>seed oils are ... le bad!im 99% certain this is a meme literally all that japs eat is food fried in seed oils and they are famed about their longevity apparentlyother countries tooyeah, im sure that absolute chemical shit like Crisco isnt good for you, but why would, lets say, cold-pressed Sunflower oil be bad...?
>>20937451Your thumbnail has industrial in the very top you moron
>>20937488but people are butthurd from 'seed oils" in generali really dont see how a cold-pressed("extra virgin) sunflower or corn oil for example is much worse than EVOO for you?
>>20937451Seeds are designed to not be eaten. Then humans come along and artificially farm them and concentrate the bullshit in them.Some seeds are okay but sunflower seeds and corn oil are are the worst.Long story short, look up the fatty acid composition of different oils.
>>20937496Might have something to do with the "industrial" part you retardNobody gives a fuck about some hypothetical magic oil with absolutely 0 downsides
>>20937451>seed oils
>>20937522>Seeds are designed to not be eaten.Some seeds are designed to be eaten.When an animal eats the seed and then shits it back out, the seed gets planted with free fertilizer already on it.
>>20937522literally all of eastern europe eats exclusively sunflower seed oils and they arent dying left and rightbalkans always have some 100+ years old grandpa in the news
>>20937451The extraction and refinement process of seed oils requires high amounts of heat and many filtering and deodorizing steps just to make something that is consumable. They are higher in inflammatory compounds and toxic byproducts similar to those produced when cooking oil reaches its smoke point. They were original used as an industrial lubricant for tanks in WW2, then animal feed which caused the animals to die, then they figured out how to make it just non-toxic enough for goy to eat it up and then literally paid the AHA to make a bunch of bullshit up that it was better for heart health than lard or butter.
>>20937522>Long story short, I pulled it out straight of my ass.Yeah, so I see.
>>20937543Well if gypsys do it then sign me up.
>>20937543>literally all of eastern europe eats exclusively sunflower seed oils and they arent dying left and rightDid sunflower seeds cause the war in ukraine???
>>20937574gypsies use ghee, they are pajeets, retard
>>20937543Eastern europe is literally full of fat dysgenic unhealth-looking slavs.No unhealthy seed oil won't kill you, but it promotes ill health on multiple levels.
>>20937704thats cos they eat the average, cheap, supermarket oilcold-pressed sunflower oil is great for you
>>20937553>>20937525>>20937488>dude, it's industrial that means it's bad because...well look it just does okay?!
>>20937718yes
>>20937451>literally all that japs eat is food fried in seed oilsLmao this is the most retarded pro seed poison argument ever, congratulations anon
tf is safflower oil nigga lol
Linoleic acid (omega-6) breaks down creating free radicals with heat, or just over time. Seed oils are high in omega-6 fatty acids.
>>20937522>Seeds are designed to not be eaten.>don't eat strawberries, beans, nuts, tomatoes, okra, squash, or countless other seed-heavy foods>suck cock like me>get all your seed from your wife's boyfriend No thanks.
>>20937535Yeah by birds you dumb woman
There is too much propaganda on each side: Corpos selling industrial machinery lubricant and general grifters trying to be the next Dr. Oz or making seed oils a political issue.If I consume rapeseed oil, I get heaps of acne. If I consume clarified butter, lard, tallow, butter, etc. I do not get acne. That's just how it works for my corporeal form. I beckon everyone experiment with what works for them instead of >muh sneeed oils>muh Japan>muh only patriots consume XYZ lipidsLastly, fuck your Japan evidence. Look up the Israeli paradox and the French paradox. Isreali Jews consume heaps of seed oils and are generally health conscious yet incur HIGH levels of heart complications. The French consume heaps of saturated fats like butter and tallow, but have LOW level of heart complication. Perhaps there are cultural issues at play. Perhaps there are genetic issues. The truth will never come out because it is too profitable to have a clear consensus.
>>20937746>peanut oil is high in omega 6s>tfw love adding natural peanut butter to my oatmealfeels bad
>>20937718>dude, needing expensive hydrocarbon solvents to make something edible means it's good for you because...well look it just does okay!?!?
>>20937852lol
>>20937852wtf are blabbering about?
>>20937451Peanut oil enjoyers we win again
>>20937451I don't think traditional Japanese cuisine uses a lot of seed oils, most dishes are steamed, boiled, etc, not fried. The grilled fish isn't oiled.
>>20937451Didn't read the rest of thread or OP because it's probably insane/schizotypal.Here's the secret bucko,Don't consume free oils. Eat a whole food, plant based diet.Eat nuts and seeds sparingly. Consume less than 10% of your calories from fat. Eat mostly grains and starches, and consume three or four pieces of fruit in addition to green leafy vegetables, and whatever other vegetables you like.This advice destroys the pharmaceutical industry, destroys the healthcare industry, and allows you to fully follow the first precept, to abstain from taking life.
>>20938018you need to stop watching anime and actually visit japanjaps eat like animals, its not just some le cute raw egg on rice and sushithey eat more deepfried shit than fucking scotts
>>20938028*dabs on you with keto*KWAB
>>20937704I've always figured that was because of lack of sunlight like in the UK
>>20938046what the fuck does that have to do with anything, autistic freak?
>>20937704That's because we're alcoholics you faggot.
>>20938039>Hi my name is Jimmy Moore>I'm one of the many unhealthy saints of Ketoism>Why yes, I was convincted of raping a child, why do you ask?
>>20938054>How X's do you want before the L, Jimmy Moore?>>Gimmie More
>>20937451Japs have cancer rates comparable to the USTheir health is also getting worse and worse. They're just behind on the west.
I stopped eating sneed oils years ago because I saw some study that said they were estrogenic and would make my dick smaller. it was something you only saw on /fit/ type places and mainstream news said it was a conspiracy theory. now mainstream places are saying to stop eating sneed oils, but only because they're "processed" and use "chemicals" to refine them. if that was the reason I read about years ago I probably would have ignored it and kept eating them. what changed to bring normies in but for completely different reasons?
>>20937451>>20938062They also eat a lot of fish. omega-3 might counteract some harms done by omega-6s.But one thing that is never talked about is that you don't need these oils to be heart healthy. Humans have been doing fine without them from before humans could be considered humans. You don't need them. Neither for health, nor culinary.
>>20938073>omega-3 might counteract some harms done by omega-6s.thats not how it works. huge omega 6 intake stops you from using your omega 3 at all
>>20937543are you being intentionally disingenuous? eastern europe has a life expectancy 10 years lower than western europe
>>20938086No. Omega-6 and omega-3 compete over the same pathway to convert into longer chain fatty acids, with omega-6 beating omega-3. So you're right if you get your omega-3 from plant sources. But omega-3 in fish is already in its longer form DHA.
>>20938108>>20938086Ignore the title, it's essentially an hour on nutritional chemistry relating to omegas.https://youtu.be/NI7_QekdVoI?si=5ajJheEifrqrM8rH
>>20938086>huge omega 6 intake stops you from using your omega 3 at allyup this is why the RATIO of omega 3 to omega 6 is the important part, not just raw omega 3 volume.
>>20937522>Seeds are designed to not be eaten.That's why we create our own fitness tests and then mutate the fuck out of them. What natural selection tried to use them for is irrelevant. We make them work for mayo.
>>20937522Seeds are meant to be eaten. You're one of many iterations of externalized sex organs created by plants to spread shit, piss, and seeds across the globe.
>>20938116The problem is that in the modern western diet there is so much omega-6 that you'd have to down an entire bottle of fish oil pills a day to counteract it. And that's assuming those fish oil pills aren't rancid. The only way to get a good ratio is to avoid seed oils.
>>20938148>The problem is that in the modern western diet there is so much omega-6 that you'd have to down an entire bottle of fish oil pills a day to counteract it.Lets say I don't and I'm not obese ... what exactly will happen to me?I'll likely still live to around 80+ and die of heart attack, cancer or respiratory disease regardless. For all it's supposed to matter, it sure doesn't matter much.Without getting into psychosomatic American shit like brainfog, none of it matters. Just don't be a fat fuck.
>>20937535eaten but not digested moronwe literally destroy the seeds to get oil out of them
>>20937451Frying in oil makes your apartment smell for three days. In butter its not even an hour.
>>20937543>balkans always have some 100+ years old grandpa in the newsits almost like they cant count and lie constantly looking for handouts like the gypsies they are.
>>20937451>im 99% certain this is a memeAll you need to know is that we used to use oils like peanut oil until suddenly those oils were declared "bad and unhealthy" and everywhere switched to using cheaper, more profitable seed oils. And then after years it was determined that no, there is absolutely no reason to believe the more expensive oils everyone used were "unhealthy" in any way, shape, or form.
Why dont people just take the lard pill??>cheap as fuck>tastes great>easy to make yourself>way healthier than pretty much almost every other frying oil and even butteri dont get it
>>20937852HYDROCARBONS!!!!! SOLVENTS!!!!???? I'm so glad you say nothing about why these things are bad but HYDROCARBON SOLVENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Did you just come from facebook?
>>20937451Olive, avocado, butter, ghee, tallow, or bacon grease as all that is allowed in my home.
>>20938348and also no pussy
>>20937451>why would, lets say, cold-pressed Sunflower oil be badDefinitely not as bad for you as most vegetable oils. The problem with most vegetable oils is they're rancid by the time you buy them because of the heat they've been exposed to during the manufacturing process.If you're going to eat vegetable oils, the cold-pressed ones will be the least bad ones, for sure.
>>20937804>I get heaps of acne You have to be 18 to post here.
>>20937451Because they're stupid. Stupid people get all stupid about stupid things. They'll switch to some other stupid thing later.When you were a kid it was animal fats that were bad and should be avoided, but they moved on from that.
>>20938257It's easy to get cheap lard if you make a lot of bacon, just strain it down and scrape off the gunk and protein. Or you can buy fatback and simmer it down to get pure lard.
>>20938601i dont even eat much bacon, i just go to the butcher and ask him to trim me some fresh fat from the pig, preferably neck and belly its very cheap, you just cut it in pieces and throw in the pan and fry for 20-30 mins. you render shitloads of fat and also get the benefit of lots of tasty pork rinds to snack on
>>20938627I mean, if you already get bacon you can get some fat from that while eating the bacon, but if you really just need fat you can always cook down the fat trimmings that way. I probably have 2-3 pounds of unrefined lard in my fridge from bacon and pork shoulder, all you have to do is mix it with some water to pull out the scum, scrape it off 1-3 times, and then heat it gently at boiling temperature to get the water to steam off and put in a jar. Works perfectly for frying or as a general cooking fat.
>>20938631yeah, if you eat lots of bacon on a daily basis its a great idea to just save the grease, i usually really eat just bacon, and whenever i do i usually just cook eggs or whatever else i eat it with in the same fatalso im yuropoor, so our "bacon" here is a bit different than the american one, here its usually more of a deli type of meat thats usually "smoked" so not great for rendering fat>mix it with some water to pull out the scumyou know, ive actually never done this, i usually just pour it in jars just as it, this is not a bad idea. mine never went bad since i put em in the freezer, but i presume it could last even longer if i "clean it" like that
>>20937451show me where to buy and the price of this mystical cold-pressed sunflower oil
>>20938692American bacon is usually just salted belly cuts, so depending on how lucky you are with the segment cut, it's great for getting fat out of. Cook the strips low and slow, get the fat nice and rendered, don't overcook the meat, and enjoy the bacon. Then strain out the hard bits and add to a jar, when you build up enough, you can gently boil some water and add the fat to it to slightly emulsify. This gets the water and fat mixed together, and when you chill it, the sediment will pull to the bottom of the fat and top of the water. Scrape the gunk off, and either store and use sooner, or repeat if you want longer lasting, more pure bacon lard.
>>20938435you understand that the animal fats thing came from scientists, not random "dumb people", right?
>>20938700every "health" store sells in, at least in europe
>>20938709ok, now show me the price and tell me again that's what people use in every day cooking
>>20938704yeah, fucking love american bacon, here its usually is more like a type of ham instead. there was this place near me selling exactly that type of american bacon and it was so good. way cheaper than what its usually sold here too, but havent seen it in a while.i think i dont need that water tip for this method tho >>20938627, since i cut in in pretty big chunks and theres pretty much no tiny bits left in the liquid. i just strain it through a sieve or a cheesecloth
>>20938714its like 4 euros for a liter in my country, which still makes it like 4 times cheaper than EVOO and like 6 times cheaper than butter. Maybe twice as expensive as regular cheapo seed oil
>>20938727Yeah, if you're getting pure fat you can basically just use a ladle or strain it out since it's only going to have small bits at most. This just works for fatty bacon because the protein that comes off the meat, while offering meaty flavor, will make the fat not last as long.
>>20938733You pay 16 eur/liter for EVOO, and 24 eur/kg for butter, but you can buy cold pressed sunflower oil for 4 eur/liter?I am in the same single EU market and EVOO is 10 eur/l. The cheapest cold pressed sunflower oil i could find is twice that. Meanwhile regular sunflower oil is 1.5 eur/l.
>>20937451>literally all that japs eat is food fried in seed oilswut?
>>20938034I don't get it from anime, but cookbooks. I also prefaced it with traditional food.
It’s probably a meme in the same vain as meat being unhealthy for you. “Too much” of just about anything is bad. Too much hydrogen is bad for you. Telling people not to eat meat was their method to curb the cost of meat production. If they stopped putting sugar in everything and used land that is used to grow sugar to grow actual food instead, we could probably solve world hunger. I know a lot of sugar is from stuff like apples and other fruits but my point is that that fruit could have been actual food.>inb4 some shill tells us about how sustainable sugar production is.
>>20937451Buy an ad.
>>20938750>16 eur/liter for EVOOits more like 20 right now, the olive oil jumped in prize immensely in the last few months, and im talking about shitty supermarket brand like costa d'oro. apparently the olive harvest everywhere was dogshit this year, so now even in places like greece and spain olive oil is expensive.>24 eur/kg for buttermaybe overdid it, i guess butter is slightly cheaper than olive oil right now, but its between 15-20euros depending on the brand
>>20937451Theyre not famed for their longevity, okinawans are and their longevity is declining with adopting japanese and western food.
They've already managed to propagandize men into having body image issues, now they are doing it with eating disorders.
>>20937451The japanese aren't healthy. They're just old.
>>20938335>Did you just come from facebook?No need to stoop that low.
>>20937488>Industrial (created by an industry)wow so scary
>>20938257based
>>20937522>Seeds are designed to not be eatenThis is literally wrong
>>20937451Aren't Avocados and Olives seeds?
>israel>one of the highest rates of seed oil consumption despite low saturated fat intake (very little dairy)>one of the highest rates of heart disease relative to BMI>france>low rate of seed oil consumption despite high saturated fat intake (very heavily dairy)>one of the lowest rates of heart disease relative to BMIreally makes you thinkLinoliec acid fucks up several metabolic pathways
>>20940064Yes but those are expensive seed oils so they are ok.
>>20937451japs are also tiny, frail people who are chronically depressed
>>20938855World hunger is a logistical issue, not a lack of food.
>>20940064>>20940104They're fruit.
>>20938705Generous of you to call them scientists given their flagrant and purposeful disregard for the scientific method.
>>20937543>literally all of eastern europe eats exclusively sunflower seed oils and they arent dying left and rightThey pretty much are though. The life expectancy in my country is like 10 years less than in Japan.It's full of fat people, and people usually don't give a fuck about eating healthy. Heart problems are very common.I don't think sunflower seed oil is less healthy at all than other seed oils, the problem is the general quality of and culture around food.
>>20940282thats cos they soke 2 packs of ciggies per day and drink liters of hard alcohol, not because of sunflower oil lmao
>>20940606Yeah, that's mainly the reason.They do have an unhealthy diet too, but I wouldn't blame sunflower oil specifically for that. There are lots of people who don't smoke or drink but they're still fat and obviously unhealthy.
>>20937451>sesame oil conveniently not listedlol. >>20938335I'll take a crack. Hexane is used to extract the seed oils. Trace hexane does make its way into the final product so we're eating it every time we eat the seed oil. That's about all that could be said for the "unnatural industrial chemical hydrocarbon solvents" argument. There are better reasons why it shouldn't be consumed in the quantities many consume today. But the poster would have had to actually educate themselves to recount those instead of simply jumping on the bandwagon.
>>20940270Their research was peer reviewed and published like any other. They only recently discovered the cholesterol you eat doesn't automatically become blood cholesterol. This isn't the first common health knowledge type research to be superseded, and not the last.All researchers do is find correlations. Some are at the molecular level, some are just among sample groups of people. It's all valid research and moving on from false consensus is part of the scientific method.
>>20940687>only recently discovered the cholesterol you eat doesn't automatically become blood cholesterolThat was figured out in the 70s, it just took decades for it to push the old, commonly-repeted belief out
>>20938257Yeah, that's why I usually keep bacon on hand, just for the fat to cook in. Plus you get to eat bacon.
>>20940086i heard all these oils contain deoxyribonucleic acid
>>20937451Ah, the sneed oil faggots are here....again.
>>20937451Only healthy oils are olive oil, avocado oil and butter, and even that depends how much of the fried shit you eat, because saturated fat can result from deep frying, but at least you won't get cancer like the seed oils.
>>20941207retard
>>20937649>gypsies use gheelolNo they fucking don't.
>>20937804Everything involves politics you literal baby. Especially if Jews were involved, which in the case of seed oils, they absolutely are a political issue
>>20940086>let me compare two different races, different ethnic groups, environments, and cultures as if the only difference is sneed oil consumptionYou may as well be comparing the irish or russians against the japanese with the intent to "prove" that any alchohol stronger than a whiteclaw is unnecessary and evil.
>>20941765ah yes, I missed the link of culture with heart diseaseplease, niggeryou can do the same type of research on every culture that has a high rate of living past 100>fish-heavy diet, little to no processed foods>little to no processed foods or oils>lots of walking up and down steep hillsconsistent across all of themnon-congential heart disease at all BMIs is extremely accurate representation of diet-influenced health
>>20941207Don't care, still using animal fat.
>>20941901>every distinct ethnic group is affected by foods in the same wayYou types always go on about how some races can't drink milk, so I figured you'd have at least enough IQ to realize what affects one race doesn't affect the next in the same way. As always, I overestimate just how unintelligent you are.
>>20942080oh I see you're one of those people who thinks if you consume food they sometimes ruminate around in the body like spooky ghosts instead of being metabolized through a predictable chemical processcarry on being retarded
>>20942080>I overestimate just how unintelligent you areGod I fucking love the retards on this site making such abject fools out of themselves. You can't even insult someone's intelligence without fucking it up in a way that makes you look stupid.
>>20942108>>20942110Caucasoids can digest dairy products. Many other ethnic groups will instead suffer gastrointestinal distress for doing so. This is objective fact. You are incredibly stupid if you think that doesn't extend to other dietary habits. You're the same stock that thought soy caused mass feminization of males in caucasians while various asian ethnic groups suffer no such fate with the amount of soy sauces and product they ingest.
>>20942137Don't respond to me with your irrelevant /pol/ babble ever again, brainlet.
>>20942110this, kek
>>20942149>/pol/ babbleWhere? Where is that? There isn't anything of the sort. Just admit you're wrong and panicking over nothing and move on.
>>20937451>99% certain this is a memeyou might be retardedit's a meme regardless of how healthy or unhealthy seed oils are
>>20942080>As always, I overestimate just how unintelligent you are.lmao
Based Tate already blew these mentally ill freaks the fuck out over this.Weakminded incel subhumans always try to pick some random shit to go full cultist over so they can pretend they found LE ANSWER TO LE UNIVERSE to fill the void in their life.
