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>>10938931does moon kana still sell these?
>>10938933yes, though there currently isnt any available. she announced a couple months ago that she plans to launch online sales soon.
Are their any new or active gyaru brands online? everything else has either shut down or shifted to jirai kei and himekaji stuff.
where do you recommend buying decent quality affordable wigs for lolita and other jfashion coords? I like maple wigs in terms of thickness, styles, colors, and price but they all have that fake shiny look and the one dreamholic wig I own is very thin and sheds a ton.
>>10939092both Maple and DH have their issues. If you're looking for more natural looking wig with bangs I suggest going to a store that sells wigs. The shops geared towards the black community usually have comfortable and affordable options, the price quality ratio is better than Maple and DH. Some brands have unusual colors like emerald green or cotton candy pink, but they're not the norm. Whilst you can find synthetic wigs that have far less of that fake shiny look compared to Maple and DH, as long as it's synthetic you will always be able to tell no matter how many tips and tricks you try. Depends on how okay you are with it not looking real.You can get a basic human hair wig for 100~150$ which usually comes in a natural black/dark brown, but you can bleach, dye, cut and pluck it yourself. You can get hh wigs that have already been cut, dyed and styled in a certain look for under 300$ in including some unnatural colors.Beware of scams, these are not uncommon with wig sellers.
>>10939092brightlelecyperous
Does maple not sell their ringlet wig anymore? If so I need a good ringlet wig recommendation. I love how they look so much.
>>10939111They just rereleased them.
>>10939095this is terrible advice. no one here is getting human hair lacefront baddie wigs to wear for lolita.
Does anyone know of any lolita-related brands that have fine jewelry or engagement ring collections? I considered VW but they only sell costume jewelry and Q-pot is a little too food themed
>>10939266No. You're better off looking for vintage estate jewelry if you want something that goes well with lolita.
>>10939259I never said lacefront baddie wigs. HH wigs with bangs are more affordable than lacefront wigs and it's really easy to find hh wigs in standard lolita styles.I know that for some people wearing synthetic wigs is acceptable and that they were used in lolita publications. However, there are plenty of lolitas (myself included) who think synthetic wigs look bad. Anon complained about "that fake shiny look" and the reality is that you will never be able to get rid of that tell tale shine on synthetic hair. If that bothers you HH is the only other option.
What's happening at moitie salon rn? Any news worth subscribing to?
>>10939266For really special items like engagement rings I recommend reaching out to your local jeweler to make a custom one, it's not necessarily super expensive compared to buying off the shelf especially if you're cool with colored gemstones and lab gems as opposed to the normie "slap the biggest diamond possible on a plain band" approach. I designed my own ring and sent the drawing to the jeweler, who also made a sample 3D model and a wax model, and it was about $1600.These aren't specifically lolita-focused brands but Oore has a ethereal nature-inspired style and Soulbound makes delicate vidya and anime-inspired jewelry, they may appeal to a lolita. Oore in particular has pretty fair prices for the complexity of her work, I'm probably getting my wedding band there.
>>10939345No
>>10939364Geez, it's so slow over there. I subscribe and unsubscribe from time to time expecting something new, but they sometimes spend weeks without any update.
Any anons interested in a craft thread? I was going to start one but I don't want to be the only poster.
I’m curious about the OTT Classic Lolita era. Please tell me how it came to be and how it was influence by the historical costuming community
any advice on securing acrylic stands to itabags?
Wtf is OTT Classic
>>10940420a mistake. stop asking.
How much white lace on a black dress is considered to be ita? For example, would the dress shown be considered ita due to how much lace is on it or are the obvious lace monsters the only ones with that combo considered ita?>>10940385>any advice on securing acrylic stands to itabags?I haven't found a good solution either, but I can tell you what I have been using & one method that doesn't work.>What's currently workingPlastic badge covers (think of those holders for workplace IDs). I've been using them for one of my itabags & it works (or at least is working until I can find something better). Of course, it's going to depend on how big your acrylics are, but for some smaller ones, the badge thing works.>What doesn't workDouble sided tape. Acrylics don't seem to take very well to the tape since they're so thick. Against a fabric backdrop they hold on somewhat, but separate themselves (the acrylic + tape from the fabric) with too much movement.Here's some links as examples for the badge covers.>shop.daisosingapore.com.sg/collections/sckey-rings/products/4550480125169>shop.daisosingapore.com.sg/collections/sckey-rings/products/4549131922295>shop.daisosingapore.com.sg/collections/sckey-rings/products/4549131581928Good luck anon!
>>10940567That dress isn't ita, although it's not really to my taste. There isn't a hard and fast rule about quantity of lace, it just depends on the quality of the lace and the design as a whole. BTSSB's Elizabeth OP is covered in contrasting lace but it's one of the most iconic lolita dresses ever.
Do you hace any tips for ironing lolita dresses?
>>10940567It's not really about the amount of lace. More about the quality of the lace and the fabric, dress design and placement of the lace.>>10940579 brings up a good point by mentioning Elizabeth.
>>10940580Use the general ironing advice for the fabric it's made out of. Some fabrics shouldn't be ironed or require extra care. If you get smooth results with a steamer alone then don't bother ironing.
Does anyone have recs for a good jp proxy service that has IOSS that isn't zenmarket? My customs are hell and always try to upcharge my items value + charges for not using IOSS.Should I just bite the bullet and give up undervaluing items for zenmarket's IOSS?
>>10940579>That dress isn't itaI didn't say that it was, I was asking if it would be considered ita because of its black & white with lace combo.>There isn't a hard and fast rule about quantity of lace, it just depends on the quality of the lace and the design as a whole. >>10940588 Mentioned this as well. >BTSSB's Elizabeth OP is covered in contrasting lace but it's one of the most iconic lolita dresses ever.I haven't kept up with anything BTSSB related in a long time, so I had to look this one up. The dress really is definitely cute in pink & all white & all black versions, but it just feels odd to have so much lace on a dress like that. Maybe something like the Elizabeth OP isn't for me, but I'll do more research when it comes to lace on dresses.Pic is of the first two dresses that I bought last year when I first started wearing lolita officially
>>109406422nd ayrt,I understand the Elizabeth design in the colourways with more contrast can be a lot if you're not used to seeing it/you're not into old school. I have always considered it a dress that I liked looking at on other people but would not wear myself because it's just not me, despite loving old school btssb in general.
>>10940385Given what >>10940567 mentioned you could possibly experiment with creating your own plastic covers for bigger stands using non-adhesive plastic book covers. I've also used modified TCG card sleeves to secure smaller acrylic keychains and miscellaneous merch onto an insert.Alternatively if you're using a hard mesh insert you could try using clear fishing wire to "tie" the standee to the back (could thread it through the cloth if you're using a cover on top of the mesh) but this is very dependent on the standee's pose, or else the figure might slip out over time.
Am I too big for most old school skirts if my waist is 27 inches? I really want an older cotton skirt from AP or Baby but whenever they come up in the market the waist is always around 23-25 inches
>>10940784just lose weight then retard
>>10940784possibly? if the skirt has partial shirring, you can always alter part of the shirring to better fit it, though. i'm only an inch smaller than you but find i'm basically max on a lot of them and need to alter the shirring or move buttons around to be comfortable. but ymmv. some people don't mind feeling a little constricted.also idk much about ap but if you want cotton skirts in old school style, there's always the btssb classical series stuff which appears to be sized slightly larger.
Opinions on AngelEgg?
>>10941062The owner is an amateur, but the pricing isn't bad for 100% cotton, so you mostly get what you pay for. Her customs are higher quality IME. I miss her headdresses.
>>10941062She's improving in terms of both skill and design, and the skirts are good for daily wear. Worth checking out.
Has anyone been able to identify why Japanese secondhand clothes all smell the same? No matter if I buy from ClosetChild or Mercari, there's this light, clean scent that smells divine, and I now associate it with lolita. Is it a detergent, a fabric softener, or something in the air?
>>10941086I think it's mothballs.
>>10941087>mothballsDon't those smell bad though? The secondhand smell is pleasant.
>>10941086Anti mold spray
>>10940580Steaming is your friend
Is amavel considered a lolita brand?Since in Instagram they always tag their clothes as lolita but in western jfashion spaces still consider them to be a girly-kei brand
anyone know when lacemarket will be back up? any plans from the mods for maintenance?
>>10941155It is not, but some people use some amavel stuff in lolita coords like blouses etc. But no I wouldn't consider them a lolita brand.
>>10941155like >>10941162 mentioned some of their items can be used in a lolita coordinate but they themselves are not a lolita brand. Not to westerners anyway, I don't know how japanese lolitas categorize Amavel.
>>10941161It's back up!
>>10941155it's loliable, but not a lolita brand per se.>>10941180Most seem to call it lolita-esque. Not too different from what the west thinks of it. You'll occasionally see people calling it lolita but most of them seem to be normies or newbies.
>>10941193Thank you. That was informative.
>>10941205From what I'm getting it seems like they have similar arguments over "what is and isn't lolita" in Japan with similar (if not the same) discussion points that we see in western circles. Generally speaking it's agreed that these brands (Amavel, Axes Femme, etc.) will occasionally release items that can be loliable but the brands themselves aren't considered dedicated lolita brands.
>>10941242I remember seeing that "do you consider this lolita?" poll about Pink House on one of the old Japanese lolita forums, so I'm not surprised. Ime most of the time there are no significant differences between the western and Japanese comm, I keep expecting there to be more but then nearly always find out how very similar the two groups are.The biggest difference I noticed is that a lot of them overpay for Chinese brand. Some out of ignorance of the brand's pricing in China, others do it knowingly because they think it's too scary to use a shopping service.
>>10941244lolitas is the same. the main distinction i've noticed is that different regions define the substyles differently-- ask a japanese, chinese, euro, and burger lolita to define classic and you'll get at least 4 different answers.
>>10941274I've been told that Enchantlic Enchantilly is considered sweet lolita to some japanese lolitas. I don't know how common that opinion is in japan. I found that surprising. Sure they have some sweet pieces but sweet isn't what comes to mind when I see the brand as a whole. I find a lot of it leans more classic, or some pieces that are difficult to categorize.
>>10941277I've heard some japanese lolitas consider prints in general to be sweet (or otherwise not classic), which could be why. Not sure if that's a common opinion or fringe standard, though.
Is Moitie re-releasing Silent Moon in black x gold? I saw the photo they uploaded from the tea party and didn't see anything in the salon about it.
>>10941279>I've heard some japanese lolitas consider prints in general to be sweetThat was the explanation I was given too. That doesn't make sense though, MMM has border prints. And then I was told it's a combination of the print and the cut/trims/theming.
>>10941308Yeah, that's why I specified some just view prints as "not classic"-- sweet is just more common.
what's the best chinese gothic lolita brand?
>>10941317don't even bother buying from chink brands, you'll end up disappointed with the quality and stuck with something that you can't easily sell off.
>>10941321Ngl,Taobao looks tempting rn since I don't want to piss off my mum and my family, despite me being adult with the cost of jp lolita stuff.My mum dislikes my jfashion hobby since she thinks it makes me look a like a kid,she thinks it's expensive and it's some sort of fetish.
>>10941324no one asked for your cringe blogpost but good luck being a permaita i guess
>>10941324A lot of second hand actual lolita is priced about the same as half-decent taobao
>>10941324I recommend buying jpn brand second hand, it's generally better quality than cn brands.>>10941325Who spit on your sandwich?
>>10941324>>10941317It looks tempting because chinese people approach the fashion with the mindset of "it just needs to look good on photos". Their designs and the quality is all over the place, and even 10+ years of taobaolita later, none of them come even remotely close to brand. Stock photos and worn photos are filtered back and forth, because it's the appearance of the end product that counts, making it incredibly hard to assess the quality until you actually hold the piece in your hands. To be fair, you can put together something okay if you match a decent taobao dress with better accessories, but stuff from there never retains it value unlike most burando. Chances are however quite high you will end up disappointed.
>>10941339kek what game is this?
>>10941341I grabbed it off /cgl/ or /a/ years ago, so I'm not quite sure, but it looks like something that's could have been made with RPG creator.
Are there any resources for actually getting into shironuri? Minori has a tutorial but besides that I'd really like to learn more from a detailed "this is how you actually pull it off" perspective and not a gawky touristy one
>>10941339I actually think it's more insidious than them filtering the photos, I think they actually make a different set of clothes for the shoot. The way they the fabrics look, fall, and fold are always completely different than what I see in posted worn pics.
>>10941324>blogpostingCome the fuck on, anon.If you really want to get Taobao shit then Surfacespell comes to mind for decent chink gothic brands, but iirc most of their dresses are made to order and can take up to 2-4 months to ship.However, you'll also be able to get secondhand AtePi pieces from Mercari or Lacemarket (at typically decent to good quality) for roughly around the same price or less and with none of the manufacturing wait time for shipping.
>>10941618nayrtIf you're an adult and earn your own income then just buy what you love the most.If your parents are very strict ("our home, our rules and we forbid you from going out like that.") there are workarounds. I would say you can gradually get them used to j-fashion by starting with stuff that is very mainstream adjacent, but your family thinking it's a fetish is a big bump in the road since they will still have a problem with it once it gets a little bit too close to what they think j-fashion and lolita look like, and then they'll probably watch you like a hawk and prevent you from wearing anything they do not see as normal. If you want some freedom when living with your parents and you think getting along with them is important, then you will eventually need to talk to them (preferably both at the same time) about the way they see j-fashion and lolita. They won't just believe you because if they did they would have come around by now, so you're going to have to show them something someone else made that quickly explains what lolita fashion is and isn't. If they're not willing to take 2 minutes out of their life to see a video about something you think is important that is causing friction between you then there's nothing you can do. You could take a huge bag/trolley bag with your outfit with you when you travel to a meet, and change clothes somewhere safe before you get to the meet. Your parents are eventually going to find out though. The question is if they'll make a big deal out of it or not. And what will they do if you continue buying lolita fashion? If they're going to make a problem out of everything you do related to lolita fashion then move out. Short term solution would be to live with friends for the time being. A more long term solution could be to rent a room or an apartment somewhere on your own or share a rental (for example with friends).
>>10940624I'm not in Europe so I don't know anything about IOSS, but I've been using Japonica for a while now and they're accommodating for almost any request and a friend has asked them to undervalue items on a declaration form. They can probably do whatever you need.I used Zenmarket in the past but numerous problems with them not buying items in a reasonable timeframe (24H+), buying items only after they go on sale and pocketing the difference etc and starting to collect sales tax for my country has put me off them entirely.
Where do you get rainwear that fit old school and bigger sizes (but not plus-sized)? Looking for both raincoats and winter coats that can take a downpour. Most brand coats are too tight around the shoulders and bust for me.Melody Basket has cute coats that fit but they don't seem to work well with old school
>>10941841I recently came across some options. Whether you think they're old school appropriate is another thing so I'm just going to list whatever I've seen and you can see for yourself what appeals to you.-btssb has at least 2 rain coat designs, you sometimes see them second hand. -lumiebre https://lolibrary.org/items/indie-lumiebre-mal-damour-rain-coat and https://lolibrary.org/items/indie-lumiebre-noir-rose-rain-coat -chess story https://www.lolitawardrobe.com/chess-story-sweet-rainbow-lolita-rain-coat_p0574.htmlI just searched and I found this thing https://www.my-lolita-dress.com/Rabbit-Ears-~Sweet-Lolita-Raincoat-Pre-order-closed-p904167.htmlhttps://x.com/cats_broom/status/701405197889736704/photo/1https://www.lolitawardrobe.com/sweet-lolita-raincoat-with-cat-ears-hood_p3429.htmldiamond honey https://i.pinimg.com/736x/50/da/53/50da535eaaf1ee98b8aa029ea533ccbd.jpgFor coats that have less of a contemporary sweet style I suggest looking at cute j-fashion brands such as axes femme, MILK, fint, etc.If you're expecting heavy rain I would not suggest getting a knee length one. Your leg wear will get wet. Getting a rain coat that is either ankle length or comes down to halfway down your lower legs, combined with rain boots or waterproof boots is probably the best way to stay dry in style.
>>10941856Thank you anon! The Baby and Lumiebre coats seem a bit snug on the shoulders unfortunately, but the Chinese ones could work.For heavy coats, the brands you mentioned are usually pretty small, I've had the most luck with Melody Basket or occasionally Jane Marple. I'll look into Chinese brands, or suck it up and get normie coats I guess
>>10941618>>10941327>>10941339>>10941626thanks, I'm gonna try and look for jp brands second hand
Newfag here, can someone give me a good rundown on how to become better at identifying if a piece is more suited for sweet or gothic?
>>10941991Simple: is it cute? Probably sweet. Is it more mature/classy more than it is cute and mostly black with gothic styling? Probably goth.
>>10942013I feel like there are overlaps between some blouses sometimes, that's what always gets me. Like there are obviously sweet blouses but some end up toeing the line.
>>10941991>>10942258>I feel like there are overlapsWell, that applies to all of the fashion really. There are no hard lines drawn with lots of room in-between. Typically though, gothic gravitates towards a more mature look. Clear lines, elegant dark romantic looks, use of gothic influenced iconography and symbolism, more use of texture variety are just some points that come to my mind in general. For sweet you tend to have a more fluffy playful look, more round lines, use of typical cutesy imagery and objects and a variety of different colors ranging all the way from soft pastel looks to mature jewel-tones to monochrome looks.For blouses in particular, it can become quite tricky since you can combine different pieces in various ways leading to case-by-case decisions based on the coord as a whole. Gothic oriented pieces oftentimes tend to have a less playful vibe and are more sober (unless you go for stuff like princess sleeves) while sweet orientes blouses have more round lines (e.g. peter pan collar) and oftentimes more stuff going on with their design.
What insoles would you recommend for wearing with typical lolita shoes?
>>10942291whatever you think is comfortable. It really is trial and error so I suggest starting with cheap ones and trying them out by taking short walks.
>>10941991What >>10942272 said, when it comes to blouses there are some that are flexible and can be worn with multiple styles and look good depending on the rest of the coord. Ime nothing helps more than just taking in as many visual examples as possible for this kind of thing. I recommend going to lolibrary, slecting blouses and then narrowing by brands that specialize in sweet (AP, Baby, IW) or gothic (Moitie, Sheglit, Boz) and looking through the items until you start to get an idea of the patterns.
a lot of chinese brands make lolita outfits that come off more costumey but i don't know if it's considered lolita even if i think its cute. and even if it's lolitaesque does that translate to being ita? obligatory not lolita yet just curious
>>10942315Most of the time these costumey coords don't actually look that great outside of the (heavily edited) promo images, so yes. I've seen a few of these costumey chinese dresses pop up in secondhand stores and almost all of them look (and feel) like shit for most part.
What petticoat do you use for lolita? What shape/silhouette are you going for? How much did you pay for it? Do you find you have to layer petticoats to get good skirt volume?
Is there a way to fix peeling pleather bags?
>>10942358>What shape/silhouette are you going for? >What petticoat do you use for lolitaDepends on what style you're going for, there's not necessarily a one size fits all scenario. Sweet you are going to traditionally want a short cupcake style but gothic and classic you normally want A line and potentially longer. However it's not a hard and fast rule.>How much did you pay for it?A good one shouldn't cost you more than $60>Do you find you have to layer petticoats to get good skirt volume?Again, a good one you shouldn't have to layer. If you're layering then you bought the wrong kind or the one you have is starting to deflate/die (or you're going for something extremely OTT, but for the average coord, 1 good one should be enough) >>10942362No.
>>10942315what >>10942346 said. These look much worse irl. I also get the impression chinese brands are generally not concerned about whether something is considered lolita or not. If they think it's cute, or if it will sell really well, they make it.I would recommend not buying any of the more costumey pieces. There are brands that sell more casual cute stuff that can be used for a variety of styles, including lolita.
>>10942358shape and poof depends on the dress/skirt. Instead of wearing two petticoats it's much more comfortable to buy a variety of them and just wear one. I have petticoats of varying lengths and poof levels. Layering is unnecessary.I think most of my petticoats were between 20 and 30$, from Aurora & Ariel and Boguta. If you want to support a very heavy dress or get an immense amount of poof I recommend looking at Aurora & Ariel's "violence" level petticoat.If your dress is extremely heavy for some reason, then it might be best to use a petticoat that has multiple adjustable hoops and 3 or more petticoat layers on top (to hide the hoops). This is a sort of hoop skirt and petticoat in one and really convenient for certain situations.>>10942362not that I know of, sadly.
>>10942362You can never restore them to the way they were, and it's usually not worth the effort, but you can reupholster a peeling purse with fabric or sand the pleather down and cover with crafting paper and mod podge. I wouldn't bother unless you're really attached to the purse or very, very bored.
>>10942391there are some products on the market that slow down deterioration of PU before it gets to the peeling stage, but these just postpone the inevitable and they only work in some ways, for example deterioration due to sunlight. I don't know if there's any way to slow down moisture loss over time.It's not a real solution but >>10942362 could consider hunting for real leather bags. There aren't a lot of those so it's probably going to be expensive and time consuming to get one. Another option could be to focus more on buying vinyl bags. "faux leather" for lolita bags is often PU, but sometimes it's vinyl (to be specific PVC) and afaik that doesn't peel. The problem is that a lot of brands don't say what they're using but instead just say "imitation leather" or "fake/faux leather" or "synthetic leather". Btssb store doesn't even mention it. AP just says "synthetic leather".It isn't always obvious from stock photos what's being used specifically. Some older AP bags are pvc, I just don't know if they've been consistently using it for rereleases of popular bag designs.It's also not a solution but it's cheaper to buy some bags from Loris (on taobao) and use those instead of brand bags. If they peel you've wasted 15$ instead of whatever you're paying for brand bags new or second hand.
Dunno where else to ask this but why are the model photos for VM so strange these days? The models are pretty, but they look tired and splotchy due to poor lighting and editing.
