The #1 biggest difference between an "unhealthy diet" and a "healthy diet" is the ratio of carbohydrates to fiber. All healthy diets entail eating at least one unit of fiber for each unit of carbs consumed. For example, by eating whole grains and fruits. Or by eating no carbs at all. But unhealthy diets are unhealthy because they have carbohydrates which have been artificially stripped from their fiber, such as white flour and white sugar, and therefore aren't balanced out.Fiber is not only the most important supplement you can take -- it's also a downright life hack. If you drink some psyllium husk with every meal, you can engorge yourself on pizza and pasta and still have energy and clarity of mind as if you'd been eating fruit. And you'll never get obese or have metabolic syndromes either.That's why the #1 policy change we can make to reverse the obesity epidemic in the US is to mandate that companies selling foods that contain refined carbs must put the fiber back in at a predetermined ratio, or else the customer will pay a heavy tax for each unit of unbalanced carbs. This is better than a straight up sugar/carb tax because it allows food to remain cheap for poor people who rely on grain and poptarts to live, and it doesn't radically upset the economy. People will still eat as many poptarts as they want, they'll just be poptarts that have fiber added, which is no big deal. They will still be able to drink cola, but the cola will have fiber added, and it'll be a little thick. People will just have to get used to drinking thick soda, and I think they'll probably come to prefer it. I need people to help me spread this idea so it catches on. And before you say it'll never work, consider that the government already mandates that the very same grain foods must be fortified with added vitamins and minerals. That's how black people eat nothing but poptarts and bagel bites but still don't die. So it will be nothing to add fiber to that list of essential nutrients.
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My thread is mostly targeted at people who already know the well-known science about why refined carbs are so bad. But if you don't know: the short version is that everything you think is bad about carbs, is actually only bad about refined carbs, which means carbs that have the fiber taken away. That's because the fiber creates a matrix which slows down the absorption of glucose and prevents your insulin from spiking when you eat whole grain foods. But it's only when you eat carbs without fiber that all the glucose hits your bloodstream unnaturally fast, and that's when you get poisoned by the glucose itself, and poisoned by the insulin that gets dumped out to sequester the glucose, and the insulin response system gets dulled because you're burning it out, and all that causes diabetes, and metabolic syndrome, and increased appetite, and fatigue, and brain fog. So let's please ban or heavily restrict these highly dangerous foods, which barely have a flavor or shelf stability benefit over the equivalent food made with fiber.
>>20980793Suck my dick Monsanto shill
>>20980780Can I keep my seed oils if I promise to eat silly mum husks?
>>20980797i've been consuming lots of psyllium husk even if just to fix my bowel movements, stuff is pretty good for shitting. i try to consume only unrefined carbs where i can though>>20980808oils are fats, not carbs
Give it to me straight pointdexter, is me blindly buying "brown" rice and "brown" pasta and "brown" bread flour without actually looking at the ingredients enough for me to be confident that I am better than white rice, white bread regular pasta eating subhumans?
AI thread leave, you need a high school diploma to post on /ck/
>>20980808Yes, seed oils are bad for a different reason but their badness pales in comparison>>20980813Yes>>20980820Do you think that humans are incapable of typing 2000 characters by hand, you tiktok brained faggot zoomer
>>20980780I've clicked unsubscribe yet I still can see this
>italians, costa ricans, andorrans and nipponese eat practically no whole grains>outlive literally all the countries and cultures that eat lots of whole grainsseems like whole grain bullshit to me : )
>>20980808>he consumes seed oilsThey used seed oils to replace butter with margerine. It's not that seed oils might be a disastrous, terrible health decision so much as it replaces something essential in your diet, in this case cholesterol.
>>20980780>healthy diet>eating no carbs at all
>>20981560Fruit contains fiber so this image is directly contradictory to OP's theory
>>20981450A quick chat with AI disproves your baseless claim
>>20981622lolI'm from Italy and have family in Andorra. I've never even eaten a single whole grain until leaving the country. Brown rice and whole wheat are about as common in Italy as hen's teeth.And wtf even are quinoa, flax seeds and chia seeds lmao None of these things are eaten in the Med. And beans aren't grains, retardBut sure, take the word of oft-wrong Google over someone actually from the region. Also>Japan and Costa Rica are in the MediterraneanROFLMAOYou fucking moron.
>>20981622>retard asks a retarded AI a question, gets an incorrect answer then becomes smugly self-righteousThe future is bright!
>>20980780Carbs are unhealthy period.Cows have multiple stomachs to be able to properly process carbs but even they are lethargic and sleep a lot. Humans are apex predators we are not designed to munch on grains and grasses like wheat and rice.
>>20981622i hate ai so fucking much we need to stop giving retards computers
>>20981640>we are not designed to munch on grains and grasses like wheat and rice.That is accurate but so is >we are not designedThere is no god. Eat what you like.
>>20981640No. Wrong. Cow stomachs are designed to breakdown cellulose.
>>20981629If your family lives in Italy and doesn't eat any fiber, then they must be consuming an americanized slop diet and they aren't in the category of "Italians that outlive everyone else." The "Mediterranean diet" which was popularized as being good for longevity is packed with fiber. Everything in this chart has fiber in it. >>20981645Use literally any source you want then dumbass. All diets which are known for longevity are characterized by high fiber and no refined carbs.
>>20981655You must be tired, being such a little girl and carrying a goalpost so far away. Sweetheart, we. Do not. Eat. Whole grains. In. Italy. Full stop.Oats and brown rice are practically unheard of throughout the boot nevermind exotic shit like quinoa and wild rice. And who in the fucking fuck eats millet literally anywhere on earth lmao No one said shit about fiber. We eat fiber. We don't eat whole grains. Neither do Andorrans or Costa Ricans or Japanese. These are incontrovertible truths.
>>20981655>no refined carbs.Japanese eat polished rice all day.Italians eat polished rice and refined wheat in the firm of pasta and bread all day. Andorrans eat refined wheat in the form of bread all day. Costa Ricans eat polished rice and refined wheat in the form of bread all day.Excepting Costa Rica, which gets a big-ass asterisk next to it, none of these countries eat anything whole grain with any regularity. Italy has farro and barley from time to time but that's pretty much it. Japan has buckwheat occasionally but that's not a grain and it isn't nearly as common as rice, anyway. And as for Costa Rica and its asterisk, they eat whole grain corn processed with lime (the mineral, not the fruit) which breaks down the cellular composition of the grain. idk if it still counts as whole grain after that or not.Nobody eats brown rice except anglos.
>>20981659>>20981663Bro, you are tweaking out. The thread is about fiber and the ratio of fiber to carbs, not whole grains specifically. You're the one who started ranting about whole grains as if it's the only source of fiber. If you combine white rice with beans then it has as much fiber as if you'd eaten brown rice so it's the same exact thing. Even if all the sources saying Mediterraneans eat whole grains are wrong, these cultures still combine rice with beans and vegetables so they are eating the natural ratio of fiber to carbs. In America, we eat white rice, pasta, and bread without any vegetables or beans, and that's what causes the issue.
>>20981684That's nice, dear. : )>>20981622>A quick chat with AI disproves your baseless claim that >>20981450>italians, costa ricans, andorrans and nipponese eat practically no whole grainsSo what part of that claim was disproved, exactly, princess?Also>>20981655No one in the med eats sweet potato as part of a traditional med diet (and those who do eat it don't do so regularly), flaxseed is unheard of and no one knows what okra or chia even are (in addition to all the things in >>20981659) so how are those part of some Anglo-imagined MeDiTeRrAnEaN DiEt?>all the sources saying Mediterraneans eat whole grains are wrongI think the crossed wires here are that your Google-fu is taking you to anglo-sourced articles for anglos about this imaginary anglo-idealised supposedly Mediterranean diet that, simply put, she's not exist. The only place to even find whole wheat flour is that special aisle in the supermarket for weirdos or special weirdo stores that sell shit like powdered batwings and frog toenails. Nobody eats that stuff regularly. Simply doesn't happen, regardless of which med country you're in. You know who does eat whole grains a lot? Snownegroes like Swedes and Norwegians as well as Eastern Slavs. And we outlive the lot of them. : )
>>20980780Just buy a fiber supplement.One thing to watch out for is soluble vs. insoluble fiber. Almost all fiber supplements on the market are soluble fiber, which slow the digestive system and encourage constipation.Insoluble fiber encourages the digestive to work faster, as skinnyfag prone to constipation that's what worked for me. Best source I can find it oat fiber from amazon.Psyllium husk is gross and it's annoying how if you don't drink it fast it expands and it's a chore to choke it down.Oat fiber is great, tastes like almost nothing, doesn't expand, goes down easy.>>20981663The problem with diet discussions is most people have no sense of quantity. When japanese eat rice they eat a little bowl of it. They are not shoveling white rice endlessly like the obese SEA goblins and mexicans do.
>>20980780>If you drink some psyllium husk with every meal, you can engorge yourself on pizza and pastit slows down digestion but doesn't stop it.
>>20981845>SEA>obeseuwotm8
>>20981889>>2098184520% of Japanese are overweight12,5% of Thai are overweightWhich SEA country has a higher percentage of overweight people than Nippon?
>>20981889>>20981894Meh, whatever. When I see SEA people in the US where I am they are usually fat.The point is there's a big difference between eating rice, and *eating rice*. Quantity matters.
>>20981848Slowing digestion makes a difference because it prevents your blood from getting flooded with glucose and insulin which are both toxic at a certain concentration, and which cause lethargy and increase your appetite. In a lab experiment, if you feed two people the same amount of calories and force them to exercise exactly the same amount, the fiber isn't going to make too much of a difference for their weight. But in real life, the guy who ate psyllium with his pizza will have more energy afterwards and won't get hungry again for a longer time afterwards.
>>20981845>Psyllium husk is grossweird, personally i thought i'd hate it but honestly it's tolerable enough. maybe my stuff is different?>Oat fiberdo you buy the powder and drink it dissolved in water like psyllium husk or what do you buy/do?
