>makes every mom-n-pop restaurant/bar and grill menu the same
>>21086362explain the sysco hate? everytime this thread gets posted or a comment about sysco, I ask, and no one answers in any logical or rational way.
>>21086370This. >>21086362Aren't they just a supplier of restaurants quantity groceries? Like 50lb bushels of celery or whatever?
>>21086376They supply a lot of prepared foods too
>>21086386ThisThose breaded mushrooms are garbage and every bar has them on their menu
>>21086393Then your real problem is with shit lazy bars & "mom-n-pop" places who use this low-grade lazy slop.
>>21086398And huge food vendors like Sysco enable them
>>21086404>If Sysco didn't exist they wouldn't be lazy!Don't be so fucking dense. Sysco sell stuff because people buy it. If it wasn't Sysco it'd be someone else.The only ones enabling this shit are people like you who insist on eating this lazy shit-tier slop and then complaining about it. If you stopped buying it then the restaurants & bars would stop buying it.
>>21086370They're one of maybe three large food suppliers, so there isn't much variance. Leaves something to be desired. As far as why they suck, they're fine for shit like napkins, silverware and other restaurant related non food items. Bulk items like flour and yeast are fine too. Its their prepared foods that are shit slop. And some scummy places will try to pass off Sysco slop as their own food. They get from the same large suppliers of meat, dairy, vegetables etc so the food is pretty generic. Ideally a good mom and pop place gets some food supplies from smaller or more specialty sources so that they can stand out a bit. But there are many that just use Sysco for all their food. Or Aramark. Personal anecdote, my college dining hall was supplied by Sysco and the only things I could eat out of there and not get sick were cereal with milk and PBJs. I ate a lot of ramen for those two years.
>>21086411No, they're being enabled. It's not hard to bread and fry mushrooms, and since Sysco offers them an easy route, some will take it. When operating a business, time saved is money saved. But it's a shitty lazy thing to do, because as I said breading and frying mushrooms is not hard at all. It's not entirely Sysco's fault but they are partially to blame. Denying that is just simping for them.
>>21086362>>21086370literal prison food
>>21086419If people didn't buy it, they wouldn't sell it. This goes for any product. The blame is entirely on your lazy fucking restaurant owners for not making their own food
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>>21086393>every bar has them on their menuI don't think I've ever seen those.
>>21086362nah, it was boomers.they only like certain dishes, and that's ok.most other shit just isn't as good.
>>21086362They sell whole ingredients too, but most restaurants pass off their frozen prepared slop as their own.
>>21086362well la dee fucking da, if it isn't for the shiny Sysco truck that ran over my pet cat in 2019. I still haven't taken vengeance upon on yet. Maybe soon
>>21086653>the truck ran it over, not the driver
>>21086412well I haven't seen a sysco truck at any restaurant where I live. every restaurant I go to has good food. but I avoid ihop, applebees, and denny's so...>>21086452uh... no it's not.
>>21086393yeah, its gone way past mom and pops. nearly every mid tier sit down can sling thier slop. they even tell you how to add your subtle flair so it less applebees and more you.
>>21087164And then between that and the waitresses disappearing for half an hour at a time to dab and text or get fucked or whatever they do, mid-tier restaurant owners wonder why people aren't going out to eat.
The official seal of quality
I just save my money and avoid restaurants.
>>21086370Supposedly one of the places they sell supplies to is prisons, so schizos think poison is being sold to restaurants. Because they're stupid.
Ever since I got a job as an accountant for restaurants I stopped going to them. Waiters get paid a lot more than line cooks after tips, it's sort of sad.Also if you have a favorite restaurant order directly from them if it's available instead of through grubhub and shit. Their fees are ridiculous.
>>21087246what strip club does your mom work at
>>21087073I believe they are semi regional. They are definitely nationwide but they're more common in the Northeast. Midwest you see more Aramark.
Because food involves a fuckton of manual labor, especially to make a variety of meals from scratch. So generally people are taking some shortcuts as a restaurant. And using Sysco can be a crutch of buying premade sauces and processed foods so they can offer a big wide menu of goyslop, instead of a few dishes they actually cook in house and put care and effort into.As well, it means they aren't willing to look for local suppliers and try to source seasonal foods.
>>21086370its just terminally online schizos and retards looking for something to screech incoherently aboutjust call them niggers and move on
>>21087388Aramark is based in the Northeast and Sysco is based in Houston. Why would they focus operations in each others' backyards rather than their own?
>>21087416When I worked in Ohio both kitchens were Aramark, the Browns stadium used Aramark as well. Every place I've worked in Jersey has been Sysco.
>>21087436That doesn't answer the question.
>>21086393Bro its fucking fried food, who cares if its frozen or made from scratch.
>>21087442I care
>>21087442food made from scratch tastes betterI'd rather have a menu of 6-8 items, all made from scratch, than 30 different things mostly made from processed goyslop menus are too big
>>21086362You can use SYSCO for nothing more than napkins and your takeout containers. So, hating a supplier because some businesses use thei same fries or jalapeno poppers is kind of stupid, don't you think? Your issue with a bad menu should mean your local restaurants should change their menus, do more in the kitchen towards "homemade" items, or else close/lose their business because you patronize other choices instead.My favorite steakhouse grows their own veggies, on their own farm. They have an actual pastry chef and a 2nd dining room to move to for dessert and after dinner drinks. They also have their own cattle ranch and control their product. Do I eat there exclusively...no, but I know that I'm fine at Trivia Night Wednesdays at my local mom n pop, where the salad is topped with a perfectly doine chargrilled skirt steak and large chunks of blue cheese, or I could get the boneless wings, which I am sure they don't make on site, but if the beer is cold, so be it if I want buffalo sauced wings. I'm there for the trivia, my friends and a diversion and I know exactly what I want to order because I know what is made there or looks good on other tables. Getting a good experience can depend on the "when in rome" mentality. If the entire menu sucks, then the price is right, the hours fit the needs of the community, or they close down.
>>21086362How do you figure? Do you think actual restaurants use readymade pre-packaged foods that are indistinguishable?Incorrect.You're attacking the wrong restaurants. "Mom and Pop" are using fewer shitty products than chains are.Mom and Pops all use a purveyor like Sysco or FSA but none of them serve garbage food.>>21086370OP has no idea what he's talking about. Sysco sells everything. They sell bulk eggs and meats and produce and EVERYTHING. And some of that is really shitty stuff like canned sausage gravy that just needs warmed up and fully baked and frozen biscuits. This is what OP thinks these small local diners are serving. MAYBE a shitty bar has something like that, but you're far better off going to a privately owned restaurant than some corporate chain if you're looking for fresh food.You'll see a Sysco truck outside every single place. Even McDonalds. Most restaurants use them mainly for condiments and things like chicken base and buckets of mayonnaise. Even The French Laundry is going to use Sysco for something. That doesn't mean the microwave garbage that you'll see vendors promoting at food conventions are being bought and served at your local watering hole. OP doesn't know jack shit. I've worked in the industry for 20 years and Sysco doesn't mean what he thinks it means. The restaurants buy their actual FOOD from butchers and farmers. You should be able to tell from the menu if you're going to be eating fresh or not.
>>21086386>>21086393You eat at the wrong places. Don't eat at shitty bars who serve pre-prepared shit. >>21086398THIS.
>>21086471do you excuse the crimes of heroin salesman, too?
>>21086419So this is all based on some bitter faggot who had those shitty mushrooms?? LOLActually breaded mushrooms are stupid and no one would go to the trouble to make them by hand. They'd just serve something else. Sysco hasn't done anything wrong. YOU are to blame for patronizing businesses who even SERVE such garbage. You really are going to the shittiest bars around. Go to the trendy part of town where the hipsters drink and you'll find all homemade good gastropub fare. You choose to drink at some shitty tavern with deep fried shit on the menu you get what you deserve.>simpingGo back to /pol/.
>>21087479shitty bars are good retard
>>21086393You have low class and bad taste. Go to a GOOD place. You're the problem!
>>21086538>Most restaurantsNo. Fucking retard. That's not true.
>>21087246Again, this is on YOU for patronizing stripmall eateries. What shit state do you live in? Drive across town FFS.
sysco defense force itt
>>21087366What happened to visiting a location and eating there? Grubhub is for fucking retards. PIZZA is for delivery. Anything else and you're hiring a taxi to bring you food. It's fucking senseless.
>>21087403You're eating in the wrong places. Pull your head out of your ass. Inform yourself. I only eat at places where everything is made from scratch. You're just dumb.
>>21087445>>21087446You have the wrong taste then. You want deep-fried foods that are also made from scratch you won't find many. Dredging in flour and then egg wash and then breading is a messy endeavor. Go to the south to a specialty place that does just that or expect shit.
>>21087487Not for food. That's the whole point. Either don't eat there or don't go. But expecting them to handmake you good fried foods is ridiculous.
>>21087487just not the food? lol
>>21087487yeah, they're good because I can rawdog some alcoholic milf guilt-free since she probably already has herpes and because I can get the barkeep to microwave a frozen pizza for me. not for the michelin star experience.
>>21087503There are sysco users, and liars. I said fuck restaurants, I buy from a farm. I cook and eat at home. Healthy and saving money
>>21087665Then you have no dog in this fight and shouldn't be arguing about it. Don't eat out? Disqualified from the club of opinion havers.
>>21087665Yes, everyone pretty much DOES use Sysco, but since you don't go out and eat you don't realize that they all use it for condiments and napkins, not ready-made food they call their 'famous home recipe'. That shit is rare. And anyone dumb enough to eat at those places deserves their canned nacho cheese product. Maybe if you weren't so ignorant on the subject you'd feel comfortable eating out more often. But you eat at home, farmboy. Good for you.
>>21087480selling actual heroin instead of fentanyl could be considered service to the community today
>>21087686I've worked at numerous restaurants, most shit is either sysco or restaurant depot. Only a few meme restaurants have SOME, I repeat, some ingredients local. The amount of restaurants who do all scratch local in the whole country I can count on one hand. More will lie about it, but hey, whatever flex makes you feel whole as a man
>>21087738I was on fentanyl for a year or so because of a then-recent amputation. I should actually still be taking it but it didn't help with the pain, it just made me loopy enough to not care. Didn't like that feeling so against medical advice, I weaned myself off it. This actually causes an issue with my insurance, claiming that they won't cover any health issues because I wasn't taking fentanyl anymore. The American health system is so fucking weird
>>21087775>mandated fentanyl use
>>21087809I've still got a bunch of it somewhere in the basement because I don't know what to do with it. Thank goodness my kid's not a moron and knows not to touch shit like that.
>>21087508kfc can do a mom-and-pop shop can too t.worked at kfc
>>21087480Yes, if people want to kill themselves, let them. Stop this gay narcan shit, let them OD
>>21087501Please explain why having one type of food delivered to your house is fine but another type of food isn't. What exactly do you imagine is the difference between getting a pizza delivered and getting any other kind of food delivered?
>>21086393sysco tendies aren't bad. better than the ones from mcdonalds or burger king.
>>21087760Cute bait. You've never heard of a chef apparently. And you've only worked at places with kitchen managers. My entire city has zero places that don't make every item from scratch. You're retarded.
>>21086524fpbp
I like how Dall-E automatically knew to put him in a mobility scooter
>>21088252>My entire city has zero places that don't make every item from scratch.imagine being this delusional
>>21088246He either lives in cornfuck, kansas and the only restaurants with their own delivery service is pizza places, so he's saying "don't pay for scam apps that charge you double what a regular delivery should" which is reasonable although filtered through his retarded context, or he's just severely autistic and decided that the only legitimate kind of food delivery is pizza for an unknowable reason
>>21086471drunk people don't give a shit if you pull their food out of a bag in the freezer and toss it in a vat of used fryer oil
>>21086471>>21088305everything these anons say is true
>>21086362I need a list of places that use sysco, because all the restaurants I eat on a regular basis have really good food.
>>21087388I live in the southwest and I have seen sysco trucks but never at any restaurant I frequent.
>>21087446>food made from scratch tastes betternot always. the best onion rings I have ever had are from jack in the box. most made from scratch onions rings have way too much breading on them.
>>21087476>OP has no idea what he's talking about. Sysco sells everything.I've been to many ma and pa places and the food was always good to excellent. 20+ years ago we used to eat at applebees, but got tired of their bland boring food, constantly pushing boozy drinks, sticky tables, and loud music.the food was never terrible, but it was also not really good.I eat at a lot of chain restaurants because there are not many ma and pa places in the part of town I live in. I have not had any bad food, bad service, or food poisoning. some places are even really good.
>>21087073It actually is. Sysco delivers to prisons and schools too thats why the food is so dogshit in murica.
>>21086370Sysco is a distributor. They basically are a middle-man. They find the products, pack it up and ship it to restaurants. Sysco is notorious for literally finding dirty ass produce and factory farmed hormone injected meat. It’s literally the lowest quality slop of the slop industry. They serve prisons for a reason and it’s not because their food is good.
>>21089255If you’re eating dogshit food in murica youre dogshit poor or lazy. You can get amazing quality, but like you, 50% or more of the population are just lazy fucks who settle for everything they find for cheap.
>>21087775I don't take narcotic pain killers and haven't for years. one doctor said he was giving me a prescription even though I told him I wouldn't fill it. several doctors think I am weird because I don't take prescribed pain killers, because they don't work. they just make me feel stupid.I use tylenol, aspirin and ibuprofen.
>>21089256>I used literally 3 timesInb4
>>21089256another irrational post.
>>21089256>PrisonsNope, that's primarily Aramark and Sodexo.
>>21089294While they are both big names in the “cheap garbage” industry, I’ve been to prison 4 times in 3 different counties and I always remember seeing Sysco trucks.
>>21089474Maybe stop going to prison, nigger.
>>21089479>try to warn people about low quality food>”hurr durr ur bad person” *chomp down on Sysco “100% beef” burger* I shur won that one”Ok
>>21087775What’s fucking sad is that heroin is the most effective and pretty cheap pain reliever, but it’s deemed “unsafe” just because of how effective it is. Yet fentanyl is basically a cheaper alternative yet has so many downsides to it and they’d rather prescribe that. I was a heroin addict and I thank me getting clean to the fetty switch. I hated it. It had a short high and just made me tired as fuck the whole time.
>>21089531Stop doing things that lead to you getting locked up, you tragic cunt>>21089547What's fucking sad is that desperados like you think you have any place to comment on anything. Broken fuck.
>>21087775why didn't you just "flush it down the toilet" and say you were taking it?
>>21089560I was asking the pain management team for alternatives, telling them that the fentanyl wasn't doing anything and was making me depressed, which I've never experienced before. That was my first mistake because they put literally every little thing you say into your record. For example, the other time, surely after the amputation, I mentioned to the vascular surgeon during a check up and refitting that while I'm still getting used to using mobility aids, I use a pedal machine under my desk at work so that I can still do cardio moreorless like I always have. Well, my insurance caught wind of that and was like "yeah, dude's not disabled enough, time to cut off those disability medical benefits." It took this shit happening twice to learn my lesson, but I did. I don't mention anything extra during visits now. As for just flushing then, after I posted this morning I looked up what to do with the fentanyl and I was surprised it says to flush it. If it's so dangerous, should it really go into the water like that?
>>21089706Wise post. You need to talk to doctors like you talk to a judge: don't say a fucking thing you aren't strictly required to.
>>21089531the funny part about this bullshit is that no one can give me any list of places the use sysco for food. I want a list so I can see for myself.
>>21089547stop doing drugs. narcotics are shit for pain relief they just knock you out. no pain pill I have ever taken has done more for my back pain than plain old ibuprofen or aleve.
>>21089706I don't flush drugs, I pour water on them, then dump the resulting mess in the trash. some people mix it in the cat litter they throw out. but I would never flush it.
>>21086376the complaint is that most bars/pubs buy pre-made frozen dinners at $1 each and re-sell them to you heated up in a microwave for $19, plus $15 for a pint of beer plus 25% tip.
>>21089547I had a prescription for percoset or something like it. I had really bad back pain. when I went to disneyland I took some with me. I was there for a week. I tried the percosets (or whatever) and they just made me feel dopey, and did nothing for the pain. the third day I took 4 ibuprofen and made it 4 hours without the normal excruciating pain I had before. that was when I stopped taking narcotic pain pills. when I had laproscopic knee surgery on a friday, I went in to work on the following monday. I took only ibuprofen or tylenol for any pain. the surgeon was shocked when I told him this. he had NEVER had a patient go back to work within 3 days of surgery (usual time is at least 1 week, with most people taking a month), and even more shocked when I told him I didn't fill the pain medication prescription he gave me.
>>21090301If this is true, It does not bother me. running a business is expensive, and a bar has the extra hazard of liability. Also if people are paying then that is the accepted fair price. all they have to do is not buy stuff if it's too expensive.I don't go to bars so...
>>21087467>My favorite steakhouse sounds very expensive
>>21087775you couldn't just say you were taking it still?
>>21090307good man, I can admire your qualitiest. another man
>its ok when every chinese restaurant gets food from the same supplier
>>21090307weird laborer flex
>>21090312Why go out to have someone microwave frozen sloppa for you, at any price? Sifting through the crap other people think is acceptable or even good gets tiresome.Funny too how the sysco thread has devolved into a discussion of hard drugs.
>>21091737Anon answered that already: >>21089706
>>21086419>It's not hard to bread and fry mushroomsIt requires having a real kitchen though, and most of the places that would serve that dish don't have one. They've got a shitty little countertop deep fryer set up out of sight of the customers.
>>21090294kek what does water do?also why no flushing?
>>21091789I’ve worked at 3 hole in the wall Chinese restaurants as a delivery bitch (as a side job mind you) and every one had at least 2 commercial fryers to use. For shit like sides, they just take frozen sysco frozen mushroom-styled product and dump it into that. It’s quick and cost effective. It has nothing to do with it being too labor intensive.
>>21091803Right, it's not the end labor but having to stock and rotate fresh mushrooms, make sure they get at least most of the dirt and manure cleaned off them, prep the batter, and make sure none of it gets kept too long.
>>21086370>explain the sysco hate?You should have read the post before deciding which company-approved response to pick from the drop down.>>makes every mom-n-pop restaurant/bar and grill menu the sameAnswered your question before you asked it.
>>21091854>Answered your question before you asked it.Not really, what kind of mom & pop would serve you pre-made frozen food from sysco? If they did they don't deserve to be called a m&p and should go out of business.Fuck, you are dumb.
>>21091803lolc-r-n disproves your bullshit claim, but sure: Chinese restaurants use Sysco lmao
>>21091919"mom and pop" just means individually owned. Plenty of them will serve up crap like that. Plenty of great restaurants get their frites from a food distributor - you think they're all hand-cut and delicately preblanched? You probably have no idea how many things you eat out were bought ready-made. That grilled, seasoned, chicken breast with super even grill marks? Almost certainly. Below a certain tier of fine dining, almost all desserts, especially. Almost everything deep fried.
>>21091955what's c-r-n? cock right now?
>>21091803I didn't say anything about labor, I was talking about facilities. Most of the places that serve this shit are bars, and most bars don't have proper kitchens.
>>21091748not a laborer, IT.
>>21091798water causes them to dissolve making them unidentifiable, apparently there is a large amount of narcotics in the outflow of water treatment plants from all the drugs people take, and other people flushing pills.most people seem to believe that there are roving bands of druggies going through everyone's trash looking for discarded drugs.
>>21091854>You should have read the post before deciding which company-approved response to pick from the drop down.typical response from one who has an unexplained and irrational take on some company, or group of people. ask them why and they immediately call you a shill or say that you are one of them. this is a key indication of having no argument and just hating something or someone "because".so either come up with a reason or fuck the hell off. I'm not a shill, not in the restaurant business I just want to know, and you can't come up with a reason.
>>21088246>>21088298The difference is that the pizza places employ their own team and you're not bringing a third party into the mix who you have to pay and waste time and temperature on. You must just be in your ignorant twenties because you can't remember that all of this is quite new. Unless you live in a huge city, most restaurants don't provide their own drivers. You're paying a whole different set of taxes added in. The convenience is not worth it. Seems that people who use them are not actually wealthy enough to afford them because they will order fast food to their homes and then have the audacity to complain about the economy and their money issues. They are causing the issues by spending double what their food should cost to have it show up cold and late.
doggydog world and all that
>>21088305OP does. He wants his shitty dive tavern on the corner to serve him freshly prepared deep-fried mushrooms.He seems to think that because some of the worst places in existence still serve crappy factory mushrooms that there are good versions being made somewhere. These types of places aren't equipped to do that kind of production. Most don't even have real kitchens. Most have the bartender doing the "cooking". Bare minimum of hot items for sale just to keep the liquor license.
>>21089222They ALL use Sysco. OP would have everyone believe that merely seeing the Sysco truck means the restaurant in question is serving freezer-to-fryer garbage and canned sauces. Microwave entrees and premade everything. And passing it off as housemade specialties. This is complete horseshit.
>>21092697Quite a number of places other than pizza will have their own delivery services. Chinese comes to mind as another obvious classic, but in-house delivery isn't limited to that either. Also, pizza places in my town in current year also offload to "their partners at doordash" even though they employ some amount of regular on-staff drivers so even that distinction is fading.
>>21090286You're retarded. Why would anyone be able to provide such a list? There aren't really restaurants that would serve mostly food from Sysco. If there are they are tiny little kiosks inside of Elks lodges or something. Any major chain is going to mostly use their own stuff. Any locally owned little restaurant is going to buy from a lot of purveyors and make most of the food from scratch. The owners open a business to show off something they do well, to have pride in specialty things. Maybe it's a breakfast diner. Maybe it's an Italian cafe. Maybe it's a steakhouse. Sysco is like a supermarket. They have their own brands under the umbrella (such as Roland), but they sell for other businesses. It's not fucking Amway. You don't even understand what it is if you think your request makes any sense at all.
>>21090301You're exaggerating greatly for effect even if that were close to being true. Which it isn't. But I guess it's not even your complaint.
>>21092717This. If it's not some Michelin star place in a big city with a fancy fresh market to source their shit daily, which is something 99% of restaurants just aren't going to do, then the restaurants around you are either using Sysco or US Foods (formerly Food Services of America, or FSA for short). Aramark or Sodexo, if it's a prison or a college or a hospital.The real question is, which restaurants are using Sysco for things like produce, meats, and to go boxes and napkins, and still at least cook everything from scratch, and which are just buying frozen bags of premade slop and passing it off as cooking; the answer to the latter, generally, is any fast casual boomerfare like Applebee's, or as stated many times ITT already, any dive bar. I was a line cook at a place in Minneapolis that was nominated for a James Beard Award while I was there. We didn't win it, but that's probably the most high falutin hoighty toighty fancy pants cooking I've ever done, and they still got most of their stuff from Sysco. it's just a massive, wholesale supplier, and really has no bearing on quality. Cooks rag on Sysco only for professional annoyances, like the truck showing up four hours late and having none of the shit you ordered, gripes like that a normal person wouldn't even think about.
>>21092737Lmao it 100% is. The main overhead in any restaurant is going to be the rent for the space, the electricity and gas to power the coolers and the grills and fryers and whatnot, non edible inventories given out to customers such as napkins and takeout boxes, and labor. Edible inventory is purchased wholesale for pennies on the dollar, and let's say, a pizza that costs the restaurant $3 all-in to make, is sold at $17.99, who also pays $2 for an amount of soda that cost the restaurant a nickel. This is really basic knowledge to anyone who has worked as a manager at any restaurant.
>>21091989>what's c-r-n?Exactly. Anyone even remotely involved in the business of running a Chinese restaurant knows what c-r-n is.
>>21091772You'd have to search high and low to find a place that actually just microwaves frozen TV dinners and serves them. Even a bar. The types of places that serve really easy prepared crap are NOT restaurants, nor does it bother the clientele. >Why go out to...?They aren't. They went out to get hammered on alcohol. Then they had to eat so they could drive home or drink more. They don't give a flying fuck about the quality or ease of preparation of the paper-lined basket of fried starch they got with a squeeze bottle of ketchup. And they don't get charged any high price for it either. I don't think a single one of you have ever encountered anything like you're claiming exists. These bars are like Bigfoot or something; no one's ever seen one.I get what you guys are saying, but it's really nothing like that. It's like you went into some corner tavern one time and expected real food, and then like the story of that fish your uncle caught, every time you retell it the food was worse and more overpriced. I go out to a lot of bars and restaurants and I've never seen what you're claiming. Because no public is bad enough to keep those places in business. If you could just set up a location and buy everything readymade and pay a guy minimum wage to fry and microwave it and actually make a profit more people would be doing it. I have seen this be attempted, and it's always the same story; they go under within a year of opening.Even barflies demand quality and a good deal. The margin on food is so small that you pretty much HAVE TO do your own prep to profit. People know better. They don't like microwaved chicken cordon bleu and they won't stand for it.If you ever actually DID see a place like you described, it wasn't open for long. And if they were they fixed the menu. Go back and see.
>>21091789This.
>>21091981Some of that is right. If you're going to patronize a business that doesn't make their own soups or cook their own chicken that's on you. I guess I just have taste and brains because I wouldn't eat at those places. Most people don't know I guess, but if they don't know they don't have an issue. That canned crap is consistent. It seems like this whole argument is pointless because it's as if some educated foodie would even encounter any of it. If you know enough to know how it works it shouldn't bother you. We shouldn't expect the fries to be housemade in a restaurant of a certain size with a certain kind of menu. Those are hard to get right and take up a lot of walk-in space.
>>21091919They will go out of business. Those places don't ever last. That's the whole reason this thread is dumb; you'd have to be in a town of retards to have a successful mom and pop that just warmed up factory food.
>>21092763I don't know how someone can get so close to the truth of the industry, just to immediately say it's not true. Restaurants AREN'T profitable! People who actually work in them, manage them, even own them, generally know that! That's why so many shut down not long after opening! Why else do you think that happens?! You clearly know that's happening because you brought it up first! What is wrong with you?
>>21092719You found a few exceptions. Congrats. Obviously my point is that if you're paying anyone other than the actual place that cooked the food to bring you the food you're being foolish with your money.
>>21092660>typical response from one who has an une-I got this far into your post before I decided it wasn't worth reading.Here's your +1, show your boss and ask for an additional $0.0005 this quarter.
>>21092743Finally someone else who's been there. When did US Foods merge with FSA? Back when I was bangin' they were competitors. I worked at places that were usually Sysco OR F.S.A., and then US Foods was a secondary where we bought certain items. You can run a really nice place using only Sysco if you want. They have all levels of quality and you can certainly buy primals and cut your own steaks. People have the idea that everything off the truck is individually packaged shit. They DO have that for sale (which makes it harder to argue with idiots), but the real chefs don't buy it.
>>21092757Yes, a pizza that cost them $3 in ingredients sold at $18 is not even close to the same thing as a $1 microwaved TV dinner splorped onto a plate and sold for $19 with a $15 pint and the 25% tip.That's why I said you exaggerated greatly. Pretty big difference that you left out is that they bought bulk everything to get the pizza's cost down to $3. They didn't buy a frozen pizza. They made the "cheap" dough by buying 50 lb. bags of flour and having the dishwasher on mixer duty. Probably pretty good pizza.
>>21092778Restaurants can be profitable. What is your argument here? You think they go under because why? What does any of this have to do with Sysco and laziness? The ones who attempt that fail. The ones who make something special from scratch usually fare better. But 2/3 of restaurants don't survive the first year. I don't see what you think I'm missing.
>>21092801No, I'm not the first guy you're arguing with, I'm a different guy who read the conversation and doesn't understand why you're being so obtuse about this, especially when you claim to know what you're talking about, here >>21092793You agree with me here. I'm the guy who's so confused as to how you can say something is the way it is, because it isn't the way it is. I've run several restaurants in my career and for the past ten years, have owned my place, and I have line cooks who make more per hour than I do. Restaurant profit margins are razor thin and a ton of places are just heat and eat, no real prep at all. You keep asking for examples, have you worked at Applebee's? That was my first job ever, and it was chef Mike doing most of the cooking. Also several mom and pops that may as well have just been Applebee's. There's no money in it, and it's very difficult to get staff competent enough to actually cook food, everyone who starts a restaurant does so either because they're woefully out of touch and think they'll make money, typically people who never worked in a restaurant, and retarded psychopaths like me who ramble on about muh passion.
>>21092808You're just repeating over and over that it doesn't happen at all, this strange assertion that absolutely no restaurant is doing this and certainly no popular places or major chains. Do you live in opposite land? I just don't get it, I don't get why some people are so obtuse, so obstinate, so unwilling to say "huh, maybe I am retarded"
>>21092820Again, I don't understand what I missed. The way what is? Obtuse how?I know how it all works. I know better than to be an owner. No I never worked any chains. I went to school and worked in all "mom and pop" places that did most from scratch.
>>21092825Yes, it happens. It's just the exception not the rule. Do you, as an owner actually just reheat premade shit?
>>21092834No but like I said, I worked at and managed several places that did and continue to do. Okay, the fries at my place come frozen in a bag, but everything else I make from scratch.
>>21092825Rereading my posts and yours, I guess we just can't agree on how prevalent this practice is. Where I live there are not any mom and pop places that use Sysco like OP fears. They are primarily alcohol businesses that do that. Even food trucks are about specialty things. I've watched a lot of places crash and burn because they attempted what you're talking about; minimum actual prep and production. Canned gravies and soups, pre-cut steaks individually wrapped, basically NOTHING made on site. I've consulted with businesses and talked them out of this, but those who do it anyway always fail. The Sysco/FSA food vendor conventions are filled with samples and demos of complete trash to save retarded owners money. "Just look at this pre-cooked burger patty! Grill marks, smoky aroma, and the bun isn't too hard. Really a quality consistent product! Good price points."Yeah, you take a bite and walk to the next stand where you know you'll take his card but never buy anything.Desserts are gussied up with drizzles and such to make them seem more fresh. I know this happens. But I know a lot more places that offer fewer items but make them in house. Do you live near a lot of strip malls? I mean, I know what you're talking about does happen. But where? Who are these people patronizing these places? I'm not going to ask for actual menus and websites, but I'm curious about where this all goes down. With ethnic restaurants they often do way more scratch cooking I've found. This has been MY experience. I know they sell chopped onions and carrots in bags, I just don't know who buys them. You're claiming that there are far more places serving canned food, is that it?As an owner, how many corners have you cut in this way? You seem defensive like it's just the way you have to do it. Just the way it's done. I did have "the passion" so I went out of my way to work at good places. But I also ate out a LOT for other related work and know a lot of owners and chefs.
>>21087366>Waiters get paid a lot more than line cooks after tipsAnd that's a good thing. Being a cook is like working at an assembly line, very low IQ and effort needed; apart from washing their hands. Meanwhile Servers need actual people skills and the ability to think quickly and not panic.
>>21092861Good. Most places buy fries. That's totally acceptable.
>>21092866That's kind of a reductive statement. It depends greatly on what type of food it is. You're 100% wrong about effort too. There shouldn't be any vast economic disparity between cooks and servers. And there's been a shift in the last few years so it's not quite so unbalanced.Servers panic all the time. I've done both jobs and you're a fucking moron.
>>21092861I'll give you certain "family restaurants". I overlook their lunch and dinner offerings often because they do such great breakfasts. Yes, those types of places with diner fare, breakfast all day, and kind of a huge menu with burgers and sandwiches galore plus a couple steak and seafood options, and also spaghetti for some reason. Those places are total Sysco places. But often they will then have some thing where they, say, make all their own pies. Or they have the best prime rib in town. Or tthe chicken fried steak is 'legendary'. Some shit like that to set them apart. I forgot about those places. I'm a foodie so I avoid them. But it's not a huge market these days so the actual percentage of bad Sysco restaurants is still low I'd say. But among 'family restaurants' that are like a 'mom and pop Denny's', this can exist and be successful. But again, they're making great eggs and pancakes, and you can't really pre-do that stuff. There exists no microwave omelette and toaster waffle breakfast joint.
>>21092865I have lived and worked in Florida, Alaska, Washington State and DC, Montana, the twin cities, NYC, Chicago, st Louis, Kansas City and currently in a flyover I won't name, and I've seen this shit everywhere. I actually cut corners by making shit from scratch, much cheaper per pound to, for instance, buy flour and mushrooms and make a batter to fry the mushrooms, than it is to buy a bag of frozen mushrooms. It would be cheaper for me if I kept stubbornly making my fries from scratch like I used to back in the day, but I really see no difference from what I'm able to make and the frozen bags I buy, I just save a lot of time there.I'm almost 40 and I've been doing this shit literally my entire life, my dad, rest his soul, owned a diner that served, you guessed it, canned gravies and boxes of frozen shit to be reheated later. The lasagna special? Literally Stouffer's, and my old man kept that place running until he died a few years ago, and then my retard sister ran it into the ground while my invalid mom just let it happen and I was on the other side of the country stuck with my thing. I probably would have just sold it, anyways. Anyways, there's my life story, there's my experience, there's all my anecdotal evidence of things you yourself should have seen if you actually worked in this industry for even a week, anywhere in the USA. I don't know what they do outside of America and I don't fucking care.
>>21092899>You can't premake eggs and pancakesNigga, you never heard of boxed pancake mix? You've never seen cartons of liquid eggs? Does McDonald's not exist in whatever fairytale Dreamland you're living in? What are you even saying, honestly?>I'm a foodie so I avoid those places>I avoid these places so that means they don't exist so that means my silly argument is correct?????????? I'm so horribly confused.
>>21092906Places like your dad had are dying off. The Food Network and then the advent of the smartphone have educated even idiots to the point that they won't stand for Stouffer's. I've worked in WA too. Just nice places. I'm not a fucking idiot. You seemed to have only worked in Sysco places. We're both a little ignorant to what the other side is doing. Yet the place you own is all scratch but the fries. And in your secret flyover you're the only one not microwaving the Sysco? Everyone else is? Do you have little good places with chefs working in them? If there were a land where you could just run Sysco diners and prepare nothing and no one would be the wiser, the midwest would be it. I guess I'm dumb for skipping Kansas on my tasting tours. I'm older than you and worked longer than you.>>21092909You skipped the end. Pancake mix is not the same as premade pancakes AT ALL. Liquid eggs is still COOKING THE EGGS on site. Now we're just arguing about levels of shit food. McDonalds does not belong in this debate.
>>21087467you go out to eat and socialize? during a pandemic?
>>21087856KFC specializes in selling fried food. Its what their restaurant is. You can't expect a bar to make from scratch a deep fried food order, when they probably only sell a few orders a day.
>>21092937>McDonalds does not belong in this debate.Right, because when you get the liquid egg items at McDonald's, you have McDonald's levels of quality control behind them, which your mom and pop shop buying equivalent stuff from a distributor has no capability of doing. If you're going to be eating liquid eggs or pancake mix anyway, you might as well go to a fast food joint.
>>21092984dont act like you arent hyped for covid 2
>>21092792here's (((your))) .00005 for you whatever sysco competitor you are trying to shill for.
>>21092735I know there is no list. but the people who constantly hate on a company and cannot give a reason why, then say you are a shill if you don't just believe them.they can stop being little shitheads about a company they probably know nothing about, and are parroting other morons here who are probably disgruntled former employees who were caught jerking it in the cold storage.I want them to give me an actual place that serves this "slop" so I can go there and try it to see if there is anything to what they are saying.but all I get is "shill just believe my rant".
>>21092743>Cooks rag on Sysco only for professional annoyances, like the truck showing up four hours late and having none of the shit you ordered, gripes like that a normal person wouldn't even think about.finally! someone who has an actual rational gripe instead of>le sysco bad!
>>21092757on restaurant impossible the host is always telling the owners to take the cost of the food and multiply that x 3 and charge at least that amount to cover the cost of labor, and utilities etc.morons think that restaurants run on thoughts, prayers, and unicorn farts. they want michelin star food at dollar menu prices. they want wait staff to suck their dick for no tip.
>>21092763the only time I ever saw anyone microwave cheap ass food was at a snack bar at a public pool in the 80's.I know someone who used to be an assistant manager at a burger king in the early 90's and he said that they sometimes would zap the whoppers just before bagging them to make them hot and "fresh".
>>21093616I never bothered with Covid 19 because I didn't see the prequels.Same reason why I never watched The Madness of King George III. I don't wanna start right in the middle without knowing what happened in parts I and II.What was he mad about, anyway?
>>21092778>Restaurants AREN'T profitable!you mean badly run restaurants, because I used to go to a restaurant before I was born (you read that right) that only closed because CVS gave them $7,000,000 for their property. they had been in business more than 40 years. it was a ma and pa place. the owner had 3 locations at one time and prepped for all of them every morning himself.
>>21092801give me the name of one verifiable still in business name that servers microwave dinners. then some other anon can go there and check their garbage for the microwave dinner packages.
>>21092825POST PROOF IT HAPPENS
>>21092865>With ethnic restaurants they often do way more scratch cookingright! all the good mexican and indian places where I live make from scratch.
>>21086370they sell a lot of things that are certifiable pig slop. imagine if you wanted to buy a widget from me and i just sent you a package with a turd in it
seeing this truck always makes me hungryI have nothing to eat in this fucking hotel
>>21088253retard
>>21087246People don't have sex, retard.
>>21092762Hi, I'm not even remotely involved in the business of running a Chinese resturant.What the fuck does c-r-n mean you turbo autist?
>>21093796>i don't like this because it does this>YOU MUST BE SHILLING FOR SOMETHING THAT DOES THE SAME THING!retard
>>21094256make up your mind.
>>21092743>t. SIDF
>>21094111c-r-n.com
>>21086362The house recipe, says it right on the truck.
>>21094052you can tell i'm white because i implied the possibility of having guilt for my rawdogging in another context
>>21092757>$2 for an amount of sodafuck I can tell you havent gone out to eat in a while. good luck finding any restaurant or bar that does a glass of coke for under $6 nowadays
I refuse to go to restaurants and I refuse to let people pay for me when they want to go to a restaurant with meGoddamn it makes me so angry when I think about the price of food at restaurantsWhat those who are in power do is terrorise us into submissionFear is the tool, they make us blind and all we can do is run wildly about They give us their goyslop but we can't see how there are green pastures around us, free from the goycattle chemicals they're feeding usIt's all about turning people into goycattle with cattle blinkers
>>21095061Let's start an anarchist motorcycle club
>>21095064I don't like bikies
