old threads full and im sick of waiting for a new one so i made one myself
That was the pre Halloween edition and this one was supposed to be the Halloween edition. You had one job, anon
>>10938189oh fuck youre right. guess we'll have 2 ita threads when the regular ita thread anon makes the halloween edition
>>10938187why do all female redditors have the same phenotype
>>10938192i don't frequent Reddit, what is the phenotype?
>>10938197Fat gender-ambiguous face, ugly short haircut devoid of femininity, odd coloured hair to warn people that she is toxic, "quirky" facial expression (optional).
I've had enough of this brand.
>>10938204I'm out of the loop, please fill me in.
>>10938198The "fat but no tits" thing confuses me too. That's supposed to be rare, yet I'm seeing it a lot with these gender specials.
>>10938205It's some indie brand called Vina of the Valley. I'm always seeing ads for it on IG and Discord.
>>10938208>>10938205it's mikan mandarin's brand. she's a youtuber living in japan
>>10938204she is fat and the top part looks awful, but the skirt socks and shoes look amazing imo
>>10938208>>10938209Thanks, I didn't know that brand survived. Are they claiming to be a lolita brand now? Iirc it was more of a mix of idol styles and general frilly kawaii fashion.
>>10938214Honestly not sure-- I had assumed so because of the ad presence in Lolita servers, but it would be more understandable if they were simply a general J-Fashion brand that was mistaken for a Lolita brand by a Zoomer.
>>10938206its the chest binding because "dYsPhOrIa">>10938233this is genuinely awful what the fuck
>>10938236Motherfucking GOD
Been wanting to post Novala for a while. He's very Pick Me. And also most of his IG is just him doing that weird AF "dancing"??
>>10938257I feel that most if not all men in Lolita are “pick me”s. They want praise for being subversive but they never make it past the first page of aliexpress, they never want to put in the effort.
>>10938236the expression in his face is master troll though
tagged "Gothic Lolita"
>>10938257I hate Novala, he always looks unsettling in lolita no matter what brand he wears. Just a fetishist creep who's angry that he hasn't been relevant since the late 2000s and was never that loved in the Japanese lolita community either. I always thought it was very strange some western lolitas defend him so much. Look, I understand the shimotsuma movie is fun, but the book was just okay and I think it's gross he inserted a bit of fetish stuff in it. Some people have a knee jerk reaction and say "it wasn't serious, it was just a joke, you don't understand literature and you're going to have a hard time if you take everything literally".Consider this: lolitas everywhere have been saying it's not a fetish and it's not sexual since forever. He knows this and it's such a troll move of him to include even just a little of it in a book with a lolita main character, even if it's just a joke. "It's just a joke bro" is such a lame excuse in most cases anyway. Some (if not all) of his other works containing lolita characters fetishize being a lolita. Some of them read like personal self insert wank material. He has published at least one work that is officially in the fetish erotica category. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and acts like a duck it's a fucking duck.
>>10938267Wtf is going on with this dress
>>10938274The book isn't even the real issue with him. According to Connie (AtePie employee) he had a history of sexual misconduct with girls in the Japanese community.
>>10938287Not to mention his weird fetishization of "only boys can develop to be purely feminine". >>10938285I'm guessing it's handmade. Past the ugly fabric, incongruent motifs and mismatching patterns, the construction is visibly wonky. Tagging this hot mess Gothic Lolita is rather unnerving. >>10938287Did Connie mention that anywhere public?
How greasy, unstyled hair can ruin a FULL BRAND COORD
>>10938290Nitpick
>>10938288In a large discord, but I can't remember which. Probably Lolibrary.
>>10938287>a history of sexual misconductI am not surprised. I would like to hear about the what, when, where and the fallout afterwards.>>10938288weird, but sadly not uncommon with cross dressing fetishists. It's also a bit similar to how some trans women try to compete with cis women and claim they are better at being women and better at being feminine than cis women are.
>>10938274It's because he's old enough to know how lolita fashion and early lolicon were tied and he fetishized that aspect of it. Lolita and lolicon both did indeed stem from the alice in wonderland driven fascination for the innocence of young girls. Early lolicon was about experiencing this "girl's world" and wasn't inherently or obviously sexual, just fetishizing the ideal of a young girl's purity (basically agp). Mot to say that it wasn't weird as fuck but it was used differently than it became. And the first use if the term loli for a character was for Clarisse from Lupin III : The Castle of Cagliostro due to her pure heart and innocence. The reason lolicon became sexual is also pretty crazy and related to yaoi and comiket. Also lolita was actually a fashion/term for women before it was what lolita was in the 80s, and instead described girls who were childish and wore too many colors and big glasses and shoes acting similar to burikko. But it evolved with similar roots of wanting to capture this pure feeling of a young girl's heart. And the term lolita was actually based off the book, since there was a version of Lolita that was translated in Japan that portrayed Humbert in a similar manner as the viewer is in alice in wonderland/through the looking glass, just an innocent onlooker to the pure "girl's world". So, there is actually a reason behind all of his actions. It is fetishy and weird and he wants likely wants to be one of those "innocent and pure young girls".All of this is easily searchable on the Japanese internet if you know how by the way. And I want to reiterate I am not defending him, but instead explaining his behavior. He DOES sexualize and fetishize lolita, but there are unfortunately precedents to doing so.
>>10938304Thank you. There were some parts you mentioned I had already read about but some stuff that was new to me as well.When I look at the Japanese internet it's always to look at stuff on the secondhand market, blogs or guides made by lolitas. I have never encountered some of this stuff in those spaces which makes sense because it's not something Japanese lolitas want to be associated with.That the novel Lolita was translated changing the tone of the story does explain a lot. I'm curious about the current general opinion that Japanese lolitas have about Novala. At most I see content about the shimotsuma movie and how nostalgic it is for them, but very few mentions of the shimotsuma book and Novala himself.
>>10938267It's odd how underdeveloped the Brazilian gothic lolitas are when compared to the Chilean lolitas
>>10938304I like this explanation because it lines up with what modern day men will say the concept of girlhood - see Dylan Mulvaney, the whole submissive femboy thing, and yurifags. It’s tough because lolitas always want to say the name of our fashion has nothing to do with the fetish, but that’s not exactly right. They both originated from idealizing girlhood. Most wearers of the fashion took it in a nonsexual direction while fetishists saw it as a sexual purity thing.
Is this ita?https://heartofdoll.com/collections/dolly-dress
>>10938339Yes it is
>>10938339It's not being sold as Lolita, is it?I feel it's too short for someone to pull it off successfully, not to mention the bad quality materials. Outside Lolita it's a cute dress, for Lolita it's definitely ita.
>>10938339it's coomlita
>>10938336nayrt, I also appreciated the explanationThe whole "idealizing girlhood" though, I don't know how common it is but that has never been a reason for why I like the fashion. I understand it has a lot to do with the meanings lolita has had in the past in japan. For a long time I didn't even know idealizing girlhood had something to do with the fashion. I got to know about lolita through gothic fashion websites. When I first got to know about it I saw it as frilly rebellion and benign escapism. This was also before the release of prints like Dreamy Baby Room, if that helps build context. The gothic fashion I wore before also had lots of lace and frills, and I certainly did not associate that with girlhood. Not sexy either. It was dark and romantic. But sadly also mostly made out of synthetic materials like unflattering polyester crushed velour and lots of scratchy lace. I saw lolita (the way it looked then) as a more comfortable (cotton) more wearable (lacing, shirring) and cuter version of that. It hit some different aesthetic notes, absolutely, but still similar enough for me to house them both under feminine frilly alternative fashion. When you say girlhood I think about actual children playing outside in dungarees and muddy shoes, there's nothing inherently cute about that to me. At a certain point I read an article delving into the history of the term "lolita" and the meanings it has had that did help me understand things I didn't understand before. But I still enjoy the fashion for the same reasons I did when I started. I understand what people mean now with "idealizing girlhood" in the context of this topic. I just don't personally attach the term to lolita. I will always see it as a fashion for older teens and adults because of factors such as rebellion and the price of the clothes. I don't see frills and lace as something that is limited to childhood years.
>>10938359I think you're looking at it too realistically, it's a fantasy thing. The way it ended up in relation to the fashion is more about rejecting womanhood than anything, rejecting growing up. And the girlhood that you're thinking of isn't the fantasy Victorian girlhood that was described in Lewis Carroll works. I kind of think you're overthinking a lot of it anyway, it's evolved a lot since the 80s and even the name used to mean something different than what it does now.
>>10938362If i showed up and this was my comm, id never go to a meet again.
>>10938362How does every single one of them manage to look this greasy and unwashed. Imagine the smell.
>>10938366I probably didn't word it well enough despite making a very long comment, but I do understand what you're saying here. What I was trying to say is that, for certain reasons, that connection initially wasn't immediately obvious to me. I thought the victorian setting was appealing on a surface level way because a lot of upper class victorian stuff is just very beautiful, ornate and luxurious. I only understood the connection to fantasy girlhood after I read about the history of the term. Before that I truly did believe lolita fashion and the book weren't related whatsoever.Knowing that it's related to fantasy girlhood makes it even more creepy and disgusting that some people fetishize it. I used to see it as "men with a crossdressing fetish are interested in it because it's very feminine". And that still may be the only reason some of them are interested in it, but for a lot of them the fantasy version of girlhood (for some specifically the victorian version) is a key point. Alice in Wonderland was quite popular in the lolita community, more popular than it is now. I wasn't personally very interested in the story but it makes more sense in hindsight.
>>10938372None of them have made the effort to do their hair neatly. The outfits look very cobbled together, the whole group looks messy. It really is amazing there isn't at least one person who is properly dressed.
>>10938306japanese lolitas don't care about any of this crap
>>10938375okay we get it, you're not like other girls and don't like cute girly feminine things. why tf are you even in his fashion? i'm tired of femininity being demonized. it's not women's fault that men see those things as sexual.
>>10938390One thing I’ll never understand is getting into Lolita despite not wanting to present yourself femininely.
>>10938390>you're not like other girls and don't like cute girly feminine things.How did you jump to that conclusion? that's a very strange assumption to make after I've just said I like cute frilly lacy fashion. If you're taking this from the comment about kids in dungarees and muddy shoes, that was pretty much the norm where I grew up. Fantasy girlhood is a fantasy because no-one actually lives like that.>>10938389some of them care about the shimotsuma movie, probably not the book otherwise it would be talked about more and to me it doesn't seem like it is.>>10938392see above.
>>10938198>odd coloured hairAre you aware of what fashion you're in?
>>10938304>>10938359Both of you retarded degenerates need to be lined up against a wall. The whole intent behind lolita fashion was to look as unsexy to moids as possible. That's all. It's not sexual and it's definitely not that fucking deep.
>>10938439No Aiden, no matter how many compliments you get on it from the polycule, your faded turquoise-turned-swamp-green Splat box dye job over piss yellow untoned hair is not lolita.
>>10938443>>10938362I do not get whyyyy none of these fucking reprobates can wear a wig or wash and style their hair into something appealing or pretty to look at, and the moment anyone suggests it they act like you're trying to staple their skin. whyyyy please god just make your fucking hair look appealing even when I was a beginner at the very least I washed my hair and styled it into cute bangs. Get a good dye job. Wear a flattering wig for your coord. Is it fucking rocket science? Why is 50% of this fashion people acting like they're literally being set on fire by being told basic advice that will help them look presentable?
>>10938442Learn to read. There's nothing degenerate or sexual about what I said.Also lolita had little to do with being unattractive to men, rather it ignored the whims of men entirely. It's impossible to endeavor to be unattractive to males. Don't put such importance on them.
>>10938449i'm gonna assume it's because a vast (?) majority of lolitas don't take the fashion that damn seriously. it's just a hobby, not a job
>>10938507Yeah a fashion hobby, the fun of it is to look good wearing it.
post title said "no concrit"
>>10938558it's cute.bid remove the waist ribbon but overall it's a cute fit
>>10938572the bag, shoes, headdress, and tights dont match the OP/coat at ALL
>>10938576I'd let the bag go, but shoes and tights go along the Japanese schoolgirl motif just right. Looking at it again, it could be just a coat over a black dress (that would justify the headdress).
>>10938572everything she's wearing looks cheap as shit
>>10938290This is so cute. She just needs fuller hair or pigtails to balance the coord. The actual coord is lovely. Nitpick, not ita.
>>10938582Not washing your hair is ita. She's effectively ruined her own coord.>>10938558This is the best our perma-ita has ever looked!
>>10938582You look like you smell and your dress doesn't fit. Try again.
>>10938577>>10938572Lolitas-at-heart detected
>>10938558Is this so hard to understand basic fashion color theory? Black and navy don't mix well together. I learnt this in middle school wtf how doesn't she know that, she is the age to have a middle school aged kid.>>10938449The one on the right is clearly wearing a wig, her coord isn't great tho.>>10938372Lolita fashion is a nerdy hobby that attracts autists, what did you expect?
>>10938442The intent of lolita is to dress for yourself and ignore societal expectations if they don't align with what you want. Most men dislike it, which is a fortunate side effect but it's not the main point of the fashion. If the main reason you wear lolita is to look unattractive to men you're still thinking about their opinion of you way too much and you have missed the point of the fashion.
>>10938507I hate it when people think being a lolita is just putting the clothes on your body and that ignoring everything else like hygiene, proper hair care and hair styling is fine. If they are not trying to look even halfway decent I don't think they actually love lolita fashion.
>>10938634>Black and navy don't mix well togetherWoof all the goths are staring at your rn. Such a load of bullshit.
>>10938558>>10938362How do you people not burst out laughing when you see men in dresses at your tea parties?
>>10938693>missed the point of the fashion.of any women's fashion really. indifference is stronger than hate.
This would’ve been so cute without the green “Not Ita” conversation heart…
>>10938290show me ur full brando coord poor
>>10938426she looks good. this is a good coord i just wish she wore a head bow but she looks fine
>>10938290Nitpick. I wouldn't have even noticed the hair if it hadn't been mentionned. Also, stuff do happen. Her hair was prolly styled correctly hours before taking the photo, but sweating happens, wind happens. Coord is overshadowing the nitpick part anyway.
>>10938753as if anyone but a poorfag ita would buy this trash over sugar hearts kek
>>10938757There is so much wrong with that outfit and that's not a she. I laughed when I saw the file name.
>>10938696Moitié blue isn't navy though
>>10938187Coord is cute, makeup is ita
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>>10938774Never mentioned moitie... but anyway Moitie does have navy pieces, newfag. "moitie blue" doesn't even exist as a cohesive tone of blue.
>>10938696It's a very basic fashion rule though. You should choose one or the other for your neutral, not both. Lolita is kind of a special case though, so I could believe it'd work in a lolita outfit.
>>10938780I hate this dress, it's the ita version of btssb's Millefeuille jsk.>>10938779that lip liner is the worst. Why is anyone still doing this?>>10938781I laughed when I saw that the bjd print knee joints are almost halfway down the lower legs instead of on the knees. Everything else also sucks though, but I thought that was the funniest part.
>>10938790>It's a very basic fashion rule thoughI wonder how and where it became normalized. Black and navy are often placed side by side in men's casual-chic as well as in office fashion where I'm from. It's so common you'll often see reporters wearing it on the news.
>>10938724where are the men in the second pic? If you're talking about the tall shiro lolita, she's not a man
Fucking ew
>>10938795Glad to see I am not the only one who hates this stupid mascot suit shoe-horned into everything that dumb whore wears.
>>10938794>the tall shiro lolita, she's not a mannayrt. If that's true (which I doubt) that is very unfortunate for her.
>>10938795>>10938796it's very creepy.
>>10938329why even bother?>>10938339yes>>10938784am I the only one who thinks this is cute?
>>10938845>am I the only one who thinks this is cute?It might be ita but I can't deny it's got its charm.
>>10938849disgusting
>>10938849>those ugly pants under the skirtWhy
>>10938795her coords are good and usually all brand. you sound poor.
>>10938853No one wants to see your zoophilia fetish gear
>>10938850why does it look like one of her heels doesn't fit into her crocs when the other one looks like it fits fine????
>>10938843Her makeup is so ugly
>>10938845I think the last one is fun as well. I mean, sure, it's ita if she says it's lolita but it still looks fun to me. I'm imagining a "yeehaw" themed meetup with people showing up in cowboy hats and boots.
>>10938849I haven't seen that replica in a while>>10938853It's not about how good her coords are or how much brand she wears. Furry stuff is inherently ita and unsettling. Someone has probably told you before but just in case you have not gotten the message yet: post your furry stuff to furry sites. It's not welcome in lolita spaces. We don't want to see it on coord sharing sites, we don't want to see it at meetups and we don't want to see or hear you discuss your furry interest either.>>10938852We see that with muslim lolitas too, even though it's still very ugly we can't say anything because religion.
>>10938795mixing zoophile and ita is poor taste
>>10938853Sorry you got posted.
>>10938867>>10938864i don't think this person is a zoo, though? they've said they don't partake in the nsfw side of furry fandom. besides, this person appears normal enough outside of the suit, well-groomed and not gross, and doesn't post furshit on their egl account. their coordinate isn't ita, either, and matches fine with the fursuit.>It's not about how good her coords are or how much brand she wears. Furry stuff is inherently ita and unsettling. is a strange take. so the coord can be good, but because there's a suit involved, it makes it bad? i'd much rather see something creative, interesting, and pleasing to the eye like this person's coord over a man in a dress, or a fat person in a dress, which is 10000% more ita. i dunno.
>>10938881Lolita is not a costume. We scream it from the rooftops every day. We're constantly getting confused with cosplayers as it is and you want to allow literal costume pieces in lolita? Foh. Like anon said, keep furry shit in furry comms. Idgaf if she's a furry, but why does she have to tag it as lolita?Imo- men and fatties are equally bad for the same reason- they want a pat on the back for minimal effort. Oddly enough, the fatties tip the scales (lol) by being allergic to petticoats. If I see another belly being substituted for a petticoat, I'm going to just throw my whole computer away.
>>10938882> We're constantly getting confused with cosplayers as it is and you want to allow literal costume pieces in lolita?i don't think it's any worse than lolitas wearing costume-y coordinates for a special event, like at a convention or for halloween. or are those coordinates not acceptable, either? ap and baby would like to have a word with you, if so.>men and fatties are equally bad for the same reason- they want a pat on the back for minimal effort. that's my point, though. obviously this coordinate isn't minimal effort. this furry girl knows brand and knows how to coordinate it well. if this coord didn't involve the fursuit, it would be perfectly acceptable.
>>10938882she's tagging it as lolita because it is lolita. you can hate the costume aspect as much as you want, it's still lolita at the end of the day. she's even wearing all brand. are you blind nonna?
>>10938882>We're constantly getting confused with cosplayersWhy do most lolitas get so buttflustered about this? Whenever a normie tells my "Nice cosplay!" when I'm wearing lolita I smile and go on with my day. I don't get why other lolitas in the comm seem to get their pettis in a twist about that and start yapping about how "it's not a cosplay akthually it's called lolita fashion". Random normies will never understand what the fashion is about anyway, why bothering if they're being nice? Correcting them this way just makes you look like a sperg. Honestly I'd rather have normies thinking I'm wearing a cosplay than having them thinking my clothing style is related with the book. Most people will associate "lolita fashion" with wanting to look like a nymphet if you don't get into a tangent to explain them how it's not related, which would make things even more awkward.>inb4 you're a conlitaI mostly wear casual classic when I go out with my friends or family
>>10938864don't care + didn't ask + you sound poor
>>10938881Mascot heads like this are popular in japan as well and used to feature in some GLB street snaps, it's really only western lolitas that associate them with sex and act 12 about it.
>>10938890western lolitas are weirdly obsessed with fetish and kinks themselves, so it checks out.
>>10938795I mean it's either this or her looking ghetto, there's really no winning for her. At least she dresses nice.
>>10938901That absolutely maxed out shirring cutting into the chest looks painful. And ik it's just some shitty photo op with fake ass tatami but even so, why on earth would you step on it with your shoes on? I hate this so much
>>10938899i agree, weirdly targeted racist comment aside, she atleast dresses nice for a furry.
>>10938899Fucking hell, maybe the fursuit is her glasses and she can't see without it bc wtf
>>10938911yeah very weird for a furry to post only furry content on their page.
>>10938891True. In japan furries are just associated with mascots and kemono mascots, some of the biggest furry conventions in the world are in japan and are all-ages events. Liz Lisa even used to have a MyMelody suit for the LizMelo releases. That's what this girl's content reminds me of, honestly. She's not fat, she's not a man, her coords are cohesive and all-brand, and as far as I can tell she's never even posted any kind of NSFW content in lolita groups. Accusing her of being a zoophile or pervert solely for wearing a mascot head is just weird, and frankly the mindset that any woman caught doing anything even tangentially related to sex is an evil witch corrupting the fashion is patently misogynistic.
>>10938921then it makes sense why the eastern lolita community doesn't make as much fuss about this whole fursuit thing compared to the western. im guessing over there they aren't soft in the brain. after that weird racist comment though, im starting to think hate for this girl isn't about her costume. does she have some small hate following?
>>10938899>frankly the mindset that any woman caught doing anything even tangentially related to sex is an evil witch corrupting the fashion is patently misogynistic.lolitas aren't ready for this conversation yet.
>>10938781Why do men like this like lolita? Genuinely curious. Is it a fetish thing for them?
>>10938927yeah it's just a humiliation fetish mixed with misogyny
Hey, have you thought about the fact that many people find fursuits and animatronics really creepy? Just look at those lifeless blue eyes. Also, it's always been the rule that fursuits (or animal ears unless they're part of an animal-themed print) don't belong in lolita fashion. Anon is right, this isn't lolita. The most important part of any outfit is the dress, and you can barely even see the dress in this coord because of that crazy headpiece. Even just the paws might have been okay. Why didn't she post this in a furry group instead of a lolita one? I'm not saying it's ugly, but it's furry, so she should post it where it belongs.
>>10938932you can't see the dress because the costume is in the way? being retarded on purpose isn't cute, nonna. I don't like furshit either but now you're just reaching.
>>10938881>they've said they don't partake in the nsfw side of furry fandomIf they say that then it must be true.>so the coord can be good, but because there's a suit involved, it makes it bad?yes, it ruins the look. Good you understand.>>10938883>costume-y coordinates for a special eventnayrt, those are themed coords, not actual costumes. A fur suit is a costume.>if this coord didn't involve the fursuit, it would be perfectly acceptable.yes, and because it does involve a fursuit it is not acceptable. It seems you're starting to get it.>>10938886nayrt, I personally wouldn't mind if a well meaning random person told me "nice cosplay", I don't argue or explain lolita fashion to strangers anyway (wasted effort). But lolita fashion is still not a costume and there are multiple good reasons why furries aren't generally accepted in the community.>>10938889it seems I touched a nerve there>>10938890how many furry heads (not just animal masks, it has to specifically be furry as in the looks associated with the furry fandom) have you seen in GLBs?People associate furries with fetish because a significant amount of people in the furry community have a furry fetish.>>10938921japanese mascot suits of Sanrio characters are not furry. You know that, we know that you know that, stop being disingenuous>>10938924stop talking to yourself>>10938926I don't care if you have kinks, just don't bring that shit into the lolita community.
>>10938236You wanna be me so fucking bad you fat fuck
>>10938932if she posts this in a furry group then the wrong type of furries might become interested in lolita. they might sexualize it by virtue of it being in a furry group. isn't it better that she posts it in a space where there are other people who understand the fashion?
>>10938932kek it's fine if you find furries/animatronics creepy but seeing you literally cope and seethe so hard about it is fucking hilarious. ppl have been combining different fashions with lolita for a long time (hime gyaru/lolita, decora/lolita, pastel goth (when that was still a thing)/lolita etc.) and no matter how hard you rage about it they're not going to stop anytime soon, so i recommend you conserve your energy and worry about more important things in the community, like actual fetishists or predators
>>10938932sounds like you have a personal problem you expect everyone else to cater to out of pure entitlement.
>>10938795I don’t fuck with furries but this girl is actually nice and level headed. She won’t sperg at you if you disagree with her like some other entitled zoomers will. If we are going to have furries I’d rather them at least dress nicely rather than neon bullshit clashing. There are worse offenders in this community who make lolita suck.>>10938899 >frankly the mindset that any woman caught doing anything even tangentially related to sex is an evil witch corrupting the fashion is patently misogynistic.Fucking this.
>>10938921>>10938953>>10938926The samefagging is extra obvious when both agreeing replies are linked to the wrong post
>>10938937Maybe if you actually read a GLB for once in your life instead of spending all of your time sperging on 4chan about how much you hate other women you'd know and wouldn't need to be spoonfed.
>>10938955That so?
>>10938937It's been done. Y'all are acting like this or third eye-chan is new to you. Not saying it's good but it's weird people don't know brands have dabbled or who she is. The coord is nice. Maybe one dau she will let go of the head, but this one is the best one so far.
>>10938974The difference is that these actually look good and not like a deformed mouth breathing cereal mascot.
>>10938975quit malding about furries and post itas or gtfo
My favorite ita, it is impressive she's able to look this consistently bad all the time.
>>10939020A wig would improve this immensely. Other things too but that's the thing that bothers me most when she crosses my feed
>>10938956This isn't furry and you already know that. I was specific for that reason. I have the large majority of GLBs, there are probably no more than 2 or 3 instances of actual furries in it. You being pro furry would know exactly which issue, which is why I asked. To be even more specific, how many appearances have you seen in the GLB of furry mixed with lolita fashion?
>>10939021She'd probably look acceptable if she lost the excess weight, grew out her hair (she needs some face framing pieces though) or got a really good looking wig, wore lolita shoes and developed some better taste.
>>10939037how many examples do you need to be satisfied that people mix the two? none? yeah we know. but you'll be pedantic and annoying about it anyway.
>>10939042Other people are not going to stop gatekeeping what constitutes a true lolita coordinate to satisfy you, furries, fatties, AGPs, or anything else. That's why the fashion has survived so long.
>>10939052You're the one asking others to gatekeep to satisfy you personally. Nice projection.
>>10939037The head she's wearing also isn't western furry and you know that.
>>10939051Someone rescue strawberry-chan
>>10939054I'm not asking for shit lmao. The gatekeeping just IS. It's both an established rule and a supported rule. Everyone knows that anon. Maybe you don't understand what this fashion is.
>>10938913Anon, she posted it in r/Lolita. This is a reddit ita post. It's easy to confirm that she's posted this in the Lolita reddit group. I honestly think you're mad that you got posted, honey. It's okay. Just understand that Lolita is not about fursuits. It's about Lolita fashion. If your suit is drawing more attention than your coord, you failed to make a Lolita coord. You make good coords in theory, so maybe consider investing in a few good wigs. When you post coords in a fursuit and tag them as Lolita, eventually you will get posted. Take the advice so you can stop being an ita.
>>10939061can you read anon? I never said it wasn't a reddit post. anon I replied to was complaining that this girl is posting only furry content on her instagram and is apparently confused by that. no-one is arguing with you over this furry being ita or not. you're also clearly obsessed and think everyone is her. get help
again, quit shitting up the thread with your furry rage and post itas
>>10939061>You make good coords in theory, so maybe consider investing in a few good wigssorry, but do you even know who this person is? she wears lolita outside the suit, too.
>>10939071wow all Moitié how original. this brand ita can't coord for shit.
>>10939075good lord your vendetta against this chick is actually embarrassing. take a deep breath and seek help
>>10939076The fact that you can't tell the other anon wasn't me tells me your fashion sense isn't the only sense lacking. Anyways:
>>10939077This is fine, she just needs better legwear and a face sticker.
>>10939071uh i hate furlita too but >>10939071 is a perfectly cute coord, albeit unoriginal.
>>10939071doesn't she wear replicas?
>>10939051Honestly shocked that most of them are wearing proper shoes.
>>10939076>>10939080it's just her selfposting retarded criticism in an attempt to strawman the people justly telling her her fursuit looks like shit
>>10939051someone keeps posting the girl on the far right here but why bring her whole comm into it?
wa is to modern itas what the blackxwhite ruffle monster was to itas of yester year. Can we stop trying to make wa happen please. Also idk why this girl only takes coord photos in the walmart sock aisle.
>>10939087kind of boring/beginner but I wouldn't say this is ita. Clothes look like they fit, there's cohesion in items picked, there is nice color balance throughout.
>>10939042I know that some people mix the two. It seems you're trying to argue that it should be acceptable in the western comm because "it's in the GLB".If there were a significant amount of examples of actual furry being combined with lolita in the GLBs, suggesting the possibility of it being acceptable in the japanese comm, you would have already shared exactly which issues these were in.There is no proof of furries being widely accepted in the japanese comm. I doubt they're widely accepting of cute mascot suits (not furry) worn with lolita at private events/meets either. Japanese lolitas dislike the exact same misconceptions made about lolita as the western comm does and complain about it in pretty much the same way we do. They're generally less accepting of men attending events/meets compared to the western comm, do you honestly think they like to be seen with furries considering that furries are wearing actual costumes that hide their identity, and that furry looks a lot more weird than lolita does? It only makes sense the general public would think furries have a fetish (which happens to be true for a significant part of the furry community), and that japanese lolitas don't want to be seen with them for the same reasons the western comm doesn't want to be seen with furries.Just in case you have a view of japanese lolitas as being way more open and accepting of who attends their events and what's considered lolita, the western comm is generally more open and accepting.>>10939055it's furry.
>>10939067this is indeed scary, just not in the way he thinks it is.Everything about this picture is horrible, no matter where you look. The coord, the hair, the floor, the nest, etc.>>10939077not good, but also not ita tier>>10939087would be acceptable if she wore a suitable blouse>>10939088the blouse doesn't fit her>>10939086isn't that the person who runs DollBe? If so, I haven't noticed her being posted a lot. Maybe you're confusing her with another black obese lolita. I could be wrong though.
>>10939094AYRT but that's not the DollBe owner; she just happens to wear a lot of DollBe but the past few ita threads have had her posted. Not sure if it's a personal vendetta at this point.
>>10939090the suit in your post gives me the ick. the original one we've been talking about doesn't. wonder why.
>>10939097Just because you like one fucking fursuit over the other doesn't charge the fact that they are both ita. You have to be trolling atp.
>>10939090Fursuits in lolita rarely look good, if at all.The furry community is overrun by gross fetishists. Rainfurrest 2015 was peak furry cringe and pretty much solidified my general distrust of furries. People will try to say being a furry and being a lolita isn’t much different but it most certainly is. I don’t know why we are still having this discussion. Sorry that coomers and degens ruined the furry community but the fetishes are so intertwined into the furry community, I don’t think it’s possible to separate them at this point.
>>10939045I got questions about what the fuck they did to the proportions on this jsk. Are they using the waist ties?? I'm so confused.It's like they're made of gumby or some shit.
>>10939075so furry coords are ita but perfectly fine all brand coords are also ita? you sound like such a miserable bitch desu do you browse the ita threads just to trigger yourself into oblivion or smth?
>>10939097The colors and the expression. I think they're both still creepy though.
>>10939107https://lolibrary.org/items/meta-jewel-leopard-low-waist-pinafore-jsk this is the original. It's supposed to be low waisted. It could be the weird fit is caused by the wearer being taller than it was intended for, and the big sweater stuffed inside causing the lumpy look.
>>10939096OP here idk who that woman is, this whole comm is just ita sans Strawberrychan.
>>10939112NAYRT- Not having any sense of style is ita, but if you can only coordinate if you buy all the same brand, you are uncreative and suck at styling. Being uncreative is definitely not the same as being ita.
>>10939051I know some of the people in this pic are fatties but strawberry-Chan is being so stretched out by this photo she doesn't look like this on insta she doesn't deserve this indignity
>>10939116wow it's... an interesting art project but why in the world you wear shoes that look like something the alien from Alien shat out. also she needs to steam that op
>>10939127I want to start a GoFundMe for lolitas who don't have a steamer. It changed my life.
>>10939120Anyone who is so focused on everything being brand-name when lolita is about silhouette and style is ITA! Also, the coord is boring AF. There is nothing that makes it her own except for her body.
>>10939130maybe not the place for this discussion but i'm curious why boring/mundane but still visually appealing coords are looked down on. not every coordinate has to be creative or unique, considering they're just clothes that people wear.
>>10939130>Also, the coord is boring AF.Screams conlita
>>10939120>if you can only coordinate if you buy all the same brand,I swear, from which hole have you all crawled? There's no way this isn't just bait. Coording only one brand is the epitome of Lolita Fashion. Dressing head to toe with your favourite brand is not only a declaration of love, but a testament to the way Lolita fashion first originated in the east. My wardrobe only has VM, and I would rather kill someone than stain it with any other low-tier brand. Your argument is simply despicable, I can only assume you're a moid larping. Yuck
>>10939133nayrt, they mean that it's much easier to make a decent looking coord if everything in the coord is from the same brand because it's more likely that pieces from the same brand will match aesthetically and less likely to clash.It's not as easy to make a decent outfit if you're mixing brands. You have to be able to know what to pick to make a cohesive and goodlooking coord when mixing brands. A decent looking full brand coord is not necessarily an indicator of skill, whilst if someone has multiple good looking mixed brand coords it most likely is an indicator they know how to coord well.This does not mean wearing a full brand coord, or even only wearing full brand coords means you can't coord well. In some cases it does, for example when a beginner buys a full set because it's a safe choice.Assuming someone can't coord just because they only wear the same brand is weird though.
>>10939126The pic does feel really stretched out just looking at the calves of strawberry chan bunny bag chan and brown apron chan. Makes the bigger ones look even wider unfortunately.
>>10939135It's normal though? Brand loyalty is common for lolita, and in the japanese community single brand coords are especially common. Coordinating different brands together isn't bad either, but it's not necessarily harder. Aside from full sets from the same release, brand items aren't always going to look good with other items from the same brand. You still have to be able to match motifs and choose items that are flattering both with each other and on your body. "Single brand coords are boring" just sounds like some taobaolita sour grapes to me.
Say it's a fetish without saying it's a fetish.
>>10939116what are those fuck ugly shoes? forget the rest of the ita shit, what the fuck>>10939138bdsm choker, dogshit makeup, probably says theyre "erolita">>10939118onision? that you?>>10939090that fucking OP is actually disgusting looking. plus the fursuit is just bad. at least the mascot suits look more cutesy
>>10939138If she doesn't show some cleavage then people will focus on her weird face.
>>10939137ayrt, yes I agree it's normal. Nearly all of my coords are one brand.A lot of lolitas I really like the style of do mix brands, usually old school meta with other brand items from the era, I also follow japanese lolitas who mostly wear btssb. And you're right that not everything a brand makes will work with some of their other items.I still think that for beginners buying full sets can help disguise a lack of coording skill, but honestly that is not necessarily a bad thing. Starting with a decent quality full set is a much better start than most are getting because it definitely helps to see decent quality up close and to wear it. Some lolitas think that the lower budget brand stuff they get is good quality because they have nothing better to compare it to.Regarding the "single brand coords are boring" I do kind of understand where that mindset might be coming from. Some people think the cookie cutter approach to coording an outfit from one brand, as if you've just stepped out of a brand ad, is boring. There are non cookie cutter ways to coord a single brand coord that still look good but I usually don't see those much at all in the western comm. ime the people saying that single brand coords are boring are sometimes too focused on trying to appear creative and edgy for clout.I really like the cookie cutter approach to coording a single brand outfit. I think it looks polished. I also like non cookie cutter approach and want to try to do that more as well. I don't personally associate the "single brand coords are boring" mindset with lolitas who have a closet full of low budget chinese brands but I honestly don't get much interaction with them in the first place. It's easy for me to stay within a specific bubble. All of the people in my local comm who share their coord pictures who did once wear lower budget chinese brands now no longer wear them. Aside from my local comm I mainly interact with lolitas with similar aesthetic preferences.
>>10939142I hate that meta OP as well. I also think japanese mascot suits are cuter and less unsettling looking. Definitely less creepy than furries but I probably still wouldn't want mascot suit wearers in my local comm you know.>>10939138did she tag this as lolita and did she post this to any lolita groups? If this was posted to a lolita group then the mods aren't doing their duty well. She's wearing an actual leash.
https://discord.gg/RnV8m4XZtgLolita server, just for funsies! we have letterboxd and last.fm, very small… (◡)
>>10938948>ppl have been combining different fashions with lolita for a long timeFurry isn't a fashion, retard. It's a costume.
>>10938779She's been told in the comments to change it, but other MSs litterally started defending this hot mess as well... it's the blind leading the blinb
>>10939118Someone rescue that poor fantastic bunny.
>>10938781Not the BJD doll tights not even reaching his knees lwdfgboqgoijerqgiheilug
>>10939087God I hate that blouse. I had one like this in my babylita days and not only is it cheap looking asf, it's also uncomfortable to wear, and I'm not even fat
>>10939116Shoes look like freaking elephant penises why wtf why
>>10939145>>10939156"She", this is a man nonnies. Check the farms.
>>10939132Imagine being so one dimensional. You can wear all brand but spice it up and show your taste, genius. Poor people are not the only ones who,or try new things. High quality accessories exist outside of the big brands as well. This is why the trends and prints in lolita suck now. No one wants to be bold and be a trendsetter.
>>10939192Imo most quality accessories are not from lolita brands. Q-pot for instance.
>>10938784Where the fuck do these people get their inspiration from
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9awBFAPGrY/?igsh=MjU0dXd5NDAwbDFh
>>10939133you're so insane lol
>>10939192>. No one wants to be bold and be a trendsetter.Typical tiktoker conlita mindset. People just want to wear the clothes they like, Karen. Not everyone aspire to be a literal clown like you
>>10939296Nayrt but you lack whimsy and joy if you never get creative with your coords for special occasions or comm meets. Work/school/errands are where the lifestylers wear their toned down stuff, so take the stick out of your ass and have some fun every now and again. This fashion is both a lifestyle and a creative outlet!
>>10939131it's an ita mindset imo. itas are often attention whores who think they're "one upping" everyone else in their comm if they look the craziest (they think the point of lolita is the attention you get from strangers, instead of simply wearing clothes that you like) so they're allergic to lowkey, cute coords.
>>10939304nayrt but coordinates with full brand don't necessarily mean someone isn't creative, which is what the other anon is trying to explain to you. also a singular pic isn't enough information to go off of in regards to if they experiment or not. full brand is so common in the fashion that I'd say it's creative in of itself. especially with brands like btssb where it's extremely common to see a full set with the heart bag and mini kumyas.
>>10939306I'm not the person that is being explained at, I just wanted to chime in. I wear lowkey coords and baby set coords at my work but I like overdressing too, so I save that for comm meets and tea parties and holidays. I think being rigidly against either feels stagnant and it reeks of insecurity to shit on people for mixing it up on occasion.
>>10939324(addition, in case it's not obvious I'm not the person being weird about single brand coords, I think the furry's moitie coord is cute. There is a reason why single brand/release coords are common: it's because they usually look good! I just ALSO find enjoyment in putting together items that are not all from the same brand or release) desu
>>10939324no one said you couldn't mix brands, just that monobrand coords aren't boring.
>>10939329Agreed, anon!
>>10938790really showing that you're not gothic. navy and black together are incredibly common. also since when are we going by normie color rules when sweet lolitas wear entire pastel rainbows at once
>>10938974i'm neutral on the coord everyone's arguing over, but just wanting to point out that a brand doing a photoshoot and dressing the models and/or set to an unrealistic degree isn't really comparable to an individual wearing clothing in their own time. not really a good comparison/example to support your point
>>10938981Had an involuntary full-body shudder when i looked at this...
>>10939368Yeah and a coord shot posted online isn't necessarily representative of what that girl wears in regular life or to meet ups, what's your point?
Can posts be ita?
>>10939372Nayrt, but I think she has a good point.Crazy brand photoshoots with weird props for example, the brand isn't saying you're supposed to wear the clothes that way. An individual lolita can do an over the top photoshoot, but it's never as crazy as brand photoshoots and (I assume) they're actually wearing the outfit out. Usually to an event if the outfit has more frills and lace compared to their usual. There have been crazy props in magazine photoshoots over the years, that you are clearly not supposed to emulate, creepy animal heads aren't any different. Remember that IW photoshoot with (what I can only describe as) a popeye mask? It's probably some traditional Japanese thing, but that's besides the point.Are you going to put on a popeye mask and argue that you should be allowed to wear it in lolita spaces, and anyone who doesn't like it is a bigot who doesn't know what they're talking about, and one of your points is that there's precedent because "there have been plenty of masks in the GLB, Japanese lolitas aren't bothered by it"?Regardless if you understand the point or not, if you're going to wear that popeye mask (or an animal head) to a meet unannounced, and it will be unannounced because mods won't let you attend if they knew beforehand, you will either be told to remove it or be kicked out. In case your mods don't have the guts to tell you to do that people will just say they have to leave and proceed to have a fun day with their lolita friends. They will probably even regroup and resume the comm meet after you are gone.With all the discussion whether furries should be allowed in lolita spaces or not there is no actual danger of being stuck with a furry at a meet because realistically speaking people will just do what I described. It doesn't matter how many pro furry arguments you present, people are not going to accept it.
>>10939377This is the kind of thing usually borne out of the trendsetter mentality the other anon mentioned earlier.
>>10939377my eyes are bleeding reading this
>>10939389Who said she wore it to a meet? All of her furry shots seem to be taken in her own home, and it wouldn't be hard to just take the head and gloves off before leaving. It kind of sounds like making up a problem to get mad at.
>>10939424i am not even part of this convo but furries are weird, why can't you just accept that? just embrace the weird instead of being so set on being accepted by random communities. why can't you be a furry who wears lolita but not be part of the lolita comm? just grow up.
>>10939427Why can't you just grow up and accept that not everyone has to cater to your taste just because you seethe about it on a canadian basket weaving forum
>>10939424ayrt, I didn't imply any particular individual would wear it to a meet. Some lolitas are scared that some furry is going to come to their local comm meet if they can't convince the furries to stay away. In the end it doesn't matter if lolitas can't convince them that furries aren't welcome and have no business being in lolita spaces, if they make it to the meet with their fur suit or partial suit they're either going to be kicked out immediately and if they aren't then no-one is actually stuck with them. That means there's nothing on the line, therefore we can stop trying to convince the furries that they shouldn't be in lolita spaces. It's wasted effort since they don't want to see it our way anyway and they've already demonstrated that they don't respect boundaries by not taking no for an answer.And that's assuming they even get into the local comm online in the first place. They probably won't be let in, so they wouldn't even know when and where the meet would be.So we can all relax and stop with the heated back and forth.If you're a furry, how about starting your own online lolita furry group? You'll be among like minded individuals and you'll be welcome there, sounds like a lot more fun to me if I was a furry. What does not sound like a good time to me is going to a group where you aren't welcome, people are avoiding contact with you and don't want to be seen with you.Actually I would be surprised if there wasn't already a lolita furry discord.
>>10939461you are assuming that anyone would be afraid of being ostracized like it's some sort of mean girls club. this isn't early 2000s anymore grandma, bullying is corny and lame. do these isolation tactics actually work for you? you must not have a job or hobbies and an inflated selfworth to think your opinion on someone matters that much. also, you are projecting very heavily if you think that wearing a furry suit means they're wearing it to comm meets. how did you even jump to that conclusion? sounds like you're starting to paint your own narratives here.
>>10939463Take your meds
>>10939368Follow the comment chain; response was given to someone asked if it had been seen before in places like the GLB. A brand making an advertisement for that magazine or one relative is indeed comparable. It demonstrates what they asked for and that it is known to happen. location or purpose is irrelevant as it only demonstrates cross over and familiarity in the past. Outside of this a brand doing something sets a precedent. It could be detrimental or accidental but they set wheels in motion. Brands are inspired and they then inspire others. Hime, ears, raschel, sleep mask, pumpkin pants, etc have all been things the western comm questioned but brands did.
>>10939461This is a lot of mental gymnastics to vilify one well dressed woman who happens to sometimes wear a kemono style furry head with her coords.
>>10939465Someone claimed more than one actual furry head was seen in the GLB and attempted to convince others it was acceptable in japan and therefore within japanese lolita fashion spaces as well.When asked in which issues there were actual furry heads worn with lolita no information was offered.A photoshoot with animal heads (not the furry variety) was posted instead, however this does not back up the claim that was made of there being furries in the GLB and especially not proof of there being furry worn with lolita in the GLB.A brand involving animal heads, creepy masks or semi automatic rifles in a photoshoot does not prove that these things are acceptable with lolita fashion outside of the brand photoshoot setting.Context matters a lot and cannot be ignored. A lot of different props have been used in brand photoshoots. You cannot expect it to be acceptable outside of that context and think that claiming "there's precedent because of a brand photoshoot" makes it acceptable just in case anyone questions you.Even moreso if furry was widely accepted within the Japanese lolita community and there was no problem wearing it to private lolita events in japan, that still does not mean it's acceptable within the western community. You could argue that it's not right that the western comm has a problem with something the Japanese comm has no problem with, but if you are trying to be accepted within the western lolita community then it's the rules and norms within the western community that matter the most. Furries are not on the same level as the western comm thinking striped socks were ita at some point, you would still be allowed to participate within the online and offline comm wearing striped socks. Most western lolita comms would not allow furries (with the full or partial fur suit) to participate online and offline. Just for the record: there's nothing suggesting that furry is generally accepted within the Japanese community.
>>10939471Ayrt: like I have already said before it still isn't specifically about that one individual woman. It's about the acceptability of furries in the western lolita comm in general. A lot of people who claim to wear furry and lolita have said they would love to attend lolita meets wearing a fur suit. Most lolitas don't want this to happen.It's obvious a lot of people in the western lolita community don't like to see furries within lolita community spaces at all. Nothing is going to change that. I don't currently see how the conversation about this topic could continue without simply emphasising and clarifying points that were already made, so unless you have a new point to offer we are pretty much done here.
>>10939464>get called out for terminal online bully tactics over a thing most people don't gaf about>lol take med sure jan.
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>>10939483>bully tacticsNta but it’s literally debate. Don’t try to act like a victim here. Sorry no one posted in your kemonomimi thread.
>>10939486The sheer retardation of the posters on r/lolita to participate in this ghoul's humiliation fetish by giving him bonnet recommendations when it takes less than 2 seconds of scrolling his account to find his activity in abdl subreddits. As if his appearance alone wasn't enough of a tell that he's getting off on it. TTD NOW!
>>10939473>>10939474No one cares.
>>10939489men who wear ouji should off themselves.
>>10939483>>10939493you obviously care because otherwise this wouldn't get you so riled up you can't even keep things civil>>10939490this 100% and it's very hypocritical of them to say other people are using "bully tactics" when it's really just debate, and they themselves always resort to attacking the individual instead of their points.
>>10939490>it's fine to silently shun people from comm meets like a soggy bitch>if you don't agree you're a furrysure jan.
>>10939511>it's fine to silently shun people from comm meetsyes, good you understand that people cannot be forced to socialize with you in their free time so they limit their interaction with you. When a guy gets too creepy we do the same thing
>>10939511you should found an organization dedicated to stopping bullying within the lolita community. give it a relevant acronym or something
>>10939515nayrt but "FLAB" Furry Lolitas Against Bullying.
>>10939515it's not even bullying if you see someone for the first time and decide that you don't want to get to know them further than a polite introduction. I don't consider it bullying if you hang out with some lolitas more than others. Does she expect that we spend equal amounts of time on everyone at the meet or even in our local comm? And if we don't it's "shunning and bullying tactics".... It's quite funny that she sees the person everyone is trying to avoid as the victim and does not take the fact that everyone is trying to avoid them as a sign that this is someone who is inflicting themselves upon others and making everyone uncomfortable. Her view of who the victim(s) and culprit(s) are is the wrong way around.
>>10939503The fact you think everyone who disagrees with you must be the same anon really speaks volumes.
>>10939051Far left needs some guidance but she's not a lost cause. I can see her improving with time. Far right would probably be fine if she wasn't so fat. Second from right looks fine. Back seven it's hard to tell when you can only see part of them. Worst offenders are by far the red dress and the one with the sun hat.
>>10939515Just don't fart at a meet.
>>10939521>>10939493 and >>10939483 were talking about how much people don't care about the topic, saying that you do care (because obviously you do regardless if it's two different people making a similar point or the same person) is 100% accurate and not an assumption I was talking to the same person. "You" was used in plural, which is a thing that can be done in the English language. Look at that, I'm even giving you a free English lesson.>>10939488I don't even see which look they are aiming at with this.>>10939489My attention was stuck at the weird looking purple poodle in the background.
>>10939531That's basic manners, it's what toilets are for.
>>10938206They do the tit chop since most of them identity as "non-binary"
>>10938910>weirdly targeted racist comment asideLota black people use the word "ghetto" as a stand in for "cheap looking" in their communities, how about doing some research before trying to be a white savior
>>10939553very strange to chop your boobs off (not a reduction, a deletion) and then try to wear lolita which is one of the most feminine fashions possible.I mean sure, if you're 18 you can do whatever you want with your body including a double mastectomy just because you feel like it, and I agree that you should have the freedom to choose this for yourself, but I sure hope no government is paying for self claimed non binaries to have that surgery.
>>10939020>>10939021>>10939039her facial expression combined with the extra weight makes her look mentally challenged, if she learnt to smile properly and lost the weight she'd look much better
>>10939559>and then try to wear lolita which is one of the most feminine fashions possible.is caz most of them feel insecure in their femininty unless they ''balance it'' out with something ''masculine'' short hair, no chest, their brainrot is so bad they think everything feminine is very problematic and upholding of patriarchy, i agree with you they should do anything they want with their bodies as well as i wished their communities shined more light on some complications that can arise from a minor painful tingling sensation for the rest of ones life to people actively encouraging fat people to go to clinics that would that operation for them despite the frequently possibility of infection and the skin splinting apart caz of the fat
>>10939305>>10939296I've never noticed this mindset before but you're so right, most of the newer younger members of my com that flounced had this mindset and seemed to be trying to one up or stand out from the more experienced lolitas
>>10938923i am happy all of them get mouth piercings, cant wait for them to cry out about nerve pain because of the gum reduction in a few years
>>10939377this person stinks of tiktok brainrot
>>10939051The nasty faggot men on the left and the one in the back are so utterly sickening. Someone post more of them, they need to feel ostracized more than the sad ita women.
Wtf is this
>>10939659i think tiktok kids would call it '''''''melaniemartinezcore''''''
>>10939471>>10939463Sorry you got posted. Lots of damage control in the thread over an ita fucking furry.>>10938848Not ita.
>>10939659For the first time in a long time this is a coord that actually made my eyes hurt. Not even an exaggeration. My eyes literally don’t know where to focus.
>>10939489ok but how did this person get the ok to take a picture inside the store
>>10939554just say you used "ghetto" because she's black, nonna. you don't need to be racist on the downlow here.
>>10939631say it again for 3 more times
>>10939703>black? look again>>10938899
>>10939725that's not her, retard.
>>10939738??then why did you talked about her while posting an unrelated image, thats why people say ''pic unrelated'', integrate newbie
>>10939744i didn't post >>10938899, i'm just replying to you. you sound like the newbie lmao
>>10939744>newbiego back faggot
>>10939747>newbiethe correct term is newfag
>>10939744don't get mad cause you can't read and don't understand context, nonna. that's all on you for being retarded lmao.
>>10939857eh, it's a cosplay, who cares if it's bad
post title was "Lolita outfit"
>>10939934Beat me to it
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>>10939943pov: you are a lolita in brazil
>>10938187cute slampigge
>>10939945I feel like this could be cute with a different blouse
>>10939959and different shoes...
>>10939959>>10939960there's no black on the dress, and all the pastels are clashing, but at least she isn't unkempt. maybe if the blouse and socks were black she'd look fine.
Does no one wear sweet anymore that isn't ita?I was browsing closet of frills on FB and it looks like it's all just taobao itas now with a few old school sprinkled in between.
>>10939981I like this skirt, what is it called?
>>10939978not since 2014
>>10939978newfags are cheap and don't want to bother buying brand and old school is the most popular style at the moment just like sweet had a chokehold in the 2010s. I see more sweet coords on insta anyway but there has been a few decent sweet coords posted in cof here and there.
>>10939978COF is dead ngl. most lolitas who dress decently have moved to IG/private discord servers/don't post online at all
>>10939978Sweet has always attracted the most itas. They don't like elegance which is one reason you see fewer itas in classic and gothic lolita. Lots of itas are fat and sweet has more plus sized options. That's another reason they don't wear classic and gothic as much, fewer size options. Old school also tends to not go as big, so unless they get full shirring for everything they don't have many options. Like the other anon said, they're too cheap to buy jpn brand. Not just the beginners, the perma itas too.So basically if it's cheap, brightly colored and has lots of size options you're going to get itas.>>10940004It seems she's a regular here, it's like she can't do one proper lolita coord and always has to use normie stuff. Maybe she's colorblind as well.>>10940006This>>10940032Like a villain in a movie with a historical setting. Scrooge.>>10940036Reminds me of >>10940004 style.
>>10940032Esslingen?
>>10939998at least she is got the right face for it
>>10940058As a beginner, may I ask what makes those coords ita? I'd like to know what to avoid in the future, aside from the obvious stuff like clashing colors, not styling your hair, etc. The shoes and the socks are definitely an eyesore, though.
>>10940097these black turtlenecks under dresses need to be banned...i get that it's trying to be a hachi reference, but it's an eyesore, especially with that wig and bjd tights as well.
>>10940097why does this look like a creep shot and not something she posted herself
>>10940038i kinda fuck with this one. good for halloween season
>>10940197She posted this ugly outfit on TikTok herself
>>10940138Dresses are not even Lolita
>>10940138The dresses are too short and look like they couldn’t fit a petticoat underneath. They don’t follow the lolita silhouette at all.
>>10938944sorry you got posted barbara
