested.
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>>10909047
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>>10909149
Thanks! Would it look weird to wear skin colored spandex over the pads? The character I'm aiming for has larger, exposed hips.
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>>10909154
Skin colored tights or leggings look fine. Girls often wear them for cosplay.
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>>10909114
Nothing specific, other than "girl from my city"
Maybe more on the punk alt side, but certainly she is supposed to be the daughter of someone's son, y'know how it works?
Only goal is to look slay and aesthetic as hell.
I want to drive the eyes to specific areas, like the heels, i am not walking in them for nobody to notice.
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>>10909229
girl from the balkans?
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>>10909247
...yeah
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What happened? It was going so well till now
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I got accepted to a college that whose mascot/theme is pirates. I have sweet vests that look antiquated but I'm missing any pirate bottoms/breeches or boots. I don't have to dress as a pirate, but I guess I can, maybe on events.
I like corsets too. I might get an overbust corset.
pic is for sure not me
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>>10910553
oh wow you’re hot
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so where do i start? i feel like learning to do my makeup is a must, that's why i didn't bought any costumes or wigs yet, but i kinda want to see myself on dresses since i've been hitting the gym for a year now
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>>10910618
Unironically just buy a costume, wig, and make up supplies. Don't worry if it's good enough, you should focus on just starting period. The more you actually do it, the more you'll understand how it works, what you'll want changed, and improve. Don't worry about starting perfect, just start.
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>>10910630
sounds reasonable, guess i'll start with the good old maid/gothic dress and go from there
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>>10909085
okay nevermind this the spray paint is already flaking from simply passively existing.
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>>10910630
>>10910631

Also make sure it's something your comfortable with wearing outside in public. My first crossplay costume was a Harley Quinn from Artifice but I've never had the confidence to actually wear it out in public. I enjoy wearing it at home, but it's never been out.
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>>10910553
How does one achieve this build
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how do you guys figure out which poses work best for your crossplay?
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>>10911636
try some in the mirror well in advance of the con, take pictures even. come back a few days later now that the moments all passed and filter out the ones you now hate, and adjust what you think could be okay. just do practice before the con or else you'll see a picture of yourself someone took and want to die
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>>10911640
awesome, thanks. I’m still very pleasantly surprised that two people asked to take pics, but I assume they’re not the type that post on social media for me to be able to see them. I like the ones my friend took of me with others though.
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Finally got a Catwoman cosplay that fits. I had to try it on even if I haven't received hip pads and breasts yet to fill out the suit better. I'm not worried at all about getting the makeup right, I've done makeup heavy cosplays before and there's a lot of videos on how to get 1992 Catwoman right.
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something i've noticed is that it is a lot more acceptable and normie for women to crossdress than men.
Was talking with a female friend who also crossdressed a few times and idk when i was talking with her, her comments felt like she didn't have any sour interactions, or even a pleasant "watch out" from strangers.
Also when we got to talking about how to do it it felt so much weirder for me to say that i sculpted the chest and hips than for her to mention binding her chest or to paint a beard. It was a natural conversation.
In general just noticing that women get away with more weird shit.
Maybe i'm just high and brooding.
Don't have a point, just a though.
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>>10912648
That's because it's easier for women to pass as men than vice versa.
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>>10912648
Have you had any bad experiences? That "also" implies you have some idea of how this goes, forgive me if I'm reading it wrong. In my dozens of times crossplaying (including on the street) I've never been insulted for it, even if there's definitely been a few flirting weirdos in the mix. Those are always guys in street clothes, might I add. What's definitely apparent at least, is girls are far more prone to crossplaying now
>just a though.
lel
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>>10912648
Generally speaking, it's easier and more accepted for females to dress and style in male attire, because it is considered a move of empowerment and self-determination that contradicts the traditionalist image of females being weak and fragile. On top of that, many of the widespread modern clothing pieces that are worn by men already have female equivalents (same basis, but usually slightly different cuts), which already closes the gap between male and female fashion. So, technically speaking it becomes even harder to draw a clear line between straight up crossdressing and just having a more masculine oriented fashion sense if that makes sense.

On the other hand, males dressing up in female clothings is considered the exact opposite for the broad public in most places, due to the same traditional views. A man liking to wear extremely feminine fashion is seen as a sign of weakness, an act that contradicts the ideal of embracing the "males need to be strong and show it" image. From a mere technical POV, for most males it's also harder to pass as feminine simply due to phycial characteristics. Many east and south-east asians are pretty lucky here since they tend to be not as tall and bulky or have strong chiseled features like for example many caucasians do.
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I am so fucking pissed. And in despair.
Decided to finally try cosplaying as a guy again after I gave up on that because of my baby face, but a few friends encouraged me and I knew I had the contacts I needed.
Turns out, I go to get them for a costest and they have disappeared from their usual spot, and my mother who is constantly entering my room without knocking SWEARS she does not remember moving them. We have searched in my entire damn room and nothing. Con is this weekend. Bought new ones but they are only arriving next week. Fml... I hate doing non accurate cosplays but I guess it will have to be green contacts for this one.
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>>10912650
true but i pass well enough.
Enough to confuse a guy who tried to hit on me. His face got so fucking red lmao
>>10912652
Not yet, but i keep getting told that i will (in good spirit) from strangers and i mean village yokel country is all around me.
There's this feeling that i shouldn't be surpised if it leads to violence.
>>10912656
true but where i live women are also chiseled, moreso than in neighbouring countries.
I've lost "friends" over this, though mostly even the straight up neo-nazi far right guys i know don't care cause i've been able to dig up my niche of "local artist" which just lets me get away with so much so long as the social distinction is maintained, sometimes it does suck being othered but i love being able to do and say anything and have someone listen and see.

Also friends telling me i should crossdress for fiume or even venice carneval, not a bad idea, beyond that to get there i have to go through the mountains (inhabited by the worst kind of village idiots) and i don't think the female friend is parsing that i can't just go through there dressed like that.
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>>10912699
People dont care about passing or at the very least semi-attractive looking cross dressers and trannies. Thats literally his point.

Religion and the patriarchy pretty much wont allow men to be anything more than creatively and emotionally retarded drones for the most part.

They also dont like what women are doing but unlike men, women as a whole actually have each others backs and have fought back from men trying to control and shame their actions.
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>>10912706
nayrt, but pretty much this. Women in the west fought for the right to be able to wear trousers. There is no widespread successful equivalent of men fighting for the right to wear dresses/skirts in the west. For women trousers were a garment that made it safer to do all kinds of jobs, so it was a case of practicality and increased freedom. Most men don't want to wear dresses/skirts just for the aesthetics alone, and in most cases dresses and skirts aren't as practical as trousers. The only times I hear about men wanting to wear skirts is when companies/schools require men to wear long trousers during hot weather. So without the excuse of practicality men generally don't have any reasons other than aesthetics to wear skirts/dresses. Men wanting to wear dresses/skirts because they like what they look like is considered a bad thing because of patriarchal values. If a guy wants to win the fight for the right to wear dresses/skirts he will have to find other men to join his cause otherwise it will never happen.
The enemy isn't women, it's anyone who cares about preserving traditional values.
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>>10912709
you make it sound like i am refering to casual crossdressing, like wearing a skirt to work, which is against thread rules (!!!)

No but i mean strictly in the costume sense, women can get away with way weirder shit than men.
Don't get how traditional values play into something where the point is artistic expression. Granted most woman costumes are just being half naked with a vague theme.
>>10912706
yeah i guess...
still sucks man i feel like i have to carry a knife every time just to be safe.
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>>10912719
I was explaining why you may encounter prejudice when crossplaying. That's not against thread rules, I'm not giving you advice on how to cross dress in general.
You can't separate cosplay from general society because people into cosplay and people who attend conventions are also people who are out and about in society. So someone who has a lot of issues with seeing men crossdressing in general is also going to have a problem with men crossplaying unless you make it clear it's obviously a gag (like man faye or an obese bearded guy wearing a sailor moon costume). If you approach crossplay with any level of seriousness and effort/craft these guys will have a problem with you. For your sake I hope you don't encounter them.

"women can get away with way weirder shit than men" it has already been explained by several anons why this is. It's because of general norms related to which garments which sex is allowed to wear, women aren't automatically assumed to be a threat/sex pest. Women crossplaying aren't given special treatment/leeway over men just because they're female. Men crossplaying are just judged more harshly because of patriarchal beliefs and because men crossdressing in general is considered perverted. The few bad apples that sexually harass people and/or flash people whilst crossdressing/crossplaying just strengthens those views.
You passing enough, to the level that some guy actually thought you were a woman first, actually does not work in your favor regarding your safety. We know some guys get violent if they think you're a woman and they try to hit on you and then they discover you're a guy.
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>>10912723
I thankfully live in a more liberal city, still would never crossdress outside of the strict legal boundary of the city center, beyond that point free expression stops and there are no cameras to record violence. Never go alone, too
>You passing enough, to the level that some guy actually thought you were a woman first, actually does not work in your favor regarding your safety.
yeah i know i was scared shitless for a moment
>it has already been explained by several anons why this is.
was just repeating my point cause i thought it got lost.
>If you approach crossplay with any level of seriousness and effort/craft these guys will have a problem with you. For your sake I hope you don't encounter them.
I also hope it never goes to thaty so far mostly only had positive, friendly or old men busting my balls type interactions. But as i said i do get warned to "watch out" a lot.
There is also the chance of getting drugged and trafficked but i prefer to not think about that.
i know crossdressing used to be way more acceptable in commie times, before the internet, but since online exists people have just gotten very reactionary and presumptuous about every little thing it's honestly crazy if you ask me.

>unless you make it clear it's obviously a gag
imo gag enough is that i am clearly dressed as a woman on carneval/haloween or whatever, but i honestly find those kinds of costumes just too bastardizing, since i put so much effort and they get all the praise cause "man in dress" or whatever.
>Men crossplaying are just judged more harshly because of patriarchal beliefs and because men crossdressing in general is considered perverted. The few bad apples that sexually harass people and/or flash people whilst crossdressing/crossplaying just strengthens those views.
i'll be honest and admit that i haven't thought of it in this way, mostly just considered that someone might think i'm a fag or a tranny.

Don't want to sound like i'm bitching or anything, just pondering.
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>>10912719
Pretty much no one would tell a guy wearing a period-accurate toga, kimono, cowboy boots or war paint that he's not masculine because a dress, high heels or makeup. But in most countries there has been no movement whatsoever to bring back traditional clothing for men, and when it is done it's usually taken from a more recent era than the women's clothing (so the women's comes from year 1100 but the men's comes from 1900 and looks more like a modern day suit). If we all regularly saw people walking around in traditional clothing of all kinds, and had no stigma against wearing that of another country's (no bitching when a white guy wears a kimono or a Chinese guy wears a toga) - men's clothing would be really different. Females have preserved a lot of the crazy historical fashion stuff the males have lost.
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>>10912744
i very much agree with this i want to wear crazy nobleman shit with long mexican style capes and feathers and all the facepaint and ornaments i can. My vision is unfortunately limited by the backwards society i inhabit
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Found this honestly amazing fade rautha concept art idk if this counts as crossplay in the legalist orthodox jew sense but god damn this gives me such an idea. Already started work on a spacesuit "replica" so i'll take a little less gay and more modernist hard-scifi take but god damn can i do so much with this.
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Well it took almost 5 years but I've finally ticked off a box that every crossplayer eventually will have to: Being called "faggot" in public
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>>10912991
Just look the square in the face and tell them you're not an inconsiderate jerk who rides a Harley.
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>>10912991
Happened to me first time but i just own it i mean, what are you supposed to do?
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>>10912991
what hurt more than fag was being told I was in "drag" I felt so ashamed I retired that cosplay. like damn thats how people see me huh
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>>10913133
what was the cosplay?
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>>10913133
some people think drag just means cross dressing, maybe they didn't mean it that way
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>>10912991
I present as female as it gets outside wearing skirts whenever I go to town and Ive never been called a slur, its kinda invalidating.

I do get disapproving stares and reactions in the mens bathroom though
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>>10913133
>>10913177
Some people don't understand the differences between drag, crossplay, crossdressing and female impersonation. As anon said. They might not have intended an insult.
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>>10913030
>>10913124
>>10913133
>>10913208
I didn't even get a look at the guy's face. Just someone rolling by really slowly in their car at night. I'm honestly not insulted, it was more amusing than anything else. Also most of the disapproving stares are from kids and the guys who see me in the bathroom are more likely to double take or crack a joke
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>>10913208
what do you mean
>present as female
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>>10913389
Wearing unisex stuff or even slightly girl leaning stuff (pleated shorts and tights).

I had a tiny bit of work done so a slight change of clothing and a bit of makeup makes a huge difference
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>>10913406
i'm too much of a bonehead to be a maneless lion
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>>10913476
Im sorry anon I dont get what youre saying. Are you bald without a wig or something?
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>>10913520
In nature a viable mating strategy for a lion is to lose his mane and blend in with the lionesses, threatening unsuspecting males who approach.
I am simply not of that character, body? frankly maybe i could pull it off without padding, but that's not who (me) is.
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>>10913655
eh, padding doesnt really matter much if thats what you want. I cant think of any situation where that would suddenly change how someone would percieve you
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>When no replies for 11 days
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>>10916271
*kisses you*
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>>10916271
>toilet
Realy dumb question:
Wich toilet should I use if I'm a woman crossplaying as a man?
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>>10916308
does it… really matter?
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>>10916308
>>10916320
Pick the one that makes people double take when they walk in. *Recoil* if you will...
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>>10916308
if you legit look like a man in the womens bathroom then you risk getting beaten up when some 55yo menopausal terf throws a fit and a bunch of rednecks jump at an excuse to enter a female bathroom and to attack someone.

Alternatively just pick whatever will draw the most attention to yourself. I like the hostile glares I get when I enter the male bathroom in the mall whenever I just wanna be fem presenting for a change.
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>>10916308
honestly probably womens with how many females cosplay male genshin characters its pretty normal
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I finally gattered the courage to go my first con in crossplay, i had tons of fun and can barely wait for the next one
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>>10916271
Use the unisex / family bathroom, or if at a convention, pee in your room.
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>>10908290
>calve sizes are not gendered.
Ask me how I know you're a hon.
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>>10916963
Unisex isn't a thing in most places
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>>10917149
I wouldn't quite say the size is gendered, but definitely round and smooth is more feminine than muscular and defined
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>>10917433
nayrt, we can often see if the legs belong to a man because of what you mentioned (women's legs are rounder, smoother and softer looking), but also men's legs are often more bony around the knees and quite tapered between the ankle and calves, they also often have more definition on the shins.
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First time poster. Been crossplaying for as long as I've been cosplaying now (~1.5 years or so) and biggest issue has been dealing with godawful body hair/facial hair growth. I take a cartridge razor to both (face every 2-3 days, body I cycle through arms->chest->legs->repeat) and double down on it in the days leading up to a con but i still always feel self-conscious of it, especially the godforsaken eternal five o'clock shadow my face has which I try to counteract by wearing a mask the entire time I'm at a con. Any tips? I have a cheap epilator that understandably hurts like hell so I don't use it much, and Nair is messy as shit and has never really done anything for me, even Nair made specifically for guys. Thinking about buying something like pic related to see what happens, or investing in a safety razor since apparently those work better than my mid DSC. Should I start looking into color corrector and concealer too? The only make-up I've done before is nail polish so it makes me kinda nervous... (I've never been too concerned about fully passing, just looking good as the character, if that makes sense.)
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>>10917887
>I have a cheap epilator that understandably hurts like hell so I don't use it much
Using an epilator on your face causes scarring.
I used to do that weekly for a few years (I'm transgender)
Don't do that anymore.

My advice would be to just shave the day of.
Using a wet/dry electric razor should work for daily shaving, after exfoliating in the shower and with shower gel.
Moisturize your face after.
If you are looking at "safety" razors I would reccomend this site leafshave.com
I have a 1 blade single edged razor from there.

The picture you posted looks like a derma-planer.
They work but they're better for light hairs I think.

It's important that you replace the razors often, especially for shaving your face.
It can be rough to shave your face daily.
Your post reminds me of a lot of pain from when I was 18 and I had no one to teach or help me.
Be gentle on your face.
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>>10916308
i use the men's toilet as a man crossplaying women, for you there should not even be a risk of violence.
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want to make a pair of high-heels like picrel from scratch.
Yes i know this is an unecessary level of effort i just want to do it.
My idea was reinforced lego technic and some traditional woodbinding methods taught to me, but idk, what would be the best aproach to make something like this at home? Nothing fancy or long-lasting, i'd prolly only wear them once.
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>>10917905
>Using an epilator on your face causes scarring.
Oh christ no, only on my limbs, should've clarified that, sorry. Same with Nair though I've also tried it on my chest.

I try to shave every morning at a con, face and body, though I've never exfoliated or moisturized. I'm very willing to try though, any product or brand recommendations?

>It's important that you replace the razors often, especially for shaving your face.
Yeahhhh I struggle with that, not because I forget but because I'm just overly thrifty and only change the cartridge like once a month. A bad habit I'm very aware of but stubbornness wins out. I'll start changing it more often. I use six-blade cartridges, would that be the best for the closest shave?
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>>10917958
i really like lush's co mingle scrubs for pre-shave. for moisturiser i recommend clinique for face, mango butter everywhere else. mango butter also helps fade scarring.
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I've used veet on one arm, then shaved my other arm with my Lord safety razer with my favourite shaving cream, I only got a few nicks from the razor but I really don't see the difference from the two after a day when the wounds have healed.
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>>10917915
Never make your own shoes from scratch. You can do permanent damage to your feet in only a couple of hours wearing homemade shoes, especially heels. Start by buying a cheap shoe that resembles what you want- online or from Goodwill- cut it back to just the heel and sole, then make the strap bits on top of it. The pic looks like gold leather- I got no tips for leatherworking.
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>>10917905
I shave my arms and legs, but usually buy a sugar wax kit for my chest.

If you've got facial shadow, invest in some coverup and foundation. I use Max Factor Pan Stick for cover and Revlon Colorstay for foundation- colorstay won't rub off if you touch your face (which is a bad habit of mine...)
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>>10918014
oops I replied to the wrong post- meant to reply to >>10917887
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I dont know if this question is allowed here since it is a fairly common operation so...
Have any of you had rhinoplasty to make your nose smaller/delicate? How well did it make your crossplay pass before and after?

Just to clarify i want a rhino because i dont like my big nose, not just to crossplay. Simple curiosity.
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>>10918029
Ive had stuff done to my face EXCEPT rhinoplasty.

That shit is just a botch/revision magnet. You better have a nose that is currently worse than any possiblebbad result.

Also it barely feminizes you, just makes you more "western european" looking.
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>>10918060
my nose is basically this, it is also wide
I recently tried a long haired wig and is my big nose the thing that stands out the most in my face
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>>10917971
I'll check those out, thank you!

>>10918014
>>10918016
I've heard about sugar wax and considered it, but I've already heard it pretty much destroys the growth permanently and that makes me somewhat antsy to do something irreversible. Definitely gonna start looking into coverup and foundation, Revlon seems like a good choice since I've always used their nail polish and I have no complaints
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>>10918137
I mean, I dunno dude, my nose is also fairly big. I also have a hump and the tip is quite bulbous.

That kind of nose you posted isn't masculine at all, it's just ethnic. The sloped nose look is really getting pushed a lot for a while now.

I used to obsess over it and was spending so much time finding a good surgeon but eventually stopped cause I got semi ghosted by the receptionist of the one I wanted. After more moments of clarity I learned it's really not worth the risk the revision rates are high (15%+++), the recovery sucks and It's not even that feminizing.

I'm not gonna push shit so all I'm gonna say is the nose is never the most masculine part of any dudes face. You might be obsessing too much over nothing like I did, but ofc your self image is also valid.
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>>10918137
Also if your wig has bangs on it then they greatly accentuate your nose and lower face because everything else is covered.

Add in the selfie camera distortion and you got a recipe for disaster.
There's a reason I always expose my forehead, its very good for symmetry.
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>>10918221
>>10918222
You look awesome in those photos.
My nose is definitely wider than yours and also de right entry is bigger than the left, I dont think is obsession I could live with it fine but since I could "fix it" i always thought why not

>The sloped nose look is really getting pushed a lot for a while now.
Even if indeed its getting pushed i really like that shape, cant help it

And yeah the wig had bangs because i like the himecut style maybe i should try with another one different, anyways thanks for the info
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>>10918221
Did you have work other than nose done, then? If so, do you have any before and afters?

I'd like to get my nose fixed as well but I'm wondering if it's just less painful/more meaningful to focus elsewhere.
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>>10918312
post nose profile. This looks like good looking nose, I don't see anything wrong with it.
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>>10918339
The tip loops bulbous and I've been told the gap between my nose and lips is too large, but I've also been told that the correction surgery for that is one of the worst.
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How the hell do you manage to shave daily with at least acceptable results? If I shave daily, even with a ton of preperation and an electric razor which is the most gentle way, I dont even get smooth anymore. Not talking about the shadow which is always there und whatever but I stay full of stubble and get horribly irritated. Just thinking about actual blades makes my face bleed like I'm coming straight from the set of a new hellraiser.
The best I can do is waiting at least two days before going again. Chesthair is even worse.
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>>10918345
men have longer philtrums (the vertical space between the base of the nose and the lips) than women do. Yours looks completely normal. You describe your nose as bulbous but I would not describe it as bulbous. You have a very nice nose in the profile view. You don't have any bumps or humps or dents. Your nose isn't hooked. The height of the tip and the amount of nose tip projection are also fine. Honestly, your nose is one of the prettiest things about your face. Eyes and brows look good too.
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>>10918345
if it's bulbous then it's not visible from these angles. Maybe if you post a head on shot I could actually see it.
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>>10918312
>>10918345

I had work done on my brow bones, chin+jaw and a lip lift.

Your nose looks fine, you have nothing to gain having it worked on.

Your philtrum is normal by male standards I wouldnt bat an eyelash if I saw a dude that had that. The horrible "correcting" surgery part sounds very suspect, did some braindead troon tell you to get lefort osteotomy or something lol, thats not the fix for it.
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>>10918362
>How the hell do you manage to shave daily with at least acceptable results?
You really don't from experience. I'm the anon who's been asking questions about shaving these past couple days, letting each section of my body (face/legs/arms/chest) go for 3 or so days before tackling it (alternated out of course) has provided the best results. If I try daily it just feels like a waste of time better spent just looking for spots i missed. You'd have to go beyond shaving for the perfection you're looking for I feel.
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>>10918153
Waxing or any type of epilation will eventually destroy the hair follicles and be irreversible- but that's over many cycles. Doing it a couple of times a year for a few years won't cause permanent chest hair loss.
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>>10918362
Electrics are not necessarily the most gentle way to shave. If you use an electric, buy a high quality one and change the blades every 4-6 months. Buy the expensive blades from the manufacturer, not a third party. I bought "fits Norelco" blades off Amazon and they tore my face up.

But beyond that- if you have sensitive skin and coarse hair like I do, you may not be able to use an electric everywhere (or even anywhere) on your face. I can use mine everywhere except under my chin and on my neck.

Electric razors cut in every direction. A safety razor cuts in one direction. Shaving coarse and/or wiry hair can make it form a point, like a chisel. If it gets cut too short, that point slips under the skin and causes irritation. To prevent this, you need to shave with the direction of the hair (from the top of the face down) using a blade that doesn't cut too close. I use Schick Xtreme 3 Sensitive disposables under my chin and down my neck. I've tried a few other brands but they all cut too close.
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>>10918345
anon nose is defo not the make or break in crossplay what's more important is hiding your neck and jawline, tho you frankly have it lucky there. you just about have the perfect face for it.
>>10918364
this is partly because men have smaller lips
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I thought eyeliner would be easy to apply but it turns out I can't keep a steady enough hand to not fuck it up completely. I bought a liquid liner and it kills my eyes even after i tried to wash it off. Apparently I should have used a pencil liner?
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>>10918362
>even with a ton of preparation and an electric razor
I thought it was common knowledge that electric shavers are the cause of those five o'clock shadows. I've always used the old fashioned safety razor and shaving cream to have the smoothest shaves I can get and then I"ll always get compliments for it
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>>10919480
Both take practice to apply, but pencil is easier than liquid.
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>>10919480
pencil is 100x easier and easily fixable. liquid ones are just so easy to fuck up and washing it of will ruin my eyemakeup.

I have -5.75 eyesight so I need all the leeway I can get.
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>>10919576
I used to do eyeliner with an eyeliner pencil, then go over it with liquid eyeliner.
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So I've mostly taken crossplaying as something casual. Not as "haha burly man in a dress" or "cute trap UwU", just a costume preference. Now that the newest one has gotten obviously interested girls to start approaching me, I'm finally ready to step the game up and learn makeup. And here I thought going into this it would be the other way around
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>>10918362
as someone else said, I use an electric razor first, which gets the quickest shave with least possibility of cutting myself, but it leaves stubble. i then go over it with a manual razor, which leaves no stubble. the electric razor head i use is not the one that looks like 3 circles, i use one that looks like hair clippers because the 3 circle one hurts like hell. i dont have anything fancy, just a $20 electric shaver off Temu and the cheapest manual razors (3 blade) i could find
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>>10919480
just use tape or gauze.
women do this all the time.
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>>10916308
don't use it based on the character you're cross playing as, just go to the women's as usual. conventions are loaded with women cosplaying as guys, trust me you're not gonna stand out in the women's room since it's such a common occurance anyways. same way guys who cosplay as girls or traps still go to the men's. the least you'll get are double take from normies but it's whatever
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How to girl voice?
I can get th e tone, accent and intonation just right, but i can't ever get the ptich to last longer than a few words before my voice breaks.
Friends told me i sound like some 30yo hag who has been smoking since she's 10 when i do the accent and idk if that's honestly good enough?
Youtube tutorials don't help much, want actual advice.
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>>10917905
What cons do you go to? Pretty sure I know you based on how you talk.
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The shoes hurt my feet terribly.
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>>10921506
I'm always so conflicted on shoes. I hate how big my feet are so I try for the smallest looking ones possible but at the cost of comfort. Always a battle between do I want to look nicer but want to die, or look and feel worse but I can walk around all day no problem.
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>>10921244
This is in the uncanny valley between "/cgl/-related" and "Anything related to gender transition". Presumably not so I have to ask why you wanna do it for something temporary. Not only is it way more effort than necessary but I don't know anyone who does it for just their character. In fact "girl voice" is the only obvious hint when I'm trying to tell a crossplayer from a tranner
>>10921506
Looking good, anon, and I commend the dedication. It's also something to keep in mind since I'm planning a similar outfit. Also
>Only two cosplayers in frame
What happened here?
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>>10921512
a party trick is a party trick man
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How 2 order miku cosplay on Amazon when I still live with parents without getting disowned?
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>>10922654
It's not gonna say what you ordered on the package. Or are you using their account?
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>>10922654
Approach them and explain it nicely, I’m sure they’ll understand, Anon.
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>>10922654
Order it to an amazon drop box nearby. I did that when I first bought a crossplay wig.
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Is turning a regular heel into a wedge a feesable task?
I can't what i want in my price range, but i can find similar boots but they aren't wedges so i'm thinking of just like taping and painting a wedge. Ofc more sturdy materials but the same idea.
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I'm a guy and I want to do a crossplay for the first time. I want to buy a Nanakusa Nazuna costume for Ali and I need tips on how to style a wig and make up (I'll be wearing a mask). I also probably need breast pads, but I do not know how to do it.
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>>10908109
Wtf, is it one person, is it real?
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>>10923355
That seems totally doable.
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>>10923396
Not to brush you off, but for wig styling, I'd ask in the wig help thread.

As far as cleavage goes- if you want a breastplate Eyung and Royaner make quality products. Wait (if you can) for a sale, they have them about twice a year. Often there's one on singles day (11/11). But if you're not looking to be really busty (and the character isn't) you could get away with stuffing a bra and taping you cheat, or using an adhesive silicone bra.
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>>10923436
Oh, I didn't notice that tread right away, I'll ask there.
Adhesive silicone bra looks like what I need. I hope they have the right sizes.
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Are femboys fine here? :3
I really want to play as Lio Fotia but in a dress or in a more feminine matter.
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>>10921511
you have no idea how grateful I am to have small feet
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>>10923802
I hope you take advantage of it and crossplay well anon
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>>10923839
I do, thank you. Not long ago I ordered some tall boots to upgrade my cosplay.
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Is it strange to cosplay a character from the game you don't play or don't have? I was cosplaying Hoshiguma and there is this kid come take a picture and talk about Hoshiguma and Arknights with me. And I kinda have no idea what he is talking about because I haven't played it for years and I don't even have her. I just thought she looks cool. What do you do in this situation? I'm about to cosplay Xueyi from HSR and I don't even use her. Gacha game is such a chore.
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>>10924115
I'd at least try and learn some lore on who I'm cosplaying. A quick fandom wiki article read at minimum so you aren't caught totally off guard
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>>10924115
Get out of cringe free card with this one easy trick!!
>My friends are doing a group cosplay of this series and they needed a last minute replacement
No one's gonna ask further, or if they do, they aren't worth engaging anyway. Since you've already played in the past, it's an even easier out
>>10924125
And of course this too
>>10923579
I don't see why they wouldn't be. A lot of "default" crossplay characters are already male to begin with. I'm curious too though, what's the idea behind giving a new outfit to an established character? I don't see a lot of people doing that
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No escaping being seen as a fetishist? is there?
Being real good helps or doesn't help?
i don't even do this stuff regularly, but man i do it good and i like sharing all costumes i make but anything related to this is polarizing.
i do fear i don't pass enough sometimes but i think i do good, i always do good on my costumes.
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>>10924392
>No escaping being seen as a fetishist? is there?
Those that are deeply convinced that any form of crossdressing is inevitably tied to fetishism are rarely open to be proven wrong. Pick your battles, save your energy for something else.

>Being real good helps or doesn't help?
It does help with the initial reception since showing masculine traits will give people the uncanny valley feeling, unless you sell it as an obvious joke, because "you lost a bet".

>i do fear i don't pass enough sometimes but i think i do good, i always do good on my costumes.
Have you received feedback for your outfits? Consider that things like proper lighting, angles, poses and picking outfits that suit your shape can influence and raise the perceived quality by a LOT.
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>>10924702
i have been mistaken for a real woman so i like to think i did good.
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>>10924392
The easiest way to avoid that is easy: don't overemphasize any sexual angle to it
>but anything related to this is polarizing
Is this based on anything people actually tell you? I wouldn't put too much stock in it. Even outside the context of crossdressing, I've noticed a trend: the only people who ever criticize my outfits to my face also aren't worth taking seriously and just wanna bitch about minor details
>>10924771
Of course this helps your cause too
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where can I find socks like this? Leg-warmer volume but it's still a sock
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>>10924787
do get called faggot but it almost feels joking, like i mean you just have to say "faggot", even i do it. Idk maybe it's some stating the obvious type laugh.

Nah i shouldn't really care so much i get called so many things over even the most basic and inoffensive stuff i do unrelated to this. Feeling kind of a wave going way too safe and things that used to be (debateably) normal to do are now stigmatized. maybe it's just cause june makes people sick and tired of anything even slightly "gay"
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>>10925098
Sounds like there's nothing to really worry about then
>Nah i shouldn't really care so much
There's this script that everybody seems to follow when it comes to crossplay
>Maybe I could do it but naaah that's embarrassing
>Ok I'll do it but noncommittal
>Ok I'll do it but fully embrace
What you said there is the end stage. That comes after seeing the reception you get is either all positive or neutral. Of course I'm also feeling like a bit of a hypocrite here too. You can see who I have / want to dress as throughout the thread but for some reason Ryo here gets to me. It's cause of the "baggage" that comes with picking someone from Bocchi
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>>10924788
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>>10925148
Anon i am mainly worried because violence is always a potential outcome i must keep on my mind and i want to keep it distant.
I don't get what you mean "fully emrbace", this isn't the only artsy thing i do. I don't "fully embrace" these things, i keep myself generalized.
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>>10925240
Nayrt, but I think the other anon means with "to fully embrace" to take a project seriously, do your best to make it as good as you can, and aim to have fun at the convention without being embarrassed about it. Like don't walk around like you're trying not to be seen.
Have confidence whilst crossplaying.

I don't think anon means you should treat this as your only hobby and not have time for anything else.
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>>10925243
Oh well i do everything the best i can and i always do it right so not an issue for me.
When in costume, any costume, i just beam with light. Everyone wants to take photos, look at me, it's honestly amazing.
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>>10925244
...also i don't go to conventions i go out to get shitfaced and any excuse to get shitfaced in costume i jump at. Amazing how much freedom society let you have before globalism started eating away at our culture and our ways of expression. I don't want to go on a long mountain-folk nationalist rant, but it's just so sickening at this point how much FUN is gone in my city.
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I found my foundation sking color. I still see my 5 o'clock shadow. How do I get rid of it? Do I get concealer that is darker than my foundation?
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>>10925374
There are multiple possible methods to cover up your beard shadow. I recommend searching for tutorials on YouTube.
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>>10918029
I had one a few weeks ago to correct my septum, and other stuff & I also like that overdone sloped nose look. The surgeon wouldn't perform it because he said it can make your bridge collapse.
He said making it too small would look out of place on the rest of my face too.

I asked him to make it softer/more feminine and he knew exactly what I meant.
It's not much different in size, so the wig issue is still there desu. But the side profile is much nicer. He upturned the tip slightly, and gave it the illusion of a sloped nose. I had a harsh bridge and it was softened out too.

>>10918221
>the recovery sucks
I only took regular painkillers for a few days and even that felt unnecessary. It pretty much painless. The worst part is sleeping upright if you're used to your side desu.
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While "will my homies judge me for being a freak?" has gotta be one of the most recurring crossplayer questions ever, let's flip the script. Has anybody else ever felt their "homies" are thirsting? It's only a couple of them, but their attitudes and speech noticeably change when I'm in or out of costume. They're touchier, start leering, start say "Haha that's my waifu!" Once or twice, it's easy to brush off. Every time? I have to call a spade a spade
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>>10926156
It does certainly happen. But it's not also limited to them. If you pull it off well, the thirst rate of people in general will shoot through the roof. So be prepared for that.
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>>10926201
People often give opinions that run totally counter to reality. The gut reaction being "You're gonna have men lusting for you", when it's really the girls who swoon. And yeah, there are some trap thirsters here or there but they're always dudes in casual clothes
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>>10926257
i went out with this lesbian friend, we were both crossdressing and after a few drinks she started flirting with me it was franlly jarring.
I got to see what lesbian flirting looks and feels like to be the subject of.
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>>10926435
...it's frankly really weird and immature and i could literally never get away with talking to a straight woman like that
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Am I in over my head? I'd like to cosplay pic related in about a month, I've never made a wig before.
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>>10926156
lets flip the script again, how many of you want to be plapped by dudes
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>>10926478
Fucking LEL. Couldn't have proved my own point here >>10926257 any better friend.
>>10926435
Of course, I have to wonder how much of a unicorn this situation is, but it's now on my bucket list
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any black crossplayers here? im interested in trying but i only ever see whites and asians
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>>10926495
I'm not but have met my fair share throughout (they usually post here)
>>10926472
If they're not "homies" and repressing, yes, but that's harder to come by than girls into it
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>>10926495
If I'm not quite wrong, there was a black crossplaying anon that cosplayed as Roberta I think.
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>>10926486
i must admit with shame that that was the only time i ever flirted with a woman, tho.
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>>10926631
No shame in that. Who were you dressed as? Some costumes draw the girls harder but none (that I'm aware of) said they were lesbians
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>>10925374
Generally you should use "peach" colored color correcting concealer. The large color correcting pallette by Nyx has that. There's a similar color sold by LA Girl that's just as good.
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>>10926756
no particular character, the idea was just crossdressing. She was a guy i was a girl. I think we both did a really good job, had some female friends help with makeup and styling.
i guesss the theme was "discord couple"
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>You didn't wear that skirt ever again, right? Cause I'm terrified of my friends seeing it pop up on their Instagram pages
Sounds like a distinctly (you) problem, and also, "NO."
>>10926967
Welp the OP post says "no casual crossdressing" but maybe it's time to drop that. this actually put a new spin on things. And since I've *not* had a crossdressing lesbian come on to me before, what does...
>It's frankly really weird and immature
...entail? I can imagine but wanna be sure
>i guesss the theme was "discord couple"
lel
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>>10927086
oh it wasn't like we just went out, it was carneval and funny thing we were the only people in costume (which is such a fucking shame my city is so fucking lame nowadays)
i wouldn't call it "casual crossdressing" they were costumes for carneval
but anyway we got a bit tipsy and i suggested i go buy some more and she had this realisation and told me to
>not worry my girly head and let the man handle it
or something maybe i'm mixing the order of events but i know we started talking some real weird shit after she went for her liqour bottle.
It was this role inversion where i played the airhead dumb woman and she played the overconfident man i could get into specifics but it was mostly me saying
>my dumb female brain can't X
and her saying
>lucky i am a man and right here

we didn't make out or anything and it could have just been drunk fucking around for all i know and not flirting
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so, according ti my mom,
my crossdressing is kinda weird but whatever the hell is going on in the olympics is
>le unqestionable art
i pass better than half those damn old-ass men, i don't get why these drag queens have to ALWAYS be in their 50's
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>>10930862
>i don't get why these drag queens have to ALWAYS be in their 50's
Kinda feel that's the only way they see how they could make crossdressing and showing it off publicly work. And yeah, it's not always a pleasure to look at when Jim and Harry squeeze themselves into a skin tight dress and shove their head into a bucket of face paint after a long shift at the factory.
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>>10930869
i mean if you ask me it's because modern art in general has been comandeered by way-past-their-prime boomers but this is just ridiculous at this point man just force them to retire man.

Don't get what you mean by this being the "only way". I guarantee you if it was a bunch of 20yo's nobody would really care. Also the quality of subliminal satanism has dropped so hard man it's unreal now they just wear pentagrams the wrong way and use baphomet in the wrong context, not even trying...
Black in the middle is the only one who really tried, even that's not saying much tho.
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>>10930862
Right, this calls for an armchair psychological analysis
>my crossdressing
You're in her direct sphere of influence. If she didn't raise you to think crossdressing is ok, there's also no reason she'd assume she can see your motives for it. At least not any good ones
>le unquestionable art
To the untrained eye and looking on the outside, it's beyond comprehension. After all...it MUST be serious art. That's why it on TV for Pete's sake!! They're professionals! Cheap deference to "authority", I wouldn't worry about it too much
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>>10931010
well she does know the overlycomplex spiritual reason for why i do it and i think i have a better reason than these losers who are really only doing it to stay relevant at this point.
I also think it's not weird to have a spiritual reason, i mean she certainly has her fill of reasons for the most random things
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All these posts where folks are worrying, "my family can't find out and "they'll think I'm weird" throw me for a loop. Yeah it's obvious why, I don't discuss crossplay much either. At the same time, everybody's got those simple conversations they remember from years and years ago
>be me, little kid in the car with dad and sis
>Le Jonas Brothers on the radio
>Why do girls like them so much? I don't get it
>Well son, they're kinda girly themselves. They like that sort of thing
I wonder how many other lads had a talk like that, since the majority still think they need to be roidmonkeys
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>>10916308
Men (or traans women often, desu) have to use the men's bathroom or get on a SO list. Truthfully, if youre a woman, you'll probably get off easy, but i'd still recommend the girl's bathroom. That's definitely the "normal" thing to do in this situation.
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>>10907099
hi! There's a con coming soon. I wanna be cute/hot (though not enough to get kicked out :p), but I don't know what to go as. Please help. I have 2 weeks, ish, and i'd like to make my own, but I'm also kinda broke-ish, so anything SUPER elaborate seems unlikely. I want to be androgynous-feminine, but not masculine. Pretty much anything in that scale is fine. What are some good characters to go as?
I really appreciate the help :) Sorry for the newfag-style question.
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>>10932758
You're going about it from the wring mindset. Cosplay should be done from a love for the specific character. Please abstain from posting until you turn 18.
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>>10932764
I love lots of characters, I just want ideas so I can see one and be like "oooh hey theyre cool!", its not just random.
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>>10932758
Do you regularly make your own costumes? Cause two weeks is cutting it close, even if you know exactly who you wanna go as, to be quite desu
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>>10932758
sage his ass
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>>10932937
Usually I do, but I think I can cut it close if I save a bunch of time by doing stuff like modifying vests/etc rather than doing 100% tailoring myself. I'm tentatively working on something for testament. I've got most of the stuff required for something basic, at least.
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>>10932758
This is a hard question to answer without knowing your body type, looks, sewing/crafting skill level and taste in anime. Also, what >>10932764 says.

But if you really just want to pick something for how it looks, here are the most popular shows airing right now:

https://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=airing

Just google images from each title and see if there's anyone you want to dress as.

Also keep in mind you only ever get 2 of the following 3: Fast, Cheap, High Quality.

I have made costumes in two weeks before. I just didn't sleep and overspent. Good luck.
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The OP image inspired me to try out Chisato cosplay. I thought the skirt came in all grey, though after looking closer i realise that isn't the case. No matter! It'll be fun
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Don't know if anybody else can relate, but I've been working out since the start of this year and I've put on a bit of muscle now.
I'm still slim and I'm happy with my body now, but now I feel like my upper body is too wide and masculine now (mainly the chest, shoulders, traps, and delts). Is it over for me or are there any other slightly masculine crossdressing bros here who still do this? I don't wanna slim down but I don't plan on gaining any more, just maintaining.
I'm 5'5" and 135 if that's any help...sorry for the blogpost/rant/whatever
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>>10933648
I can't offer advice but you sound cute, please be my gf (male).
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>>10933648
5'5 / 135# sounds fine. Keep your shoulders & arms covered, and compensate for wider shoulders withe larger breasts and wider hips. Congratulations- you are no longer a girl- you're a woman now.
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>>10933748
Will do, that's reassuring so thanks! Any suggestions for hip padding? I'm still pretty new to this so I've been going super budget and judt padding my hips out by wearing some tight boxer shorts and putting small towels in them...
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>>10933756
there are yt tutorials showing people making these out of mattrass foam (foam rubber), carving them to size and then putting them under some tights. There are some women who do this too if they have to cosplay a character with very large hips.
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I'm still struggling to apply makeup, specifically around the eyes since I get too squeamish when it's so close. Any advice or do I just have to suck it up and get used to it?
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Bit of a long shot but I recently started getting really bad folliculitus on my thighs, which ended up giving me a bunch of nasty spots. They aren't itchy or anything but look more like acne scars now.
Has anybody experienced anything similar and ended up curing it? I tried antibacterial creams and those didn't work, and neither did KP solutions.
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>>10933985
ask a friend to do it
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>>10934529
Just order the male equivalent, really. Shoes are the one place I don't skimp out on, since cosplay shoes are both overpriced and awful. Better to stick with the "real" thing. Assuming you want to dress as Furina, these looks like they could be modified from a base pair pretty easily

t. basically the same shoe size
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>>10934529
find a maker that can make shoes your size. I am US12 and managing
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So i'm like 5.8 / 5.9, 125lbs, half asian half white and i have a round face, i've never been to a convo or cosplayed before but i'm thinking about either cosplaying as homura or madoka. Am i too tall to pull off madoka ? What should i do? I'm planning to invest 150 at most
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>>10935100
You wouldn't be the first even second tallest Madoka cosplayer I've ever seen
>What should i do?
Go for it.
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>>10935100
homura for easy mode
madoka for attention maxing
go wild
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>>10935103
What's the tallest you've seen? Was she/he a crossplayer? My height is common for women here at least
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>>10935115
Probably at least 6'2" crossplayer. Not even trying to "pass", mind you. Beard and hairy arms, but still shows you no one's holding you back
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What is considered the ideal height for a crossplayer anyways?
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>>10935119
"Ideal" height & build vary by character, but talented people can make a costume work for a wide variety of heights & builds.
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>>10935115
Back again after a weekend con. I hung out with yet another crossplay Madoka. Over 6 foot, had full face makeup
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>>10936008
okay got it, i will crossplay as madoker..
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>>10936283
We believe in you, Anon
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>>10935223
I second this. I'm 6'3" and am nearly done with my next cosplay, Ozen from made in Abyss, a character who is about 6'7". So I gotta make myself look taller, so platform boots and her unique hair style will get me there. There is no "ideal", just play with your proportions a little with padding and it'll look good.
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tl;dr did a thing
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does anyone have experience with Kumiho's breastplates?
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>>10936283
I've been crossplaying as Madoka in anticipation for the movie that was supposedly coming out this year. Go for it.
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how much does it take for leg hair to regrow to a socially acceptable length?
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>>10936520
what?
>not appreciating the fact that no/low-hair legs is better than hairy as fuck ones
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>>10936536
A decent number of people are shocked I shave my legs. It honestly seems like minimal effort, but then I remember oh right plenty of these non-committal crossplay guys won't so much as shave their beards
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>>10936536
>>10936537
I'll do it for the cosplay, but I don't want my flatmates to see me with shaved legs; I want to know for how long I'll have to keep wearing pants indoors
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Crossover (haha) with Feels thread cause I'm pretty sick of that thread anyway to be perfectly desu
>Finally found people to apply / teach makeup for me at cons
>Brilliant. Love it. Still one problem unaccounted for
>Cons move so fast you'll not notice a load of new stains from unknown, multiple sources until getting home
>I'm not the best stain remover as is
>Can't ask for help cause I'm put through the ringer over things that are frankly no one's fucking business
>Even the innocuous parts that don't look like women's clothing are a hassle
>Means I'm STILL harangued in an overly entitled tone, "Why did you let that happen?", "I don't have to have to help you at all you know"
>In b4 dry cleaners
>Even outsiders give me the side eye
>Case in point: alternations by a certified babushka (Russian talk radio in the background)
>Told her it was too short cause "a friend" bought it and passed it off to me
Guess I keep learning then. As you were.
>>10936549
That was my thought process too, and then I started getting compliments left and right from randos on the street. Decided the shaved look was permanent from then on
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>>10936713
why are you so bloody useless?
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>>10936734
When did you stop sucking dicks?
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>>10936713
tfw not getting random leg compliments on the street
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>>10936432
Awesome! You look good. The outfit looks good too. Did you make it or buy it?
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>>10936902

comissioned it
too little time to make my own things besides repairs ><
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Hello crossplayers of CGL, I'm working on my first cosplay and I want to do it as Yuri from DDLC. One one my few problems with this outfit is my very masculine hands. I was wondering if you guys have any ways of making my hands seem more effeminate?
Thanks in advance guys...
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>>10937244
Shaving or plucking the hairs and moisturizing them every day does wonders for mine. I wouldn't even call my hands hairy, but getting rid of those fine smoll hairs just does wonders for the looks
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>>10937244
Generally the only way to fix manhands is with gloves/fingerless gloves. Which of course Yuri doesn't have. But if you'd like to mimic smaller hands you could make it so the sleeves of the outfit go a bit over your hands. If you even get to hide your wrists and where your hands connect to your wrists they'll look just a little bit better.
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>>10936537
i'm about to laser them, along with my chest
i really hate my body hairs
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>>10937244
Do a "winter version"- add gloves, a scarf and a hat!
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First time crossplayer here
My plan is to wear a facemask (like picrel but with a wig) to cover my chin and beard shadow, but my eyes doesn´t look feminine enough to look good.
Any makeup advice?
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>>10937397
not seeing your eye all i can say is sharp eyeliner, heavy mascara (or fake lashes) and razor between your eyebrows to remove any vestigial unibrow and around the edges to clear out stray hairs, dont need to shave them off or anything.
Also some brighter "eyeshadow" colors on the inside of your socket around the eyes.
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any advice for a calf pad?
I already have made them for my hips, memory foam, looks great. But my lower legs look uncharacteristically skinny in comparison and i was wondering if you guys know any shape i should try or if there is a more comprehensive tutorial?
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>>10936432

aaannnd did another
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>>10908030
...finally had a brainwave on how to theme this costume.
I am going to be an allegory of Evropa (modern)
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>>10937468
I think you want a toned down version of this:

https://www.deviantart.com/mr-bluntertainment/art/Leg-Affects-Pattern-Download-LegAffects-Costume-193208589
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>>10937657
So it's pretty much just as i thought
Been layering different tights and pants until i get a desired result, this will help a ton, thanks!
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>>10937629
Other than the obvious symbols (globus cruciger, star-crown, sceptre or sword) what other symbols and details could i use? my idea was a noose around my neck and to wear garments around my arm like shackles to symbolise that europe is comiting assisted suicide? Maybe just the troon angle is good enough for social commentary?
>europe is not what it seems on the outside
>europe is fucking gay as hell
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>>10937940
...also my mom is impressed
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>>10937479
This is actually so fucking cool looking.
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>>10938005

im so happy with how it turned out!!!
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any recommendations for diet changes to clear up my face? It is very prone to acne and red marks, but I’ve been able to calm it down a bit with a daily skincare routine for the past year. Problem is, it still occasionally comes back in swings and a small handful of pimples stand out under makeup. I already often fast, but from the few foods I do eat, there’s often greasy stuff, because it’s convenient.
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>>10938163
Had some major issues with pimples and a greasy face for a long time, but it has calmed down a lot ever since I cut back on dairy products, sugary snacks and greasy food. Haven't banned them from my diet entirely, just reduced the amount and regularity or replaced some of it with better alternatives.

>I already often fast, but from the few foods I do eat, there’s often greasy stuff, because it’s convenient.
Fasting won't do much if you end up jojoing back to eating unhealthy food. Try to put together a diet that is sustainable in the long run. Depending how intense your acne is, food allergies may be a possibility a well. I think a first step would be journaling your daily food intake and when you have more noticeable breakouts. It may help with finding the culprit in your diet.

Oh, and make sure you drink A LOT of water or tea . It's "boring", but helps with you skin health as well. Aim for 1.5 to 2 liters just from drinks, water intake from food not included.
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>>10938193
How did you cut back on sugary and greasy foods? What alternatives did you go for?
>I think a first step would be journaling your daily food intake and when you have more noticeable breakouts.
I’ve never actually thought about journaling it, thank you. I’ve gotten kinda hopeless with 3 months until my next con, so I’ll get on it asap.
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>>10938163
For me its sugar. I've had to completely cut out sweets like cookies and candy because it makes me break out so much
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I have a bunch of ingrown hairs and dark spots from what I assume are scars on my legs because of those.
Is there any fast-ish way to get those to clear up? I' exfoliating and moisturizing and using glycolic acid and salicylic acid cleanser but I don't know if it'll work.
I wanted to wear a bunch of cute skirts but my legs are stopping me and it's really stressing me out....
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>>10938338
Ingrown hairs are probably one of the biggest obstacles for a dude to have well-shaved legs. Personally I just shave under really hot water with a really hot razor and it tends to prevent ingrown hairs.
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>>10938363
I've been getting laser surgery to stop this mess entirely which I've heard will work out in the end. I really only shave the day before I have to get my laser surgery done, but I'll keep a note of that and use a fresh razor each time.
My only concern now is I have a bunch of dark spots now from what I assume is postinflammatory hyperpigmentation so I have no idea how long it'll realistically take for me to have completely smooth legs like I did last year.
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>>10938338
You can always use skin colored pantyhose until that goes away
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Does anyone know where to find a decent quality bunny suit? And tips on sizing/measuring appropriately for one for a guy?
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>>10939436
Second this. I'm getting really tired of badly sized AliExpress ones.
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>>10939436
genuinely for the main piece, just find a strapless or invisible strap one piece swim suit that you think looks nice. everything else on a bun suit is just different pieces like tights, heels, cuffs, ears, you can get everything off amazon or etsy for nicer
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>>10939444
Do you have an example of this kind of look? Because I can't picture it looking right in my head
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>>10939444
What awful advice. Real bunny suits are structured which is why cheap ali ones are bad. A swimsuit will look worse and while Amazon is bad, Etsy is the worst place for "high quality" anything. Is this bait?
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>>10939495
I knew that advice sounded off
Swimsuits look nothing like bunny suits
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>>10939436
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>>10939495
No it wasn't bait because I did it myself and am happy with the result, incase anyone felt like doing similar
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>>10939728
You should actually show the results then because it doesn't sound good
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This will be my first time trying crossplay out and I just wanna have fun at home for now.
any apps or filters that do a good job with feminizing pictures?
curious to see how I'd look once it arrives and I take some.
I'm doing Sparkle
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>>10938846
Just wanted to give an update but it works well, thanks for the suggestion anon.
I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner. My legs probably won't heal completely honestly but at least now I get to wear cute skirts and thigh highs and stuff again.
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Been adjusting my padding i figured out that women have their arms resting on their hips at an angle naturally if they keep them close together, their arms don't just droop down, so i made the padding wide enough to accomodate this i dont know if it's too ridiculous or if it passes.
Forgive pic quality black clothes and shitty lighting i need to get a proper lamp and backdrop.

Nobody wants to celebrate haloween and i am very sad right now
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>>10940024
...also reporting that this is now considered an "icky and weird" kind of costume as of (i assume??) like 6 months ago and the only reason i can guess as to why is because of the internet and americanization. FUCKING HATE THIS GLOBALIST HELLHOLE ALL THE THINGS I LOVE ARE JUST GOING AWAY ONE BY ONE
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>>10940024
Looks pretty good to me- maybe slightly wide in the hips, but overall very realistic.
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>>10940027
???
Care to elaborate anon? Why would this be icky & weird?
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>>10940055
i don't know?
coomers? troons? i just started noticing that in general everyone now has aroe negative view of crossplay, which wasn't present 6 months ago.
>>10940054
I think it looks reasonably good, doesn't look unrealistic (see picrel) anything less and boyposture shows too much and i need to put an active effort to hide it.
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>First family Halloween party I've ever been to on Saturday
>Debuted crossplay to most of them
>No complaints, fun times had by all
>Realize I lost my phone the next morning
>Make two trips back to the area
>It's sitting in the fucking street over a mile away, somehow without a single crack
5/10, would halfway recommend
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>>10940065
It's not a recent thing, some people have been hating on crossplay forever. They're just homo/trans/pseudogyna -phobic. They've always been around and sadly, always will be. Ignore them.
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>>10940119
well, most who complain are just complaining about me and are biting at what they think is easiest, but i have heard honestly unnecessarily aggressive things about crossplay from people who dont know i do it and i can just hear the "i am on my phone for 12 hours a day" in their words. Never their own opinion on the subject, for some reason.
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>>10940159
good news, nevermind my sulking. my not terminally online friends are still normal and recognize crossplay as the noble Alexandrian tradition that it is.
Gonna be a good one. Gonna be the best dressed, as uzhe.
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>>10940171
i think i did the padding well did some adjustments and glued on the extra bits perfectly (spent an hour measuring) but it still has the tendency to look wonky and im pretty sure thats cause of movement.

is there a solution or will i have to accept it?
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I have never done crossplay before. I'm in the process of hitting the gym and dieting to slim down in the coming months, but I am a guy who is presently hairy as a gorilla with a wide jaw and wide shoulders. I want to cosplay as Hatsune Miku because fuck it, might as well give it a try. I know nothing about makeup, waxing or anything remotely to making myself looking softer and feminine. I'm going to read up on the Google doc, but I figured I'd shoot here if anyone happens to have any off-the-cuff recommendations like with videos for learning makeup if it's necessary. Contacts seem interesting but I've never worn any in my life. I've zero knowledge about wigs, nor pricing for any of that sort of thing. This is Step 0 of the effort. What am I in for, physically and financially? Is it doable within a month and a half to go from hyper-masculine to good enough? I don't want to try to trap hard or anything, but just to do the cosplay justice and not do too terribly a bad job of it.
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How do I keep long wigs untangled, and how do I untangle them?
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>>10940277
do you have a close female friend?
you can ask her to help if you just want to do it once
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>>10940279
pour boiling water over it then comb.
hairs will pull out, don't worry, wigs are extra dense for this reason.
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>>10940280
I do not, unfortunately; my friend group is particularly small. Also I feel like it'd be quite a lot to work on from the ground up to want to rope someone else into the process. Thank you though, Anon.
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>>10940279
Get a detangling comb work slowly from the bottom up. Don't pull hard. Wok on small sections at a time. You will probably need to restyle the wig or have it restyled by a hairdresser after you finish detangling it.
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We did it, Reddit! New thread, only three weeks away
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>>10940297
then use electrical tape for guides lol thats what i did.
>>10940172
had a great time, got showered with compliments, had drinks bought for me, only uncostumed zoomers were furious at me and giving me shit but fuck them.
who tf goes to a haloween party in just a t-shirt??

Got told that i am the best bitch in the club
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I don't know if this is the correct general for this but I'll at least ask and you can feel free to tell me to get lost if it's not
I'm planning to go to a Con with my friends early June next year. As someone who has been going to the gym for the last 10 years (but hasn't taken steroids), I'd say that I'm in decent shape, although perhaps 20lbs a bit too heavy.
My idea was to do a revealing cosplay and the idea came to me to try the Rabbit Hole Miku, but rather than trying to look convincingly female, my idea was to use the outfit to show off my physique (sort of like how a guy doing a regular shirtless cosplay would) because the outfit shows off your bare arms, shoulders, back and draws attention to your legs
I guess my question is: is this something that could work reasonably well or is it not worthwhile trying unless you are in absolutely phenomenal shape/enhanced on steroids. I have plenty of time to hopefully lose enough weight to make sure that I don't look bloated but I'd like your thoughts. I appreciate that this might not belong here, so feel free to respond how you wish.
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anyone else's "friends" now trying to pathologize you after discovering you do this type of stuff?
I don't get them, can't a man just be flambouyant?
Can't i just like the attention and can't i just look pretty every now-and-then? Do i need to be put in some faggy box of "identity"?
He also kept pestering me on "if i am gay" no nigga a gay man could never do what i did, too gay to know.

I honestly think these LGBT types or "allies" or whatever are incapable of understanding that other people can opperate on an entirely different system of truths and reality. I mean they literally could not just accept that i "just do this stuff" because "i like doing it" it's not that complicated. Just pissed off cause this dude practically called me insane in front of everyone because he can't comprehend my existence. He didn't even mean it in a bad way, it's like when a catholic tries to "keep you from sin" but worse honestly and lame because a catholic can at least accept that some people live in sin and the catholic is not concerned with literally trying to define who "you" are, going against your own wishes to make their brain not strain.
The way they all also word it is in such a way that saying "no" is to them like a double yes, they have an expected answer and they will dig hard to "find" it.
I'm honestly just disgusted at the absolute lack of respect for my individual autonomy.

Also "lost" LGBT "friends" who called me a transphobe and i kid you not literally just because i mog so hard that "a troon will see it and kill himself" like holy shit that's just a deranged thing to say.

I'm just a boy.

>>10940494
so i read your whole thing two times and i don't know what the problem is? Are you just nervous? i get cigarettes put out on me for doing this shit so it's not exactly for the un-brave, but you're also not trying to pass so idk. Here we talk about trying to pass.
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>>10940449
>freshly full body shaved
>freshly washed bed sheets
>maximum comfort
good shit senpai
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>>10940593
nayrt, imo beliefs around gender have definitely regressed in a way, people are just approaching it from a different side. A long time ago gays and lesbians were trying to get rid of rigid gender roles and tried to make more room for people to just be themselves, which is definitely something I agree with. For example a man doesn't have to dress very masculine all of the time and if he doesn't dress masculine it also doesn't mean he's not a man, etc.. You can crossplay and still be a man. If a woman wasn't presenting in a feminine way they would call that a tomboy or butch or whatever. It wasn't assumed that she was a man.
These days if a man crossplays or cross dresses (or simply if anyone doesn't adhere to rigid gender roles), a lot of people will immediately assume that you identify as the opposite sex. Some of them will insist you are trans, and if you say no then they will claim you're in denial/closeted trans or will even call you a transphobe if you tell them again that you're not trans.

I hate that some people only give you 4 options and you have to fit into one (or more) of these boxes. If you crossplay then you're either a transwoman, a transwoman in denial/closet, a homosexual or a fetishist. It can't be that you just enjoy cosplaying as your favorite character who happens to be the opposite sex, and think it's fun to transform yourself that way. They're always looking for an ulterior motive, it can never be that you just enjoy it for what it is.
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>>10940625
Crossplay is, no doubt, one of the most interesting ways to study sociology firsthand
>Learning quickly that barely anyone's gonna say anything if they have a problem
>The ones most likely to express disgust are little kids
>The eye opening moment when it clicks "What are your pronouns?" = "You are clearly male but I don't wanna risk making anyone angry by saying that"
>It's always the women who ask
And of course one of the biggest, as you're getting at
>Everybody in the west will preach that "You need to be yourself and not care what others think"
>Be yourself, don't care what others think
>Heads explode in confusion and rage
Fun times, keep em comin
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>>10940625
gays are mostly the ones very pissed off at me, i don't get it. They take it up the ass, is that just not objectively weird and gross? they also shamelessly talk about it anywhere no matter, is it not weird to be on campus and loudly hear someone talk about that shit? why is that now "normal" but a costume is totally unacceptable?
i'm not exactly in the west-west, and the funniest thing is the nazi types absolutely loved the costume, taking photos, asking (good) questions, asking "what it's like to look like a girl". One literally suggested that i should write a report on the experience and send it to some university lol.
i think libtard types can be just as stuck up as "conservative" types, who at least recognize that whit i'm doing *is* old tradition, or at least is a form of art. libtard progressive types are incapable of accepting this, they just think "my views are progressive so i can't be a stuck up ignorant ass"
>>10940636
well dont have the time to explain the ethnic makeup of my city, but its always zoomers from a specific group (or those who interact with them) who threaten me with violence. To them i just say "you are in cityville, brother" they usually cant clap back at that one.
I got threatened with violence by this girl dressed like satan who gor really pissed off because she "identifies as a man", so that was an experience, or at least a sobering reminder that the west is marching on. They all just feel like massive tounge-biting egoists.
I'm just pissed off at the complete lack of respect for my individuality, by those who claim to be "pro individuality".
my parents raised a renaissance man, and if a man can't even play with his masculinity without feeling like he isnt a man then whats the point?
if im being honest, women love this shit so much and become so touchy that i forget about the costume and just start feeling like im more of a man than ever, like a sultan. Maybe im just weird but to me this reinforces my sense of being a man.
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>>10940639
Parts of the city can make a difference too. Like there's one popular venue (that I don't like) and it's all but guaranteed there'll be some drunken hecklers around
>girl dressed like satan who gor really pissed off because she "identifies as a man"
>the west is marching on
Quite a juxtaposition for at least three reasons. Not the least of which being the FtMs being a notably surly bunch
>if im being honest, women love this shit so much and become so touchy that i forget about the costume and just start feeling like im more of a man than ever, like a sultan.
R A R E and based beyond words. Nobody, no matter how many times they see it themselves first hand will ever believe, understand or accept this. It boggles the mind of all parties
>Crying buff wojak getting ignored by girls checking out the twink.jpg
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>>10940640
In nature, it's the male who is pretty to get female attention, not the other way around. I even wore feathers only from male birds to reinforce this.

I mean its that damn easy its like the women were under a spell for me, couldnt stop staring, couldnt resist the urge to touch
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>>10940640
also what 3 reasons i am too bumpkin mindset to ever actually understand those people, their worldview just does not apply here.
The safest place for me to go to was this boomer bar, everyone there loved it, socialism made the boomers into party animals and they all loved that in 2024 AD at least someone was messing around and being avant-garde in the way they were. got drinks and ciggies for it. Like i said mainly terminally online zoomers object, but thats probably because they attatch unattractive stereotypes to me.
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>>10940643
Well, yes. It's called Peacocking for a not Peaheaning right. A largely lost art.
>couldnt resist the urge to touch
I know this feel well
>>10940669
Someone is free to be themselves by
>dressing as Satan
>Identifying as a man lacking in Y chromosomes
>getting angry at someone also openly being themselves
"The West marches on". Boomers have mostly been amused or charmed in my experience
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So i decided to finally post here after lurking for months, i want to start Crossplay and have already two possible options, Morrigan Aensland or Yukari Yakumo as my first crossplay, i think Morrigan is a bit too daring for a first try so i'm leaning further into going as Yukari for my first time, given some of her outfits conceal a bit more skin than Morrigan's, that being said i set myself a goal of doing it in a year's time, started hitting the gym last august and managed to go down from 250 to 200lb in body weight ( have always been somewhat fat but have smaller shoulder span than average and a bit of soft/pretty face according to men and women around me) currently trying to swap most fat for lean muscle since i'm working with a slight deficit, problem is i'm 30+ Yo and i feel like i'll make a joke out of myself if i don't pull it right.

any advice on what sort of things should i include in my workout routines beside Squats and Hip thrusts and what should i keep in mind or what tips/skills should i develop going into this as a first timer ( i'm trying to progress in body goals/weight so i'm setting march next year as a sort of alpha trial/checkpoint, if things don't go well at least i can continue working out and improving my overall body health )
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>>10940673
>I know this feel well
i like to pretend to be stoic but really i love being desired. Maybe i am too attention-deprived usually i just feel so intoxicated every time i think more people should celebrate costume holidays, in fact i think the state should send armed men to force people to celebrate. Send them like a month in advance and have them monitor the costume-making situation at every household.
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>>10940764
All cosplayers like attention to some degree. If we didn't we wouldn't cosplay. Or we wouldn't do it in public. Not everyone is like us, but we are all like each other.
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>>10940639
>i think libtard types can be just as stuck up as "conservative" types

Both of the extreme ends of the spectrum are very unpleasant to be around. On one side the excessively woke mob who is looking for things to get mad about (and will threaten violence if you misgender them or don't want to be in a relationship with a trans person), the other side sees anyone who isn't a very pale cis white heterosexual religious male as second class citizens who they would love to oppress.
Funnily enough there is plenty of misogyny on both of these extreme ends.

Maybe it's because you're not in the west-west, but I'm surprised the nazi types were not only civil but friendly even about your crossplay.
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>>10941002
>Maybe it's because you're not in the west-west, but I'm surprised the nazi types were not only civil but friendly even about your crossplay.

thats either because i am known in those circles so they do not assume weird motives, they recognized that it was indeed just a costume. I think the effort i put in is also why they gave respect.
In the past this type of stuff wasn't seen as weird, in other cities (that i have visited during one of these festivals) about half of the men are in dresses of some kind. I don't really know the underlying logic, but it could be as simple as they dont know the pathologizing terminology the woke types know so they dont attatch percieved demons to me.

i am also recognized as an artist in those circles so that means i get to do whatever i want.

It's also not about skin color here, religion, yes, but we get more specific and ethnicity and dialect are king. Loads of them are from the region i am from so we are brothers in our lack-of-fitting-in here. I do get discriminated against based off just my accent so we stick close no matter what. We are also more laissez-fare than the rest of the country so we usually just dont care.

>Funnily enough there is plenty of misogyny on both of these extreme ends.

i personally think its extremely backwards and sexists to think gender is literally just surface-level vanity. Even hitler would cringe at how backwards that view is.
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so idk where to post but recently i had the experience of a 50 year old fag hitting on me.
wouldnt even be a problem if it was someone roughly my age. But no it had to be this fucking bald skeleton.
I mean at first it was nice, danced the viennese walz, got to do the whole lean-back-bit and got to finally experience dance as the passive one, but then he kept insisting. I'd tell him over and over again and he'd just follow me around, always insisting that "it's not gay" and that "he knows what i want".

nothing bad actually happened, but he still ruffled my feathers. It was just an incredibly uncomfortable experience after a certain point.
Don't fucking get gay men, no wonder they get assaulted a lot, they just do not know when to fucking stop.
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>>10941150
...he kept putting his hand around my waist when i wasn't looking and i dont know how this guy couldnt figure out that the dude in makeup and a wig who's clearly enjoying the attention from the women would want his gaylord antique ass.
He was in my dream last night, same forced smile, same working-class accent, same bald head. Same emotion too, like a fire alarm was going off inside me.

Gay men hit on me a lot in general and i just dont fucking get them, they just do not understand what "no" means. Seriously no wonder violence is common against them, no wonder they never tell the full story when it does happen. I dint get them, i was clearly being very uncomfortable and agressive, yet he kept on dronining about how "youre just shy" no nigga im disgusted.
Just such an incredibly alarming experience even tho nothing happened.
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>>10941150
>>10941152

Well, not to be a dick but if I'm getting the scenario right your first mistake was indulging his request to dance, much like a vampire in fiction needing your permission to step into your home you agreeing to dance was tantamount to that.
He was definitely testing boundaries and had put his foot on the door, most cases you continuously rejecting him until his desistance was the second best thing to do, first would have been to shoot-down/refuse his request from the start in a firm and polite manner, Guys like that tend to be persistent because they perceive you as an opportunity to display sexual dominance, ergo haver of an hyper libidinous ego( degenerate ) and total power creep.
Learn from the experience and move on, don't dwell too much on it or it will become a trauma fixture in your mind, he was being a pest but you shook him off and know better now
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>>10941186
wouldnt call it "traumatic", had genuine traumatic experiences before. This one is just alarming.
i was being polite at first but after a certain point i just started getting pissed off more than anything.
There is really only one reason why i was open to dance with him yeah.
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What's a good single makeup tool for complexion? I don't need all a bunch of stuff, just a good single primer or foundation.
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>>10941152
That's a stupid reason to suggest violence against gays is justified. I hope you realize that the behavior you describe is exactly what some straight men do to women, and that there are gay men who don't engage in this behavior.
By your logic that's a reason to beat up straight men.

Crossplay or not, enjoying attention from women does not make you straight.

>>10941186 is completely right. You have to stop thinking you have to dance with people in order to be polite if they ask you to dance. You can reject them politely. You don't owe them an explanation either. Heck it would be best if you don't give a reason for why you're rejecting them. The type of guy who has the audacity to hit on people 20 years younger and far more attractive and who don't take no for an answer is going to see it as a negotiation if you give them a reason.

I'm not saying you're responsible for his behavior. He was a creep who did not respect your boundaries after you made it clear you were done with the interaction. But for your own sake you have to nip it in the bud by rejecting them from the get go. Just don't entertain them.
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>>10941201
Anything from Kryolan, or if you want "daily wear" makeup Max Factor Pan Stick or Revlon Colorstay
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I wanted to try wearing a high leg leotard/bunny outfit, but I've noticed that my bulge in the front is a big distracting
Google says that a dance belt is the best solution, but considering how high leg the leotard is, I'm assuming that the fabric from the dance belt is going to be visible from the back, which sort of kills the appeal of the outfit in the first place. Is there any way to get a more "revealing" dance belt or even other solutions to the bulge issue?
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>>10941266
If you want a piece of clothing to help with "tucking", the proper one is a "gaff". I've never used one, always just used tape. A dance belt will do the opposite of what you want- they're like push-up bras for men. Like a soft codpiece.

Like I said I've always just used tape for tucking. There are a number of techniques, so if one doesn't work for you try a different one. I wish I had a good tutorial or two to point you to, but I seem to have lost part of my archive to file corruption... =(

My advice if you do decide to tape is to trim all the hair down there very closely- 1/8" long or so. I don't recommend shaving- that can lead to ingrown hairs. Use medical tape, not duct tape or gaffer's tape. It should never be uncomfortable or painful. If it's not comfortable, stop and undo it immediately.

Also, some guys (like me) don't have a completely flat stomach. I use a small wedge of foam rubber to taper from may stomach down to my crotch.

Good luck!
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>>10941336
Thanks for the response, anon. I'll look into the tape approach, then. That does sound like it might be able to assist.
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>>10941210
well im not acting surprised i did bring it on myself, i did want to dance and nobody else heeded the call.
Not even the women (tho they dont know how to dance usually)
idk in retrospect he was giving real "my wife will hate this hehe" vibes.

i wouldnt be so pissed if he was roughly my age, my issue is that it just had to be the 50 year old midlife crisis.
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>>10941337
I'm not knocking gaffs either. I never tried one out, but they might work for you.
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I missed being cute bros, i used to be able to pass with a wig and eyeliner, time is not kind to crossplay frogs
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>>10941654
It's always a good time to feel cute in our new thread, fren >>10941676
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>>10941677
only with filters nowdays sadd



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