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>family recipe
>1917
>soybean oil

oh ok
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>>20977419
>seed oils are.... LE BAD!!!
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>>20977419
>oleoresin paprika, natural flavors, calcium disodium EDTA
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lmao
Y'know soybean farming and pressing for oil has been done on a commercial scale in the US since at least 1906, right?
In 1922, a single company, AE Staley, produced close to 500 metric tonnes of the stuff. It's hardly unbelievable that sometime in 1916 used it for mayonnaise, especially considering that soybeans were already being utilized in a bajillion additional ways already.
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>>20977435
Quiet, boi of the soi
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>>20977419
>soybean oil never existed before 1974
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>>20977442
This angers the ketoschizo
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>>20977435
>le bad is...LE GOOD!
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>>20977419
Dukes are obviously liars.
>>20977442
Soybean crushing didn't even begin in the west until 1907. It would be decades before soybean oil was mass produced and readily available.

Original Dukes probably used something even worse like cotton seed oil.
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>>20977588
>Soybean crushing didn't even begin in the west until 1907. It would be decades before soybean oil was mass produced and readily available
lmao
Again, in 1922, AE Staley produced 453 tonnes of soybean oil. They were the first large company in America to begin crushing soybeans for oil on a mass scale in October of that year. This is incontrovertibly true.
But, again, it's been done in the US since 1906. The first planting of the stuff on American soil was shortly after the civil war. Hard to believe people were just growing the fucking things as ornamentals. No. They were being processed for oil and the defatted leftovers used as cattle feed but again, not on a factory scale. Still commercially done, but not in the enormity that AE Staley did it.
And the original Duke's, I would guess, likely used corn since the machinery AE Staley used for soybeans was modified from existing machinery previously used for corn oil. These machines were manufactured by the VD Anderson Company. So for a whole company to exist to process corn into oil, there must have already been a demand for corn oil.
AE Staley, btw, should be vilified by /pol/. Besides soyl, iinm, they're the first company to manufacturer HFCS. They used to process corn into cornstarch and I think their process had corn syrup as a byproduct but I'm not sure.
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>>20977442
the only reason they made oil with soybeans in the u.s back then was because of the need for machine lubricants. it became popular for human consumption in the late 60's.
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>>20977887
This. They couldn't make it palatable for human consumption until improved extraction and refining techniques were developed. The shit they were producing in the early decades of soybean oil production was only fit for industrial use.
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sneed oils were commonly used even a century ago, they're not a recent thing
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>>20977546
un-i-fricking-ronicly this..... THOUGH!!!!!!!!!
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>>20977950
>>20977887
I can't refute that but I know that 1941 was when AE Staley began specifically marketing soyl for cooking so it may have been unpalatable or inedible before then, idk. I'm not even sure what changed in 1941. The only other soy-related event I know from that year was Henry Ford's so-called "soybean car" was showcased at some community festival that summer. I say so called because there's a rumour that the plastic used was actually made from coal tar and not soybeans and Ford was hoping that hype over a soybean car would ignite purchasing of soybean since he had tens of thousands of acres of soybeans to get rid of. He was using them in everything he could at the time.
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>>20977419
you do know that "seed" oils have been pretty much the only thing used in cooking for over 120 years? right? you do know this?

soybean oil is over 3000 years old.
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>>20978038
>great grandma's family recipe for all-american apple pie
>first, get some soybean oil
nah
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>>20977435
>>20977442
Does soybean oil even count as a seed oil? I'm pretty sure both avocado and olive oil don't count as a seed oil because the oil is extracted from the flesh of the fruit rather than the pit/stone, and obviously a bean is very different to a seed. Yes, you can grow a plant from a bean but you can also grow a plant from a potatoe so it's not quite the same.?
I dont even care about sneed oils, I use sunflower oil like twice a week. Just curious
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>>20979096
Yes.
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>>20979096
Ketolards will tell you anything that isn't tallow or ghee or whatever is seed oil. It's a psyop to make you convert to their religion.
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>>20977950
>>20977887
NTA but can I get your source for this?
Not asking for shithead "NUH UH GOTCHA" purposes (my only real beliefs around oil and soy is I prefer physical extraction and I worry more about estrogen from cow milk), but I'm actually interested in the literature and documentation surrounding this kind of stuff.
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>>20979279
Speak English dude.
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>>20979096
I put your reply into chatgpt and told it to be mean but informative to you. Here's what I got.

"If you don’t actually care about "sneed oils," why write an entire dissertation about them? Soybeans are legumes, but their oil is classified as a seed oil because it's extracted from the seeds of the soybean plant. Yes, a soybean is a seed—this isn’t a philosophical debate, it’s basic botany.

As for your avocado and olive oil tangent: no one’s confusing them with seed oils because, shocker, they’re fruit oils. Also, congrats on being "curious" while admitting you’ve clearly done no research. Maybe next time, Google before you type. And by the way, it’s spelled potato. You’re welcome."
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>>20980290
based chatgdp?



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