Uhh... intermittent fasting and OMAD bros..?
>>20942379Thank God.
>studies
the trick is to eat 24 hrs a day. that's why my heart is in perfect health
>>20942379>AHA>epidemiology>2024 studiesWelp, time to fastingmaxx, always do the opposite of what the jew recommends
>>20942379that's because the people are on that diet because they're obese
>>20942379Vax status?
>8-hour time-restricted eatingare you telling me i have to be eating in my sleep
>>20942379This strikes me as a study corrupted by uncontrolled variables. One being which kind of person follows extreme dieting trends (probably people who are already obese and have failed to lose weight otherwise). The other being the eating habits of people following "one crazy trick!" diets like OMAD (binging on huge amounts of high-calorie foods because they think they can eat anything if they stick the diet schedule). If you control for the baseline weight/health of participants and total calories consumed each day, I bet the increased risk would disappear.
Have any of you guys tried just eating normally?
>>20942394If you sleep more than 16 hours a day, yes
>>20942379And what did the test subjects eat during those 8 hours
>>20942379AHA the same one that endorses industrial seed oils as heart-healthy? yeah piss off lmao
>>20942400>probably people who are already obese and have failed to lose weight otherwiseThis is exactly the reason behind it.I've never met a healthy person that does OMAD
>>20942421Define "normally", also no.
>>20942379Well...I guess I'll eat lunch tomorrow. Not like I'm losing weight anyway.
>>20942379Looked it up. No published paper, just an "infographic slide" published by a team of Chinese researchers funded entirely by Chinese organizations. No actual experiment was carried out, they just looked through historical self-reported data and death records.The biggest red flag is that this study is very obviously p-hacked. They generated shitloads of subpopulation combinations, and nearly all of them were statistically insignificant except for cardiovascular mortality in people with an eating duration less than 8 hours, which also happened to have the smallest sample size. The other two statistically significant findings were that people with an 8-10 hour eating period who already have cardiovascular disease are more likely to die in general (but not if their eating period is <8h), and that people with a >16h eating period who already have cancer are less likely to die of cancer (this was also seemingly true for the <8h already-has-cancer group, but wasn't quite statistically significant because there was a total of 3 deaths in that group).Also none of this has been successfully replicated.Basically this is horseshit in several different ways, like most published diet "science"
>>20942379https://s3.amazonaws.com/cms.ipressroom.com/67/files/20242/8-h+TREmortality_EPI+poster_updated+032724.pdf>funding>chinainto the trash it goes
>>20942454Researchers:>These findings have not been peer reviewed. We recommend that you wait on reporting until the peer reviewed paper is publishedJournalists:>TIME RESTRICTED EATING CAUSES DEATH
Another day, another bold nutrition-related claim in a sketchy study.Yawn
>>20942421Yeah, that's how you get fat. Look outside for an example of normality
>>20942435While I don't do OMAD, your post struck me because I feel it in this way:I'm a member of some online forums and groups who focus on optimizing diet. Sometime ago I began to notice that a plurality or majority of the other members are people who are trying to HEAL themselves, not people who are trying to be healthy.That's a vital distinction. The people who find these carnivore or animal based or vegan or paleo or anti-vaxx or whatever other groups tend to arrive on a train that is rusted and full of graffiti and trailing smoke behind it. I love that they're eating and living for health, but I'm beginning to wonder if the people who are doing it just for the sake of being healthy (and not to heal) just don't participate in studies or online groups very often.
>>20942491One thing to add: I'm a member of my local chapter of the Weston A Price Foundation. I was initially amazed that half of the people in our meetings either speak of chronic conditions or look like shit, until I realized that they're coming to the meetings *because* their health failed. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
>>20942453The same groups of people flooding the internet with fake, dishonest, stolen or AI generated rubbish, are also flooding academia with rubbish. And the education industry doesn't care, it's a business after all."The science" is a cess pit
>>20942493>I'm a member of my local chapter of the Weston A Price FoundationFucking why?
>>20942421normal is subjective here, current normal is too much.
>>20942400and alcoholics, don't forget us
CONSUME
>>20942493I used to be part of that too, until they claimed covid was caused by 5g and I realized they're all fucking retards. I love milk and I love butter but those people are absolute freaks. I do stand by the old yellow book as a good manual for healthful recipes, but my diet is different now and I'm better off for it.
>>20942601yes
Why is OP such a fag that he would make a fake post?
>>20942421American "normal" is KOMAD (kg of McDonald's a day)
I just eat when I feel like it, I don't really follow any sort of schedule.
>>20942453I remember my statistics professor in college told me most stats are literally made up on the spot.They just delete the outliers to skew the data however they want.
>>20942622Poor guy need to import his size of clothing.
>>20942400>I betVery scientific
>>20942493If you need a club or a chapter for the food you eat, that's a sign that you have an eating disorder. I'm not trying to mock you in any way or put you down, but that's a giant red flag. I can't imagine that you think it's normal to have to go to meetings based on what you eat.
>>20942786study shows only 1.3% of statistics are made up
>>20943016Yeah but thats 50% of the time (from another study)
>>20942385who isnt a jew to you retards anymore?
>>20942379Read the study. They didn't control for fucking anything. Age, lifestyle, job, preexisting conditions, diet, nothing. The average intermittent faster isn't doing it as an informed lifestyle choice. The average intermittent faster doesn't even know what intermittent fasting is. They're a middle aged, obese trucker that may or may not even eat breakfast, drive for 10 hours and finally pull over to eat an enormous serving of greasiest fucking fast food imaginable. They're the obese mexican construction worker that does the same. You get the idea.
>>20942435When I was in peak health in my life I was OMAD but it's not something I went out of my way to do. I didn't even know what it was. I would just eat one meal of healthy whole grains, protein and veg every day.
>>20942421I don't have the time to eat.
>>20942391Thiscan I get a quick inoculation verification?
>>20942379That proves it! I'm taking that buffet place to court.
>>20942632>KOMAD instead of POMADWhy would an American be measuring with metric? 0/10
>>20942382
>>20942379Millennials can't stop losing lmfao
>>20943012So much this!
>>20943385Fix your bot
>>20943029Don't feed the Nazi trolls anon, keep fighting the good fight! #CoconutsForKamala#Brat-in-Chief#wearenotgoingback
>>20943387Fix your butt, lmao
>>20943029/ck/ is so slow and yet half of the traffic is from /pol/ schizos now. First they shat up /fit/ and now they're hereit's over.
My only addendum: OMAD feels great. But 23:1 do not improve your insulin resistance.47/1, do, but at that point its a meal each second day + hunger pains each second day until the hormones get behaving.
>>20943401>insulin resistanceJust don't be fat
>>20942379>self-reported dietary informationLOL, why does any fall for this anymore? A bunch of fatties lied on questionnaires, swearing up and down that they stuck to their diet with no cheating.What this study found, like all similar studies find, is that fatties will lie on dietary questionnaires. That it was presented at an AHA conference is icing on the not-reported cake. The AHA licenses its logo and endorsement out to food companies so things like Cheerios can claim to be "heart healthy".
>>20943473Not only self-reported data but retrospective data based on just two days of dietary intake. Sounds like someone had a conclusion ready and went hacking around for the data they needed to support that claim. The "study" also found that cancer patients that eat MORE than 16 hours a day have better outcomes. >Victor Wenze Zhong, the lead author, is the chair of the department of epidemiology and biostatistics at the Shanghai Jiao Tong University School of Medicine in China.Now we're hitting "Oh, come on now!" tier of trash science.
>>20942379Everyone I've ever known to do OMAD over a long period is a divorced blue collar worker alcoholic who is doing it incidentally as his only meal after a shift before passing out drunk
Everything about this "study" has turned out to be terrible "science".https://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/features/is-intermittent-fasting-bad-for-heart-health
>meme fad diet claimed to fix all issues and cause perfect magic health boost gets found to be pretty bad after timeWhat's next? You're going to tell me Atkins diet (literally killed the creator) isn't all that safe, or that Ozempic isn't a magic wonder drug for weight loss? (There are class action lolsuits out there right now for health complications caused by ozempic)
>>20943395The has been the second most racist board on the site for at least 10 years. You are hilariously late to the realization that this board is just a food themed /pol/.
>>20943547*This has been
>>20943502How very curious that you know so many alcoholic divorced blue collar workers...
>>20943547>The has been the second most racist board on the site for at least 10 yearsI've been banned for racism on this board like three times just for using racial slurs in a generic insult
>>20943502I'm not a divorced blue collar alcoholic and I do OMAD just because it's most comfortable to me and aligns with my natural appetite. Maybe you just only know divorced blue collar alcoholics.
>>20942421The Standard American Diet is the cause of all chronic disease, so no, I try not to eat normally.
/ck/?
>>20942615That's myopic. They hold a few positions that I disagree with, but as a whole, they are correct about a larger percentage of things - with a better hit rate - than establishment medicine. If disagreement on a single topic threw you into this namecalling fury then I wonder how you function day to day with constant lying from every angle. >>20943401My concern about OMAD or OMA48h would be slowed metabolism / starvation mode. Research that idea so that you don't end up with an obesity battle (also research refeeding after a diet or fast). For example, part of the reason many women struggle with weight is that they're taught to use diets to control their weight, but the cure ends up being the disease, and with dieting they slow their metabolism and retain calories as fat. >>20943015In principle I'd agree but it's more about health in general, which a.) I think is worth an hour or two a month to compare stories and notes and ideas and b.) I do not think you can argue most Americans take pragmatic or active interest in. It's not a dieting club; we do farm tours to check out how homesteaders and farmers raise animals and plants, we watch documentaries and lectures (through WAPF I found out about the GAPs protocol for gut microbiome optimization and found out about regenerative farming), and most importantly for me is acts as an interface for sourcing local pastured, non-vaxxed meat and raw milk and butter. It's more about bringing people of like-mind together. I think society needs many more clubs and foundations of all sorts because it's vivifying to be around people with whom you can speak openly and freely without much self-censorship.
>>20943555that's because they're not allowed outside /b/. maybe if you knew the rules that wouldn't have happened
>>20943837>My concern about OMAD or OMA48h would be slowed metabolism / starvation modethat doesn't happen in 48 hours. to put it bluntly: you don't have the willpower to come even close to your body entering starvation mode
>>20942421no because then they wouldn't be able to posture to a bunch of retarded neets on the internet
>>20943395you're tripping if you think /pol/acks stand a snowballs chance in hell against linecook battle hardened /ck/s
>>20943888funny to think when i posted that image i just got hate from some retards lol
>>20942379lolmao on the rolf flooring
>>20943868Fuck you nigger. That rule was never enforced until very recently.
>>20944063>know a rule, be aware of the rule, understand that you're breaking the rule, acknowledge that the rule is old and that you know the consequences for it, comprehend it is always in play, break it, complain anyways???
>>20944071>rule is never enforced and therefore nonexistent>act surprised when people don't follow itAre you stupid or just retarded
>>20943872These people possibly permanently slowed their metabolisms with sustained calorie restriction:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/oby.21538#oby21538-bib-0003Also look into the Minnesota Starvation Experiment for information about slowed metabolic rate and how refeeding can alleviate it. A monthly fast will not do much to a metabolism, but I wanted to give anon caution that such things done excessively (whatever that means for 48 hour fasts) can lead to affected metabolism.
>>20944104That's why I litter. No one cares and I can't be bothered to carry my trash around until I find a receptacle. Fuck that. I also throw trash from my car windows, jaywalk, never pick up my dogs shit, dump my used cooking oil in the street at night when no one is around, never seperate trash from recycling, smoke in front of building and throw my butts on the ground, and sooooooooo many more.
>>20944109caloric restriction is similar but not the same as fasting. you can still do OMAD/OMEAD and not lose weight if you eat all the calories you need. besides the main benefit of fasting >24 hours is entering autophagy
>>20944121jaywalking is based dont lump it in with such classless behaviors
>>20942615This post smells of Eglin AFB. I used to just gobble up your propaganda until I learned you're a baby killer.
>>20943029does it even matter? they're either a jew or they're jewish
>>20944032saddest post I've ever seen
>>20944207viruses are not caused by RF waves incel. you should have realized that in high school.
>>20944207>Eglin AFBI've got a bookmark that your post reminded me of but I didn't remember the exact name of the Air Force base. I wondered if it might be Elgin. https://web.archive.org/web/20160604042751/http://www.redditblog.com/2013/05/get-ready-for-global-reddit-meetup-day.htmlIt was Elgin. Turns out that internet is manipulated by government agents. I had similar feelings about that anon but I assumed the best of him, and that he was just overly sensitive to one particular issue. Perhaps that was simple astroturfing. In any case I would advise actual humans to be awae of the immense impact that your dietary decisions have upon your life. You do not eat seed oils and endless sugar and atrozine+glypshosate-infused grains with impunity. You do not hold your arm out to any random injection with impunity. You do not drink the tap water with impunity. These things diminish the quality of the one life that you get. You are very unlucky to get it NOW, but because it happens to be now, your burden is that it is best lived if you investigate everything and make intentional decisions. Your ancestors 10,000+ years ago did not deal with intentionally poisoned food and medicine and water, but you do.
>>20944224Only Eglin people said they were, it was a way to discredit any alternative narrative. Now take your meds, you're going to Ukraine soon and you will want to be calm for that.>>20944235Nah you can instantly tell it's them, they only have a handful of badly overused tricks.
>>20942379Don't most people normally eat their last meal three hours before going to be and get eight hours of sleep?
>>20944491If you're sleeping, you're not eating American Heart Association approved plant based Beyond Sun Sausage (Pesto, Hot Italian, and new for 2024, Pineapple Jalapeño). When you're thinking about laying down for the night, be sure to set a mid-sleep alarm so you aren't harming your heart by not eating a 3am meal.
>>20944104>rule is never enforcedOK.>and therefore nonexistantLol. Lmao. You one of those kids who never got told "no" by their parents and had a melty when you weren't spoiled? If someone's excuse for stealing from a store was that the last guy never stopped him, would you agree that he's in the right? Are you stupid?
>>20942383I almost choked laughing at this
>>20944491Do you think 24-(3+8) is 8 or less?
Wouldn't controlling for obesity be one of the first things you'd include in such a study design? They say they had 20,000 participants who they followed over several years. Surely they could have controlled for at least BMI. But it was a shit study where they basically checked in via email or something and the participants just wrote back. No real control whatsoever. https://newsroom.heart.org/news/8-hour-time-restricted-eating-linked-to-a-91-higher-risk-of-cardiovascular-death
>>20942383holy based
>>20944532>>20944104I mean you're both right. It's like any small tier crime. It's not legal, but if law enforcement and the justice system look the other way, it's de facto decriminalized even though it's officially against the law. Naturally, this leads to more and more people viewing it as normal behavior without legal consequences. If, one day, the system suddenly clamps down and prosecutes people who wouldn't have done it had they known enforcement was coming, it's not really fair. On the other hand, a law is a law. Breaking it has potential legal consequences no matter how lax enforcement is in the now. The obvious solution is to either have a rule that is always enforced or have no rule at all. The grey area shit is what has led to junkies shitting up all major cities with crime and tents. The legal system increasingly washes its hands of "petty crime", offloading the consequences to regular working people. Meanwhile they can still bust specific people for the same crime if they really don't like someone. This is typically how it goes in 3rd world banana republics. They have draconian rules, but they only use them to target people they don't like. Meanwhile, the bootlickers get a pass.
>>20944653The authors of the study didn't collect any data. They used old CDC data from other studies that had nothing to do with intermittent fasting. The authors labeled people intermittent dieters if they ate only during an eight hour window two days in a row. Given that these were recall surveys where people were asked to remember what they ate on previous days, there's little chance that they got the exact time correct. Simply forgetting to mention eating breakfast would be enough to get someone labeled as doing intermittent fasting. The study is complete shit but that didn't stop the media from running with it. Do a search on the title of the study and you'll find mainstream media sources from around the world repeating it, which leads to people like OP spreading it around.
>>20942379Sound strange, there’s no way breakfast at 10AM, lunch, and then dinner at 5:30PM is more likely to make me keel o
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>>20942400pretty much this. >Fatties who haven't eaten for 16 hours, running on depleted energy, suddenly gorge themselves on fried shit.>heart flips out
>>20942379>study says
>>20942421Breakfast of cereal, donuts, muffins, and bagels wasn't normal until recently. so go ahead and define what normal eating is. overweight people are also the average now, they are normal. So go ahead and explain what normal and healthy eating is
