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People who "eat healthy" can't cook, or eat. I'm sorry but if you're neglecting things like copious red meat, butter/grease/fat, and sometimes LOTS of salt or sugar where appropriate for the dish......you simply can't cook for shit.
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(You)
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>>20974118
or, hear me out, they have willpower.
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>>20974143
>they have the will to eat healthy!
And the food they make tastes bad? Imagine calling yourself a "cook" when you can't use flavor.
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>>20974118
>>20974144
What's your opinion on liver? I can already tell you will have a retarded take.
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>>20974144
posing an attempt at a statement as a question makes you look like the retard you are
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>>20974149
But you can't cook eggs because you don't use butter or salt. So, you can't cook.

>>20974148
It's poor people food/grandpa food and I'm neither.
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>>20974118
If anything I hold back my culinary skills (aka my cooking is retarded) otherwise it tastes too good and I end up eating a lot. Normally I’ll only go full power for gatherings where I can give people the leftovers.
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>>20974118
>People who "eat healthy" can't cook, or eat.
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>>20974155
you can't poach eggs huh
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"Not using X ingredient" = Bad cook? Does that include vegans, people with allergies and those weird white women who think paprika is spicy?
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>>20974118
I just made a mixed greens salad covered in olive oil, salt, apple cider vinegar, peanuts, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, and mashed potatoes and it eas incredible and basically cost no money.
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Plenty of flavor bombs are good for you. Vinegar, mustard, rosemary, capers, olives, black pepper, hot peppers, garlic and onions, ginger, cinnamon, sauerkraut... if you can't make something appealing using all these great tools, and need a sledgehammer like sugar to make it palatable, that sounds like a (You) problem.
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>>20974218
Nobody would ever say poached eggs taste better than fried or scrambled eggs done the right way, aka with butter and proper seasoning (salt)
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>>20974215
>godskin_noble.jpg
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why yes I only eat meal prepped chicken and broccoli with rice and come on the cooking board to make fun of people who cook food
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>>20976344
poached eggs have always tasted better than fried eggs to me, because runny yolk tastes better than butter. also, eggs already contain sodium before you even cook them.
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>>20974118
Copious red meat, butter, tallow and salt are all infinitely healthier than any product marketed as a healthy alternative to any of these food items.
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>>20976518
Lmfao, you like bland shit picky eater
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health food marketed to americans is literally just excess agricultural product that would've gone to feed pigs
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>>20976809
I'm pretty sure drowning the flavor of every food item with salt and butter is more definitive of picky eating
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>>20974118
The real redpill is cooking healthy for yourself and then massively upping the butter and cream when friends/lovers are over.
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>>20977058
>then massively upping the butter and cream when friends/lovers are over.

make everyone around you a fatass so you are the only cute one.

fantastic
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>>20976518
While I disagree about the poached eggs I will agree that butter can overpower the superior egg yolk. The vast majority of hollandaise recipes have the ratio so far off that it doesn't even really taste like egg yolk anymore. You gotta up those yolks.
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>>20974615
Unironically yes but not because of anything OP is sperging about
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>>20974118

Yeah, this is the uncomfortable truth. The reason people get so fat and unhealthy is simply that all healthy food tastes like shit. What is tasty in this world? SUGAR, FAT, SALT. Those three things are tasty. And they're all extremely unhealthy and will kill you.
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>>20974118
Mediterranean cuisine is undeniably the best in the world. And med countries are amongst the healthies in Europe.
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>>20974118
>People who "eat healthy" can't cook, or eat
This is pretty much the equivalent of saying that people who aren't fentanyl addicts don't have access to quality fentanyl.

Sorry to say this op, but if availability/proximity of something is the sole factor that determines you using/eating it, then you are a seriously weakminded loser individual.

Also, what makes you think that people who eat healthy never eat good food? Eating healthy doesn't mean you have to eat celery and chicken breast 24/7. You can easily fit good and even "unhealthy" foods into a healthy diet. You just need to make sure you don't overeat like a neckbeard hambeast every single fucking day (like you are probably doing)
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>>20974118
Imagine actually biting on this bait. Fuck off you
>Seriously
>Annoying
>Gay
>Entity
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>>20974118
Okay fat fuck.
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>>20974118
It's a choice for me. I'm trying to be less fat... unfortunately, that means not eating like every meal could be my last. Lots of greens, chicken breast, fish, some standard fruits and veggies to keep me sane.
My cheat days are a bit of a thing - usually something carboloaded for breakfast, like french toast, and I do a Sunday roast kind of thing with/for the missus - whether it actually be a roast with taters, or curry with naan, or lasagne, or even spanikopita. Something that feels good to cook.
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isnt it the opposite?

To make delicious food, without excessive fat, salt and sugar, to actually "cook" ingredients using heat and technique.

By you logic a pack of oreos is crafted by chefs.
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If you use a ton of salt you're a retarded ape.
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>>20978317
Sounds pretty reasonable, gl with the fitness goals bro!
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>>20974118
>anon can't make healthy food that tastes good
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>>20974118
Not every meal requires these things
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>>20974118
>fats really think like this
Bigger, thank you for giving me something to contribute to /fph/
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>>20974118
>op
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>>20978452
Thanks man.
The only real hard part so far is not running through the same cycles for food to save time on cooking more boring meals... It's pretty rare I go full on masochist and stick to straight salt and olive oil - I'm murdering garlic and cumin like it's Europe in the 40's.
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>>20978842
would desu but I haven't a crumb of pussy in over a decade
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>>20974118
Counter point: reliance on animal products is a bigger sign that someone is a cooklet.
I'll tell you why I think so, but there will be a mini wall of text: a few years I decided I want to be a better cook so I start devouring cooking content - famous chefs and youtubers. I quickly realised the reliance on animal products and felt a little underwhelmed. I figured that any old bozo can cook a steak in butter and have it turn out delicious. Anyone can add bacon bits and cheese to mashed potatoes and get good reviews.
At that time I had recently read about the concept of constrained creativity and realised that if I elimate all the impossible-to-fuck-up ingredients it would force me to get crafty and learn how to use herbs and spices, it would force me to experiment with things like chili paste/oils, things like miso and black bean paste etc, it forced me to learn how to make great sauces. So I decided to eat vegan foods only for two weeks so I would have no other choice but to make grains, beans/lentils, and nuts and seeds edible.
I ended up eating vegan food for like 18 months (I didn't want to become lactose intolerant so I would drink a glass of milk every 2 or 3 days), I was really having fun experimenting and continually impressed by how tasty I could make stuff (to my own personal tastes of course).
Then I started re-introducing fish, chicken, eggs etc which obviously took everything to the next level. Even adding a very simply cooked chicken breast to a rich stir-fried barley dish makes for an incredibly satisfying meal. Brine and/or marinate and/or smoke some meat that you can add to a standalone grain/veggie dish and you've got some gourmet shit
TL;DR you are fake news
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>>20979062
This is retarded
>I noticed every chef just relies on using ingredients, where's the fun in that
>so I wasted a year on beans trying to force myself to like them
Dude you could have just easily swap this around and say that chefs rely too much on plant ingredients and spent your year eating meat
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>>20979075
Absolutely not. Meat is incredibly hard to mess up, grains are difficult to make appetising. I deliberately turned the difficulty up and it made me a better, crafter player. Simple as
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>>20979075
Wtf man, name a chef who 'relies' on grains and kale
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>>20979211
Nta, but the guys at 11 Madison Park these days
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>>20979062
not reading that lol
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>>20979218
That's fine sweetheart
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>>20979216
I just checked their stuff and fair enough it seems like you got me there but they probably aren't well known outside NY
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>>20979242
Voted worlds best restaurant in 2017. Most people don't know who thomas keller is either, but if you're in certain niche groups, you'll know them both
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>>20979417
I was born in 2019 so naturally I'd never heard that was the case
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>>20979489
You're very eloquent for a five-year-old.
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>>20974118
>People who "eat healthy" can't cook
This isn't even remotely true. And the rest of your post makes you sound like a whiny manchild
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>>20979506
Thank you, my aunt is J.K Rowling
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>>20974626
Does the S stand for SHIT because that is what that meal sounds like
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the truth is that red meat, butter/animal fat and salt arent unhealthy
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>>20976518
Nah over easy fried in butter and some toast. All I need. And it’s not even that unhealthy. I like a poached egg too don’t get me wrong.
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>>20974626
salad is probably the most miserable way to prepare and eat vegetables.

I’d rather have them roasted, boiled, as part of a soup, or microwaved/steamed.

olive oil roasted cauliflower is good
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>>20979569
in and of themselves, no, not in the least. They're calorically dense, and go well with other high energy things, like buttered up mashed potatoes with gravy.
They're easy to overdo. Few people get fat on spinach and roasted chicken breast... Few people overdose on salt, but it's possible.
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>>20974215
This is honestly hot to me as a female
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>>20979578
Hard disagree man, a quarter pound of vegetables plus a half an ounce of a fucking delicious dressing is a transcendent experience. Tasty, lots of crunching, lots of variety in texture and flavour and you're basically eating three multivitamins with fibre and antioxidants on top. Learn to make a nice blueberry/cranberry vinaigrette or something and you devour an abnoxious amount of a low-kcal refreshing healthy meal with less calories than 2 bags of chips/cqrisps
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>>20977083
> cute

show tits or gtfo whore
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>>20979616
>with a ounce of dressing
yeah, dressing is just cope for how shit a salad is. Even homemade salsa is better than that shit.
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>>20979663
>dressing is just cope for how shit a salad is
Maybe so fat boy but you should have at leeeeaaast 2 meals a week that is exclusively made of healthy ass food. A good salsa is nowhere near as good as good -made-to-your-tastes vinaigrette
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>>20979752
I dunno man, I make some good salad dressing, but I make some good pico and tomatillo sauce. All of it's pretty good with crisp veg, only some of it's good with dead tortillas.
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>>20974118
No need to cook, I just live off of beer and my own cum
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>>20979577
The toast is probably the least healthy aspect. If I'm going to put butter to eggs there's going to be spinach involved.
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>>20974854
You're insulting most east-asian cuisine with that statement.
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>>20979663
Bro that's a soup not a salsa

you need to thicken that shit up, thicken it right up!
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>>20979898
If I'm involving butter and spinach with eggs, it's probably going to be some kind of florentine. At that point, I'm having all of the speck, and all of the hollandaise... ... and that's probably happening for breakfast this Sunday. I'll even make my own english muffins.

The rest of the week (if I'm even home to eat breakfast), I usually do hardboiled eggs by themselves or softboiled, maybe with some buttered toast if I'm being good the rest of the day.
My boss and some of my coworkers have seen me push the ass end of an F150 90 degrees to get it out of my way, but nobody else would believe that I could because I've become a fat fuck.
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>>20979062
I have the exact opposite experience. I'm tired of using a million ingredients to flavor plant-based foods. Instead of these concoctions of oils, aromatics, herbs, spices, tomato paste, soy sauce, vinegar, broth, fermented bean pastes, coconut milk, peanut butter and so on I like the simplicity yet detailed complexity of cooking a single food item like a steak or a brisket to perfection.
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>>20974118
95% of Americans would be much better off health nutrition-wise if they made whatever main dish they wanted for dinner, with an appropriate size portion, and then for a side they had a big green leafy salad.
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>>20974118
cooking while poor and on a budget is the best way to learn how to cook good and healthy because the cheapest foods are vegetables
learn how to make a good soup and you'll be set
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>>20979912
Fat, acid, salt. Doesn't matter what kind of fat or acid (as long as they're edible). You don't need to add a million things to greens, lentils, brussels sprouts, sweet potatoes - you can, but a little butter or oil, some salt and pepper, and maybe some vinegar or citrus go a long way. Cabbage isn't as good as an aged steak, but it's also good with just a pinch of salt. Like an aged steak, it's also better with mushrooms, shallots, butter, potatoes, and a cold beer or a glass of wine, but all things are.
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>>20979922
Okay but that doesn’t explain the half-eaten pizza crust in OP.
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>>20979924
OP may have been trying for satire? Does it need an explanation?
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>>20979922
Sure plants can be tasty but more like a condiment than the main course. If you're inclined to be skinny then it's easy to starve on a plant-based diet.
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>>20979911
I'm the opposite. I have physical and mental conditions that prevent me from eating and now I've withered to 122 pounds. I desperately need to eat more food and just cannot manage it.

I also have a physical job where I work 13 hour shifts so my caloric expenditure is that much higher and impossible to reach.

I do eat a lot of boiled eggs though. I try to at least get my 50-100g of protein a day.
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>>20979663
how do you even put this on the chips, it's so watery
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>>20979616
I like salad just for how easy and quick it is to make, but still has infinite potential so I never get bored. I'll admit I'm very biased though, I've had a sandwich+salad as my work lunch for the last 8 years. The best salad I've had was a garden mix with gizzards someone's grandma made for me once, no idea what was in the dressing though.
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>>20979508
Your food tastes bad because you don't cook red meat, or use fats, sugars, or salts
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>>20974118
I eat healthy
>neglecting things like copious red meat, butter/grease/fat
I don't do that
>sometimes LOTS of salt or sugar
Okay that I avoid
>you simply can't cook for shit
I'm a very good cook
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>>20979211
Alain Passard
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>>20974118
Boiled chicken tastes unironically better than some generic steak.
Also pork>chicken>beef



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