>>10917597
Is the blonde one a troon or? There's some white girls who can pull off idol looks but wow she looks so out of place, big and awkward.

>>10917597
Will I see any gulls at their show tomorrow?

>>10917825
she looks fine. she just looks tall in comparison to the other members who are really short.

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Stupid question but how did she blow up the way she did? It feels like she’s in every LA event

>>10917955
because she pretends to be a loli as a grown adult woman and moids and weeaboos eat that up

>>10917955
Because of all the degenerates and neckbeards and people who’ve never heard of hygiene or deodorant hyping her up. She’s super overrated and people calling her an ‘idol’ are wrong. She’s a cosplay dancer, but not an ‘idol’ really. There’s a huge difference between an idol and a person dancing around in some costume stuff.

>>10917961
God i regret not jumping on that and getting those neckbeard buxx.

>>10917970
exactly. She is a good dancer though unfortunately and she IS good looking, but I can't with the loli shit.

>>10918094
It’s like she’s purposely doing that stuff at this point jfc…. I’ve also been to one of her events on accident once and I don’t think anybody in the crowd knows what a shower is. Nonnie was right about the stench and hygiene stuff.

Thank you for making a new thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEftcw6lfB0
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>>10918195
Featuring a turkey-necked middle aged man in this vid sure was a choice. Can't even see his face but can tell from the neck/body that he's old af. They don't know a single young guy they could've used instead? Is it one of their dads? Weird

>>10918335
I'd love to hear about what you've accomplished in life lmfao

>>10918335
he just looks like a tech dude, and is probably around the actual age of the members. The more neutral he looks the better as the viewer, esp male, can insert himself as the chatacter. You sound 12 lol.

>>10918335
Get off TikTok and go outside for once

>>10918342
>>10918377
>>10918457
t. butthurt scrotes, probably look as bad as the moid from the video

>>10918459
You done being a white savior for internet brownie points?

>>10917825
No, none of them are
>>10918335
I think the actor is probably their regular photographer

>>10918342
>>10918377
>>10918457
Hope you get help for your daddy issues. Supporting gross postwall moids on the internet won't make daddy love you more

>>10918800
Go touch grass

>>10918800
You just sound jealous that he's in a position you wish you were in ir something. Like this is cgl, the idol thread at that, mostly non-moids here and if there is a moid they usually make weird comments about people's appearances. You must be the real moid.

[Kaigai Idol News Roundup]
>Non Sweet completed their first one man live. Will appear at Tokyo Idol Festival as guests of their producer SHUN. Full album release later this year with existing singles and 3 new songs.
>Paida joining Babybeard tour as opening act in Australia.
>Multiple aussie idol groups are also getting featured in the Babybeard tour.
>Phoebe is now fully into the 2.5D dual identity with her Ami Amami frog vtuber persona. Planning multiple appearances at various cons.
>Former australian idols Gumi and Ria are living in japan performing as the duo Crazy Fantasy.

>>10919275
Thank you for the update!!

>>10919275
thanks slowtaku !

>>10919275
Don't forget.
>Berry-chan illegally working in Japan on a tourist visa.

dead community

>>10919725
Could you explain this? How do you know she’s performing illegally? /genq

>>10919725
the scrap money underground idols make is barely enough to even be considered getting in trouble with the law. There is no way she's making taxable income.

>>10919275
cant wait to see paida being awkward as fuck while talking on stage once again. how did she even make it that big with those looks and that random ass attitude she has going on

>>10920219
Aw someone's projecting

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>>10920219
I think Paida is incredible. I love her music. Her stage presence is okay, and I wish she polished her choreography more, but just the fact alone that she is a hobbiest who can sing while dancing without sounding super out of breath is impressive to me. She isnt a professional, so its unfair to hold her to that standard. Her passion and love for her work is so obvious in everything she does, I cant help but root for her.

>>10919275
A bunch of kaigai idols performed in Japanese within the past few weeks:
>Berry performing at 2 taibans
>Marmalade, J from Aquarius, Pan Ranger, and Steffi featured at ADEN’s last live in Japan
>Wooly performing at a taiban

>>10920302
>A hobbyist
She is literally signed to Fake Star and is doing this on a professional level.
It’s fair to say she needs improvement on stage. It’s hard when she only performs a few times per year. I hope she’ll tighten up her stage presence while touring.

>>10920219
people relate to her awkwardness because they find ut endearing and are probably awkward too.

>>10920302
it's not her hobby because she does this full time. she doesn't work at a day job and uses all her time for idol content. which is surprising why her stage presence isn't more tight and more confident with all the free time she has.

>>10920302
the amount of clout she has is a bit overboard though honestly. i dont vibe with her at all but i guess thats a crime to say in this community now. there are much better dancers and better vocalists than her, more good looking performers with greater stage presence and music is arguable. her music is nice but i cant bring myself to like her much

>>10920320
well fair but thats not the point of being an idol

>>10920332
it is for jpop! maybe in kpop where everyone is a robot its not cute to be awkward, but in jpop? yes. i don't know how people miss this distinction.

>>10920314
did anyone see any of these performances? how were they?

>>10920356
k-poppies have irreparably damaged the overseas idol community.

>>10920332
the point of being an idol is sharing your growth journey with an audience.

objectively, it would be nice if paida did get better stamina and confidence for lives. however, ultimately not everyone will appeal to everyone. she deserves her success because she has a clear artistic vision for her work and has been consistently working on idol stuff since the mid 2010s.

I think her success and other idol's success who you think are better can co-exist. so for the ones who tou think deserve more recognition, be a better fan and push for them to grow too by sharing their content more and giving them supportive comments and more engagement.

forgive me i don’t know how to type on this site all that well. but i did see some small idol cover groups in a convention i went to recently and i’ve completely fallen in love with it all. legit all of it, from the audience having light sticks and cheering the group on, to the dance and outfits of the group. i want to dive head first into everything but don’t know how/where to start. any ideas/help? i want to get into the community in every way possible.

>>10920593
Get on discord and join the international idol network (IIN). You can find the link to join through their Instagram.

>>10920593
Here’s a list of servers you can join

The idol list
Luminary idol network
Free Idol Project
Tri State Idol Union
Idolconnect
Idols Galore
Texas Idol Directory
Southern Idol Directoru
Server for NWIF

You can look these up on Instagram and they’ll pop up and the invite links should be in their bio somewhere! Hope this helps!

>>10920219
what attitude? she's literally so friendly. Awkward at times, yes, but she takes her music seriously.

how do we feel about the new perry/prismic may/reso vi idol trio? charmaffect is a dumb name but I can forgive them if they're good

they've only announced perry so far but the color scheme and the fact that the three of them have been doing cover videos for a while, it's obvious

>>10921018
agreed Im not a fan of the name charm affect. I also was able to guess who the three members were. Probably just another temporary 'group' that will eventually disband in a year. Also what's with the AI thing on their logo post?? Did they use AI to come up with the logo??

>>10921030
I really hope they can stick around. I really like May and hope she can have another long lasting group to be in to show her skills more. I also like Vi more post-reso. Perry is someone I'm a bit unfamiliar with, but I'm gonna assume that they're at the sane level as May and Vi.

>>10921046
*same, although same level of sanity would be good too kek

i really want to become an idol and i can already sing, dance and have good stage presence from my background in competitive dance and music theater. i however dont have an idea how to market myself in this community and what to post in what quantity. i know idols with only selfies/images or only covers on their profile. what do you guys think is the most effective way to lead an idol profile without a gimmick character?

>>10921116
Just create actual content (dance/song covers/music)and follow the example of popular idols and you're already way ahead. But don't expect to get a bunch of followers quickly. Many idols in the community have been building their audience for YEARS.

I've recently noticed how paidas singing in some songs sounds like she's yelling

>>10921018
all ive learned from this debut is that vi has gotten uglier

>>10921256
She now looks your typical pride/nonbinary/liberal newgen.

>>10921273
They also use all pronouns and are non-monogamal. A conservative's nightmare lol

I think I'm looking forward to Metro rocks lineup more than the idol fest...but personally I'm tired of cosplay groups.

>>10920267
what is that shirt

>>10921448
It’s the special edition of the anime girl art T-shirt they’re selling that they wore at their one man live. Each member had a version with only themselves on it that they wore during encore. I really wish they sold them like that as well, you could make a cute oshi outfit with it.

>>10921277
probably everyone except cosplayers themselves are tired of cosgroups in idol shows. they just arent idols period.

>>10920594
>>10920621
Are you serious?
I just want to enjoy this as a spectator/audience, but I have to interact with others?

>>10921801
You said you wanted to get into the community and yet you don't want to actually see and speak to them??? Youll have much better luck finding events/new content and etc through the discords and Instagram pages than asking an anon board.

>>10920593
Go to Japan and experience actual idols first. If you need help on this, maybe visit /jp/ and look up any indie events, although, in the square outside of akihabara station around 5pm you will always find an idol looking to take you to a show.

This way you know going in on any "kaigai" event how much more amateur and sloppy things will be. Afterwards, just go twitter/instagram and search for your area+idol and see where it leads you. From my general experience with discords, dont join them, unless you want to catch cancer.

>>10921985
just say you have a japanse fetish

>>10922101
Not even a fetish, it's just the truth. NAYRT but idols are an industry in japan, and being an idol treated like an actual job. Western indie idols can't compete to a real active industry.

non sweet's new song is giving.... chat gpt generated lyrics

>>10921985
Speaking of which, what is this general doing here and not over at /jp/ anyway? Do they raeg when the idols aren't Japanese?

>>10922205
by no definition do oversea idols belong on /jp/. You might as well start an dub voice actor thread and see how well that goes. The cope you're coping for is /mu/

>>10922205
honestly not really sure why either but they don't really have a more fitting board to post in that wouldn't tear them apart. I just kind of see it as a containment thread.

>>10921487
They’re all also groups, no original soloists besides Auracle and Illixcite which we’ve seen in show after show with Next Stage… I’m getting really tired of the same cosidol groups getting in and then bringing very average performances

>>10922286
If we could bring back any sense of competition in the community then maybe groups would try a little harder. I feel like that's the only reason holmat tends to be on a bigger scale is because it's not only advertised/encouraging to have bigger ideas but also is very competitive to get into with good perks. All we have as far as original group acts goes is like you said...Auracle, and illixcite(whomst finds their way into working with every damn organizer and therefore apparently gets stage rights). And then we seem to now have "charm:affect" but they're not even in any of the events for Metrocon(that I've seen) so I wonder where and what they will debut this summer. And then all the other original soloists are just in Metro Rock this year. I'm also delighted to see Elfoxu in the lineup. She's super talented.

>>10922290
I will say though there are some (very few) cosidol groups that do put on clean and professional performances and you can tell that they do put some effort in

>>10922107
so why compare them at all?

>>10922107
if you've actually followed Japanede underground idol culture more closely, you would see some shitty can't sing can't dance and lack charisma acts too. the only difference is that they are japanese are probably have an eating disorder to stay skinny all while trying to appease pedos cheering them on and feeding into incel fantasies

>>10922313
Examples?

>>10922330
Wait until you realize kaigai idols are the same exact thing and your moral superiority is crushed. You’re just as delusional as the weeaboo.

>>10922359
now show me kaigai idols with unhealthily skinny bodies who act like little children, have old male fans and can't sing/dance for shit

>>10922330
I've seen a fair share of shitty Japanese idol groups of girls that can't sing or dance. That doesn't change what I said though. In Japan, being an idol is a legitimate job with industry backing, culture support, and money. In America, it's an embarrassing hobby that gets you mocked.

>>10922387
people will mock you for anything against the norm. people like nonsweet, phoebe, paida, amuse, etc, there are plenty of people outside of the community who think what they do is cool and there are also people who think it's weird. being a kaigai idol isn't much different than being in a band. not all bands get industry support. a chika idol with no management and no label can't compete well in the huge industry in japan either. her parents or peers could still make fun of her and think she's weird for chasing that dream knowing that the future is unsure.

>>10922359
kaigai idols can suck and kaigai idols can be quite good. moral superiority where? this is all pop music operating at an indie scale. some people will suck and some people will be good. yeah, japan has a proper idol industry so people can get mainstream recognition, but it's not too different from the u.s. music industry where pretty much all big opportunities are controlled by corporate entities.

>>10922397
If you tell people you're in a band in the west, they'll know what that is. Tell people you're an idol, they're going to be confused. That's what I'm talking about as being the difference. Being an idol in Japan is a normal job, being an idol in the west is for the hardcore loser otaku types.

>>10922398
>but it's not too different from the u.s. music industry where pretty much all big opportunities are controlled by corporate entities.
it's totally different. you don't seem to realize how many more resources there are for indie musicians in japan than in large western countries. there's also no industry for kaigai idols to get into. this idol scene doesn't exist outside of japan. there's no point.

>>10922400
NAYRT, this is true...but not impossible. You can get success doing just about anything online these days. As long as you're consistent and make quality content, you can gain a big enough following to become "influencer" level. There's an audience for everything, you just have to find it. And be good at what you do of course. Easy? Not at all. But possible. Although Berry got catapulted into the public eye in an aggressive way, she got enough fans now to help find her projects and make money on TikTok.

>>10922406
fund*

>>10922399
ok so then just say you're an indie pop singer. I mean look there are ways to make people not think it's cringe if you yourself are not cringe. you clearly see zero potential in kaigai idols or indie idols

>>10922400
kaigai idols are turning into indie idols with english songs and appealing to english speaking audiences. while there is no idol industry, people can make their own cult followings happen. things have grown SO much in the past 10 years so things can only grow more.

>>10922409
this does not result in any real success. there are no real examples of this. idols in japan can go pro eventually, there is a ladder to climb.

>>10922424
so that means all the more reason to cheer on high quality kaigai idols so that they can reach success. thank goodness you aren't a kaigai idol yourself because your inability to see things creatively and lack of cheerfulness would make you truly unsuccessful and unappealing.

>>10922408
An indie pop singer is not an idol. You're missing the point.

>>10922399
i don't know about it being "normal." being an idol in japan is 100% pandering to otaku too.

>>10922428
oh right idol is basically being an imaginary girlfriend to pedos and incels. thank god kaigai idols don't have to pander to that crowd solely

>>10922430
yeah and your everyday Japanese person is not going to understand wotagei or understand the ins and outs of idol culture.

You guys seriously underestimate how normie liking idols is in Japan

why does paida have to constantly advertise herself as a female POC for people to pay attention to her? Let your work speak for itself

>>10922489
and shove her tits into our screens

>>10922473
idols are broad though. some people are casual listeners because idol music like sakurazaka46 is mainstream, but not all are die hard wotaku. die hard wotaku still have stigma against them, reasonably so. liking idol music and being a serious idol fan are different

>>10922539
i guess you could compare it to listening to taylor swift's music and being a swiftie

>>10922489
she called herself dark skinned but she's brown. she doesn't have the same struggle as actual dark skinned black people. really goes to show how distant she is from her own community of people.

>>10922493
Fr. I wish she would make different content online other then just her lip syncing to her own songs with weird click baity captions. She's gonna fizzle out quick if she keeps this up.

>>10922608
The most white savior and privileged
hands typed this

>>10922489
gets the black/lib audience

>>10922493
gets the coomer audience

maybe she hates it herself, but money talks

>>10922717
Oh okay so what you're saying is she's just a sell out.

>>10921018
>>10921030
pointless to support them, bet they won't even last next year.
anything that may does never lasts kek
its funny how back then shit-mic announced they were making a comeback, and never did

>>10922762
>"Shit-mic"

LMAO took me a second. Totally forgot about prismic even saying that. The one thing prismic did have was a few attractive members. There's nothing appealing to me with may, perry and vi as a group. And their aesthetic so far has felt bland. I don't feel any spark with this group.

>>10922762
Prismic was good though. It must have been some falling out amongst the members because I see all the former members hanging out on instagram all the time without her. I think Perry and Vi compliment her well and they all match each others skills dancing and visually. The concept seems all right. I think Prismic's branding was stronger but I'm looking forward to the new group. I know it won't be cringe abd Florida is lacking non-cringe kaigai idol groups.

>>10922763
may is a problem, but she's not the only problem person in this group

>>10922852
not "bad" but just totally incompatible. People don't have to be villians/bullies/etc to have a fallout

love live brainrot gives people the idea that friendship triumphs all, but absolutely not. some people need to not work together.

>>10922290
So it's been revealed charm affect is debuting at yet ANOTHER idol event from Next Stage on Friday of Metrocon. Two hours long. Somebody stop next stage with these long ass events. Ain't now way anyone is sitting through that.

>>10922101
>Japanese fetish
Even if I did, which I don't particularly, the way the industry is handled is completely different and in a lot of ways better. They have over 30 years of idol culture which kaigai is barely capable of scratching the surface of.

I don't get the hostility, I'm just stating a fact that is incredibly evident should you ever attend a show over there. Things are just way more organised, the girls pretend harder and the culture is far more focused on pleasing the fans (while the fans focus on pleasing the idol) than in kaigai idol, where the culture is more about appeasing the idol and trashing the fans (and each other).

Kaigai mostly has been overtaken by tumblr-tier attentionfags that think that putting on a costume and pretending to be an idol will give them unlimited attention. I don't think that running an actual business occurs to half of them.

>>10922330
Groups like these quickly fall behind and lose all traction though, unlike in the kaigai scene, where you're stuck with them because the industry doesn't exist at all yet.

>>10922409
The only kaigai scene that seems to be churning out idol tracks in Japanese is the Aus idol scene.

>>10922903
Don't bother, other people in this thread are being obtuse and acting like 5 girls lip syncing at an anime convention is on par to a (popular) Japanese industry worth millions of dollars with thousands of talent participating in the creation of music, management of idol members, etc.

>>10922903
>>10922906
Kaigai idols are delusional for thinking they know the industry after performing one love live song.

>kaigai idol, where the culture is more about appeasing the idol and trashing the fans
It’s really awful how many kaigai idols treat their fans horribly. I’ve stopped supporting many kaigai idols due to how they snubbed me or other fans, meanwhile kissing up to event organizers and other idols.

It’s the reason why other kaigai idols make up most of the small crowds and support. The crab bucket mentality doesn’t help either.

Now watch someone call me a incel or making up excuses for mistreatment. Never fails in this community!

>>10922907
desu I’ve only seen a handful of kaigai idols that actually understand the culture. they’re the ones turning out crowds of actual wota.
>I’ve stopped supporting many kaigai idols due to how they snubbed me or other fans
I genuinely want to know who treated you so bad that you hate kaigai idols. What’s your story?

>>10922931
people need to name names because I've never net kaigai idols who were weird and rude like that. were they actual kaigai idols or dancers with wigs? those aren't idols, so I don't consider them representations of kaigai idols.

>>10922903
>tumblr tier attention fags

so you're a moid AND a boomer (with a japanese fetish)

>>10922903
damn if you were an actual idol fan, you’d know chika idols are notorious for trashing each other and hating wota.

>>10922946
Queen paruru said it herself.

But it is true that wota are more dovoted to idols, AKA, they want to date them. And idols play into it too, AKA, they make wota think they have a chance.

sounds like we have our own gal safari kek

>>10922948
the truth is that moids will cum to anything and are stupid as fuck. idols don’t even need to flirt, just being nice to them is enough to make these men think they have a chance. If you can’t pass that bar, I don’t know what to tell you.

>>10922931
You don’t notice it because you’re probably an idol who gets their asses kissed. Most of the community is like this toward fans who don’t have anything they can gain from.

Next event you go to, take note of how kaigai idols treat each other, event organizers, those they can gain something from versus normal fans who aren’t any of those things.

It’s the same story in the cosplay community.

>>10923086
AYRT not an idol and never said I didn’t notice how a lot of kaigai idols clout chase LMAO. I just tailored my support to the idols I like that give me consistently good interactions. I just want to know what kaigai idols fucked you up so bad that you don’t support any.

The only idol I hope doesn't get far is Marmalade. She originally hated on idols and said she was above idols and called Wota disgusting pigs. She also never interacted with people unless they paid her money. There was an event here in Brisbane called HAi Festival (yes the one that Paida is performing at) and they invited her to perform and she tried charging them over $2k to have her there. She left her group Melody Parade with no money and a dream to be a japanese aidoru and suddenly realised she aint shit in Japan. She performed at the same event Paida did where Paida made news headlines and everybody ignored Marmalades performance.

>>10923159
marmalade didn't perform at the same show as paida because she was not on the taiban flyer lineup

>>10923159
Her vlogs also make no sense to me. First she has a mental breakdown because of being broke and then shows us all that shopping and spending she does in japan. broke where? she seems so privileged and tone deaf to me

>>10923189
Literally just a rich white girl that hasn't had to think critically once.

WTF is the Midwestern Idol Union doing? Are they retarded? They seem to be trying to run a standalone event and trying to take cuts of the idols merch or something?

>>10923234
Source? Cause that's insane

>>10923234
Sounds like you’ve never had to run concert events outside of fantasy land idol festivals. It’s standard at any venue.

>>10917825
you’re a troon

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Why are all the idols that start drama and bully othet idols the ugliest motherfuckers

>>10923317
What the fuck am I looking at

>>10923317
Who is it and what did they do?

pastelkitsu from chaos squared - a brisbane duo jpop group that fell out of a old cosplay idol group
basically shes an awful person who thinks being an jpop idol that can be a proper job when she looks like that and cant even dance for shit
cant believe shes still trying kek

>>10923325
ya dawg i heard that she faked DID and wore a nazi ring? idk i also heard she was leaving used period products out and about when she was living with other people so

>>10923326
NO WAY what a grot

>>10923325
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>>10923327
okay this reeks of samefag agendaposting. nobody knows this girl or anything.

>>10923325
She also sells 50c lightsticks from aliexpress for 10x the price and says they're her own merch

>>10923328
Clearly u ain't from Queensland lmaoo this ogre been around the block

>>10923328
Just bc u don't doesn't mean other people don't unfortunately know her. She's going to be at CMC this weekend for the first time in a while. I think everyone in the community knows her or atleast knows of the shit she pulls. I'm p sure she stalked someone at sp?

whats with some idols being unable to say thank you or just completely ignoring support? youre not a superstar stop being so full of yourself when youre not nearly all that.

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>>10923332
>>10923331
>>10923326
>>10923325
once again, all samefag. whats your beef with this girl that you have to make several posts acting like youre different people? just post her once with context like a normal person.

>>10923333
name names

>>10923334
Nah boss the first post was me the other two were seiryou process kek.

>>10923241
They put an announcement in their Discord. Ill grab screens later.

>>10923340
paida, xflo, serenasongbird with her wannabe attitude, mimi from reso and some others. they almost never reply to comments with thanks or whatever, rubs me the wrong way no matter how big they are.

>>10923317
why do these whales think they become idols, looks like she will break the stage by doing a jump.

>>10923374
you're telling me that you looked at serena's content, liked it, and wanted to support her?

yeah you're judgement is really poor and I can't take any opinion you have seriously

>>10923381
i've never supported serenasongbird bffr. just because i call her out from observing her comment sections and stuff doesnt mean i fw her content in any way. barely anyone likes her content, but that doesnt mean we dont look at her account lmao

>>10923381
>you're telling me that you looked at serena's content, liked it, and wanted to support her?

NAYRT, COMEDY GOLD

>>10923385

NAYRT Okay but I get it sometimes looking at the trash is entertaining. Especially how she complains so much about doing so much and "for some reason not getting attention".

>>10923374
Tbf it can be overwhelming to individually respond to every comment you get, especially when you're popular enough to almost get 100 on every post. xflo specifically at least acknowledges comments with a like. I think that's fair.

>Ctrl + F "coom"
>1 result
definitely these whores has some work to do

>>10923397
They don’t think their whores but are quick to call each other whores. It’s really funny to watch!

>>10923375
It's the only thing you can sell when everyone is promoting body positivity and you have no talent

>>10923404
gtfo moid, literally no girls call each other whores as insults. most girls in this community are queer or don't care about getting moid's attention. that's partially why this community is so slow at growing since moid support would mean more financial support. but also, maybe it's for the better since men ruin everything and make everyone's life worse.

>>10923439
I wish there weren't so many trannies in the aus idol community it's so gross

>>10923450
Name names

>>10923439
NYART but what fantasy bubble do you live in? I hate moids to but bffr the catty behavior is that bad everywhere. Take off the rose tinted glasses.

>most girls in this community are queer
You make it obvious you’ve never interacted with the community once

>>10923457
most are queer OR they don't care about moid's attention. that doesn't mean there aren't pickmes who want moid attention but for the most part, most are queer OR they're cis het and don't feed into the male gaze and act like an egirl. practically every group has one or two queer members, for starters.

>>10923457
catty behavior exists but calling each other whores and sluts like moids stereotype girls fighting against each other like a 00s comedy written by a dude with a lesbian fetish, doesn't exist here

>>10923460
lmao people act like japanese/asian idols don’t have the same rate of queer people that western idols have. whats with this fantasy that asian people aren’t dirty dirty queers, dykes, fags, and trannies too?

>>10923468
If you’re going to talk shit give examples or gtfo moid

>>10923474
>talk shit
do you see a slur and immediately freak out? anon’s saying that idols that are queer women or trans exist in japan and that kaigai idols aren’t uniquely “tainted” by “wokeness”.

Does anyone know why so many idols in California lean into or encourage other idols to do pedobait/lolicon shit? Hamu, Strawberry Sunday, Asayoru, even Phoebe now with her other vtuber personal…
>inb4 JeAlOuS
Appealing to lolicons is objectively fucking disgusting.

>>10923487
Asayoru seems fine to me. What have I missed?

The common denominator between all of those acts is that they are asian/asian passing... so there's that.

>>10923484
Chill man I just want to know who the trannies are

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>>10923491
Sae, the owner of Asayoru, letting the others do their lolishit in association with her maid cafe business. Sae hyping Hamu up while she dressed like an elementary schooler complete with randoseru and filmed a cover of Lolikami Requiem in a public park next to a neighborhood.

>>10923491
Asian women are able to be idols and be appealing without appealing to pedophiles.

>>10923487
>Being scared of a body type
Lol

>>10923505
>body type
Nah, they can be as petite as they want. Most asian idols are. I have an issue with them using that to appeal to lolicon fetishes. Hamu and Sakurin branding themselves as “legal loli imoutos” when they’re grown women is nasty and those who enable them are worse. Sorry you’re so cumbrained that you think it’s ok to keep this loli fetish shit in the community.

>>10923487
If you hate it so much, call them out publicly. Make the twitlonger and google doc. Tag them and ruin their careers. Not the first time this community has done it over petty shit. Continue the legacy this community is known for.

>>10923508
To be fair, this information is all publicly available on Hamu and Sakurin’s pages. Sakurin’s old instagram handle used to have loli imouto in it iirc before she changed it. Asayoru has to keep a positive relationship with local performers but it is kind of weird that these idols that appeal to lolicon are faces of the SoCal kaigai idol community.

>>10923510
Not sure what Alexis has to do with this but I don’t think her career is “over” lmao.

>>10923514
If it’s publicly available, then there should be no issue gathering evidence and calling them out. If you genuinely believe it’s an issue, shouldn’t you speak up about it? Or are we once again all virtue signal talk and no action?

>>10923510
imagine living rent free in someone's brain like this

>>10923507
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/Twitter/
Here are some communities better suited to your tastes

>>10923515
NTAYRT People have already called them out for this locally and it’s why everyone mentioned except for Hamu toned it down. Also people can make their own choices about the content they post on their accounts. A lot of people in SoCal think it’s weird to brand yourself that way and it’s not really virtue signaling to say that it’s weird. Most normal people think pretending to be an underage girl for fetish reasons is weird lmao.

It’s really funny that when an idol people like is criticized for their behavior, it’s not an issue, it’s virtue signaling to point out, and it’s not worth it to talk about. Stay gold. Take it to lolcow.

>>10923523
Maybe instead of being all bark no bite, it wouldn’t be taken as virtue signaling. This community has issues with talking about problems, wanting to make big moves, but there is never any action.

Maybe DO something about it.


>>10923522
As a SoCal native, never came across this. It’s also not fair to speak for a majority of the community either. If people really thought it was weird, she wouldn’t receive the opportunities and video views.

>>10923524
AYRT Damn. Just my circles then. I don’t think >>10923487 wanted big sweeping changes. I think they wanted to talk about something they thought was gross. Why does everything need to be big changes? Can’t someone complain?

Public callout posts are over. People just compile their evidence and then send them to event organizers now. IMHO this is way more effective than a callout because the organizer can decide on their own without public pressure. I think it’s funny when event organizers decide on their own that there’s merit to a document and stop giving idols opportunities or even blacklist them, then people complain that the their reputation and careers are RUINED FOREVER.

>>10923529
We’re moving the goal post now. This community never changes doesn’t it?

>>10923531
>people complain
>”WELL THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT”
>people do stuff about it in a way that has results
>”NOOO YOURE MOVING THE GOALPOST!!!!”
Kill yourself, anon.

>>10923529
>People just compile their evidence and then send them to event organizers now.
>the organizer can decide on their own without public pressure.
this is really smart

>>10923534
So much for being the loving, supporting and accepting community

>>10923535
Does this actually work, though? I saw people *say* they did it on lolcow but I guess we’ll find out by next year by if certain groups and idols get opportunities.

Hi, as an event organizer, we see this as a red flag for the community, you and the person you’re reporting. If you do this, good luck on it not backfiring for the rest of your circle.

>>10923540
Event organizer for what event? Have you ever actually received something like that or do people just claim to send them on the internet?

>>10923542
NAYRT but I know someone who has sent in complaints to an organizer before. So I'm sure it happens.

>>10923542
Name who you are and I’ll speak out.

We also investigate these claims because 9 times out of 10 it’s accusations taken out of context or petty personal drama. If you think someone is harmful, make sure your report shows actual harm if they are a danger to real people.

>>10923544
> Name who you are and I’ll speak out. Ok. I’m one of the organizers for MIU. Your turn.

>>10923540
>>10923544
This reeks of NWIF staff. They can’t even ban someone who was legally convicted of stalking and harassment from their event, let alone idols with drama.

>>10923538
Word about Reso being divas and demanding too much got their opportunities limited

>>10923540
You just don't want to deal with your hurt ego when you find out that you made a mistake putting someone on your lineup.

People talk, that’s just how it is.

On top of attendees and other performers talking, organizers also talk to each other about their experiences with performers. If you make an ass out of yourself behind the scenes, staff WILL notice and choose to not move forward with you the next time you apply. If you really made an ass out of yourself, they’ll do that and tell their friends too. I’ve seen it happen time and time again.

In the case of Reso, it wasn’t just attendees and other performers talking. It was a case of staff and organizers seeing their poor behavior behind the scenes and passing that along to their other staff and organizer friends. One event after another gave them a chance and almost all of them had similar experiences until only Next Stage would take them.

That doesn’t mean that there isn’t places that won’t take chances on a performer or group that’s behaved poorly in the past. It’s just harder to come back from if you pissed away all your good will.

just move that dumb white bitch of the group, I bet her white ancestors are pissed rn lol..hope she fucking loses it.

>>10923584
Picks a Japanese name stfu u racist pos.

>>10923566
i have a feeling that certain organizers that use 4chan may have already made mistakes and already feel guilty kek

>>10923608
Unless there's a performer that puts other performers in danger (or isn't a team player), there's really nothing to be guilty about. If people can't put aside petty drama just because they have personal beef then I'm sorry you don't deserve the stage. People need to grow up.

>>10923610
reso wasn't even bad as performers, organizers talk shit about them bc they were unprepared. i was at akon and the worst that happened is they wanted a sound check to sing live and the organizers weren't prepared to do a sound check at all. all the performers were talking about it but only reso, paida, and melancholiah sang live so it didn't matter to us.

>>10923610
If performers are making drama at an event or around an events, organizers shouldn’t move forward with them next time.

I’ve also seen organizers reject idols on the basis of their behavior outside of events, like if they complain about being rejected or feel entitled to perform. Organizers just avoid the headache and choose not to work with them. For example, Serena Songbird is basically blacklisted from most events in her area for her entitled behavior online because organizers just don’t want to deal with that.

>>10923612

As someone who performed at akon that year, I remember some of the staff actually being really rude in the Discord before and in person during the event, especially if you weren't the guest group from Japan or Paida.

They kept promising a lot but would then get annoyed if you asked questions.
Nobody in my group said anything because we didn't want to ruffle any feathers.

>>10923626
That would absolutely bother me as a performer. It's also not weird or diva to request a sound check either. Event organizers should try to be as communicative as possible with their performers and make sure everyone feels prepared.

>>10923610
What do people even mean when a performers “puts other people in danger”? Is it just for creeps and people that have sexual assault allegations or does it apply to credible allegations of bullying/harassment?

How the ever loving hell did Hamu Cotton get a performance slot for AX?? After everything I’ve read on here, I don’t get how people are still supporting her. Especially with how she’s catering to certain kinds of ‘fans’.

>>10923816
The answer is obviously because of those certain kind of fans. It also helps that she does cosplay from popular series and is on top of dance trends. She has a big following. I don't like the loli-type shit she does but her getting a performance slot makes perfect sense.

>>10923816
You act like all she does is loli performances, but the real reason is she is diverse in her performances. Even taking a glance at her youtube page disproves your bias
https://youtu.be/1OQpZTtkCiw

>>10923840
>Even taking a glance at her youtube page disproves your bias
>Second video down is another cover of LoliKami Requiem, dressed as another loli character
>Most of these videos contain her cosplaying children and lolis or styling herself to look more youthful.
>Most of her Instagram reels are her doing LoliKami Requiem and her pinned posts are her dressed as child characters

>All of her branding is that she is a “legal loli” on all socials
Yes, she cosplays more characters than just lolis and children and does more dances than just LoliKami but you can’t say she doesn’t market herself to attract lolicon. It’s not bias, you’re just mad that people have negative opinions on her branding.

It looks like organizers are favoring skinny idols for their lineups and giving more opportunities to conventionally attractive idols. Which fat idols do you think will lose weight to keep their opportunities? Do you all think we’ll see more idols using ozempic to do it?

>>10923854
Fat idols have always been the most entitled and hard to work with. I wouldn’t work with them based on their work ethic.

>>10923854
>Which fat idols do you think will lose weight to keep their opportunities?
I think we’ll see any fat idol that doesn’t have being fat or body positivity as the center of their brand start losing weight. I’ve seen mid-size or already thin idols starting to make efforts to lose weight. My predictions are that we’ll see Paida and Pan slim down within the next year. Paida seems to have lost a little weight judging by her most recent artist photos. Idols like Berrybeanpie and Alexis will likely stay fat because of their “idol at any size” branding.

>Do you all think we’ll see more idols using ozempic to do it?
I personally think they should do it with diet and exercise instead of taking the easy way out. Plus, abusing drugs like Ozempic and Metformin when you’re not diabetic takes medication away from people that actually need it.

>>10923861
Name names and spill.

>>10923861
lol losing weight wont fix that
weight loss will just change a fat entitled cunt into a skinny entitled cunt

>>10923862
>I think we’ll see any fat idol that doesn’t have being fat or body positivity as the center of their brand start losing weight.
this i predict paida pan ranger and may

>>10923854
well honestly that makes sense. why should an ugly or overweight idol get in rather than an attractive one? this is the entertainment industry and audiences tend to want good looking people on stage.

>>10923861
just say berrybeanpie, alexis and pan rabger

>>10923882
>Pan Ranger
>Alexis
Anytime I’ve worked with either of them, they don’t ask for anything and are usually the nicest to staff. What are you on?

>>10923882
if i was pan, i’d lose weight to stop being associated with every other fat idol desu hope they do

>>10923884
Calm down. Anon is bullshitting because those idols got name dropped. Berrybeanpie is not even from the same country as the other 2 and just debuted too LMAO. Critical thought for one second.

This is a gross topic are you nonnies that bored

>>10923886
Berry has no history as far as can be determined. Pan has a track record of being flexible and forgiving at events and is an event organizer herself. Alexis behaves fine at events but has expressed that she feels she should have access to better stages or opportunities for both her soloist project and group than they’ve had behind the scenes. Personally, I don’t think that should be considered “entitled”.

>>10923886
This. Let’s move on.

>>10923900
What has she done to deserve better opportunities? Why does she think she and her group deserve it? Alexis cannot perform without having an asthma attack, her group has only performed once with a full lineup, and neither puts out consistent content that show their abilities. It’d be great if she could have those opportunities but she and her group have to earn them. I’m sorry but that is her acting entitled.

>>10923816
Loli isn't illegal or even immoral faggot

>>10923862
If theyre practicing regularly they should be losing weight naturally. If they're still fat after so long they're intentionally doing it to themselves (outside of medical conditions)

>>10923999
found the pedo moid

>>10924000
This. Even with medical conditions that would make losing weight harder, you should be able to see them have good stamina from practicing and performing.

>>10924001
>Petite people existing makes a completely unrelated person a pedophile
Holy shit you are fucking deranged

>>10924012
Loli is simulated child porn, retard. it has nothing to do with a woman being skinny short and flat chested, it has everything to do with how they play into the fetish for freaks that are into loli.

Short, skinny, flat chested women make up the majority of adult japanese idols but somehow most of them manage to brand themselves without appealing to people who are into simulated child porn’s fetish. Hm.

>>10924014
>He's so mindbroken by porn he thinks loli is only pornographic
Top kek, get help and stop jerking off every 2hrs

>>10924014
Yikes the real pedo shows itself

This is cringe. I really want you all to tell your mothers that you like lolis, what it is, what you like about it, and come back with her reaction.

>>10924009
You can't out run a bad diet. No matter how much they practice, exercise only helps a small portion.

>>10924022
This.
You also never really know what someone’s dealing with medically either unless they open up about their health.
PCOS, endometriosis, thyroid conditions, hormone conditions, psychiatric medication, sleep apnea, steroid medication, certain medications for autoimmune disorders, etc all mess with people’s ability to lose weight. The person would have to address these with a doctor if they aren’t losing it with improved diet and exercise. There’s a fair number of idols in the community with these health issues.

>>10924024
Yes and let's not also forget how terrible the healthcare system in America is. And how some people can't even afford insurance to even get it addressed.

>>10924020
Jokes on you my mother is a loli

people forget that there’s a fetish niche for fat idols that they can fill. the difference between a fat idol taking in pity support and a fat idol comfortable with fetish support are the amount of men in her audience. kek

>>10924036
Why is it okay to fetishize fat, but not petite fit idols?

>>10924046
AYRT i think that’s just called being into the beauty standard lmao. not many people consider finding conventionally attractive fit women attractive a fetish. im just saying that there’ll be fetish niches for all as long as there’s someone willing to fill them.

Did anyone go to Idol Party LA?

>>10924012
holy shit you're a pedo AND a moid. kys

>>10924030
both of you, kill yourselves. if you're that retarded to be a lolicon, you've probably already considered suicide because you're that much of a loser. stop being a wimp.

>>10923487
It’s unfair to lump Phoebe in here. She looks and acts like an adult woman. Her aesthetic is hyperfeminine but she’s not trying to imitate child. She’s the voice actor for her corpo vtuber. If you’re bothered by Ami Amami’s design, take it up with the company that made the character and move your shit to /vt/.

>>10924074
Phoebe OWNS the character now since the business died, yet still chose to post lewd art of the Loli. She has no excuse to hide behind.

>>10924052
Berry lip syncing lots of her set was not the vibe

>>10924052
It was overall a solid event. Nijicon’s video message was a nice surprise. At-home cafe was fantastic. Asayoru’s maid idol subunit, Aquarius, and Phoebe were good as always. Hamu was alright. Strawberry Sunday and Berry were just eeh.
Idol Party was run by the same people that run NorthWest IdolFest and ran SCIF before. It makes me look forward to NWIF this year. I’ll probably buy a ticket for it. I hope there is a Vol 2.

>>10924087
I’m tired of seeing Berry at major events when she can’t actually perform at the level of most of the opportunities she gets handed on a silver platter. Is it pity?

Can someone explain to me why calling out idols on their shitty past behaviour is considered as harassment and being a hater?

>>10924102
>If it’s an idol nobody likes, it’s justified
>If it’s a popular idol, it’s harassment and you’re a hater
Simple as because people have no critical thinking skills lmao. Can you elaborate on which idol you’re talking about tho?

>>10924103
I'm talking about a local idol in Brisbane Australia. Her instagram is Pastelkitsu and she's done alot of horrible things to people but any time anyone speaks up against her, they get swarmed with hate. It's annoying because it's a rinse and repeat cycle with her bullying people, them calling her out and her pulling the victim card. Idk if this is agendaposting tho :')

>>10924105
I think you should take your story and proof if you have it to the lolcow net idol thread. 4chan usually deletes things like this. The anons there investigate things thoroughly and recently they investigated the Signals bullying scandal. Good luck, anon.

>>10924074
phoebe is NOT acting like an adult woman bffr

>>10924089
Berry is good. She's solo so of course there is more expected of her. I wish she would sing live though. At least sing on top of her music But, she's good. she can dance well. She has a polished stage presence. She's skinny and attractive by weeb standards. She also has clout. Berry at any event will have people curious. She has a lot of followers. Also, it doesn't seem like there are much other kaigai idols in socal anyway besides everyone at the show.

>>10924084
where did she post the lewd art?

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>>10924120
Twitter

>>10924106
>Investigated Signals bullying scandal
im surprised that didn’t get more traction on here. they basically exposed signals as dragging out their drama against their former member.

>>10924128
yikes thats a child
unfollowing phoebe

>>10924067
>>10924050
Kill yourselves jealous lardass trannies. Cope, seethe and dilate

>>10924131
>Oh no! Less that 2" of total skin is showing and all I can think about is sexing children

>>10924133
You‘re actually insane. If your pedo moid ass doesn‘t see the problem with that art then there‘s a lot wrong with you

>>10924132
being a tranny lardass is better than being a pedo and a moid. being a fat tranny is better than wishing you could rape a child because the idea of a grown woman can't get your micro penis hard

>>10924128
Phoebe presents herself as so sweet and pure and then there's this... which people will argue is still sweet and pure but no it's clearly sexual content, borderline soft-core porn that should be for an 18+ audience.

and I wonder what is the point? is she trying to appeal to a certain audience? Does she like these kind of characters herself? is she just taking whatever gigs she can get for h er voice acting career?

>>10924131
Can someone give a tl;dr? I ain’t reading that whole thread.


>>10924137
I think she was following an art trend and it backfired. She says this character is intended to be seen as an adult because she’s also a small adult woman. It’s not an excuse but she doesn’t seem to have pedophillic intent and just wanted to put out sexy art of what is now her OV. Isn’t she also a survivor of csa or am I misremembering?

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>>10924138
this is long but it’s shorter than the thread lmao
>anon on lolcow brings up signals drama and eventually people start asking for proof
>anon claiming to be alexis’s friend posts how they have the truth, claims to have “hundreds of screenshots” and that alexis will send anyone screenshots if they would PLEASE just dm her about it
>anon is very obviously alexis herself
>other anons push for the screenshots anon claims to have
>alexis anon backpedals but says they will come back when they “can get access to them again”
>comes back with screenshots of lists of tasks each member did leading up to nwif 2023, presumably made and sent by alexis
>lists include tasks unrelated to the group like “staffing the iin booth on friday” and petty things like booking flights and hotels, printing out things on a home printer, and making restaurant reservations.
>one anon takes it upon themselves to “investigate” to get proof and emails/dms nwif, iin, signals, and pan on their burner and comes back with the responses they received
>nwif gave a stock reply that they give to all reports
>iin gave a professional response in regards to staffing issues at their booth, stating that the issues brought up in alexis’s list were addressed internally
>pan does not respond/leaves anon on read
>signals replies saying they want to share their side of the story and are compiling screenshots, pic rel
>signals backs out on sending them to anon once they realize their screenshots would be posted in public

public info was combed over and found that pan, at least not publicly, never accused them of bullying. this thread made the incident where ash/vanity/celeste spread a false racism allegation against people that they didn’t like come out too.

>>10924138
Stop being lazy. We've had this drama shit up this thread so many fucking times we don't need it again

Pan I know your irrelevant now but bringing up old drama isn’t the way to go

>>10924154
i don’t think pan is even aware this is happening lmao people just bring up signals drama whenever alexis gets metioned

>>10924147
This is interesting but please keep it on lolcow or else Signals and their friends will come shit up the thread.

>>10924147
LOL This thread does actually expose Signals being shitty and is also recent information. I wonder why as soon as it’s brought up, all these anons come out of the woodwork to complain it’s stupid and to please not talk about it. I wonder why they’re trying to drag their former member through the mud again, too. Hmm…

>>10924154
Is anyone relevant let's be fr

>>10924135
>>10924136
Butthurt 500kg landwhale non-passing trannies detected. Imagine being so sexless that you have to imagine that anyone not interested in you has to be a pedophile

>>10924153
>>10924157
>>10924158
anon of >>10924147. didn’t know this was such a contentious topic. i don’t know anyone related to this drama, just stating the facts because someone asked lmao. i think signals going into panic mode each time it’s brought up instead of taking the L is hilarious.

>>10924138
Proof she’s said that this character is supposed to be an adult? Can’t she adjust the character’s design to read more like adult since she owns her now?

>>10924160
Yikes. That is sus, considering that anons went all-in on everyone else brought up.

>>10924162
i laughed so hard reading this, thank you for the entertainment

can you guys shut up about signals now. bet the members are bringing up their drama shit again and im gonna tell you, we‘re so tired of you and you arent getting relevant again unless you actually put out some CONTENT for once

>>10924168
The last “content” they put out was a summer subunit vote, whatever that means when you’re a trio, and an unfinished row for one of their members’s birthdays. Summer is almost a third of the way over, chop chop.

>>10924168
Literally what reason would they have to bring it up over and over? I'm sure both sides want it to die but some Alexis hater keeps bringing it up

>>10924172
the first day of summer was last week you numbskull. just because your middle school classes let out in may doesn't make that summer

>>10924173
NTAYRT It’s hard for me to have sympathy for Signals getting this drama brought up again and again. I believe they posted their dirty laundry onto 4chan in the first place. Them panicking about bullying allegations and being so quick to call their former member a liar that tells me that something nasty might have actually happened.

>>10924181
"You believe" doesn't make it true but okay. Either way I'm tired of hearing about it.

>>10924184
Except, they very obviously did. Nobody else would have had all of that information dragged out onto 4chan. Alexis posted on that lolcow thread and they were replying to a drama seeking anon on a burner email using their group’s email up until that anon wanted to attach their name to screenshots.

>>10924185
Again these are all assumptions. None of you have proof of this and yet are speaking like it's fact. It wouldn't be a surprise to me if some friend of theirs was defending them in their stead just as pan's goonies were. They weren't hiding screenshots from people who asked. But an anonymous person asking to post to 4chan?? Obviously drama seeking. Probably changed their minds at that point.

>>10924186
nayrt The screenshot in >>10924147 seems to suggest that they were onboard to provide screenshots to someone who’s obviously anon and obviously seeking.
>proton mail, the anonymous mail service
>obvious burner account name
>”I am investigating this for the interest of the public record”
I don’t think Signals are stupid. The anon claiming to be her friend claimed that Alexis would send it to anyone provided they contacted. Someone went and tested that claim, and almost got it before Signals realized it was a bad idea. So… Screenshots don’t actually get to go to anyone that asks. Just Alexis’s friends.

This shit makes Signals look worse each time. Of course there’s no proof, it’s anonymous. If it was Alexis’s friend, that still shows that Signals and their circle of friends are dragging this out. Their former member removed themselves from the bullshit months ago.
The only people keeping this drama alive are Signals, their friends, and random haters. Their former member removed themselves from the bullshit months ago. If you want people to stop talking about it, just ignore them and keep talking about a different topic. It’s that’s simple.

>>10924196
Sorry mobilefag didn’t mean to say that phrase twice. I’m tired of this drama. Let’s move on.

>>10924185
We’ll never know for certain but there’s too much lining up for it to not have been Signals and/or their friends. One of the members has a past of doing this with their previous maid cafe.

It’s also hilarious that Signals has “friends” defending them but Pan has “goons”, like some kind of fucking cartoon character. Be so for real.

>>10924206
signals have said before that they were uncomfortable wota and think that they’re disgusting. guess what former member of signals has actual wota for fans?

Can we please move on? No one cares.
I wish I could’ve gone to Idol Party in LA it looked so fun. Can someone give a review of the performances they saw?

thoughts on current online showcase lineups?

>>10924206
I need this group to disband so people can stop talking about them like they did with Reso. It’s cancer seeing them self post their drama in every thread.

>>10924229
It was very good. I traveled out for this event and felt like I got my money’s worth. All the performers were amazing as usual so there isn’t much to talk about. Asayoru was great and I can’t wait for them to reopen their brick and mortar location. Aquarius was fun. Phoebe and Berry always give a great performances no matter where I’ve seen them. This was my first time seeing Hamu and Strawberry Sunday. I thought they were very cute. I’m surprised a first time event was able to nab two major Japanese guests for this event but I saw someone say either in the thread that it’s run by the same people that run NWIF, so maybe they have great connections. Depending on the lineup for NWIF, I will have to go there, too. Between IPLA and the announcements they made for NWIF with Gumi Taberu and Berry as guests, I have high hopes.

The vibes in the venue were immaculate. The venue was gorgeous and way bigger than I thought it would be. I’m really looking forward to the next Idol Party. I hope they’re able to book more out of state kaigai idols since the SoCal scene seems extremely small. The quality of this event was phenomenal.

>>10924253
People still do online showcases? Names?

>>10924137
>>10924138
In interviews she's been pretty up front that Phoebe/Feebe is her idol persona which stays pure and wholesome and Ami the frog is the persona she uses to be unhinged and explore more risque ideas like the image in question.
And thank you for continuing the erasure of petite adult women and stigmatizing a grown woman with the child label just because they don't meet YOUR social construct of what an adult looks like. Heights under 5 feet and bra sizes under a B exist, you know. Especially in asian countries like Japan, Korea, and the Philippines. Women shouldn't have to apologize for not being 5'8 and 150lbs.

>>10924254
multiverse, niia, tristate idol union, yumetopia and kira kira are all doing online showcases currently i believe.

>>10924294
real grown women who are petite do not look and act like lolis. nice try moid. also, real women look at other real women for validation. not pedo bait drawings.

>>10924184
>>10924186
>ThErE’s No PrOoF yOu CaN’t PrOvE tHaT SiGnAlS DiD ThAt
makes you 3 look guilty af each time.

>>10924294
there's a difference between a woman just existing and a woman catering to an ageplay fetish. learn the difference.
>5'8", 150lbs
have you ever met a real woman? TF

>>10924306
are online showcases really worth watching? what's the appeal?

>>10924330
I think online showcases are good for idols who want to build more hype for a video they've been working on, before they premiere it on youtube. I like interracting with the chat in real time. The excitement has totally died down since 2020, but if I can catch them and the lineup is actually good, I don't mind them. If anything it's good background noise lol.

Holly got kicked out of prismatic love

anyone have details about the rumor that texas idol fest was being elitist?

>>10924324
true lmao

>>10924344
idk who that is but deets?

>>10924366
When isn’t TIF being elitist? Martha always picks her friends over real talent

How does a fucking bread and tokusatsu themed idol get so much attention around themselves over petty drama?

>>10924380
I don’t know, pan. You should tell me.

>>10924344
who is that even

>>10924380
Both her haters and supporters are obsessed with posting here

>>10924386
This. It’s the same with Phoebe in this thread and some other idols with followings. They can’t control what people choose to do with their limited time on earth.

>>10924380
no idea. its not even the most outrageous drama that’s ever happened in the history of the overseas idols community. i think because the drama got dragged onto 4chan by people involved, more eyes were put on it and therefore more interest.

>>10924381
>thinking the idol with coomer moid supporters really needs to promote herself on 4chan when they will post here themselves

>>10924374
How is it elitist when the lineups are consistently full of literal nobodies that suck?

>>10924386
Each time I’ve seen them posted here, they’re always under such intense scrutiny I’ve never seen given to anyone else.
>Pan is classist for saying anyone can go on tour in a video they made.
Then the full statement was saying that it is very expensive and challenging, but could be a goal for those with the time and money to do it.
>Pan is lazy and soulless for hiring a producer and lyricist to make a song.
Something that most other idols do and is the standard.
>Pan is a master manipulator with complete control over every situation involving them.
That’s literally impossible for anybody to actually do.
>Pan’s fanbase is full of brainless coomers.
But it’s referring to them having a lot of male fans that share their niche interest.
Is there something I’m missing?

>>10924505
crab bucket mentality and jealousy. most kaigai idols are too lazy and rely on excuses like “fatphobia” or “being slept on” for why they don’t get traction. pan working hard and doing well for herself exposes that for the bullshit it is.

>>10924549
>rely on excuses like “fatphobia”
You must be new to Pan

Here come the pan defenders again like clockwork

>>10924554
Where has Pan ever said fatphobia has held them back? I’ve always seen them booked and busy.

>>10924556
>Pan is irrelevant! Nobody cares.
>Here come the Pan defenders again.
So do they have fans that care or do they not? Make up your mind.

Here come the crabs to pull the moving one back down. Never change, overseas idol community.

>>10924557
Pretty sure it's either pan themselves or their partner shitting up the threads

>>10924559
AYRT I doubt it. People do actually like them, contrary to what people think.
>Pan’s partner
Didn’t know that they had a partner and I’ve been following them closely for years. Wouldn’t that be private info only a close friend or former close friend would know, though?

>>10924564
They've been mentioned on the threads before. Dunno if they're still together desu

>>10924565
From experience, usually when kaigai idols have boyfriends or girlfriends, they’re not idols themselves or even involved in their partner’s idol hobby. If they don’t go here, they’re not invested in community drama.
Whoever posted that here initially was most likely a close friend or former close friend posting private info, which is a pretty shitty thing to do.

>>10924566
Okay?? Anyways

>>10924374
Many organizers do this cause they like reliable people who won't be hard to work with.

>>10924566
>If they don’t go here, they’re not invested in community drama.
This. Talk to anyone that isn’t an overseas idol about community drama and see what happens.

>>10924572
Anon is a close friend or former close friend to Pan posting them to 4chan. Hope they realize, nice try with >>10924565 though.

>>10924565
>>10924564
The last time a partner mentioned was when the Signals drama started in the last thread. I wonder who may have been close friends or former close friends to Pan who would have known about them being in a relationship that would have been so invested in the drama LMAO or Pan desperately needs better friends.

>>10924573
I'm not but have fun guessing instead of having a real conversation

>>10924577
wow this just gets messier and messier. yikes. so is this group’s reputation just ruined?

>>10924584
Let's say it for the hundredth time and maybe it will be true. Does anyone else have anything to talk about?

>>10924577
People were pointing out shady behavior from Alexis and sometimes Ash towards Pan on here for at least a year while they were still on good terms.

>>10924584
Probably. Let’s move on.

>>10924589
New topic: What events are everyone looking forward to?

>>10924589
I mean… their reputation is tarnished at least. Attendees did witness poor behavior from Signals like shit talking at NWIF last year and there were alleged reports. I guess we’ll see if they get into any events.

>>10924597
Only as far as this anonymous board is concerned and the handful of people who see it. Sorry to say the world is bigger than this thread.

>>10924649
AYRT True. If it was just anonymous and online, it definitely wouldn’t amount to much. Only time will tell how IRL witnesses and reports made at an event would affect their opportunities. If it was open enough that attendees noticed it, then staff members also probably did. We won’t actually see the damage, if any, for a long time though like Reso losing their opportunities.

anyone saw the tiktok account meancerise? they posted a video shitting on duripro (eburin's idol group) and some people on instagram were so mad because of it.

>>10924654
I just went an watched a little of it. But honestly I have no sympathy for neuron considering she upholds toxic idol standards and rules for others yet does not fit or follow them herself.

>>10924655
Neburin**** not neuron... autocorrect

>>10924654
>>10924655
I have some sympathy for Eburin because she is a child and also very obviously developmentally disabled. The people in her group also seem to be children.

thread is in autosage

>>10924572
damn ok cunt

>>10924653
they’re kind of already fucked in terms of getting opportunities even without drama and alleged witness
>squandered their hype as a group by redebuting several times and not doing anything over 2 years
>2 live videos featuring a member that is no longer part of the group
>do not produce consistent content and members solo activities ground to a halt
>seem to rely on alexis’s name brand recognition and previously relied on pan’s to get their foot in the door
all of these make their applications less desirable to organizers. their biggest issue is that they can’t show events what they can do with their current lineup. imo at this point i would shut down this project, make moves in silence, and then start a new one to regenerate hype.

>>10924654
this is children bullying children on the internet. the only adults that should get involved are their parents.

>>10924374
>>10924572
I’d buy the idea that TIF is elitist and only picking their friends if the lineups were the same each time and didn’t include new idols. It sounds like someone is just mad they got rejected. Does anyone have anymore details?

>>10924654
Anon, this is obviously a middle schooler’s TikTok.

>>10924681
>thread is in auto sage
let it die

>>10924578
>real conversation
>shuts down the other anon talking to you
I don’t know what to tell you. kys

>>10924577
>>10924653
The thread suddenly got real quiet after this got pointed out LMAO.

Anyway. Thoughts on the guest announcements NWIF made?
>Taberu Gumi
>Berrychan
>Phoebe

>>10925146
well. its just the same people all over again

>>10925263
>>10925146
Phoebe is to be expected because IIRC her manager selects the convention guests. Taberu Gumi and Berry are new to NWIF. NWIF staff keep teasing a “stacked lineup” on their accounts.

Does anyone have predictions for who else will be announced? I think Nonsweet, Paida, and Melancholiaah will be invited back. If Paida is confirmed, then Code Miao might be a guest this year too.

what happened to kaigaiidolnow?

>>10924335
i’m a little surprised virtual showcases still exist. the line ups overlap over some of the ones you mentioned in >>10924306. i’m not interested in kira kira’s love live cosplayer and missed half of niia. i’ll see if i can catch the others and review them.

>>10925146
>trying to claim that someone who wouldn’t respond to anons is now sitting here at all hours of the day on 4chan
>exposing themselves in the process
>anon reveals that group got reported irl for behavior
>leave when both get pointed out
this drama is the most pathetic thing i’ve watched unfold in real time.

>>10925284
sad to see
>taberu gumi
this is a good guest. she’s a rising star. i’m looking forward to seeing her perform.
>phoebe
i’m a little biased because phoebe is one of my oshis. i think she gives a good performance each time and is clearly a good draw for the event if she keeps getting selected.
>berry
i don’t understand her popularity. i’m not sure how i feel about her being made the host for northern lights.
>predictions for guests
i have a feeling that nonsweet will return. it’s only fitting of they have phoebe. hamu cotton could also be a good draw for them. based on performers that seemed to have big draws last year, code miao, atanadinata, pan ranger, melancholiaah, and paida could be all be real possibilities. my wishlist is aquarius or members of aquarius, bunny kaisui, and foxu.

>>10925348
In regards to berry, it's only a matter of tume until her internet virality wears down. She'll be expected to put out newer music or switch up her style a little otherwise people will get bored of her. That, or if she has true colors that don't work in her favor, those will be revealed eventually as well. She has a heavy mask on. Her vlogs sound so scripted and the way she speaks is like she's always playing a character. " Berry" isn't an extension of herself, it's a mask to hide... something.

>>10925146
>Taberu Gumi
Interesting up and comer, she even has some original songs!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1fSgFQXeIWUOlLvxVjStkA
>Berrychan
Haven't seen her so don't know
>Phoebe
She's growing leaps and bounds recently, very excited

>>10925312
Died a few months ago with no announcements, at least I didn't see any before the acc got deleted.

>>10925375
Agreed. She sounds fake and tryhard happy go lucky in her videos and idk, I feel like shes often trying to put herself in this victim role. I know what she went through was horrible, but shes now living the dreams of so many people of being a full time idol by not even being that talented and having one mediocre song.

>>10925384
>Interesting up and comer, she even has some original songs!

>up and comer

>Not the famous Japanese Australian idol who has been performing for 10 years.

>>10925375
>>10925386
her berry act is weird but i swear y’all call anyone you don’t likes songs mediocre when you don’t like the person. it’s a fine song, it’s nothing groundbreaking but competently made and catchy. what would make it not mediocre?

>>10925387
define "famous"

>>10925413
it's a good debut song, but her voice just needs more practice. that's expected though with idol music. at least she didn't go for the sqeaky aidoru voice and sang it naturally. the mixing is good too. people need to realize that this community has come FAR from the years when flusay girls quality was the norm.

>>10925284
>>10925348
>Performers from last year
Melan, Pan, and Paida had 2-3 hour lines at their meet and greets that looped around the hallways. If they’re not guests this year, I’d be surprised.
>Wishlist
Seconding Aquarius. I want to see Wooly.

>>10925419
>Come far from Flusay Girls
>Implying that’s not an intentional choice
They’re still around and make music that sounds like that.

>>10925386
>shes often trying to put herself in this victim role
Imagine making a 1 minute TikTok with your friends where you say ストロベリー and your life gets completely upended. You lose your friends and nobody in the idol community wants to interact with you because it’ll for certain lead to people harassing them for simply hanging out with you. She’s probably traumatized from the experience. It probably colors the way she thinks about being an idol. She’s successful but I’m sure if she would prefer to have those opportunities without the association to the incident.

>>10925418
she was successful in aus and has been modestly successful as a chika idol in japan.

>>10925423
>2-3 hour lines for kaigai idol meet and greets
>people actually waiting that long
maybe kaigai idols are actually making it

>>10925423
2-3 hour meet and greet? Maybe for Melan and paida but what has pan literally done in comparison???

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>>10925464
AYRT Pan does have a dedicated fanbase. There was a campaign by their fans to get them. The con gained a sponsor because of it. It was a highly anticipated main stage performance for their fans with a meet and greet right after. The event heads are also Pan Ranger fans. Pic related from NWIF’s Instagram, in the purple shirt.

>>10925464
>>10925444

I seriously think the whole kaigai idol scene has been severely underrated by everyone involved but most of all by event organizers and even the performers themselves. Performers like Paida who are good at working a crowd have a huge chance to build a lasting fanbase when they can connect with the audience after a show. But it means those meet and greet/buppan events are critically important to have immediately after a performance. That's the key to leveraging a good first impression into a lasting memory for a future fan. Last year I was at a con with a lot of different solo and duo dancing and singing acts, and only one girl thought to have a meet and greet after the show, and she ended up with an hour long lineup which was easily two thirds complete random con goers. Pretty much all the performers got cheering and support on stage, but I can guarantee you only the one who had a meet and greet is gonna be remembered by the people who stumbled into the audience by chance.

>>10925485
This. These fan interactions are so important to creating positive associations in audiences and creating longterm supporters. An idol can be an amazing performer but if they’re not making those connections, they’re not going anywhere. Consistency is key.

To answer >>10925464’s question about “what Pan has even done” is be good at working a crowd during their live then make sure they’re able to immediately speak to people at every event to create lasting fans. Where there is no explicit meet and greet table, Pan always encourages people to talk to them after they perform. In short, they are very approachable and open.

>>10925485
>>10925497
This only works when they genuinely want to connect and they have to do it even when they have nothing to gain. They also can’t have hangups about men and see anyone they read as male as a pig. So many overseas idols fail at this because they only try to “connect” when they’re trying to gain something and it’s painfully obvious each time.
>inb4 drop names
I’m not going to shit up the thread.

>>10925510
new thread

>>10925506
name names